1 00:00:04,835 --> 00:00:21,435 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. We 2 00:00:21,595 --> 00:00:25,395 Speaker 1: will see Jack Smith's evidence on Trump's attempt to foment 3 00:00:25,475 --> 00:00:28,115 Speaker 1: the violent overthrow of the government of the United States 4 00:00:28,195 --> 00:00:32,755 Speaker 1: before the election. Thanks to Judge Tanya Chutkins rulings, we 5 00:00:32,835 --> 00:00:37,395 Speaker 1: are likely to get a mini trial at which Mike 6 00:00:37,635 --> 00:00:42,795 Speaker 1: Pence might be compelled to testify, or his previous sworn 7 00:00:42,875 --> 00:00:47,475 Speaker 1: statements could be made public. That's right, Mike Pence might 8 00:00:47,595 --> 00:00:53,675 Speaker 1: metaphorically get to hang Donald Trump out to dry. At 9 00:00:53,755 --> 00:00:57,315 Speaker 1: least we will read about it, or at least much 10 00:00:57,435 --> 00:01:00,315 Speaker 1: of it, or at least the gist of it. The 11 00:01:00,355 --> 00:01:04,315 Speaker 1: Supreme Court's corrupt ruling on the bogus concept of presidential 12 00:01:04,355 --> 00:01:09,075 Speaker 1: immune notwithstanding, Judge Chutkin and she should pose for the 13 00:01:09,155 --> 00:01:12,875 Speaker 1: statue now. To save time, has scheduled a series of 14 00:01:12,915 --> 00:01:16,475 Speaker 1: deadlines for the Justice Department and for Trump's legal whores 15 00:01:16,955 --> 00:01:21,035 Speaker 1: to file briefs and motions and responses. And the schedule 16 00:01:21,075 --> 00:01:24,035 Speaker 1: starts three weeks from yesterday and it ends two days 17 00:01:24,075 --> 00:01:27,315 Speaker 1: after the election. And there is absolutely no guarantee that 18 00:01:27,355 --> 00:01:31,275 Speaker 1: the paperwork about immunity will include the evidence against Trump. 19 00:01:31,275 --> 00:01:33,835 Speaker 1: But consider for a moment what the documents would have 20 00:01:33,875 --> 00:01:37,435 Speaker 1: to look like if the filings about what is eliminated 21 00:01:37,475 --> 00:01:41,875 Speaker 1: by presidential immunity and what isn't doesn't contain any examples 22 00:01:41,995 --> 00:01:45,635 Speaker 1: of what is eliminated by presidential immunity and what isn't, 23 00:01:45,955 --> 00:01:48,955 Speaker 1: each of those documents would then be one word long, 24 00:01:49,275 --> 00:01:55,555 Speaker 1: should or shouldn't Pence and whether he can testify or 25 00:01:55,595 --> 00:02:00,475 Speaker 1: his previous testimony is erased by the immunity fix. It 26 00:02:00,595 --> 00:02:03,875 Speaker 1: was clear at the hearing yesterday this is central to 27 00:02:03,915 --> 00:02:06,595 Speaker 1: the idea of the mini trial that Chutkin is now 28 00:02:06,635 --> 00:02:11,075 Speaker 1: going to undertake. The evidence against Trump will be in 29 00:02:11,115 --> 00:02:14,715 Speaker 1: the public hands for whatever that is or isn't worth 30 00:02:14,875 --> 00:02:18,035 Speaker 1: to some degree. Beginning on the twenty sixth of this month, 31 00:02:18,355 --> 00:02:22,675 Speaker 1: with the first Smith opening brief on the issue of immunity, 32 00:02:23,115 --> 00:02:27,115 Speaker 1: Trump must supplement his motion to dismiss on statutory grounds 33 00:02:27,155 --> 00:02:30,595 Speaker 1: a week later, on Thursday, October third. Two weeks after that, 34 00:02:30,955 --> 00:02:34,835 Speaker 1: Trump replies to the initial Smith filing and Smith replies 35 00:02:34,875 --> 00:02:38,315 Speaker 1: to the Trump motion to dismiss. Smith replies to that 36 00:02:38,515 --> 00:02:42,035 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, October twenty ninth. Smith has another reply to 37 00:02:42,315 --> 00:02:48,355 Speaker 1: on Halloween. So if you want an October surprise, pick one. 38 00:02:48,955 --> 00:02:51,955 Speaker 1: It could come early in three weeks or on the 39 00:02:51,955 --> 00:02:55,595 Speaker 1: third of October, two chances on the seventeenth, another on 40 00:02:55,635 --> 00:03:00,835 Speaker 1: the twenty ninth, Happy Halloween. Since there is every chance 41 00:03:00,835 --> 00:03:03,835 Speaker 1: we will not know the electoral winner on November fifth, 42 00:03:03,955 --> 00:03:07,235 Speaker 1: or maybe not even November sixth, the last of the hearings. 43 00:03:07,475 --> 00:03:11,835 Speaker 1: Trump's answer to the Smith Halloween reply comes with the 44 00:03:11,875 --> 00:03:18,955 Speaker 1: ominous time stamp of Thursday, November seventh. I will not 45 00:03:19,155 --> 00:03:22,275 Speaker 1: wade too deeply into the legal cesspool here. I am 46 00:03:22,315 --> 00:03:25,955 Speaker 1: not qualified to, and unlike almost everybody else talking about it, 47 00:03:26,075 --> 00:03:30,475 Speaker 1: I admit that. But Trump lawyer John Laura's fixation on 48 00:03:30,595 --> 00:03:33,835 Speaker 1: having chut can rule now and forever on what did 49 00:03:33,915 --> 00:03:37,115 Speaker 1: Mike Pence say and when did he say? It decodes 50 00:03:37,355 --> 00:03:41,315 Speaker 1: this for those of us who are legal illiterates. Laura 51 00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:44,955 Speaker 1: yesterday insisted the ruling needs to be made immediately because 52 00:03:44,995 --> 00:03:48,995 Speaker 1: this is a quote sensitive time for Trump. That is, 53 00:03:49,395 --> 00:03:53,315 Speaker 1: it's the election quote. If your honor decides, and your 54 00:03:53,355 --> 00:03:56,195 Speaker 1: honor may very well decide that the information relating to 55 00:03:56,275 --> 00:04:00,275 Speaker 1: Vice President pens is not only presumptively immune, but immune, 56 00:04:00,715 --> 00:04:08,075 Speaker 1: then that indictment has to be dismissed. Huge mistake, cheap mouthpiece. 57 00:04:08,955 --> 00:04:12,755 Speaker 1: Chutkin did not like that term sensitive time at all, 58 00:04:13,355 --> 00:04:16,155 Speaker 1: she said quote I said before, and I say again 59 00:04:16,475 --> 00:04:19,475 Speaker 1: that the electoral process, timing of the election, and what 60 00:04:19,635 --> 00:04:23,635 Speaker 1: needs to happen before shouldn't happen for election is not 61 00:04:23,835 --> 00:04:28,075 Speaker 1: relevant here. This court is not concerned with the electoral schedule. 62 00:04:30,195 --> 00:04:33,235 Speaker 1: I hope you notice the wonderful irony here. We are 63 00:04:33,355 --> 00:04:37,875 Speaker 1: where we are because Trump's lawyers and his concierge Supreme 64 00:04:37,915 --> 00:04:44,995 Speaker 1: Court have been so successful at delaying. Now no more delay. 65 00:04:45,275 --> 00:04:48,835 Speaker 1: They want an urgent ruling, and Chutkin will not give 66 00:04:48,875 --> 00:04:54,675 Speaker 1: it to them. As Shakespeare wrote, hoist with his own petard. 67 00:04:55,955 --> 00:04:59,595 Speaker 1: And if anybody who has ever lived deserves petard to 68 00:04:59,675 --> 00:05:04,435 Speaker 1: be used in its colloquial meaning, it's Trump, it's colloquial, 69 00:05:05,035 --> 00:05:30,195 Speaker 1: of course, being flatulence. Of course, depending on the answer 70 00:05:30,235 --> 00:05:34,715 Speaker 1: to my next question, all this Chutkins stuff could be academic. 71 00:05:35,195 --> 00:05:38,035 Speaker 1: I have asked it before, and based upon his performance 72 00:05:38,075 --> 00:05:40,315 Speaker 1: at the New York Economic Club of New York, I 73 00:05:40,355 --> 00:05:45,395 Speaker 1: will ask it again. Is Trump dying or something? Among 74 00:05:45,515 --> 00:05:49,475 Speaker 1: other highlights in his speech, is that the right word 75 00:05:49,515 --> 00:05:55,555 Speaker 1: for it. Trump began to call immigrants quote illegal aerials. 76 00:05:56,075 --> 00:05:59,555 Speaker 1: He rarely got above a mumble. He was helpful enough 77 00:05:59,595 --> 00:06:03,075 Speaker 1: to drag his Arlington National Cemetery scandal back into the spotlight, 78 00:06:03,595 --> 00:06:05,795 Speaker 1: and in so doing, he said that the gold Star 79 00:06:05,915 --> 00:06:09,995 Speaker 1: families there were quote celebrating, and he said that the 80 00:06:10,035 --> 00:06:14,795 Speaker 1: event happened four days ago, when it happened ten days ago. 81 00:06:14,875 --> 00:06:18,635 Speaker 1: But no, he's not dying or something. What makes you 82 00:06:18,715 --> 00:06:19,035 Speaker 1: think that. 83 00:06:19,675 --> 00:06:24,355 Speaker 2: With a legal are aliens pouring in from countries all 84 00:06:24,395 --> 00:06:27,715 Speaker 2: over the world. They came in from countries that nobody 85 00:06:27,875 --> 00:06:32,995 Speaker 2: ever heard the name of that country. Those countries from 86 00:06:33,035 --> 00:06:37,635 Speaker 2: their prisons and jails. There is a difference and the 87 00:06:37,675 --> 00:06:40,835 Speaker 2: Arab nations. And we're very honored to have some of 88 00:06:40,875 --> 00:06:45,715 Speaker 2: my friends here with us today from that part of 89 00:06:45,715 --> 00:06:49,595 Speaker 2: the world. But they're working very hard despite being here 90 00:06:50,635 --> 00:06:56,555 Speaker 2: that I not be your president. They don't like me. Meanwhile, 91 00:06:57,195 --> 00:07:00,555 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris can't bring down the price of anything because 92 00:07:00,635 --> 00:07:05,155 Speaker 2: their energy policies are driving up. The cost of everything 93 00:07:05,755 --> 00:07:07,995 Speaker 2: is up, way up. By the way, we lost thirteen 94 00:07:08,235 --> 00:07:11,395 Speaker 2: incredible soldiers. I got to know the families very well, 95 00:07:12,435 --> 00:07:15,235 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time with them. Four days ago 96 00:07:15,275 --> 00:07:20,715 Speaker 2: in Arlington Cemetery. Three years ago they were celebrating three years. 97 00:07:20,875 --> 00:07:23,835 Speaker 1: Speaking of that, in case you didn't hear the altercation 98 00:07:24,035 --> 00:07:29,235 Speaker 1: wherein Trump's staffers interrupted the celebration by man handling a 99 00:07:29,235 --> 00:07:33,555 Speaker 1: woman's staffer at Arlington National Cemetery physical violence atop our 100 00:07:33,675 --> 00:07:38,315 Speaker 1: most hallowed ground. The thing Trump just insisted never happened 101 00:07:38,355 --> 00:07:42,395 Speaker 1: and was made up personally by Kamala Harris and the 102 00:07:42,435 --> 00:07:46,795 Speaker 1: military is lying. NPR, which first reported the fight, has 103 00:07:46,835 --> 00:07:51,235 Speaker 1: now identified the two staffers who verbally abused the woman 104 00:07:51,315 --> 00:07:56,755 Speaker 1: at Arlington and the one who shoved her, and one 105 00:07:56,755 --> 00:08:00,915 Speaker 1: of the main lines back to January sixth quote. The 106 00:08:00,955 --> 00:08:03,875 Speaker 1: two staffers, according to a source with knowledge of the incident, 107 00:08:04,195 --> 00:08:10,915 Speaker 1: are Debt campaign manager Justin caparral and Michelle Picard, a 108 00:08:10,995 --> 00:08:14,355 Speaker 1: member of Trump's advance team. Caparrale is a one time 109 00:08:14,435 --> 00:08:17,515 Speaker 1: aid to former First Lady Milania Trump, who left the 110 00:08:17,515 --> 00:08:20,035 Speaker 1: White House to work for Florida Governor Ron DeSantis before 111 00:08:20,075 --> 00:08:23,755 Speaker 1: returning to the Trump campaign. He was also listed as 112 00:08:23,795 --> 00:08:27,835 Speaker 1: the on site contact and project manager for the Women 113 00:08:27,955 --> 00:08:32,235 Speaker 1: for America first rally on January sixth, where Trump urged 114 00:08:32,235 --> 00:08:33,955 Speaker 1: the crowd to stop the steal before some of them 115 00:08:33,995 --> 00:08:39,155 Speaker 1: stormed the capitol. Arlington National Cemetery rules, NPR continues that 116 00:08:39,235 --> 00:08:42,035 Speaker 1: had been made clear to the Trump campaign in advance 117 00:08:42,395 --> 00:08:46,675 Speaker 1: say that only an official Arlington photographer can take pictures 118 00:08:46,915 --> 00:08:52,435 Speaker 1: or film in section sixty. When an ANC employee tried 119 00:08:52,475 --> 00:08:55,835 Speaker 1: to enforce the rules, she was verbally abused by the 120 00:08:55,875 --> 00:08:59,475 Speaker 1: two Trump campaign operatives. According to a source with knowledge 121 00:08:59,475 --> 00:09:03,475 Speaker 1: of the incident, Picard then pushed her out of the way. 122 00:09:03,995 --> 00:09:11,675 Speaker 1: According to Pentagon officials, the card did it insert the 123 00:09:11,755 --> 00:09:15,355 Speaker 1: gif of Sir Patrick Stewart face palming on Star Trek. 124 00:09:16,635 --> 00:09:19,835 Speaker 1: The NPR story also includes a non denial denial now 125 00:09:19,875 --> 00:09:23,395 Speaker 1: from Trump's spokesliar Stephen Chung, and no, they have not 126 00:09:23,555 --> 00:09:27,035 Speaker 1: released the video they say proves it didn't happen. And 127 00:09:27,155 --> 00:09:30,995 Speaker 1: know I'm still waiting for somebody to file to get 128 00:09:30,995 --> 00:09:34,595 Speaker 1: the security video from Arlington National Cemetery so we can 129 00:09:34,675 --> 00:09:37,595 Speaker 1: see what happened and what happened and who should go 130 00:09:37,635 --> 00:09:42,555 Speaker 1: to prison for it. But now back to Trump's latest 131 00:09:42,595 --> 00:09:46,195 Speaker 1: mental day off. What you heard there about the celebration 132 00:09:46,355 --> 00:09:50,515 Speaker 1: at Arlington came on the heels of a televised moment 133 00:09:50,555 --> 00:09:54,995 Speaker 1: Wednesday night in which you could see panic actually flare 134 00:09:55,195 --> 00:09:58,355 Speaker 1: in his eyes as he spoke and dance across his 135 00:09:58,475 --> 00:10:01,595 Speaker 1: vision before his animal instincts kicked in and he managed 136 00:10:01,755 --> 00:10:06,555 Speaker 1: to suppress that I was genuine surprised Fox did not 137 00:10:06,995 --> 00:10:11,075 Speaker 1: edit this clip out or at least paper it over 138 00:10:11,115 --> 00:10:17,115 Speaker 1: with a wide shot or a cartoon without mentioning his name. 139 00:10:17,315 --> 00:10:21,475 Speaker 1: Trump clearly began to say that the Democratic nominee right 140 00:10:21,555 --> 00:10:24,995 Speaker 1: now is Joe Biden. 141 00:10:25,475 --> 00:10:28,395 Speaker 3: I can't imagine New Hampshire voting for him. Anybody in 142 00:10:28,435 --> 00:10:31,275 Speaker 3: New Hampshire because they're watching right now. But anybody in 143 00:10:31,315 --> 00:10:36,555 Speaker 3: New Hampshire that votes for Biden and Kamela. 144 00:10:36,595 --> 00:10:40,155 Speaker 1: How, if you're Fox, do you let that clip run? 145 00:10:41,475 --> 00:10:49,555 Speaker 1: He clearly thinks he clearly defaults to Biden. Any who Fox? Thanks. 146 00:10:51,235 --> 00:10:54,515 Speaker 1: Trump did manage to get his wits about him, well, 147 00:10:54,635 --> 00:10:58,835 Speaker 1: wit his one wit in time to do a zoom 148 00:10:58,995 --> 00:11:02,875 Speaker 1: speech yesterday to a group calling itself the Republican Jewish Coalition, 149 00:11:02,915 --> 00:11:05,635 Speaker 1: in which he once again repeated the anti Semitic trope 150 00:11:05,675 --> 00:11:08,355 Speaker 1: that Jews are all loyal to Israel, not to the 151 00:11:08,475 --> 00:11:11,355 Speaker 1: United States or wherever they happen to live. He again 152 00:11:11,435 --> 00:11:14,075 Speaker 1: said of Democrats, quote, if you had them to support 153 00:11:14,115 --> 00:11:16,835 Speaker 1: and you were Jewish, you have to have your head examined. 154 00:11:17,395 --> 00:11:19,795 Speaker 1: And just for laughs, he notched it up a little 155 00:11:19,835 --> 00:11:22,515 Speaker 1: bit by saying that if Kamala Harris becomes president Israel 156 00:11:22,635 --> 00:11:26,915 Speaker 1: quote will no longer exist. Well, it will no longer 157 00:11:26,955 --> 00:11:30,715 Speaker 1: exist for Trump because his only interest in Israel is 158 00:11:30,755 --> 00:11:35,875 Speaker 1: to get votes From the topic of Israel. Back to 159 00:11:35,915 --> 00:11:38,755 Speaker 1: the New York Economic speech yesterday, Trump also indicated something 160 00:11:38,755 --> 00:11:42,395 Speaker 1: a little bit more subtle that suggests he's not there anymore, 161 00:11:43,115 --> 00:11:45,515 Speaker 1: that he no longer can tell the difference between ideas 162 00:11:45,515 --> 00:11:47,755 Speaker 1: that will gain him votes and those that will clearly 163 00:11:47,835 --> 00:11:51,835 Speaker 1: lose him votes. He wants, he says, a sovereign wealth fund, 164 00:11:52,715 --> 00:11:56,235 Speaker 1: you know, like the dictator of Saudi Arabia has or 165 00:11:56,275 --> 00:12:00,435 Speaker 1: the dictator of Russia has, with which to make investments, 166 00:12:01,195 --> 00:12:07,875 Speaker 1: presidential investments, steel companies from opponents, give money to supporters, 167 00:12:08,235 --> 00:12:13,075 Speaker 1: or just keep the money for himself. This is a 168 00:12:13,235 --> 00:12:16,515 Speaker 1: softball for Vice President Harris in the debate next Tuesday. 169 00:12:16,635 --> 00:12:20,235 Speaker 1: That is so slow that she can start her swing 170 00:12:20,515 --> 00:12:24,275 Speaker 1: now if she wants to. And if that were not enough, 171 00:12:24,275 --> 00:12:27,155 Speaker 1: there was also this. Trump has now promised a government 172 00:12:27,275 --> 00:12:33,515 Speaker 1: efficiency panel to save money run by quick Think, the 173 00:12:33,595 --> 00:12:38,115 Speaker 1: least qualified person for this in the world. A government 174 00:12:38,155 --> 00:12:43,155 Speaker 1: efficiency panel to save money run by Elon Musk. I mean, 175 00:12:43,155 --> 00:12:47,275 Speaker 1: if you want money efficiency, you do turn to Elon Musk. 176 00:12:47,515 --> 00:12:50,235 Speaker 1: Think of what he did in paying forty four billion 177 00:12:50,275 --> 00:12:53,475 Speaker 1: dollars for Twitter, and now it's worth twelve billion. How 178 00:12:53,595 --> 00:12:58,115 Speaker 1: much more efficiently can you count and manage just twelve 179 00:12:58,195 --> 00:13:02,955 Speaker 1: billion rather than that big, big, unmanageable pile of forty 180 00:13:03,035 --> 00:13:15,115 Speaker 1: four billion. Musk, by the way, now mainstreams into the 181 00:13:15,115 --> 00:13:19,515 Speaker 1: continuing Russian stooge gait. The Justice Department's indictment of two 182 00:13:19,595 --> 00:13:24,355 Speaker 1: Putin propagandists accused of buying MAGA influencers with ten million 183 00:13:24,395 --> 00:13:27,875 Speaker 1: dollars to spread Kremlin talking points, to sew division in 184 00:13:27,915 --> 00:13:31,395 Speaker 1: this country, and to try to get conservatives to kill liberals. 185 00:13:31,955 --> 00:13:35,555 Speaker 1: You will recall that although the DOJ did not name 186 00:13:35,675 --> 00:13:39,235 Speaker 1: the Tennessee company that was the front for spending the 187 00:13:39,315 --> 00:13:43,955 Speaker 1: dough here, about two hundred and six American news outlets 188 00:13:44,195 --> 00:13:49,395 Speaker 1: did name it, Tenant Media te n et now looky 189 00:13:49,515 --> 00:13:53,275 Speaker 1: here from eleven days ago a tweet by Tenant Media 190 00:13:53,635 --> 00:13:57,475 Speaker 1: with one of those videos Russia paid to infect the 191 00:13:57,515 --> 00:14:01,955 Speaker 1: American bloodstream with Tenant Media eight twenty five, twenty four 192 00:14:02,315 --> 00:14:08,875 Speaker 1: NASA's DEI trainings, including engineers vocalizing they feel shame for 193 00:14:08,995 --> 00:14:13,515 Speaker 1: being white and for taking part in white supremacy Culture 194 00:14:14,715 --> 00:14:26,035 Speaker 1: responded to buy elon Musk with two exclamation points. By 195 00:14:26,075 --> 00:14:29,195 Speaker 1: the way, Glenn Beck fired his employee, Tenet Media co 196 00:14:29,275 --> 00:14:32,995 Speaker 1: founder Lauren Chen, and his company insists that she was 197 00:14:33,195 --> 00:14:37,835 Speaker 1: just quote independent contractor and that independent contract has been terminated. 198 00:14:37,915 --> 00:14:40,075 Speaker 1: Shouldn't really work here, and I hope you weren't fooled 199 00:14:40,075 --> 00:14:44,675 Speaker 1: by that For tax purposes, Almost every on air talent 200 00:14:45,995 --> 00:14:50,475 Speaker 1: on almost every video outlet, television or otherwise is an 201 00:14:50,515 --> 00:14:55,195 Speaker 1: independent contractor. You get hired by your own company, and 202 00:14:55,235 --> 00:14:59,075 Speaker 1: then your company loans you out or rents you out 203 00:14:59,195 --> 00:15:03,875 Speaker 1: to Glenn Beck's The Blaze or other dubious outlets like 204 00:15:03,915 --> 00:15:09,395 Speaker 1: you know, NBC. Thus you are not technically a Glenn 205 00:15:09,595 --> 00:15:14,195 Speaker 1: Beck employee. Now, I'm not saying this is ubiquitous, but 206 00:15:14,235 --> 00:15:19,035 Speaker 1: I am literally this week celebrating the thirty sixth anniversary 207 00:15:19,755 --> 00:15:24,555 Speaker 1: of the first month I was an independent contractor while 208 00:15:24,595 --> 00:15:28,035 Speaker 1: I was the sports director of KCBS Television Channel two 209 00:15:28,115 --> 00:15:34,515 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. My contract was with me. CBS's contract 210 00:15:35,115 --> 00:15:39,955 Speaker 1: was with my company. Back to the main plot, and 211 00:15:40,035 --> 00:15:44,515 Speaker 1: has been noted that neither Lauren Chen independent contractor, nor 212 00:15:44,595 --> 00:15:47,715 Speaker 1: her husband and co founder of Tenet Media were indicted 213 00:15:48,475 --> 00:15:51,915 Speaker 1: which is usually a huge tell for what the analyst. 214 00:15:51,955 --> 00:15:55,595 Speaker 1: Andrew Weisman is guessing that they had both been charged 215 00:15:55,675 --> 00:15:58,235 Speaker 1: under seal quite a while ago, and that Lauren Chen 216 00:15:58,315 --> 00:16:02,795 Speaker 1: may have flipped, in which case those on camera influencers 217 00:16:02,835 --> 00:16:05,635 Speaker 1: who claim they are just more victims here they may 218 00:16:05,715 --> 00:16:11,795 Speaker 1: want to flee. One place where old timey media still 219 00:16:11,835 --> 00:16:14,395 Speaker 1: works is piecing together the nuts and bolts of an 220 00:16:14,435 --> 00:16:18,595 Speaker 1: operation like Tenet Media, and Will Summer did it spectacularly 221 00:16:18,675 --> 00:16:20,995 Speaker 1: well in The Washington Post, and I'm going to steal 222 00:16:21,035 --> 00:16:24,315 Speaker 1: two paragraphs of his about the ten million dollars, quoting 223 00:16:24,875 --> 00:16:28,355 Speaker 1: much of the money went to Rubin and Pool. According 224 00:16:28,395 --> 00:16:32,315 Speaker 1: to the indictment, Ruben received four hundred thousand dollars a 225 00:16:32,355 --> 00:16:37,035 Speaker 1: month for sixteen videos, plus a performance bonus and a 226 00:16:37,035 --> 00:16:40,395 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars signing bonus, all for a series 227 00:16:40,435 --> 00:16:44,355 Speaker 1: in which Rubin commented on dumb internet clips that often 228 00:16:44,435 --> 00:16:51,755 Speaker 1: received just roughly one thousand views per episode. By contrast, 229 00:16:52,395 --> 00:16:55,355 Speaker 1: countdown the podcast about one hundred and twenty five thousand 230 00:16:55,635 --> 00:16:59,755 Speaker 1: downloads and views per episode. Back to The Washington Post, 231 00:16:59,995 --> 00:17:03,515 Speaker 1: Tenet also proved lucrative for Tim Poole, who made one 232 00:17:03,555 --> 00:17:06,875 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars per episode for a weekly show he hosted. 233 00:17:07,075 --> 00:17:11,155 Speaker 1: According to prosecutors, the same month that Tenant launched, Poole 234 00:17:11,315 --> 00:17:14,955 Speaker 1: purchased a skate park in Martinsburg, West Virginia, as well 235 00:17:14,995 --> 00:17:18,075 Speaker 1: as other significant real estate purchases in the same area. 236 00:17:19,355 --> 00:17:21,435 Speaker 1: You can take the Pool out of West Virginia, but 237 00:17:21,475 --> 00:17:23,475 Speaker 1: you can't take the West Virginia out of the pool. 238 00:17:24,235 --> 00:17:27,235 Speaker 1: Back to the post, Ruben and Pool initially asked for 239 00:17:27,275 --> 00:17:30,915 Speaker 1: more information about where the money was coming from, prompting 240 00:17:30,955 --> 00:17:37,195 Speaker 1: the Russians to invent Eduard Gregorian, a fictional Belgian banker 241 00:17:37,595 --> 00:17:42,515 Speaker 1: committed to free speech. The indictment states Gregorian's name was 242 00:17:42,595 --> 00:17:48,235 Speaker 1: misspelled on many documents. This assumes mister Reuben and mister 243 00:17:48,275 --> 00:17:52,355 Speaker 1: Poole can read. So what's next here? This clearly is 244 00:17:52,395 --> 00:17:57,235 Speaker 1: not done. Olga Lautmann, Russian intel ops specialist at the 245 00:17:57,275 --> 00:18:02,555 Speaker 1: Center for European Policy Analysis, offers a speculative list. I'm 246 00:18:02,595 --> 00:18:05,755 Speaker 1: going to start a thread on others. She writes, Besides 247 00:18:05,795 --> 00:18:09,475 Speaker 1: Benny Johnson, Tim Poole, et cetera, who should be investigated? 248 00:18:10,675 --> 00:18:15,195 Speaker 1: Are you sitting down? Olga Lautman's two be investigated list? 249 00:18:15,395 --> 00:18:23,035 Speaker 1: In part quote David sachs. Oh, that's Musk's pal. Glenn Greenwald. 250 00:18:23,875 --> 00:18:29,555 Speaker 1: Glenn Greenwald, really, Matt Tayebe, Matt Tayibe, that's Matt Tayebe's name. 251 00:18:30,595 --> 00:18:35,355 Speaker 1: Jack posobc Scott Ritter, Patrick, Hennigsen, Alex Rubinstein, Ben Swan, 252 00:18:35,435 --> 00:18:40,355 Speaker 1: Kit Clarenberg, truth in Media, George Papadoppolis, Simona Papadopolis, Western Lensman, 253 00:18:40,635 --> 00:18:46,355 Speaker 1: Chuck Clesto, Wyatt Reed, Caleb T. Moupan, retired Colonel Douglas McGregor, 254 00:18:46,955 --> 00:18:50,675 Speaker 1: Glenn Greenwald I mentioned him already to continue her quoted list. 255 00:18:50,955 --> 00:18:53,875 Speaker 1: Tara Reid, I know the name Tara Reid from Ray 256 00:18:53,955 --> 00:19:03,955 Speaker 1: McGovern and Roger Waters. Unquote Roger Waters Bluntley I always 257 00:19:03,955 --> 00:19:07,595 Speaker 1: preferred the David Gilmore version of comfortably numb anyway, And 258 00:19:07,715 --> 00:19:15,155 Speaker 1: speaking of Waters Fox's Jesse Waters, no relation to any 259 00:19:15,195 --> 00:19:18,355 Speaker 1: other human, said on the air that he would also 260 00:19:18,515 --> 00:19:21,075 Speaker 1: be happy to become a Russian propagandist for four hundred 261 00:19:21,115 --> 00:19:25,515 Speaker 1: dollars a month. But by my math, that would represent 262 00:19:25,555 --> 00:19:30,915 Speaker 1: a raise for Jesse of four hundred thousand dollars a month. 263 00:19:35,315 --> 00:19:40,955 Speaker 1: Poor cat turd left out again. But speaking of comfortably numb, 264 00:19:41,115 --> 00:19:43,835 Speaker 1: let's hear it for the Washington Post. I mentioned it 265 00:19:43,835 --> 00:19:46,075 Speaker 1: can still do wonders like the Will Summer piece I 266 00:19:46,155 --> 00:19:49,315 Speaker 1: quoted from. On the other hand, from a post political 267 00:19:49,475 --> 00:19:55,835 Speaker 1: m bed named Dylan Wells, while picking up lunch at 268 00:19:55,835 --> 00:19:59,835 Speaker 1: a diner in Eerie, Pennsylvania, I hope the place is 269 00:19:59,875 --> 00:20:03,195 Speaker 1: called this eerie diner. While picking up lunch at a 270 00:20:03,235 --> 00:20:07,235 Speaker 1: diner in eerie Pennsylvania, she writes, Tim Walls did not 271 00:20:07,395 --> 00:20:12,715 Speaker 1: respond to a shouted question about his response to members 272 00:20:12,755 --> 00:20:16,635 Speaker 1: of his family who are supporting Donald Trump. He ordered 273 00:20:16,675 --> 00:20:20,555 Speaker 1: a burger, onion rings and a hot fudge milkshake at 274 00:20:20,595 --> 00:20:25,235 Speaker 1: Sarah's restaurant. Damn wrong name for the restaurant at Sarah's restaurant, 275 00:20:25,315 --> 00:20:28,635 Speaker 1: just over twenty four hours since his last milkshake stop 276 00:20:28,835 --> 00:20:33,875 Speaker 1: on this Pennsylvania campaign swing. Dylan Wells, Washington Post reporting, 277 00:20:36,115 --> 00:20:37,995 Speaker 1: I mean, honest to god, it's like something we left 278 00:20:38,115 --> 00:20:41,995 Speaker 1: out of the script for my character Tom Jumbo Grumbo 279 00:20:42,115 --> 00:20:45,675 Speaker 1: in BoJack Horseman. Let me do that as Tom for 280 00:20:45,715 --> 00:20:48,315 Speaker 1: a second. He ordered a burger, onion rings and a 281 00:20:48,355 --> 00:20:51,715 Speaker 1: hot fdge milkshake at Sarah's restaurant, just over twenty four 282 00:20:51,755 --> 00:20:55,675 Speaker 1: hours since his last milkshake stop on this Pennsylvania campaign swing. 283 00:20:58,955 --> 00:21:02,955 Speaker 1: The Post also yesterday had a curious item an op 284 00:21:03,115 --> 00:21:07,395 Speaker 1: ed from the publisher not of the Post, the publisher 285 00:21:07,435 --> 00:21:10,915 Speaker 1: of the New York Times. And again, if you ever 286 00:21:10,955 --> 00:21:13,635 Speaker 1: wondered how we got here, well we have a new 287 00:21:13,675 --> 00:21:17,435 Speaker 1: first answer, which is the Russian money. That's one answer, 288 00:21:18,715 --> 00:21:23,195 Speaker 1: and then the older answer, the myopia of the impossibly 289 00:21:23,315 --> 00:21:28,955 Speaker 1: rich in whom we have foolishly invested morality. Ag Selzberger 290 00:21:28,995 --> 00:21:32,835 Speaker 1: wrote a creed cur about the attacks on journalism by 291 00:21:32,835 --> 00:21:36,075 Speaker 1: the right of the threat of a different form of 292 00:21:36,115 --> 00:21:39,395 Speaker 1: government in this country, of the death possibly a freedom 293 00:21:39,395 --> 00:21:41,955 Speaker 1: of the press. And it was excellent, and he concluded 294 00:21:41,995 --> 00:21:45,075 Speaker 1: by reassuring the people of this country that he's not 295 00:21:45,515 --> 00:21:51,195 Speaker 1: going to do an effing thing about it. Quote. As 296 00:21:51,195 --> 00:21:55,555 Speaker 1: someone who strongly believes in the foundational importance of journalistic independence, 297 00:21:56,035 --> 00:22:00,395 Speaker 1: I have no interest in waiting into politics. I disagree 298 00:22:00,435 --> 00:22:04,035 Speaker 1: with those who have suggested that the risk Trump poses 299 00:22:04,075 --> 00:22:07,915 Speaker 1: to the free press is so high that news organizations 300 00:22:07,955 --> 00:22:12,515 Speaker 1: such as mine should cast aside neutrality and directly oppose 301 00:22:12,595 --> 00:22:18,875 Speaker 1: his re election. It is beyond shortsighted. Salzburger continues to 302 00:22:19,075 --> 00:22:22,875 Speaker 1: give up journalistic independence out of fear that it might 303 00:22:22,955 --> 00:22:29,475 Speaker 1: later be taken away. I'm just gonna mention two words 304 00:22:29,475 --> 00:22:34,195 Speaker 1: here as an aside ag reichstegfire. At the Times, we 305 00:22:34,275 --> 00:22:37,715 Speaker 1: are committed to following the facts and presenting a full, 306 00:22:38,155 --> 00:22:43,035 Speaker 1: fair and accurate picture of November's election and the candidates 307 00:22:43,035 --> 00:22:49,115 Speaker 1: and issues shaping it. Our democratic model asks different institutions 308 00:22:49,715 --> 00:23:00,595 Speaker 1: to play different roles. This is ours, unquote. Well, I'm 309 00:23:00,635 --> 00:23:03,395 Speaker 1: sure you'll be able to memorize that final paragraph and 310 00:23:03,515 --> 00:23:08,595 Speaker 1: recite it to the Trump revenge tribunal next year. The 311 00:23:08,635 --> 00:23:13,635 Speaker 1: publisher of The New York Effing Times, writing I have 312 00:23:13,715 --> 00:23:18,675 Speaker 1: no interest in waiting into politics would be like President 313 00:23:18,755 --> 00:23:22,155 Speaker 1: Zelenski of Ukraine saying I have no interest in waiting 314 00:23:22,155 --> 00:23:26,395 Speaker 1: into a fight with Putin. Mister Sealzburger, I don't care, 315 00:23:27,035 --> 00:23:33,275 Speaker 1: tough shit, you are already in it. Trump invaded you 316 00:23:33,915 --> 00:23:37,715 Speaker 1: and your country. Get off your high horse and get 317 00:23:37,755 --> 00:23:41,035 Speaker 1: down here with the rest of us and do something 318 00:23:41,195 --> 00:23:49,675 Speaker 1: about it. Or maybe not, maybe just go out of business, 319 00:23:50,155 --> 00:23:54,035 Speaker 1: because what did the Times actually do for freedom of speech? Yesterday? 320 00:23:54,275 --> 00:23:57,795 Speaker 1: It took two minutes of Trumpian words salad, in which 321 00:23:57,795 --> 00:24:01,115 Speaker 1: he was asked about what practical measures and legislation he 322 00:24:01,195 --> 00:24:04,915 Speaker 1: would take to counter the rising costs of child care, 323 00:24:05,755 --> 00:24:10,635 Speaker 1: and he rambled on without pause or sentence structure or 324 00:24:10,675 --> 00:24:13,675 Speaker 1: anything more specific than a vague reference to all that 325 00:24:13,835 --> 00:24:17,475 Speaker 1: money he's gonna get from tariffs, and The Times wrote 326 00:24:17,875 --> 00:24:22,155 Speaker 1: he said he would prioritize legislation on the issue. Clean 327 00:24:22,235 --> 00:24:27,355 Speaker 1: up on Aisle nine, for Craze would be dictator nice 328 00:24:27,395 --> 00:24:31,955 Speaker 1: work standing aside a g also of interest here. The 329 00:24:31,995 --> 00:24:34,435 Speaker 1: problem with being Jesse Waters is that when you take 330 00:24:34,475 --> 00:24:37,515 Speaker 1: a shot at Tim Walls for drinking milkshakes, you clearly 331 00:24:37,555 --> 00:24:43,235 Speaker 1: have forgotten that all Donald Trump does is drink milkshakes. 332 00:24:44,315 --> 00:24:50,875 Speaker 1: I drink her milkshake. That's next. This is countdown. This 333 00:24:51,235 --> 00:25:15,155 Speaker 1: is Countdown with Keith Olberman still ahead of us on 334 00:25:15,155 --> 00:25:18,235 Speaker 1: this edition of Countdown Fridays with Thurber. And I can't 335 00:25:18,235 --> 00:25:22,035 Speaker 1: be sure who wrote the first comedic bit about well, 336 00:25:22,035 --> 00:25:23,715 Speaker 1: of course, when I was a kid we had a 337 00:25:23,835 --> 00:25:26,915 Speaker 1: twolf we had to walk uphill to school and then 338 00:25:27,075 --> 00:25:32,035 Speaker 1: uphill home. But it might have been James Thurber. This 339 00:25:32,075 --> 00:25:34,835 Speaker 1: story this week was my father's favorite Thurber story, and 340 00:25:34,875 --> 00:25:38,355 Speaker 1: it is the definition of subtle hyperbole, if there is 341 00:25:38,395 --> 00:25:41,795 Speaker 1: such a thing. The different approach to kids and school 342 00:25:42,555 --> 00:25:45,795 Speaker 1: in the year nineteen o three, when as you will hear, 343 00:25:46,235 --> 00:25:50,875 Speaker 1: James Thurber insisted that some of his fourth grade classmates 344 00:25:50,915 --> 00:25:55,235 Speaker 1: had reputedly repeated the fourth grade every year since eighteen 345 00:25:55,675 --> 00:26:01,155 Speaker 1: eighty three. Next, first, there are still more new idiots 346 00:26:01,195 --> 00:26:03,235 Speaker 1: to talk about, the daily roundup of the miss Grants, 347 00:26:03,275 --> 00:26:06,875 Speaker 1: morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute two days 348 00:26:07,595 --> 00:26:11,795 Speaker 1: worst persons in the world. I don't do a very 349 00:26:11,795 --> 00:26:15,835 Speaker 1: good Yorkshire accent the bronze. You know what else isn't 350 00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:21,355 Speaker 1: pretty good mid Days at MSNBC, says our Condey proprietor. 351 00:26:22,075 --> 00:26:25,035 Speaker 1: It is not even six months now since the RNA 352 00:26:25,195 --> 00:26:28,915 Speaker 1: Romney McDaniel incident. You remember that when Conday and his 353 00:26:29,075 --> 00:26:33,635 Speaker 1: clueless minions running NBC News hired the Trump propagandist and 354 00:26:33,715 --> 00:26:38,395 Speaker 1: election denier as a contributor to, among other things, MSNBC 355 00:26:38,595 --> 00:26:40,675 Speaker 1: and Meet the Press, and then had to fire her 356 00:26:40,715 --> 00:26:45,315 Speaker 1: two days later. The pressure to in particular, shove the 357 00:26:45,355 --> 00:26:49,675 Speaker 1: network MSNBC back towards the fascist side of the spectrum, 358 00:26:49,715 --> 00:26:53,635 Speaker 1: the death side of the spectrum that began in well, 359 00:26:53,715 --> 00:26:55,435 Speaker 1: let me see when did I start there? October first, 360 00:26:55,515 --> 00:26:59,195 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven. It started around October first, nineteen ninety seven, 361 00:26:59,835 --> 00:27:03,275 Speaker 1: but it peaked around when did I leave January twenty eleven, 362 00:27:03,315 --> 00:27:09,475 Speaker 1: around January two eve. Now today's efforts are almost matching 363 00:27:09,515 --> 00:27:13,115 Speaker 1: those peak moments. I went on at length yesterday about 364 00:27:13,235 --> 00:27:19,275 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough's campaign to elect after mainstreaming Donald Trump, and 365 00:27:19,315 --> 00:27:24,235 Speaker 1: then to enshrine him even after his inauguration. I have 366 00:27:24,395 --> 00:27:29,195 Speaker 1: had to wade through the personally devastating sewage farm that 367 00:27:29,355 --> 00:27:32,755 Speaker 1: is Katie Turrer's work on MSNBC. I have had to 368 00:27:32,915 --> 00:27:35,795 Speaker 1: urge the retirement of Andrea Mitchell, whom I was once 369 00:27:35,995 --> 00:27:38,995 Speaker 1: honored to meet, to work with, and to call a friend. 370 00:27:39,955 --> 00:27:44,795 Speaker 1: And now there's this. Yesterday, the Department of Justice indicted 371 00:27:44,835 --> 00:27:50,835 Speaker 1: two Russian propagandists in a plot to essentially let Putin 372 00:27:50,915 --> 00:27:55,835 Speaker 1: and the Kremlin pay American maga online and video stars 373 00:27:56,275 --> 00:28:01,275 Speaker 1: to undermine this nation, to defeat Ukraine, to install a 374 00:28:01,355 --> 00:28:06,395 Speaker 1: dictator here, to imperil Europe, and to encourage right wingers 375 00:28:06,635 --> 00:28:10,635 Speaker 1: to physically attack and even kill left wingers and moderates. 376 00:28:11,235 --> 00:28:14,115 Speaker 1: Names were named, and as I mentioned earlier, there are 377 00:28:14,115 --> 00:28:16,395 Speaker 1: a lot of obvious hints that some of the Americans 378 00:28:16,395 --> 00:28:18,755 Speaker 1: on this end of the deal have flipped, and other 379 00:28:18,875 --> 00:28:23,755 Speaker 1: names may be named, and that right soon and MSNBC's 380 00:28:23,835 --> 00:28:30,315 Speaker 1: midday live coverage yesterday was almost entirely segment after segment 381 00:28:30,755 --> 00:28:35,875 Speaker 1: after segment after segment about the court hearing for the 382 00:28:35,915 --> 00:28:39,515 Speaker 1: son of the lame duck president of the United States. 383 00:28:40,635 --> 00:28:44,755 Speaker 1: Whatever Hunter Biden did or did not do, it has 384 00:28:44,955 --> 00:28:48,875 Speaker 1: no impact on the presidential race, It has no impact 385 00:28:48,875 --> 00:28:51,595 Speaker 1: on this administration, It has no impact on the life 386 00:28:51,635 --> 00:28:54,355 Speaker 1: of the average American, and certainly it has no impact 387 00:28:54,635 --> 00:28:58,875 Speaker 1: on an attempt by Russia to overthrow our form of 388 00:28:58,995 --> 00:29:03,475 Speaker 1: government using the freedoms of our form of government by 389 00:29:03,555 --> 00:29:08,715 Speaker 1: remote control and bribery like the Russia stooge gate story. 390 00:29:08,875 --> 00:29:15,835 Speaker 1: Does the story MSNBC Dayside ignored? Hen you baden? Because 391 00:29:15,955 --> 00:29:20,755 Speaker 1: NBC executives watch MSNBC Dayside. See, that's why they do this. 392 00:29:21,075 --> 00:29:26,115 Speaker 1: And the pressure to destroy MSNBC's very profitable, multi billion 393 00:29:26,195 --> 00:29:30,675 Speaker 1: dollar space in the news market. And oh, by the way, Comcast, MSNBC, 394 00:29:31,355 --> 00:29:36,275 Speaker 1: all of you there making that billion, You're welcome. They're 395 00:29:36,315 --> 00:29:39,755 Speaker 1: doing this so that their conservative executives at Comcast can 396 00:29:39,795 --> 00:29:42,875 Speaker 1: look at their Trumpest friends or maybe at a Trumpest 397 00:29:42,995 --> 00:29:46,315 Speaker 1: Court of retribution next year and say, we were covering 398 00:29:46,435 --> 00:29:52,555 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, not your friend. Putin this is appalling. This 399 00:29:53,195 --> 00:29:59,835 Speaker 1: is MSNBC the runner up. Senator Ron Johnson, the dead 400 00:29:59,835 --> 00:30:03,475 Speaker 1: eyed Senator from Wisconsin, may be a Russian stooge, but 401 00:30:03,635 --> 00:30:07,155 Speaker 1: in a larger sense, he is international. He is a 402 00:30:07,195 --> 00:30:11,835 Speaker 1: stooge of the world. He is so stupid that there 403 00:30:11,915 --> 00:30:14,915 Speaker 1: is no conspiracy theory he has ever heard that he 404 00:30:14,955 --> 00:30:19,435 Speaker 1: does not believe, including one he apparently just heard and 405 00:30:19,675 --> 00:30:25,955 Speaker 1: while regurgitating it in media. Hmm, why would he be 406 00:30:26,155 --> 00:30:32,275 Speaker 1: regurgitating media anyway. Apparently he just heard this and he 407 00:30:32,315 --> 00:30:35,195 Speaker 1: admits he doesn't understand it, but he's saying it anyway. 408 00:30:35,795 --> 00:30:42,835 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson on WCPT Radio, The Great Depression was a conspiracy. 409 00:30:44,195 --> 00:30:47,115 Speaker 1: It was planned in nineteen twenty nine, and it's going 410 00:30:47,155 --> 00:30:53,035 Speaker 1: to happen again unless Trump gets elected. Joseph P. Kennedy 411 00:30:53,115 --> 00:30:55,715 Speaker 1: and JP Morgan did it once and they will do 412 00:30:55,795 --> 00:30:59,315 Speaker 1: it again. Okay, Ron, let's hear it well. 413 00:30:59,315 --> 00:31:02,675 Speaker 4: One of the interesting revelations of creature from Jackill Island 414 00:31:02,755 --> 00:31:04,675 Speaker 4: is the fact that the Great Depression is pretty well playing. 415 00:31:05,475 --> 00:31:07,795 Speaker 4: You know, all the big money men were pretty well 416 00:31:07,995 --> 00:31:10,115 Speaker 4: warned that they were going to finally collapse the system. 417 00:31:10,555 --> 00:31:13,555 Speaker 4: They had booms and busts, but they had to finally 418 00:31:13,595 --> 00:31:15,555 Speaker 4: just collapse, the system kind of start all over, So 419 00:31:15,915 --> 00:31:18,035 Speaker 4: pull your money out of the market. And so again 420 00:31:18,315 --> 00:31:21,595 Speaker 4: they're the big and powerful, the Joseph Kennedy's of the world. 421 00:31:21,675 --> 00:31:23,795 Speaker 4: You know, the JP Morgan is in the world. They got 422 00:31:23,795 --> 00:31:25,635 Speaker 4: off Scott three, they got out of the marketing time. 423 00:31:26,395 --> 00:31:29,355 Speaker 4: So again I know this. I know it really sounds 424 00:31:29,395 --> 00:31:33,635 Speaker 4: like conspiracy theory. I don't completely understand it, but it 425 00:31:33,755 --> 00:31:36,955 Speaker 4: sure seems just in my bones, they just feel that 426 00:31:37,035 --> 00:31:39,355 Speaker 4: there's a great deal of corruption and control there that 427 00:31:39,755 --> 00:31:42,355 Speaker 4: the vast majority of people do not understand. And again, 428 00:31:42,755 --> 00:31:45,555 Speaker 4: when you're the few people who do understand, and you've 429 00:31:45,555 --> 00:31:49,395 Speaker 4: got the levers of power, bad things can happen. 430 00:31:49,795 --> 00:31:52,635 Speaker 1: By the way, Joseph P. Kennedy and JP Morgan are 431 00:31:52,635 --> 00:31:57,675 Speaker 1: going to do it again. Kennedy died in nineteen sixty nine, 432 00:31:58,595 --> 00:32:02,475 Speaker 1: Morgan died in nineteen thirteen, and the Great Depression thirty 433 00:32:02,515 --> 00:32:07,835 Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty. Unless yes, Senator Johnson means JP Morgan junior, 434 00:32:08,355 --> 00:32:12,315 Speaker 1: or alternatively Johnson meant the actress, singer, and Gong show 435 00:32:12,395 --> 00:32:16,995 Speaker 1: star JP Morgan. That's Jye. She was born in nineteen 436 00:32:17,035 --> 00:32:19,635 Speaker 1: thirty one. So I don't think the nineteen twenty nine 437 00:32:19,675 --> 00:32:26,275 Speaker 1: stock crash and the simultaneous depression were her fault. Her 438 00:32:26,275 --> 00:32:30,715 Speaker 1: performance on the Gong Show was her fault. Senator doesn't 439 00:32:30,755 --> 00:32:34,675 Speaker 1: understand any of this. He just feels it in his bones. Senator, 440 00:32:34,755 --> 00:32:39,355 Speaker 1: that feeling in your bones is actually rickets. But our 441 00:32:39,395 --> 00:32:43,115 Speaker 1: winner is speaking of never understanding it. He will never 442 00:32:43,115 --> 00:32:47,995 Speaker 1: have rickets because he has no bones. Jesse Waters of Fox, who, 443 00:32:47,995 --> 00:32:51,235 Speaker 1: in his rush to attack Tim Walls, has actually managed 444 00:32:51,675 --> 00:32:56,875 Speaker 1: to attack instead his old boss and Donald Trump. The 445 00:32:56,955 --> 00:33:01,115 Speaker 1: quote from Jesse Waters, women love masculinity, and women do 446 00:33:01,195 --> 00:33:04,195 Speaker 1: not love Tim Walls. So that should just tell you 447 00:33:04,235 --> 00:33:07,555 Speaker 1: about how masculine Tim Walls as. The other day you 448 00:33:07,595 --> 00:33:12,995 Speaker 1: saw him with a vanilla ice cream shake. Vanilla ice 449 00:33:12,995 --> 00:33:15,875 Speaker 1: cream shake is a sign of lack of masculinity. Here's 450 00:33:15,915 --> 00:33:18,635 Speaker 1: the problem with that. As I've mentioned many times, Jesse 451 00:33:18,755 --> 00:33:22,515 Speaker 1: Waters started at Fox as the stalker who went out 452 00:33:22,555 --> 00:33:25,555 Speaker 1: and did Bill O'Reilly stalking for him when Bill O'Reilly 453 00:33:25,595 --> 00:33:28,955 Speaker 1: was too busy stalking his own producers. Jesse Waters was 454 00:33:28,955 --> 00:33:32,675 Speaker 1: the guy who literally followed around in a car a blogger, 455 00:33:32,755 --> 00:33:36,395 Speaker 1: a liberal blogger, and told her when he finally confronted 456 00:33:36,395 --> 00:33:39,035 Speaker 1: her and she thought she was being physically attacked by 457 00:33:39,075 --> 00:33:42,475 Speaker 1: some strange guy, and boy is he a strange guy. 458 00:33:43,835 --> 00:33:47,435 Speaker 1: She actually told her Amanda Turkle was her name, that 459 00:33:47,755 --> 00:33:51,995 Speaker 1: O'Reilly had sent her him to follow her to stalk her. 460 00:33:52,235 --> 00:33:54,835 Speaker 1: And he did this countless times with other people. He 461 00:33:54,955 --> 00:34:00,075 Speaker 1: was Little Jesse waters Bill O'Reilly's stalker producer. The thing 462 00:34:00,235 --> 00:34:02,675 Speaker 1: is that I used to have front row seats at 463 00:34:02,755 --> 00:34:05,515 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium, mostly to give the tickets away to make 464 00:34:05,515 --> 00:34:08,035 Speaker 1: a wish, but I also went twenty twenty five times 465 00:34:08,035 --> 00:34:10,955 Speaker 1: a year, entertained my friends, spent my money in a 466 00:34:11,035 --> 00:34:16,195 Speaker 1: very conspicuous and you know, non socialist way, sitting in 467 00:34:16,235 --> 00:34:19,835 Speaker 1: the front row, trying to annoy my former friends at 468 00:34:19,875 --> 00:34:22,635 Speaker 1: the Yes Network by making sure that their shot of 469 00:34:22,675 --> 00:34:24,595 Speaker 1: home plate had to include me in it since I 470 00:34:24,635 --> 00:34:26,715 Speaker 1: was sitting there. I I'd bring my friends and we'd 471 00:34:26,835 --> 00:34:29,555 Speaker 1: eat all the food and everything else. And often two 472 00:34:29,595 --> 00:34:31,955 Speaker 1: people would be seated a couple of rows behind us 473 00:34:31,955 --> 00:34:34,115 Speaker 1: in the free seats that they could call up and 474 00:34:34,155 --> 00:34:36,515 Speaker 1: demand from the Yankees because they were too cheap to 475 00:34:36,555 --> 00:34:39,035 Speaker 1: buy front row tickets or any other tickets. And they 476 00:34:39,115 --> 00:34:41,675 Speaker 1: used to sit there, two friends apparently, and they used 477 00:34:41,715 --> 00:34:46,395 Speaker 1: to drink nothing but vanilla ice cream shakes. To use 478 00:34:46,475 --> 00:34:48,875 Speaker 1: Jesse Water's phrase, the other day you signed with a 479 00:34:48,955 --> 00:34:54,155 Speaker 1: vanilla ice cream shake, which Tim Walls calls not masculine. 480 00:34:54,555 --> 00:34:58,435 Speaker 1: The two friends were Bill O'Reilly and his friend Donald Trump, 481 00:34:58,915 --> 00:35:00,275 Speaker 1: and the two of them used to sit there and 482 00:35:00,315 --> 00:35:03,195 Speaker 1: I would look over periodically because O'Reilly is always, as 483 00:35:03,235 --> 00:35:05,915 Speaker 1: you know, fascinated me. Every time he's ever seen me, 484 00:35:06,275 --> 00:35:08,395 Speaker 1: he's looked the other way, and then when he thought 485 00:35:08,435 --> 00:35:10,155 Speaker 1: I wasn't looking at him, he would stare at me. 486 00:35:10,395 --> 00:35:12,155 Speaker 1: So we would have these I don't think he's looking 487 00:35:12,155 --> 00:35:14,915 Speaker 1: at me, I'm going to stare at him contests. In 488 00:35:14,955 --> 00:35:17,755 Speaker 1: any event, all they did they never talked, they never 489 00:35:17,795 --> 00:35:20,795 Speaker 1: said anything, They never interacted with anybody. All they did 490 00:35:20,875 --> 00:35:27,715 Speaker 1: was sit there chain chugging vanilla milkshakes. But apparently to 491 00:35:27,875 --> 00:35:31,635 Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly's former employee Jesse Waters, who is openly trying 492 00:35:31,675 --> 00:35:35,475 Speaker 1: to get Donald Trump elected president, sorry, dictator of the 493 00:35:35,555 --> 00:35:39,875 Speaker 1: United States. To Jesse Waters, the vanilla ice cream shake 494 00:35:39,955 --> 00:35:43,555 Speaker 1: favored by O'Reilly and Trump is a sign of a 495 00:35:43,595 --> 00:35:49,275 Speaker 1: feminine man. You heard him, Jesse, I may soon be 496 00:35:49,435 --> 00:35:54,035 Speaker 1: selling milkshakes at Yankee Stadium, right. I made an Oopsie, 497 00:35:54,075 --> 00:36:28,995 Speaker 1: Waters Today's worst milkshake in the world to the number 498 00:36:28,995 --> 00:36:31,795 Speaker 1: one story on the Countdown, and Friday's were Thurber and 499 00:36:31,875 --> 00:36:36,435 Speaker 1: I don't know when I went to Sullivan became my 500 00:36:36,555 --> 00:36:40,315 Speaker 1: father's favorite Thurber story. I suspect it was in the hospital, 501 00:36:40,355 --> 00:36:42,115 Speaker 1: when I was reading to him in the last six 502 00:36:42,155 --> 00:36:44,315 Speaker 1: months of his life. I know I read it to 503 00:36:44,395 --> 00:36:46,675 Speaker 1: him at least half a dozen times, the first five 504 00:36:46,755 --> 00:36:51,475 Speaker 1: by his request. The last time he did not request it, 505 00:36:51,675 --> 00:36:54,235 Speaker 1: in fact, and this is the most perverse kind of 506 00:36:54,315 --> 00:36:58,515 Speaker 1: compliment I think any restriter has ever received. I read 507 00:36:58,555 --> 00:37:01,235 Speaker 1: this story to him. It was the last thing that 508 00:37:01,355 --> 00:37:03,115 Speaker 1: I read to him. In fact, it was the last 509 00:37:03,115 --> 00:37:05,155 Speaker 1: thing he did on earth, was to listen to this 510 00:37:05,235 --> 00:37:10,395 Speaker 1: story in a state of semi consciousness. He waited till 511 00:37:10,435 --> 00:37:13,155 Speaker 1: the end of it. He took one deep, satisfied breath, 512 00:37:13,195 --> 00:37:17,515 Speaker 1: and he died. I don't recommend this, but I think 513 00:37:17,555 --> 00:37:20,195 Speaker 1: it does speak to the quality of the writing I 514 00:37:20,315 --> 00:37:26,115 Speaker 1: went to Sullivant by James Thurber. I was reminded the 515 00:37:26,115 --> 00:37:28,995 Speaker 1: other morning by what I don't remember, and it doesn't matter, 516 00:37:29,355 --> 00:37:31,995 Speaker 1: of a crisp September morning last year when I went 517 00:37:32,035 --> 00:37:34,555 Speaker 1: to the Grand Central to see a little boy of 518 00:37:34,675 --> 00:37:37,715 Speaker 1: ten get excitedly on a special coach that was to 519 00:37:37,755 --> 00:37:41,195 Speaker 1: take him to a boys' school somewhere north of Boston. 520 00:37:41,795 --> 00:37:44,915 Speaker 1: He had never been away to school before. The coach 521 00:37:45,075 --> 00:37:48,595 Speaker 1: was squirming with youngsters. You could tell after a while 522 00:37:48,915 --> 00:37:53,075 Speaker 1: the novitiates shining and tremulous and a little awed from 523 00:37:53,075 --> 00:37:56,075 Speaker 1: the more aloof boys who had been away to school before. 524 00:37:56,675 --> 00:38:00,515 Speaker 1: But they were very much alike at first glance. There 525 00:38:00,715 --> 00:38:02,635 Speaker 1: was for me, in case you thought I was leading 526 00:38:02,715 --> 00:38:07,155 Speaker 1: up to that, no sharp feeling of old lost years 527 00:38:07,195 --> 00:38:09,875 Speaker 1: in the tense atmosphere of that coach, because I never 528 00:38:09,915 --> 00:38:11,475 Speaker 1: went away to a private school when I was a 529 00:38:11,475 --> 00:38:16,475 Speaker 1: little boy. I went to Sullivant School in Columbus. I 530 00:38:16,515 --> 00:38:18,395 Speaker 1: thought about it as I walked back to my hotel. 531 00:38:19,475 --> 00:38:22,795 Speaker 1: Sullivant was an ordinary public school, and yet it was 532 00:38:22,875 --> 00:38:26,395 Speaker 1: not like any other I have ever known of. In 533 00:38:26,515 --> 00:38:29,875 Speaker 1: seeking an adjective to describe the Sullivant School of my 534 00:38:30,035 --> 00:38:32,915 Speaker 1: years nineteen hundred and nineteen hundred and eight, I can 535 00:38:32,995 --> 00:38:39,355 Speaker 1: only think of tough. Sullivant School was tough. The boys 536 00:38:39,395 --> 00:38:42,435 Speaker 1: of Sullivant came mostly from the region around Central Market, 537 00:38:42,475 --> 00:38:46,195 Speaker 1: a poorish district with many families of the laboring class. 538 00:38:47,035 --> 00:38:49,395 Speaker 1: The school district also included a number of homes of 539 00:38:49,435 --> 00:38:51,635 Speaker 1: the upper classes, because at the turn of the century 540 00:38:51,875 --> 00:38:55,515 Speaker 1: one or two old residential streets still lingered near the 541 00:38:55,555 --> 00:38:59,035 Speaker 1: shouting and rumbling of the market, reluctant to surrender their 542 00:38:59,075 --> 00:39:01,955 Speaker 1: fine old houses to the encroaching rabble of commerce and 543 00:39:02,035 --> 00:39:07,715 Speaker 1: become as a last they now have more vulgar business streets. 544 00:39:09,115 --> 00:39:13,115 Speaker 1: I remember always first of all, the Sullivant baseball team. 545 00:39:13,875 --> 00:39:16,555 Speaker 1: Most grammar school baseball teams are made up of boys 546 00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:18,315 Speaker 1: in the seventh and eighth grades, or they were in 547 00:39:18,355 --> 00:39:21,995 Speaker 1: my day, But with Sullivant it was different. Several of 548 00:39:22,035 --> 00:39:25,075 Speaker 1: its best players were in the fourth grade, known to 549 00:39:25,115 --> 00:39:29,155 Speaker 1: the teachers of the school as the terrible fourth. In 550 00:39:29,235 --> 00:39:37,795 Speaker 1: that grade you first encountered fractions and long division, and 551 00:39:37,955 --> 00:39:43,995 Speaker 1: many pupils lodged there for years, like logs in a brook. 552 00:39:45,435 --> 00:39:47,675 Speaker 1: Some of the more able baseball players have been in 553 00:39:47,715 --> 00:39:51,995 Speaker 1: the fourth grade for seven or eight years. Then, too, 554 00:39:52,035 --> 00:39:54,355 Speaker 1: there were a number of boys who had not been 555 00:39:54,395 --> 00:39:56,875 Speaker 1: in the class past the normal time, but were nevertheless 556 00:39:56,875 --> 00:40:01,315 Speaker 1: deep into their teens. They had avoided starting to school 557 00:40:01,715 --> 00:40:04,755 Speaker 1: by eluding the truant officer until they were ready to 558 00:40:04,835 --> 00:40:07,475 Speaker 1: go into long pants, but he always got them in 559 00:40:07,515 --> 00:40:10,555 Speaker 1: the end. One or two of these fourth graders were 560 00:40:10,595 --> 00:40:14,395 Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen years old, but the dean of the 561 00:40:14,435 --> 00:40:18,235 Speaker 1: squad was a tall, husky young man of twenty two 562 00:40:18,955 --> 00:40:21,875 Speaker 1: who was in the fifth grade. The teachers of the 563 00:40:21,915 --> 00:40:23,675 Speaker 1: third and fourth I had got tired of having him 564 00:40:23,715 --> 00:40:26,195 Speaker 1: around as the years rolled along, and had pushed him on. 565 00:40:27,355 --> 00:40:31,995 Speaker 1: His name was Dana Wayeney, and he had a mustache. 566 00:40:32,675 --> 00:40:35,155 Speaker 1: Don't ask me why his parents allowed him to stay 567 00:40:35,155 --> 00:40:38,235 Speaker 1: in school so long. There were many mysteries at Sullivant 568 00:40:38,475 --> 00:40:41,115 Speaker 1: that were never cleared up. All I know is why 569 00:40:41,195 --> 00:40:43,995 Speaker 1: he kept on in school and didn't go to work. 570 00:40:44,795 --> 00:40:48,235 Speaker 1: He liked playing on the baseball team, and he had 571 00:40:48,275 --> 00:40:50,755 Speaker 1: a pretty easy time in class because the teachers had 572 00:40:50,755 --> 00:40:54,115 Speaker 1: given up asking him any questions at all years before. 573 00:40:55,595 --> 00:40:58,275 Speaker 1: The story was that he had answered but one question 574 00:40:58,315 --> 00:41:00,835 Speaker 1: in the seventeen years he had been going to classes 575 00:41:00,875 --> 00:41:04,795 Speaker 1: at Sullivant, and that was what is one use of 576 00:41:04,835 --> 00:41:11,115 Speaker 1: the comma? The kami, said Dana, embarrassingly, unsnarling his long 577 00:41:11,235 --> 00:41:13,915 Speaker 1: legs from beneath a desk much too low for him, 578 00:41:14,355 --> 00:41:18,355 Speaker 1: is used to shoot marbles with Kami's was our word 579 00:41:18,395 --> 00:41:21,395 Speaker 1: for those cheap ten percent marbles, in case it wasn't yours. 580 00:41:22,835 --> 00:41:26,275 Speaker 1: The Sullivant School baseball team of nineteen hundred and five 581 00:41:26,835 --> 00:41:29,955 Speaker 1: defeated several high school teams in the city and claimed 582 00:41:29,955 --> 00:41:32,395 Speaker 1: the high school championship of the state, to which title 583 00:41:32,395 --> 00:41:36,035 Speaker 1: it had, of course, no technical right. I believe the 584 00:41:36,035 --> 00:41:39,435 Speaker 1: boys could have proved their moral right to the championship, however, 585 00:41:39,755 --> 00:41:41,595 Speaker 1: if they had been allowed to go out of town 586 00:41:41,755 --> 00:41:44,675 Speaker 1: and play all the teams they challenged, such as the 587 00:41:44,675 --> 00:41:48,635 Speaker 1: powerful Dayton and Toledo Nines. But their road season was 588 00:41:48,635 --> 00:41:52,795 Speaker 1: called off after a terrific fight that occurred during one 589 00:41:52,835 --> 00:41:58,915 Speaker 1: game at Mount Stirling or Picqua or Zenia, I can't 590 00:41:58,915 --> 00:42:03,595 Speaker 1: remember which. Our first baseman, Dana Whaney, crowned the umpire 591 00:42:03,635 --> 00:42:06,915 Speaker 1: with a bat during an altercation overcalled strike and the 592 00:42:06,955 --> 00:42:10,075 Speaker 1: fight was on. It took place in the fourth inning, 593 00:42:10,115 --> 00:42:12,395 Speaker 1: so of course the game was never finished. The battle 594 00:42:12,435 --> 00:42:15,115 Speaker 1: continued on down into the business section of the town 595 00:42:15,195 --> 00:42:19,035 Speaker 1: and raged for hours, with much destruction of property. But 596 00:42:19,275 --> 00:42:22,515 Speaker 1: since Sullivan was ahead of the time seventeen to nothing, 597 00:42:23,115 --> 00:42:25,195 Speaker 1: there could have been no doubt as to the outcome. 598 00:42:26,595 --> 00:42:30,155 Speaker 1: Nobody was killed all of US boys were sure our 599 00:42:30,235 --> 00:42:33,195 Speaker 1: team could have beaten Ohio State University that year, but 600 00:42:33,235 --> 00:42:38,475 Speaker 1: they wouldn't play us. They were scared. Wayney was by 601 00:42:38,515 --> 00:42:40,995 Speaker 1: no means the biggest or toughest guy on the Grammar 602 00:42:40,995 --> 00:42:43,595 Speaker 1: School team. He was merely the oldest, being about a 603 00:42:43,715 --> 00:42:47,835 Speaker 1: year the senior of Floyd, the center fielder who could 604 00:42:47,915 --> 00:42:50,115 Speaker 1: jump five feet straight into the air without taking a 605 00:42:50,195 --> 00:42:54,835 Speaker 1: running start. Nobody knew, not even the Board of Education, 606 00:42:54,915 --> 00:42:59,195 Speaker 1: which once tried to find out whether Floyd was Floyd's 607 00:42:59,635 --> 00:43:05,075 Speaker 1: first name or his last name. He apparently only had one. 608 00:43:06,395 --> 00:43:09,515 Speaker 1: He didn't have any parents, and nobody, including himself, seemed 609 00:43:09,515 --> 00:43:12,755 Speaker 1: to know where he lived. When teachers insisted that he 610 00:43:12,835 --> 00:43:14,755 Speaker 1: must have another name to go with Floyd, he would 611 00:43:14,755 --> 00:43:19,115 Speaker 1: grow sullen and ominous, and they would cease questioning him 612 00:43:19,115 --> 00:43:22,955 Speaker 1: because he was a dangerous scholar in his schoolroom brawl, 613 00:43:22,995 --> 00:43:25,715 Speaker 1: as mister Harrigan, the janitor found out one morning when 614 00:43:25,715 --> 00:43:29,275 Speaker 1: he was called in by a screaming teacher. All our 615 00:43:29,355 --> 00:43:33,115 Speaker 1: teachers were women to get Floyd under control after she 616 00:43:33,235 --> 00:43:36,435 Speaker 1: had tried to whip him and he had begun to 617 00:43:36,635 --> 00:43:42,115 Speaker 1: take the room apart, beginning with the desks, Floyd broke 618 00:43:42,155 --> 00:43:44,995 Speaker 1: into small pieces the switch she had used on him. 619 00:43:45,555 --> 00:43:48,995 Speaker 1: Some said he also ate it. I don't know, because 620 00:43:49,035 --> 00:43:51,195 Speaker 1: I was home sick at the time with mumps or something. 621 00:43:52,235 --> 00:43:56,115 Speaker 1: Harrigan was a burly, iron muscle janitor, a man come 622 00:43:56,115 --> 00:43:58,955 Speaker 1: from a long line of coal shovelers, but he was 623 00:43:59,035 --> 00:44:01,475 Speaker 1: no match for Floyd, who had to be sure the 624 00:44:01,515 --> 00:44:04,995 Speaker 1: considerable advantage of being more aroused than mister Harrigan. When 625 00:44:04,995 --> 00:44:08,315 Speaker 1: their fight started, Floyd had him down and was sitting 626 00:44:08,355 --> 00:44:10,395 Speaker 1: on his chest in no time, and Harrigan had to 627 00:44:10,435 --> 00:44:12,795 Speaker 1: promise to be good and to say that's what I 628 00:44:12,915 --> 00:44:18,315 Speaker 1: get ten times before Floyd would let him up. I 629 00:44:18,355 --> 00:44:21,515 Speaker 1: don't suppose I would ever have got through Sullivant School 630 00:44:21,595 --> 00:44:25,315 Speaker 1: alive if it hadn't been for Floyd. For some reason, 631 00:44:25,355 --> 00:44:29,595 Speaker 1: he appointed himself my protector, and I needed one. If 632 00:44:29,595 --> 00:44:32,195 Speaker 1: Floyd was known to be on your side, nobody in 633 00:44:32,235 --> 00:44:35,475 Speaker 1: the school would dare be after you and chase you home. 634 00:44:35,955 --> 00:44:38,235 Speaker 1: I was one of the ten or fifteen male pupils 635 00:44:38,275 --> 00:44:42,755 Speaker 1: in Sullivant School who always or almost always knew their lessons, 636 00:44:43,195 --> 00:44:46,115 Speaker 1: and I believe Floyd admired the mental prowess of a 637 00:44:46,155 --> 00:44:49,675 Speaker 1: youngster who knew how many continents there were, and whether 638 00:44:49,755 --> 00:44:53,955 Speaker 1: or not the sun was inhabited. Also, one time, when 639 00:44:53,995 --> 00:44:56,555 Speaker 1: it came to be my turn to read to the class, 640 00:44:56,555 --> 00:45:00,275 Speaker 1: we used to take turns reading American history aloud, I 641 00:45:00,315 --> 00:45:04,115 Speaker 1: came across the word Duquane and knew how to pronounce it. 642 00:45:04,955 --> 00:45:09,275 Speaker 1: That charmed Floyd, who had been slouched in his seat 643 00:45:09,355 --> 00:45:12,755 Speaker 1: idly following the printed page of his worn and penciled textbook. 644 00:45:13,875 --> 00:45:16,995 Speaker 1: How you know that was duquane, boy, he asked me 645 00:45:17,075 --> 00:45:20,875 Speaker 1: after class. I don't know, I said, I just knew it. 646 00:45:21,755 --> 00:45:24,955 Speaker 1: He looked at me with round eyes. Oh that's something 647 00:45:25,195 --> 00:45:28,355 Speaker 1: he said. After that word got around that Floyd would 648 00:45:28,395 --> 00:45:30,835 Speaker 1: beat the tar out of anybody that messed around with me. 649 00:45:32,035 --> 00:45:34,195 Speaker 1: I wore glasses from the time I was eight, and 650 00:45:34,235 --> 00:45:36,395 Speaker 1: I knew my lessons, and both of those things were 651 00:45:36,395 --> 00:45:41,635 Speaker 1: considered pretty terrible at Sullivan. Floyd had one idiosyncrasy though. 652 00:45:41,875 --> 00:45:45,715 Speaker 1: In the early nineteen hundreds, long, warm, furry gloves that 653 00:45:45,795 --> 00:45:49,515 Speaker 1: came almost to your elbows were popular with boys, and 654 00:45:49,635 --> 00:45:53,235 Speaker 1: Floyd had one of the biggest pears in school. He 655 00:45:53,315 --> 00:45:58,075 Speaker 1: wore them the year round. Dick Peterson was an either 656 00:45:58,355 --> 00:46:00,475 Speaker 1: greater figure on the baseball team and in the school 657 00:46:00,475 --> 00:46:03,075 Speaker 1: than Floyd was. He had a way in the classroom 658 00:46:03,115 --> 00:46:11,395 Speaker 1: of blurting out a long, deep, rolling be for no 659 00:46:11,595 --> 00:46:15,795 Speaker 1: reason at all. Once he licked three boys his own size, 660 00:46:15,835 --> 00:46:19,235 Speaker 1: single handed, really single handed, for he fought with his 661 00:46:19,355 --> 00:46:22,515 Speaker 1: right hand and held a mandolin in his left hand 662 00:46:22,555 --> 00:46:27,635 Speaker 1: all the time. It came out uninjured. Dick and Floyd 663 00:46:27,835 --> 00:46:30,595 Speaker 1: never met in mortal combat, so nobody ever knew which 664 00:46:30,635 --> 00:46:34,275 Speaker 1: one could beat, and the scholars were about evenly divided 665 00:46:34,315 --> 00:46:37,875 Speaker 1: in their opinions. Many a fight started among them after 666 00:46:37,875 --> 00:46:41,115 Speaker 1: school when the argument came up. I think school never 667 00:46:41,235 --> 00:46:44,635 Speaker 1: let out at Sullivan without at least one fight starting up, 668 00:46:44,635 --> 00:46:46,515 Speaker 1: and sometimes there was as many as five or six 669 00:46:46,635 --> 00:46:49,195 Speaker 1: raging between the corner of Oak and sixth Streets and 670 00:46:49,235 --> 00:46:52,035 Speaker 1: the corner of Rich and Fourth Streets four blocks away. 671 00:46:53,955 --> 00:46:56,835 Speaker 1: Now and again, virtually the whole school turned out to 672 00:46:56,835 --> 00:46:59,955 Speaker 1: fight the Catholic boys of the Holy Cross Academy in 673 00:47:00,075 --> 00:47:04,275 Speaker 1: Fifth Street near town for no reason at all, in 674 00:47:04,315 --> 00:47:08,155 Speaker 1: winter with snowballs and ice balls, in other seasons with fists, 675 00:47:08,435 --> 00:47:14,235 Speaker 1: brick bats, and clubs. Dick Peterson was always in the van, yelling, singing, 676 00:47:14,675 --> 00:47:18,675 Speaker 1: being whirling all the way around when he swung with 677 00:47:18,715 --> 00:47:20,555 Speaker 1: his right, or if he hadn't brought his mandle in 678 00:47:20,595 --> 00:47:24,475 Speaker 1: his left and missed. He made himself the pitcher on 679 00:47:24,515 --> 00:47:27,635 Speaker 1: the baseball team because he was the captain. He was 680 00:47:27,675 --> 00:47:30,475 Speaker 1: the captain because everybody else was afraid to challenge his 681 00:47:30,515 --> 00:47:35,315 Speaker 1: self election except Floyd. Floyd was too lazy to pitch, 682 00:47:35,355 --> 00:47:37,395 Speaker 1: and he didn't care who was captain because he didn't 683 00:47:37,395 --> 00:47:42,395 Speaker 1: fully comprehend what that meant. On one occasion, when Earl Baddock, 684 00:47:42,755 --> 00:47:46,155 Speaker 1: a steamfitter's son, had shut out Mound Street School for 685 00:47:46,275 --> 00:47:48,915 Speaker 1: six innings without a hit, Dick took him out of 686 00:47:48,955 --> 00:47:52,595 Speaker 1: the pitcher's box and went in himself. He was hit 687 00:47:52,715 --> 00:47:54,555 Speaker 1: hard and the other team scored, but it didn't make 688 00:47:54,595 --> 00:47:57,475 Speaker 1: much difference because the margin of Sullivan's victory was so 689 00:47:57,555 --> 00:48:01,955 Speaker 1: great the team didn't lose a game for five years 690 00:48:01,995 --> 00:48:05,515 Speaker 1: to another grammar school. When Dick Peterson was in the 691 00:48:05,595 --> 00:48:09,715 Speaker 1: sixth grade, he got into a saloon brawl and was killed. 692 00:48:11,755 --> 00:48:14,435 Speaker 1: When I go back to Columbus, I always walked past 693 00:48:14,435 --> 00:48:17,275 Speaker 1: Sullivant School. I have never happened to get there when 694 00:48:17,315 --> 00:48:19,355 Speaker 1: classes were letting out, so I don't know what the 695 00:48:19,395 --> 00:48:22,635 Speaker 1: pupils are like. Now. I am sure there are no 696 00:48:22,715 --> 00:48:28,395 Speaker 1: more Dick Peterson's and no more Floyd's unless Floyd is 697 00:48:28,475 --> 00:48:33,395 Speaker 1: still going to school there. The playyard is still entirely 698 00:48:33,475 --> 00:48:36,395 Speaker 1: bare of grass and covered with gravel, and the sycamore 699 00:48:36,355 --> 00:48:38,875 Speaker 1: is still lining the curb between the schoolhouse fence and 700 00:48:38,915 --> 00:48:42,515 Speaker 1: the Oak Street car line. A street car line running 701 00:48:42,555 --> 00:48:45,155 Speaker 1: past a schoolhouse is a dangerous thing as a rule, 702 00:48:45,515 --> 00:48:47,475 Speaker 1: but I remember no one being injured while I was 703 00:48:47,515 --> 00:48:51,235 Speaker 1: attending Sullivant. I do remember, however, one person who came 704 00:48:51,355 --> 00:48:54,995 Speaker 1: very near being injured. He was a motorman on the 705 00:48:55,035 --> 00:48:58,435 Speaker 1: Oak Street line, and once when his car stopped at 706 00:48:58,435 --> 00:49:00,875 Speaker 1: the corner of six to let off passengers, he yelled 707 00:49:00,915 --> 00:49:03,675 Speaker 1: at Judy Davidson, who played third base on the ball 708 00:49:03,715 --> 00:49:05,435 Speaker 1: team and was a member of the Terrible Fourth, to 709 00:49:05,475 --> 00:49:09,035 Speaker 1: get out of the way. Choudy was fourteen years old, 710 00:49:09,035 --> 00:49:11,755 Speaker 1: but huge for his age, and he was standing on 711 00:49:11,795 --> 00:49:15,995 Speaker 1: the tracks taking a chew of tobacco. Come on down 712 00:49:16,035 --> 00:49:19,835 Speaker 1: off of that con I'll not kip lock off, said Chouty, 713 00:49:19,875 --> 00:49:22,395 Speaker 1: and what I can only describe as a sullivant tone 714 00:49:22,395 --> 00:49:27,115 Speaker 1: of voice. The motorman waited until Shooty moved slowly off 715 00:49:27,155 --> 00:49:30,955 Speaker 1: the tracks, then he went on about his business. I 716 00:49:30,995 --> 00:49:34,555 Speaker 1: think it was lucky for him that he did. There 717 00:49:34,595 --> 00:49:41,555 Speaker 1: were boys in those days. I went to Sullivant by 718 00:49:41,635 --> 00:49:58,915 Speaker 1: James Thurber. The baseball team could have beaten Ohio State. 719 00:50:01,395 --> 00:50:03,235 Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank 720 00:50:03,275 --> 00:50:05,635 Speaker 1: you for listening. We are now back to five episodes 721 00:50:05,675 --> 00:50:10,235 Speaker 1: a week, starting Monday, posting nightly just after midnight Eastern 722 00:50:10,315 --> 00:50:14,395 Speaker 1: as usual. I'm gonna say this again. The ones on 723 00:50:14,475 --> 00:50:18,395 Speaker 1: Monday are gonna be brief, probably less than ten minutes, 724 00:50:18,635 --> 00:50:22,195 Speaker 1: so I don't want to hear any complaints. You got me. 725 00:50:22,835 --> 00:50:25,515 Speaker 1: I'm an old man. I've been doing something like this 726 00:50:25,635 --> 00:50:30,275 Speaker 1: every day for like forty nine years now. I need 727 00:50:31,075 --> 00:50:34,995 Speaker 1: a nap. I'm giving my nap up so you can 728 00:50:35,035 --> 00:50:41,595 Speaker 1: have this on Monday mornings. Hush. The YouTube version goes 729 00:50:41,675 --> 00:50:44,035 Speaker 1: up around five am. If you're not subscribing to one 730 00:50:44,195 --> 00:50:46,075 Speaker 1: or both, and you know what, if I'm going to 731 00:50:46,115 --> 00:50:49,075 Speaker 1: go and do this, you should subscribe to both the 732 00:50:49,115 --> 00:50:55,155 Speaker 1: YouTube version and the podcast version. Artificial inflation of numbers online? 733 00:50:55,315 --> 00:50:58,115 Speaker 1: Who to thunk it? I'm just gonna make a public 734 00:50:58,155 --> 00:51:01,435 Speaker 1: appeal here. I don't have Kremlin money coming in. I 735 00:51:01,475 --> 00:51:05,635 Speaker 1: don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars now, Look, I 736 00:51:05,675 --> 00:51:08,035 Speaker 1: don't need any more money. If I live to be 737 00:51:08,035 --> 00:51:09,795 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty two years old, I'm going to 738 00:51:09,875 --> 00:51:12,755 Speaker 1: run out of cash. On the other hand, if you'd 739 00:51:12,795 --> 00:51:15,435 Speaker 1: like to keep motivating me, cash is a good way 740 00:51:15,475 --> 00:51:17,755 Speaker 1: of doing it. When I don't want to do this 741 00:51:18,275 --> 00:51:21,675 Speaker 1: and I think, Wow, four hundred thousand dollars a week 742 00:51:21,675 --> 00:51:26,275 Speaker 1: from the Kremlin, Okay, I can understand why these idiots 743 00:51:26,315 --> 00:51:28,635 Speaker 1: are doing it. And I'm not asking for four hundred 744 00:51:28,635 --> 00:51:31,035 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and I certainly don't want it from the Kremlin. 745 00:51:31,915 --> 00:51:36,555 Speaker 1: Four hundred thousand dollars a year from the We don't 746 00:51:36,595 --> 00:51:40,475 Speaker 1: have a liberal version of the Kremlin. Four thousand dollars 747 00:51:40,515 --> 00:51:45,395 Speaker 1: a month from the forty dollars a week. All right, 748 00:51:45,395 --> 00:51:47,675 Speaker 1: how much you get if you got on you? What 749 00:51:47,755 --> 00:51:50,235 Speaker 1: am I asking for you from you? Am I asking 750 00:51:50,235 --> 00:51:52,395 Speaker 1: for four dollars a week? No, I'm not. I'm saying, 751 00:51:52,555 --> 00:51:54,795 Speaker 1: just subscribe to the two things and we'll inflate the 752 00:51:54,875 --> 00:51:58,195 Speaker 1: numbers that way. That'll be my motivation. Oh, there are 753 00:51:58,195 --> 00:52:01,435 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million people listening to this. Well, 754 00:52:01,475 --> 00:52:04,355 Speaker 1: it's it's two hundred and fifty people and they've each 755 00:52:04,675 --> 00:52:11,515 Speaker 1: described a million times. But I digress. Please share this 756 00:52:11,555 --> 00:52:14,955 Speaker 1: podcast with somebody who does not subscribe. Brian Ray and 757 00:52:14,995 --> 00:52:17,915 Speaker 1: John Phillip Shaneil, the musical directors, have Countdown Arrange, produced 758 00:52:17,915 --> 00:52:21,275 Speaker 1: and performed most of our music. They have subscribed two 759 00:52:21,315 --> 00:52:24,675 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one times each. Mister Chanelle handled orchestration 760 00:52:24,755 --> 00:52:27,835 Speaker 1: in keyboards, mister Ray was on the guitars, bass and drums. 761 00:52:27,835 --> 00:52:29,235 Speaker 1: And of course when I say two hundred and seventy 762 00:52:29,235 --> 00:52:32,675 Speaker 1: one times each, I'm lying. These are all principled people 763 00:52:32,675 --> 00:52:36,395 Speaker 1: who have not subscribed more than once. Unfortunately, it was 764 00:52:36,395 --> 00:52:39,635 Speaker 1: produced by TKO Brothers. Our satirical and pithy musical comments 765 00:52:39,795 --> 00:52:43,115 Speaker 1: are by the best baseball stadium organist ever, the eminently 766 00:52:43,275 --> 00:52:46,875 Speaker 1: ethical Nancy Faust. The sports music is the Olderman theme 767 00:52:46,875 --> 00:52:50,795 Speaker 1: from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis, a completely 768 00:52:50,835 --> 00:52:54,755 Speaker 1: ethical individual courtesy of ESPN Inc. Nothing but ethics there. 769 00:52:54,835 --> 00:52:58,635 Speaker 1: That's what the E in ESPN stands for. I mean 770 00:52:58,875 --> 00:53:03,355 Speaker 1: ESPN could underwrite this other music arranged and performed by 771 00:53:03,355 --> 00:53:06,915 Speaker 1: Noah Horns allowed. I do have to pay for the advertisements. Now, 772 00:53:07,835 --> 00:53:11,195 Speaker 1: maybe someone can underwrite the advertisements. My announcer today is 773 00:53:11,195 --> 00:53:13,715 Speaker 1: my friend John Dean, and by the way, for all 774 00:53:13,715 --> 00:53:16,555 Speaker 1: the joking around about ethics. When I list all the 775 00:53:16,595 --> 00:53:19,995 Speaker 1: people I know with ethics, John is first, and then 776 00:53:20,035 --> 00:53:24,115 Speaker 1: there's like a five hundred person spaceless gap there until 777 00:53:24,155 --> 00:53:25,955 Speaker 1: we get to number two. Who is actually number five 778 00:53:25,995 --> 00:53:28,635 Speaker 1: hundred and two. I have to figure out who that is. 779 00:53:29,235 --> 00:53:32,035 Speaker 1: Everything else was pretty much my fault. Maybe I'm number 780 00:53:32,035 --> 00:53:36,075 Speaker 1: five hundred and two of all the ethical people I know. Coincidentally, 781 00:53:36,115 --> 00:53:38,835 Speaker 1: that's the five hundred and first edition of countdown for 782 00:53:38,995 --> 00:53:41,675 Speaker 1: this the sixty first day until the twenty twenty four 783 00:53:41,875 --> 00:53:44,955 Speaker 1: presidential election, the one thousand, three hundred and thirty third 784 00:53:45,035 --> 00:53:48,755 Speaker 1: day since convicted felon dementia j Trump's first attempted coup 785 00:53:48,995 --> 00:53:51,915 Speaker 1: against the democratically elected government of the United States. I 786 00:53:51,915 --> 00:53:55,675 Speaker 1: don't think Trump's on that ethical list at all. He's 787 00:53:55,715 --> 00:54:01,435 Speaker 1: down there below Ron Johnson use the September eighteenth sentencing hearing, 788 00:54:02,275 --> 00:54:05,715 Speaker 1: use the mental health system used presidential immunity. The Supreme 789 00:54:05,835 --> 00:54:09,035 Speaker 1: Theocratic Court has given it to you, President Biden. Hugh's 790 00:54:09,075 --> 00:54:11,875 Speaker 1: the immunity. I mean, they've said, if it's official, it's legal, 791 00:54:11,915 --> 00:54:16,155 Speaker 1: Go have fun. The next scheduled countdown is Monday. What 792 00:54:16,355 --> 00:54:20,955 Speaker 1: am I doing? Bulletins as the news requires, till the 793 00:54:20,995 --> 00:54:24,315 Speaker 1: next one. If I ever finished this one, I'm Keith Olderman. 794 00:54:24,395 --> 00:54:42,395 Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck. Countdown 795 00:54:42,435 --> 00:54:46,195 Speaker 1: with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For more 796 00:54:46,275 --> 00:54:51,235 Speaker 1: podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 797 00:54:51,275 --> 00:54:53,115 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.