1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: I bet every single person listening to the sound of 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: our voices will relate to this. You ever watch the 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: family that you thought had it all and they were perfect, 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 2: Everything looked great inside the home and then the whole 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: thing splits up. Or do you ever find out that 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: the person who looks like they've got the perfect life 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: suddenly is in need of therapy and suffering from depression? 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Like everything can look right, but it's gotta be constructed 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: in a healthy way from the inside out or it 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: not gonna work. And I'll tell you which professional sports 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: team relates to that comment in just a moment. But 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: that comes after I say hello and good evening to 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: my partner E from Salam. 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: Hello, sir, Hello, my good man. How we doing. I'm great? 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: How are you? What's happening this weekend? 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: I've just basketball just got a more here was zoomed 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: up from Seal Beach. 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: Didn't you tell me that it was like over like like. 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: Like theoretically, theoretically erratically but in reality. 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: Found yourself some more games. Didn't you ever. 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 3: Said so this week my brand new like two month 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: old eleven year old, right, my two month eleven year old. 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say, dude, if you have a 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: two month no, no, no, no, about to take a damn 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 2: turn if we. 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: Have if I have a two month older, dain't mine? 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: Okay? 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 3: It was uh he was playing with the twelve you team. 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Okay, well. 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: Technically it was the twelve you team, but he was 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: playing against thirteen and fourteen you players. 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: How does that work? Were any of them named Danny Almonte? Like? 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: How does this right? How does this work? 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: This is this state that we are in. Lot of coaches, 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: a lot of parents want their talented kid to really 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: stick out and really shine, so they allow them to 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: play down one or two years because it their first 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: of all that their body control. They're more explosive. As 40 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: you know as a father, eleven to twelve is physically 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: is ginormous. 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: Now every year it's like a huge milestone. Now that 44 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: tapers off as you get an adult and it just 45 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: becomes who you are. But as a kid going through 46 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: growth and pre puberty and then puberty, your body changes 47 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: exponentiously and and it is as fast as quick. And 48 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: so when you I have my brand new essentially a 49 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: ten year old playing against a guy with a mustache 50 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: and his dad is on the sidelines like yeah, yeah, 51 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: I'm like he's touching the rim, right, he's not twelve, Like, 52 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: he's not twelve. 53 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 2: No, I like I always I've always used this comparison, 54 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: and it sucks that we get older and so the 55 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: comparison doesn't work as well because increasingly the people listening 56 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: to us don't understand the reference. 57 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: But it's very much Billy Madison. 58 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: Yes, this is an old Adam Sandler movie where basically 59 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 2: an adult has to go back and be in kindergarten 60 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 2: and he's playing dodgeball on the playground with little kids, 61 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 2: like right, and he's like crushing them with the ball 62 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: and being like yeah, and it's like right, dude, you're 63 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: you're three times the size of that person. And it's 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: very funny when it's a slapstick comedy movie. Less so 65 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: when it's club basketball on an August weekend. 66 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's disheartening. But this is the lens 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: scape of youth basketball as we speak. They are fifteen. 68 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: This is a real thing. They are fifteen year old 69 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: eighth graders. Eight, they're fourteen year old eighth graders YEP, 70 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: which blows my mind. I'm like, why are you in 71 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: the eighth grade at fifteen? 72 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: Because people are overly competitive. 73 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: You can have a learner's permit, you need to tell 74 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: me in junior high school. You can drive to school. 75 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: You can have a job. I mean, you can go 76 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: to work. 77 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: We might be a few years away from them all 78 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: hitting the bar after class. 79 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just weird to see that. And I 80 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: try not to use myself as a comparison because I 81 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: believe I'm the outlier in terms of how I approached sports, 82 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 3: which was I didn't until ninth grade, and it worked 83 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: out okay for me. I still did eighty six Division 84 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: one offers for football and basketball as a four year 85 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 3: player of either sports and a one year starter in basketball, 86 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: And so I look at it differently. I see these 87 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: kids repeating fifth grade, repeating eighth grade. Sometimes you got 88 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: double holebacks, and they're like, no, no, we'll reclassify him 89 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: when he's a junior, and then it will put him 90 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: up in his rifle. 91 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm like that. 92 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: Just imagine you're sixteen going into high school. Just imagine 93 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: being a sixteen year old freshman in high school and 94 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: that has you graduate at twenty you're a nineteen year 95 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: old junior, right, like, this is what we're talking about. 96 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: And to me, I think it's just you know, look, 97 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: everybody make it to the league, but now the benchmark 98 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 3: is not the league anymore because you can get you 99 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 3: can make more money in high school and in college 100 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: in athletics than you ever do in the league. Yep, 101 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: Like most of these nil kids aren't going to make 102 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: a bunch of money playing professional basketball and football. It's 103 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: just and I don't knock that. If you can change 104 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: your socio economic background in college and in high school. 105 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: Please do it. 106 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: Do it, absolutely, please do it change the course of 107 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: your family's financial his future and so, but don't take 108 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: it out on little kid Like I got a real 109 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 3: eleven year old going like I have a he's young, right, 110 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: he's in the sixth grade. He just turned eleven two 111 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: months ago. 112 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yeah, I mean you and I we like 113 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: our youngest are I mean, yours is a little bit 114 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: younger than mine. Mine will be starting sixth grade on Thursday. 115 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: He turned eleven, uh late in the spring, and so 116 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: I know exactly a what you speak. 117 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: So it's just it's weird and it's disheartening. Watching all 118 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: these parents live vicariously through their children. I just I 119 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: refuse to do it. I'm involved in my son's basketball 120 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: journey because he wants to play basketball, not because he 121 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: has to play basketball. I have a six to one 122 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: fourteen year old in high school, at his rightful age fourteen, 123 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: starting his freshman year in high school, and he can 124 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: care less about every we want to freshman orientation last 125 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: week and every single person was like, hey, are you 126 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: are you on the basketball Are you playing on the 127 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: basketball team because he's a foot taller than everyone in 128 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: his class already, like all of the fresh or the 129 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: dad's the parents. And I said, no, no, no, he's 130 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: you know, he's an engineer. He wants to design roller 131 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: coasters and rides and all of that. And I said, look, 132 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: I said, Rashid, you got to get used to it, man, 133 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: because people are going to be asking you that all day. 134 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: Every day. The coaches will see you walking in the 135 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: hall and be like, hey, let me talk to you 136 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: for a second. So just get used to it. Yep, 137 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: you know. So, hey, look it's all good. It's just 138 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: disheartening to see the levels that some of these programs 139 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: and some of these parents will go to for their 140 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: kid to feel special. 141 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. 142 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: I mean the hope is I think for most of 143 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: these parents is that someday their child will play offense 144 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bengals. 145 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: That's the best transition I could do. So pretty good. No, 146 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: let's get it word out. 147 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we're working on the fly here in the 148 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. Mark Willard eat from Salam But yeah, 149 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: so my man, I had I had my first fantasy 150 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: draft yesterday. Yeah, have my first fantasy already. Yeah, already. 151 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: Because it's a groupa well that I didn't get to go. 152 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: But the group likes to get together in person, and 153 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: if you're going to be in person, you kind of 154 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: got to do it before school starts because then all 155 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: the dads are like, sorry, I can't go anymore. And 156 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 2: so we always tend to do it a little bit early. 157 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: And yeah, you get some bumps and bruises and lose 158 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: a player here and there before the year even starts. 159 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: But you know, life goes on, so whatever. But anyway, 160 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: point is is it's what's called a super flex league. 161 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: Do you know what that is? 162 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: No super flex, which means it's the rosters are bigger, 163 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: and you play not one quarterback. You played two quarterbacks, 164 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: two quarterbacks, three receivers, two running backs, and two flex 165 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: It's a lot going on. 166 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: It's a lot going on. 167 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: But in other words, what happens the first round is 168 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 2: largely made up of qbs. There's a lot, like you know, 169 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: that's what goes off the board first, Okay, And so 170 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: I ended up with the fourth pick, and with the 171 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: fourth pick in the draft, your boy selects Joe Burrow, 172 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: quarterback Cincinnata Bengals, and I have a feeling that I'm 173 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: going to be laughing at these suckers all year long, 174 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: because what the Bengals have is absolutely the perfect life 175 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: hack for fantasy football, which is incredible talent on the 176 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: offensive end, and the need to score forty eight points 177 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: every Sunday. Because now the rumors are coming up all 178 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: around this weekend that Trey Hendricks in their top pass 179 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: rusher who remains unsigned and holding out. 180 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: There are now trade talks with multiple teams underway. 181 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: You and I have talked about this already, and this 182 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: is kind of why I called the Bengals that family 183 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: that looks wonderful from the outside, but if you went 184 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: inside the house, you're like, oh, this is actually not 185 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: constructed that well. And that's kind of how I feel 186 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: about the Bengals. Everybody out there knows about Burrow and 187 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: his receivers. Everybody knows about that, but I don't think 188 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 2: that that group is built to actually go win football 189 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 2: games that matter. 190 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: But yay, fantasy that's gonna be fun. 191 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, you're gonna rack up now you you 192 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: you're gonna kill yep, So hold on tight and and 193 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: and let it rip. Seriously good good pick by. You 194 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: surprised he was still there? 195 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: Well, Lamar and Josh and and Jayden Worth you know Hayden. 196 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's what the uh, that's what the 197 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: chalk told them to do. And you know all of 198 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: us are just we're just slaves to that stupid ranking 199 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: sheet that some other human being put on the internet. 200 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what everybody does. 201 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: Well, maybe they don't know the the context of what 202 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: the Bengals are in for. Like were we we have 203 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: a little we have an advantage because. 204 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: We know, I mean, I. 205 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: Don't feel like it's a secret now, Like y'all we're 206 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: all want. 207 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: To pay attention. Most people in fantasy football it did you. 208 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: Know We watched the Bengals do this last year too. 209 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and if it's a regular draft, everybody's 210 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: taken Jamar Chase number one overall for the exact same reason. 211 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: So absolutely, you know. 212 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: So here here's what I'd like to ask you, and 213 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: we can go ahead and loop the Cowboys into this 214 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: as well with with Micah which is maybe an obvious answer, 215 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: but but you tell me, what precisely would you do 216 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: if you were these two teams? What precisely would you 217 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: do if you were one of these two players? 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Micah Parsons and the Cowboys, Jonathan 247 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: Kaminga and the Warriors, Trey Hendrickson and the Bengals, go 248 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: back to last year, Brandon Aiyuk and the forty nine ers. 249 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: They're like they're there are always a few every off season. 250 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: But what's odd to me is it does feel from 251 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: the outside like it's like we know where this is 252 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: all going. It's like not going to be a surprise 253 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: when we arrived there. Michael Parson's not going to be like, oh, 254 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: look he ended up being the eighth highest defensive lineman paid, 255 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: Like that's that's not what we're doing. So I'm sure 256 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: they're intricacies to the contract that maybe they're battling over 257 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: or whatever. But I always sort of feel like there's 258 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: a line, and I think we're right about at it. 259 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: Three weeks from today is the first NFL Sunday of 260 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: the upcoming season, and the Cowboys, in fact, because they 261 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: play in the opener, they play in two and a 262 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: half weeks, and you absolutely, in my opinion, arrive at 263 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: a line where the law of diminishing returns comes to play, 264 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: and that is, either the player that you finally signed 265 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: is now not fully physically ready in time to play, 266 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: and therefore you either get a lesser player or a 267 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: player who opens himself up to injury, or even if 268 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: the player is ready to play and doesn't get hurt, 269 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: everybody is just mad at each other and that bleeds 270 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: into the season. And we've absolutely seen examples of all 271 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: of this, and to me, from like we're here, we 272 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: are here, to where I would again I'm sort of 273 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: team Micah on the Cowboy thing, for example, but I 274 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: would sit everybody down and just very quickly inform them, 275 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: you realize this, this is going nowhere. 276 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: Good for any of you starting kind of like today. Yeah, I. 277 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: Like, I like we've been saying all summer, all last summer, 278 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: summer before that as well. Leave it up to Jerry 279 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: Jones to just completely derail the chemistry, the energy and 280 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: training camp. Just make it a spectacle with no good outcome. 281 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: I mean, we know he's gonna get paid, so why 282 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't you just pay him? And so I I mean, look, 283 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: I don't I don't feel bad for him. I don't 284 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: feel sorry for him. You get what you get. As 285 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: at a certain point, he's stubborn. He's got all these 286 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: sound bites talking about the deals done. I shook hands 287 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 3: and back when I bought the Cowboys and who knows 288 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 3: nineteen whatever and ever we did it over a handshake 289 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: and a malt liquor whatever whatever it is. Is goofy yep, 290 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: Because you weren't negotiating with out the principle of the 291 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: other who the owner of the Cowboy. You weren't negotiating 292 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: with the owner's son. You were negotiating with the owner, right, 293 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: Like if you go into a room and Jerry Jones, 294 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: the owner of the old owner of the Cowboys, his 295 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: son was like, yeah, I'll sell it to you for 296 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: that much, and then dad was like, what, No, absolutely not. 297 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: You can't then be like, no, we agreed, that's what 298 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: it's gonna be. Well, he doesn't have the ownership stake, 299 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: he's not the negotiating partner. Michael Parsons isn't negotiating his 300 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: own contract. This isn't a Lamar Jackson situation. He has 301 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: an agent. So you can't go negotiate with a player 302 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 3: without his representative present and then say, oh, the deal 303 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: is done. We're just waiting back when I did deals, 304 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: that's this is not then, man, are you crazy? Yes, 305 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: a wink in a handshake is legally binding. Well, it 306 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: turns out, sir, right, and so just holding on to 307 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: that whole good old boy, this is how we do it, 308 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: and this is how I'm gonna do it. It's just 309 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: gonna cost you more money. 310 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: D You're a completely right, but B this is what 311 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: what I see just keeps happening repeatedly, and I guess 312 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: we shouldn't be surprised because this is professional sports. And oh, 313 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 2: by the way, people in professional sports are unnecessarily competitive. 314 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: It's just the way that it works. And maybe you 315 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 2: could say, well, it's not unnecessary. That's the deal. Everything 316 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: for a lot of these people is a competition all 317 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: the time. Practice is a competition every day. The game 318 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: is obviously a competition. You're competing for free agents in 319 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: the offseason. What happens though, in a situation like this 320 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: is you got teammates to start. Now, now we're competing 321 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: with one another. And this does not come down to 322 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: what I feel it should come down to, which in 323 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: this example, for instance, is the Cowboys being like, would 324 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 2: we like Mi com parsons to play football for us? 325 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: This is why nobody can understand what they're doing, because 326 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: of course the answers, yes, what. 327 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: Are we doing? 328 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: Nobody thinks, no, we don't want my comparsons on the team. 329 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: And I bet Mica doesn't want to be on another team, 330 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 2: or at least it didn't start out that way. I 331 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: don't know where he's at now. So everybody actually has 332 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: the same goal. But instead of going all right, then 333 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: let's find a way to take that common goal and 334 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: further our competitive goal, which is to win football games 335 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: instead trying to win against each other. I need to 336 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: win the deal, and I've watched a ton of GMS 337 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: negotiators do this. I want to win the deal, and 338 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: once you do that, I believe you're screwed. I don't 339 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 2: really think that there's too often where that ends up 340 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: being a good thing, because then there's hurt feelings. It 341 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: goes all the way to the end where deadlines spur action, 342 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: and in the age of social media, we then see 343 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: the deal and the public will run with this side 344 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: one and that only furthers all of the discontent as 345 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: opposed to what should be happening right when the deal's done, 346 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: which is player and team now on same page, let's ride. 347 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: But it doesn't always happen that way. And I and I'm. 348 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: Speaking directly, like, if you want the latest example, a 349 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: UK and the Niners was this year's Micah and the. 350 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys, and it's exactly what happened. 351 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: And everybody is still livid with each other today. They're 352 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: still all livid with each other. And they'll say they're not, 353 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: but they're at minimum livid with. 354 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: The situation and that's where this is heading. 355 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: So you know, as some of the roots against the Cowboys, yay, right, like. 356 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: Keep going, it's. 357 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: So dumb, it's so dumb, right, So I don't know. 358 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: And then Bengals what it would like. Trey Hendrickson has 359 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: been super quiet. What what would you do if you're him? 360 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 3: I mean, being traded would be the best thing for him. 361 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure he wants. I mean, he's been nothing but 362 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: a leader. I think them, I think that the hesitation 363 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 3: for them is they just redid his deal for him 364 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: and this extra year he's on was the year and 365 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: he negotiated for himself I think two years ago. Remember 366 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 3: he wanted more money. They gave him a little bit 367 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: more money. Uh, and this is one of those years 368 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: that he wanted. So he's got it and he led 369 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: the league in sacks last year and they're like, yeah, 370 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: we just did your deal. He's outplayed his deal and 371 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: everyone else is getting paid. So he's like, look, I 372 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: want to get paid. So I mean, go join somewhere else. 373 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: If there's a if there's a taker, you know, go huh. 374 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: If I if I'm the Bengals, that's I'm keeping. 375 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: I mean I keep them just like I keep Steve 376 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: de Seger no matter you know what do you want it? 377 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: And Steve de Sager. 378 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 5: And Steep to say, I'll just I'll just start talking 379 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 5: to say Steve de Sager, thank you and hello again, gentlemen. 380 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: We've got an NFL exhibition going on Fox TV right now. 381 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 5: At Chicago, mid first quarter, seven nothing Bears over the Bills. 382 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 5: Quarterback Josh Allen not playing for Buffalo tonight. 383 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 3: Mike White got the. 384 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 5: Start, went three and out on their first drive. It 385 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 5: was an impressive first drive for the Bears to begin 386 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 5: the game. Seven plays, ninety two yards and in under 387 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 5: four minutes a touchdown to pass from Caleb Williams thirty 388 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 5: six yards alaminees at Kias. In fact, Williams is six 389 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 5: to ten one hundred and six yards passing in the 390 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 5: score already. We still have seven minutes left in the 391 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 5: first quarter. The other game earlier today was at New Orleans. 392 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 5: The Saints got a late touchdown pass and two point 393 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 5: conversion from Spencer Rattler to tie Jacksonville seventeen all no overtime. 394 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 5: In the preseason, the Eagles acquired wide receiver John Metchi 395 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 5: from the Texans. Scottie Scheffler was the golf winner in Maryland. 396 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 5: The PGA's Tour Championship starts Thursday. Sebastian Munos won the 397 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 5: lib Golf event in a playoff over John Rohm. WNBA 398 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 5: wins for Las Vegas and Indiana. Washington won ninety five 399 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 5: eighty six over La. There's a Major League Baseball game 400 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 5: in Williamsport, Pennsylvania tonight. No, not at the little league field. 401 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 5: It's the Mets, leading three to nothing over the Mariners 402 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 5: bottom of the third. They're playing in a minor league 403 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 5: part there and annual visit. Philadelphia already won today eleven nine. 404 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 5: At Washington, the Dodgers beat the Padres again, five to four. 405 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 5: The Dodgers are first in the NL West, two games 406 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 5: over San Diego. They'll play against each other again next weekend, 407 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 5: this time in San Diego. Today, Mookie Betts with a 408 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 5: solo homer in the bottom of the eighth for the 409 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 5: lead for San Francisco beat Tampa Bay seven to one. 410 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 5: The wind of Logan Webb, Colorado six to five over Arizona. 411 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 5: The Rockies have won. 412 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: Three in a row. 413 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 5: They are thirty five and eighty nine on the season. 414 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 5: Angels won in ten innings at the A's eleven to five, 415 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 5: Cincinnati and ten innings beat Milwaukee three to two. There 416 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 5: goes the Brewers fourteen game winning streak. The Brewers are 417 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 5: first place in the NL Central, eight games up on 418 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 5: the Cubs, who won today four to three over Pittsburgh. 419 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 5: Texas a ten to four winner at Toronto. The win 420 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 5: the Nathan Valdi eleven and three. Jose Burrios took the loss. 421 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 5: Toronto is first in the AL East, Boston five games back, 422 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 5: Yankees five and a half behind. Boston was beaten at 423 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 5: home five to three by Miami Yankees an eight to 424 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 5: four winner at Saint Louis, the Cardinals have lost five 425 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 5: in a row. Baltimore won twelve nothing at Houston. Houston's 426 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 5: the first place team in the ALS. They were up 427 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 5: game and a half over the Mariners to start the day. 428 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 5: Atlanta a little too little, too late one It's fifth 429 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 5: in a row, five to four at Eveland, victories for 430 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 5: Minnesota and for Kansas City. Casey beat the White Sox 431 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 5: six to two. The White Sox have lost for in 432 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: a row. They are forty four and eighty on the 433 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 5: season and as far as the NFL preseason, it will 434 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 5: end this Saturday night. We've got a couple of games 435 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 5: on Thursday, we have a few on Friday, including the 436 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 5: Bears at the Chiefs, and then a lot of Saturday games. 437 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 5: By the time we get to the late game this 438 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 5: Saturday Raiders at Cardinals, that will be it for the 439 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 5: NFL preseason. That means we are that much closer to 440 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 5: real NFL football and that comes in September. 441 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: Back to you, let's go, let's go. And by the way, 442 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: dumb idea time, how long are we? 443 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: How far away are we until they turn the preseason 444 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 2: into a reality show. 445 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: So here's what I mean. 446 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: Most good reality shows that have shown the ability to 447 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: last on TV for a long time involve eliminating people, 448 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: survivor The Bachelor. 449 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 5: All right, might be familiar with one of those shows. 450 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: Okay, it's possible. So seeing as so many. 451 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 5: Bachelor we're talking about The Bachelor. 452 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: The Bachelor, So seeing as so many of these coaches 453 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: have little to no interest at all in playing football 454 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: players who are going to play football come September. 455 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: Hi, Sean McVay. More on that in a second. 456 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 2: Why don't we actually get to know some of the 457 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: way Hard Knocks does. Let's get to know some of 458 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: the people trying to make a team, and after each game, 459 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: then let's let's. 460 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: Have cuts. 461 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 3: After each game. 462 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 5: Each game. 463 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm trying. I had to think like a real 464 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 2: entertainer here, Okay. I mean if I had told you 465 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: about TikTok twenty five years ago, what would you have said? 466 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: But my like, dude, what are we doing with this? 467 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: What are we doing with this preseason? Like from an 468 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: entertainment perspective, I have no problem with the idea that 469 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: coaches like we need to evaluate our third string. Great, 470 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: how are you going to entertain the public with that? 471 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: Let's get to know these people, and it doesn't need 472 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: to be immediately after the game. But like, okay, if 473 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: you finished your game two days ago, you come on 474 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: after the game that just finished and now let's see 475 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: your cuts. 476 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: Well that, I mean, that's what Hart not Knox is for, right, 477 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you get to know the guy, the one 478 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: guy who's doing this and. 479 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 5: Well edited, it's packaged. 480 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we already have it. Are you talking about for 481 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: every team? 482 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: I believe I entered this by saying bad idea time. 483 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: But my point is is I would like to find 484 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: a way I would write totally but like, I would 485 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: like to find a way to make some of this watchable. 486 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: Sean McVay is over there holding out the backup quarterback. 487 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: The backup quarterback is now not allowed to. 488 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 5: Play and sitting upstairs himself. 489 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: But not even coaching. He what's the coach right right? 490 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers. 491 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: He's doing it like a G league, right, I mean 492 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: the summer league, and your assistant coach goes to coach 493 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: the summer league team. 494 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: Shannon HiT's not calling the plays. He doesn't call the plays. 495 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: He's letting Clint Kubiak call the plays. 496 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 5: Sean Payton passed that off last night. 497 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: There you go, So you know my rule and content 498 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: from it. I know it's one of yours too. If 499 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: you tell us that you don't care, I'm home do 500 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: the same. 501 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: But they do care, right, But we need to know 502 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: what they ca care about, and what they care about. 503 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: Is no, I'm telling the fans care we do what 504 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: what we did it? You yourself had a self imposed 505 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: countdown to football training camp, to preseason, to all of. 506 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: That, right, But this is in football. Like every time 507 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: we get here and then we're like, oh. 508 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: Right now it's some football in there. 509 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: But but you're so clamoring for anything outside of baseball, 510 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: then preseason is welcome. The Hall of Fame game is welcome. 511 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: Like they won, they won the Raiders, the NFL won 512 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: the summer. When it comes to viewers and watching, you 513 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: know people are rewatching preseason games when they replay on 514 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 3: NFL Network. 515 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: Do you know what the Bears preseason record is coming 516 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: into this game that they're playing the night it's oh 517 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: and one. That tells you right there, how much everybody 518 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: gives a rip about the final score of these four. 519 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: They don't care about it. 520 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 5: You didn't even know they could tie. 521 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm not a wonderful reference, Steve, thank you. 522 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 5: By the way, that is in our benefit, not just 523 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 5: the coaches, that they don't go to overtimes. 524 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 3: When no one wants to see that of course. 525 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: And and by the way, how's it working, how's the 526 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: bubble wrap working? Because every team I know all has 527 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: twenty injured players. 528 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: I know. 529 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 5: Well, I could speak to the game I saw last 530 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: night with the Rams, and as long as they hits 531 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 5: to the. 532 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: Head going flag that wasn't a penalty. 533 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 5: No coach is ever gonna play anybody. 534 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: I get it. I have always wondered this when people go, 535 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: good lord, we couldn't just play and have it count 536 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: right away. We can't do that. And I'm alway, like 537 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: you mean like college. 538 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 5: This is CFL in like week eleven at. 539 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: This point, right, they just okay, it counts go preseason. 540 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: No, just like your first. 541 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: Game count preseason. 542 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: Well, look we're about to go to two instead of three. 543 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: You agree, right, We're gonna go to eighteen games and 544 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: then they'll lop a preseason game off. 545 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you I would. 546 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 5: Prefer the world. That's exactly what they're gonna do. And 547 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 5: they'll have everybody play one international game. 548 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: There you go. 549 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: And I bet where we're heading for preseason because again, 550 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: just keep forwarding this, go another five six years down 551 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: the road, and I would bet that everybody you've heard 552 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: of gets between one and zero preseason series that that's 553 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: gonna be the window either do one or do none. 554 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 5: And you've talked about the NFL has won, and they 555 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 5: have won in so many areas including now Christmas. I 556 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 5: think that's been decided already took honestly. 557 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: And Black Friday. They took Black Friday. 558 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 2: And NBA has got tire tracks on its face on 559 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: December twenty. 560 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: I told you that three years ago. I said, oh, 561 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: Christmas is over. They just lost it. The NBA just 562 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: lost Christmas. 563 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 5: So last night one of the shows was breaking up 564 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 5: the college football talking about expanding the playoff, which is 565 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 5: new already, and to which I responded, the NFL still 566 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 5: play games in December, right, They're still going to be 567 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 5: there in December. 568 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere. 569 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 5: Are you aware of this, college football? Because nobody was 570 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 5: watching your playoff game on TNT opposite an NFL game. 571 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 2: Okay, but how's this sound, Steve? Wednesday Night football? And 572 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: that's what college can do in December. 573 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Own Wednesday. 574 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: Take Wednesday. It take Tuesday, Tuesday, and Wednesday is yours. 575 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: That's right. 576 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: And once we get to winter break, you can start 577 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: playing games at nine in the morning and just play them. 578 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: All day long every Tuesday and Wednesday every week. 579 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 3: Do it Eastern or Pacific Standard time. 580 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: I was thinking Pacific, But do us out here in 581 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: the West with these London games. We're starting to get 582 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: used to that early wake up call, you know what 583 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: I mean. But you got to wake up because you're, like, dude, 584 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: am my guys healthy? You know what I mean it. 585 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: Every fantasy league has that guy who will text you 586 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: at seven am and be like, I don't know my 587 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 2: guy was inactive. 588 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: I was asleep. Well that's a sorry, bud, that's a 589 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: you problem. 590 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 2: I told you this story. My my uh my father 591 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 2: in law lives in Hawaii. Yeah, how about that wake 592 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: up call. 593 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: In the morning. 594 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: You want him to set his alarm for three point 595 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: fifteen to see if Alvin Kamara is active. 596 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 3: You just got to stay up and that probably exactly. Yeah, 597 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: make it a bonfire night on the eaches of Hawaii. 598 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean the man is three years old. 599 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he on fire. 600 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: Anyway, you know that idea college expansion, I'd love to 601 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: let let's talk about that a little bit more, and 602 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: in these Fox Sports Radio studios we'll do that. Coming 603 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: up next with e from Salama Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio. 604 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio radio. These are 605 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio studios. 606 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: And in ten minutes, something fun that I think is 607 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: developing but not a lot of people have thought about yet. 608 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 2: And it has to do with Netflix and big name 609 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: quarterbacks and receivers and it's gonna be fun for us, 610 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: but not fun for everybody. So that's coming up in ten. 611 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 2: Steve was just talking from about that idea of college 612 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: football expansion of the playoff. The Big Ten reportedly pushing 613 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 2: for maybe twenty four or maybe even twenty eight teams 614 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 2: in a college football playoff, up to eight automatic bids 615 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 2: for the Big Ten and for the SEC because they're 616 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 2: the big dogs. 617 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: And as we know, the Big Ten is not the 618 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: Big Ten. 619 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: It's like the Big I don't know, thirty two, whatever 620 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: the hell it is or wherever it's heading. 621 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: First, what's your initial reaction to the idea? Then? 622 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: Why play a college football season? 623 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: Okay, fair question? Just put all the. 624 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: Teams in the college playoff. 625 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: I mean they've got the time. 626 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 3: I would argue, are there twenty two teams worthy of 627 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 3: fighting it out for a national championship? 628 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: You love college basketball? Are there sixty eight? 629 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? You can play games a week? 630 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: I understand, I understand, but but I mean in the NFL, 631 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 2: are there fourteen teams worthy of super Bowl conversations? 632 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: See? The difference is. 633 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: There's no. 634 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: So you have what what are the big five conferences? 635 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: Now? 636 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 3: Good lord? 637 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: Just like you know the Big this and the big 638 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: big big. 639 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 3: That one over there and right, not this one so much, 640 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 3: and it's the big maybe not that one, right, you 641 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 3: say the big and then you put a number in 642 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: there that's not the accurate number, right, that's the kind 643 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: of the Big seventeen whatever of whatever, the big, the 644 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: Big twenty. Yeah, it's becoming more and more about money 645 00:37:53,800 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 3: and not about actual good football. Number one. How many 646 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: of these playoff games that we have with this twelve 647 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 3: team field that were pretty much unwatchable. 648 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean to fine, unwatchable just meaning 649 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 2: that nobody one team was way better than the other. Yeah, 650 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: Like it's like, I don't know, when the Bills play 651 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: the Jags, do you watch? 652 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 3: That's see, that's a different there's different ramifications there. There 653 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 3: is no college no fantasy college football. Is there fantasy 654 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 3: college football? 655 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I mean there is, but yeah, no, 656 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: it's not that you get what I'm saying. 657 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 3: Like, you know, if even if the Bills are playing 658 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: the Jags and you have Josh Allen, okay, you're watching 659 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 3: Josh Allen. 660 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 2: Okay, But I mean again, then the ball from college basketball, 661 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: we let the one seeds play the sixteen seeds and 662 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: we make a thing out of it. 663 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, because college basketball is something that you can play like. 664 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 3: You don't have to live with that that game for 665 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 3: a week, right because that same number one seed is 666 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 3: playing that's fair the day after tomorrow. 667 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: That's fair. 668 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 2: Look can I I mean real quick, I don't care 669 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 2: how many teams it is. 670 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: I just want all of the qualifiers to be automatic. 671 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 2: I am done with at large and dudes with opinions 672 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 2: on who should be going. 673 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 3: So it's like, every conference champion. 674 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: Make it, make it whatever the hell you want. I 675 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: don't care. 676 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 2: If the third place team in the SEC is automatic, great, 677 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: you're the third place team. You're in, just like we 678 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: do wild cards in all of the other legitimate sports. 679 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 3: How many how many conferences are there in Division one? 680 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, more than you think, probably. 681 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 3: So we'll find out that answer. 682 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but just realigned then blown it up already anyway, 683 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 2: right right. 684 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 3: So the whack becomes the PAC twelve or the PAC 685 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 3: eighteen or PAC twenty along with the Mountain West. 686 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean you call them conference three, four, five, and six. 687 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 7: Ten conferences in the FBS ten conferences, okay, great, So 688 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 7: that's ten teams anyone who wins their conference championship automatic bid. 689 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 3: Great, and then you take ten at large. 690 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 2: Oh, let's talk about that phrase. We're not done with 691 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 2: this conversation at large. Next, don't listening to Fox Sports 692 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: Radio Radio. Yeah, moving in to Sunday night just a 693 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 2: little further and we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports 694 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: Radio studios. 695 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: Promise your fun and we'll have it. 696 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: But also not done with that conversation with regard to 697 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 2: college football expansion which is being pitched apparently reportedly by 698 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: some inside. 699 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: The Big Ten, which is the Big one hundred and 700 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: thirteen or whatever the hell it is at this hour. 701 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: Again, Mark Willardy from Salam Fox Sports Radio Studios, and 702 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 2: very thankful that you're with us. When we last left you, 703 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 2: my least favorite phrase in the sports language was brought up. 704 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 2: It's called at large. I'm out, I'm out on at large. 705 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 2: Do you notice the way that other sports have been 706 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: able to define at large? We use words like wild 707 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: card or a play in team or whatever. And I 708 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: would be all in favor of that. In other words, 709 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 2: if the SEC is bigger and badder than the ACC, 710 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: then I don't care if you like. Tell me that 711 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: one of the out large team is the second place 712 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: team in the SEC. Tell me that one of the 713 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 2: out large teams is one of the is the third 714 00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 2: place team in the SEC. Fine, I'm cool with it. Yes, 715 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 2: there's bad luck in sports. We watch for the last 716 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how many years. Whoever wins the NFC 717 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: South is nine and eight, and then they get to 718 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: host a game the next week against somebody who's twelve 719 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 2: and five, and we don't argue. 720 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: We do we think that's. 721 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: Too Oh no, we're annoyed, but we don't argue. We 722 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 2: just we just do it. We do it, and we 723 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 2: might say, hey, they should do this differently. Great, here's 724 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 2: the game, eat it, watch it, make some food, bet 725 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: on it, have fun, on to next week. 726 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: We don't do this whole like, but my team and 727 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: Boise State and you're just, oh god stop, there's no answer. 728 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 1: Everybody's wrong. 729 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 2: I love that everyone walks out of those conversations. 730 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: Thinking that they won the argument. You're all wrong, me too. 731 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 2: Everybody who's ever had an opinion on this college football 732 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 2: team from the Southeast versus this collge football team from 733 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 2: the Northwest that plays two completely different schedules, but one 734 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 2: of them's ten and two and the other one's eleven 735 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 2: and one. 736 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: This one's got history. Vegas is that you're all wrong. 737 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: Those are all flimsy arguments. 738 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 2: That's all I would ask for from I don't care 739 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 2: if it's twelve teams or one hundred and twelve teams. 740 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 2: Define it, go get it, and then play. That's all 741 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: I've ever wanted for college football. 742 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 3: I get it, and I think the top twelve teams 743 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 3: in the country should play for the national championship. Actually, 744 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 3: I think the top eight. I don't think the top twelve. 745 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 3: But we're at twelve, so I don't think it should 746 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 3: be expanded. I don't think anything. I think you have 747 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 3: all year, all season to get yourself in position to 748 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 3: be ranked in the top twelve, to have an opportunity 749 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 3: to win a national championship. You know, you don't want 750 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 3: a bunch of three, four or five lost teams vying 751 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 3: for a national champion shot. Well, except I don't care 752 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 3: what conference you're in. 753 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 2: But the rankings themselves are produced by human beings and 754 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 2: their opinions. 755 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but those records, you know, stand up, like, if 756 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 3: you're undefeated, you're you're not gonna be outside of the 757 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 3: top twelve. 758 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 1: Understood, but again, we're all playing one loss. 759 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 3: You're not going to be outside of the top twelve. 760 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: But we're all playing different schedules. 761 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 2: So somebody in the the you know, the Whack or whatever, 762 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 2: is going to end up at twelve and zero and 763 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 2: go let them run it. 764 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: We deserve a shot. 765 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 3: Let run it. 766 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: That's fine, they get a shot. 767 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they will or maybe somebody who's ten and 768 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 2: two in the Big ten will get a shot. I 769 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 2: don't know, and I can't tell you who's going to 770 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 2: win because it's sports. 771 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 772 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 2: If you're gonna do twelve teams and there are ten conferences, 773 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 2: then all the ten conferences, their champs all get to go. 774 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 2: And whoever the two top conferences are. If we want 775 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 2: to do that SEC Big ten, you both get an 776 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 2: extra squad. 777 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 3: Whoever that mayes the top conference. 778 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 1: Well yeah, then you're still in an opinion phase, right, 779 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: So you know somebody and that, But but I don't care, 780 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 781 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 2: I just wanted to find It's just like I said before, 782 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 2: like if the Bucks go nine to eight and they 783 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 2: host the eleven and five Packers, I'll live because I 784 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,240 Speaker 2: know from the beginning of the season that's what those 785 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 2: teams are chasing. You're chasing an NFC South Crown and 786 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 2: if you win it, you're gonna host a playoff game. 787 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: I know. But that to me. 788 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 3: They're trying to change that. 789 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: Well, and maybe. 790 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 2: They will, but I don't think the NFL will ever 791 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: get to a spot where they're like, we fixed it. 792 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna get to the end of the year, and 793 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 2: then we're gonna huddle and then there will be white 794 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 2: smoke that comes out of the building and will come 795 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 2: out and tell you who's in the playoffs. They'll never 796 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 2: do it, do it because it is a flimsy political 797 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 2: way of doing business. And I just I hate it. 798 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 2: I've always hated it. I don't even understand how that's sports. Like, 799 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 2: you don't get to do everything and then have people 800 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 2: just decide if you won, unless you're a gymnast in 801 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 2: the Olympics. 802 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 3: That's a good reference. 803 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's like I and I've never understood college 804 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 2: football's fear of moving toward this. 805 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: They've made bajillions of dollars for years, and so. 806 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 2: They want everybody to, you know, kind of get there, 807 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 2: be seen and heard and all of that, and then 808 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: they'll start worrying about things like but the calendar and 809 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 2: the travel and It's like, I'm sorry, the calendar and 810 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 2: the travel Stanford and calor in the acc What exactly 811 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 2: are you telling me about travel that you're worried about. 812 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: Play some games. 813 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 2: Everything on the field always, that's how you decide who moves. 814 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 1: Forward on the field. 815 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 2: I think it would make the sport even more popular 816 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: than it already is. 817 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 3: It's funny how we're already trying to change the already 818 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 3: change that we just had, right like, we just had 819 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 3: the change. This last year was the first year of 820 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 3: twelve teams. Correct, Now we're already trying to change it. 821 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, why because people didn't love it? 822 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 2: And I actually didn't. I mean I didn't support that change. 823 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: I didn't get change either. I like more teams. 824 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 3: I didn't think twelve was the one. Yeah, I don't 825 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 3: think that was the number. 826 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 2: Again, as I said, you could sell me on eight 827 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,720 Speaker 2: twelve four million. 828 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't care the number. 829 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 2: Please just make everybody have an assignment, and whoever achieves it, 830 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 2: that's who gets to go play. 831 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: That's who gets to go play. 832 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 3: Really, we just cut no more conferences. You just cut 833 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 3: them into regions west fully in favor, right, west, east Central. 834 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 2: I mean I said this a bunch of years ago. Bike, 835 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 2: you have about the correct number of teams about. 836 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: You might need to expand it a little bit, maybe 837 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: to eight or something. 838 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 2: But there was a time where if you had just 839 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 2: created six super conferences maybe at times, I mean, depending 840 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 2: on how big you want to make them, you can 841 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 2: make four. 842 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 3: Like the top four teams in each uh well each conference, 843 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 3: which would be the three. 844 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 2: Or what if each conference was split into two divisions 845 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 2: and they were very large, and therefore you have four 846 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 2: conferences with two divisions each. That's eight divisions and everybody 847 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 2: who wins a division, you. 848 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 1: Go, that's it. 849 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 2: And I don't care if your wreck is uh, you know, 850 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 2: nine and three and somebody else who's in second place 851 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,439 Speaker 2: in the other division is eleven and one. 852 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's the way it went. Boo hoo. 853 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 2: Win your division and then you get to play. 854 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 1: I get it, man, I see what I would do. 855 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 3: No one's listening to us to solve this, so. 856 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 1: Well, I hope some people are listening to the radio. 857 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: I know not. 858 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 3: They're not listening to us to solve this like that. 859 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 3: The powers that be aren't listening's going well, those guys 860 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 3: have a great idea. 861 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 1: I think they would if you could make it financially work. 862 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 3: Oh, they could make anything. More games. They can make 863 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 3: that work and a heartbeat exactly. 864 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 2: More games that more people are interested in because you 865 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 2: know the dirty secret. 866 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 3: But when will they be played? 867 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 2: My man, you have the entire month of December just 868 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 2: sitting there with people playing the Ohak Bowl with eight 869 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 2: people there. 870 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 3: That's true. 871 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 1: What do we doing? Bowl season? What are we doing? 872 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,280 Speaker 2: And then somehow they'll come back around the other side 873 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 2: and be like, what do you want us to play 874 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 2: it on February? No, I'd like you to not take 875 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 2: a five week break and then come back and play football. 876 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: Again, Like what are you doing? 877 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because and you're pitching to us that, it's like, well, 878 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 2: they're college students. 879 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 3: The bulls, the Bowls committee will will have a problem 880 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 3: with that. 881 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: Why turn those into the ball games they can. 882 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 3: Turn We can turn some of those off. There's about 883 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 3: fifteen bowls that don't need to exist. 884 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 2: There's that, and then you could also make about fifteen 885 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 2: other bowls way more enticing. 886 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 3: If they have a seven and fourteen playing in the bowl, 887 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 3: are a six and sixteen? Are a six and seventeen 888 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 3: because you just need six to qualify, right, right, they 889 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 3: should pump that up to eight, at least eight to qualify, 890 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 3: and that will I'm with you, shave some of those 891 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 3: bowls off. 892 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 2: I'm with you, and then they'll go. So how do 893 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 2: we make up the money? And my argument would be. 894 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 3: That that's the whole thing you just outlined right, that 895 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 3: this is a new way to do. 896 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 2: That exactly, and and and the games would matter more 897 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 2: and people would travel to see them more, and your 898 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 2: building would actually be full. 899 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,280 Speaker 3: Now you got something. See how we did that together? 900 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: December sixteenth does not need to be so boring. 901 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 3: You had an idea which was trash, and then I 902 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 3: added to the idea which made it a viable idea 903 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,879 Speaker 3: that that's teamwork. No, that is partnership. 904 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, my trash idea was the whole reality 905 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 2: show for the NFL. 906 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 3: That was trash too. 907 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,760 Speaker 1: No, I believe my college that was trashed. 908 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 3: No, no, no, you needed help, But the college idea 909 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,320 Speaker 3: was trash. You needed help. 910 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 2: I don't mind help. Everybody needs a little help from 911 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: their friends, but I don't. The base idea was not trash. 912 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 3: Garbage, carbon I reject rubbish, as they say across the pond, rubbish. 913 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 2: I reject the label this particular carvage. But anyway, see 914 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 2: we got somewhere. 915 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 3: Wait, you're welcome. Thank you, you welcome America. You welcome Mark. 916 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, never going to happen in our lifetime, 917 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: of course not no, but. 918 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,280 Speaker 3: It makes sense, makes too much sense. That of sense 919 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 3: makes too much sense. 920 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 2: Does anybody else puke in their mouth a little bit 921 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 2: when somebody wins that December sixteenth Bowl and they're all 922 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 2: out there with like some sponsored item in their mouths, 923 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,959 Speaker 2: celebrating at the fifty we won? What did you win? 924 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 2: What did you win? You won the six and six Bowl. 925 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 3: The tire Bowl, the Potato. 926 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: Bowl, And people are actually like handing. 927 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 3: That potatoes safe scissor hand or handle? 928 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 1: Bowl? 929 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, responsible bowl? 930 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: Be responsible? 931 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 3: Right, be responsible? 932 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,720 Speaker 1: Look at that, Look at us. We're's another good idea. 933 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: You're welcome again. 934 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 3: Oh lord? 935 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 2: All right, something I am going to predict right now 936 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,359 Speaker 2: that something very funny is going to happen a week 937 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 2: one of the NFL schedule. One person will not think 938 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 2: that it's funny, and he's a very big star. But 939 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 2: the rest of us, if you've got one funny bone 940 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 2: in your body, you will think it's hilarious and I 941 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,760 Speaker 2: will unveil that coming up next with you from Salama, 942 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 2: Mark Willard, this is Fox Sports Radio. 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It was caught by 957 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 2: microphones by Netflix on the sideline a few years ago 958 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 2: when they did the. 959 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: Doc on wide receivers. 960 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 2: I think Debo and George Kittle and a'man Ross Saint 961 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 2: Brown and maybe Justin Jefferson and Davante Adams. As a 962 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 2: member of the Las Vegas Raiders, was one of those profiled, 963 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 2: and as we got through episodes and got toward the 964 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 2: end of the season, it appeared that DeVante no longer 965 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 2: enjoyed playing football for the Raiders, and it was more 966 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 2: than just an insinuation that there was a very specific 967 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 2: reason why he didn't enjoy playing. 968 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: With the Raiders. Can we hear a little bit of DeVante? Please? 969 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 8: I gotta hear fall life. 970 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 7: I never been hit this many times in my career. 971 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: Every game I. 972 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 2: Get all right, I gotta get the bleep out of 973 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 2: here before I lose my bleep in life. And it 974 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 2: does not take a rocket sciences to figure out that 975 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 2: Davante did not much enjoy playing football with Jimmy Garoppolo. 976 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:52,240 Speaker 3: No, you're absolutely right. Oh my goodness. 977 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 2: Now not lost on the crack staff reporters in Los Angeles, California. 978 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, he was asked, hey, uh, 979 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 2: you signed as a free agent with the Rams. Don't 980 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 2: know if anybody told you backup quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo. 981 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: Here's what Davante said. 982 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 8: I love Jimmy and it was never a personal thing. 983 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 8: And it's been amazing. We got to, you know, catch 984 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 8: up and get on the right page and obviously that 985 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:18,359 Speaker 8: was just. 986 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,280 Speaker 1: A dark moment in all of our lives. 987 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 8: I think all of us were pretty miserable over there, 988 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 8: and we kind of caught up and laughed about it. 989 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,399 Speaker 8: And we've been making place since we've been out here, 990 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 8: so it's been fun. 991 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I've been making plays because actually the defense 992 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 2: is only. 993 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,919 Speaker 1: Sort of watching you as of a couple of weeks ago. 994 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 8: But I bring it up today. 995 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: That's real. That's real. The other part's not. 996 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 2: And I bring it up because I am if I'm 997 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 2: a Rams fan super concerned by the second consecutive Saturday 998 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 2: of silence, which is we're gonna put Matthew Stafford through 999 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 2: a workout and then he'll practice on Monday. 1000 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 1: That's what they said last weekend. He did. Now they're 1001 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: going to put him through another workout again. Yesterday. 1002 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 2: We haven't heard a darn word yet, but we did 1003 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 2: hear one thing, and that was Sean McVay announced that 1004 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo will not be playing anymore in the preseason, 1005 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 2: which tells me that is the week one starting at 1006 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 2: quarterback for the Los Angeles Rams. Davante, would you like 1007 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 2: to review your free agent choice? 1008 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 3: Goodness, gracious, do you want to talk about. Oh man, 1009 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 3: it's so good. 1010 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: The NFL never fails, dude, this poor guy. 1011 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, heymen, good luck with that. Uh huh, good 1012 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 3: luck with that. 1013 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean it changes the outlook of so much in 1014 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 1: the NFC, in the NSC West too. 1015 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 2: Now, I don't know, I don't believe that Matthew is 1016 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 2: going to like miss the year or something. But how 1017 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 2: does this Because I did make this comparison three days ago, 1018 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford's August this year feels eerily similar to Christian 1019 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 2: McCaffrey's August. 1020 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 3: That's a good point. 1021 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 2: Remember all August, he's fine, he'll be ready all August long. 1022 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: They played three games. 1023 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 3: That's a really good point. These things getting ugly. 1024 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: How does that change your view of the NFC. 1025 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, this bowl's well for the Niners, you know, 1026 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 3: but yeah, with the healthy Stafford net Rams team, you know, 1027 00:58:55,720 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 3: it's that's formidable. But if if Jimmy Garoppolo is your guy, 1028 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 3: then I think they have the Rams at nine in 1029 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 3: the power rankings. That drops them out of the top 1030 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 3: ten easily easily. Yeah, I think it's five five teams 1031 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 3: from the NFC in there. And if Matthew Stafford's not 1032 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 3: in there. They're definitely not in the top ten teams 1033 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 3: in football. 1034 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 2: Well, this is what I always like to do, because 1035 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 2: when we're searching for answers, I always do what any 1036 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 2: smart human being does, and that is ask Vegas. Years 1037 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 2: ago we used to ask Jeeves. Now we ask Vegas. 1038 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 2: And the reason I do that is because I believe 1039 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 2: that Vegas knows. 1040 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: I think that they know what the real story here. 1041 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: They know something right. So, like I'm looking at the 1042 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 1: up to the minute. 1043 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl odds and I'll actually say they do reflect 1044 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 2: the public being aware that there's a problem, but they 1045 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 2: do not reflect that Matthew Stafford is going to like 1046 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 2: miss the year or half the year, because it remains there's. 1047 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Three co favorites for the Super Bowl. 1048 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 2: Right now, it's Buffalo, Baltimore in Philadelphia, with Kansas City 1049 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 2: just narrowly right behind. Then there's a little bit of 1050 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 2: a gap, and you find yourself in Detroit, and then 1051 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 2: there's a much larger gap and you find yourself at 1052 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 2: Washington and those forty nine ers. Now two teams have 1053 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 2: kind of fallen down that they were tied with Washington 1054 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 2: and the Niners, and within the last forty eight hours, 1055 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 2: they've fallen behind them. They are the Packers and the Rams, 1056 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 2: but both of their quarterbacks are sort. 1057 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: Of injured here in the preseason. But they didn't fall far. 1058 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 2: You know, the Niners and Commanders are plus nineteen hundred, 1059 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 2: the Packers and Rams are plus two thousand, and the 1060 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 2: Rams are still ahead of the likes of the Vikings 1061 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 2: and Texans and Broncos and Bengals and Bucks. So I 1062 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 2: would argue that like there's concern, but that doesn't I mean, 1063 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 2: if somebody really thought, dude, Matthew Stafford's back is going 1064 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 2: to dog him all year long, dude, you might as 1065 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 2: well line the Rams right up with the with the 1066 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts. That's essentially, in my opinion, who you'd kind 1067 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 2: of turn into. 1068 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly who you turn into. Talented team with 1069 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 3: no signal caller. Mm hm, wow, this is going to 1070 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 3: be interesting. This back issue is a real thing. And 1071 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 3: you got to remember I said it before. He's been 1072 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 3: on the cusp of retirement, that conversation for quite some 1073 01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 3: time now. So it's one of those situations where. 1074 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 2: Did you go through that is is is retirement? Is 1075 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 2: thinking about retirement? Sort of the same as thinking about divorce, 1076 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 2: because I was like, was like. 1077 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: Dude, as soon as you start thinking, yeah, that's a 1078 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 1: good if. 1079 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 2: That work comes up, it's like, y'all are done. You're done. 1080 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 2: If you start talking about it like that means. 1081 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 3: You know, because you've already in your mind gave yourself 1082 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 3: an out right, you've already decided hmmm, I can see 1083 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 3: myself not in this right. And once you start going 1084 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 3: there mentally, you start playing the what if game mentally. Yeah, 1085 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 3: it's hard to pull that thing back. 1086 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 1: Did you go through that at all? 1087 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 3: No, I was. I really woke up and was like, well, 1088 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to do this anymore. 1089 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 1: And then that was it. 1090 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 3: That was it. 1091 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the minute you let it in, then that 1092 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: was it. 1093 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 3: Just the pain. It was a lot of pain. 1094 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, man, August, pain sucked for you. 1095 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 3: It just compounded pain. That was the thing, right, like 1096 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 3: you over thirteen years and so many games of an 1097 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 3: off season of just dragging your it was a lot, man. Yeah, 1098 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 3: it was a lot. And I just didn't want to 1099 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 3: wake up feeling like that again. And the landscape for 1100 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 3: me as a player changed. When I went to Detroit 1101 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 3: in nine that was the first time in my career 1102 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 3: that I didn't have an opportunity to play no matter 1103 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 3: what I did. And so once you took, once you took, 1104 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 3: you gotta remember I'm a seventh round draft pick, and 1105 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 3: once you took my chance to compete away, then I 1106 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 3: was as good as gone. That's why you know we 1107 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 3: make sure Steve de Sager gets his time. 1108 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 5: Good evening. So what you're saying is forty nine ers 1109 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 5: with McCaffrey last year and the Rams comments with Stafford 1110 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 5: this year. What they're really saying is to. 1111 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 9: See here, peer, to see here, pease, while there's a 1112 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 9: raging fire in the background, please return to your homes 1113 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 9: and houses of worship. 1114 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 5: Nothing going on. We have two NFL exhibitions on the 1115 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,439 Speaker 5: Sunday schedule. One is going on right now eight first 1116 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 5: half at Chicago. It's on Fox TV and its dominance 1117 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 5: from the Chicago Bears. For what it's worth, twenty eight 1118 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 5: nothing the lead over the Buffalo Bills, and no, Josh 1119 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 5: Allen is not playing for the Bills tonight. Mike White 1120 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 5: the starting quarterback. He's four of eight passing fifty four yards. 1121 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 5: Starting for the Bears tonight. Caleb Williams played two series 1122 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 5: with six ten, one hundred and seven yards in a touchdown, 1123 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 5: Tyson Bagent's come in and three more tds later, It's 1124 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 5: twenty eight nothing for the home team. At New Orleans, 1125 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 5: the Saints ty Jacksonville seventeen all Spencer Rattler, a late 1126 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 5: touchdown pass and two point conversion. The Saints went three 1127 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 5: for three on field goals, including a fifty one yarder 1128 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 5: made by Blake Groupie. The Eagles acquired wide receiver John 1129 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 5: Metchi from the Texans. The Bengals are listening to trade 1130 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 5: offers for pass rusher Trey Hendrickson. Carolina is signing quarterback 1131 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 5: Bryce Perkins, who was the Spring League MVP this year. 1132 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 5: Panthers quarterback Andy Dalton left Saturday's exhibition with an elbow injury. 1133 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 5: Scottie Scheffler was the golf winner in Maryland by two 1134 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 5: Oaksover Robert McIntyre. Sebastian Munos won the live golf events 1135 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 5: in a playoff over John Rahm, who nonetheless defends his 1136 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 5: season points title. Bryceon Deshamba qualified for the US Ryder 1137 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 5: Cup team, and in Major League Baseball, we do have 1138 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:20,439 Speaker 5: a ballgame in williams Port Pennsylvania tonight. The Mets now 1139 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 5: up seven to one on the Mariners, bottom of the fifth, 1140 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 5: Mark Fientos with a three run homer. Philadelphia already won 1141 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 5: today eleven nine. At Washington, the Dodgers got a solo 1142 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 5: homer bottom of the eighth for Mookie Bets and beat 1143 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 5: the Padres five to four. The lost to Robert Suarez, 1144 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 5: first place in the NLS. The Dodgers alone and first again, 1145 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 5: now two games up on the Padres. These two will 1146 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 5: play each other again next weekend in San Diego. Milwaukee's 1147 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:50,120 Speaker 5: fourteen game winning streak is over. In Cincinnati in ten innings, 1148 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 5: the Reds beat the Brewers three to two. The Reds 1149 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 5: were a game and a half out of the last 1150 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 5: NL wild card behind the Mets, and again it's looking 1151 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 5: like the Mets will win. Tonight. The Cubs beat Pittsburgh 1152 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 5: four to three. Texas a ten to four winner at Toronto. 1153 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 5: Baltimore won twelve nothing at Houston, and there's one WNBA 1154 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 5: game going on. They've started the third quarter, third quarter, 1155 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 5: and it's Atlanta twenty seven, Golden State twenty seven. The 1156 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 5: Atlanta Dream from three point range two of seventeen, something 1157 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 5: less than a dream. For their offense performance. We already 1158 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 5: had wins for Washington and Phoenix. Las Vegas got thirty 1159 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 5: four points from Asia Wilson. Yes, she scored more than 1160 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 5: any team has scored in another game so far. The 1161 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 5: Aces beat Dallas, which is nine and twenty six. Indiana 1162 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 5: won in overtime at Connecticut, which is six and twenty 1163 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 5: seven and no. Caitlin Clark did not play. She's missed 1164 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 5: over a month with the Groyd injury. Their regular season 1165 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 5: ends September ninth. Their coach said today, well, we hope 1166 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 5: that's our hope that she comes back before the end 1167 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 5: of the season. Standing by and New York star Breanna 1168 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 5: Stewart isn't due to return till late August. She's been 1169 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 5: out with a bone bruce in her knee. Minnesota All 1170 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 5: Star and Afisa Kalla missing at least a couple of 1171 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 5: weeks with a sprained ankle. Angel Ree Chicago still out. 1172 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 5: In the past month, she's missed most of her team's 1173 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 5: games with a bad back. And we go on to 1174 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 5: football season. 1175 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 1: Back to you. Yeah, and I'm watching this WNBA game 1176 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: right now. 1177 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 2: Uh, they'll guard you, Ephraim, They'll guard you. 1178 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 3: Remember how we couldn't good enough of it last year. 1179 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 1180 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's the same sentiment. Does 1181 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 3: she mean like there is not like we were doing 1182 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 3: whole shows, we're opening shows. No, just on just the 1183 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 3: league in general, like just the fanfare. 1184 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 1: In all of it, You know what I mean. 1185 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 5: It's kind of the same point I made an hour 1186 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 5: ago where college football is talking about expanding, not realizing 1187 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,800 Speaker 5: that the NFL exists in December. Yeah, like I said, 1188 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,639 Speaker 5: they expanded their season WNBA and it's not a summer 1189 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 5: sport anymore. 1190 01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,759 Speaker 3: That Yeah, that's you can really get lost in the shuffle. 1191 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely you can, Absolutely you can. And you also need 1192 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 2: to strike while the iron is hot. That said, I 1193 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,799 Speaker 2: might be coming from a little bit of a different 1194 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 2: perspective because I don't have the best global finger on 1195 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 2: the pulse of. 1196 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:21,519 Speaker 1: All of this. 1197 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 2: But this team that Steve is referencing, and Golden State 1198 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 2: is at home tonight from they have never had one 1199 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 2: empty seat in their building all year long, not once, 1200 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 2: not for. 1201 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:34,720 Speaker 1: Any game never. 1202 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 3: Not are people watching? 1203 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,360 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know about television rating. 1204 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 3: That's where the money comes from. Now, I don't come 1205 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:49,599 Speaker 3: from the tickets. I understand that but I like, man, 1206 01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 3: like these games were pulling like you know, three million, 1207 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,719 Speaker 3: two point eight minutes like that, they were really competing. Yep, 1208 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 3: that's what I'm talking about. You know, going to any 1209 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 3: any live sporting event is a is something that it's exciting. 1210 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 3: It's a thing, right like it's you're you're going to 1211 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,879 Speaker 3: an event. It's an event. So I get that, especially 1212 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 3: for fans, but that's not why salaries will increase because 1213 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 3: people are going to the game. 1214 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 2: No, you're right, you're you're You're one hundred percent right 1215 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 2: about that. But I I like, honestly, I can't even 1216 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 2: speak to it. I don't know what the numbers are 1217 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 2: this year versus last year. It does not help that 1218 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 2: all of the stars that Steve just mentioned, and. 1219 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. 1220 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 3: It's our season of you don't get to see your 1221 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,799 Speaker 3: favorite player. So if your favorite player is not playing 1222 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 3: on your team, on the team, do you not watch? 1223 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 3: I know, when Caitlyn Clark Clark's not playing, attendance is down, 1224 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,280 Speaker 3: viewership is down. I may be the same with Andrew Reize, 1225 01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 3: it may be the same with Breonna Stewart. Like all 1226 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 3: of all of the stars, if they're not there Asi 1227 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,640 Speaker 3: is you know, out there still cooking, you know, but 1228 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 3: outside of of her, and and and a few others, Like, 1229 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 3: is this a down year in terms of star power 1230 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 3: for the w NBA? Season's almost over, It is be 1231 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 3: over in two weeks. 1232 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I really don't. I don't know. 1233 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 2: I hear a lot more about the actual basketball this 1234 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 2: year than I did last year. 1235 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,719 Speaker 1: Last year I heard a lot. 1236 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:37,840 Speaker 2: More about the individuals and like the tidal wave of discussion. 1237 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 2: But like again, I can only speak for the market 1238 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 2: in which I live. 1239 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,879 Speaker 1: Like we are, we're. 1240 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,600 Speaker 2: Getting closer and closer to average sports fans who actually 1241 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 2: care about the outcome of the game. 1242 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 3: There's a lot of gambling going on on on WNBA. 1243 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 1: Game, I mean, well, what the hell is there not 1244 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: gambling on? 1245 01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:12,440 Speaker 2: Sure, but it's also working its way into the consciousness 1246 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:13,519 Speaker 2: of the sports fan. 1247 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. In some markets, it's something. 1248 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 3: I just remember us having a weekly sports talk radio show. 1249 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 3: There's less to talk about this year, sure, Sure. 1250 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 2: Well it's becoming it's becoming something that you know, it's 1251 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 2: been talked out and we are more used to it. 1252 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, if. 1253 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 10: In fact that all these stars have been out this 1254 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 10: long means that that's probably a reason for it too. 1255 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. 1256 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 2: And nobody is, you know, elbowing Caitlin in the face 1257 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 2: and throwing her to the ground and all of these 1258 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 2: things because she's not in the game. That's what sparks 1259 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,120 Speaker 2: all the debate. It's what did earlier this year. 1260 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 3: So essentially she's the lynch pin to the I mean 1261 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,679 Speaker 3: to the league here. Is that what we're. 1262 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 2: Saying, you know, at this at a certain level, yes, 1263 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:12,559 Speaker 2: at a certain level. 1264 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, let's hope she comes back for the playoffs. 1265 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 2: We got a few quarterback things to discuss. Who's going 1266 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,559 Speaker 2: to make it all the way through the year without 1267 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,840 Speaker 2: being benched, who's got the most pressure on them? And 1268 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:34,240 Speaker 2: actually coming up next, Ian's gonna hop on here and 1269 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 2: go through a series of quarterbacks and then E from 1270 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,480 Speaker 2: you and I can either buy or sell, like basically, 1271 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,040 Speaker 2: we're in on that QB or we're out. 1272 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,479 Speaker 1: So we'll play around with that a little bit. 1273 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 2: Coming up next, we're in the Fox Sports Radio studios 1274 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:54,840 Speaker 2: with E from Salama, Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio. All 1275 01:13:54,960 --> 01:14:00,840 Speaker 2: in the Fox Sports Radio Studios, Mark Willerty from Salam Football. 1276 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 2: Three weeks from today, full NFL Sunday. A lot of 1277 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,600 Speaker 2: quarterbacks that we're going to be taking a look at 1278 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 2: that have a lot on the line. Are they going 1279 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:10,760 Speaker 2: to get to week two? Are they going to get 1280 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 2: to Week five, ten, fifteen, etc. 1281 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 1: You get it. 1282 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,639 Speaker 2: Our producer Ian Roddy's going to jump in right now 1283 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 2: and take us on a journey through a series of quarterbacks. 1284 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 1: Ephram and Eye are either going to be in or out. 1285 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:31,160 Speaker 2: We will buy or sell this QB as being the 1286 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 2: guy for his respective team. 1287 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Ian take it. 1288 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:38,160 Speaker 10: Away perfectly explained Mark. Let's start with JJ McCarthy and 1289 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 10: then let's start with you, Mark, are you buying or 1290 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 10: selling JJ McCarthy heading into the season. 1291 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm selling I'm selling JJ McCarthy. 1292 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 2: And that might not be fair because I've never even 1293 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 2: seen the man who play football at the NFL level, 1294 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,440 Speaker 2: But I am hearing that the Vikings themselves at practice 1295 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 2: are not terribly impressed by what they're seeing, and being 1296 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 2: that while he's a rookie, he's actually a second year 1297 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 2: guy like I would hope that he could hit the 1298 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 2: ground running. I'm selling Viking stock this year. I'm out 1299 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,360 Speaker 2: on JJ McCarthy. 1300 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,719 Speaker 3: I'm out because he's in a lose lose situation given 1301 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,840 Speaker 3: the record and the team that they had last year 1302 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:22,920 Speaker 3: with a you know of what could have been or 1303 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:30,400 Speaker 3: has been and Sam Darnold, what's the upside right right? Like, 1304 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 3: what's the It's it's only down for him because if 1305 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,800 Speaker 3: they're not going to duplicate the record they had last 1306 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 3: year and the team that they had last year, So 1307 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,880 Speaker 3: for him, I mean, I don't even know what the 1308 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,880 Speaker 3: upside is they you know, struggle in the division. Like, 1309 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,759 Speaker 3: so I'm selling. I'm definitely selling. There's too much pressure 1310 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 3: on him. 1311 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, he's under some of the most pressure, too much 1312 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,680 Speaker 10: pressure any quarterback, not just of the young guys. But 1313 01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 10: next moving on, let's go Drake May. You guys buy 1314 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,559 Speaker 10: selling Drake May into this year. Let's start with you, Ephrom. 1315 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:09,000 Speaker 3: I'm buying Drake May, and I'm buying them because I'm 1316 01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 3: buying Mike Rabral And I think that the stability that 1317 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 3: he's bringing back to the Patriots. He's a player coach, 1318 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 3: but he's also a discipline level, he's a culture changer, 1319 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 3: and so I think this bowls well for him. It 1320 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:35,760 Speaker 3: gives him that stability you need as a young quarterback 1321 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 3: with the head coach. 1322 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:42,719 Speaker 2: I'm completely buying Drake May. I'm all in on. 1323 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,840 Speaker 1: Drake May this year. I think New England could be 1324 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:45,719 Speaker 1: a surprising team. 1325 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,640 Speaker 2: I agree you from with your comments about Brabel, but 1326 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,799 Speaker 2: I also think in sort of what was a quiet 1327 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,840 Speaker 2: rookie campaign, there were some signs that Drake can do 1328 01:16:55,920 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 2: some things. Many more touchdowns than interception all I know, yep, 1329 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 2: sixty seven percent almost completion percentage. He's got legs, he 1330 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 2: can move a little bit. I think he learned some 1331 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 2: things now. It's good coaching. They're starting to put some 1332 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,560 Speaker 2: receivers around him, playmakers. 1333 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,160 Speaker 1: I think Drake May is going to be the guy 1334 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:16,759 Speaker 1: for a while. 1335 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,000 Speaker 10: All Right, A former number one overall pick here in 1336 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,720 Speaker 10: Bryce Young? Mark, are you buying or selling Bryce Young 1337 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 10: this year? 1338 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 2: Oh boy, I'm selling. I'm selling, and it's it's probably unfair. 1339 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,720 Speaker 2: Like classically, this just didn't He did not end up 1340 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 2: in a great spot. And I think that he had 1341 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,360 Speaker 2: some nice moments last year. He got better. He will 1342 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 2: show that. I don't think he'll be a joke or 1343 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 2: a doormat this year at all. But what are we 1344 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,680 Speaker 2: really talking about here? We're talking about whether somebody can 1345 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 2: be the dude and win a lot of football games 1346 01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,920 Speaker 2: and go to the playoffs, and I just don't I 1347 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:53,120 Speaker 2: don't see Bryce. 1348 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,679 Speaker 3: Young as that I'm selling. I think he's too small. 1349 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 3: I thought it was too small call coming out of college. 1350 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 3: And nothing he's done in the league, even his resurgent 1351 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:08,559 Speaker 3: resurgence last year after getting benched, I just don't think 1352 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:13,679 Speaker 3: he's capable of being a sustainable starting quarterback in the NFL. 1353 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 10: All right, moving on, how about Sam Donald first year 1354 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,519 Speaker 10: with the Seahawks, Ephim, Are you buying or selling Sam 1355 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:20,559 Speaker 10: Donald's year this year? 1356 01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm buying. 1357 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm buying Sam because I think Sam understands who he 1358 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 3: can be. I think he's at a place where they're 1359 01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 3: gonna love him. I think being up there with the 1360 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 3: twelfth Man, it's gonna bowl well for him. That defense 1361 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 3: plays extremely well up there. It's very difficult for teams 1362 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 3: to go in there and play. And winning some early 1363 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,920 Speaker 3: games there in Seattle, I think will add to the 1364 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 3: confidence that he got and just hopefully forget about the 1365 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,479 Speaker 3: last the last two games he played, which cost him 1366 01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:57,639 Speaker 3: about one hundred million dollars. But I'm all in on Sam. 1367 01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 3: I'm buying. 1368 01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:03,360 Speaker 2: We finally have disagreement selling Sam Donald's I really am like, 1369 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 2: I think that was such lightning at a bottle last year. 1370 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,000 Speaker 2: I think Kevin O'Connell is such a wonderful coach. I 1371 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,719 Speaker 2: think that there were so many good things perfectly happening 1372 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:19,320 Speaker 2: for Sam Donald, weather, controlled environments and whatnot. I get 1373 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,880 Speaker 2: that he was finally in a good situation and wasn't before. 1374 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,719 Speaker 2: But we've got six years of data on Sam prior 1375 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,760 Speaker 2: to last year, and at no point did he look 1376 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:33,040 Speaker 2: anything like that quarterback. And then, as you just pointed out, 1377 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 2: when he got to the playoffs, he looked like a 1378 01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 2: jet again. He looked like a panther again. And to me, 1379 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 2: the sample size was not enough last year, in those 1380 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:48,559 Speaker 2: first whatever it was, fifteen sixteen games to then think 1381 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 2: that that's going to carry over to a new city, 1382 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,679 Speaker 2: new franchise, new coach. I do not think Sam will 1383 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,280 Speaker 2: play as well as he did last year. 1384 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 10: All right, we got time for one more here. How 1385 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 10: about Michael Pennix? Mark, what do you think buying or 1386 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 10: selling Michael Pennox this year? 1387 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm buying. I'm buying Michael Pennix. 1388 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,120 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know if he needs to be starting 1389 01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,640 Speaker 2: fights at practice, but Pennix is a talented guy, and 1390 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,120 Speaker 2: I think the Falcons. 1391 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,760 Speaker 1: Are on the way up in a winnable. 1392 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 3: Division because of the division they're in, I'm buying. If 1393 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 3: he was in a tougher division, absolutely not, I'm going 1394 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 3: to sail. But as we know, that division is always up, 1395 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:28,200 Speaker 3: So I'm buying. 1396 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 2: Are you buying Dylan Gabriel's explanation of what he said 1397 01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:38,679 Speaker 2: for the Browns over the weekend? That's next, you're listening 1398 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:43,000 Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Radio. Off we go into our final 1399 01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:48,480 Speaker 2: hour broadcast in live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. 1400 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:49,920 Speaker 1: So glad you're with us. 1401 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,160 Speaker 2: And it's always interesting whenever we start a new season 1402 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 2: in any particular sport, there is that learning curve, and 1403 01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,720 Speaker 2: I think as fans, we tend to look at that 1404 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 2: as how quickly can for example, a quarterback read a 1405 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,559 Speaker 2: defense and how quickly can they get used to the 1406 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,360 Speaker 2: speed of the game, and how quickly can they get 1407 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 2: chemistry with new receivers. But particularly for quarterbacks or any 1408 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,080 Speaker 2: player that's going to be in the public eye, how 1409 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:21,920 Speaker 2: quickly can you get used to talking in front of 1410 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 2: a microphone and not saying the thing that your team 1411 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 2: can't have you say? Even if you maybe didn't mean 1412 01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:38,360 Speaker 2: it to come out that way. Woof, Once the cat 1413 01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,599 Speaker 2: is out of the bag, off we go. Especially in 1414 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,960 Speaker 2: today's day and age, social media, et cetera, it can 1415 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:49,400 Speaker 2: be very very tricky. And so take a listen to this, 1416 01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 2: Ephram and everybody listening, and would love to get a 1417 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:58,439 Speaker 2: discussion going with regard to what exactly Dylan Gabriel meant. 1418 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,519 Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel is one of the four hundred and thirty 1419 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 2: three quarterbacks uh huh, vying for the. 1420 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns starting job. 1421 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,880 Speaker 2: He did some good things in the most recent preseason 1422 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 2: game for the Browns, and then during a sideline interview, 1423 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 2: he said the following. 1424 01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 11: You know, there's entertainers and there's competitors, and I totally 1425 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,160 Speaker 11: understand that, and my job is to compete and that's. 1426 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,000 Speaker 5: What I'm focused on doing. 1427 01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:26,839 Speaker 1: Of course, we're doing. 1428 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,880 Speaker 11: This big game, but you know, it's something that I'll 1429 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,439 Speaker 11: get used to and just want to be the best 1430 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,439 Speaker 11: team that I can and create an environment where we 1431 01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 11: can all go do our best work. 1432 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:35,280 Speaker 1: That's all we want to do. 1433 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 2: Okay, very blue collar sound. I want to keep my 1434 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,200 Speaker 2: head down. I don't want to get involved in everything 1435 01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,880 Speaker 2: they are entertainers and then they are competitors. You can 1436 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,600 Speaker 2: all imagine where everybody took that, because it was a 1437 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,600 Speaker 2: week removed from when Shador Sanders showed up at the 1438 01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:58,080 Speaker 2: stadium having never played NFL football before, with his own entrance, music, entourage, etc. 1439 01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,240 Speaker 1: What do you think Dylan Gabriel. 1440 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:09,240 Speaker 3: Meant shots fired? I mean, if you're drafted ahead of 1441 01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 3: someone considerably ahead, and you're discounted by the majority of 1442 01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:22,080 Speaker 3: fans in public, and you get an opportunity to step 1443 01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,760 Speaker 3: out there and play well, then you're going to let 1444 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,000 Speaker 3: them know. Right, this is an ego thing. You have 1445 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:33,559 Speaker 3: to have an ego as a professional athlete. Now you 1446 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 3: don't have to be conceited and there doesn't have to 1447 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,599 Speaker 3: be conceit with it, but you have to believe you're 1448 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,880 Speaker 3: better than pretty much everyone in the world to be 1449 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,559 Speaker 3: a professional athlete athlete. The bottom line is zero point 1450 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,960 Speaker 3: one percent of the world's population can become a professional 1451 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:55,800 Speaker 3: athlete out of the seven point whatever billion people. There 1452 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,639 Speaker 3: is rarefied air in those who get there and those 1453 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,920 Speaker 3: who get drafted to be there. Now, whether you stay 1454 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,240 Speaker 3: or not, your arrogates thinner and thinner. The longer you 1455 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,479 Speaker 3: can hold on to that, and Dylan is just letting 1456 01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:14,400 Speaker 3: everybody know, right, I can play. I played at a 1457 01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 3: high level in college. I'm a third round draft pick. 1458 01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:26,880 Speaker 3: I was drafted before someone else, and I'm not here 1459 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,040 Speaker 3: to entertain. I'm here to be the best player I 1460 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,640 Speaker 3: can be. I'm not even mad at it today. To true, 1461 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:33,200 Speaker 3: I'm not. 1462 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. But if you do agree 1463 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,120 Speaker 1: that it was pointed a should do. 1464 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:43,439 Speaker 3: I think it was? 1465 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,519 Speaker 1: Okay? Now he would like you to believe that it wasn't. 1466 01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,559 Speaker 3: Of course, of course, why no, you don't want that 1467 01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,960 Speaker 3: bulls eye, But you say what you say. 1468 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:56,240 Speaker 2: Here's the clarification after the game with regard to the comments. 1469 01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:00,280 Speaker 11: You know, all you in this room are entertainers and 1470 01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,320 Speaker 11: you have a job to do, and I respect it, right, 1471 01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:04,479 Speaker 11: and I'm. 1472 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,160 Speaker 1: A competitor, so I have a job to do as well. 1473 01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,720 Speaker 11: And I think you know just understanding that that's how 1474 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,680 Speaker 11: I've lived by And I've said that multiple times, so 1475 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,160 Speaker 11: definitely not a new quote, but something that I've definitely 1476 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:16,879 Speaker 11: said before. 1477 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,720 Speaker 2: Kay, So not the first time I've said it. I 1478 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,760 Speaker 2: always say that it's kind of a thing. And if 1479 01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 2: you do want to know who I'm pointing at, I'm 1480 01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:34,920 Speaker 2: talking about all of you, like columnists who are sitting 1481 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,479 Speaker 2: in front of him at a press conference. 1482 01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:39,439 Speaker 1: Sounds to me like you don't. 1483 01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,479 Speaker 3: Buy it, no, no, no, not. And look he's trying 1484 01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,200 Speaker 3: to clean it up, and it's okay, right, you don't 1485 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:49,280 Speaker 3: want that level of scrutiny as a young quarterback trying to, 1486 01:25:50,560 --> 01:26:00,200 Speaker 3: you know, find his way onto an active roster opening week. What, 1487 01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:07,800 Speaker 3: there's a stiff competition there, and you know, the Browns 1488 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:12,679 Speaker 3: are gonna have one more game to make some real decisions. 1489 01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:17,800 Speaker 3: And I'm I'm here for it. I'm here for it. 1490 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:22,479 Speaker 3: I think I think this is what they needed. I 1491 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 3: think the Browns in order to get out of their 1492 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 3: much maligned past of quarterbacks, I think they needed this 1493 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 3: level of a quarterback room with competition outside of Flacco 1494 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:49,800 Speaker 3: and and uh, what's the name the no no no man, 1495 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,519 Speaker 3: the massage guys outside of them. 1496 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,080 Speaker 1: A massage guy. 1497 01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 3: Man, you did it? 1498 01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:57,640 Speaker 1: Not me? 1499 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,879 Speaker 3: Hey, it's Joe for the rest of your life. 1500 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:06,519 Speaker 1: To that. 1501 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,639 Speaker 3: And so you draft two kids at the same position, yep, 1502 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,400 Speaker 3: two round from each other. 1503 01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,519 Speaker 2: I mean that's my initial reaction is, boy, who could 1504 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,320 Speaker 2: have seen this coming? That there would be drama problems 1505 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,320 Speaker 2: in Washington. I mean, my guysh like, this is you. 1506 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,040 Speaker 2: You can't do it this way. You can't get it. 1507 01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,120 Speaker 3: That's why the coaches didn't want to draft your door. 1508 01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,800 Speaker 2: Right, you cannot make your quarterback room. Remember I had 1509 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,960 Speaker 2: said earlier, I was joking around. Here comes a bad idea. 1510 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,680 Speaker 2: What if we turned preseason games into an episode of 1511 01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,720 Speaker 2: Survivor and people get cut at the end of it. 1512 01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,360 Speaker 2: But this is not a joke. This is real. That's 1513 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,599 Speaker 2: what the Browns did with their quarterback room. That's what 1514 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 2: they did. Deshaun Watson, Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco, Dylan Gabriel, 1515 01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:56,960 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. You can label each one, each one, right, 1516 01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,080 Speaker 2: you got you already. Did you have massage guy, you 1517 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 2: got the old guy, you got the kind of like 1518 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,080 Speaker 2: whatever journeyman. 1519 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 1: You've got. 1520 01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:14,120 Speaker 2: Rook one, and then you've got uber, superstar, big name. 1521 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,880 Speaker 1: Here comes the show Rook two. 1522 01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 2: And there's no way to navigate that, no, without all 1523 01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:23,240 Speaker 2: kinds of drama. 1524 01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,280 Speaker 3: And I think, like I said, maybe that's exactly what 1525 01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,200 Speaker 3: they need in Cleveland. Maybe they need a heightened sense 1526 01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:36,040 Speaker 3: and a heightened level of competition. Kenny Pikett is hot 1527 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:41,200 Speaker 3: man out. Obviously well yeah, So you got two rookie 1528 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:48,760 Speaker 3: quarterbacks really competing and vying for to be at least 1529 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:53,240 Speaker 3: the beginning of the season the number two quarterback, the 1530 01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 3: backup quarterback. Now, Dylan Gabriel has the advantage because he's 1531 01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,519 Speaker 3: a third round draft pick. Very few third round draft 1532 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,599 Speaker 3: picks get cut after training camp. But it's some fifth, sixth, 1533 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:13,479 Speaker 3: and seventh the ones who could let go. So all 1534 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:19,599 Speaker 3: of this, you know, injuries, everything matters. Dylan Gabriel he 1535 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,080 Speaker 3: couldn't even be his full best self because of the hamstring. 1536 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,559 Speaker 3: You saw plenty of times in that game where he 1537 01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,280 Speaker 3: could have extended plays with his legs, and he opted 1538 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,680 Speaker 3: not to because the last thing you want to do 1539 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,240 Speaker 3: is re injure that hamstring in a way where you're 1540 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 3: just on the shelf for the rest of training camp, 1541 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:41,360 Speaker 3: training camps over the next week, and so he opted 1542 01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:48,680 Speaker 3: to not extend drives. Are not making a skate the 1543 01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:54,280 Speaker 3: oblique injury right, not serious enough? Maybe should do it 1544 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 3: be ready for next week. And I would do it 1545 01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,080 Speaker 3: like Art Show did me my rookie year. There was 1546 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:07,760 Speaker 3: a starter, Corey Lucci, there was me, seventh round guy 1547 01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:11,719 Speaker 3: vying four starting job. In this case, they'll be vying 1548 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 3: for the backup job. Hey, Dylan, you'll start. Shouldure, you'll 1549 01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,519 Speaker 3: play the second quarter. Guinny you'll play the third, should Doure, 1550 01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,080 Speaker 3: you'll play the fourth. Whoever plays the best is number 1551 01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,479 Speaker 3: two on the next week on the active roster. 1552 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,960 Speaker 2: Why not if I set the over under on players 1553 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,000 Speaker 2: to start a game at quarterback for the Browns this 1554 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,560 Speaker 2: year at two and a half, what would you say. 1555 01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:44,920 Speaker 3: Over yep, easy, over yep easy. 1556 01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,120 Speaker 1: And that's that's losing football. 1557 01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:52,679 Speaker 3: Yes, now, no one was talking about the Browns being 1558 01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,479 Speaker 3: good wow o winning team. 1559 01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,000 Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing is is, like, that's that's what 1560 01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:04,160 Speaker 2: teams do when they know that they would, in the 1561 01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,200 Speaker 2: back of their minds, like to be in the running 1562 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,639 Speaker 2: for an early quarterback selection the follow next year. Exactly, Well, 1563 01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,200 Speaker 2: you just used two draft picks on quarterbacks this year. 1564 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,800 Speaker 3: They just punt it on this year's quarterback class with 1565 01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,599 Speaker 3: the hopes of if it works, it works, If it doesn't, 1566 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,520 Speaker 3: we got we got action action next year. Yeah, absolutely, 1567 01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,240 Speaker 3: And now a third and a fifth round draft pick, 1568 01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:27,200 Speaker 3: they'll eat that all day. 1569 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I get that. I get that. That's not just 1570 01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:31,439 Speaker 1: any fifth round draft pick though. 1571 01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what I mean, like organizationally, you know, 1572 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,040 Speaker 3: if they if the dur moves on, they're still the Browns, right, Like, 1573 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:44,160 Speaker 3: it's not gonna have any no lasting ramification, and it'll 1574 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:49,400 Speaker 3: once he's gone, that'll be someone else's uh situation to 1575 01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:49,840 Speaker 3: do with. 1576 01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,880 Speaker 2: Correct At the same time, normally, when you have a 1577 01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,320 Speaker 2: third and a fifth round draft pick at the quarterback 1578 01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,759 Speaker 2: position and you got whatever little competition's going on or whatever, 1579 01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:05,559 Speaker 2: nobody's really watching, right, nobody's watching. Instead, what we've got 1580 01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:08,920 Speaker 2: is your third round quarterback is being interviewed in the 1581 01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,680 Speaker 2: middle of the game says something that people think is 1582 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,519 Speaker 2: about the fifth round quarterback. Now he's got to address 1583 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,800 Speaker 2: it after the game. These are the things that are 1584 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,559 Speaker 2: happening before season even starts. 1585 01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:19,080 Speaker 1: Circus. 1586 01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, which, by the way, like I could argue 1587 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,200 Speaker 2: and not to take it to a more serious topic 1588 01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:33,080 Speaker 2: like that is apparently apparently why Colin Kaepernick never got 1589 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:33,679 Speaker 2: a job. 1590 01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:34,960 Speaker 1: In the league. 1591 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is correct. 1592 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,120 Speaker 2: Not because no one thought he was one of the 1593 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,799 Speaker 2: most talented sixty quarterbacks in the world. It was because 1594 01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:50,080 Speaker 2: nobody wants their QB room to be a media circus, 1595 01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,360 Speaker 2: and that would have been a bigger media circus than 1596 01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:53,439 Speaker 2: this is I understand. 1597 01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:57,799 Speaker 3: Look, but Kevin Stefanski didn't want this to be immediate circus. 1598 01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,840 Speaker 1: Well, but they've willingly signed up for it. 1599 01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,519 Speaker 3: When the owner calls down and says, Duke, then you 1600 01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:08,400 Speaker 3: do this. Sure you saw the draft room, you saw 1601 01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,479 Speaker 3: the coaches. This wasn't in the plan. They just picked 1602 01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:21,240 Speaker 3: a quarterback. So now they're stuck with this situation that 1603 01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:25,240 Speaker 3: they didn't want, and now they're gonna get the best 1604 01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,559 Speaker 3: out of it. Whoever plays the best is gonna be 1605 01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:32,120 Speaker 3: that guy and gonna get an opportunity to play, and 1606 01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:37,559 Speaker 3: you know, essentially for his life or his career because 1607 01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:41,479 Speaker 3: a backup quarterback will be called upon, multiple will be 1608 01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:50,400 Speaker 3: called upon in Cleveland. So you know, it's it's it's 1609 01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:55,639 Speaker 3: one of those things where, yeah, it's coming, it's coming. 1610 01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,439 Speaker 2: Speaking of rookie quarterbacks, I wonder if you're ready to 1611 01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:05,280 Speaker 2: move one of their timelines up. We'll get to that 1612 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,160 Speaker 2: coming up next with the from Salama Mark Willard. This 1613 01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:13,040 Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio, so we're live in the Fox 1614 01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,160 Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. Is shortly after the show, the podcast 1615 01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,679 Speaker 2: will go up. If you missed any of today's show, 1616 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,479 Speaker 2: well that was silly, so don't do that. 1617 01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:21,880 Speaker 1: Again. 1618 01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,280 Speaker 2: But if you did check it out on the podcast, 1619 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,840 Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. 1620 01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,920 Speaker 2: Be sure to follow and review the podcast rated A five, 1621 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,800 Speaker 2: and then we'll all stay friends again. Just search Fox 1622 01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,439 Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You see today's 1623 01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:41,880 Speaker 2: show posted right after we get off of the air. 1624 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:48,800 Speaker 2: Mark Willard eight from Salam And I think, I think 1625 01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:53,040 Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, and you thought this out with me, 1626 01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:56,360 Speaker 2: and I thought what you had to say was was 1627 01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:03,240 Speaker 2: pretty smart. We're talking out Jackson Dart of the New 1628 01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,240 Speaker 2: York Giants and when he would probably make his first 1629 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:14,160 Speaker 2: start for the team. Russell Wilson is the starter, but 1630 01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:16,599 Speaker 2: you also have to weigh a couple things in here. 1631 01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,920 Speaker 2: Brian Dayball, the head coach is on the hot seat. 1632 01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,360 Speaker 2: So if you're Dayball, like I always think about it 1633 01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,599 Speaker 2: this way, when there's a new quarterback in town, when 1634 01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,040 Speaker 2: you're a head coach, in a way, you're a little 1635 01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,000 Speaker 2: bit incentivized to play him, not overly, because if you 1636 01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,559 Speaker 2: play him a lot and he looks awful, well, now 1637 01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,240 Speaker 2: you've also made a bad draft pick. 1638 01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:39,880 Speaker 1: But if you don't play. 1639 01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,280 Speaker 2: Him at all, and you're playing a veteran QB who 1640 01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,759 Speaker 2: has some cachet and you lose all of your games. 1641 01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,000 Speaker 1: Well, now it's really easy to fire you. 1642 01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:53,600 Speaker 2: But if you play your rookie quarterback, here's the sweet spot. 1643 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,800 Speaker 2: Play your rookie, have him look kind of good, but 1644 01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:02,519 Speaker 2: you lose. Therefore you're gonna get more good draft position. 1645 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:06,600 Speaker 2: And you can kind of explain it away, Well, we 1646 01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:08,000 Speaker 2: got a rookie playing quarterback. 1647 01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:08,680 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do. 1648 01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,280 Speaker 2: We're in a tough division, but boy, doesn't he look good. 1649 01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:15,360 Speaker 2: Let's build together. That's the sweet spot. That's what day 1650 01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:21,759 Speaker 2: Ball wants. You had predicted week ten for Jackson Dart, 1651 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:27,000 Speaker 2: reason being you thought find a soft landing spot, do 1652 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:32,880 Speaker 2: not start him against a really good team, and they 1653 01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:35,479 Speaker 2: got a whole lot of really good team things going 1654 01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:39,960 Speaker 2: on somehow on their schedule in the first half of 1655 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:43,400 Speaker 2: the year. First two games at Washington at Dallas. Let 1656 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,960 Speaker 2: Russell hand those. Then you come home for the Chiefs 1657 01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:50,400 Speaker 2: and the Chargers. Eh, probably let Russell hand handle those. 1658 01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:56,120 Speaker 2: But here's my question, because then they'll go to New 1659 01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,599 Speaker 2: Orleans and then after that it's Philly, Denver, Philly again, 1660 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:04,800 Speaker 2: San Francisco. You had guessed week ten you'd like a 1661 01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:08,280 Speaker 2: home game, but they don't have it Week ten on 1662 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:12,080 Speaker 2: the road at Chicago. Is there any chance we can 1663 01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,760 Speaker 2: move that up to Week five in New Orleans. Yeah, 1664 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,360 Speaker 2: with the possibility that the Giants are zero and four 1665 01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:18,680 Speaker 2: when it. 1666 01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:24,400 Speaker 3: Happens, happens that without a doubt, if Russell can't get 1667 01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:28,879 Speaker 3: a game, he will no longer be a starting quarterback 1668 01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:29,559 Speaker 3: in week four. 1669 01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,160 Speaker 2: And I asked, because Jackson played the other day. It's 1670 01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:32,880 Speaker 2: preseason or whatever. 1671 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:34,920 Speaker 1: But he look good, he looked good, look pretty good. 1672 01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:39,640 Speaker 1: He looked good. And those are four crazy games to 1673 01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:40,519 Speaker 1: start their schedule. 1674 01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. It's tough living right there. 1675 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,360 Speaker 1: Your first three weeks for Russell Wilson as a Giant. 1676 01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,559 Speaker 2: You go to Washington, you go to Dallas, you come 1677 01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,759 Speaker 2: home for Sunday night football against the Chiefs. 1678 01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:56,320 Speaker 3: You know why I'm so high on on Justin Herbert. 1679 01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:00,360 Speaker 3: I'd love to hear because when he got his first start, 1680 01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:03,320 Speaker 3: it was out the blue. 1681 01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:05,639 Speaker 1: That's true. 1682 01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,040 Speaker 3: There didn't have reps with the first team. 1683 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,240 Speaker 1: Torod Taylor got the bad shot, and. 1684 01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:18,040 Speaker 3: You were playing the Kansas City Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes, Tarik Hill, 1685 01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:23,040 Speaker 3: Kelsey the whole nine yards and he went out there 1686 01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:28,679 Speaker 3: and set them on fire. He was really good, and 1687 01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,599 Speaker 3: in that moment, the whole world was like, oh, wait 1688 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:39,720 Speaker 3: a minute, huh, because that ideally, you wouldn't want your 1689 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:46,559 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback to run up against that buzzsaw or any 1690 01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:51,040 Speaker 3: bussaw of that magnitude. You don't want to have them 1691 01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:57,320 Speaker 3: learn like that. And he went out there and he 1692 01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:01,280 Speaker 3: just played ball. And I looked at him and I said, oh, oh, 1693 01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 3: he's got it. I was like, he's got something. 1694 01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:13,519 Speaker 2: I agree, but my gosh, to borrow something that we 1695 01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,200 Speaker 2: largely do in golf more than we do in other sports. 1696 01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:18,840 Speaker 1: Best player who have never won a major? 1697 01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know what I mean? 1698 01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:25,599 Speaker 2: This guy, he is so talented and I think has 1699 01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:30,880 Speaker 2: largely performed pretty well, but it just it doesn't go 1700 01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:36,000 Speaker 2: right in the playoffs and he gets hurt a lot, 1701 01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:44,000 Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, that whole just that thing does 1702 01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,880 Speaker 2: not look like it has clicked to where some of 1703 01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:52,880 Speaker 2: the other qbs that feel like, from a physical standpoint, 1704 01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,599 Speaker 2: they're the same kind of guy, have sort of reached 1705 01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,880 Speaker 2: that spot where a lot of times it feels like 1706 01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,080 Speaker 2: teams can win football games just because because of their presence. 1707 01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:03,519 Speaker 1: Allen and Borough, et cetera. 1708 01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:07,960 Speaker 2: Mahomes like three years ago, people were like, that's where 1709 01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:14,479 Speaker 2: Herbert's head and eh, Chargers play a lot of football. 1710 01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:20,719 Speaker 1: Games that are like nineteen to sixteen. It's odd. 1711 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I'm with you, but I don't know why 1712 01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:29,920 Speaker 2: it hasn't turned into something that feels like it can 1713 01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:37,160 Speaker 2: be a little bit more dominant. Four years ago he 1714 01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,600 Speaker 2: flew from over five thousand yards. 1715 01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:45,759 Speaker 3: But you also have to realize he was hamstrung, no doubt, 1716 01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:53,960 Speaker 3: and so that is when there's ineptness at at the 1717 01:40:54,120 --> 01:41:00,559 Speaker 3: highest level for sure. Then I mean, are we blaming 1718 01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:06,240 Speaker 3: some things you can't overcome? And for me, it looked 1719 01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:10,519 Speaker 3: though that was one of those things. He was Brendan 1720 01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:16,200 Speaker 3: Staley was so bad yep, yep, Like it was. It 1721 01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:19,640 Speaker 3: was to the point where it was it was comical. 1722 01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I also like some of this is 1723 01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:29,000 Speaker 2: the fantasy football ification of the whole thing. 1724 01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,920 Speaker 1: Like last year, Justin was really good. 1725 01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:37,240 Speaker 2: He threw three interceptions all year long. 1726 01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:39,120 Speaker 1: The team was good. 1727 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,760 Speaker 2: Harbaugh's good, but Harball wants to do it a certain way, 1728 01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,559 Speaker 2: and Harbaugh does not want to lean on his quarterback 1729 01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,840 Speaker 2: slinging the ball all over the yard, And so maybe 1730 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:53,080 Speaker 2: that's a good thing for their record, but it somehow 1731 01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:54,800 Speaker 2: lessens the way people are going. 1732 01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:58,360 Speaker 1: To see Justin. I get it, But he didn't even 1733 01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,000 Speaker 1: throw for four thousand yards last year. 1734 01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:03,960 Speaker 3: No, No, and you know he doesn't have to do 1735 01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:07,120 Speaker 3: it all himself. That doesn't take away the talent that 1736 01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:07,599 Speaker 3: he has. 1737 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,360 Speaker 1: No, it's oh, I get it. It's there. So you know. 1738 01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:18,400 Speaker 3: When you're tapped on the shoulder five minutes before game 1739 01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:21,840 Speaker 3: time and say, hey, ugh, I know we you didn't 1740 01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:26,280 Speaker 3: practice with the ones all week, but you're the starting 1741 01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,840 Speaker 3: quarterback against the Kansas City Chiefs defense and you go 1742 01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:36,120 Speaker 3: out and throw for over three hundred yards. You got something. 1743 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:41,840 Speaker 3: Never never looked rattled, never looked shaken, just poise and 1744 01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,040 Speaker 3: look up until this point in his career, he's thrown 1745 01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:48,080 Speaker 3: for more yards than anybody at this point in their career. Yeah, 1746 01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:55,400 Speaker 3: that's a real thing. So you know, I'm I say 1747 01:42:55,520 --> 01:43:02,000 Speaker 3: all of that to say that's not the ideal spot 1748 01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,040 Speaker 3: to have a rookie quarterback come into. 1749 01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:04,920 Speaker 1: No. 1750 01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:08,000 Speaker 3: No, he's revered because he was able to come into 1751 01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:12,280 Speaker 3: that spot and show up and show out right. It 1752 01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,040 Speaker 3: didn't it wasn't too big for him. 1753 01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:16,280 Speaker 2: Maybe you give Russell that game too, and you let 1754 01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,839 Speaker 2: Jackson do Week five in New Orleans. 1755 01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:20,760 Speaker 1: But I'm with you. 1756 01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,800 Speaker 2: I'm impressed because Justin was able to do that, not 1757 01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:26,479 Speaker 2: overly impressed, because there's something that we do that to 1758 01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,120 Speaker 2: every hour. We tap him on the shoulder and we 1759 01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:31,479 Speaker 2: say get in there, whether you're ready or not. 1760 01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,439 Speaker 1: As always ready, start talking, and that's Steve de Seger. 1761 01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always ready, by the way, And Mark brings 1762 01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,479 Speaker 5: up only three interceptions thrown by Herbert last year. He 1763 01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:44,479 Speaker 5: threw five hundred passes last year. We think like the 1764 01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:47,479 Speaker 5: way the first few weeks ago, you know, Harbor's going 1765 01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:49,800 Speaker 5: to run every play for the rest of well, he 1766 01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:53,080 Speaker 5: threw five hundred passes. He went eleven straight games without 1767 01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,560 Speaker 5: throwing a pick. Yeah, last year over three hundred and 1768 01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:56,400 Speaker 5: fifty straight. 1769 01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:57,360 Speaker 3: Pass That's pretty hard to do. 1770 01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,880 Speaker 5: And it also points out to the I don't know, 1771 01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:06,400 Speaker 5: or unfairness in general of assigning wins or losses to 1772 01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:10,040 Speaker 5: the record of the starting quarterback. It's a little different 1773 01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:15,040 Speaker 5: than the starting pitcher in baseball. Because that Charger playoff 1774 01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:18,799 Speaker 5: game at Jacksonville a few short years ago, Justin Herbert 1775 01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:22,639 Speaker 5: has had no turnovers in the game and scored thirty 1776 01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,000 Speaker 5: points in a playoff game. On the road. 1777 01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:25,439 Speaker 1: Yep. 1778 01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:29,839 Speaker 5: And Brandon Staley's defense literally could not get one stop 1779 01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:34,680 Speaker 5: the entire second half. The last five drives in a 1780 01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,200 Speaker 5: row for Jacksonville. They scored on all of them, including 1781 01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:39,599 Speaker 5: a field goal on the final play. 1782 01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:41,040 Speaker 3: Surely I can't blame him. 1783 01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:44,479 Speaker 1: Can I add one thing to the conversation. Though he 1784 01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:46,200 Speaker 1: played in the playoffs this year? 1785 01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and he threw more picks in that game 1786 01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:54,160 Speaker 2: than all year. They weren't all his fault, I remember that, 1787 01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,280 Speaker 2: But he did throw four picks in his playoffs, even 1788 01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:57,759 Speaker 2: if two. 1789 01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,519 Speaker 5: Were clearly his fault. I agree with you. 1790 01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:01,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they lost by three touchdowns. 1791 01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:05,000 Speaker 5: I'm just saying the whole conversation. Sure all depends, and 1792 01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:08,280 Speaker 5: I mean all of it depends on Hey, the Chargers 1793 01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,800 Speaker 5: lost a game at Jacksonville. Well, I'm not sure I 1794 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:14,160 Speaker 5: would play Justin Herbert first for that night. It je 1795 01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:17,960 Speaker 5: probably not. And yet I hear even on this network, 1796 01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:23,040 Speaker 5: lazy sports talk hosts bring that up, not remembering the 1797 01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:23,920 Speaker 5: game at. 1798 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:28,639 Speaker 1: All, Steve which ones, yeah, plural, oh thank you? Yeah? Names. 1799 01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,360 Speaker 3: No, not everybody watches all the games. 1800 01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:34,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's leave it that. Let's leave it at that. 1801 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:38,320 Speaker 5: Not everybody watches all the games because it doesn't fit narratives. Okay, 1802 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,840 Speaker 5: we've got NFL exhibition play on Fox TV right now. 1803 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,880 Speaker 5: At Chicago, it's Bears thirty one nothing over the Bills, 1804 01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,679 Speaker 5: and no Josh Allen did not play tonight. It's mid 1805 01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:51,559 Speaker 5: third quarter. Tyson bagent with a touchdown pass off the bench. 1806 01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:56,120 Speaker 5: Caleb Williams led a great opening drive for Chicago, seven plays, 1807 01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:58,639 Speaker 5: ninety two yards and an under four minutes. They were 1808 01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:01,960 Speaker 5: on the board on him his thirty six yard touchdown pass. 1809 01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:04,679 Speaker 5: In fact, in the first half tonight, when the Bears 1810 01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,360 Speaker 5: led twenty eight nothing at the break, it was twenty 1811 01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:11,880 Speaker 5: first downs to three advantage for Chicago. At New Orleans today, 1812 01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:16,360 Speaker 5: a tie, Saints seventeen, Jaguars seventeen. Spencer Rattler of the 1813 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,360 Speaker 5: Saints a late touchdown pass and two point conversion. Trevor 1814 01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:22,400 Speaker 5: Lawrence of the Jags one td pass, one fumble. The 1815 01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:26,920 Speaker 5: Eagles acquired wide receiver John Matchi from the Texans WNBA 1816 01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:30,360 Speaker 5: Everything's final. Atlanta has won at Golden State seventy nine 1817 01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:34,280 Speaker 5: sixty three earlier wins for Washington and Phoenix. Las Vegas 1818 01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,760 Speaker 5: got thirty four points from Asia Wilson in a win 1819 01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:40,679 Speaker 5: against Dallas. Indiana won in overtime at Connecticut to Major 1820 01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:44,080 Speaker 5: League Baseball. Seattle's Cal Rawley Is hit his forty seventh 1821 01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:46,519 Speaker 5: home run of the season. The Mets lead over the 1822 01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,840 Speaker 5: Mariners is seven to three in the bottom of the 1823 01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:52,479 Speaker 5: eighth in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. The Mariners are going to start 1824 01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:56,000 Speaker 5: a series in Philadelphia, PA on Monday night. The Phillies 1825 01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:59,439 Speaker 5: did win today eleven to nine at Washington. The Dodgers 1826 01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,320 Speaker 5: first in the West two games over the Padres, edging 1827 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,240 Speaker 5: San Diego five to four. This afternoon. Munki bets ait 1828 01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:08,040 Speaker 5: a solo homer in the bottom of the eighth. Cincinnati 1829 01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:11,120 Speaker 5: in ten innings edge Milwaukee three to two. The Brewers' 1830 01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:13,960 Speaker 5: fourteen game winning streak is over because the Red scored 1831 01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:15,760 Speaker 5: one and the ninth to tie and one in the 1832 01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,320 Speaker 5: tenth to win. The Cubs with a run bottom of 1833 01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:21,120 Speaker 5: the eighth beat Pittsburgh four to three. Baltimore was a 1834 01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:25,280 Speaker 5: twelve nothing winner at Houston. And yes, there was golf today. 1835 01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,479 Speaker 5: We are nearing the end of the golf season for 1836 01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:32,879 Speaker 5: both the PGA and Live Golf. Scottie Scheffler was today's 1837 01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,280 Speaker 5: golf winner in Maryland by two strokes over Robert McIntyre. 1838 01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:38,360 Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw the clip, but when 1839 01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:41,560 Speaker 5: I noticed this on the news last night, Robert McIntyre 1840 01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:44,960 Speaker 5: hits a putt and immediately shushes the crowd that I 1841 01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:49,800 Speaker 5: guess had been on him near the green. I immediately thought, oh, oh, 1842 01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,320 Speaker 5: this is not the final round, dude, you should not 1843 01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:58,000 Speaker 5: be doing that. And with Scottie Scheffler chasing him, McIntyre 1844 01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:02,360 Speaker 5: shoots a final round seventy three and Scheffler, at one 1845 01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:04,920 Speaker 5: point in the span of five holes, erased a four 1846 01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,720 Speaker 5: shot deficit. Scheffler gets his fifth Tour title this year. 1847 01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,880 Speaker 5: Scheffler now leads those thirty players who advanced to the 1848 01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,439 Speaker 5: finale in Atlanta next week, where the first place check 1849 01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:19,479 Speaker 5: will be ten million dollars. 1850 01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:19,960 Speaker 1: Come on. 1851 01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:24,920 Speaker 5: The top thirty for next weekend was finalized today. We 1852 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:29,040 Speaker 5: thought Ricky Fowler was going. He had himself safely inside 1853 01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:31,479 Speaker 5: the top thirty at one point, but couldn't close it 1854 01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:35,519 Speaker 5: out last eight holes today he was three over par. 1855 01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:38,439 Speaker 5: Michael Kim thought he had a chance to go in 1856 01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:41,400 Speaker 5: the top thirty. He was projected at number thirty in 1857 01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,960 Speaker 5: fact as he played the final hole today. But it 1858 01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:49,160 Speaker 5: turns out. Victor Hovlin, who was his playing partner, made 1859 01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,840 Speaker 5: a birdie putt on eighteen which moved him to a 1860 01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:54,080 Speaker 5: tie with Kim on the leader board, and that took 1861 01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:57,800 Speaker 5: away just enough FedEx cup points knocks Kim down to 1862 01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:01,920 Speaker 5: number thirty one. Congratulate the way to go. But it 1863 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,639 Speaker 5: is a playoff event. So it's the full twenty million 1864 01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,160 Speaker 5: dollar perse that they doled out for the weekend, which 1865 01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:10,200 Speaker 5: is the equal to any live golf perse. But Scottie 1866 01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:14,120 Speaker 5: Scheffler gets another three point six million dollars for taking 1867 01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:18,240 Speaker 5: this McIntyre about two point one million dollars. The PGA's 1868 01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:22,679 Speaker 5: Tour Championship starts Thursday, Live Golf. The season has ended. 1869 01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:26,360 Speaker 5: As far as individual stuff, we've got next weekend's team 1870 01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:31,240 Speaker 5: Championship in Michigan. Sebastian Munyos won the live golf event 1871 01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:35,000 Speaker 5: today in a playoff over John ram Rom shot an 1872 01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:38,880 Speaker 5: eleven under sixty to tie it. This is Munyos, though, 1873 01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:43,000 Speaker 5: who shot a first round fifty nine in Indianapolis this weekend, 1874 01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:46,360 Speaker 5: a fifty nine despite a double bogie in the round. 1875 01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:49,840 Speaker 1: Oh the hell kind of a course where they playing that? 1876 01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:55,040 Speaker 1: What are we doing on the Live Tour. 1877 01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:56,760 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say, but I thought I saw on 1878 01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,280 Speaker 5: fifteen John rams Putt went through a windmill. 1879 01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,559 Speaker 1: I'm just then he wins a prize. 1880 01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,600 Speaker 2: By the way, Mooney gets a spider ring just like 1881 01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:06,479 Speaker 2: everybody else. 1882 01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,519 Speaker 5: Munyos gets the four million dollar first place prize. Yeah, 1883 01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,280 Speaker 5: and if you make that punt on the eighteenth holl 1884 01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:14,439 Speaker 5: your ball you don't get it back. It goes straight 1885 01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:15,280 Speaker 5: into the clubhouse. 1886 01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:15,840 Speaker 1: Oh god. 1887 01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:19,200 Speaker 5: Meanwhile, Munos also banks more money because he was part 1888 01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:22,000 Speaker 5: of the team champions for the weekend. So that's another 1889 01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:26,160 Speaker 5: chi ching seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus. But 1890 01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:30,519 Speaker 5: you want bonuses. John Rahm defends his season points title 1891 01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,720 Speaker 5: despite not winning a tournament this year. He lost in 1892 01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:36,240 Speaker 5: a playoff last week, he lost in a playoff today, 1893 01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,439 Speaker 5: but he was very good overall. So he gets too 1894 01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,719 Speaker 5: and a quarter million for his three days of golf 1895 01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:45,160 Speaker 5: this weekend. By finishing with the most points for the season, 1896 01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,040 Speaker 5: he wins eighteen million dollars. 1897 01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:55,120 Speaker 3: Wow eight Oh my goodness. 1898 01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:57,519 Speaker 2: So the FedEx Cup winners got to go through this 1899 01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:01,919 Speaker 2: whole thing, I'm bob that goes multi weeks and somehow 1900 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,719 Speaker 2: at the end of it, you you get ten million, 1901 01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:08,080 Speaker 2: which is a lot of money. Sure, John Rum for 1902 01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:13,760 Speaker 2: the whole season never wins, and for his efforts he 1903 01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:15,120 Speaker 2: gets almost double. 1904 01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:18,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was just very good all the time. Eighteen 1905 01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,479 Speaker 5: million dollars. Oh my god, for playing a series of 1906 01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:25,080 Speaker 5: live golf tournaments, so none of which are four rounds. 1907 01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:28,440 Speaker 1: So worthy, Saudi Arabia ladies and gentlemen. 1908 01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:29,240 Speaker 3: So worthy. 1909 01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:31,200 Speaker 5: And there's your golf of day. 1910 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:36,080 Speaker 1: Woo awesome, Steve Hey. Ricky Fowler. 1911 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:41,400 Speaker 2: I love Ricky Fowler, but my god, it's disappointing, right, 1912 01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:43,519 Speaker 2: it just never this. 1913 01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,120 Speaker 5: Was the big name, talk about your uh has never 1914 01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:49,000 Speaker 5: won a playoff type of name some years and golf 1915 01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:50,960 Speaker 5: it was Ricky Fowler was on that list. 1916 01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:54,479 Speaker 2: Ricky Fowler for like for years, Like you could go 1917 01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,600 Speaker 2: as Ricky Fowler for Halloween and people would be like, 1918 01:51:57,680 --> 01:51:58,439 Speaker 2: I know who you are? 1919 01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:02,479 Speaker 1: How many golf first? Do you know? Like how you 1920 01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:06,960 Speaker 1: could be Tiger and Ricky. That's about it. That's about it, 1921 01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:09,720 Speaker 1: and it just it just never hit. 1922 01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:13,640 Speaker 3: It's like Kova, Yeah, that's a good. 1923 01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,040 Speaker 5: Except Rickey Fowler finished second a lot and he wasn't 1924 01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:16,800 Speaker 5: a model. 1925 01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:20,880 Speaker 2: No, no not, I mean I'm sure like that. Plenty 1926 01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:22,920 Speaker 2: of people think Ricky is wonderfully handsome. 1927 01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:26,639 Speaker 5: I don't know, not like her, sure, hair, I mean 1928 01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:29,840 Speaker 5: they not like her, like her, they not like her. 1929 01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:34,240 Speaker 3: You made more money modeling than she? Oh yeah, ever 1930 01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:42,720 Speaker 3: did right? Dennis Brand sponsorships? Bye, I mean one hundredfold, 1931 01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:44,400 Speaker 3: one hundred times more. 1932 01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:45,160 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 1933 01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:47,720 Speaker 3: Hey, well, what are you gonna do? 1934 01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:53,200 Speaker 1: What are you gonna Doha? Man? Amazing? That's awesome. Yeah, 1935 01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:54,200 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 1936 01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:58,439 Speaker 2: And we we are live in the Fox Sports Radio 1937 01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:03,320 Speaker 2: studios and not done working our way through some. 1938 01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:04,480 Speaker 1: Of those quarterbacks. 1939 01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:07,280 Speaker 2: Maybe we ask it in a little bit of a 1940 01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:11,840 Speaker 2: different way coming up next with regard to who is 1941 01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:18,360 Speaker 2: really facing the most pressure, who is facing a potential 1942 01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:22,000 Speaker 2: benching the soonest. We'll get to all of that as 1943 01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,000 Speaker 2: we roll on our way out the door and make 1944 01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:27,000 Speaker 2: room for Plank and Spaniard with me from salam I 1945 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:32,720 Speaker 2: am Mark whether this is Fox Sports Radio? Okay, these 1946 01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:37,920 Speaker 2: right here are the Fox Sports Radio studios, Mark with 1947 01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:45,280 Speaker 2: Aty from Salam. So earlier tonight, Ian took us through 1948 01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,639 Speaker 2: a handful of quarterbacks and we were kind of doing 1949 01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:50,280 Speaker 2: the are you in and are you out? 1950 01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:50,599 Speaker 1: Thing? 1951 01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:55,320 Speaker 2: Are you buying or selling them? As the team's QB 1952 01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:57,920 Speaker 2: for now and into the future and making it through 1953 01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:03,880 Speaker 2: the season, and I actually think we might and not 1954 01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:08,000 Speaker 2: saying this was or wasn't by design. There's probably a 1955 01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:12,320 Speaker 2: couple quarterbacks that weren't even on the list who I 1956 01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:16,040 Speaker 2: think are facing the most pressure. And here's kind of 1957 01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:20,719 Speaker 2: how I define pressure. You arrive at a spot where 1958 01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:28,880 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, we've already paid you, but if you 1959 01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:35,840 Speaker 2: don't do it this year, we have a problem, and 1960 01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,280 Speaker 2: we may not be able to get out of that 1961 01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:43,040 Speaker 2: problem anytime soon. If you're a rookie, if you're on 1962 01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:47,040 Speaker 2: a rookie deal even and you're expected to show out 1963 01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:54,440 Speaker 2: and you don't. Bryce Young and JJ McCarthy, Okay, we'll 1964 01:54:54,440 --> 01:55:00,000 Speaker 2: go do something else. But what about these two from 1965 01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:03,400 Speaker 2: What on earth do you do? If this isn't the 1966 01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,160 Speaker 2: year for Trevor Lawrence? 1967 01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:09,360 Speaker 1: What do you do? Oh? 1968 01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:14,600 Speaker 3: It's time. It's been far too long. If Trevor Lawrence 1969 01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:20,800 Speaker 3: cannot summon up any. 1970 01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:21,160 Speaker 1: Of that. 1971 01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:29,640 Speaker 3: Juju that the world thought he had or was going 1972 01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:32,760 Speaker 3: to be able to possess, then you have to move on. 1973 01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:42,600 Speaker 3: You've changed the program, you've changed everything coaching. You know, 1974 01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:46,920 Speaker 3: the Urban Meyer thing wasn't fair, but you've fixed that, 1975 01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:56,520 Speaker 3: and he's consistently underperforming. So at a certain point you 1976 01:55:56,640 --> 01:56:03,800 Speaker 3: have to figure out if the Jacksonville Jaguars can't compete 1977 01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:10,040 Speaker 3: in the division, then you have to ask yourself, is 1978 01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:13,760 Speaker 3: this the year we go get another quarterback? Because if 1979 01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:19,040 Speaker 3: they start off and they're you know, saying oh and three, 1980 01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:28,879 Speaker 3: then you're looking at the quarterback class next year saying, okay, 1981 01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:37,560 Speaker 3: who fits. Now it was a mistake and it happens. 1982 01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the problem though, is that ooh, that money. Yes, 1983 01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:46,400 Speaker 2: that contract. They did not build a potential out in 1984 01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:53,840 Speaker 2: that brand spanking new deal until twenty twenty nine. Yikes, 1985 01:56:54,160 --> 01:57:00,920 Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty five. So look, you know he's only 1986 01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:03,560 Speaker 2: twenty six years old. It's not like he's been awful 1987 01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:08,880 Speaker 2: his entire career. But you know, his next year with 1988 01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:13,520 Speaker 2: a quarterback rating over ninety five will be his first. 1989 01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:17,680 Speaker 2: He had one year right at ninety five in twenty 1990 01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:20,240 Speaker 2: twenty two. Outside of that, he's never had a year 1991 01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:27,240 Speaker 2: where he's even at ninety so to me, and now 1992 01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:33,760 Speaker 2: you're starting to also, you're putting pieces around him, Brian Thomas. 1993 01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:38,640 Speaker 2: Now you got Travis Hunter, got some things going on there, 1994 01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:43,680 Speaker 2: and it's. 1995 01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:45,760 Speaker 1: Got to go well this year. It's got to go 1996 01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:47,400 Speaker 1: well this year, you know. 1997 01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:52,640 Speaker 2: And then on a flip side, from a statistical standpoint, 1998 01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:57,480 Speaker 2: I think this guy has already sort of proven his 1999 01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:01,640 Speaker 2: worth consistently. The issue with him is health and apparently 2000 01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:05,360 Speaker 2: the issue is also just sort of the mysterious things 2001 01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:06,760 Speaker 2: going on around him. 2002 01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:09,000 Speaker 1: But how are you feeling about Tua right now? 2003 01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:16,760 Speaker 3: It's the healthying. I think Tua showed he can play 2004 01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:20,920 Speaker 3: at a high level, but if he can't stay healthy, 2005 01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,080 Speaker 3: then that doesn't even matter anymore. 2006 01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:25,600 Speaker 1: Sure, And so. 2007 01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:31,800 Speaker 3: You know, they've got the weapons on the outside, they 2008 01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:35,280 Speaker 3: got the running game, they got all of these things, 2009 01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:39,120 Speaker 3: and he's taking them to the playoffs when he's healthy. Now, 2010 01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:44,480 Speaker 3: they're not a cold weather team, right, So going to 2011 01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:49,800 Speaker 3: play in the negative eight degrees, Yeah, it's not gonna 2012 01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:51,600 Speaker 3: bode well for you if you're a team for Miami. 2013 01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:54,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't something feels weird there this year? 2014 01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:55,560 Speaker 3: It does? 2015 01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't feels weird like I I something in my 2016 01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:03,200 Speaker 2: gut is like, dude, they might be awful, like really awful, 2017 01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:05,520 Speaker 2: right Tyreek? 2018 01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:09,760 Speaker 1: Is something's about to burst there? 2019 01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:12,880 Speaker 2: Like are you gonna come back and be awesome or 2020 01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:16,200 Speaker 2: are you gonna turn into Antonio Brown. I can't tell 2021 01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:19,640 Speaker 2: because you're out here like you're arriving at camp and 2022 01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:21,920 Speaker 2: being like, yeah, our lead running back shouldn't be our 2023 01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:23,160 Speaker 2: goal line back anymore. 2024 01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:27,800 Speaker 1: It's like, what it just feels weird. 2025 01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:29,919 Speaker 3: A lot of dysfunction going on, the whole. 2026 01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:31,200 Speaker 1: Thing feels really weird. 2027 01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:35,200 Speaker 2: And to his dead cap number next year is fifty 2028 01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:37,000 Speaker 2: six point four million dollars. 2029 01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:45,280 Speaker 3: Man, So that's bill right, payment to due now. 2030 01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:48,360 Speaker 1: So those are those are my two. 2031 01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:51,680 Speaker 2: Those are my two where it's like something is going 2032 01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:55,480 Speaker 2: to have to be right this year or it's just wrong. 2033 01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:57,760 Speaker 1: Those are those are my two. 2034 01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get you on that. That's a hoof. We've 2035 02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:05,400 Speaker 3: got a lot to watch for. It's gonna be it's 2036 02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:07,720 Speaker 3: gonna be an exciting, exciting time. 2037 02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:08,440 Speaker 1: We are. 2038 02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,160 Speaker 2: We are one week closer, my friend, we are one 2039 02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:13,680 Speaker 2: week closer. Great talking to you tonight is all week. 2040 02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:17,480 Speaker 2: We're doing again next week for it from Salam. I'm 2041 02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:20,080 Speaker 2: Mark Willard. This is Fox Sports Radio.