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Speaker 1: The plan for the Padres rotation after officially signing Michael King,

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Speaker 1: and we have your first ever Padres mail bag. Hi everybody,

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Speaker 1: I am Marty Kaswell. That is Kyle Glazer here on

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Speaker 1: Friar Territory. We are part of the Foul Territory networking boy.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot to get to before we jump

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Speaker 1: into the holidays. Kyle, how are you today doing?

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Speaker 2: All right? Marty? We've seen the Padres get a little

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Speaker 2: busier here toward the end of the year, and as

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Speaker 2: we've discussed, this is around the time AJ Preller and

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Speaker 2: everyone involved really starts to get cooking. You'll remember, of course,

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Speaker 2: the big U Darvis trade after the twenty twenty season

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Speaker 2: right after Christmas, followed by the Blake Snow trade the

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Speaker 2: Joe Musgrove trade. So I'm sure that while most of

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Speaker 2: us will be relaxing over the holidays, inevitably I feel

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Speaker 2: like we're definitely going to get an email or a

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Speaker 2: text or breaking you know, tweet about a big trade

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Speaker 2: going down on December twenty eighth. I've got like at

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Speaker 2: least five to one odds on.

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Speaker 1: That wonderful Okay, just so you know, when we were

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Speaker 1: at Michael King's press or was it last week? On

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Speaker 1: Friday I corndered to J Preller afterwards, I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: can you give us a little bit of a break.

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Speaker 1: You are you going home for the holidays?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Are you going back to New York to go see

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Speaker 1: your family? Can you just can you give us some

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Speaker 1: refused to answer that question. So I completely agree with you.

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Speaker 1: All the media, if you cover the San Diagopogis, if

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Speaker 1: you cover J Preler, make sure that you keep your

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Speaker 1: alerts on, identifications on, bring your laptops, bring your microphones,

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Speaker 1: because I have no doubt there is something cooking. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see that, we'll get there. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, December twenty second. I just feel like there's

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Speaker 2: Definitely not. But we have a lot more to talk

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Speaker 2: about in terms of what's to come. But like you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited. We have our holiday mail bag. We

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Speaker 2: did a mail bag Heath Bell and I back earlier

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Speaker 2: this season. But it's one of those things. With so

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Speaker 2: much happening with the podres, we didn't get a chance

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Speaker 2: this is our Christmas gift to you watchers and listeners,

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Speaker 2: our first holiday mail bag with Marty Caswell. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to go ahead and get us started with our first question,

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Speaker 2: John Gordon, loyal listener, always appreciate John's engaging with us.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe Scheldt was the reason Campusano didn't get

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Speaker 2: that change now that he's gone? Marty, you and I

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Speaker 2: talked a lot about Louise Campasano, the lack of opportunity

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Speaker 2: I've had about this. Where are you on this in

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Campusan. I don't think Mike Schilt

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Speaker 3: How about you, Kyle.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I had this conversation with a few Padres

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Speaker 1: What took the Padres down last year, just the offense

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Speaker 1: Behind the play I'm just thinking the padres d'afing real quick.

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Speaker 2: luck Brewers, Phillies and Yankees won more games, holden field advantage,

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Speaker 2: But you know, just again, you your experience covering this

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Speaker 1: I don't think post there's a little bit of luck involved,

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Speaker 3: So I don't think.

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Speaker 1: That's not the reason why the Brewers were bounced or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a lot to unpack here. So I

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Speaker 2: Absolutely all right. Last and final question this one from

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Speaker 2: There will always be big moves. I think we are

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Speaker 2: with the Phillies. So I think we'll see them within

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Speaker 2: the next two to three weeks. We'll start see some

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Speaker 2: when that happens, we're going to start to see the

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Speaker 2: middle tier for agency really start to pick up.

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Speaker 1: Two quick things, Kyle, before we wrap this Before, before

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Speaker 1: we wrap this this thing up, I'm just I wonder

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna get resolution on you Darvish's future in

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Speaker 1: the coming weeks. By the way, he was there at

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Speaker 1: the at the press conference for for Michael King, and

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Speaker 1: I think Michael made a very funny comp not a

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Speaker 1: funny comment, but he mentioned how Darvish actually sat in

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Speaker 1: on a meeting with his agent and he was really

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Speaker 1: really impressive, right, so I wonder maybe maybe he's getting

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Speaker 1: feet wet for them. For the next step is aj Prellers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, as a special assistant assistant whatever. Go

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Speaker 1: scout Japan tigns some players. But I just wonder if

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Speaker 1: we might get resolutions sooner rather than later on you Darbash.

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Speaker 1: And my next question is on Michael King, Just what

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Speaker 1: do you get about this deal with you know, the

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Speaker 1: opt outs, what he can make, but especially with the

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Speaker 1: idea that there could be a work stoppage a year

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Speaker 1: for now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I mean that's something that affects everyone beyond

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Speaker 2: this Michael King.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: On the one hand, every team, you know, players aren't

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Speaker 2: paid during a workstoppage. I think it's important to understand.

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Speaker 2: You know, people need to understand players are paid their

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Speaker 2: size during the season. If there's no season, they don't

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Speaker 2: get paid. So, you know, on the one hand, that's

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Speaker 2: something to say for certain teams like oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: they're not going to have to pay out the full

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Speaker 2: amount of the salary, but they're also not bringing the

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Speaker 2: gate revenue, which depending on the team, you know, between tickets, parking, food,

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Speaker 2: you know, in stadium, merch for the posits, every like

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Speaker 2: thirty minimum, you know, well, not minimally, I say most

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Speaker 2: teams it's about thirty to forty percent of their of

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Speaker 2: their revenue. Depends on the team, depends on the situation suation.

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Speaker 2: But if any business lost thirty to forty percent of

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Speaker 2: their revenue, they'd be in dire straight. So again, in

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Speaker 2: terms of the lockout, it's it's for all players, right,

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Speaker 2: we just have to wait and see what's going to mean.

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Speaker 2: I think realistically the Potters are doing the right thing,

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Speaker 2: which is trying to put their best foot forward to

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Speaker 2: win in twenty twenty six, because, as we've talked about,

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Speaker 2: the possibility exists of an extended lockout in twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: and then by the time twenty twenty eight comes around,

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Speaker 2: Machadaw and Bogart's from their age thirty four seasons. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: it would be their age thirty five seasons. Then. You know,

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Speaker 2: as we've discussed, there are exceptions, you know, the Freddie Freeman's,

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Speaker 2: the Justin Turners, the JD. Martinez is their exceptions. But

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Speaker 2: on the whole, the majority of position players fall off

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Speaker 2: a cliff hitting their age thirty five season. In the

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Speaker 2: post steroid era, so understanding that trying to be as

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Speaker 2: competitive as they can be for twenty twenty six is

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Speaker 2: the right move. This was a good first step to

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Speaker 2: doing that.

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Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun, all right, Kyle, I

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Speaker 1: read this was a lot of fun the very first

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Speaker 1: holiday mailbag, and this will continue into twenty two twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I already received a question about Manny Machado and the

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Speaker 1: idea of moving him one day to first base, but

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Speaker 1: we'll save that question for the next Padres mail bag.

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Speaker 1: I am Marty Caswell. That is Kyle Glazier. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for watching us here today on Friar Territory.

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Speaker 1: We are part of the Foul Territory TV network.

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Speaker 3: I need some gear.

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Speaker 1: I have my eyes on that gray, bluish hoodie that

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Speaker 1: I want, so I will be sending you my orders soon.

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Speaker 3: Kyle, appreciate you. We'll talk soon.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good. Have a great holiday, everybody,