WEBVTT - #457 - Drew Baldridge on Playing 300 Backyards + Everyone Being Against Him

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<v Speaker 1>The song comes out Friday, right, it jumps up on

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<v Speaker 1>streams because this video is reacting. I don't have a manager,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a record label. It's just me and

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<v Speaker 1>this goes kaboom and I'm sitting here like what do

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<v Speaker 1>I do? I hope I get a record deal and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode four fifty seven with Drew Baldridge.

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<v Speaker 3>He has a song called She's Somebody's Daughter that's currently

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<v Speaker 3>Top twenty, and it's his first ever top twenty, which

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<v Speaker 3>I was surprised to hear. And it's his first ever

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<v Speaker 3>top forty, is what he said, right, yep. But his

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<v Speaker 3>whole story of how he got here, I did not

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<v Speaker 3>know it until I started to read about him and

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<v Speaker 3>talk about him, and I was kind of blown away

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<v Speaker 3>by this interview. I don't think I've ever met him

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<v Speaker 3>until he came over and we did this. As a

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<v Speaker 3>matter of fact, I didn't know what to expect, but

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<v Speaker 3>really I came away from this this has been one

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorites in a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Drew Baldridge.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna shut up and let you hear it

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<v Speaker 3>because it's an awesome story. I'm not crazy, right, No,

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<v Speaker 3>It's an awesome story.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of just kind of waded into it not

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<v Speaker 3>knowing what to it was, and the whole time I

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<v Speaker 3>could have done.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hours with this guy. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Drew Baldridge Follow him on Instagram Drew Baldridge Music. Check

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<v Speaker 3>out his music, go buy his merch He you know,

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<v Speaker 3>worked on a farm. It's a family farm of Potokio, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 3>And next thing you know, he's here. Next thing you know, well,

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<v Speaker 3>all this happens here. He is Drew Baldridge. True.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 4>Buddy?

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<v Speaker 2>Good?

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<v Speaker 4>Buddy, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a sports fan?

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<v Speaker 4>Huge sports fan?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a former athlete?

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<v Speaker 4>I am? Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your thought on why? Because I have a thought?

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<v Speaker 3>What is your thought on why there are so many

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<v Speaker 3>athletes that are also successful artists?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man?

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe there's no correlation at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's also like the hard work

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<v Speaker 1>determination aspect. Maybe, you know, I know, growing up sports

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<v Speaker 1>was like everything. Like music really wasn't anything until I

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<v Speaker 1>was like sixteen seventeen. But just talking to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other athletes, know, I feel like, if you're an artist,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be a baseball player a basketball player

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<v Speaker 1>and vice versa. You know, I know several other like

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<v Speaker 1>sports guys that would like love to sing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's super interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that has a lot to do with the

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<v Speaker 3>culture of competition within yourself. I think if you grew

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<v Speaker 3>up an athlete, you know how to work. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>know how to train, you know that you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>get better. You're comparing yourself against others, against what you've

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<v Speaker 3>done in the past yesterday. Hard work is a big

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<v Speaker 3>part of it. I mean, to be an elite athlete.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like even if you're super talented, it's that

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<v Speaker 3>easy to still be an eleaite athlete.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a lot to do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And only asked that because it got a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>d ms of people just asking me random questions, and

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<v Speaker 3>one of them was that it was why are there

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<v Speaker 3>so many athletes slash artists? And I think those cultures

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<v Speaker 3>mix well together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do agree the challenge aspect of like competition,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's always I mean, as much as we

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do it, and we always say we don't,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the friends around you. You know, some of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends have been uber successful and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>went home, you know, And but there's always that drive

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<v Speaker 1>of no matter if they're your friend or not, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to win.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you got a pickle ball court, you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about It's like, no matter who you have

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<v Speaker 1>on that court, you're gonna try to you're gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll kill you. Do you ever to play pickleball?

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<v Speaker 1>I have?

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<v Speaker 4>So we used to do it all time in high school,

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<v Speaker 4>which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that was before I even thought pickleball exists.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now it's like this whole new craze and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, everybody is talking about pickleball.

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<v Speaker 2>And we did in high school pickleball.

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<v Speaker 4>In high school, we did yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they had like tape on the gym floor and

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<v Speaker 1>we would play. We played in high school, like twelve

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<v Speaker 1>years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Where'd you grow up?

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<v Speaker 1>Grew up in southern Illinois? Patka, Illinois, Boom in metropolis?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that near? How far is away from somewhere that

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<v Speaker 2>I know?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of Mount Vernon, Illinois? Or Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Louis eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>Miles east straight east now we're talking, or straight yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>straight east of Saint Louis, Saint Louis. We were in

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<v Speaker 3>Saint Louis two weeks ago, and what was annoying to

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<v Speaker 3>us was because we went to work out with the Cardinals,

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<v Speaker 3>which is super cool.

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<v Speaker 2>They invited us up. We get to love that work

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<v Speaker 2>out with a huge Cardinals fan.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you the massive It's cool. I give you a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of stories then. But we were there and we

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to we wanted to bet. We couldn't because it's

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<v Speaker 3>not legal in Missouri and have a big deal with DraftKings,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were like, just drive over.

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<v Speaker 2>The state line.

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<v Speaker 3>Not the Cardinals, by the way, it wasn't the Cardinals said.

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<v Speaker 3>We were doing a podcast there out in front of

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<v Speaker 3>the stadium before we went into work with the Cardinals,

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<v Speaker 3>and Eddie and I were so frustrated because we couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>bet inside Missouri because you Canton, Tennessee. Yeah you can

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<v Speaker 3>in Illinois. And they were like, they have like boats there.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the boat the boats, Yeah, it makes the water.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is also the most ridiculous thing because growing up

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<v Speaker 3>in Arkansas, there was no gambling in Arkansas except for

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<v Speaker 3>the race track, the horse race track, but nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>You can only gamble on horse in this one spot.

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<v Speaker 3>So we would drive to Louisiana, and even in Louisiana

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<v Speaker 3>you couldn't gamble unless.

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<v Speaker 2>You were gambling on the water on a boat. But

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't really a boat. It was a big, huge,

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<v Speaker 2>like old school. It looked like one of those old

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<v Speaker 2>civil wars.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't move, it just states it's not really a barely

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<v Speaker 1>floating Yeah, because it's on water, they allowed you to

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<v Speaker 1>gamble on it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny. What was what was home like for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Parents together?

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<v Speaker 4>Parents together? Yeah, I was very blessed man.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a great family, very Christian household.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We were farm family. So my grandpa farmed and he

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<v Speaker 1>farmed corn and beans, and we uh had cattle a hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>Head of cattle or so. So we did a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of work on that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's you know, I always tell everybody a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of music, you know, kind of comes with that.

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<v Speaker 4>We were not rich farmers. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's old tractors and combine combine, Yeah, old white tractors,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would break down like every every year, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like something would break and it would be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna try to fix it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>see what we can move on That's how always fell

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<v Speaker 1>about music a little bit too kind of interesting, of

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<v Speaker 1>like something always breaks, you know, something doesn't go your way,

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<v Speaker 1>but you just hey, you got to get the crop in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you got to get it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have a new combine? Oh? Did you ever

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<v Speaker 2>get to it?

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<v Speaker 4>We had this old gleaner, all right, and it's called

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<v Speaker 4>a gleaner.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll never forget one time my grandpa was combined

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<v Speaker 1>in the field. It was wheat, and sparks were flying

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<v Speaker 1>out the top of this whole week of this old combine,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had one of my best friends with me

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<v Speaker 1>and caught the whole field on fire. The whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>was up because the sparks. Yeah, because sparks fell out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I run out there and I'm like waving my grandpa.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I was like stop stopping. He's like what what.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, the whole look behind you. There's a trail

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<v Speaker 4>of fire.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like running up to my uncle's house with

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<v Speaker 1>buckets out of the pool and like trying to put

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<v Speaker 1>this fire out.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>When I did a show on that GEO called Breaking

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Bones, one of the deals that I did was

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<v Speaker 3>I went to a farm in Virginia, and they had

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<v Speaker 3>me use every version basically a combine, but I used

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<v Speaker 3>a hand and then that's tractor pulling, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>used a big, new, nice combine.

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<v Speaker 2>Those things are so nice, so nice. It's like a million.

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<v Speaker 3>Dollars drives itself GPS, it's air conditioned. You just sit

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<v Speaker 3>in and basically turn the corner. It's like an anesthesiologist.

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<v Speaker 3>You're trained for if something goes wrong. Otherwise you just

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<v Speaker 3>sit and chill and helped that. The day is what

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<v Speaker 3>the day brings.

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<v Speaker 4>And we didn't have any of those new ones.

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<v Speaker 1>And my brother is still farms back home, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think my brother and my cousins are getting newer. But

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<v Speaker 1>like when I was growing up, man, all they I

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<v Speaker 1>was the baby of the family, so it was like

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<v Speaker 1>got all the crap jobs, you know. It's like, hey

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<v Speaker 1>you haul the grain in, you know, or hey you

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<v Speaker 1>disked the field. There was nothing of me driving the

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<v Speaker 1>combine because they did not trust little baby Drew to

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Who lived in the house, Your mom or dad? You?

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<v Speaker 1>My mom, my dad? Me and my older brother how

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<v Speaker 1>much older. He was two and a half years older.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I when he was a senior, I was

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman and uh, you know they all still live

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<v Speaker 1>in little Patoka.

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<v Speaker 3>If you wanted to go to a concert or too.

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<v Speaker 3>We had town if you wanted to go to town,

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<v Speaker 3>but there were no concerts in town. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>keep going to Littleron to get to town to a concert.

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<v Speaker 3>Where would concerts be or whe would you go grocery shopping?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like you know school, like if we go school

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<v Speaker 1>close shopping, we'd go to Saint Louis area, like Fairview.

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<v Speaker 2>Heights and half our and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, their concerts Verizon Wireless, you know, Amphitheater, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's still called that or not. Out on

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<v Speaker 1>in Saint Louis area. That's where we would go to

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<v Speaker 1>like watch Tobe Heath, you know, and Tray Atkins. That

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<v Speaker 1>was like one of my first prominent concerts was watching them.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know you could drive up to We've gone

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<v Speaker 1>up to Springfield, Illinois, which is state capitol like state Fair,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, watched Aldan and Chris Young there like my

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<v Speaker 1>senior year high school, and that was like another place

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<v Speaker 1>like county fairs, you know, And they're starting to become

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<v Speaker 1>more shows than what they were when I was growing

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<v Speaker 1>up because it was just hard.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just hard to get to a concert. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you go to church.

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<v Speaker 1>And you play music, and you watch people on CMT,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know you would just that's where you found

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<v Speaker 1>your music, was the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Or that where was music in your house?

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<v Speaker 1>My dad sang. My dad sang in church, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to sing in church too. So I

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<v Speaker 1>started singing in church when I was I think first

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<v Speaker 1>time I sang was first grade Christmas program at my school,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that turned into anytime there was a talent

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<v Speaker 1>show in town or anytime there was, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>church function, I would lead worship.

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<v Speaker 3>Did your dad want to be a singer or was

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<v Speaker 3>it just something he liked to do since he was

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<v Speaker 3>home He's like to do it at home.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just think he liked to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>He liked to sing Southern gospel music, so lots of

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<v Speaker 1>old cassettes of the Cathedrals and Statesman Quartet, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just loved singing, you know, Southern gospel church music.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was just something he was passionate about.

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<v Speaker 1>So but when I started doing it, it's definitely made

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<v Speaker 1>like his passion. I think he sees a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>himself and probably what we're doing now of music, and

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<v Speaker 1>he never misses a show and we're up there. They

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<v Speaker 1>traveled down here a lot. He follows me to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of places, and it's been really fun to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of share that hobby with my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>What did he and or your mom think whenever you

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to get into this non traditional career.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I had a scholarship to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a little little college and next it's called Kaskaskia College

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<v Speaker 1>and went there for a year. And that whole year

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<v Speaker 1>I was coming here for like a week out of

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<v Speaker 1>a month and like trying to write, meet people, do

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<v Speaker 1>all thing. And then the next year I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna move to Nashville, but I'll still do the

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<v Speaker 1>junior I'll do it all online. And here they were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put so much time into me at sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had a chance for a scholarship and I

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<v Speaker 1>turned that down because I wanted to play music, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought my mom was going to kill me. But

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<v Speaker 1>I will say like they supported it. You know, They're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your dream, go do it. And I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to my mom and I was like, man, you let

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<v Speaker 1>me nineteen year old, like didn't know how to drive

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<v Speaker 1>in the city. Go down to Nashville, kid, and just

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out, and she goes.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought always thought you'd come home. I always thought that.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be like you go down for a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and you'd get tired of that and you'd come home.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your first time to Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, My first time to Nashville. I saw Josh Turner

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<v Speaker 1>in concert.

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<v Speaker 2>At for that reason, you came to a show here.

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<v Speaker 1>Came to a show when I was for my eighteenth birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>My Mama brought me and I went downtown Broadway, bought

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<v Speaker 1>a hat, cowboy hat, just because it was the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had meet and greets. I was front row

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<v Speaker 1>at what was.

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<v Speaker 2>A Wildhorse Yeah me and great, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I got meet and greet to meet Josh Turner.

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<v Speaker 1>He signed my cowboy hat. And I still have the

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<v Speaker 1>picture that's awesome somewhere of me and Josh Turner.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know the fast forward.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time I played the Opry, I sang a

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<v Speaker 1>Josh song and he came out on stage and surprised me.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Dang, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>I cried.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like I got a little chill you hearing that,

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<v Speaker 3>are me hearing that? Yeah, you came to a Josh

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<v Speaker 3>show and then your opry. I mean I I first

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<v Speaker 3>time I played the opera do and stand up? I

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<v Speaker 3>told my grandmother's favorite joke, because she is who I

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<v Speaker 3>watched the opry with.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like when you get to the opera.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, obviously playing the oprey is cool, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>something that you wait to do, but you always want

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<v Speaker 3>to like do something that kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Brought you to it, like to that that's interesting some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of respect.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be something you wear, something you do, or

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<v Speaker 3>a song, but that was it for me too.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, I would only be here really

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<v Speaker 2>if it wasn't for.

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<v Speaker 3>My grandma who made me when I was real young,

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<v Speaker 3>like listen to the opera or watch the opry on

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<v Speaker 3>TNN or CMT or wherever it was. And to you,

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<v Speaker 3>you played a Josh Turner song the first concert in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 2>That's freaking cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I haven't really told anybody that story, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>about seeing Josh Turner first at the Wild Horse, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was just you know that's I always covered your

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<v Speaker 1>man at every karaoke thing there ever was that was

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<v Speaker 1>the go to song, and so I sang it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget my guitar player stepping up on when

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the opp he started playing a solo

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody started cheering for my guitar player.

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<v Speaker 2>But you didn't You for sure didn't know. You didn't

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<v Speaker 2>not know Josh Starner was coming.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh clue.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, not even five minutes before, because that would still

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<v Speaker 3>been cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not even five minutes before.

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<v Speaker 1>He my guitar players playing a solo and the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>starts screaming. I'm like, what the freaking heck, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all screaming from my guitar player. And I turned around,

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<v Speaker 1>looking's Josh standing behind me, and I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I'm literally crying tears on the opry stage

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<v Speaker 1>and he starts singing and I just quit and he

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<v Speaker 1>just kept singing, and I'm just like trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>little parts. And then I'm like lost in it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like take it Drought, and I forget every word.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, uh, I say on the mic, I don't even.

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<v Speaker 4>Know where we're at. And the old man had like

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<v Speaker 4>take it to the end.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was so special awesome story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll never forget it.

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<v Speaker 2>And no one tipped you off.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody tip me, but.

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<v Speaker 2>For them too, because I'm sure some people knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean at that time, my manager was

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<v Speaker 1>rusty gassing.

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<v Speaker 4>And he pulled it and that's all off.

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<v Speaker 1>No idea. Nobody at the opera even even told me

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<v Speaker 1>you're hinted at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever hear Josh's stories about going to Willie

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<v Speaker 3>Nelson's or no, Johnny Cash's house.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's probably I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know we've talked about it like on my show, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to like be wrong about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>he just drove up to his house.

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<v Speaker 3>One day and like knocked on the door, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>like Johnny Cash live here, Oh, and like wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>ask him questions that he went in. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 3>And again, this only popped in my head because you

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<v Speaker 3>brought Josh up. But it seems to me and Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>you ma can help me with the memory of this,

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<v Speaker 3>But it seems to me like Johnny Cash was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you opened the door and let him in, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, and they had a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>And then yeah, that's what it feels a special. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of really cool Johnny Cash stories. Ronnie Dunn

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<v Speaker 3>from Brooks and Done obviously, who's a family friend of ours.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that he moved here and he had been

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<v Speaker 2>doing music.

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<v Speaker 3>And in Oklahoma and Texas kind of the Arkansas region,

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<v Speaker 3>but really just there. His girlfriend then wife was really

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<v Speaker 3>good friends with June, and so he came and he

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<v Speaker 3>lived with Johnny Cash.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Ronnie Done did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Wow, that's it, Ronnie Okay, yeah, Ronnie Done. And

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<v Speaker 3>so he there's like a little house on the property,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we've been living in that house. But he'd

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<v Speaker 3>go over to Johnny's house and he'd be like, Johnny's

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<v Speaker 3>watching CNN, just hanging out and Ronnie that was just

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<v Speaker 3>sitting on the couch with him. And ron I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was weird because that's Johnny Cash, but also that

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<v Speaker 3>was like my wife's friend, and that's who like, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're coming to Nashville, come stay with us.

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<v Speaker 2>How wild is that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean talking about your heroes. I mean, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You and Josh. Do you guys ever become buddies at all? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, could you ever call him and just be like,

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<v Speaker 2>what we didn't I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't have Josh's number.

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<v Speaker 1>We've played several shows after that together, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>played one this past year and just catching up.

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember one time I was down.

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<v Speaker 1>My producer was living in College Grove and this was

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<v Speaker 1>after I played the Opry and I'm pumping gas and

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<v Speaker 1>I look on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Other side Josh and I'm like, he's like, hey, hey, Drew. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, what are you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, man, I'm just I did live out here,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in his area.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like the normal guy, Josh. Yeah, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was just normal.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, don't meet your heroes, but he was so

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<v Speaker 1>cool to me, and you know, I know he was

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<v Speaker 1>also like I just saw, you know, Scotty McCreary got

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<v Speaker 1>inducted into the Grand Ole Opry as a member, and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Josh came out for that. He's just a

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<v Speaker 1>really good dude. And I think that's what excited me

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<v Speaker 1>after I met him, was like, he's still a good dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And he was Josh even more normal than you

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<v Speaker 3>think he's going to be, even when you know he's normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you just think this here, this big voice

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<v Speaker 1>out of him. You know, you see sons of hits,

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<v Speaker 1>respected by everybody and just like man, super normal dude,

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<v Speaker 1>family man, you know, loves his wife, got his kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, towards that way.

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<v Speaker 3>And he must have so much testosterone his body to

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<v Speaker 3>have that voice, like to have that voice, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>just dripping out.

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<v Speaker 2>So you lived to Nashville at nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you say scholarship, was it a academic academic?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Just smart kid was pretty good edictorian pretodol You were

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<v Speaker 3>a valedictorian, Yeah, VALDIETI I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to tell you of how many.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, my.

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<v Speaker 3>Graduating class was like, you know, fifty kids or so.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to a small school.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, mine was twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's listen. You're still talking about better than ninety

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<v Speaker 3>five percent. You're in the top four percent. Basically we'll

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<v Speaker 3>take it, you know. But it was, Yeah, I was valedictorian.

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<v Speaker 1>Always really proud of myself and learning and studying kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like with this business, you know, coming here and.

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<v Speaker 4>And just really learning the business.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just didn't want to be an artist that

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<v Speaker 1>just sang songs, you know, Like I looked at Toby Keith.

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<v Speaker 1>He learned the business, had a great business mind, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was something that I really wanted to dive in

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<v Speaker 1>and learn into.

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<v Speaker 2>First concert was it the Toby concert?

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<v Speaker 4>It was, yeah, it took you to that.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom and dad took me to that, and Toby

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<v Speaker 1>was one and then another. Craig Morgan was like my

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<v Speaker 1>second concert. I think that there was this place in Effingham, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever heard of that sound

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<v Speaker 1>watched Craig Morgan there. I'll never forget Craig forgot the

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<v Speaker 1>words to uh International Harvester, and that was my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>song at the time, and I just thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>hilarious how he handled it, you know, and just like

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't get to put a flour and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, oh my gosh, people, they're human, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot the words.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love Craig Man. That guy's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking at the chart success of your current

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<v Speaker 3>song She's Somebody's Daughter. I did not know is this

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<v Speaker 3>what is your highest charting song?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? It is?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've never had a top forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't. I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I just suspected you've had in the most complimentary way.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say I suspected you had a couple.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, well, thank you for saying that. But in here forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Super congratulations, Thanks man. But what stuck out to me was,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can define what this means. I was reading

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<v Speaker 3>that you were a bit self funded.

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<v Speaker 4>All of it. Yeah, real self.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, She's Somebody's Daughter came out in twenty nineteen. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it about my wife. It did nothing, It sit

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<v Speaker 1>there I wanted. I was part of a label called

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<v Speaker 1>Cold River Independent.

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<v Speaker 3>So who owned that label? Guy named Peedle heron okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So do they have anybody else?

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<v Speaker 1>They had Katie Arminger her name, yeah, okay, And so

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<v Speaker 1>we had a couple songs came out. A song called

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<v Speaker 1>Rebound did pretty well for us. Nothing ever top forty.

0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.520
<v Speaker 1>We got to forty two, I think was our highest song.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I did all the radio tour, I

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<v Speaker 1>met everybody, all the things. And that label closed down

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen, right around the sign I put this

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<v Speaker 1>song out and luckily Praise the Lord, like that was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be my single. But I'll never forget I sang

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<v Speaker 1>the vocals of She's Somebody's Daughter. I go out and

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<v Speaker 1>sit in my car, I pull up my email and

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<v Speaker 1>on Country air Check, which is for everybody out there,

0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like a tells radio everything that's going on. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a girl named to Neil Towns that had a

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<v Speaker 1>song called Somebody's Daughter going for.

0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Ads Somebody is God, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, you gotta be freaking kidding me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my favorite song. So I just it just

0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.240
<v Speaker 1>sit there on It did nothing. And then me and

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<v Speaker 1>my wife got married in twenty one and I made

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding version so she could dance to it with

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<v Speaker 1>her dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait two years, it's set, nineteen to twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>One, nineteen to twenty one, it's set. It did nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was on Spotify, but it just no. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really talk about it, did nothing with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then twenty one we got married. I on our honeymoon,

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<v Speaker 1>I posted TikTok and I just say, hey, if this

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<v Speaker 1>gets three thousand likes, i'll put it out on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just trying to tease.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up Thursday and I had almost ten million

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<v Speaker 1>views and the video had a million likes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my gosh, I'm crying, and me and

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<v Speaker 1>my wife are dancing in our little condo, and I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Rewind that for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you do your video saying I'm gonna put this

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<v Speaker 3>out now, being transparent is probably already gonna come out.

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<v Speaker 1>For plan Yeah, yeah, the song is already coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>but you just hope, Yeah, reaction happens, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what day was this?

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<v Speaker 4>When this was a Wednesday night?

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<v Speaker 2>So Wednesday night you make the video?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah in my rental car, like, not extravagant at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, my wife danced to this at our wedding

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<v Speaker 1>last week. If you guys like it, it's coming out Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>And how was it positioned? Are you sitting in the

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<v Speaker 2>car and you turned the radio up and you played

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<v Speaker 2>over the top or are you singing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm lip singing it? Got it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And then when did the ten million views happen? By

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<v Speaker 2>what day? Thursday?

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<v Speaker 4>By the next day?

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy crazy, And mind you, I'm like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>look all night because I haven't had a video do that,

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:51.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. I'm just thinking, like I'm going to wake

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<v Speaker 1>up the next day. Obviously I'm with my wife. It's

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<v Speaker 1>our honeymoon. We're enjoying it, and I wake up and

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<v Speaker 1>I look at her and I'm like, wow, Katie, look

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<v Speaker 1>at this. And I pulled up and my followers jump

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think that something may be wrong with your

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>TikTok account? No, I was just like, holy freaking crap.

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what was going on. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>a video do.

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<v Speaker 3>Even Like I've had some pretty successful videos, like if

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<v Speaker 3>I get half a million a night, I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is awesome. I would think that there was something with

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<v Speaker 3>all on my TikTok. If I had ten million in

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<v Speaker 3>the night.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was just like, I've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that was early on in TikTok Land

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. You know, they were kind of I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they were letting videos go more than they were now.

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<v Speaker 1>And dude, you know, I started getting calls from some

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<v Speaker 1>mind you every label in Nashville is shut down, it's COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty well, music ain't really happening. It's kind of starting

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<v Speaker 1>to come back. But I started getting calls from LA

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<v Speaker 1>labels every day like, hey man, we see your cause.

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<v Speaker 1>The song comes out Friday, right, it jumps up on

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:52.440
<v Speaker 1>streams because this video is reacting and uh, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a manager, I don't have a record label, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a booking agent at this time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>And this goes kaboom and I'm sitting here like what

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<v Speaker 1>do I do? I hope I get a record deal

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:08.120
<v Speaker 1>and nobody, nobody calls, Like all La LA would would

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>take the call and they're like, hey, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>get Universal Nashville involved, and then we come to Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>they kabash it. They would be like, no calls from Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>Be Warner LA Electra. They would call, they'd be excited.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd get to Warner Nashville, Warner Nashville, w do nothing

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think that is?

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<v Speaker 4>Man? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that I can guess is I had

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<v Speaker 1>a shot, and I had three singles at radio and

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<v Speaker 1>none of them did anything. And I'm thinking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville is kind of that town. If you get one shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you gotta be shiny. You gotta take advantage of it.

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>You gotta take time, you gotta take advantage of that

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<v Speaker 1>shiny time. And if you don't get that, then they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to find the next shiny kid.

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<v Speaker 5>Hang tight, the Bobby cast will be right back and

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<v Speaker 5>we're back on the Bobby cast.

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<v Speaker 3>That would have been my theory too. And also is

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<v Speaker 3>before TikTok had this history of having some making, having

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<v Speaker 3>some worth and yeah, and the making not the making,

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<v Speaker 3>but the highlighting and labels investing in artists and then

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<v Speaker 3>them having success.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean at the same time this was happening, Priscilla

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<v Speaker 1>Block was having her moment, you know, Bailey Zereman was

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<v Speaker 1>having his moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Me and Bailey were real close.

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<v Speaker 1>He was from my hometown area, and you know, we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it and he was at that time he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting calls from some of the same people that I

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>were in LA and making it. And I was just

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<v Speaker 1>like it would I would go have these label meetings

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<v Speaker 1>and it would be like, well, we want to see

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<v Speaker 1>you do a million streams a week, and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been out four months and it's got sixteen million streams.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a million a week. What else do you need

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 4>to see?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, if you come here, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be eight months before we take you to radio.

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<v Speaker 2>They were looking for reasons to not do there were

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<v Speaker 2>binding reasons to not do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and mind you like. I love a lot

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>of these people. I think they're good people, but I

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>just wanted a chance. I wanted a shot. And so

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, I don't have anything. I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>post on socials and I say I'll play in anybody's

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<v Speaker 1>backyard that wants to have me because I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm broke. I'm broke.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel you.

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:19.959
<v Speaker 1>And so I thought i'd get like five requests, and

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.880
<v Speaker 1>so I get like twenty some thousand requests on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>For two years, I go play three hundred people's backyards,

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<v Speaker 1>just me and a guitar.

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<v Speaker 4>Show up. Hey, how's it gone. I'm drew, never knowing

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<v Speaker 4>what our setup was really and.

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<v Speaker 2>No way they would just fly to their house and

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<v Speaker 2>play in their backyard.

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<v Speaker 4>Play in their backyard. Yeah, I did like three hundred,

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<v Speaker 4>and some of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Just take whatever money they gave you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. It started off that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, hey, whatever you could give me, and

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 1>then I was like, this is what I need. Because

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>there were some times I would lose on it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'd be like, this is what.

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<v Speaker 4>I really need.

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<v Speaker 1>Two or three grand, pay for mym my tour manager,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will come play in your backyard for seventy

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>five minutes, play corn hole, eat barbecue.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought what you did for two years people houses

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<v Speaker 3>just play in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 4>Just play in their backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>Clip that clipped that we're gonna get ten million of

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<v Speaker 2>you tonight we post that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was like there was a stint after I

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>got married. After our honeymoon, I fly home, my tour

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>manager picks me up in my sprinter van and we

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<v Speaker 1>go play twenty backyards in nineteen days.

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<v Speaker 4>We went all around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a day we played two shows and somebody

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>in different in that same town, in different people's backyards.

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>But we played twenty backyards in nineteen days. And mind you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just playing. Everybody will have me. Hey, if this

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>is what I need to get there, They'd say yes,

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I'd drive there, I'd fly there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd go play it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I would make little t shirts that

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<v Speaker 1>had their little hometown you know of you know, ma

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>scoot to Illinois instead of Saint Louis. It would put

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<v Speaker 1>that on the back of the shirt. I called it

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the Baldridge and Bonfire Tour. And I just played three

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred people's backyards.

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<v Speaker 2>Dang man, you are a winner.

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 4>Nah, man, it was just that's what I had to do, survive.

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 2>That's what winners do. That's what winners do. That is

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 2>one of the best stories that I have heard.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, Well, well, thank you for that.

0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 1>And then it got I was doing these backyards and

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<v Speaker 1>I play my first festival, you know. Back I texted

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>some friends that were promoters and I was like, hey,

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't have an agent.

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 4>I'll give you a good deal, like, please let me play.

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 1>And they gave me a couple of fairs in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three and I go play my first one and everybody

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>singing every word to She's Somebody's daughter. And I haven't

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>really like I knew it was having this moment, but

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I haven't played for any people. I've been back. It's

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>been out since nineteen. It's been out since nineteen on

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>streaming platform.

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Just sitting there.

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>But then when I when I made these videos, what

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 1>happened was I put my video out, then this one

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>girl start in twenty twenty one. She posted the video

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>was like her in the mirror and it said listen

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>to these lyrics girls, and then acted out the verses.

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 4>She's more than just a.

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Pretty face in a late night bar to show her

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>in a bar. She's more than just a paratie jeans

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>sitting in her car, and she'd be sitting in her car. Well,

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>then the whole chorus is her growing up with her

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>dad pictures. And I would watch this video and I

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>had like, I don't know, five six million views brought

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>me to tear, so I just do edit it.

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 4>I was like, check this out.

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>And then it started this daughter trend and all these

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>girls from from Mexico to France to Norway to sweet

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 1>all these different languages.

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Is bigger than the song. At that point, it was bigger.

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 4>Than the song. It was dad and it was dad

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<v Speaker 4>and daughter.

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>And then that happened for about six months, and then

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Father's Day ish or something came around where one girl

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>did a duet of her video with her dad's reaction

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>that got ten million views, and then all those videos

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 1>started doing their dad's reaction.

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Would you see the effect on streaming from when TikTok

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 3>was blowing up with yours?

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 2>And you would see it.

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 3>But then when these new versions we'll call them, these

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 3>new viral yeah movements would happen.

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 4>Every time you would see pops yeah.

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And luckily I own that you know, like it was

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>my little song that could, and every time new virality happened,

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I would see tick up and then you know, like

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, fast forward twenty twenty three, here we are

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>playing the show.

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 4>I get off stage.

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of frustrated at this moment because I'm like,

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>what else do I got approved to Nashville that I

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>deserve to be on a record label that I want

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>to tour with people, I want to have an agent,

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And I look.

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 4>I start googling.

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I start not googling by going to my artist Spotify

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>because you could see back in.

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 4>How many streams.

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I start counting up as like, dude, this has a

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>song has one hundred million streams and it's done. There's

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>been no money involved, like pushing songs up. It's just

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>people finding it on TikTok and are Facebook or Instagram.

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>And I decided I got off. I got off the

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>stage and I just started calling radio. I said, hey,

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I got this song. I think I'm going to try

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>to do it myself. Would you play it?

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 4>Dude?

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to miss out on a lot

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of streams if you don't bring it to radio. Then

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I woud ask radio. I'd be like who should I hire?

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And they would tell me. So I just created my

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>own staff, paid for it on my own streams, with

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>my streams, and now we have a freaking top twenty.

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe this week might be top fifteen record.

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Maybe my favorite story ever told. Oh my goodness, that

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 3>is that is that's the greatest. Like that is you grinding.

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 3>It didn't just happen for you, like you had to

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 3>do things for the fall in place, and then you

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 3>taking advantage of every little small opportunity that was fed

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 3>to you by the big amounts of work that you

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 3>were doing.

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>The fact that you would go and playing people's yards.

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Well what started that yards was Okay, twenty nineteen, lose

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>my record deal. I just came off a radio tour.

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>And radio tour for everybody out there is like.

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 2>It's miserable.

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 4>It's tough.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 3>You got to go into every freaking radio station and

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 3>act like every PD he's the coolest guy you ever

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 3>freaking met.

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>It's hard. It's so hard. But I come off this

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>radio tour. The label closes, well, I have this song

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>that I put out at the same time as Daughter

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>was called Senior Year, and the hook of the song

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>said never thought it would disappear senior year. I just

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 1>meant live it up, kids, it's gonna go by fast. Well,

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty comes, all their senior years disappear, so it

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>starts having this TikTok thing. So what I do is

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I get on TikTok and I'm like, hey, class of

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, I'm doing zoom concerts. Anybody wants a zoom concert,

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it. So it was turning like seven or

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>eight zoom concerts today from my living room. I play

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>for like one hundred and fifty kids at a time,

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and then some schools were like, will you come play

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>our graduation drive through?

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, sit on my butt, yeah.

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>So then I created a tour where there would be

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>like Florida would call and be like, hey, we want

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>you to come play our drive through graduation. So then

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I would look around surrounding areas and I would cold

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>call front schools at their front office.

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 4>And be like, Hey, I'm Drew Baldridge.

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I see your graduation is on July seventeenth, and I'm

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be in town on the eighteenth. Do you

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>want me to come play your graduation? And then it

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>would be like are you like no, you're a creep,

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and be like somebody like I can't

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>believe we're talking to you.

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, please come play the graduation.

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>So I started playing graduations and then that's what gave

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>me the idea to play backyards. It's like, well, I'm

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>playing for schools. Why don't I just take it to

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the people and see if that works?

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it'd be so frustrating to not get that.

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 3>And it's not the most important thing. I say it too,

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 3>but it does matter, like that respect from like your

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 3>peers or like the town that you live in, like

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 3>you do want that. It's not the main it's why

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 3>we moved here, but it's nice to have people that

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 3>you work alongside acknowledge.

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>That, hey, I'm doing pretty good too.

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 3>That would be difficult that you are killing it, but

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 3>no one will even look at.

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, man, I can't.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how frustrating, how much sleep I

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>lost over and my poor wife just supporting me through

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>all this. But like going home and seeing all my

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>friends and my peers being uber successful, and I'm so

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>happy for them because I want that for them. We

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>moved here at the same time and I want them

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to be successful, but also being like, I got this

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>song that's doing just what their song is.

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 4>Why am and I think it's a.

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Wedding version that really blew up, so they're thinking it

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really fit our model. It's not radio, it's not

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>streaming because Spotify doesn't put me in one playlist until

0:32:58.360 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>last week.

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 4>Really, that's it's the first playlist I ever got.

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 2>That's the first time you're playlisted.

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>On She's Somebody's daughter. Really, it's all been natural. And

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>then since we got top twenty on country radio, Spotify

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>put me in a playlist this last week, so radio

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>is driven playlisting to start playlisting us, And I'm just like,

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you Lord, finally.

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Are you ever like? Who out there is against me?

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 4>That's what I feel like, man, I mean like I

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 4>feel like that.

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Eddie and I would put out raging Eddiot's songs and

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 3>we get playlisted and I'd be like, I can't believe that,

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 3>and here you are killing it and you just now

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 3>got played. I mean, if I were you, I would

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 3>be like, Okay, who out there's who's running this shoke?

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>That's what I feel like, you know, And that's when

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I got to the point of like, screw it. If

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>nobody else believes in this like I do, why don't

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I just try it myself?

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 4>You know?

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>And now it's been really fun to see that we're

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>top twenty, you know, maybe this week top fifteen, which

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>would be insane.

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 4>Never been here.

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Before as a momentum. I know you're top twenty, but

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 3>it's still looking for soolid looks.

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 4>Incredible, that's all. It's exciting radio.

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I think all these pds are excited for us because

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.239
<v Speaker 1>we're kind of going against the machine a little bit,

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, hey, we support that, we want to

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>go And I think what's been the most fun is

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>artist friends that have been where I've been, and I'm

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>not going to name any names, but artist friends that

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>have try to single at radio it didn't work, label

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>gave up on them.

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:16.760
<v Speaker 4>I get to talk to them and talk.

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>About strategies of ways to get their music out and

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>help and you know, if we maybe we could take

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a single Overlert.

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's going to happen.

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>But it's just wild that that radio has supported this song.

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I really think, man, I don't want to say it,

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>but I think we could get number one that would

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>be insane.

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not everything, but just like been here for thirteen

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 1>years and never had a number one record or anything,

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that's that would be really cool.

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:38.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 3>It's not everything, but it is a it is a

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 3>thing if you make that a goal. I mean, yeah,

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 3>it's not everything.

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:45.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but if it's a lot.

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 3>If that's a goal of yours, If it was always

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 3>to come to town and have a number one, then yeah,

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 3>that's not the pretty significant If it was always to

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.240
<v Speaker 3>move to town and run a record label.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not everything if you don't, but if you do, that.

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.439
<v Speaker 4>Was a goal. That was a goal. Yeah, and I think, what.

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, that wasn't your goal. I could have been anybody.

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 2>It's go.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I'll miss using them separately. Yeah, I think the last

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 3>thing you want to do is run a record label.

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 3>And you're freaking late.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Hold, I don't know how old you are.

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 4>Thirty two yeah, ye.

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Starting to label at twenty nine, thirty thirty one years old,

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 3>that's probably not the plan.

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>And I was scared to death because there's you're putting

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>pumping money out right, because you got to radio, you

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>got to hire staff. I mean, for everybody out there,

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to get two business on.

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Everybody feel free too.

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, you know, to run a staff, and

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you know radio, you have to do ad bys. You

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>have to figure out I got to go play free shows,

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you have.

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 2>To do ad byes. I don't know about that. I've

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.280
<v Speaker 2>been out of the programming.

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Part of radio forever, right, Yeah, So part of my

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:38.760
<v Speaker 3>ignorance because I'm gonna.

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 2>Ask a couple questions I should Yeah.

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 3>People would think I would know the answer to yeah,

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 3>But I've never been in programming. I get paid to

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 3>do compelling content and I just play a song or

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 3>two if I like it.

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Occasionally.

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.919
<v Speaker 3>I have no real pro I program an a couple

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 3>of national shows, but that's it. So when you say

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that, I don't even know what that means.

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>So like an ad by, you know, let's say your

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>business and you know radio runs on advice, But why.

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 3>Would you because I understand that, like people, I need

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.919
<v Speaker 3>people to buy sponsorship on my radio show, but why

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:10.959
<v Speaker 3>would you have to buy an add buy?

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:16.479
<v Speaker 1>So it just creates like I think also shows radio,

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you're investing in radio, do.

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 3>They make they don't make you buy an ad by?

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Do they or is it something that's like, hey, if

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 3>you do this.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a partnership.

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, like hey, we want to see you invest

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>in radio, and you know vice versa.

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Like local markets, you'd buy ads.

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 4>I would buy ads. Yeah, it's crazy.

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>So it would be like a thirty second ad of

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>like hey, there's Drew Baldridge and this is my song

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>She's Somebody's daughter, okay, and it would play like thirty

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 1>seconds of my single and go stream it and download it.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Now, I'll read some of those sometimes the people buy.

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 3>If I like the artist, it'll pay me.

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>But if I kind of have a policy where I

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 2>don't have to read this commercial for anything, I don't

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 2>want to, that's awesome.

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 3>So like when Bailey or you just mentioned Bailey's aught

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 3>to say it like Bailey puts out something. I like

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Bailey and so and I like Bailey's music, and I'd

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 3>be like.

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Hey, check out they check out the new from Bailey's

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>and the record came out, go check it out.

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<v Speaker 4>That type of thing. That's exactly what an ad by is.

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<v Speaker 4>And so his label had to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that ad buy for so that would be something

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<v Speaker 1>on me that I now have to invest in that

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>You're spending money on this, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but in return? You know what's different with labels

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>now and radio? Sorry, I'm probably getting way too you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I want to hear it because I'm learning too.

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<v Speaker 4>But labels only make money when songstream.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at you, you know about the label and the

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 2>radio bits the stream because you've had to.

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<v Speaker 4>I've had to learn it.

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 2>You've had to learn it. I'm taking a lesson. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me break this down, please do So, labels

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>only make money when song stream and a song a

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.879
<v Speaker 1>million streams on Spotify is about forty one hundred bucks.

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.919
<v Speaker 1>A million streams on Apples about seventy five hundred bucks.

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>So let's say an artist.

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<v Speaker 2>To do that again with between the two forty forty.

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:52.720
<v Speaker 1>One hundred bucks on Spotify and about seventy five hundred

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>on Apple.

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Why are they different? Just?

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea. Apple supports master owners better.

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>And so that's what's crazy is you know mind you

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>master ownership, you know, writers share is completely different. Master,

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the person that owns the master makes the money. So

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the labels are making printing money right now, and the

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<v Speaker 1>writers are.

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<v Speaker 2>Like making nothing, making nothing.

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 4>But here's what I think.

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>When what I've noticed is the big disjoint labels make

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<v Speaker 1>money when songstream Labels don't make money on radio because

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the writer does, and so they only make money when

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the song starts.

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Streaming and from people hearing it on the radio.

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>People hearing it on the radio, but you don't get airplay,

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like I'm just now getting daytime airplay and seeing my

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>streams jump top freaking twenty. So like I'm just now

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>starting to see that. So when labels are coming right now,

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>labels are going less and less, you have to see it.

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've heard this streaming story. We need to

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 1>have a streaming story before we go to radio because

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 1>they have to fund it. But when you sign a

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 1>record deal, you give my last record deal, eighty four

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>percent of my master was to the label.

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 2>So previous you having you as an art Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what with the cold River? Yeah, and that

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 2>was a Coldstone creamery yeah, Colt still Creamery.

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>So it was like, okay, so I signed a record deal,

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm a new artist. I give eighty four percent of

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>my music to my label. I get sixteen. I have

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 1>to give four of my sixteen to my producer, so

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<v Speaker 1>I have twelve. So everything that a label puts into you.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to pay it back.

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Right, So let's say I drop in one hundred and

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand dollars on a record they've put in me

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and maybe some small radio tour. So I have to

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<v Speaker 1>make that label a million dollars to pay back the

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>one twenty because I only own twelve percent.

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 4>And so what's really hard with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is because it doesn't count if you're making them money

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 3>as part of their eighty six percent. That doesn't count, right,

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 3>It only counts if you're making them part of that

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<v Speaker 3>twelve percent.

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what you that's how you can pay back.

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, that's freaking crazy. It would take forever to

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<v Speaker 2>pay it back.

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>You won't, and that's why artists tore their brains out

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 1>because the only time you get money is when you're

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>on stage, and so you don't. There's lots of artists

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe Taylor Swift now, but like lots of artists that

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 1>will never see a dime because they're still in the red,

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like they're not they're not refunded. And so

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.240
<v Speaker 1>that's what's crazy right now, is I think that artists.

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>This shift in social media and this shift in artists

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 1>now being able to own that master has changed the

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>game drastically for labels, because hey, well I can put

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a song out She's somebody's daughter and not have a

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>label and get a hundred million streams and I own that. Now,

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to tour unless I want to and

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>pick the markets that I want to. And I think

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>artists are starting to see that, and I think the

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>business is going to start changing drastically, and it already

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 1>has of artists being like, oh man, you know, I

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>can put this song out and make this money and

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 1>streaming and see my watch my son play baseball in June,

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. Like I just think there's a big shift

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.479
<v Speaker 1>that's going to come, and it's already starting to happen

0:40:55.680 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>of labels not needing that eighty four percent anymore because

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>a it's really expensive to take songs to radio, so

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I get why they need a big chunk of it.

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 1>But if they're not going to take artists to radio

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>and you're just be a streaming artist like some people

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 1>are doing, don't give that eighty four percent. If you're

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>an artist, like, there's no reason for them to just

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 1>pay for a record and you give all that to them.

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 4>That's wild to me.

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 6>The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 6>Bobby Cast.

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<v Speaker 2>You're obviously a very intelligent guy. I can tell about.

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I'm probably talking way too.

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I like it.

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 3>I like it, and I can tell by listening to

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 3>you talk to you're a very intelligent guy. Do you

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 3>think you would have learned this had you not been

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 3>put in the situation to have to learn that?

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>No way, no way, because I would have just I was.

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I sit back and I let my team do everything.

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I had, the manager had everything, and then

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>just like normal artist fashion, I'd be like, where are

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>we at with that?

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 4>Why am I not on?

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 2>And you're focused on artisting? Yeah, to your moment. So

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 2>it's not like you don't want to know, but you've

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 2>got you know, when you're a artist signed a label,

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 2>you only have a one hundred percent capacity and that

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 2>capacities on being an artist.

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 4>Be an artist, creating, trying to record, trying to create content.

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 2>So you're not being lazy.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 3>So what I'm telling everybody listening, yeah, you're just putting

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 3>in all in one place. But you've had to learn

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 3>how to put in many different places to just get by.

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 1>To get by, and it was like I had to

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>put on a manager hat and be like, Okay, how

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 1>do I get shows? How do I create income? And

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>then I had to run a promo staff. I'm doing

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a calls every Monday, running a promo team. Hey, why

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>are you?

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 2>My mind is blown by this?

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 4>Why are we not being played in Philadelphia?

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, like having those conversations and breaking it down

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and hey, how do we attack that? And how do

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>we go after that? And let's create a strategy. You're

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>going to talk to them. I'll talk to them too.

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 1>And so it's just been a really weird year and

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a half of having to do and then like shows

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 1>coming in and booking that and booking it myself. And

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what's most exciting, Bobby is like being on

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>this podcast with you man is a really big deal

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:02.399
<v Speaker 1>and a dream of mine.

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm the biggest fan. I'm tell you, over

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 2>like the last twenty minutes, my mind is blown at

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 2>what didn't work turned into probably and possibly h the

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 2>greatest thing that ever happened to you in the most

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 2>difficult way.

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's what I talk about all the time.

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people is like, Okay, what if what

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>if Tanil wouldn't have put out somebody's daughter? And I

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>thought my career was in him because I didn't get

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to put out my song I loved. I wouldn't be

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>here being able to have this story with this song

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 1>five years later, and it's my own. I've had to

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>learn and I've had to you know, I always say, man,

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 1>sometimes in the lowest lows, you learn so much about

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 1>your business and your life around you and if you're

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.399
<v Speaker 1>going to stay and hey, there's only one way but up.

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 1>And that was something for me some dark times where

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, do I just quit.

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Those conversations with your wife? I'm assuming yeah you had.

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 2>What was she like when you're like, man, this is

0:43:56.880 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>very hard and I'm lost? Was her reaction and response.

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>She was like, God wouldn't have given you this town

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't you know, didn't deserve to be where

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 1>you're at, or didn't put a song in your heart

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>for you know, for a reason, like it's you're supposed

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:15.800
<v Speaker 1>to be doing this. You know you're supposed to be

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:18.240
<v Speaker 1>doing this. She always believed. When I didn't believe in myself,

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 1>she believed. And then I go to her and I say, hey,

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to sync X amount of dollars into a

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>radio single.

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 4>She's like, hey, go do it. You made you made

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 4>this money off your song. You believe in it. I

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 4>believe in it.

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's just I can't tell you how lucky I

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>am to have my wife and now playing radio shows

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>going on. We have a seventeen month old and so

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.320
<v Speaker 1>she is rock star mom. And it's not easy.

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>There's times I come home she's like, I've been here

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>for five days without you and I'm alone.

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:47.399
<v Speaker 4>It's a lot.

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:51.439
<v Speaker 1>And she's been my biggest support system, you know, she's

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 1>been my sounding board of Hey, what do you think

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 1>of this idea?

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 5>Do?

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>We almost like, you know, talking business things with her

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that probably no wife could be happen to be a

0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 1>part of.

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 2>And she's just been there. Man who manages nobody? You

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 2>still don't have it, So you're managing yourself.

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Still, I'm still managing myself. I don't have a booking agent.

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 1>It's just me and today, before I came I met

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>with the booking agent before I came here.

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Today don't give them ten percent, and so I don't

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>have all the power.

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't have anything. I don't have an agent.

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Except for everything. You have nothing except for everything. So

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 3>you are so base, you're so set now to have

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:34.280
<v Speaker 3>every leverage, on every piece of leverage in every situation

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 3>for the next at least eighteen months. Wow, that's why

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 3>a booking agent, any agents, you know, I have agents.

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 2>They take ten percent, right, Yeah, if I were you, yeah,

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 2>you can do it for six because I don't need

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 2>you don't need them. It would help, It would help

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for sure, it would. Yeah.

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:54.439
<v Speaker 1>And that's where I'm I'm at the point now where

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm tired of doing it all. I'm more

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 1>out and talk like conversations with fest and all that stuff.

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I have literally had like opening opportunities for artists

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 1>and fairs, and the buyer comes to me and says, well,

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>they don't want you on it because they want through

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 1>William Morris act on it. And William Morris is a

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>big booking agent that I was with for five years.

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 1>They let me go, and I'd be like, dude, I

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>was with them, and they're like, yeah, but you can't

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 1>play it because they want their small act to play it.

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:23.879
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna have to put you on a side

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:27.840
<v Speaker 1>free stage, and you're like, what the heck? So obviously

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.359
<v Speaker 1>agents hold weight that I need to be a part

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of that. But it's also like here, I've been alone

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>for five years and nobody is I've met tried to

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 1>be a part of agencies, and nobody wanted me, you know,

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't get any attention until I got top twenty.

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's when sorry, I'm probably not at least in

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:46.560
<v Speaker 1>so much dirty.

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Launcher right, love it. And for everybody listening, there's Cia,

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:53.800
<v Speaker 2>There's Well I was. I was with CAA for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. Yeah, there's William Morris. There's Uta. I'm with Uta.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, that's who I just met with right before I

0:46:58.719 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 4>came over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Who'd you meet with?

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 4>I met with all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Matthew Morgan, that was Zach Hartley had

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:08.399
<v Speaker 1>to go went really well.

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're great people.

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 3>I feel like, and again we're just talking in the

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 3>weeds here. I was with CIA for twelve years. Wow,

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, you know, my agent, who was

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 3>awesome at CIA had had risen in the rank so

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 3>much that she was like at the top of her genre.

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Because when I met her, we're both kids.

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I never had an agent.

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 3>My radio thing was going pretty good here as a

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 3>national show, but I was starting to do a little

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 3>bit of TV, and I was taking a little bit

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 3>of a risk and an agent that never had anybody,

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 3>and she was taking a risk is who the heck

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 3>represents somebody in radio with like a bad podcast and

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 3>wants to do TV.

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:51.879
<v Speaker 2>So we kind of took a risk on each other.

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 3>But she had blown up so much into in the

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 3>political world where she had all of these big political

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:03.439
<v Speaker 3>commentations and gotcha and it got to the point where

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 3>that was our specialty. And then there was you, and

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 3>then there was me, almost like the one person and

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 3>had a very difficult conversation, even for me because I

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 3>loved her.

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>We spent twelve You get very close.

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:17.400
<v Speaker 3>You do to conversations every week, yes, yeah, And I

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 3>was like, I we tried to supplement other people, but

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 3>unless it's your main person, it's tough.

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:23.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I have to open this up

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 2>and take meetings with people.

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 3>And even if I was going to stay with Caa,

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't stay with her because she was killing it

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 3>so much.

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:34.840
<v Speaker 2>She didn't she didn't have the capacity.

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, to take you on to do more things.

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to at least because she was so big in

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 3>living in the political space. So everybody comes to you

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 3>and I go and I meet with you Ta, And

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 3>I felt like those guys, guys and girls, but I

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 3>say guys about everybody. They were bold, like grinders. I

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:51.880
<v Speaker 3>could feel that today, like they weren't the biggest, but

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 3>they were big enough to be in the top category.

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Like they were big enough to be in that you know,

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Cia William wore not the biggest, but not the biggest,

0:48:59.040 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 3>William Moore's biggest hea.

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:02.720
<v Speaker 2>But I felt like they were gonna go hard.

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think one thing I've learned in this

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 1>whole like journey is that sometimes it doesn't matter the biggest,

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>like it matters who believes in you the most.

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can definitely get lost in the big. You

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 3>can get lost in the big, but you're exactly right.

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 3>It's who is so my agent at Uta, he he

0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 3>goes hard, who is your agent? But his name is Jerry, Jerry,

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 3>but Jerry is basically he does It's kind of weird

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 3>that just talked about somebody, but he does a lot

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 3>of sports people.

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 4>He has.

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Cow heard and he has rich eyesen and yeah, all

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 3>these massive but he was a fan of the show

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 3>or would listen to the show. But he like puts

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 3>all of his effort. That's what you want, that's all,

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 3>that's all you can ask for, that's all.

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm so.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so happy that you've had to go through all

0:49:57.200 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 3>of this struggle because now you you have, you have

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:02.320
<v Speaker 3>every weapon.

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 4>Man, Well thank you for that.

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 2>And wow, I'm I'm the biggest fan.

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:07.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean, thanks man.

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>And like I said, this was always, you know how

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.319
<v Speaker 1>dream of having number one when I moved here. I've

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:13.480
<v Speaker 1>always dreamed of doing an.

0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Interview with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thanks man. Have we ever done anything together? Never didn't.

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:19.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think so. But sometimes people feel like, come on, man,

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 2>been twenty fourteen, we stood six feet from each other.

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 3>You're like on my stream Foregner, And I'm like, I'm

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 3>very sorry. No, I think nobody cares about me. So

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm not like looking around being like, what's up everybody?

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, you're You're one of the most influential people

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:35.800
<v Speaker 1>in Nashville, and so like just being here and talking

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>to you and just being able to tell my story.

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 1>This has been a dream of mine. And you know,

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>since I started this and started climbing the ranks. I

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, man if I could just tell my story

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to somebody and get it out, you know.

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 2>So you're managing yourself.

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're booking myself.

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Yourself. Yep, you're well labeling yourself. The good thing is

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 3>you probably have a three sixty deal with yourself.

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Dude.

0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, get you get a little portion of your mirg

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah a little Porsche has this with all the money

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 3>that you've invested. I mean, like, are you doing all right?

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm doing great, you know.

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I think what's interesting is, like I was telling

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>everybody earlier, of labels don't make money on radio, writers do.

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I wrote daughter, So what I'm envisioning is, yes, it's

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 1>costing me to send this song to radio, but I'm

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 1>going to get that back because I own the writer's share,

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:28.839
<v Speaker 1>so that that payment is always like six months behind,

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 1>seven eight months behind. And so I'm envisioning of Okay,

0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 1>yes it cost me X, but I can make X back.

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.320
<v Speaker 1>But also, you know, instead of going out and making

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 1>very little money, you know, with a number one record,

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you can go out and be like, Okay, now I'm

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>worth a little a lot more, you know. And so

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.240
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm envisioning. Okay, yes, I had to invest

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 1>in myself, but now I'm going to get the agent.

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 2>How many writers on that song?

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<v Speaker 4>Three of us?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you talked to any management or do you want

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:55.840
<v Speaker 2>to management company?

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I do, yeah, and I have talked to some to

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:01.360
<v Speaker 1>some managers and those conversations are starting to go.

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Really really well. That's a very delicate relationship.

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 3>And for those listening again, let's just going and I'll

0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:10.920
<v Speaker 3>weed out on everybody. So here's the difference. Because I

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:12.319
<v Speaker 3>did not know the difference till I had to start

0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 3>getting agents and managers.

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I literally knew no difference.

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:18.840
<v Speaker 3>And when people would talk about them, I'd be like,

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 3>who cares? Yeah, Like when somebody i'd like to think

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:21.840
<v Speaker 3>my manager will be like, what's it?

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 4>What's that doing?

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't care? And what's the difference to that an

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 2>agent and I don't care? But so.

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<v Speaker 3>An agent is the person who is basically booking out

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 3>looking for jobs to book for you. Now they're in

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:39.399
<v Speaker 3>the development a bit as well, but they're out trying

0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:42.280
<v Speaker 3>to book you work. They're out putting your name in places,

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:43.799
<v Speaker 3>getting you in front of.

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:45.479
<v Speaker 4>People, putting you on tour days.

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they have.

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Maybe ten twelve clients that they're agenting four on different levels.

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 2>A manager is in most cases a much more personal thing.

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. They every aspect of your everything.

0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I took my executive producer of my radio show, Morgan,

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, hey, I want you to go

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:08.239
<v Speaker 3>and leave the radio show and manage me because she

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 3>was doing she was awesome. I was doing radio, but

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I wanted her and like I was writing books and

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:15.040
<v Speaker 3>I was doing TV and I was doing you know, podcasts,

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:17.640
<v Speaker 3>and so I took her out of that job and

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 3>I put herself as my manager. And so, but that's

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.359
<v Speaker 3>a very personal relationship because we've been together for I mean,

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I went and spoke at a college at MTSU.

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 2>She emailed the address. She was my assistant. I know,

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 2>my intern.

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 4>That's awesome.

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Then like my fake assistant. She knows your whole business everything,

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:39.759
<v Speaker 3>and she's as consistent and she's loyal to wanting the

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 3>best for me.

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 2>She's not always loyal to my thoughts because she knows

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I'm an idiot.

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so she'll definitely push back. But the management thing

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 3>is so every day and everything.

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Everything, Yeah, and it's like so that's a very delicate thing.

0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>And it's also like, you don't want to just find

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody because now you're having success and they're just going

0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:01.760
<v Speaker 1>to jump in. You want somebody to that's gonna build

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 1>with you, you know. You want somebody that's gonna be like, hey,

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 1>when there's hard times, which everybody has hard times, they're

0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:10.360
<v Speaker 1>not just gonna ditch and run like they're in it

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:12.399
<v Speaker 1>with you. You know, they're not gonna just be like, oh,

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I have five other clients, Drew, you go do your thing,

0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and I wanna I'm gonna be good over here, you know.

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>And so it's a very that's a more delicate thing.

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 1>And I've had some really good conversations with some great people,

0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm really excited about that because here's the deal.

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Like I was telling you, I'm a I'm a father,

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:29.279
<v Speaker 1>like I got a seventeen month old. So last thing

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to be is on phone calls eight or

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 1>nine o'clock at night, trying to talk to shows or

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to you know, send assets over to a venue

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:42.319
<v Speaker 1>that needs it. Like all those things that managers can

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:45.279
<v Speaker 1>be doing, I want them to be doing it. But

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but like you said, you know, right now, we've been

0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:51.840
<v Speaker 1>very lucky that I own this stuff. And if you

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 1>start giving all those percentages away, it becomes a lot

0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:57.400
<v Speaker 1>harder to fund a label, It becomes harder to do

0:54:57.520 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff.

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 4>And so it's interesting, right Yet I had a.

0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:04.479
<v Speaker 1>Meeting probably seven months ago with them, and I haven't

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>who'd you meet with? That was a guy named Tom Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>My manager?

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Is it?

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Really?

0:55:09.480 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 4>That's amazing how they go. I like him, I like

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 4>him a lot.

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 3>But so they didn't they call you back away? They'll

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 3>begin a call for me, don't you worry? Oh dude,

0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 3>well please, they'll begin They'll be in a call for me, please.

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 4>That would be huge.

0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Like Morgan and Tom are my direct managers, that would

0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 2>be I mean, man, think it may not work out,

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:28.239
<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna call him ra after this and be like,

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 2>you're this guy's story.

0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Man. That means the world to me.

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:34.440
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't even matter. It honestly doesn't even matter to me.

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:38.960
<v Speaker 3>What you sound like, what your songs are hearing, how

0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 3>you work.

0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I think that's inspiring because you're good at what you do. Right.

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:45.080
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people are pretty good to goo to

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:46.839
<v Speaker 2>what do they do? But a lot of people get

0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:51.960
<v Speaker 2>told no or this won't work, and you basically just

0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:52.919
<v Speaker 2>took that as a nott right.

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Now, Yeah, well I think going I let the nose drive,

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, well you know you're telling me no.

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:02.399
<v Speaker 1>Now I'll show you like I want to get there.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:16.400
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<v Speaker 2>What we should do.

0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 3>I should call Tom and be like, hey, you should

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 3>call Drew Baldridge back, like I really believe in this dude.

0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:31.680
<v Speaker 3>And then when he calls you big time, big time,

0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 3>he'll be like I called him, man, and he never

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:34.279
<v Speaker 3>called me back.

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:36.360
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, uh, have you talked to him? Have

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 2>you talked to him before? I didn't know if you

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 2>guys ever talked Well yeah, like seven months ago. Well

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 2>you messed it up then, you dummy. That would be awesome,

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:43.520
<v Speaker 2>that's hilarious.

0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:47.240
<v Speaker 4>Well, like I said, I loved Tom. His hang is awesome.

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:50.800
<v Speaker 1>But it just, you know, there wasn't like kind of

0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 1>how I felt with the labels, like hey, I met

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:54.399
<v Speaker 1>with you and I like you a lot and everything's great,

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and then just silence. Yeah, yeah, what's your label called

0:56:57.320 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 1>lyric Ridge? So bald Ridge obviously, and then my son's

0:57:00.640 --> 0:57:04.160
<v Speaker 1>name is Lyric, so Lyric Ridge Records. Got it.

0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:09.000
<v Speaker 2>You have a song with Bailey, multiple songs of Bailey.

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:11.759
<v Speaker 4>I've written songs for Bailey, for Bailey. Yeah. So me

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 4>and Bailey grew up twenty minutes from each other. I

0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 4>saw his TikTok.

0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Is he younger than you?

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:16.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a lot. He's probably like third or nine

0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 1>years yeah, thirteen years old. So so funny story about Bailey.

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:24.960
<v Speaker 1>He grew up in Lewisville, down the road from me.

0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I saw, Well, I didn't see it. I got I

0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 1>got a message from somebody back home was like, hey,

0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:33.640
<v Speaker 1>there's another kid trying to do it, And so I

0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:36.000
<v Speaker 1>watched his video and I was like, dude's got a

0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:38.800
<v Speaker 1>cool voice, you know. And so I was like, man,

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:41.439
<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have had somebody that I could

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:43.800
<v Speaker 1>have just really called on as an artist friend when

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I first moved to town. So I just shot him

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:49.480
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and said, hey, Bud Drew, here's my number.

0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>You ever need anything, you really want to do this,

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 1>call me. And it wasn't three minutes later.

0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, Drew Bater talking to you. I can't

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 4>believe you're on here. Man, like, so cool, thanks for

0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 4>sending me your number. So I'm talking. I was like, dude,

0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 4>you really want to do this. He's like yeah.

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, come to Nashville. Let's write songs. I mean,

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 1>it's COVID. We'll just write in my house.

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:07.479
<v Speaker 4>So he came down. We started writing songs.

0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:09.400
<v Speaker 1>He had a friend named Gavin Lucas who was also

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 1>in his in his h in his hometown, and we

0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 1>started writing songs out of my out of my living room,

0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it was just wow, I've never seen anything

0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 1>happen so fast for somebody. And you know, he was

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 1>calling me the next week. He's like, hey, man, Warner

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 1>wants me to have a meeting with him. And mind you,

0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 1>at this time, I am like trying so hard and

0:58:32.120 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this kid's coming in here getting meeting with Warner.

0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:36.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, and I'm so happy for you.

0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Got to be happy and sad at the same time.

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:40.520
<v Speaker 2>That's okay because you can have two emotions about something.

0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm so pumped for him. And then he was like,

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I got a dilemma. Man, there's a guy here and

0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 1>he wants to manage me too. He's like, I can't

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.040
<v Speaker 1>have a record label and a manager can I.

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:52.920
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, dude, that's exactly what you need.

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:54.760
<v Speaker 1>And so he ended up signing with them and it's

0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 1>just been history and it's just been so fun to

0:58:57.400 --> 0:59:01.640
<v Speaker 1>watch him go with from Braces and working on you know,

0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:03.760
<v Speaker 1>pipeline and.

0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:06.200
<v Speaker 4>Trucks and trucks and trucks. Yeah.

0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:08.160
<v Speaker 1>He had a big following on social media because of

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 1>his trucks. Yeah, and he was like at that time

0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 1>he came to my house, he was only singing for

0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:15.040
<v Speaker 1>four months. You know, he's never sang his whole life,

0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and he just started singing songs and it started working

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:20.600
<v Speaker 1>for him. And then to watch here we are now

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:22.360
<v Speaker 1>he's selling seven eight thousand tickets a night.

0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 4>Like, what a great story.

0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:28.560
<v Speaker 1>And I tell you what Bailey, for what he's had

0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 1>to go through of fast stardom like that can wreck

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:35.640
<v Speaker 1>a person. I've seen it since being here for thirteen years.

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 1>In a couple of weeks, I've been here for thirteen years.

0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:41.960
<v Speaker 1>He's handled it really well, you know, just like keeping

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a level head and even when people have said nasty

0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:47.720
<v Speaker 1>things on social media about him and they don't even

0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>know him, and he's just been the same, good dude.

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:51.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, positive through it all.

0:59:52.640 --> 0:59:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I believe in Mike.

0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:55.120
<v Speaker 3>You can fact check me. I believe we were the

0:59:55.160 --> 0:59:57.480
<v Speaker 3>first person. I don't say this in like a braggy way,

0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 3>but we got bail, We got him really fresh. I

1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 3>think we're the first.

1:00:01.200 --> 1:00:03.400
<v Speaker 4>Interview ever first, it probably will ever.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love the kid came out. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There was something about him when he came in, and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember telling Mike I was like, I don't know,

1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I like even he was like, yeah, it's just this

1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:19.240
<v Speaker 2>is just happening. He wasn't like hiding from it or

1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:23.240
<v Speaker 2>like downplaying it. He knew yeah, and he would be like,

1:00:23.280 --> 1:00:24.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I ran out on a catwalking. I never

1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:26.280
<v Speaker 2>realized you couldn't run and sing.

1:00:26.640 --> 1:00:28.760
<v Speaker 3>And he was like telling all these stories about how

1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:32.840
<v Speaker 3>he'd never performed before. And I like, I really liked

1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:35.440
<v Speaker 3>him and him and I've kept definitely kept a relationship

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<v Speaker 3>of and I would tell him, if you ever get

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<v Speaker 3>in trouble, like Bailey and I grew up very very similar. Yeah,

1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:44.600
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, if you ever get in trouble,

1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:46.840
<v Speaker 3>you can call me. It doesn't matter where you are.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome because you're going to have people And first

1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:52.360
<v Speaker 2>of all, you're going to make bad decisions.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you're like.

1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Young and rich now yeah, and that's just going to happen.

1:00:59.400 --> 1:01:03.280
<v Speaker 3>That's you're young, rich, good looking, you're talented. Yeah, so

1:01:03.440 --> 1:01:05.320
<v Speaker 3>you got to limit those bad decisions. You're going to

1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:07.480
<v Speaker 3>make some bad ones. And I just am like, do

1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:08.680
<v Speaker 3>not get anybody pregnant?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he hasn't and he had good Hey right,

1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:14.000
<v Speaker 4>good so far. Yeah. I love him though.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's you're right though. He has had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>come fast.

1:01:18.760 --> 1:01:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Faster than almost anybody in our business ever because he

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<v Speaker 1>was the TikTok all that stuff. But it really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you go from just just put this out here in

1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:30.680
<v Speaker 1>people's minds right now wherever you're listening to this. You're

1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:32.600
<v Speaker 1>a small town first, maybe you're an artist, I don't know,

1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and you're thinking, man, I want to be a singer,

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<v Speaker 1>and then one year you're on tour with Morgan Wall

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand people. Can you imagine like going from singing

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<v Speaker 1>in your garage to fifty thousand people and just expecting

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<v Speaker 1>to be every note correct, every not to be nervous?

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a big thing for a while, because he

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<v Speaker 3>would perform and he would be right or he'd be

1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:56.360
<v Speaker 3>but it's like, dude, he's hype. You're you're watching and

1:01:56.440 --> 1:02:00.560
<v Speaker 3>you're also watching a kindergartener perform at college like call graduation.

1:02:00.840 --> 1:02:03.400
<v Speaker 3>As far as like the matura maturation process of being

1:02:03.400 --> 1:02:05.000
<v Speaker 3>the artist. Everybody else got to do it in bars

1:02:05.360 --> 1:02:07.800
<v Speaker 3>and got to do it slowly, getting better as they

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<v Speaker 3>and he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't did the reps.

1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:12.640
<v Speaker 1>He got thrown into the fu and it's like, hey, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>your first tour you ever do sold out every night

1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know he he came and he performed on our show

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<v Speaker 3>and no no effect. And I made a point to

1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:24.560
<v Speaker 3>say this, we're not putting any vocal effects on him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you're getting about to hear Is Bailey perform and

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<v Speaker 3>he was really good. Yeah he's great, and so I think, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Who cares about the eight percent of people that are idiots?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to give them too much power. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's I want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about you. Look, we spent an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like I could talk to you for

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<v Speaker 3>another hour. I have to go obviously work out.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, I got stay fit, me getting buff, like like

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<v Speaker 2>right now, it doesn't just come by doing no work.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm really rooting for you, I really am.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a that is a great story, that that

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<v Speaker 2>inspires me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks man. And I was talking to somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>ran that like knows the chart really really well. There's

1:03:01.120 --> 1:03:03.320
<v Speaker 1>kind him Chris Owen, who knows the chart really well.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always tagging everybody in post and.

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<v Speaker 3>I he, oh yeah, Chris, yeah, yeah, he like works

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<v Speaker 3>in New York. You used working a little radio station,

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<v Speaker 3>did hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeahs working in little I think. Now he's somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville working for some year. Now yeah he's here now,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah. And so I shot him a message because

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<v Speaker 1>he said, you know, we're top twenty. It's Drew's every

1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:20.200
<v Speaker 1>first top twenty. And I say the message, like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>has there ever been an artist is self fund independently

1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:25.400
<v Speaker 1>a number one record? He me right back, He's like,

1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:28.840
<v Speaker 1>there's been three, There's been Kenny Rogers, by her Rose,

1:03:29.360 --> 1:03:31.360
<v Speaker 1>there was Tracy Lawrence. Find out who your friends are,

1:03:31.960 --> 1:03:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and there's been uh Garth Brooks. Ask me how I

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<v Speaker 1>know because he had that Pearl label.

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<v Speaker 4>And he hit me right back. He's like, you would

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<v Speaker 4>be the if you have a number one.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be the first artist in the history of country

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<v Speaker 1>music to self fund their first number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I was like, holy crap, have you met him?

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<v Speaker 4>Never met him?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't met him either, just on Instagram, Like, we

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<v Speaker 2>should get him and Drew, or we should just do

1:03:53.800 --> 1:03:57.600
<v Speaker 2>a podcast like talking. I mean of this podcast like talking,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm so.

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<v Speaker 3>Interested in this version and I feel like I can

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<v Speaker 3>learn a lot from hearing somebody who's gone through it,

1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:06.800
<v Speaker 3>and then somebody like him who has studied it.

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<v Speaker 2>For so long.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then somebody who's kind of like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>really in it, but I'm definitely around it and can

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<v Speaker 3>influence it or be influenced by it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that'd be real fun to come back with.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I think, like what you do and what your

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<v Speaker 1>show is for artists and things like that is such

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<v Speaker 1>a it matters so big, Like when Bobby bones your

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<v Speaker 1>name in this town, your name on, you support a single,

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<v Speaker 1>you do whatever, you change artist's.

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<v Speaker 2>Life like that, and I clip that rate. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I know you're so humble, Bobby, just

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<v Speaker 1>talking this is like our first time ever meeting and

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<v Speaker 1>just hanging out with you or such. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a small town dude i'd hang out with back home,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I just want you to know that,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know it could be easily looked over. But

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<v Speaker 1>like you get behind an artist, you do whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>have them on your show. Even that amount of reach

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<v Speaker 1>for an artist's song or whatever, they probably ump up

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<v Speaker 1>in the iTunes chart the same day because you're reaching

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<v Speaker 1>what you're you know, in.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair the iTunes charts like ten downloads at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Very true, who's even listening to that?

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<v Speaker 4>Very true?

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<v Speaker 2>We can dominate the iTunes. But I bet I bet you.

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<v Speaker 1>Could see whoever you have on your show, and Mike

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<v Speaker 1>probably see this, whoever you have on your show. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be interested to go that day and check out their

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<v Speaker 1>streams and see if there's a bump.

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<v Speaker 3>There's definitely situations. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, we have a

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<v Speaker 3>big audience audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. When I get to pick a wall court, you

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<v Speaker 2>still move around pretty good?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I freaking come over and feature book.

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<v Speaker 2>How far do you live from here?

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<v Speaker 4>I live in Brentwood. I'm right down street.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you are?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it took me like five minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd love that I mean, you're a veteran. You've

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<v Speaker 3>been playing since like thirty grade. Yeah, so who knew

1:05:43.040 --> 1:05:48.200
<v Speaker 3>it was like the national sport of pato. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be I'll be paying a lot of attention to

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<v Speaker 3>this now. I again, I don't generally I like doing

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<v Speaker 3>this version because it's an hour long. This podcast is

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<v Speaker 3>really good. People like long form conversation. I can invest

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<v Speaker 3>in a person. I feel like a person that we're

1:06:05.480 --> 1:06:07.120
<v Speaker 3>sitting across can invest in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we can get into the weeds.

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<v Speaker 3>But I rarely am just like lit up like I

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<v Speaker 3>am now during this conversation. And I did not expect

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<v Speaker 3>to be. I was like, oh, let's see what this

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<v Speaker 3>is about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, generic person comes by for generic chat,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is this is real good.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Follow Drew on Instagram, Drew Baldridge Music, same thing on

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok or go to Drew Baldridge music dot com. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna make a call and it may not turn

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<v Speaker 3>into anything, but I'm gonna call my guy and be like, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to Drew dude.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>If it doesn't work out, great and maybe you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want anybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I'm to the point now where I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>You're fighting somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, because it's just it's getting too much. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to make sure I'm a good husband

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<v Speaker 1>and a good you know, father, and so it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta have time to do some of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, man, right now, I feel like my time

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<v Speaker 1>is being sucked pretty. I mean, you're you get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably times crazy too, but it's just like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a good problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never i haven't been here, so I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be like take advantage of where we're at and

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<v Speaker 1>get a really good team.

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<v Speaker 3>And final question, would you ever quit being an artist

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<v Speaker 3>to run a late to run your own label if

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<v Speaker 3>it was like pop?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you ever go? Or do you have that you

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<v Speaker 2>just got to make.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had so many people ask and I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to be My songs would just have

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<v Speaker 1>to just immediately suck and not work. Because I love playing,

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<v Speaker 1>I love being on stage. I love connecting connecting with people.

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<v Speaker 1>I love writing songs that mean a lot, like She's

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's daughter, the stories that I get, the messages I

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<v Speaker 1>get about what this song means to the people.

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<v Speaker 4>I want that, I want to connect.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been writing song since I was sixteen and dreaming

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<v Speaker 1>of this moment of having a song that meant something.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have to be I'd have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot older and be like, hey, I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing music anymore. But I don't see that happen. I

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<v Speaker 1>love playing freaking the opry. I want to be on

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<v Speaker 1>a big tour. I've never played stadiums, I never played areenas,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to do that, you know, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine, like right now, that's not in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>If I will work my own thing and maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>friend along the way if that happens.

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<v Speaker 4>But right now, music, baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, we should plan a round table. Get me, Eddie,

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<v Speaker 3>Drew and Chris It never met, Chris, never met Drew

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<v Speaker 3>until today. Meet and Chris after seven years, Me too,

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<v Speaker 3>same thing, Drew.

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<v Speaker 4>Good to see Buddy, good to see man.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.