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Speaker 1: The song comes out Friday, right, it jumps up on

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Speaker 2: Episode four fifty seven with Drew Baldridge.

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Speaker 3: He has a song called She's Somebody's Daughter that's currently

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Speaker 3: Top twenty, and it's his first ever top twenty, which

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Speaker 3: I was surprised to hear. And it's his first ever

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Speaker 3: top forty, is what he said, right, yep. But his

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Speaker 3: whole story of how he got here, I did not

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Speaker 2: His name is Drew Baldridge.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna shut up and let you hear it

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Speaker 3: because it's an awesome story. I'm not crazy, right, No,

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Speaker 3: It's an awesome story.

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Speaker 3: I kind of just kind of waded into it not

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Speaker 2: Two hours with this guy. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Drew Baldridge Follow him on Instagram Drew Baldridge Music. Check

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Speaker 3: out his music, go buy his merch He you know,

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Speaker 3: worked on a farm. It's a family farm of Potokio, Illinois.

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Speaker 3: And next thing you know, he's here. Next thing you know, well,

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Speaker 3: all this happens here. He is Drew Baldridge. True.

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Speaker 2: How's it going?

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Speaker 4: Buddy?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 4: Buddy, how are you good?

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Speaker 2: Are you a sports fan?

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Speaker 4: Huge sports fan?

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Speaker 2: What is your thought on why? Because I have a thought?

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Speaker 3: What is your thought on why there are so many

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Speaker 4: Oh man?

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Speaker 2: Or maybe there's no correlation at all.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's also like the hard work

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Speaker 2: You were gambling on the water on a boat. But

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Speaker 2: That's funny. What was what was home like for you?

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Speaker 4: Parents together? Yeah, I was very blessed man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, their concerts Verizon Wireless, you know, Amphitheater, I don't

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Speaker 3: It was like I got a little chill you hearing that,

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Speaker 3: It could be something you wear, something you do, or

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Speaker 2: That's freaking cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I haven't really told anybody that story, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll never forget it.

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Speaker 4: Nobody tip me, but.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever hear Josh's stories about going to Willie

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Speaker 2: Come on in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you opened the door and let him in, Oh

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Ronnie Done did.

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Speaker 2: How wild is that? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean talking about your heroes. I mean, yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: Don't have Josh's number.

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Speaker 1: We've played several shows after that together, you know, we

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Speaker 4: He was like, man, I'm just I did live out here,

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Speaker 2: And he's like the normal guy, Josh. Yeah, Like it

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Speaker 1: They say, don't meet your heroes, but he was so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he was Josh even more normal than you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you just think this here, this big voice

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Speaker 3: And he must have so much testosterone his body to

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Speaker 2: So you lived to Nashville at nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Always really proud of myself and learning and studying kind

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Speaker 1: just sang songs, you know, Like I looked at Toby Keith.

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Speaker 1: He learned the business, had a great business mind, and

448
00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,199
Speaker 1: that was something that I really wanted to dive in

449
00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:55,880
Speaker 1: and learn into.

450
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Speaker 2: First concert was it the Toby concert?

451
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Speaker 4: It was, yeah, it took you to that.

452
00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,480
Speaker 1: My mom and dad took me to that, and Toby

453
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,720
Speaker 1: was one and then another. Craig Morgan was like my

454
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,920
Speaker 1: second concert. I think that there was this place in Effingham, Illinois.

455
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever heard of that sound

456
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,760
Speaker 1: watched Craig Morgan there. I'll never forget Craig forgot the

457
00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,720
Speaker 1: words to uh International Harvester, and that was my favorite

458
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,000
Speaker 1: song at the time, and I just thought it was

459
00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,320
Speaker 1: hilarious how he handled it, you know, and just like

460
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Speaker 1: you couldn't get to put a flour and I was

461
00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,480
Speaker 1: just like, oh my gosh, people, they're human, you know,

462
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:33,440
Speaker 1: I forgot the words.

463
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Craig Man. That guy's awesome.

464
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Speaker 3: I was looking at the chart success of your current

465
00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,159
Speaker 3: song She's Somebody's Daughter. I did not know is this

466
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Speaker 3: what is your highest charting song?

467
00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:46,320
Speaker 4: Is this this?

468
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,199
Speaker 2: Oh? It is?

469
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never had a top forty.

470
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Speaker 2: Oh I didn't. I did not know that.

471
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Speaker 3: I just suspected you've had in the most complimentary way.

472
00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,240
Speaker 3: I'll say I suspected you had a couple.

473
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Speaker 4: Oh man, well, thank you for saying that. But in here forever.

474
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,399
Speaker 3: Super congratulations, Thanks man. But what stuck out to me was,

475
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,359
Speaker 3: and you can define what this means. I was reading

476
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 3: that you were a bit self funded.

477
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 4: All of it. Yeah, real self.

478
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 1: Well, She's Somebody's Daughter came out in twenty nineteen. I

479
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 1: wrote it about my wife. It did nothing, It sit

480
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Speaker 1: there I wanted. I was part of a label called

481
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Speaker 1: Cold River Independent.

482
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 3: So who owned that label? Guy named Peedle heron okay,

483
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,160
Speaker 3: So do they have anybody else?

484
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,119
Speaker 1: They had Katie Arminger her name, yeah, okay, And so

485
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 1: we had a couple songs came out. A song called

486
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,719
Speaker 1: Rebound did pretty well for us. Nothing ever top forty.

487
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 1: We got to forty two, I think was our highest song.

488
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I did all the radio tour, I

489
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 1: met everybody, all the things. And that label closed down

490
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, right around the sign I put this

491
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 1: song out and luckily Praise the Lord, like that was

492
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 1: gonna be my single. But I'll never forget I sang

493
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 1: the vocals of She's Somebody's Daughter. I go out and

494
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Speaker 1: sit in my car, I pull up my email and

495
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 1: on Country air Check, which is for everybody out there,

496
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 1: it's like a tells radio everything that's going on. There

497
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,199
Speaker 1: was a girl named to Neil Towns that had a

498
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: song called Somebody's Daughter going for.

499
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 2: Ads Somebody is God, and I.

500
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Speaker 1: Was like, you gotta be freaking kidding me. You know,

501
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,919
Speaker 1: this is my favorite song. So I just it just

502
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 1: sit there on It did nothing. And then me and

503
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: my wife got married in twenty one and I made

504
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Speaker 1: a wedding version so she could dance to it with

505
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Speaker 1: her dad.

506
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Speaker 2: Wait two years, it's set, nineteen to twenty.

507
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Speaker 1: One, nineteen to twenty one, it's set. It did nothing,

508
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 1: and it was on Spotify, but it just no. I

509
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,919
Speaker 1: didn't really talk about it, did nothing with it. And

510
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 1: then twenty one we got married. I on our honeymoon,

511
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: I posted TikTok and I just say, hey, if this

512
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Speaker 1: gets three thousand likes, i'll put it out on Friday,

513
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to tease.

514
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Speaker 4: It was Wednesday.

515
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Speaker 1: I woke up Thursday and I had almost ten million

516
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,959
Speaker 1: views and the video had a million likes, and I

517
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I'm crying, and me and

518
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 1: my wife are dancing in our little condo, and I'm thinking.

519
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Speaker 2: Rewind that for a second.

520
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do your video saying I'm gonna put this

521
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 3: out now, being transparent is probably already gonna come out.

522
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: For plan Yeah, yeah, the song is already coming out,

523
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: but you just hope, Yeah, reaction happens, you know.

524
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: And so what day was this?

525
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 4: When this was a Wednesday night?

526
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 2: So Wednesday night you make the video?

527
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah in my rental car, like, not extravagant at all.

528
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 1: I said, my wife danced to this at our wedding

529
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Speaker 1: last week. If you guys like it, it's coming out Friday.

530
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Speaker 2: And how was it positioned? Are you sitting in the

531
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Speaker 2: car and you turned the radio up and you played

532
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Speaker 2: over the top or are you singing.

533
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Speaker 4: I'm lip singing it? Got it?

534
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 2: Okay?

535
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 4: Yeah?

536
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 2: And then when did the ten million views happen? By

537
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Speaker 2: what day? Thursday?

538
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Speaker 4: By the next day?

539
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Speaker 1: That's crazy crazy, And mind you, I'm like, I don't

540
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: look all night because I haven't had a video do that,

541
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Speaker 1: you know. I'm just thinking, like I'm going to wake

542
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 1: up the next day. Obviously I'm with my wife. It's

543
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 1: our honeymoon. We're enjoying it, and I wake up and

544
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: I look at her and I'm like, wow, Katie, look

545
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 1: at this. And I pulled up and my followers jump

546
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: like one hundred thousand.

547
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Speaker 2: Did you think that something may be wrong with your

548
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: TikTok account? No, I was just like, holy freaking crap.

549
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know what was going on. I've never seen

550
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Speaker 2: a video do.

551
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Speaker 3: Even Like I've had some pretty successful videos, like if

552
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 3: I get half a million a night, I'm like, this

553
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 3: is awesome. I would think that there was something with

554
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 3: all on my TikTok. If I had ten million in

555
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 3: the night.

556
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just like, I've never seen it.

557
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

558
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: And you know that was early on in TikTok Land

559
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 1: twenty one. You know, they were kind of I feel

560
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: like they were letting videos go more than they were now.

561
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: And dude, you know, I started getting calls from some

562
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: mind you every label in Nashville is shut down, it's COVID.

563
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: Pretty well, music ain't really happening. It's kind of starting

564
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: to come back. But I started getting calls from LA

565
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: labels every day like, hey man, we see your cause.

566
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: The song comes out Friday, right, it jumps up on

567
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: streams because this video is reacting and uh, I don't

568
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: have a manager, I don't have a record label, I

569
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: don't have a booking agent at this time.

570
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 4: It's just me.

571
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: And this goes kaboom and I'm sitting here like what

572
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: do I do? I hope I get a record deal

573
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 1: and nobody, nobody calls, Like all La LA would would

574
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: take the call and they're like, hey, we want to

575
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: get Universal Nashville involved, and then we come to Nashville,

576
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: they kabash it. They would be like, no calls from Nashville.

577
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: Be Warner LA Electra. They would call, they'd be excited.

578
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: It'd get to Warner Nashville, Warner Nashville, w do nothing

579
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: with it.

580
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: Why do you think that is?

581
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 4: Man? I don't know.

582
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: The only thing that I can guess is I had

583
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: a shot, and I had three singles at radio and

584
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: none of them did anything. And I'm thinking, you know,

585
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: Nashville is kind of that town. If you get one shot.

586
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be shiny. You gotta take advantage of it.

587
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: You gotta take time, you gotta take advantage of that

588
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: shiny time. And if you don't get that, then they're

589
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: going to find the next shiny kid.

590
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 5: Hang tight, the Bobby cast will be right back and

591
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 5: we're back on the Bobby cast.

592
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: That would have been my theory too. And also is

593
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: before TikTok had this history of having some making, having

594
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: some worth and yeah, and the making not the making,

595
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 3: but the highlighting and labels investing in artists and then

596
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: them having success.

597
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

598
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: I mean at the same time this was happening, Priscilla

599
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: Block was having her moment, you know, Bailey Zereman was

600
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: having his moment.

601
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 4: Me and Bailey were real close.

602
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Speaker 1: He was from my hometown area, and you know, we were

603
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: talking about it and he was at that time he's

604
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: getting calls from some of the same people that I

605
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: were in LA and making it. And I was just

606
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: like it would I would go have these label meetings

607
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: and it would be like, well, we want to see

608
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: you do a million streams a week, and it's like, oh,

609
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: it's been out four months and it's got sixteen million streams.

610
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 4: That's a million a week. What else do you need

611
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: to see?

612
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: It's like, well, if you come here, it's going to

613
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: be eight months before we take you to radio.

614
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: They were looking for reasons to not do there were

615
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: binding reasons to not do it.

616
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and mind you like. I love a lot

617
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: of these people. I think they're good people, but I

618
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: just wanted a chance. I wanted a shot. And so

619
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I don't have anything. I decided to

620
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: post on socials and I say I'll play in anybody's

621
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: backyard that wants to have me because I don't.

622
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 4: I'm broke. I'm broke.

623
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel you.

624
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 1: And so I thought i'd get like five requests, and

625
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: so I get like twenty some thousand requests on TikTok.

626
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: For two years, I go play three hundred people's backyards,

627
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: just me and a guitar.

628
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 4: Show up. Hey, how's it gone. I'm drew, never knowing

629
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: what our setup was really and.

630
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: No way they would just fly to their house and

631
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: play in their backyard.

632
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 4: Play in their backyard. Yeah, I did like three hundred,

633
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 4: and some of them.

634
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: Just take whatever money they gave you.

635
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. It started off that way.

636
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: I'd be like, hey, whatever you could give me, and

637
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: then I was like, this is what I need. Because

638
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: there were some times I would lose on it, and

639
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: so I'd be like, this is what.

640
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 4: I really need.

641
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Two or three grand, pay for mym my tour manager,

642
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: and I will come play in your backyard for seventy

643
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: five minutes, play corn hole, eat barbecue.

644
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: I thought what you did for two years people houses

645
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: just play in the backyard.

646
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 4: Just play in their backyard.

647
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: Clip that clipped that we're gonna get ten million of

648
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: you tonight we post that.

649
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: Well, it was like there was a stint after I

650
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: got married. After our honeymoon, I fly home, my tour

651
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: manager picks me up in my sprinter van and we

652
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: go play twenty backyards in nineteen days.

653
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 4: We went all around the country.

654
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Speaker 1: There was a day we played two shows and somebody

655
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: in different in that same town, in different people's backyards.

656
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: But we played twenty backyards in nineteen days. And mind you,

657
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. Everybody will have me. Hey, if this

658
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: is what I need to get there, They'd say yes,

659
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: I'd drive there, I'd fly there.

660
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 4: I'd go play it.

661
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: And you know, I would make little t shirts that

662
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: had their little hometown you know of you know, ma

663
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: scoot to Illinois instead of Saint Louis. It would put

664
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: that on the back of the shirt. I called it

665
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: the Baldridge and Bonfire Tour. And I just played three

666
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: hundred people's backyards.

667
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: Dang man, you are a winner.

668
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 4: Nah, man, it was just that's what I had to do, survive.

669
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: That's what winners do. That's what winners do. That is

670
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: one of the best stories that I have heard.

671
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: Man, Well, well, thank you for that.

672
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: And then it got I was doing these backyards and

673
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: I play my first festival, you know. Back I texted

674
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: some friends that were promoters and I was like, hey,

675
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't have an agent.

676
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 4: I'll give you a good deal, like, please let me play.

677
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: And they gave me a couple of fairs in twenty

678
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: three and I go play my first one and everybody

679
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: singing every word to She's Somebody's daughter. And I haven't

680
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: really like I knew it was having this moment, but

681
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: I haven't played for any people. I've been back. It's

682
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: been out since nineteen. It's been out since nineteen on

683
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: streaming platform.

684
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: Just sitting there.

685
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: But then when I when I made these videos, what

686
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: happened was I put my video out, then this one

687
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: girl start in twenty twenty one. She posted the video

688
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: was like her in the mirror and it said listen

689
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: to these lyrics girls, and then acted out the verses.

690
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: She's more than just a.

691
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: Pretty face in a late night bar to show her

692
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: in a bar. She's more than just a paratie jeans

693
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: sitting in her car, and she'd be sitting in her car. Well,

694
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: then the whole chorus is her growing up with her

695
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: dad pictures. And I would watch this video and I

696
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: had like, I don't know, five six million views brought

697
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: me to tear, so I just do edit it.

698
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 4: I was like, check this out.

699
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: And then it started this daughter trend and all these

700
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: girls from from Mexico to France to Norway to sweet

701
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: all these different languages.

702
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: Is bigger than the song. At that point, it was bigger.

703
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 4: Than the song. It was dad and it was dad

704
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 4: and daughter.

705
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: And then that happened for about six months, and then

706
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: Father's Day ish or something came around where one girl

707
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: did a duet of her video with her dad's reaction

708
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: that got ten million views, and then all those videos

709
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: started doing their dad's reaction.

710
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: Would you see the effect on streaming from when TikTok

711
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: was blowing up with yours?

712
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 2: And you would see it.

713
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: But then when these new versions we'll call them, these

714
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: new viral yeah movements would happen.

715
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 4: Every time you would see pops yeah.

716
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: And luckily I own that you know, like it was

717
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: my little song that could, and every time new virality happened,

718
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: I would see tick up and then you know, like

719
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: I said, fast forward twenty twenty three, here we are

720
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: playing the show.

721
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: I get off stage.

722
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm kind of frustrated at this moment because I'm like,

723
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: what else do I got approved to Nashville that I

724
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: deserve to be on a record label that I want

725
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: to tour with people, I want to have an agent,

726
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: And I look.

727
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: I start googling.

728
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: I start not googling by going to my artist Spotify

729
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: because you could see back in.

730
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: How many streams.

731
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: I start counting up as like, dude, this has a

732
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: song has one hundred million streams and it's done. There's

733
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: been no money involved, like pushing songs up. It's just

734
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: people finding it on TikTok and are Facebook or Instagram.

735
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: And I decided I got off. I got off the

736
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: stage and I just started calling radio. I said, hey,

737
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: I got this song. I think I'm going to try

738
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: to do it myself. Would you play it?

739
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: Dude?

740
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: I think you're going to miss out on a lot

741
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: of streams if you don't bring it to radio. Then

742
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: I woud ask radio. I'd be like who should I hire?

743
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: And they would tell me. So I just created my

744
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: own staff, paid for it on my own streams, with

745
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: my streams, and now we have a freaking top twenty.

746
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: Maybe this week might be top fifteen record.

747
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: Maybe my favorite story ever told. Oh my goodness, that

748
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: is that is that's the greatest. Like that is you grinding.

749
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: It didn't just happen for you, like you had to

750
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: do things for the fall in place, and then you

751
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: taking advantage of every little small opportunity that was fed

752
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: to you by the big amounts of work that you

753
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: were doing.

754
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: The fact that you would go and playing people's yards.

755
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: Well what started that yards was Okay, twenty nineteen, lose

756
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: my record deal. I just came off a radio tour.

757
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: And radio tour for everybody out there is like.

758
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: It's miserable.

759
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 4: It's tough.

760
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: You got to go into every freaking radio station and

761
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: act like every PD he's the coolest guy you ever

762
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: freaking met.

763
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's so hard. But I come off this

764
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: radio tour. The label closes, well, I have this song

765
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: that I put out at the same time as Daughter

766
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: was called Senior Year, and the hook of the song

767
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: said never thought it would disappear senior year. I just

768
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: meant live it up, kids, it's gonna go by fast. Well,

769
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty comes, all their senior years disappear, so it

770
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: starts having this TikTok thing. So what I do is

771
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: I get on TikTok and I'm like, hey, class of

772
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, I'm doing zoom concerts. Anybody wants a zoom concert,

773
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: I'll do it. So it was turning like seven or

774
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: eight zoom concerts today from my living room. I play

775
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: for like one hundred and fifty kids at a time,

776
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: and then some schools were like, will you come play

777
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: our graduation drive through?

778
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: And I was like, sit on my butt, yeah.

779
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: So then I created a tour where there would be

780
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: like Florida would call and be like, hey, we want

781
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: you to come play our drive through graduation. So then

782
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: I would look around surrounding areas and I would cold

783
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: call front schools at their front office.

784
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: And be like, Hey, I'm Drew Baldridge.

785
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,239
Speaker 1: I see your graduation is on July seventeenth, and I'm

786
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: going to be in town on the eighteenth. Do you

787
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: want me to come play your graduation? And then it

788
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: would be like are you like no, you're a creep,

789
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, and and be like somebody like I can't

790
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: believe we're talking to you.

791
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, please come play the graduation.

792
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: So I started playing graduations and then that's what gave

793
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: me the idea to play backyards. It's like, well, I'm

794
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: playing for schools. Why don't I just take it to

795
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: the people and see if that works?

796
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, it'd be so frustrating to not get that.

797
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: And it's not the most important thing. I say it too,

798
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: but it does matter, like that respect from like your

799
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: peers or like the town that you live in, like

800
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: you do want that. It's not the main it's why

801
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: we moved here, but it's nice to have people that

802
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: you work alongside acknowledge.

803
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: That, hey, I'm doing pretty good too.

804
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: That would be difficult that you are killing it, but

805
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: no one will even look at.

806
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, man, I can't.

807
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how frustrating, how much sleep I

808
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: lost over and my poor wife just supporting me through

809
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: all this. But like going home and seeing all my

810
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: friends and my peers being uber successful, and I'm so

811
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: happy for them because I want that for them. We

812
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: moved here at the same time and I want them

813
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: to be successful, but also being like, I got this

814
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: song that's doing just what their song is.

815
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: Why am and I think it's a.

816
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Wedding version that really blew up, so they're thinking it

817
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: doesn't really fit our model. It's not radio, it's not

818
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: streaming because Spotify doesn't put me in one playlist until

819
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: last week.

820
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: Really, that's it's the first playlist I ever got.

821
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: That's the first time you're playlisted.

822
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: On She's Somebody's daughter. Really, it's all been natural. And

823
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: then since we got top twenty on country radio, Spotify

824
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: put me in a playlist this last week, so radio

825
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: is driven playlisting to start playlisting us, And I'm just like,

826
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: thank you Lord, finally.

827
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: Are you ever like? Who out there is against me?

828
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 4: That's what I feel like, man, I mean like I

829
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: feel like that.

830
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: Eddie and I would put out raging Eddiot's songs and

831
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: we get playlisted and I'd be like, I can't believe that,

832
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: and here you are killing it and you just now

833
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: got played. I mean, if I were you, I would

834
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, who out there's who's running this shoke?

835
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: That's what I feel like, you know, And that's when

836
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: I got to the point of like, screw it. If

837
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: nobody else believes in this like I do, why don't

838
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: I just try it myself?

839
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: You know?

840
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: And now it's been really fun to see that we're

841
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: top twenty, you know, maybe this week top fifteen, which

842
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: would be insane.

843
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: Never been here.

844
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: Before as a momentum. I know you're top twenty, but

845
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: it's still looking for soolid looks.

846
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: Incredible, that's all. It's exciting radio.

847
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: I think all these pds are excited for us because

848
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 1: we're kind of going against the machine a little bit,

849
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, we support that, we want to

850
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: go And I think what's been the most fun is

851
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: artist friends that have been where I've been, and I'm

852
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: not going to name any names, but artist friends that

853
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: have try to single at radio it didn't work, label

854
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: gave up on them.

855
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 4: I get to talk to them and talk.

856
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: About strategies of ways to get their music out and

857
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: help and you know, if we maybe we could take

858
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: a single Overlert.

859
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going to happen.

860
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: But it's just wild that that radio has supported this song.

861
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: I really think, man, I don't want to say it,

862
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: but I think we could get number one that would

863
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: be insane.

864
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: I don't know.

865
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: It's not everything, but just like been here for thirteen

866
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: years and never had a number one record or anything,

867
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: that's that would be really cool.

868
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

869
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 3: It's not everything, but it is a it is a

870
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: thing if you make that a goal. I mean, yeah,

871
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: it's not everything.

872
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it's a lot.

873
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: If that's a goal of yours, If it was always

874
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: to come to town and have a number one, then yeah,

875
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: that's not the pretty significant If it was always to

876
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 3: move to town and run a record label.

877
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not everything if you don't, but if you do, that.

878
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 4: Was a goal. That was a goal. Yeah, and I think, what.

879
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: Well, that wasn't your goal. I could have been anybody.

880
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: It's go.

881
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: I'll miss using them separately. Yeah, I think the last

882
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 3: thing you want to do is run a record label.

883
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: And you're freaking late.

884
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: Hold, I don't know how old you are.

885
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: Thirty two yeah, ye.

886
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: Starting to label at twenty nine, thirty thirty one years old,

887
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: that's probably not the plan.

888
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

889
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: And I was scared to death because there's you're putting

890
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: pumping money out right, because you got to radio, you

891
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: got to hire staff. I mean, for everybody out there,

892
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get two business on.

893
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: Everybody feel free too.

894
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, to run a staff, and

895
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: you know radio, you have to do ad bys. You

896
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: have to figure out I got to go play free shows,

897
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: you have.

898
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: To do ad byes. I don't know about that. I've

899
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 2: been out of the programming.

900
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: Part of radio forever, right, Yeah, So part of my

901
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 3: ignorance because I'm gonna.

902
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: Ask a couple questions I should Yeah.

903
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: People would think I would know the answer to yeah,

904
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 3: But I've never been in programming. I get paid to

905
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: do compelling content and I just play a song or

906
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 3: two if I like it.

907
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: Occasionally.

908
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 3: I have no real pro I program an a couple

909
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 3: of national shows, but that's it. So when you say

910
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: stuff like that, I don't even know what that means.

911
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: So like an ad by, you know, let's say your

912
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: business and you know radio runs on advice, But why.

913
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: Would you because I understand that, like people, I need

914
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 3: people to buy sponsorship on my radio show, but why

915
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 3: would you have to buy an add buy?

916
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:16,479
Speaker 1: So it just creates like I think also shows radio,

917
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: you're investing in radio, do.

918
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: They make they don't make you buy an ad by?

919
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: Do they or is it something that's like, hey, if

920
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 3: you do this.

921
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: I think it's a partnership.

922
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: You know, like hey, we want to see you invest

923
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: in radio, and you know vice versa.

924
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: Like local markets, you'd buy ads.

925
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 4: I would buy ads. Yeah, it's crazy.

926
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: So it would be like a thirty second ad of

927
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: like hey, there's Drew Baldridge and this is my song

928
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: She's Somebody's daughter, okay, and it would play like thirty

929
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: seconds of my single and go stream it and download it.

930
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: Now, I'll read some of those sometimes the people buy.

931
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: If I like the artist, it'll pay me.

932
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: But if I kind of have a policy where I

933
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: don't have to read this commercial for anything, I don't

934
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: want to, that's awesome.

935
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: So like when Bailey or you just mentioned Bailey's aught

936
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: to say it like Bailey puts out something. I like

937
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: Bailey and so and I like Bailey's music, and I'd

938
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: be like.

939
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: Hey, check out they check out the new from Bailey's

940
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: and the record came out, go check it out.

941
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: That type of thing. That's exactly what an ad by is.

942
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: And so his label had to pay.

943
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, that ad buy for so that would be something

944
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: on me that I now have to invest in that

945
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: and that's not cheap.

946
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: You're spending money on this, dude.

947
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in return? You know what's different with labels

948
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: now and radio? Sorry, I'm probably getting way too you.

949
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: No, I want to hear it because I'm learning too.

950
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 4: But labels only make money when songstream.

951
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: Look at you, you know about the label and the

952
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: radio bits the stream because you've had to.

953
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: I've had to learn it.

954
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: You've had to learn it. I'm taking a lesson. I

955
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: don't know.

956
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: Okay, let me break this down, please do So, labels

957
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: only make money when song stream and a song a

958
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: million streams on Spotify is about forty one hundred bucks.

959
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: A million streams on Apples about seventy five hundred bucks.

960
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: So let's say an artist.

961
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: To do that again with between the two forty forty.

962
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 1: One hundred bucks on Spotify and about seventy five hundred

963
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: on Apple.

964
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: Why are they different? Just?

965
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 4: I have no idea. Apple supports master owners better.

966
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: And so that's what's crazy is you know mind you

967
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: master ownership, you know, writers share is completely different. Master,

968
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: the person that owns the master makes the money. So

969
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: the labels are making printing money right now, and the

970
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: writers are.

971
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 2: Like making nothing, making nothing.

972
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 4: But here's what I think.

973
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: When what I've noticed is the big disjoint labels make

974
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: money when songstream Labels don't make money on radio because

975
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: the writer does, and so they only make money when

976
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: the song starts.

977
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: Streaming and from people hearing it on the radio.

978
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: People hearing it on the radio, but you don't get airplay,

979
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: like I'm just now getting daytime airplay and seeing my

980
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: streams jump top freaking twenty. So like I'm just now

981
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: starting to see that. So when labels are coming right now,

982
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: labels are going less and less, you have to see it.

983
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard this streaming story. We need to

984
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: have a streaming story before we go to radio because

985
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: they have to fund it. But when you sign a

986
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: record deal, you give my last record deal, eighty four

987
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: percent of my master was to the label.

988
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: So previous you having you as an art Yeah, you're

989
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: talking about what with the cold River? Yeah, and that

990
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 2: was a Coldstone creamery yeah, Colt still Creamery.

991
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

992
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: So it was like, okay, so I signed a record deal,

993
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm a new artist. I give eighty four percent of

994
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: my music to my label. I get sixteen. I have

995
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: to give four of my sixteen to my producer, so

996
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: I have twelve. So everything that a label puts into you.

997
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 4: You have to pay it back.

998
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: Right, So let's say I drop in one hundred and

999
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars on a record they've put in me

1000
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: and maybe some small radio tour. So I have to

1001
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: make that label a million dollars to pay back the

1002
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: one twenty because I only own twelve percent.

1003
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 4: And so what's really hard with that.

1004
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: Is because it doesn't count if you're making them money

1005
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: as part of their eighty six percent. That doesn't count, right,

1006
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: It only counts if you're making them part of that

1007
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: twelve percent.

1008
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you that's how you can pay back.

1009
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's freaking crazy. It would take forever to

1010
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: pay it back.

1011
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: You won't, and that's why artists tore their brains out

1012
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: because the only time you get money is when you're

1013
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: on stage, and so you don't. There's lots of artists

1014
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: maybe Taylor Swift now, but like lots of artists that

1015
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: will never see a dime because they're still in the red,

1016
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: you know, like they're not they're not refunded. And so

1017
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: that's what's crazy right now, is I think that artists.

1018
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: This shift in social media and this shift in artists

1019
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: now being able to own that master has changed the

1020
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: game drastically for labels, because hey, well I can put

1021
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: a song out She's somebody's daughter and not have a

1022
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: label and get a hundred million streams and I own that. Now,

1023
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't have to tour unless I want to and

1024
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: pick the markets that I want to. And I think

1025
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: artists are starting to see that, and I think the

1026
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: business is going to start changing drastically, and it already

1027
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: has of artists being like, oh man, you know, I

1028
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: can put this song out and make this money and

1029
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: streaming and see my watch my son play baseball in June,

1030
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: you know. Like I just think there's a big shift

1031
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 1: that's going to come, and it's already starting to happen

1032
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: of labels not needing that eighty four percent anymore because

1033
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: a it's really expensive to take songs to radio, so

1034
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: I get why they need a big chunk of it.

1035
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: But if they're not going to take artists to radio

1036
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: and you're just be a streaming artist like some people

1037
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: are doing, don't give that eighty four percent. If you're

1038
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: an artist, like, there's no reason for them to just

1039
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: pay for a record and you give all that to them.

1040
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: That's wild to me.

1041
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 6: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

1042
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 6: Bobby Cast.

1043
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: You're obviously a very intelligent guy. I can tell about.

1044
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm probably talking way too.

1045
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 2: I like it.

1046
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: I like it, and I can tell by listening to

1047
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: you talk to you're a very intelligent guy. Do you

1048
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: think you would have learned this had you not been

1049
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 3: put in the situation to have to learn that?

1050
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: No way, no way, because I would have just I was.

1051
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: I sit back and I let my team do everything.

1052
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: You know, I had, the manager had everything, and then

1053
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: just like normal artist fashion, I'd be like, where are

1054
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: we at with that?

1055
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: Why am I not on?

1056
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: And you're focused on artisting? Yeah, to your moment. So

1057
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: it's not like you don't want to know, but you've

1058
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: got you know, when you're a artist signed a label,

1059
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: you only have a one hundred percent capacity and that

1060
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: capacities on being an artist.

1061
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 4: Be an artist, creating, trying to record, trying to create content.

1062
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: So you're not being lazy.

1063
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: So what I'm telling everybody listening, yeah, you're just putting

1064
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: in all in one place. But you've had to learn

1065
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: how to put in many different places to just get by.

1066
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: To get by, and it was like I had to

1067
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: put on a manager hat and be like, Okay, how

1068
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: do I get shows? How do I create income? And

1069
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: then I had to run a promo staff. I'm doing

1070
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: a calls every Monday, running a promo team. Hey, why

1071
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: are you?

1072
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: My mind is blown by this?

1073
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: Why are we not being played in Philadelphia?

1074
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: You know, like having those conversations and breaking it down

1075
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: and hey, how do we attack that? And how do

1076
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: we go after that? And let's create a strategy. You're

1077
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: going to talk to them. I'll talk to them too.

1078
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: And so it's just been a really weird year and

1079
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: a half of having to do and then like shows

1080
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: coming in and booking that and booking it myself. And

1081
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: you know what's most exciting, Bobby is like being on

1082
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: this podcast with you man is a really big deal

1083
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: and a dream of mine.

1084
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: I think I'm the biggest fan. I'm tell you, over

1085
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: like the last twenty minutes, my mind is blown at

1086
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: what didn't work turned into probably and possibly h the

1087
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: greatest thing that ever happened to you in the most

1088
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: difficult way.

1089
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what I talk about all the time.

1090
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: A lot of people is like, Okay, what if what

1091
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: if Tanil wouldn't have put out somebody's daughter? And I

1092
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: thought my career was in him because I didn't get

1093
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: to put out my song I loved. I wouldn't be

1094
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: here being able to have this story with this song

1095
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: five years later, and it's my own. I've had to

1096
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: learn and I've had to you know, I always say, man,

1097
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: sometimes in the lowest lows, you learn so much about

1098
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: your business and your life around you and if you're

1099
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: going to stay and hey, there's only one way but up.

1100
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: And that was something for me some dark times where

1101
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: I was like, do I just quit.

1102
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: Those conversations with your wife? I'm assuming yeah you had.

1103
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: What was she like when you're like, man, this is

1104
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: very hard and I'm lost? Was her reaction and response.

1105
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: She was like, God wouldn't have given you this town

1106
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: if you didn't you know, didn't deserve to be where

1107
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: you're at, or didn't put a song in your heart

1108
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: for you know, for a reason, like it's you're supposed

1109
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: to be doing this. You know you're supposed to be

1110
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: doing this. She always believed. When I didn't believe in myself,

1111
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: she believed. And then I go to her and I say, hey,

1112
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm about to sync X amount of dollars into a

1113
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: radio single.

1114
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: She's like, hey, go do it. You made you made

1115
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 4: this money off your song. You believe in it. I

1116
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: believe in it.

1117
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: And it's just I can't tell you how lucky I

1118
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: am to have my wife and now playing radio shows

1119
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: going on. We have a seventeen month old and so

1120
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: she is rock star mom. And it's not easy.

1121
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: You know.

1122
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: There's times I come home she's like, I've been here

1123
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: for five days without you and I'm alone.

1124
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 4: It's a lot.

1125
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: And she's been my biggest support system, you know, she's

1126
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: been my sounding board of Hey, what do you think

1127
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: of this idea?

1128
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 5: Do?

1129
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: We almost like, you know, talking business things with her

1130
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: that probably no wife could be happen to be a

1131
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: part of.

1132
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: And she's just been there. Man who manages nobody? You

1133
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: still don't have it, So you're managing yourself.

1134
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: Still, I'm still managing myself. I don't have a booking agent.

1135
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: It's just me and today, before I came I met

1136
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: with the booking agent before I came here.

1137
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: Today don't give them ten percent, and so I don't

1138
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: have all the power.

1139
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 4: I don't have anything. I don't have an agent.

1140
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: Except for everything. You have nothing except for everything. So

1141
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: you are so base, you're so set now to have

1142
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 3: every leverage, on every piece of leverage in every situation

1143
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: for the next at least eighteen months. Wow, that's why

1144
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: a booking agent, any agents, you know, I have agents.

1145
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: They take ten percent, right, Yeah, if I were you, yeah,

1146
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: you can do it for six because I don't need

1147
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: you don't need them. It would help, It would help

1148
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1149
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, it would. Yeah.

1150
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 1: And that's where I'm I'm at the point now where

1151
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: you know, I'm tired of doing it all. I'm more

1152
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: out and talk like conversations with fest and all that stuff.

1153
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: Like I have literally had like opening opportunities for artists

1154
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: and fairs, and the buyer comes to me and says, well,

1155
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: they don't want you on it because they want through

1156
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: William Morris act on it. And William Morris is a

1157
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: big booking agent that I was with for five years.

1158
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: They let me go, and I'd be like, dude, I

1159
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: was with them, and they're like, yeah, but you can't

1160
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: play it because they want their small act to play it.

1161
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to put you on a side

1162
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: free stage, and you're like, what the heck? So obviously

1163
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: agents hold weight that I need to be a part

1164
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: of that. But it's also like here, I've been alone

1165
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: for five years and nobody is I've met tried to

1166
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: be a part of agencies, and nobody wanted me, you know,

1167
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: and I couldn't get any attention until I got top twenty.

1168
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: And that's when sorry, I'm probably not at least in

1169
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: so much dirty.

1170
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: Launcher right, love it. And for everybody listening, there's Cia,

1171
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: There's Well I was. I was with CAA for a

1172
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: long time. Yeah, there's William Morris. There's Uta. I'm with Uta.

1173
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: Now, that's who I just met with right before I

1174
00:46:58,719 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 4: came over here.

1175
00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: Who'd you meet with?

1176
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 4: I met with all of them.

1177
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: I feel like Matthew Morgan, that was Zach Hartley had

1178
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: to go went really well.

1179
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're great people.

1180
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: I feel like, and again we're just talking in the

1181
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: weeds here. I was with CIA for twelve years. Wow,

1182
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, my agent, who was

1183
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: awesome at CIA had had risen in the rank so

1184
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: much that she was like at the top of her genre.

1185
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: Because when I met her, we're both kids.

1186
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: I never had an agent.

1187
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: My radio thing was going pretty good here as a

1188
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: national show, but I was starting to do a little

1189
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: bit of TV, and I was taking a little bit

1190
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: of a risk and an agent that never had anybody,

1191
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: and she was taking a risk is who the heck

1192
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: represents somebody in radio with like a bad podcast and

1193
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: wants to do TV.

1194
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: So we kind of took a risk on each other.

1195
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: But she had blown up so much into in the

1196
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: political world where she had all of these big political

1197
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 3: commentations and gotcha and it got to the point where

1198
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: that was our specialty. And then there was you, and

1199
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: then there was me, almost like the one person and

1200
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: had a very difficult conversation, even for me because I

1201
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: loved her.

1202
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: We spent twelve You get very close.

1203
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: You do to conversations every week, yes, yeah, And I

1204
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: was like, I we tried to supplement other people, but

1205
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: unless it's your main person, it's tough.

1206
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1207
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: And I was like, I have to open this up

1208
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: and take meetings with people.

1209
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: And even if I was going to stay with Caa,

1210
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: I couldn't stay with her because she was killing it

1211
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: so much.

1212
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 2: She didn't she didn't have the capacity.

1213
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, to take you on to do more things.

1214
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, to at least because she was so big in

1215
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: living in the political space. So everybody comes to you

1216
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: and I go and I meet with you Ta, And

1217
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: I felt like those guys, guys and girls, but I

1218
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: say guys about everybody. They were bold, like grinders. I

1219
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: could feel that today, like they weren't the biggest, but

1220
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: they were big enough to be in the top category.

1221
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: Like they were big enough to be in that you know,

1222
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: Cia William wore not the biggest, but not the biggest,

1223
00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: William Moore's biggest hea.

1224
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 2: But I felt like they were gonna go hard.

1225
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think one thing I've learned in this

1226
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: whole like journey is that sometimes it doesn't matter the biggest,

1227
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: like it matters who believes in you the most.

1228
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can definitely get lost in the big. You

1229
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: can get lost in the big, but you're exactly right.

1230
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: It's who is so my agent at Uta, he he

1231
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: goes hard, who is your agent? But his name is Jerry, Jerry,

1232
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: but Jerry is basically he does It's kind of weird

1233
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: that just talked about somebody, but he does a lot

1234
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: of sports people.

1235
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 4: He has.

1236
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: Cow heard and he has rich eyesen and yeah, all

1237
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: these massive but he was a fan of the show

1238
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: or would listen to the show. But he like puts

1239
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: all of his effort. That's what you want, that's all,

1240
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 3: that's all you can ask for, that's all.

1241
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm so.

1242
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm so happy that you've had to go through all

1243
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: of this struggle because now you you have, you have

1244
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 3: every weapon.

1245
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 4: Man, Well thank you for that.

1246
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: And wow, I'm I'm the biggest fan.

1247
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 4: I mean, thanks man.

1248
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: And like I said, this was always, you know how

1249
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: dream of having number one when I moved here. I've

1250
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: always dreamed of doing an.

1251
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 4: Interview with you.

1252
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 2: Oh thanks man. Have we ever done anything together? Never didn't.

1253
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: I didn't think so. But sometimes people feel like, come on, man,

1254
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: been twenty fourteen, we stood six feet from each other.

1255
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 3: You're like on my stream Foregner, And I'm like, I'm

1256
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: very sorry. No, I think nobody cares about me. So

1257
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm not like looking around being like, what's up everybody?

1258
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: Oh man, you're You're one of the most influential people

1259
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: in Nashville, and so like just being here and talking

1260
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: to you and just being able to tell my story.

1261
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: This has been a dream of mine. And you know,

1262
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: since I started this and started climbing the ranks. I

1263
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: was like, man if I could just tell my story

1264
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: to somebody and get it out, you know.

1265
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: So you're managing yourself.

1266
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're booking myself.

1267
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: Yourself. Yep, you're well labeling yourself. The good thing is

1268
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: you probably have a three sixty deal with yourself.

1269
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: Dude.

1270
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, get you get a little portion of your mirg

1271
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah a little Porsche has this with all the money

1272
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 3: that you've invested. I mean, like, are you doing all right?

1273
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing great, you know.

1274
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: Like I think what's interesting is, like I was telling

1275
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: everybody earlier, of labels don't make money on radio, writers do.

1276
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: I wrote daughter, So what I'm envisioning is, yes, it's

1277
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: costing me to send this song to radio, but I'm

1278
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: going to get that back because I own the writer's share,

1279
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: so that that payment is always like six months behind,

1280
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: seven eight months behind. And so I'm envisioning of Okay,

1281
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: yes it cost me X, but I can make X back.

1282
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: But also, you know, instead of going out and making

1283
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: very little money, you know, with a number one record,

1284
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: you can go out and be like, Okay, now I'm

1285
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: worth a little a lot more, you know. And so

1286
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: that's what I'm envisioning. Okay, yes, I had to invest

1287
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: in myself, but now I'm going to get the agent.

1288
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: How many writers on that song?

1289
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 4: Three of us?

1290
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: Have you talked to any management or do you want

1291
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: to management company?

1292
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: I do, yeah, and I have talked to some to

1293
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: some managers and those conversations are starting to go.

1294
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 4: Really really well. That's a very delicate relationship.

1295
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 3: And for those listening again, let's just going and I'll

1296
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: weed out on everybody. So here's the difference. Because I

1297
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 3: did not know the difference till I had to start

1298
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: getting agents and managers.

1299
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I literally knew no difference.

1300
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 3: And when people would talk about them, I'd be like,

1301
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 3: who cares? Yeah, Like when somebody i'd like to think

1302
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: my manager will be like, what's it?

1303
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: What's that doing?

1304
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: I don't care? And what's the difference to that an

1305
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: agent and I don't care? But so.

1306
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 3: An agent is the person who is basically booking out

1307
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: looking for jobs to book for you. Now they're in

1308
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 3: the development a bit as well, but they're out trying

1309
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 3: to book you work. They're out putting your name in places,

1310
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 3: getting you in front of.

1311
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,479
Speaker 4: People, putting you on tour days.

1312
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have.

1313
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 3: Maybe ten twelve clients that they're agenting four on different levels.

1314
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: A manager is in most cases a much more personal thing.

1315
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. They every aspect of your everything.

1316
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: I took my executive producer of my radio show, Morgan,

1317
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, I want you to go

1318
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 3: and leave the radio show and manage me because she

1319
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: was doing she was awesome. I was doing radio, but

1320
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: I wanted her and like I was writing books and

1321
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 3: I was doing TV and I was doing you know, podcasts,

1322
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 3: and so I took her out of that job and

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00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 3: I put herself as my manager. And so, but that's

1324
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 3: a very personal relationship because we've been together for I mean,

1325
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 3: I went and spoke at a college at MTSU.

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00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: She emailed the address. She was my assistant. I know,

1327
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: my intern.

1328
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

1329
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: Then like my fake assistant. She knows your whole business everything,

1330
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 3: and she's as consistent and she's loyal to wanting the

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00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: best for me.

1332
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: She's not always loyal to my thoughts because she knows

1333
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm an idiot.

1334
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so she'll definitely push back. But the management thing

1335
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: is so every day and everything.

1336
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: Everything, Yeah, and it's like so that's a very delicate thing.

1337
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: And it's also like, you don't want to just find

1338
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: somebody because now you're having success and they're just going

1339
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: to jump in. You want somebody to that's gonna build

1340
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: with you, you know. You want somebody that's gonna be like, hey,

1341
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: when there's hard times, which everybody has hard times, they're

1342
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: not just gonna ditch and run like they're in it

1343
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: with you. You know, they're not gonna just be like, oh,

1344
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: I have five other clients, Drew, you go do your thing,

1345
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: and I wanna I'm gonna be good over here, you know.

1346
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: And so it's a very that's a more delicate thing.

1347
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: And I've had some really good conversations with some great people,

1348
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: and I'm really excited about that because here's the deal.

1349
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: Like I was telling you, I'm a I'm a father,

1350
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: like I got a seventeen month old. So last thing

1351
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: I want to be is on phone calls eight or

1352
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: nine o'clock at night, trying to talk to shows or

1353
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: trying to you know, send assets over to a venue

1354
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: that needs it. Like all those things that managers can

1355
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: be doing, I want them to be doing it. But

1356
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: but like you said, you know, right now, we've been

1357
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: very lucky that I own this stuff. And if you

1358
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: start giving all those percentages away, it becomes a lot

1359
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: harder to fund a label, It becomes harder to do

1360
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: all that stuff.

1361
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 4: And so it's interesting, right Yet I had a.

1362
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,479
Speaker 1: Meeting probably seven months ago with them, and I haven't

1363
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: who'd you meet with? That was a guy named Tom Lord.

1364
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: My manager?

1365
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 4: Is it?

1366
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: Really?

1367
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 4: That's amazing how they go. I like him, I like

1368
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 4: him a lot.

1369
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: But so they didn't they call you back away? They'll

1370
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: begin a call for me, don't you worry? Oh dude,

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00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: well please, they'll begin They'll be in a call for me, please.

1372
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: Man.

1373
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: That would be huge.

1374
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: Like Morgan and Tom are my direct managers, that would

1375
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: be I mean, man, think it may not work out,

1376
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna call him ra after this and be like,

1377
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: you're this guy's story.

1378
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 4: Man. That means the world to me.

1379
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 3: It doesn't even matter. It honestly doesn't even matter to me.

1380
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: What you sound like, what your songs are hearing, how

1381
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: you work.

1382
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: I think that's inspiring because you're good at what you do. Right.

1383
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: A lot of people are pretty good to goo to

1384
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 2: what do they do? But a lot of people get

1385
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: told no or this won't work, and you basically just

1386
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 2: took that as a nott right.

1387
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, well I think going I let the nose drive,

1388
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, like, well you know you're telling me no.

1389
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: Now I'll show you like I want to get there.

1390
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

1391
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

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00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: What we should do.

1393
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: I should call Tom and be like, hey, you should

1394
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: call Drew Baldridge back, like I really believe in this dude.

1395
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: And then when he calls you big time, big time,

1396
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: he'll be like I called him, man, and he never

1397
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 3: called me back.

1398
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: And I'm like, uh, have you talked to him? Have

1399
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: you talked to him before? I didn't know if you

1400
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: guys ever talked Well yeah, like seven months ago. Well

1401
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: you messed it up then, you dummy. That would be awesome,

1402
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: that's hilarious.

1403
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I loved Tom. His hang is awesome.

1404
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: But it just, you know, there wasn't like kind of

1405
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: how I felt with the labels, like hey, I met

1406
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: with you and I like you a lot and everything's great,

1407
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: and then just silence. Yeah, yeah, what's your label called

1408
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: lyric Ridge? So bald Ridge obviously, and then my son's

1409
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: name is Lyric, so Lyric Ridge Records. Got it.

1410
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: You have a song with Bailey, multiple songs of Bailey.

1411
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 4: I've written songs for Bailey, for Bailey. Yeah. So me

1412
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 4: and Bailey grew up twenty minutes from each other. I

1413
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 4: saw his TikTok.

1414
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: Is he younger than you?

1415
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1416
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a lot. He's probably like third or nine

1417
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: years yeah, thirteen years old. So so funny story about Bailey.

1418
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: He grew up in Lewisville, down the road from me.

1419
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: I saw, Well, I didn't see it. I got I

1420
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: got a message from somebody back home was like, hey,

1421
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: there's another kid trying to do it, And so I

1422
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: watched his video and I was like, dude's got a

1423
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: cool voice, you know. And so I was like, man,

1424
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: I wish I would have had somebody that I could

1425
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: have just really called on as an artist friend when

1426
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: I first moved to town. So I just shot him

1427
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: on Instagram and said, hey, Bud Drew, here's my number.

1428
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: You ever need anything, you really want to do this,

1429
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: call me. And it wasn't three minutes later.

1430
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Drew Bater talking to you. I can't

1431
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 4: believe you're on here. Man, like, so cool, thanks for

1432
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 4: sending me your number. So I'm talking. I was like, dude,

1433
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: you really want to do this. He's like yeah.

1434
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: I was like, come to Nashville. Let's write songs. I mean,

1435
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: it's COVID. We'll just write in my house.

1436
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,479
Speaker 4: So he came down. We started writing songs.

1437
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: He had a friend named Gavin Lucas who was also

1438
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: in his in his h in his hometown, and we

1439
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: started writing songs out of my out of my living room,

1440
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: and uh, it was just wow, I've never seen anything

1441
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: happen so fast for somebody. And you know, he was

1442
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: calling me the next week. He's like, hey, man, Warner

1443
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: wants me to have a meeting with him. And mind you,

1444
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: at this time, I am like trying so hard and

1445
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, this kid's coming in here getting meeting with Warner.

1446
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, and I'm so happy for you.

1447
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: Got to be happy and sad at the same time.

1448
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: That's okay because you can have two emotions about something.

1449
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1450
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so pumped for him. And then he was like,

1451
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: I got a dilemma. Man, there's a guy here and

1452
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: he wants to manage me too. He's like, I can't

1453
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: have a record label and a manager can I.

1454
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, dude, that's exactly what you need.

1455
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: And so he ended up signing with them and it's

1456
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: just been history and it's just been so fun to

1457
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: watch him go with from Braces and working on you know,

1458
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: pipeline and.

1459
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: Trucks and trucks and trucks. Yeah.

1460
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: He had a big following on social media because of

1461
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: his trucks. Yeah, and he was like at that time

1462
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: he came to my house, he was only singing for

1463
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: four months. You know, he's never sang his whole life,

1464
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: and he just started singing songs and it started working

1465
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: for him. And then to watch here we are now

1466
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: he's selling seven eight thousand tickets a night.

1467
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 4: Like, what a great story.

1468
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: And I tell you what Bailey, for what he's had

1469
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: to go through of fast stardom like that can wreck

1470
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: a person. I've seen it since being here for thirteen years.

1471
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: In a couple of weeks, I've been here for thirteen years.

1472
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: He's handled it really well, you know, just like keeping

1473
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: a level head and even when people have said nasty

1474
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: things on social media about him and they don't even

1475
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: know him, and he's just been the same, good dude.

1476
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 4: You know, positive through it all.

1477
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: I believe in Mike.

1478
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: You can fact check me. I believe we were the

1479
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 3: first person. I don't say this in like a braggy way,

1480
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: but we got bail, We got him really fresh. I

1481
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: think we're the first.

1482
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 4: Interview ever first, it probably will ever.

1483
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: And I love the kid came out. I don't know.

1484
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: There was something about him when he came in, and

1485
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: I remember telling Mike I was like, I don't know,

1486
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: I like even he was like, yeah, it's just this

1487
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: is just happening. He wasn't like hiding from it or

1488
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: like downplaying it. He knew yeah, and he would be like,

1489
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: you know, I ran out on a catwalking. I never

1490
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: realized you couldn't run and sing.

1491
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 3: And he was like telling all these stories about how

1492
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 3: he'd never performed before. And I like, I really liked

1493
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 3: him and him and I've kept definitely kept a relationship

1494
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: of and I would tell him, if you ever get

1495
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: in trouble, like Bailey and I grew up very very similar. Yeah,

1496
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: And I was like, if you ever get in trouble,

1497
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 3: you can call me. It doesn't matter where you are.

1498
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 2: That's awesome because you're going to have people And first

1499
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: of all, you're going to make bad decisions.

1500
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1501
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're like.

1502
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 3: Young and rich now yeah, and that's just going to happen.

1503
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 3: That's you're young, rich, good looking, you're talented. Yeah, so

1504
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: you got to limit those bad decisions. You're going to

1505
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 3: make some bad ones. And I just am like, do

1506
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 3: not get anybody pregnant?

1507
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he hasn't and he had good Hey right,

1508
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: good so far. Yeah. I love him though.

1509
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: That's that's you're right though. He has had a lot

1510
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: come fast.

1511
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: Faster than almost anybody in our business ever because he

1512
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: was the TikTok all that stuff. But it really, I mean,

1513
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: you go from just just put this out here in

1514
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: people's minds right now wherever you're listening to this. You're

1515
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: a small town first, maybe you're an artist, I don't know,

1516
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, man, I want to be a singer,

1517
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: and then one year you're on tour with Morgan Wall

1518
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: fifty thousand people. Can you imagine like going from singing

1519
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: in your garage to fifty thousand people and just expecting

1520
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: to be every note correct, every not to be nervous?

1521
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 4: You know.

1522
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big thing for a while, because he

1523
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 3: would perform and he would be right or he'd be

1524
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 3: but it's like, dude, he's hype. You're you're watching and

1525
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 3: you're also watching a kindergartener perform at college like call graduation.

1526
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 3: As far as like the matura maturation process of being

1527
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: the artist. Everybody else got to do it in bars

1528
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: and got to do it slowly, getting better as they

1529
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 3: and he didn't.

1530
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 2: He didn't did the reps.

1531
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: He got thrown into the fu and it's like, hey, bro,

1532
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: your first tour you ever do sold out every night

1533
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: and you.

1534
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 3: Know he he came and he performed on our show

1535
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 3: and no no effect. And I made a point to

1536
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 3: say this, we're not putting any vocal effects on him.

1537
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: Well you're getting about to hear Is Bailey perform and

1538
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 3: he was really good. Yeah he's great, and so I think, But.

1539
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: Who cares about the eight percent of people that are idiots?

1540
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 2: I don't want to give them too much power. But yeah, yeah,

1541
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 2: it's I want to talk about it.

1542
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: I want to talk about you. Look, we spent an hour.

1543
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 3: I just feel like I could talk to you for

1544
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 3: another hour. I have to go obviously work out.

1545
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 2: Here, I got stay fit, me getting buff, like like

1546
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: right now, it doesn't just come by doing no work.

1547
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm really rooting for you, I really am.

1548
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 2: That is a that is a great story, that that

1549
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: inspires me.

1550
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: Well, thanks man. And I was talking to somebody that

1551
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: ran that like knows the chart really really well. There's

1552
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: kind him Chris Owen, who knows the chart really well.

1553
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: He's always tagging everybody in post and.

1554
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: I he, oh yeah, Chris, yeah, yeah, he like works

1555
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 3: in New York. You used working a little radio station,

1556
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 3: did hey.

1557
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeahs working in little I think. Now he's somewhere in

1558
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: Nashville working for some year. Now yeah he's here now,

1559
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah. And so I shot him a message because

1560
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: he said, you know, we're top twenty. It's Drew's every

1561
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: first top twenty. And I say the message, like, dude,

1562
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: has there ever been an artist is self fund independently

1563
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: a number one record? He me right back, He's like,

1564
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: there's been three, There's been Kenny Rogers, by her Rose,

1565
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: there was Tracy Lawrence. Find out who your friends are,

1566
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: and there's been uh Garth Brooks. Ask me how I

1567
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: know because he had that Pearl label.

1568
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,479
Speaker 4: And he hit me right back. He's like, you would

1569
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 4: be the if you have a number one.

1570
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: You'd be the first artist in the history of country

1571
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: music to self fund their first number one.

1572
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, holy crap, have you met him?

1573
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 4: Never met him?

1574
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: I haven't met him either, just on Instagram, Like, we

1575
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: should get him and Drew, or we should just do

1576
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: a podcast like talking. I mean of this podcast like talking,

1577
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 2: Like I'm so.

1578
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 3: Interested in this version and I feel like I can

1579
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: learn a lot from hearing somebody who's gone through it,

1580
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: and then somebody like him who has studied it.

1581
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 2: For so long.

1582
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then somebody who's kind of like, I'm not

1583
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: really in it, but I'm definitely around it and can

1584
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 3: influence it or be influenced by it.

1585
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1586
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 2: I think that'd be real fun to come back with.

1587
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: Man, I think, like what you do and what your

1588
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: show is for artists and things like that is such

1589
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: a it matters so big, Like when Bobby bones your

1590
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: name in this town, your name on, you support a single,

1591
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: you do whatever, you change artist's.

1592
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: Life like that, and I clip that rate. Yeah, I

1593
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: mean it really is.

1594
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I know you're so humble, Bobby, just

1595
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: talking this is like our first time ever meeting and

1596
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: just hanging out with you or such. It seems like

1597
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: a small town dude i'd hang out with back home,

1598
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I just want you to know that,

1599
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: because you know it could be easily looked over. But

1600
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: like you get behind an artist, you do whatever you

1601
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 1: have them on your show. Even that amount of reach

1602
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: for an artist's song or whatever, they probably ump up

1603
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: in the iTunes chart the same day because you're reaching

1604
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: what you're you know, in.

1605
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: Fair the iTunes charts like ten downloads at this point.

1606
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: Very true, who's even listening to that?

1607
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 4: Very true?

1608
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 2: We can dominate the iTunes. But I bet I bet you.

1609
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: Could see whoever you have on your show, and Mike

1610
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: probably see this, whoever you have on your show. I'd

1611
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: be interested to go that day and check out their

1612
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: streams and see if there's a bump.

1613
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: There's definitely situations. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, we have a

1614
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: big audience audience.

1615
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. When I get to pick a wall court, you

1616
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 2: still move around pretty good?

1617
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I freaking come over and feature book.

1618
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: How far do you live from here?

1619
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 4: I live in Brentwood. I'm right down street.

1620
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 2: Oh you are?

1621
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it took me like five minutes ago.

1622
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 2: All right, I'm bad.

1623
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love that I mean, you're a veteran. You've

1624
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: been playing since like thirty grade. Yeah, so who knew

1625
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 3: it was like the national sport of pato. Yeah, and

1626
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 3: I'll be I'll be paying a lot of attention to

1627
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:56,919
Speaker 3: this now. I again, I don't generally I like doing

1628
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 3: this version because it's an hour long. This podcast is

1629
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 3: really good. People like long form conversation. I can invest

1630
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 3: in a person. I feel like a person that we're

1631
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: sitting across can invest in the conversation.

1632
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: Oh, we can get into the weeds.

1633
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 3: But I rarely am just like lit up like I

1634
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 3: am now during this conversation. And I did not expect

1635
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: to be. I was like, oh, let's see what this

1636
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:16,439
Speaker 3: is about.

1637
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, generic person comes by for generic chat,

1638
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 2: but this is this is real good.

1639
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 4: You guys.

1640
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 3: Follow Drew on Instagram, Drew Baldridge Music, same thing on

1641
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 3: TikTok or go to Drew Baldridge music dot com. And

1642
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a call and it may not turn

1643
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 3: into anything, but I'm gonna call my guy and be like, just.

1644
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: Talk to Drew dude.

1645
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 4: Thank you, yeah, thank you.

1646
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: If it doesn't work out, great and maybe you don't

1647
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 2: want anybody.

1648
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm to the point now where I'm like.

1649
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 2: You're fighting somebody.

1650
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it's just it's getting too much. And

1651
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: I also want to make sure I'm a good husband

1652
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: and a good you know, father, and so it's just

1653
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: I gotta have time to do some of that. And

1654
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: it's like, man, right now, I feel like my time

1655
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: is being sucked pretty. I mean, you're you get it.

1656
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: You're probably times crazy too, but it's just like, man,

1657
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: it's good.

1658
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: It's a good problem.

1659
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good problem.

1660
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: I've never i haven't been here, so I'm just trying

1661
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: to be like take advantage of where we're at and

1662
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: get a really good team.

1663
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 3: And final question, would you ever quit being an artist

1664
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 3: to run a late to run your own label if

1665
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: it was like pop?

1666
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: Would you ever go? Or do you have that you

1667
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 2: just got to make.

1668
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: I've had so many people ask and I was like, man,

1669
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: I would have to be My songs would just have

1670
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: to just immediately suck and not work. Because I love playing,

1671
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: I love being on stage. I love connecting connecting with people.

1672
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: I love writing songs that mean a lot, like She's

1673
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: Somebody's daughter, the stories that I get, the messages I

1674
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: get about what this song means to the people.

1675
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 4: I want that, I want to connect.

1676
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: I've been writing song since I was sixteen and dreaming

1677
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,919
Speaker 1: of this moment of having a song that meant something.

1678
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: It would have to be I'd have to be a

1679
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: lot older and be like, hey, I'm not I'm not

1680
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: doing music anymore. But I don't see that happen. I

1681
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: love playing freaking the opry. I want to be on

1682
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: a big tour. I've never played stadiums, I never played areenas,

1683
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: and I want to do that, you know, so I

1684
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: can't imagine, like right now, that's not in my head.

1685
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: If I will work my own thing and maybe a

1686
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: friend along the way if that happens.

1687
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 4: But right now, music, baby.

1688
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 3: Mike, we should plan a round table. Get me, Eddie,

1689
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 3: Drew and Chris It never met, Chris, never met Drew

1690
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 3: until today. Meet and Chris after seven years, Me too,

1691
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 3: same thing, Drew.

1692
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 4: Good to see Buddy, good to see man.

1693
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 6: Thank you, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.