1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Zero Health Plan 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: on pay Lester Recovery TV. The Farm you O Health 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Plans Get a quote today at FBHP dot com. It 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: is Tuesday, and our Titans radio crew is at the 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Arthur Outlaw Convention Center in downtown Mobile, Alabama, Day one 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: of practices in the books. Here, Rhett Bryan is joining us. 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Coach Dave McGinnis is joining us. Ramon Foster is joining us, 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: and I am Mike Keith and we are glad that 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: you were with us as we saw a national football 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: practice this morning, an American football practice this afternoon. A 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: lot of good football here at the seventy fifth Rees's 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Coach Dave McGinnis, if I have to ask 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: you to highlight one guy, one guy who just reached 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: up and grabbed you today, who would you say that is? 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: Jackson? Jackson Powers Johnson, the center from Oregon. He's an underclassman. 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: I mean, the guy just looked like a professtion center. 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: I mean he's he's got three hundred and thirty pounds, 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: he's thick in the middle. He did not get knocked 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: back at all today. He climbed to the second level 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: I really liked his practice today. 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: Six three roughly three hundred and thirty pounds as coach mentions, 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: and he has played all of the interior spots in 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line at Oregon. Most people see him as 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: the center. He says his goal is to be the 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: first center taken in the draft. 26 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: Well, he's got a chance. He's got a chance, because 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: I was very, very impressed with what he did today, 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: and he did it from the start to the finish. 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: I will say one thing about these coaches, the head 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: coaches that are running both of these practices, they gave 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: a lot of time to one on ones today, a 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: lot of time to one on ones for the defensive 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: line and the offensive lineman, and that's what scouts want 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: to see and coaches want to see. And a lot 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: of time a lot of time to the wide receiver, 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: defensive backs one on ones. But Jackson Powers Johnson just 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: stood out. And then once they got to the team game, 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: he was still that dude that very sell got displaced. 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: Ret Brian who was the player that stood out to 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: you from the two practices today. 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay on the offensive line and I'm going 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: to stay in the same position with another center from 43 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: LSU Charles Turner. Charles Turner six three, three hundred pounds 44 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: a nearly eighty three and a half inch wingspan. He 45 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: lined up at guard and at center today. And you 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: talk about a guy that showed some twitch to his 47 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: game movement very quickly, very athletic, very long, very flexible. 48 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: He's somebody I've been reading more and more about as 49 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: we came into this week, and he showed me that 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: in this practice today. 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: All right, Ramon Foster, Rhett Brian and coach Dave McGinnis 52 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: have gone with offensive lineman. You are an offensive lineman. 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: Will you make it three for three as you pick 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: your player win a winner? 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 4: Mike, you are, sir? 56 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: All right? 57 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 5: That guy from me is Toyler Guiden. I heard him, 58 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 5: heard others talk about him. I honestly came in side 59 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 5: eyeing him. I didn't want to believe what they said 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 5: to me until I saw myself. 61 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: He's six seven three. 62 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 5: Twenty eight Oklahoma tackle, plays right tackle. But as athletic 63 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 5: as he looked, I. 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: Wouldn't put it out there that he wouldn't be able 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 4: to move over. 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 5: His hands was good. He sits up in his stands high, 67 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 5: but he plays lower. Then he actually starts out his 68 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 5: movements left the right was good. He went up against 69 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 5: Chris brass Well, they matched good on good today and 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 5: he had a good day also, and watching them to 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 5: battle push back at one another, you could tell coaches 72 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 5: coming up to him talking to those guys, primarily guiding 73 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 5: more than anything, and he held his own for God 74 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 5: has recently played tight end. He is a specimen and 75 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 5: I don't think he's far off from where people will say, oh, 76 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 5: he's a project. 77 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: No, I won't say he's a project. I think he 78 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: will learn on the job. 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network put out his new top 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: fifty today and it has some interesting things. As you 81 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: would guess, Caleb Williams is still number one, the quarterback 82 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: from USC obviously, Drake may is right there at the 83 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: top as well, Marvin Harrison is right there at the 84 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: top as well, and Jaden Daniels, the quarterback from LSU, 85 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: is number five. Then it gets really interesting. Terry on Arnold, 86 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: the cornerback from Alabama, is up to number six, which 87 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: is the highest I've seen him anywhere. Now again, this 88 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: is not a mock. This is his top fifty players. 89 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: The thing that's important to remember about DJ is DJ 90 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: talks to NFL people, so he didn't do this in 91 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: a vacuum. He's getting feedback from because he worked for 92 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 1: NFL teams. He's getting feedback from people to his list 93 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: and what their lists are looking like. Joe Olt left 94 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: tackle from Notre Dame nine to leasey Fuaga, offensive tackle 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Oregon State, is eleven, ahead of Ola Fashadu, the offensive 96 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: tackle from Penn State, who's twelve, and then j C. Latham, 97 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: offensive tackle Alabama is thirteen. Troy Futana, the offensive tackle 98 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: from Washington, is sixteen, Tyler Geiton, offensive tackle from Oklahoma's seventeen, 99 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: Amarius Mems offensive tackle Georgia is eighteen, and then Jordan Morgan, 100 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: offensive tackle Arizona is at thirty one. All right, coach 101 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis, let's play a game. You love games. I 102 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: love games. You really don't. 103 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: I do. 104 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: But there's so many people who are saying, if you're 105 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: the Titans, you gotta go tackle at seven. You have to. 106 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: Now that could change based on what they do in 107 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: free agency, but let's just say they don't go with 108 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: a tackle in free agency and they're looking to do 109 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: one in the draft. Do they have to go tackle 110 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: at seven based on their own need or based on 111 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 1: what you're seeing after just one day and talking about 112 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: some of these prospects the majority of hum we're here, 113 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: Could they drop back or could they even wait until 114 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: the second round to go tackle? 115 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? First of all, you don't have to do anything right. 116 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: And there's a lot there's a there's a lot of 117 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: way what the. 118 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Fans are saying you do. So, I mean, I'm going 119 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: with the OT people and it's sort of what their 120 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: conversation is, you got to go tackle, you got to 121 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: go tackle, you gotta go tackle. Well, what you've got 122 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: to do is build this roster, okay, and you don't. 123 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: You don't. 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: You don't have an overabundance of picks. Now, any of 125 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: those guys that you've mentioned at the top that will 126 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: be available at seven, and Joe Alt will be available 127 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: at seven. For Ashano Steal, I mean, with all due respect, 128 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: you know to to what DJ's doing right now. I 129 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: mean he's going to be up there, He's going to 130 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: be up there in that mix. So to me, it 131 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: depends on how strong you feel about a tackle a seven. 132 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 2: How strong do you feel if you feel really strong 133 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: that even though there are more tackles in here, we're 134 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: not going to get that guy for a long length 135 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: of time to put on that left side next to 136 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: Peter Skearansky. Then let's go get the guy. It's a 137 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: lot like. It's a lot like to me when Detroit 138 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: went after pane Sewel, they went after panee Sewel. You know, 139 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: with a pick that people thought, you know what, it's 140 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: a little you know, you're just coming in new, you're getting, 141 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: you're getting, you're getting a group together, and you go 142 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 2: with an offensive tackle. The need is there. 143 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: Now? 144 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: Can you get other tackles? Sure you can, Sure you can. 145 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: But it's like a bird in a hand two in 146 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: the bush type of thing. 147 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: Too. 148 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: Depends on how many picks you can get by moving out. 149 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: But based on what you see and what you've seen 150 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: from some of these other guys, do you feel like 151 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: you could either potentially drop back and get one of 152 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: those guys later in the first round or get the 153 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: kind of quality you want at pick number thirty eight. 154 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: If you went with something different, like let's say you 155 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: took Arnold the corner at seven. You need a corner, 156 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: Sure you do. I mean they're hard to find. So 157 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: let's say you went there and you said, Okay, at 158 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: thirty eight, we're thinking maybe we'll go tackle based on 159 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: what you've seen. Do you feel better about the overall 160 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: top end talent at tackle after today? 161 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I'm of the same conversation. I'm with coach Mack. 162 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 5: I'm with the idea the talent that we saw today 163 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 5: in these tackles. I much rather stack picks as much 164 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 5: as I possibly can. If I can move from seven 165 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: to eighteen or twenty two and there's still some quality there, 166 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 5: give me that guy, even if that guy has to 167 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 5: play right tackle. Because here's a thing. You gotta somewhat 168 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 5: be real with yourself about what we're trying to do 169 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 5: here in Nashville. This isn't a one year fixed. This 170 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 5: is a this year. This is the next year. This 171 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 5: has been good in free agency. All of this is 172 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 5: compounded now to get back to where that standard is higher. 173 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: You have a firm baseline about everything that you're trying 174 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: to do. And here's the other side of it too, 175 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 5: from my side of it, looking at how you gotta 176 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 5: be as a GM, you gotta be as a franchise, 177 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 5: is what does it usually go Coach Mac. Top five 178 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 5: here supposed to be walking ready, go jacket caliber type 179 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 5: of guys for the most part. 180 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: Right. 181 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: If they're prospect wise prospect wise or not, then you've 182 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: mis evaluated. 183 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 5: In Top ten is instant starter for the most part too, 184 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 5: Like you're going in within like the first half of 185 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 5: the season, you're starting. 186 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: There's a lot of pressure to get that right too. 187 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 5: So if I can move back, get a guy that's 188 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 5: a little bit safer, a little bit cheaper, still high quality, 189 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 5: high pedigree, I much rather take him. If this group 190 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 5: is what they said it is. And we saw a 191 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 5: good bit of these tackles here today too, as far 192 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 5: as their ability to play, and they have some ability 193 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 5: to it. And the coach Mack hit me to a 194 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 5: term the other day, I e don't be an instant evaluator. Okay, 195 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 5: just because I think the kid from Arizona day didn't 196 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 5: have the greatest day doesn't mean tomorrow in teams he's 197 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 5: not gonna be good. I thought he was solid for 198 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 5: the most parts of the day. But of course the 199 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 5: guy that stood out to me was t Hall of Geiden. 200 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 5: He stood up far, far and beyond anybody else. And 201 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 5: you had him as well, Jeremi, I tribably had him 202 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 5: at seventeen. If I can move back at seventeen, get 203 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 5: me a third, maybe another fourth. On top of that, 204 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 5: we're living well. 205 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: And you make an interesting point in Rhett, I bring 206 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: you in on this because Jim Naggy, the executive director 207 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: of the Reese's Senior Bowl, held his press conference this 208 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: morning and made what I thought was a fascinating point. 209 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: He said that because there's so few underclassmen in this draft, 210 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: and they're fifty four who declared early, and they're four 211 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: more who are exemptions, so it's a total of fifty eight. 212 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: If you compare that to twenty twenty, that's almost exactly 213 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: half half. The number in twenty twenty was one hundred 214 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: and fifteen, so that's fifty seven players difference. What he said, 215 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: Rahet is because so few underclassmen declared, and it's a 216 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: lot because of NIO, we know that, but because so 217 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: few declared, it guts rounds five through seven of the draft, 218 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: it guts draft boards. His point is that teams are 219 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: going to fight to go up instead of putting things 220 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: off and trying to grab a bunch of Day three picks. 221 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: They're going to fight to go up to get more 222 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: draftable players on their own board. I thought that was fascinating. 223 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: I think I thought about that when he mentioned that 224 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: at the press conference myself, and the belief is is 225 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: that there's a good group in those middle rounds anyway, now, 226 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 3: it's going to accelerate the land grab for that. But yeah, 227 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: I never thought about that part of it till he 228 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: mentioned that this morning. I'm like, yeah, that's a real thing. Well, 229 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: last year it was eighty two, so it's dropped. Well, 230 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: I mean it's a whole Oh my gosh, I mean 231 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: that's twenty four players. That's that's literally three quarters of 232 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: around that are not there because guys are choosing to 233 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 3: go back to school for another year. And guess what, 234 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: the Titans have a bunch of picks five, six, seven. 235 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, a bunch late and no. Three. To the point 236 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: about going up, do you think about dealing back from 237 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: seven to be able to get that third round pick 238 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: that you don't have right now? 239 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: Sure, that's that's that's part of the poker match. That's 240 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: part of the poker match. But and here's the other thing. 241 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: While we're sitting here talking like this at this round table. 242 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: It's not round, but let's say that it is. Okay, 243 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: I can't see it. They're sitting here. First of all, remote, 244 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm glad you listened. When I talk to you, I 245 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: tried to coach. I e you listened. 246 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: I like that. 247 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: Just when when when players regurgitate to me good advice 248 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: I give them, I like that. I know it's going 249 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: through to me. To me, what is what is important? 250 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: This is not only going to be the Titans thinking. 251 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: Everybody else is thinking the same thing too. So when 252 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: you're talking, you're talking about your case as far as 253 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: when you shrink numbers, because the draft is a numbers 254 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: game anyway you shrink numbers. I mean, all of us 255 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: have been involved in the draft for a long time, 256 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: and you know how you're always searching. After about that 257 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: fifth or sixth round, that board starts to shrink pretty quick, 258 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 2: really quick. But everybody else is going to be thinking 259 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: that too, So you've got to put that into your 260 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: mind too. 261 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: The thing that I think the Titans fans and the 262 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: ot people need to hope the most is something that 263 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler wrote about in The Athletic. One of the 264 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: questions entering the week is does Bo Nicks become a 265 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: top ten pick, the former Auburn quarterback who played it Oregon, 266 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: does he become a top ten pick during the course 267 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: of this week and then moving forward when he interviews 268 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: in the combine and those sorts of things. Ramon Foster, 269 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: if you're a Titan fan, you gotta be pulling for 270 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: that right. 271 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 5: You have to, because if he goes up, that pushes 272 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 5: everybody else back that you need. And of course, this 273 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 5: is a quarterback driven league, and a team's up top 274 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 5: always need those guys. We know Chicago does, we know 275 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 5: New England does. There's other teams in front of this 276 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 5: team that can push your guy backwards. We've seen this 277 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 5: happen before. Heck, let's go to a few years back. Now, 278 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 5: this was to his own undoing, but Laramie Tomsel, he 279 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 5: got pushed back and the team benefited still because here's 280 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 5: the thing. If the talent is good, you're gonna always 281 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 5: find talent. As a coach is your job, and it's 282 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 5: the players responsibility and family and people surround them to 283 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 5: make him a better adult, pro and human being. Houston 284 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: is still benefiting from his mess up because he got 285 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 5: pushed back. That young man was a top five pick, 286 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 5: if not higher. So yes, Mike, that is the ultimate 287 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 5: dream of coach Mack. You bring up a point two 288 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 5: and I'm over here. My wheels is spending now because 289 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 5: we actually talking about real stuff. If the word is 290 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 5: out and there's no secrets in the NFL, everybody's saying 291 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 5: the same thing. Jim Nagge said that he's getting that 292 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 5: from an NFL tank. So the aggressiveness of some teams 293 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 5: that may be twelve maybe fourteen can actually benefit you 294 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 5: more so to move from seven to fourteen. 295 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 4: And you still got j c. 296 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 5: Lath, you still got Jordan Morgan, you still got all 297 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 5: these guys that you know can play at a high caliber. Yeah, 298 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 5: I'll take that and give me a three and give 299 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 5: me a four also, and I'll let you have number 300 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 5: seven because the top ten pick is valuable. 301 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: And Mike, here's a sidebar conversation that Ramona and I 302 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: had at practice today at the conclusion of the American 303 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: practice this afternoon. We don't know what Nicholas petti Frere, 304 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: how he works with this, and so what if he's 305 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: one of those tackles, and what if is what if 306 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: he is the left tackle? And then now you're looking 307 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: at a right tackle instant. I mean that could change 308 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: the landscape of some things, and maybe even or they 309 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: think Jalen Duncan's the left tackle. Yeah, I mean, you know, 310 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: And so they're just reinforces the probability of moving down 311 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: if a bow Knicks moves up, because that's the thing. 312 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 3: The guys that are here at quarterback this this week, 313 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: they're trying to become the third quarterback in this draft. 314 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: And there'll be people in the camps in these different 315 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: thirty one other places that think Jayden Daniels is that, 316 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: and there may be their mind can be changing this 317 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: because no matter who you ask, and certainly with Daniel 318 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: Jeremiah you mentioned the top two, who's number three? And 319 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: if there's a third, then that means somebody's gonna go 320 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: grab after if it's not Bo Nicks and it's Jaden Daniels, 321 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: or there's four quarterbacks possibly before you get to seven, 322 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: could be and so and you haven't even talked about 323 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: grabbing the best at pass rusher, the best cornerback, the 324 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: best wide receiver, you know, all of those things. 325 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: Well, what if Malik Neighbors is there from the wide 326 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: receiver from LSU it's better than Jim Nabors. It's true. 327 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: Although he was out, he was fantastic. He was fantastic 328 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: for all those years. But for the purposes of this conversation, 329 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: that gave me the eye roll. Yeah, go ahead, coach, 330 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: thank you. But I mean, if he's there at seven, 331 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: you're going can we pass him up? 332 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: You can pass anybody up if you've got something. I mean, 333 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: because I know, I know what it is. The thing 334 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: about this is, let's peel back another layer of this onion. 335 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: All of this is possible. We're talking about because we've 336 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: got a guy that we think is going to be 337 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: our quarterback. 338 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: That's right. 339 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: Now, that's the layer of the onion. That's important because 340 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: it's been a while. It's been a while, you know, 341 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 2: since you know, you know, the Titans had to trade 342 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: for a quarterback so that you had one that you 343 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: believe was going to be yours for a minute, and 344 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: but he wasn't on a rookie contract. So these are 345 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: the building blocks when you're working in today's National Football 346 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: League in the draft that you got to take advantage of. 347 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: So that being said, that being said, the fact that 348 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: you've got a guy that you believe with development with 349 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: what's gonna go on can be your quarterback, then there's 350 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: a lot of avenues opened up to you afterwards. 351 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: And the last two years you have used a two 352 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: and two threes counting what you're trading this year going 353 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: after quarterbacks, talking about Will Levis and talking about Malik Willis. 354 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: You're not going to have to do that this year. 355 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 5: To your point, Yeah, And I was just gonna add 356 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 5: in on top of that, as far as you draft 357 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 5: any of the best available what works for you, that's 358 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 5: the thing that we got to realize. So Brian Callahan 359 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 5: is gonna draft what works for him also, right. And 360 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 5: the thing that I'll go back to is the Pana 361 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 5: sul thing. Some thought he's gonna be a left tackle. 362 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 5: Detroit Is said, naw, he's a right tackle, And that's 363 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 5: okay with us. We just want the best five out there. 364 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 5: And if that is NPF going to left and you 365 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 5: actually still draft in a right tackle, I mean, you 366 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 5: got two guys that's been in the Titans building for 367 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 5: a couple of years with Peter Skearonci going to his 368 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 5: next year right, and so you got somewhat of a 369 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 5: balance and understanding that this is our franchise moving forward 370 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 5: in the success, it's on our backs. It's again we've 371 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 5: been saying left tackle, left tackle, left tackle. But if 372 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 5: it's best available, that guy goes just so happens to play, 373 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 5: is right? Then you got something else too, because if 374 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 5: I'm not mistaking, I think we saw Jordan Morgan the 375 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 5: day line up at right tackle right. 376 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: So I mean you've got options, but I mean it 377 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: could be. I mean read if I told you right now, 378 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: with the way you love the draft, that you could 379 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: have Alt at seven the left tackle from Notre Dame 380 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: and Jackson Powers Johnson at thirty eight the center. It's 381 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: not real sexy in terms of your first two picks. 382 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: Would you do it? Yes? He was? He was adamant, Well, remote, remote, 383 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: You're not You're not credible because if you're old, you 384 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: want to draft five offenses. 385 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 5: I had a good D lineman down here too, saying 386 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 5: that which D line it was? Oh, he just kept 387 00:19:52,880 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 5: on Brandon Fiskey from Florida Staff. He just kept showing, Uh, 388 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 5: he's a player, and I'm looking at him. I'm just like, 389 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 5: why is he in the backfield again? I thought I 390 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 5: was over talking Coach Mac in the stands I'm like, 391 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 5: there is again, there's fifty five again, there's some good 392 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 5: quality down here. He showed up today. He showed up today, 393 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 5: he did. And now I I'm gonna just fall back again. 394 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 5: But I believe my eyes today though, Coach. 395 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: That's all you can count on today. And of course 396 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 2: you know the film work you do. But anyway, but this, 397 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: this conversation is a good conversation because you know, I 398 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: spent some time with Ray Agney today this istant GM 399 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: at Detroit, and we're just going back over the foundation 400 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: that they built. And the first thing he said to 401 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: me was, Mac, we didn't care what everybody else thought 402 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: about our draft picks. They wanted Sam Laporta, they wanted 403 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs. They didn't worry about it, he said. We 404 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 2: just went after ballplayers that we knew would fit what 405 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 2: we do. 406 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: To his point, well, I mean, let's face it, with 407 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, the one thing that I think everybody 408 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: can agree on is this roster doesn't have enough difference made, 409 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: just does it. And you've got to find with seven 410 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: and thirty eight, regardless of the position they play, I mean, 411 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: regardless of what you do, you've got to find two 412 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: difference makers who give you a level that they can 413 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: just help you go win a game. TAIJ. Spears was 414 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: at practice today here, he was back here to support 415 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: his two lane teammates. Great to see Taj. He's a 416 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: difference maker. They got him at eighty one. They need 417 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: more guys like that all over the team who just 418 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: are dominant winning players. 419 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 3: At and Mike, I go back and reference a previous 420 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: OTP you've done recently when you were talking about roster 421 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: construction and your first dozen players, the middle guys and 422 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 3: then the back guys on the back end. You don't 423 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: to cement what you're talking about. You don't have enough 424 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: of that first dozen guys that are the difference man. Now, 425 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: the theory being the one through twelve, the thirteen through four, 426 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: and then the forty one through fifty three. That's their 427 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: three different sort of neighborhoods that they live in the 428 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: Titans one through twelve is not good enough right now. 429 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: But to go back to finishing up answering your question 430 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: about the seven and thirty eight with Joe Alt and 431 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: with Jackson powers Johnson, I do that just for one 432 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 3: main reason. It goes back to what coach Max said 433 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 3: a moment ago. If you believe will Levis is your guy, 434 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: he was sacked over forty times. 435 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: It was too many, too many. 436 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: And you're going to try to protect that investment, and 437 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: that would go for whoever is back. 438 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: That's right, So you gotta do that, agreed. All right, 439 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the guys we had a 440 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: chance to visit with today. I want to talk about 441 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: Quinnon Mitchell first. If you don't know, if you're listening 442 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: to the OTP and you don't know, Quinnon Mitchell's name, 443 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: cornerback out of Toledo who's originally from Florida, and he 444 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: was discussed like for example, he is number nineteen on 445 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's top fifty. A lot of people think he 446 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: is going to be the highest selected player from here 447 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. All he did today is go 448 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: out and basically dominate coach. 449 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: Just broke up every pass they threw at him. I mean, 450 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: I mean, if that's what a corner is supposed to do, 451 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: is suppose that? Well, And to me, you talk about 452 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah, people wonder why are you talking about him? 453 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: Because Jim Naggy talked about Daniel Jeremiah today in this 454 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 2: press conference, he said, every time Daniel Jeremiah pushes somebody 455 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: up the board, you know, we lose them. You know, 456 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 2: but you know prior prior to coming in, which is 457 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: and you brought up a point because DJ talks to 458 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: people in this league, right, he talks to people that know. 459 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he's not talking to the goober duber shoe 460 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: flies out there that circle around this stuff. 461 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, he's. 462 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: Talking to He's talking to legit dudes. So you ask 463 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: you asked me about Kenyon Mitchell, coach, Please length, uh huh, 464 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: the big the best thing though with length. A lot 465 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: of times lengthy cornerbacks that are high cut have a 466 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: hard time in transition. When I say transition, I'm talking 467 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: about two step back pedal, sticky foot in the ground 468 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: and immediately go forward. He got that, He's got that 469 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: nineteen DJ. 470 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: I love that he sat in Ramon Foster's chair earlier 471 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: today and visited with us. This is Quinnon Mitchell, a 472 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: really talented player out of Toledo, a corner he's with 473 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: us now on the OTV. Quannon Mitchell, cornerback Toledo. You 474 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: got to answer one question right off the top for me, sir, Williston, Florida. 475 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: You near Tampa, Nah, near Gainesville, near Gainsville. Okay, Still, 476 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: how do you get from there to Toledo? How does 477 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: that happen? 478 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 6: So through the process I had like an up and 479 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 6: down process, has some academic and she was coming out 480 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 6: of high school and Toledo. They just took me the 481 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 6: whole time. So that's why I wanted Toledo. 482 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: So you just stuck with them? 483 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 7: Yes, sir? 484 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: All right, Toledo for the uninitiated, which we're not, we know, 485 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: has got a really good reputation. Yes, as far as 486 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: as far as as football wise, as a as a 487 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: corner there. What did you What did you take from 488 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: there with the competition that you were against that you're 489 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: going to apply here? 490 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 6: Uh, just how you go about things, you know what 491 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 6: I'm saying. How you come into the building and take 492 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 6: things and be like a pro and then just apply 493 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 6: that to the game. 494 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 7: Just going out and competing and working hard. 495 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 2: So technique wise, talk to us a little bit. We 496 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: watched tape on you talk to us about what you 497 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: feel like you need to improve on. Just give me 498 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 2: two things. 499 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, So at Toledo, I play a lot of 500 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, off man, right, So just 501 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 6: coming in, just coming in and repping, repping, my repping, 502 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 6: my press man, and then really just making every tackle too. 503 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, sixty two targets, twenty seven catches for two 504 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: hundred and ninety yards, no touchdowns. That's that's the the 505 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 3: line against you in twenty twenty three in Toledo. What 506 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: do you think the best thing that you bring to 507 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 3: the game as you go through this process, What do 508 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 3: you think is the strengths that you're bringing to the table. 509 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 6: I would say boss kills, Like I love being around 510 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 6: the ball, knocking the ball. Now in accepting the ball. 511 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, I just want to be 512 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 6: around the ball, and you know, I just touch it. 513 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: And so you're not necessarily going for the pick. You're 514 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: just going to disrupt and then if you get a pick, great. 515 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 6: Now I'm going for the picky. I'm going for pick, 516 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. But you know what I say, 517 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 6: if I got to it, just just knock it down 518 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 6: and just make a play on the ball. 519 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: So thing that jumped off the page to me about 520 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: Quinjon Mitchell six feet a little over six feet one 521 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: hundred ninety five pounds. That obviously is going to impress 522 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: a lot of teams right off the bat. Is that 523 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: what you thought you would measure here? Was that right 524 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: at it? Or did you think you were a little 525 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: bigger or. 526 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 6: No, I'm six foot, but I was a little light. 527 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 528 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 7: One thing I would the like for me? 529 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: So what do you want to play on a day 530 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: to day basis in the NFL? 531 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 6: So I've been at two hundred, you know what I'm saying, 532 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 6: So just from there, they're the one ninety five for real. 533 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: So yeah, there are many people who are in the 534 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: business of sort of scouting the draft for the media, 535 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: and they are talking about you as potentially a guy 536 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: who can end up in the first round of the 537 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: draft as the buzz is out there. Do you feel 538 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: any pressure about that? Oh? I know, sir, I don't really. 539 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 6: I don't really get into stuff like that for real, 540 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 6: because I mean, it's a lot of stuff going on. 541 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 6: So if I really like, get into it, and I'll 542 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 6: be all over the place for us. So no, I 543 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 6: just I don't get into it for real. 544 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: The one on ones here for your position are are massive. 545 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're big. So going into that, you played 546 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: a lot of Offman. Now they're going to ask you 547 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: to press down here and do so talk to me. 548 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: I know you've been working on that wherever you've been working, 549 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: where you've been working. 550 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: Out and training. 551 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: Talk to me about talk to me about that transition, 552 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: the difference between offman and the press. 553 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 6: I feel like Offman really harder than press man. I mean, 554 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 6: I can press it, just it just was like the 555 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 6: scheme that we was running. I feel like in our 556 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 6: scheme playing off Man, they gave me a lot of chances, 557 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, break on the ball and 558 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 6: stuff like that. So I feel like it'll be an 559 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 6: easy transition. I just gotta like stay true to my technique. 560 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 3: So, yeah, your frame, as Mike mentioned, you're the ideal 561 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: size to be a corner in the NFL. You feel 562 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 3: like that helps you against big, physical receivers, because I mean, 563 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: you're gonna see some big guys here, but they're definitely 564 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 3: gonna see him at the next level. 565 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like I feel like my frame and 566 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 6: my speed and all that I can match up against anybody. 567 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Short, short receiver, big receiver. 568 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, don't matter. You know what 569 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 6: I'm saying, I can go against anybody. 570 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: Who is your idol as a cornerback that you try 571 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: to emulate in your style of play. 572 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 6: So like, I watch a lot of corners and like 573 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 6: try to take take stuff from us from different corners. 574 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 6: But a corner that I really like is Darius Slave 575 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 6: from the ecles. 576 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: Ah who also makes a lot of plays on the ball. 577 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 6: Big play Slave, So yeah. 578 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: What is it about his game? Just talk to you 579 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: about his technique wise that you've you've taken from it, 580 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: because that's a good thing that you're doing. Yeah, watching guys, 581 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: go ahead. 582 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 6: He played a lot off man, you know what I'm saying. 583 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 6: He plays some press man too. But the thing that 584 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 6: I like about him is he been doing it for 585 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 6: a long time. You know, I think I think this 586 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 6: might be like year ten or something like that, and 587 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 6: he still still ball is still going against the best. 588 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 7: Like you know what I'm saying. 589 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 3: He young. Like here, rookie head, Quenyon, what is it 590 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: that you're working on this week and throughout this whole 591 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: process in your skill set? 592 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 6: I mean, like I said, really, just you know what 593 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 6: I'm saying playing a little bit more press man and 594 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 6: stuff like that, and UH just want to continue to 595 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 6: make plays on the ball when the opportunity comes. 596 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: Quennon Mitchell enjoyed watching you play at Toledo, Excited to 597 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: watch you and mobile and thrilled for you that you're 598 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: getting to go through this entire process. Thanks for joining 599 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: us now, Thank y'all, Thank y'all. Thanks sir Quenyon Mitchell 600 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: with us on the OTP. I'm reminding you that it's 601 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: always game on with Duncan. So grab a coffee and 602 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: kick off the action. Whether that's drinking a cup of 603 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: coffee on your way to the game, we're grabbing one 604 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: to go before watching the game at home. Duncan is 605 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 1: always there to help you get your game on. Just 606 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: like the pros, we need to be at our best 607 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: come game time, which is why Duncan is the most 608 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: important part of your game day ritual because it's always 609 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: the best call for football America runs on Duncan. So, 610 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: like Mitchell, we had a chance to visit with another corner, 611 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: Kaylan King from Penn State. He is a guy that 612 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people are dying to watch this week. 613 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: He knows it. That's what he told us in this 614 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: interview from earlier today on the OTP Kaylan King cornerback 615 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: Penn State. The first thing we need to say is 616 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: happy birthday. You just had a birthday. 617 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 7: Yes, it was on the twenty eighth. 618 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: Uh huh so two days ago. You're legal. 619 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: Yes, you are twenty one years old, very young in 620 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: this whole process. You were an early entrant to Penn 621 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: State and now you're here. Does it feel like it's 622 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: just been a world win? 623 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 7: Man? 624 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 8: It feels like I just roll into college last year 625 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 8: like that time fly man, But I enjoy every moment 626 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 8: of it. 627 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: Why did you decide to go ahead and come out now? 628 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: And also why did you decide that with the Senior 629 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Bowl giving underclassman a chance, that this was the place 630 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: for you to showcase your skills? 631 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 7: Yeah? 632 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 8: So, you know, I talked with my family and my 633 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 8: agents all the time, and just the I felt like 634 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 8: it was ready for me to actually go and chase 635 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 8: my dream. And I was chasing since a little kid, 636 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 8: Like I felt like I've proven myself in college football 637 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 8: and now it's actually to go go do the thing 638 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 8: that I've been dreaming of this whole time. So just 639 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 8: talk to my family and my agent just prompted me 640 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 8: to make the decision to leave early and just just 641 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 8: go chase what I was chasing since I was born man, 642 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 8: and for as far as the Senior Bowl, like, I 643 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 8: just felt like all the guys that were here were 644 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 8: big name guys, and it was it was more than 645 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 8: enough conversation for me to come here and actually prove myself. 646 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 8: So I felt like this was just another opportunity for 647 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 8: me to help myself in this draft process and things 648 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 8: of that nature. 649 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: So, Cana Yonder, you know, this is a seventy fifth 650 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: anniversary of the Senior Bowl, so it's been going on 651 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: a long time. A lot of great players come through it. 652 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 2: But you're in a unique You're in a unique class, 653 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: the first underclass one that they have ever been invited 654 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: to the to the Senior Bowl. So there's gonna be 655 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: some you know, a lot of eyes are on you, 656 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: which is what you want. Yeah, you played in big 657 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: competition there at Penn State. What are you looking forward 658 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: to here throughout this process? 659 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'm looking forward to a couple of different things. 660 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 8: Like I'm looking I just want to I want to 661 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 8: have fun while I'm out here. I'm looking forward to 662 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 8: competing against top name guys and in this upcoming draft class, 663 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 8: and really I'm just here to show everyone that I 664 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 8: am the player that they think I am. 665 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: So hard to leave your brother behind, your twin brother. 666 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 7: Kobe, Yeah, man, that was hard, man, it was real hard. 667 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 8: Like I remember when I was leaving to go train 668 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 8: for Florida and he dropped. He actually was the one 669 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 8: who dropped me off at the airport, and like right 670 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 8: right when we was pulling up to the airport, I 671 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 8: started getting. 672 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 7: A little emotional. Huh. 673 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 8: I held it together, a little tear drop, but he 674 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 8: ain't see it. I was turned away. So yeah, man, 675 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 8: it was tough though, But I'm good. 676 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 3: But let me let me ask you this though, because 677 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 3: you have obviously guys like you, talented, like you have 678 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: a sounding board, but you've got a really good one 679 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 3: in your former teammate of Joey Porter, who's now at 680 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steeler. Have you leaned on him to help you 681 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: through this process? 682 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 8: Yes, for sure, Like anytime I get an opportunity, I'm 683 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 8: I'm I'm asking Joey Porter a question about anything. He's 684 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 8: always he's always there to you know, give me a 685 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 8: little gems and bits and pieces of how everything's gonna go. Like, 686 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 8: like ever since I stepped on campus at Penn State 687 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 8: and seeing the way Joey works in a way he 688 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 8: just carries him. So I knew that was a guy 689 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 8: who's gonna be playing on Sundays. So I tried to 690 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 8: I tried to make sure I was around him as 691 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 8: much as possible, just so I can soak up as 692 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 8: much information and knowledge that I can. 693 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: Kaitlin, is Marvin Harrison Junior the best receiver you've gone against? 694 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 7: Yes? 695 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: What was that like? Uh? 696 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 8: So, he's one of those guys he has it all 697 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 8: like he's a he's a rare. He's one of the rare, 698 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 8: rare guys that I've seen in my career. His combination 699 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 8: aside speed catch radious. He takes no players off. His 700 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 8: effort is off the charts every play. So I feel 701 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 8: like that's what sets him apart. And he's definitely, you know, 702 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 8: a very good player who's gonna have a very good career. 703 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: But that's gotta help you this week that you have 704 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: seen Marvin Harrison Junior and guys of that ilk in 705 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: your time at Penny Day. Yeah, for sure, be less 706 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: intimidating towards the one on ones and knowing you're being 707 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: evaluated on every part. 708 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, Like I feel like that only helped me. 709 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: Talk to us a little bit. Now, let's get into 710 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 2: some ball. Talk to us about you know, the techniques 711 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: that I know. We watch tape on you, we know 712 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: what you've played there. What do you think you need 713 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: to work on? 714 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 8: So I feel like I need to work on definitely 715 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 8: my knowledge of the game. More like you can never 716 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 8: you can never know too much in a game of football, 717 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 8: And I feel like I definitely need to improve on 718 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 8: my knowledge of the sport, like just like because I 719 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 8: feel like corners cornerback is, if not arguably the hardest 720 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 8: position in football. So just just refreshing my knowledge and 721 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 8: learning new things and just adding things my toolbox. 722 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 7: So it can help me. 723 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: Talk about your toolbox. Where are you more comfortable? Of course, 724 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: you're playing out there on the island. I mean, we 725 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 2: all understand, we all understand what that is. But you're 726 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 2: playing out there on the island? 727 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: Is it off? 728 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: Man? 729 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 2: Press man? Just tell me to talk to me a 730 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: little bit about what you saw. 731 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 7: I played a lot of press man. She did at 732 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 7: Penn State. 733 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 8: Many dses came in with that defense, and I loved 734 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 8: it ever since he stepped on campus because that's the 735 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 8: type of guy I am. I'm a physical corner who 736 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 8: likes to get in in receiver's faces and put hands 737 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 8: on So definitely press man. 738 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: You're from Detroit, yes, sir, you play cornerback like a 739 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: guy from Detroit, not scared of anything, not at all. 740 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: How does that background, in that attitude help you play 741 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: that position. 742 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 8: I feel like growing up in Detroit, man like, it's 743 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 8: one of those areas where you can easily get distracted, 744 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 8: you can easily get your mind set off the main goal. 745 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 8: But my mom and dad, since I were young, instilled 746 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 8: in me that I had the opportunity of a lifetime 747 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 8: and that I had to take I had to take 748 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 8: advantage of it. So every day I wake up and 749 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 8: I take the you. I just remember, like not not 750 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 8: too many guys get this opportunity, so I have to 751 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 8: make the best of you, and that just keeps me 752 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 8: pushing for wherever you do. 753 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 3: Kaylen King, Penn State Cornerback, thank you so much for 754 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: the time, Thank you for having all right. Thanks Kaylen, 755 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: Kaylan King cornerback from Penn State with us on the OTP. 756 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: Coach Dave McGinnis, how did you think his first day 757 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 3: of practice went. 758 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: I thought it was good. I think he can I 759 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: think he can be better. The thing that he can 760 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: do that you could see he can run run well. 761 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: That the Zebra, the Zebra system that they're using. That 762 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: they I love this down here because I mean, Jim 763 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: Naggy's got this thing rolling and so they'll post it 764 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: on the board after the after the practice of the 765 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 2: fastest times on Zebra. I think he was third. I mean, 766 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: the guy can run run now. The rest of that 767 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 2: stuff you could fix and needs to. 768 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: Have a better day tomorrow, gotta get off being a 769 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: little grabby. 770 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 2: Better day, better day to but not a little. I 771 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 2: mean I thought you know he would. He was grabbing 772 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: high too, which is get you any time you know 773 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 2: you can grab you teach grabbing down by the belt, 774 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: sure on the turn and all that stuff and all 775 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: that stuff. But he was too high today. 776 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fascinating. 777 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 5: So Coach mc and I listened to some stuff on 778 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 5: our ride down and Jim Naggy talked. 779 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 4: About he talked about kaylen King. 780 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 5: And st last year. He said that, you know, the 781 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 5: scouts were going in to Penn State to look at 782 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 5: Joey Porter June and said, of course they can't talk 783 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 5: to him, they can't visit with him, but of course 784 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 5: people talk and said most of the scouts that they 785 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 5: talked to walked out. 786 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 4: Talking about Kaylen King. 787 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 5: So it's fascinating he's been on a radar and it's 788 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 5: interesting he must teach grabbing at Penn State simply because 789 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 5: that was one of Joey Porter Jr. 790 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: It was the biggest faults. It was committee penalties. Rhtt. 791 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: I thought your point though about his relationship with Joey 792 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: Porter Jr. And your question to Kaitlyn King was really 793 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: spot on in the way he's gotten advice about how 794 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: he's got to work through everything. And he was a 795 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: guy that a lot of scouting people thought had an 796 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: up and down twenty twenty three more to prove in 797 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: this process, but man, all the tools are there. 798 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 3: They are, and the way I framed it, I asked 799 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 3: him about him leaving his twin brother, Kobe, who he 800 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 3: played with his linebacker at Penn Stint and how hard 801 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 3: that was. But he has a veteran voice and a 802 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 3: guy who's already been around the block one year with 803 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 3: Joey Porter to kind of help him through that, which 804 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 3: is so valuable to use as a sounding board to 805 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 3: know what to expect, to know what to look out 806 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 3: for and try to avoid pitfalls, all those things. 807 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 2: Here's the number one thing he has though that we 808 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 2: talked about grabbing him. You can teach all of that. 809 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: The thing he has that you can't teach speed. Oh rap, 810 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 2: he got speed. 811 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: And he's not scared. No, Mike, you know he else 812 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: was fast. Luke McCaffrey. Luke McCaffrey was fast. He had 813 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: just a tick over twenty miles an hour. Yeah, Luke McCaffrey. 814 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: And if the last name sounds familiar, it's because he's 815 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: a McCaffrey. He's Ed McCaffrey's son. He's Christian McCaffrey's brother, 816 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: younger brother. He was a quarterback coming out of high school. 817 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: But you know, he makes some interesting points. I don't 818 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: want to totally foreshadow the interview we're about to play, 819 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: but really good looking receiver out of Rice coach. I 820 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: thought he had a good day. 821 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: He did have a good day, and I liked him, 822 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: and I like visiting with him. He's football smart, smart. 823 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 3: Smart, and he brings value as a special team's return 824 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 3: guy as well. 825 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,959 Speaker 1: You love all those things. 826 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 3: Good, he's good, and you knew his route tree was 827 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 3: gonna be good because guess what, his dad was pretty good, right, 828 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 3: kind of learned some things. 829 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: His dad was really good. Started off as a quarterback, 830 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: finally ended up a receiver from earlier today, Luke McCaffrey 831 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver from Rice with us on the OTVLD. Luke 832 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: McCaffrey wide Receiver, Rice. Does it still sound weird to 833 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: you just a little bit when I say wide receiver 834 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: considering how much quarterback you played. 835 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 9: No, I think throughout my career I was always the 836 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 9: slash's that's what my old teammates used to call me, 837 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 9: And so I was kind of quarterbacks slash receiver, slash 838 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 9: running back, slash safety. And so it kind of feels 839 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 9: nice to have a home, to have a label now. So, 840 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 9: I mean, I'm super comfortable with the wide receiver. 841 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: So when you finally moved full time, I guess in 842 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: the spring of twenty two, Yep, that just became. That 843 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: was not a big jump for you. 844 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 7: No, it was awesome. 845 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 9: It was it was freeing to be honest, because I 846 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 9: felt like that was the first time in my life 847 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 9: I'd been able to just enjoy the game. 848 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 7: You know, you put so much hard work into it. 849 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 9: You know, you want to play with play with the 850 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 9: guys around you, and so I think that was the 851 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 9: first time in my career that I really felt free 852 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 9: to sort of just let the reins, let the reins fly, 853 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 9: and go from there. 854 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 2: I'm a TCU alum, So we'll put that aside right now. 855 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 2: The frogs in the owls. 856 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 857 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: Look, coming from a quarterback moving to the wide receiver, 858 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: you've got a better perspective as far as to what's 859 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: going on. How has that helped you? 860 00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 861 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 9: Well, for first off, I think might be one of 862 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 9: the first people to really have a little bit of 863 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 9: an aggressive edge against Rice. I feel like a lot 864 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 9: of people like. 865 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 2: To play played Rice for all of my career down 866 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 2: there because it was in the Southwest Conference. 867 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, we all played so incredible history, yeah, really good history. 868 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 869 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 9: But uh, going back to that, I think it helped 870 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 9: a ton, especially in film study preparing for the week. 871 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 9: You're really able to kind of diagnose a defense, know 872 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 9: what's going on in the field. But I think when 873 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 9: it comes down to it, I actually had to dumb 874 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 9: a lot of that down to the extent of a receiver. 875 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 9: You're almost going one on one with someone every play, 876 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 9: and so you don't have to worry about what the 877 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 9: what the three texts doing, you don't have to worry 878 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 9: about what the front's doing. And it helps to to 879 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 9: understand the game and to prepare for the game. But 880 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 9: once you're in the moment, you got to just let 881 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 9: it rip and let it fly. 882 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, expand upon. 883 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: That a little bit. 884 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 2: So you're talking about I mean, it's like having It's 885 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 2: like taking your high beams off and putting your dams on, 886 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 2: but you're focused more focused on what's in front of you. 887 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 2: And also you've got a chance to know what the 888 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 2: quarterback's thinking a little bit. Talk about that. So, yeah, exactly, 889 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 2: I think football is a timing and precision. 890 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 9: Sport, right, you have to have that cohesiveness with your 891 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 9: whole unit, especially at quarterback and receiver. And so I 892 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 9: think just understanding that and then the level of the 893 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 9: level of communication that plays into the relationship between football 894 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 9: players and quarterbacks and receivers was really special because you know, 895 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 9: I feel blessed to have gone through that because I 896 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 9: feel like I can talk to quarterbacks on a level 897 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,479 Speaker 9: that other guys probably can, and that just helps helps 898 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 9: the team at the end of the day. 899 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 3: Luke, you spoke with a sense of relief talking about 900 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 3: how much pressure it takes off of you from transitioning 901 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 3: from quarterback to wide receiver. I hear that in your 902 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 3: voice because I think about when you played for Scott Frost. 903 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 3: You started a game versus Penn State, Right, yeah, yeah, 904 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 3: and so from what But the question is what's the 905 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 3: what's the hardest thing about trans transferring positions like this 906 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 3: from a quarterback position to a wide receiver. 907 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 9: Oh, I mean, there's a lot that goes into it. 908 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 9: I think the whole first year that I that I 909 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 9: had transitioned, I just focused on the fundamentals. I wanted 910 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 9: to learn how to get off press, wanted to learn 911 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 9: how to get out of breaks, wanted to learn how 912 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 9: to do all those basic needs that that you have 913 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 9: when you're a receiver, right. And then I think as 914 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 9: I've progressed, I've been able to apply those to where 915 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 9: now I can try out different releases and different tops 916 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 9: of the break at different moments, and then kind of 917 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 9: put it all together at the end of the day. 918 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 1: How much did you talk to your dad about wide 919 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: receiver when you made the full transition? 920 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 7: Oh a whole lot. 921 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, he wanted to make sure I was confident in 922 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 9: the decision and the minute the minute that he sensed 923 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 9: the genuine want and the genuine passion for this. I 924 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 9: think I started going to him with questions immediately and 925 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 9: he started responding that was pretty cool. It's it's pretty special, 926 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 9: and there's no doubt that I'm probably more blessed than 927 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 9: anybody in the world. Was such a technician, yeah, in 928 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 9: his career exactly, such a technician and such a competitor, 929 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 9: and so everything from you know, taping your jersey to 930 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 9: cutting out different insules in your pads so that you're 931 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 9: a little bit lighter is everything that he dove his 932 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 9: whole entire mind into and so it's pretty cool to 933 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 9: have somebody who went through that already. 934 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: In today's world, like coming down to mobile, is there 935 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: extra pressure being a McCaffrey right now? 936 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 9: I wouldn't say so. I think actually there's probably less 937 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 9: pressure coming from a small school because I think a 938 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 9: lot of people, you know, haven't seen me play to 939 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 9: an extent, and so I think it's really fun to 940 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 9: just be able to be free out here and to 941 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 9: kind of show everybody you know, who I think I 942 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 9: am throughout the last season and the season before that, 943 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 9: because not a lot of people, you know, watched our 944 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 9: games this year, and so I think it's such a blessing, 945 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 9: such a cool opportunity. 946 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of that now down now, down here, you're 947 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 2: gonna be You're gonna be going against corners from different 948 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 2: places at different levels. The one on ones down here, 949 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm just speaking from a few years of experience in 950 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 2: this league is really critical and important. What are you 951 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 2: concentrating on there? 952 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, So again that goes into just dumbing down the process. 953 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 9: So you know, I get to the line, and I 954 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 9: have my response to whatever's out there. Right, if they're pressed, 955 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 9: I want to do something specific. If they're if they're 956 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 9: playing off, I want to do something different. And so 957 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 9: just going through that process every single play, because you know, 958 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 9: it's a long week, a lot of things are gonna 959 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 9: go well, a lot of things are probably gonna go bad, right, 960 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 9: And so I think a big part of what makes 961 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 9: good football players is people who can work through all 962 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 9: that junk and get better at the end of the day. 963 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 9: And so I hope every single day I learned something 964 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 9: and I'm just able to kind of play free and 965 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 9: grow throughout the week. 966 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 2: Let me just say as a as a long time 967 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 2: coach in this league and having coached down here, and 968 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 2: I know that's what people are looking for down here 969 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 2: is improvement day to day because they expect. They don't 970 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 2: expect you to know everything the first day as you're 971 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 2: as you're well aware, but the improvement and you're you're 972 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 2: spot on with that, the improvement day to day is 973 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 2: important and to be able to do that. 974 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 3: Everybody's got something they're working on, and you're still working 975 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 3: on your craft as you've moved the wide receiver. But 976 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 3: what do you think your strengths are that will show 977 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 3: up this week and in this process going forward. 978 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think something that U that people probably didn't 979 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 9: see in my game entirely for some reason, just from 980 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 9: talking with others, is the ability to run routes, the 981 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 9: ability to create separation. I think I've shown a great 982 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 9: ability to catch the ball in traffic, to make contested plays. 983 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 9: I think shown good good run after the catch. But 984 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 9: I'm excited to kind of show off what I've learned 985 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 9: the last year, last year and a half from a 986 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 9: route running standpoint. 987 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: Luke McCaffrey, so good to meet you, and I know 988 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: an exciting time in your life and your family's life. 989 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: Congratulations on all of that. Good luck the rest of 990 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: the week here in Mobile. 991 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 992 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 2: Hey, look by the way, everybody here that's down here 993 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 2: has seen Rice play. Just thank you so much. 994 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: Good to see you, Luke McCaffrey, wide receiver from Rice 995 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: with us on the OTP. Good to visit with him. 996 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: We watched receivers like crazy today because obviously the ot 997 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: people at all Titans fans know this team has got 998 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: to upgrade its receiving cores. There are a bunch to 999 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: choose from down here, all shapes and sizes. The Xavier 1000 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: leaguets from South Carolina, Uh, certainly a fun player to watch. 1001 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: I had a chance to visit with Jamari Thrash, the 1002 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver from Louisville. You'll be able to see that 1003 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: at Tennessee Titans dot com. And he's got he's got 1004 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: a lot of speed. He cannot wait to run at 1005 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: the combine. So kind of on and on and we 1006 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: just you know, had the interview with Luke McCaffrey. Anybody 1007 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: else grab you at receiver today? 1008 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 3: Rhtt Uh there's one in particular, and I wrote down several, 1009 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 3: but Lad McConkey from Georgia with the stop start skills 1010 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 3: that he possesses and showed down there where he in 1011 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 3: one on ones is just snapping some guy's ankles. 1012 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 1013 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 3: And of course we know all about him because the 1014 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 3: way George's program has been the last two or three years. 1015 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 3: But uh, he he continued to display that in the 1016 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 3: first practice. 1017 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1018 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 5: One from me was Ricky Parasol and from Florida. Yeah, 1019 00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 5: from Florida. Familiar with him too. Okay with that being said, 1020 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 5: though they had him working in the slot. He was 1021 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 5: smoothing his route, running good hands man and could separate. 1022 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 5: So we had a ball thrown behind him, put it 1023 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 5: on this hip and brought it in. Ricky Pirisol is 1024 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 5: a wide receiver that I yeah, I'm gonna watch again 1025 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 5: tomorrow to see if he does it again. 1026 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 2: You got one, yeah, davontees Walker, the kid, Yes, from 1027 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 2: from North Carolina. You could do. He's he's raw, he's raw, 1028 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,919 Speaker 2: but he's got he's got some skills. They as I said, 1029 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 2: both teams did a lot of one on ones today. 1030 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 2: But when he takes off, he can take off. 1031 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: He's twenty sixth on Daniel Jeremiah's Top fIF Well. 1032 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 2: That's because Daniel called me and asked me. 1033 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 3: Is ask me he revealed himself as a source. 1034 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 2: He asked me what I thought? 1035 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: You're a source? Now that's good. Uh lad McConkey that 1036 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: you referred to has fascinated me because you watch him 1037 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: and you think, oh, well he's this, and then you're 1038 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: like no, and then you watch him do something else 1039 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,919 Speaker 1: and you think, oh he's this, and it's like no. 1040 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: I don't think there's really anything he can't do. He 1041 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: is a very complete player. Georgia used him in different ways. 1042 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: They used him underneath, they used him over the middle, 1043 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: they used him on deep shots. I mean there's a 1044 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: lot he can do. Musician versatility, he's got that. I mean, 1045 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: he is just a really good receiver. Forty fourth on 1046 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's Top fifty list. The wide receiver from Georgia 1047 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: who could have come back for another year but decided 1048 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: to go out. I caught him post practice this afternoon 1049 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: on the American team. Georgia wide receiver Lad mccaukee on 1050 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: the OT team. Lad mccaukey wide receiver, Georgia. Some people 1051 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: were surprised that you chose to come here because you've 1052 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: played so much football. People have seen what you can do. 1053 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 1: Why come to the senior ball. 1054 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 10: It's another chance to compete and this is football. This 1055 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 10: is fun. It's not like you're having me do something 1056 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 10: I don't like. I love doing this and practice one 1057 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 10: on ones all that stuff. It's fun and another impression 1058 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 10: from these in front of these scouts and all these coaches. 1059 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 10: So come out here, do my job and let the 1060 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 10: rest take care of himself. 1061 00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: What have been working on since the end of the 1062 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: joy just season. 1063 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, I've been training down to XO, So it kind 1064 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 10: of flips a little bit. Obviously doing on football and 1065 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 10: stuff like that, but really speed training, being explosive, working 1066 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 10: on combine drills, and I mean, after this, that's what 1067 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,439 Speaker 10: That's what's in my stote, that's what tien I my radar, 1068 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 10: so attack that even more when I get back after this. 1069 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: What are you hoping to run when you get to 1070 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:17,959 Speaker 1: the combat. 1071 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 10: We'll see all. 1072 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: Right in the different interview setting, some of which you've 1073 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: already sort of gotten into what sorts of questions are 1074 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: teams asking you. 1075 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 10: I mean, so far it's kind of just been basically info. 1076 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 10: I mean, they just want to know about you. You know, 1077 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 10: what kind of person you are, know what you came from, 1078 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 10: why'd you choose Georgia, And then obviously it's gonna start 1079 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 10: rapping up, but I mean they really just want to 1080 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 10: get an idea of you, how you feel in the 1081 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 10: football field, how you prepare, what you do game weeks, 1082 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,320 Speaker 10: how you recover stuff like that. Then obviously your history, 1083 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 10: so that's. 1084 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: Something out on you. Seems like one thing that you 1085 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: have the ability to prove is that you can be 1086 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: a slot receiver, you can be an outside and receiver. 1087 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: You can play really anywhere. Is that something that Mobile 1088 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: gives you a chance to do. 1089 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely. I mean you'll probably saw my day working 1090 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,280 Speaker 10: inside and and outside. That's something I've did at Georgia. 1091 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 10: So I mean they did a good job. We would 1092 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,720 Speaker 10: a twelve person now I'd go in the slot, eleven 1093 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 10: I'd be more outside, So they move me all around. 1094 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 10: So I'm comfortable with it. I've told all the coaches 1095 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 10: and everybody I've met with, like I can play inside, 1096 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 10: I play outside. 1097 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: So seem very complete. So one wonders what does Lad 1098 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: mcconkee have to work on to continue to impress NFL 1099 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: teams through this whole process. 1100 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 10: It's a game of inchest So I always say, as 1101 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 10: a receiver, you can always work your hands better at 1102 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 10: the line of scrimmage on top of routes, just a 1103 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 10: second level release of stuff like that and then being efficient. 1104 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 10: I'm not fall stepping, not slipping. I'm coming out of 1105 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 10: break because I know the window just gets that much 1106 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 10: more tighter when you get to the next level. 1107 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: That's Lad mcconkeye, wide receiver from Georgia. Really impressed with him. 1108 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 2: Where's Daniel Jeremiah? I got Pearsol He's not in the 1109 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 2: top fifty. 1110 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,959 Speaker 4: Okay, I think some got him second third round. 1111 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 5: But if you're looking at a special see if they 1112 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,240 Speaker 5: line them up and slot, that's. 1113 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 4: Probably where you would draft a guy like that. 1114 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 5: Would you say so, Mac and your history drafting those 1115 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 5: types of guys. 1116 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 2: I just think he's a really, really smart, yeah football player. 1117 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: Well, the thing about Pearsaw is he's got some good 1118 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 1: size and he's got some of the stop and go 1119 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: part of it that you want. Pearsaw came in nearly 1120 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,760 Speaker 1: six ' one one hundred ninety three pounds. 1121 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1122 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: Mconkey came in and this surprised some people because when 1123 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 1: he saw him on TV, you sort of thought he's 1124 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 1: this little guy, and turns out he's five to eleven 1125 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,280 Speaker 1: one eighty seven pounds, so he has decent size. Yeah. 1126 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: The guy who shocked me most with the size then, 1127 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: and I mean it totally took me aback was the 1128 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: was the running back from Missouri. I was. I was 1129 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: stunned that Cody Schrader. When you saw him on TV, 1130 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: you thought he was this big physically five eight two 1131 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: o seven is a fire hydrant. He ran well, he 1132 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 1: did a good job overall. I didn't think he was 1133 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: the best back on the day. Who'd you think the 1134 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: best back was? Rhett? 1135 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 3: I don't know about the very best, but one of 1136 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 3: the best I think is Marshawn Lloyd from Southern cal 1137 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 3: who used to play at South Carolina the other USC, 1138 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 3: the other USC five star out of Damatha coming out 1139 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 3: was a huge prospect for South Carolina Torpenee and then 1140 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:21,359 Speaker 3: had two years transfers to Southern cal and has a 1141 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 3: really nice twenty twenty three. I think one of the 1142 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 3: things you like about him is he's not used up. 1143 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 3: I don't even think he has three hundred total carries 1144 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 3: in his college career. And I think you, I think 1145 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 3: you like that. I'm still disappointed that that Jalen writes. 1146 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 1: Not here h me too, Me too, because I wanted 1147 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: to see him in this competition too. I want to 1148 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: see him doing pass pro I want to see him 1149 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 1: in the passing game because I mean his speed and 1150 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 1: some of these backs are fast, some of them are quick, 1151 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: some of them are in between, some of them both. 1152 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: But I don't think there's anybody here who has the 1153 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,240 Speaker 1: gear that Jalen Right from Tennessee has. 1154 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 2: Not the sudden gear. Oh no, not not the sudden gear. 1155 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,760 Speaker 2: The guy I liked, Rashein Ali from Marshall. 1156 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,879 Speaker 1: I had a chance to talk to Rashid Ali, and 1157 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: Rashein Ali is uh. It's really an interesting dude, bigger 1158 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: than we thought. He's another guy. You saw him, you 1159 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 1: thought he's this little kind of No, he's five eleven, 1160 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: two hundred and ten pounds in just good size, and 1161 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: he had some quicks that were more toward Jalen Right 1162 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: than maybe anybody else. Am I oversimplifying, right? No, I 1163 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: think that's that's correct. Yeah, I think though Jayalen Right 1164 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,439 Speaker 1: is more sudden. Yeah, okay, Jalen Wright's a sudden dude, 1165 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: he is. And listen, I'll go round the table. Are 1166 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: the Titans drafting a running back in this draft? Regardless 1167 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 1: of what happens. Are the Titans drafting a running back? 1168 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: I would think not, no, no, okay, I would think 1169 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: so yes, yeah, I do too. You're three to one 1170 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: on that. 1171 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 5: I know, and I basically on the fact that if 1172 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 5: you think Taj is a guy, you probably find a 1173 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 5: veteran guy to actually help lead him to. 1174 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: I think you'll do that. I mean, in regardless if 1175 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: Henry's not back, but regardless of what happens, if you 1176 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 1: know and all to talk about Derek is all to 1177 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: talk about Derek, But regardless of what happens. I think 1178 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: from a value standpoint, you're taking aback somewhere in this draft. 1179 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 1: That's fair, and so I think down here is an 1180 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: interesting place to watch that. I think you're probably signing 1181 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 1: a veteran too. 1182 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 3: And the potential free agent veteran running back list is impressive. 1183 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 3: Always quite a few names. 1184 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's become more and more impressive. Every year because 1185 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 2: just just of what the valuation rightly or wrongly, that 1186 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 2: the position is carrying right now. 1187 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 5: What's beautiful though about that position and it gets it 1188 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 5: devalues it too, is everybody dreams of playing that position. 1189 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 5: So the guys that make it to this level are 1190 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 5: actually pretty good at it. It was two guys on this 1191 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,800 Speaker 5: list that I was looking at. Is Dylan Lobby from 1192 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 5: New Hampshire. 1193 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,919 Speaker 1: Who had one of the fastest times of the day 1194 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: on the on the tracker. 1195 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 5: He was good out of the backfield too, and the 1196 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 5: other one was Isaiah Davis out of South Dakota State. 1197 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 5: Both showed flashes and catching out of the backfist. One thing, 1198 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 5: coaching back, you said, you have to be able to 1199 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 5: show up running back, can you block? Can you catch? 1200 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 5: And I forget the other one coach back, I gotta 1201 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 5: I gotta look at my. 1202 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 7: Notes on that. 1203 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 2: Listen a little closer. 1204 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 1: What's the other one? 1205 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,839 Speaker 5: Got to block, gotta be able to catch and got 1206 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 5: a block, gotta be able to catch and vision. 1207 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 3: Vision vision vision vision. That's good discussion. This has been fun. 1208 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,359 Speaker 3: It's why it's fun to come down here. 1209 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 2: That's great down here doing. 1210 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 3: All this way is pretty fantastic, and I like coming 1211 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,280 Speaker 3: down here with you guys. Well we enjoy YouTube coach 1212 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 3: well sometimes all the time. 1213 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 5: Wow, I was excited to see this today more than 1214 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 5: last year. And I got to give it up to 1215 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,760 Speaker 5: a school that their players just kept popping. 1216 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: Missouri said some good players, did you can see why 1217 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 1: they want games? You can? 1218 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 5: You can they're probab is good and you see it 1219 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 5: from all other schools too, But Missouri sent some good 1220 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 5: cause down here. 1221 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: Well, everybody they had is a ballplayer. Yeah, you know 1222 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 1: what they're gonna be in the NFL. Who knows, Because 1223 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: you've got to get in the situation. You gets stay healthy. 1224 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: All that has to happen. But you just watched some 1225 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 1: guys and they're saying, oh, I mean it's like seeing 1226 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: the Georgia guys. Yeah, they're all ballplayers. 1227 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 2: Just football players. That's a great point, Mike, great point. 1228 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: Seat geek is now the official ticketing partner of the 1229 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Whether you're buying or selling tickets to Titans 1230 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 1: games or any live event in Nashville, seat geek is 1231 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: the place to do it. 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I've 1235 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 1: got some interviews that will post there, including if you 1236 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: had it, didn't have a chance to hear the earlier 1237 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: part the Lad mccaukeey interview, Jackson Powers Johnson, the offensive 1238 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: lineman from Oregon is there, Jamari Thrash, the wide receiver 1239 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: from Louisville, is there, which I think you'll really enjoy. 1240 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: And Rashen Ali, the running back for Marshall, will be there, 1241 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: plus an interview with Taj Spears. Uh. He gave us 1242 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 1: some time on the field and it was good. I 1243 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 1: asked him, are you going to try to play in 1244 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 1: the game again since since you made so much money 1245 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: here last year? Double down? I mean he did. He 1246 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 1: made hundreds of thousands of dollars with his performance here 1247 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: last year. 1248 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 2: Can I give some more kudos to writ Oh gosh. 1249 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 1250 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 3: I think Mike's saying it's a one year memoriam on that. No, 1251 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 3: it's not okay, which two lane players are gonna fall 1252 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 3: in love with this year? 1253 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: Not too late, okay? 1254 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 2: But Rhet was in love man crush on TAIJ. Spears 1255 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 2: before we ever drove down here and then in the stands, 1256 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 2: it was like there was nobody else on the field. 1257 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 2: It was it was Mike. Did you see that? 1258 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: Did you see that? Right? Fairness? He was the best 1259 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 1: player on the field, right. 1260 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 2: So I'm giving him kudos, and I. 1261 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: Do you have your your man crushed? This year? Still formulating? Okay? 1262 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: So not like last year, not like his last year. 1263 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, one, I'll be honest with you. 1264 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 1: You did man. 1265 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 4: Two dudes go, I said him earlier. 1266 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: Brandon Fiskey, Okay, the defensive lineman from Florida State. 1267 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 5: Him and it is three I can add to a 1268 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 5: Parker Parker Powace Johnson is another one. But the other 1269 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 5: one Man the big dude to and Andre Switt. Those 1270 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 5: those three right there, I love because they have what 1271 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 5: they do and they're doing it well, at least on 1272 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 5: the first day of practice. 1273 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 2: The sweat is a sweat is what we refer to 1274 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 2: as a front end low man. He just he just 1275 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 2: drops the blade and you can't move him. 1276 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 5: It didn't weigh in the day because you knew. I mean, 1277 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 5: he probably got shed a little bit, but he weighs enough. 1278 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 5: And guess what he did with all that two coach Max. 1279 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 2: Moved forward that pocket. 1280 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: He did And he's the kid from Texas, Texas, from Texas, 1281 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: defensive lineman from Texas, and he weighs three sixty. 1282 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 3: I've seen as much as three sixty eight. He did 1283 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 3: not He must have broken the scale here. Maybe I 1284 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 3: don't know, because there's no there's no weight there to 1285 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 3: go with the other have a man crush It's only 1286 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 3: fitting because he could crush you. 1287 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: He could. I tell you. 1288 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 3: Ma's right though, front end loader. You talk about the 1289 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 3: space man, the space eater is there? 1290 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 5: Who? 1291 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was knocking guys back. 1292 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ramon Foster is a big man. 1293 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: But but but but he doesn't wait three sixty No, 1294 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: no use to. 1295 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 2: But that was the time. 1296 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 1: That was the time there, it is, that was a time. Wow, 1297 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: that came. We have violence now. 1298 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 2: But but just honesty. But when when Sweat walked out 1299 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 2: on the field and we're sitting up there in the 1300 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 2: stands looking who's that? 1301 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 1: He said, Mac, who's that? Hey? 1302 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what though, and Mac Mac will admit 1303 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 3: this several times during this practice today. You know, I 1304 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,160 Speaker 3: kind of like these offensive linemen are down here. I 1305 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 3: kind of like these offensive linemen. That tells me there's 1306 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 3: some there's some guys here. There's some guys here, no 1307 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,439 Speaker 3: no doubt. For RTT Brian, for Ramone Foster, for coach 1308 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 3: Dave McGinnis. I might keep thanking you for joining us 1309 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 3: from Mobile and the O T