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Speaker 1: of two here on this day one of the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five NFL Draft. Zach Kershman joins me. We react

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Speaker 1: in real time just moments after Nolan was selected and

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Speaker 1: held a conference call with local reporters at Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode eight seventy three, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Buda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 1: What rent?

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Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 3: so more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow here's Craigcrioler.

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Speaker 1: Well we both guessed, right, Zach.

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Speaker 3: We did.

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Speaker 1: On our most recent Cardinals Covered two presented about Hundai,

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Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, the last one before

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Speaker 1: the draft on Wednesday, we both predicted defense line of

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Speaker 1: only line of scrimmage defense, but interior line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: defense with Walter Nolan six foot four, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: social media team has labeled him a Mississippi menace.

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Speaker 3: Which I liked, and he labeled himself as a unicorn.

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Speaker 3: That's what he's able to bring to the table and

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, his first and only season at

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Speaker 3: Into the season and once again with the reinforcements that

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Speaker 1: You look at the defensive tackle selected ahead of Nolan.

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Speaker 1: Those negative things and the reaction that we asked him

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Speaker 1: NFL Networks Daniel Jeremiah listed Nolan as his twenty eighth

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Speaker 3: Get that player now, Walter Nolan, and I just I

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Speaker 1: He has put a little bit of a spotlight on

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Speaker 3: Which is why I made sure to ask him where

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Speaker 3: It's not by mistake that he's the sixteenth overall pick

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Speaker 3: sure Dane Brugler mentioned it here. It was that famous

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Speaker 1: His walk off quote, if you will during the conference call,

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Speaker 1: As far as the welcoming from these current Cardinals, welcoming

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Speaker 3: Mac Wilson Senior from Mexico tweeted out, he said win

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Speaker 3: Calvin Beacham tweeted out, let's get to work. Welcome to

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Speaker 3: the value Walter Nolan and gave a shout out to

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Speaker 3: Welcoming Walter Nolan. I'm sure they're gonna be very excited

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Speaker 1: All right, So just some quick reaction here from the

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Speaker 1: Zach go back to work.

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Speaker 3: Oh, let us go back to work, Wills Like Kelvin Beachum,

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Speaker 1: Put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mamahundro our associate

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