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Speaker 1: this wonderful Wednesday evening. I am your host on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: vandermer Mark, how is your side of town nice? Hot

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Speaker 1: that day through for five hundred twenty seven yards. That's

427
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 1: tied for second most all time in a single game

428
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: in the history of the league. Match shop. Okay, and

429
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: he tied Warren Moon actually with that number, but Henny

430
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: put up some huge numbers as well. And when people

431
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: forget about that game was the Texans were down fourteen

432
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter and we thought, all right,

433
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: it's been nice. You know, you had the one loss

434
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: of the Packers, and here you are, you're playing Jacksonville.

435
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: They're not very good and you're just having a stinker game.

436
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna lose this one. But they roared back,

437
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: went into overtime, and deep in overtime, Andre Johnson took

438
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: the little wide receiver screen and ran it a long

439
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: way into the end zone. It was beautiful. It was

440
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: a beautiful day, beautiful ending. And you have the Thanksgiving

441
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: game coming up. So I'll never forget that day that

442
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: that's one of the greatest games I've ever seen, ever

443
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 1: been a part of in the booth, and it's unforgetable.

444
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: What can I say. I remember when it got to overtime.

445
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: I remember thinking before that game, the one thing the

446
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: Texas could not do because they're playing game on Thursday

447
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: at eleven, was going to overtime. They had to make

448
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: quick work of the Jags in out done. That's the

449
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: way that and then it did not go that way.

450
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: So well, here's your question. Who had a better passer

451
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: rating that day? Match up? Who, like you said, through

452
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: four or five hundred yards or Chad Henny. Are you

453
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: telling me Henny had a better passers you had a

454
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: better passer raiding? All right? Well, since you ask got

455
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: better at Henny, it is you wouldn't have asked. Matt's

456
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: rating was one twenty one point seven. Chad Henny was

457
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: one twenty six point eight. He threw for three hundred

458
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: and fifty four yards, he had four touchdowns, and he

459
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: had that one eighty one yard touchdown pass to Justin Blackman.

460
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: How many games Mark would you callie and this would

461
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: be a good status. How many games have you ever

462
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: been to or called where there was a two hundred

463
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: yard wide receiver on both sides? Because Dre, like you said,

464
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: had a day fourteen for two seventy three in a touch,

465
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: Justin Blackman had seven for two thirty six in a touch.

466
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought him up. What a talent he

467
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: was and what a pick gone wrong for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

468
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: I mean, what would he have meant to their success

469
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: had he been able to keep playing and not? What

470
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: was the trouble, Johnny, What was the trouble with Blackman?

471
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: Off field? It was alcohol? Yeah, yeah, it was I

472
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: don't think it was weed. I think it was alcohol.

473
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: That's too bad. I mean he could not rain an in.

474
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: He was so good. Gosh, he was good, and Henny

475
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: knew that. You know what, I'm gonna get the ball

476
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: to him and see how that works. Obviously, not a

477
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: good day for a Texans d that was actually pretty

478
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: good that year, but they had a rough time that day,

479
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: and then you had the real fatigue factor. Said it

480
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: with the four days later Thanksgiving game where you went

481
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: deep into overtime again, And we talked about that all

482
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: the time as a possible derailment factor of the twenty

483
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: twelve season down the stretch where they just didn't seem

484
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: to have that extra that they needed to finish when

485
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: they lost three out of four. If they won two

486
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: out of four, they have home field advantage throughout. Don't

487
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: get me started. I'm feeling a pain that. That's why

488
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: I had to me going into overtime. It's like Okay,

489
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: they can't pull this out, but my god, what's it

490
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: gonna do to him against the lines? And then that

491
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: goes to overtime and you're like, hey, now you got

492
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: the mini buy. You know, he'll be five for Monday

493
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: and okay, didn't work. Yeah, don't work. Okay, second one.

494
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: So that's pretty pretty easy. It felt like at the

495
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: time it was a slam dunk. New franchise needed a quarterback.

496
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: What you remember when the Texans decided to draft David

497
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: car in two thousand and two. I think it was

498
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion really even when I got here, that

499
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: he was going to be the guy he had. You

500
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: know what people forget about David is and I know

501
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: you remember this well in two thousand and one that

502
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: college football season. I was pretty busy with the Miami Hurricanes,

503
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: but you couldn't help but notice David Carr winning three

504
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: huge games early for Fresno State, right, and David threw.

505
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: I want to say, is it forty six touchdown passes

506
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: or forty two? There's a forty in there. His senior year,

507
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: he had a huge year and they beat Oregon State,

508
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: they beat Wisconsin and who else did they beat? Johnny

509
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: there was Colorado. They beat three, you know for Fresno State.

510
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: Those are three pretty big wins at the time, especially Wisconsin,

511
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: and he just had a great year. Now they lost

512
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: to Boise, right, they lost to Boise, I'll remember, and

513
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: that kind of hurt their chances to do something much

514
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: bigger than they did. But he had a great year,

515
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: and Joey Harrington was the other guy. As we all

516
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: remember Joey Harrington at the Time Square billboard. Remember that

517
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: that's a forgotten thing. But I thought that was a

518
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: great idea to put him up in Times Square because

519
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: it's not about advertising to the people in New York.

520
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: It's just that if you put a billboard in Times

521
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: Square of Joey Harrington, the media is gonna cover it

522
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: and everyone in the world's gonna know about it. So

523
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: that was pretty cool. It's kind of like having a

524
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl commercials, not just airing it in front of

525
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: all those eyeballs. It's all the media coverage you're gonna

526
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: get having a Super Bowl commercial. So that was kind

527
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: of cool. But we all knew that David was going

528
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: to be the pick, so I don't think it was

529
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: any surprise. He seemed like the right guy, great family man.

530
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's a terrific guy. And I still think

531
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: things could have been different had they had the old

532
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: line together. Maybe it could have been different for him

533
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: going to another organization and sitting for a year. You know,

534
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: look at we talk about Pat Mahomes now, not that

535
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: David was gonna be Pat Mahomes. Don't don't confuse this,

536
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: But how much good did it do for Mahomes to

537
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: sit for a year? Maybe nothing? Maybe Mahomes would have

538
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: been awesome right out of the gate. He had to

539
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: wait behind a pretty good quarterback and Alex Smith. But

540
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: sometimes sitting is a good thing. Carson Palmer sat for

541
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: a year, you know, behind John Kittna. It happens from

542
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: time to time. Maybe it would have been good for

543
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: David to sit for a year. Yeah, I think you're

544
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: probably right. I think that absolutely would would have helped him.

545
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: He threw forty six touchdowns and right off, this is amazing.

546
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: Right out of the gate at Colorado upset. Colorado beat

547
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: Oregon State on the road, I'm sorry, beat Oregon State

548
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: at home. By twenty They were tenth in the country

549
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: at that point. Then they went two Wisconsin and beat

550
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: Wisconsin at the time was ranked twenty third in the country.

551
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: They beat Talls, Louisiana Tech, Collars State. You're right, they

552
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: lost the Boise State. They lost to Hawaii, and then

553
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: they lost to Michigan State in the bowl game, so

554
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: they ended up nine and three. Didn't he play in

555
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: Houston against Rice? I believe that year and yeah, oh

556
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: is that Fresnel? Okay, well, he played Rice and that

557
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: got a bunch of coverage here. I wasn't in the

558
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: city yet, but I remember keeping tabs on that kind

559
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: of thing, and it just seemed like he was gonna

560
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: be the quarterback. He was gonna be the guy. I

561
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: just think when they got Tony Banks, because they didn't

562
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: get him right away early on, they had Kent Graham,

563
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: and it was thought that maybe he'd be the backup.

564
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: You know, it might not have been the worst thing

565
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: in the world. Have Tony Banks start and uh and

566
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: let David sit for a while. Banks. You know, Banks

567
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: wasn't too bad. Yeah, Banks was too bad. Okay, number three?

568
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: This now, this one's gonna it's a little sad. Oh gosh,

569
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: what's you remember when rosen coopter happened in against the

570
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: Colts in two thousand and eight as a nightmare. I mean,

571
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: that was a nightmare game. That's one of the worst

572
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: losses I've ever seen. You know, you're up seventeen points

573
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: with about four thirty to go as the Colts are driving,

574
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: they score, and then you're driving and Gary Brackett returns

575
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: the rosen Coopter fumble for the touchdown, and then Sage

576
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: always says this, He's like, there was no he had

577
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: nothing left for that ensuing possession where you're still leading,

578
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: you're still up three, right, but it's over. He's at

579
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: the twenty fumbles again, and you know he's he's written

580
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: about that in the player's tribute and stuff, but he's

581
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: talked about it with us. How always just a horrible

582
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: moment for him, and it really kind of I don't

583
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: want to they ruined his career because he actually did

584
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: some things after that. They beat Jacksonville on a Monday night,

585
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: they beat Cleveland on the road, They got a three

586
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: and seven season turned around. We talked about HB and

587
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: you know the backup quarterback question that came up last night,

588
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I mean, a good backup here,

589
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: but but Rosencopter was awful because what people forget about

590
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: that game is the Texans were down ten nothing. They

591
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: were down ten nothing to the hated nemesis, the Colts,

592
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: and they end up going up seventeen with less than

593
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: five minutes to go in the game and lose. That's

594
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: how bad that loss was. Johnny, I felt like that

595
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: was the of the I kind of think about things

596
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: in three eras the obviously the early era, and then

597
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: I got here in two thousand and seven, kind of

598
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: that early two thousand and seven to two thousand you know,

599
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: pre you know, so two thousand and seven through two

600
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: thousand and ten period, and then two thousand and eleven

601
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: going forward. I felt like that was the best I

602
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: had seen that team play in that game, coming back

603
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: from ten going up seventeen, and I'm like, Sage needs

604
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: to be the guy. It was just sort of re

605
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: emphasizing how I had felt the year before, like Sage

606
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: is the guy. Every time Sage is in good things

607
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: happened I and this is where and I've tried not

608
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: to let this happen over the years, especially being in

609
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: the building, but all of us that have that Houston

610
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: fan in us sees something negative happened, and we're like, ah,

611
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: here we go. Again, and I just remember when first

612
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: of all, I'm like seeing Sage flying the air, and

613
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, and then Gary Brackett has the ball and

614
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: he's running for a touchdown, and then I just remember

615
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: just instantly when Brackett scored. I was like, I don't

616
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: want to I don't want this, but I have a

617
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: feeling we're gonna remember this one for a long time,

618
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: like we're remember this one for a long time. And

619
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: then of course the game gets called Rosencopter. It has

620
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: a name. We always remember games with names, um Hasselbeck

621
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: and a diaper, um, you know, TJ Monday Night Football,

622
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, against the Bengals. You know, we're Rosencopter. It's

623
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: stuck all these years, and I hate it because Sage

624
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: really had I felt like in those two years that

625
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: I watched, you know, seven h eight, I thought he

626
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: did really well, Like I would have trusted him to

627
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: be in the starter going into two thousand nine ten.

628
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: But that Rosencopter game. Did you think after Rosencopter that

629
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: next drive, because it takes a pretty hard fall, did

630
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: you think he was right? And by right, you know

631
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: what I mean, did you think it was right? Yeah,

632
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: that's a great question. I don't. I've not heard him

633
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: talk about that. But the ensuing possession after Rosencopter was

634
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: Slayton for one yard. Rosenfell's incomplete to Slayton and then

635
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: sacked for minus two and he fumbles. Robert Mathis got

636
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: him and recovered the fumble. But Johnny, think about this

637
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: when they're driving they're up ten. Now that's the thing.

638
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Speaker 1: And you're driving and it's third down and you gotta

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Speaker 1: thirteen and oh eight. It was third and eight at

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Speaker 1: the Colts thirty nine and Sage I think he talked

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Speaker 1: about it with us at the combine. He runs and

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Speaker 1: he thinks he's got it. He goes seven yards, they

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Speaker 1: need eight. He goes to the air to try to

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Speaker 1: get it spun around rosen Copter ball out Brackett sixty

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Speaker 1: eight yard fumble return for a touchdown, and I mean

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Speaker 1: the air just went out of the building. If you

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Speaker 1: don't get that first down. You're at the thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: You know this is this is Gary Kubiak. I don't know, Like, so,

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Speaker 1: all right, you were at the thirty nine. Now you're

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Speaker 1: at the thirty one. You're gonna kick a field goal.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what, kick a field goal?

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Speaker 1: You're up thirteen. You still don't feel good because you

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Speaker 1: have Peyton Manning on the other side getting hot. But

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Speaker 1: at least you have a thirteen point lead, you know.

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Speaker 1: You However, in defensive stage, guys trying to make a play.

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Speaker 1: You know, he goes to the area, he thinks he's

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Speaker 1: gonna make it. The worst possible thing happens, and here

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Speaker 1: we are today. I respect that more than anything else.

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Speaker 1: I respect him more anything else. He was trying to

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Speaker 1: make him play because he gets a first down there,

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Speaker 1: there's there's no telling. Yeah, there's no telling. What you know,

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Speaker 1: they're able to do and get a win that day.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna change his history. Maybe he's the starter, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's the starter for a while. Because Shab didn't

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Speaker 1: play that day because he was sick and he wanted

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Speaker 1: to play. But they said they worked him out. But

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Speaker 1: they're like, you're not right. They thought he wasn't right,

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Speaker 1: so he didn't play because he was sick. And I

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Speaker 1: remember the frustration because Matt the first year got hurt

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Speaker 1: a couple of times. A second year, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: are you gonna stay healthy? You gotta stay healthy for

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Speaker 1: us here, So clearly was a problem. Okay, now number

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Speaker 1: four turns out to be a loss, But this moment

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Speaker 1: in that loss, you're making me so thrilled and involved

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Speaker 1: Sage again. Oh jeez, what you remember when Sage hit

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Speaker 1: Andre Davis to give the Texans a lead versus the

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Speaker 1: Titans in two thousand and seven after trailing thirty two

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Speaker 1: to seven in the fourth quarter. I was freaking out.

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Speaker 1: That was such a great comeback. I mean that that

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Speaker 1: was one for the Ages right there. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we're just talking about the whole Sage and Shop thing.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember if Matt gets hurt in that game

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Speaker 1: or if Sage starts that game. I really need to

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Speaker 1: look this up. But they're down big, they're down big,

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00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: and Sage finds a way to bring them back. I'm

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Speaker 1: pulling it up. I'm pulling it up right now to

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Speaker 1: torture myself. Shop did start, and so he must have

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Speaker 1: gotten hurt. He was five for nine stage comes in

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Speaker 1: throws for two hundred and ninety yards, four touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: three picks. That's the thing, man. He did throw some interceptions.

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Speaker 1: He would sling it around and you know, often good

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Speaker 1: things happen, sometimes bad. But Rob Baronis that day had

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Speaker 1: eight field goals in the NFL record. And after Andre

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Speaker 1: Davis catches the fifty three yard or you have forty

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Speaker 1: seconds left, so you have no chance to lose this one, right,

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Speaker 1: you have forty seconds left. All you gotta do, all

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Speaker 1: you gotta do, all you gotta do. And it was

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Speaker 1: carry Collins. It was Carry Collins. It was not Vince.

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Speaker 1: It was not Vince. It was Carrie freaking Collins. But

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Speaker 1: when when he hits Andre Williams, oh oh oh, when

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Speaker 1: he hits when he hits Andrey Davis, when he hits

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Speaker 1: Andre David place, a lot of the fans had left

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Speaker 1: because you're down so big. But the one there made mark.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the media had left. You know why

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Speaker 1: I was. I was on that far end, you know

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Speaker 1: Adam Wexley was there and maybe one other person and

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Speaker 1: what is cardinal rule number one in the press box?

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Speaker 1: Don't cheer? Don't cheer. He caught that ball and we

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Speaker 1: went nuts. We all went ballistic, and it was more like,

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Speaker 1: did you just see what happened? Because Mark, through three

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Speaker 1: quarters of that game, through three quarters of that game,

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Speaker 1: it was the worst I'd ever seen. I'm making notes

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Speaker 1: to absolutely skewer this team for what it did in

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Speaker 1: the first three quarters. And I'm looking at the drive

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Speaker 1: chart right now, Mark, and the drive chart in that game,

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Speaker 1: nine drives nine there were two two total first downs.

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Speaker 1: They gained negative one yards a yard eleven one, eight,

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Speaker 1: and the only drive that went more than four play

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Speaker 1: Then in the fourth quarter nine for seventy touchdown, seven

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Speaker 1: for ninety three touchdown, and then there was interception twelve

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Speaker 1: for seventy five touchdown, three for sixty one touchdown. It

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Speaker 1: Mark is the weirdest looking drive chart ever. But when

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Speaker 1: he hit Andre Davis. I just remember the press box

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Speaker 1: actually cheered because we could not believe what had happened.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so you have less than a minute left.

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Speaker 1: Kerry Collins, Uh what is he gets a first down,

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Speaker 1: but then they go incomplete? Incomplete It's third and ten

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Speaker 1: from the Titan thirty seven. Just make a stop. Yeah, nope,

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Speaker 1: forty six yard pass downfield Williams pushed out of bounds

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Speaker 1: by Von Hutchins. Oh my gosh, what a name. And

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Speaker 1: then uh baronas field goal to win it. I mean

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Speaker 1: that that passed along the sanchline just like knife through

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Speaker 1: the heart. Nights are making me feel so good today.

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Speaker 1: This is great, I know, I know, but when Andre

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Speaker 1: Davis makes that touchdown, that was kind of the whole

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Speaker 1: point you felt, you felt some kind of way now

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Speaker 1: it went. That was what happened. Yeah, that was one

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Speaker 1: of the best feelings, you know, And that's a loss

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Speaker 1: that reminds you of say, you know, Seattle with with Watson,

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Speaker 1: those where you have the lead Philly and you can't

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Speaker 1: make that final stop the Saints. Um it's it was

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Speaker 1: one of those. And you know we've seen a few. Look,

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Speaker 1: any NFL team has this kind of stuff. Maybe not

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Speaker 1: I've told the story before, Andre and I We're going

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764
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Speaker 1: Pacific time, so you're doing the show at four am, right, jeez.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, at the airport, we saw Rob Boronis's mother

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Speaker 1: you know. He died a few years back, and I

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Speaker 1: But Mark, if Deshan Philip Rivers Ryan Tannehill get the

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