WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Around the Block? 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.040 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:15.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Boys. Let's go. Are 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.280 you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.440 a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:27.280 much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:33.400 Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:39.240 Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, December Night, twenty 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.400 twenty one, Season seventeen, Episode or seventy five. Welcome to 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.640 the latest edition of The Break. We're live from the 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.879 s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Nick, give me 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:52.080 a seventy five. It's going good. Jethrope was really good player. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:56.440 But uh, you know Philipos Derek. Yeah, you ever heard 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.520 of him? Bill? Yeah, No, you haven't. You never heard 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.200 of him. I've heard the name. But you know, Anthony 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.720 Brown's had some games where we hear his name a lot, 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.800 and Connor Williams has had a game. The most famous 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.600 one was phil Pose Derek. We keep hearing about LT. 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.720 Lawrence Taylor. Maybe Mica is gonna be then Eltic maybe. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:14.600 But there was a game I think it was like 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.680 nineteen eighty six where the Cowboys probably got four first 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.679 downs on one drive to try to win the game, 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:24.240 and every time was holding seventy five holding. He couldn't 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.480 block Lawrence Taylor Man, Okay, sorry, he couldn't. But like 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.039 they were, they were driving for the win, and it 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:33.480 was like three or four in a row of just 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.520 holding seventy five seventy five. So that's the one I 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.840 remember the most. I mean, jeth Rope was a great player, 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.160 and Tony Castillus was pretty good. But Philip pos Derek 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.399 seventy five, let's just call him phil Pose. He doesn't 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:50.560 deserve Derek. All right, let's move on. Geez let hell, 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:55.240 I'm an askue right there. That was pretty good. Yeah, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.280 let's talk about some injuries. Many let's not have a 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.040 few injuries that I think we should uh, I think 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:06.440 we should mention. Um, Yesterday, obviously Cowboys signed Edo Smith. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.600 I don't know when they did it, but it happened 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.720 within the last few days. Um. And then the tone 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.639 the we find out that Tony Pollard didn't practice yesterday 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.720 with a foot injury. My first thought is I'm sure 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.120 a lot of people was was like, does this mean something? 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.000 About was the signing of Edo Smith? About the fact 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.120 that Tony Pollard was out, Does that mean maybe he's 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.400 not playing this weekend? What what are we hearing as 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.200 far as what's happened with the running back position? Thanks 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.280 for making me feel smart. I asked Mike McCarthy that said, 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:34.839 did you sign this guy because you're worried about Zeke 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:38.240 and Tony? And he sort of danced around it and 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:39.960 said a bunch of other stuff. But yeah, I mean, 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:43.160 that's that's why it's an insurance signing. He's a guy 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.440 that they liked in twenty eighteen as a draft prospect. 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.080 Both of their running backs are dealing with things. But 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.760 he also said he thinks they're both gonna play, Like 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.400 the expectation is that Tony's gonna play. He didn't practically, Yeah, 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.080 Zeke's him any if the drag Zeke off the field, 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.600 That's what he said. Um, and I've also heard some 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.160 things and then they end up not to be the case. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.760 It's very fair. It's very fair. I mean, at this point, 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.440 I don't feel confident about it, and that's why Edo 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.640 Smith is here. I think like they are going to 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.399 monitor Tony for the rest of the week. He didn't practice, 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.520 but he was out there he was in uniform, like 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.239 he was sitting up somewhere with his foot up. No, yeah, exactly, 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.120 Like there's differences between like the two dnps can be different. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.720 Like Tony was out there in uniform working with Britt, 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.960 jogging around, working on his legs, So that's different from 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.960 just not being out there at all. So watch him 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.320 this week and maybe you need to lean on Edo 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.080 Smith or maybe you don't. I mean, dan Quinn coached 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.200 him for three years in Atlanta, so he knows him. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.120 And I'm sure you know his opinion was was you know, 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.440 asked about this, so you know, maybe he's better than 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.560 Corey Clement. I don't know. Clement's giving him a lot 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:57.120 on special teams, plays a lot on the special teams units. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.200 And so yeah, well if Tony can't play, he will 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.960 probably want three running backs. So that's so you would 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:07.040 have Clement. And you know, I think he's gonna play too. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.000 I do this every week. I'm like, yeah, I think 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:14.280 he's playing. Zeke's definitely playing. I mean he when the 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.080 guy comment, you can't make that comment, can't make that comment. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.360 Not play. But this isn't a new injury. He's been 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.600 playing with it, so I wonder though, like if you're 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.920 like the training staff, you know, you're like, listen, if 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:28.919 we if we'll drag you off, if we if you 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:30.039 know what I mean? Like he was like they have 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.440 to drag me off. It's like, well, if you're not 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.320 gonna play, we will. I gotta fill in the brips, 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.200 Like all right, is that what we need to do? 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.440 Because if we decide that you're not playing, then that's 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.760 what we're gonna have to do. I'm like, okay, but 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.640 it's you know, it's a great quote when he said 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.440 it was like, okay, this will be a story. Yeah, 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.960 and it was. I love those moments. We had one 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.760 today too. I want to talk about that? Sure, why not? 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:50.240 I was gonna put it on the on the thing 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.080 for tomorrow, but we talk about tomorrow too. But go ahead, 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.919 last thing he said or not? Yeah he said the 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.760 last thing. No, it's not. What was the last thing 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:02.359 he chatty Kathy way before that? Yeah, right before that, 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:08.440 net Man, that's you know that the day's vocabulary is 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.000 that is such where it just just glosses. Right. They 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:12.880 didn't even like he didn't even really hear it. It's 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.760 just he gave him a good day, he gave him 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.360 a g D A good day. Oh I love Mike McCarthy, 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.040 so right, he's that's my kind of guy. I just 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.719 I mean, it's amazing. I don't swear more on the 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.680 podcast honestly because thank you, that's just how I talk. No, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:32.040 that didn't even register with me. I was like, yeah, sure, whatever, Mike. 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.560 He just it's just one of those sound bites that 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.000 make sure eyebrows raised, where he's like, we're gonna win 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.440 the game. I feel confident in that. And then the 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.840 media gave him every opportunity to kind of back down. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.960 They were like, kind of you're giving no, this is 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.600 gonna be on every talk show. Yeah, basically, and he 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:49.800 was like, what do you want me to say? Like 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.640 I've which he couched it really well. He was like, 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.000 I expect to win every game that I've ever played 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.719 in my career. Like that's what I mean. Yeah, it's 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.359 hard to do, but that is how you're tired if 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.640 you're in the NFL. But it's a good sound Bye. 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.680 It's gonna make the rounds. Oh yeah, you know, it's 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.320 gonna be on every talk show, it's gonna be on 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.840 every radio show. But the fact is he's right, Like, 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.240 if a player or a coach goes into a game 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.480 and doesn't think they're gonna win, there's probably something wrong 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:17.400 with that. And as I thought, matters the classic hypocrisy 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.440 of media where we're like, you're so boring, you never 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.560 say anything, and then Mike McCarthy's like, yeah, I think 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.680 we're gonna win the game, and everybody's like, sir, how 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.000 could you say something so audacious? Like oh, I just 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.719 I saw the tweets coming, Like Mike McCarthy says like, yeah, 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.000 it's gonna be. It's gonna be everywhere. And but I 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:36.720 like it. I like the confidence. I like that he's 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:38.720 willing to say it and we'll see if they can 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.800 back it up on Sunday. He's still he's a football 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.440 coach at the end of the day, and like they're 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.800 they're trying to be boring and not give you a ton. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.440 But I love working with Mike McCarthy, Like he'll he'll 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.400 throw a gd out there on you know, he'll tell 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.599 you a funny story about Pittsburgh. He'll you know, he 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.880 got up today and was like, yeah, I missed you guys. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.880 It's pretty far down the list of things I missed 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:00.720 about being at work. But you know, he's just but 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.560 it's on the list. He's fun to work with. I 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.280 like it all right, talk to me about the wide 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.280 receiver position because all of a sudden, Dallas is kind 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.280 of back in a situation where some of their depth 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.560 might be affected. Noah Brown, what's up with his groin injury? 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.280 It's a two week injury, a couple week injury, That's 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.320 what Mike said. I'm not gonna play this week. I'm 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.520 gonna play this week where they with Cedric Wilson with 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.400 the ankle he was limited yesterday. Being limited at the 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.040 start of the week is always a good sign in 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.320 my eyes. Um, So they'll keep an eye on it. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.920 But the big three are all as healthy as they like, 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.720 he said. He said today like he doesn't anticipate that 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.520 Amari Cooper would need a snap a pitch count this week. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.040 So you got all three of them, good to go, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.960 Malik Turner, Semi Pajoko and the fact that Cedric is 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.880 limited at the outset of the week is good. So 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.520 I'm not overly worried about it. Good. As long as 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.679 you got the top three, you feel pretty good. Yeah, 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.120 you know, Brown is now I mean I think Cedric 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:58.640 I forgot his name, Cedric Wilson. Malik Turners, Okay, Malik Turner. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.560 I mean he can do that. He's a special teams guy. 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.920 He can do the things Noah Brown is doing. Yeah, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.440 I think probably better. I've actually been a little disappointed 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.840 with Noah Brown over the time when the when Amari 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.480 was out, I expected more of him. Yeah, he it 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.840 was all working toward that moment, Like he had a 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.720 great training camp, he's he's been a very useful player 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.040 for them in the role that they had for him, 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.240 and he got a bigger opportunity and he didn't, you know, 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.920 he didn't do anything. This is year fifth five, Yeah, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.920 seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty. Yeah, and by the way, I 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.560 was joking on fifth, but it really is his fifth year. Yeah. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.000 I wasn't really expecting him to do like like takeover games. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.200 What I was disappointed in is the number of drops, 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:40.960 a number of opportunities he had that he just you know, 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.440 he had a few catch had He's had the most 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.280 contested catch you've ever seen in college football. Like he's 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.520 brought one of the greatest catches ever, which is ironic 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.760 because like he doesn't catch the ball well on contested 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.880 plays like that, which it always seems like it's third, 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.040 third and eight, it's over the middle, and it's like 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.280 he didn't get it, And of course I'm thinking my stuff, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:01.840 like why are you throwing it to Noah Brown? Even 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.480 though he's made enough plays where you can kind of 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.160 get past that, But I still say it in my 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:10.440 head every time and sometimes out loud, but I'm just like, yeah, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:11.960 it's like, why are you throwing it? He was like 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.040 he's made plays before, you know, but yeah, he just 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.120 doesn't come up with that ball and that, you know, 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.559 if I had to guess, he probably had four opportunities 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.840 at big plays like whether it's a third down conversion 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.920 or whatever, over the course of the time that Lamb 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.720 and Amari weren't healthy, and he just he didn't make them. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.880 And it's disappointed because like, I love Noah Brown, I 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.559 love what the role that he's had and what he's 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.679 done for them. He had a great train camp, just 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.120 didn't show up when the moment came and that and 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.760 Malik Turner conversely, has like he's made some of those 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.959 like yeah, it's garbage time against Denver, but he had 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.480 that nice fourth quarter, and he's made some other plays 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.079 in these last few games where if for some reason 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.520 you need somebody other than the big three on the field, 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.280 i'd probably feel best about Well, I feel better about 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.440 him than Noah Brown put it that way him. I agree. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.079 All right, we're gonna take our first break. We come back. 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.160 We'll be joined by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. We'll 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.360 talk about the Washington defense versus the Cowboys offense. 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Bucky, let's talk this Washington defense 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.240 versus the Cowboys offense. And I want to start with 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.880 the fact that it seems like this Washington defense got 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.719 better after they lost their best player, Chase Young. They 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.679 also will be without Montes Sweat. Talk to me about 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.199 what has changed from the beginning of the season to 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.240 really the last four games, when it seems like this 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.880 defense is now started being the defense that most of 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:02.800 us expected them to be when the season began. The 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.560 lesser players are doing their jobs and playing within the 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.280 framework of the defense. Mates Sweat and Chase Young were 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.280 They had a lot of conversation prior to the year 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.600 about chasing Chris Doleman and Keith him on Lard's duo 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.840 sack record, and so they were kind of getting out 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.880 of swords trying to make plays and they compromise the 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.040 integrity of the defense. Those guys have been removed, and 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.600 so now you have guys that are playing the scheme 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.320 the way that it was designed to be played, and 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.120 so they're doing their jobs. Everyone's fitting in their gaps, 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.360 and they're playing better defense because because of it. Bucky 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.160 wrote an article this week on our website about your 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.240 five bucks, and one of them was that you thought 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.319 it's it's Pollard time. When when you're saying that, are 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.480 you thinking he needs the bulk of the carries, he 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.280 needs more carries, or that you just need to figure 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:51.880 out ways to get him the ball even more. Now 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:53.560 he has to get the ball even more. I'm not 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.600 saying that Deek needs to be Zeke needs to be 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.360 removed from the equation, but it's obvious when you kind 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.280 of just track the numbers and just look at the 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.120 big plays per touch, like he's a big play performer, 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.040 and so you would like to think if you give 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.200 him more touches and more opportunities, he'll deliver more big plays. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.319 And we're reaching a critical juncture of the season where 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.200 you also want to think about how can you preserve 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.480 Zeke for the postseason run. How can you make it 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.320 where he is beginning to play at his best when 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.960 you get close in into the tournament, And so one 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:25.440 of the ways you can do is kind of level 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.040 the playing field when it comes to the number of 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.200 carries that you're distributing to both guys. So I think 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.240 Tony pollit needs to be a bigger part of the 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.800 game plan. That's also me Nudge and Kellen Moore a 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.320 man room to running game. Don't get so carried away 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.480 where you start throwing it all over the yard, because 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.800 December is when the running game has to be a 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.560 factor because that's the only way for you to control 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:47.920 the action. Bucky, the memories and are still fresh in 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.400 my mind of Chris Jones rag dalling this offensive line 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:55.040 in Kansas City. Can you make me feel better about 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.160 them going against Jonathan Allen and Dron Payne, Or if 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.000 you can't make me feel better about out it, can 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:06.560 you give me some ideas for how to mitigate that one. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.920 I can suggest that you get a bank youre pacifier, 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:13.840 because I can't make you feel better at the point 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.440 of its sad. I can tell you that it's gonna 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.680 be a tough one. And I think the big thing 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.800 when you're dealing with Washington, all the teams in the 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:25.080 nfcas this is a challenge. The interior is probably the 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.360 best part for most of those other teams, like the 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.600 defensive tackles are the ones that are able to get 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.320 it done. And so for the Cowboys, they got to 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:36.120 find a way to control the interior part of the line. 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.440 If they can control the interior part of the line 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.200 where they can run it and throw it and Deck 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.880 doesn't have people write it is lap, you know, then 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.720 this is a game where the Cowboys should be able 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.920 to have their way. But it's all up front. Man. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.720 The games that the next five games on the horizon, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.000 they all be decided that the line of scrimmage and 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.920 typically be the offense person the defense of the opponent. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.560 Other than that, I mean, is there another area of 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:03.200 concern certain for the Cowboys offense that you're looking at. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.280 I mean, look, I think in anything, I think the 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.800 Cowboys want to operate with a level of balance. You 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:12.520 want to make sure that you're able to run the ball, 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.160 but in the balance is also in the distribution of 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.400 the targets. And it doesn't mean that it's always going 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.640 to be even every game, but you just want to 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.680 make sure that now that you got the entire game 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.000 back together, you have Michael Gallup, you have a Maori Cooper, 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.440 you also have Cde Lamb. You want to make sure 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.200 that those guys are actively involved in the game plan 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:31.920 because you need all of them. Because you can make 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.000 teams defend all three wire receivers plus the tight end 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.680 and the running game man. The advantages go to the 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:42.080 Cowboys in those situations. Bucky, this offense has been one 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.600 that started the season, and I think everybody was keenly 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.400 aware of how good they were. Over the last several weeks, 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.080 I think that FRA impression has gone down. Some people 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.600 point to Dak not playing as well. Some people point 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.440 to the receivers not getting separation. Others point to the 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.600 offensive line, the running backs, like there's everybody is getting 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.640 some lame from someone. What do you think is the 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.280 biggest challenge of the biggest problem right now for this 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:10.160 Cowboys offense, Well, the biggest problem like the month where 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.120 they didn't play well is I mean, you had injuries 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.000 that took away the primary playmakers. I mean, when you 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.280 play without two of your top receivers, it's gonna be 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:19.880 hard to move the ball. And I heard you guys 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.399 talking about Noah Brown and other guys. Man, there's a 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.879 big drop off between number one and number two, and 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.560 then when three, four and five sliding, when those guys 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.200 are elevated, it changes. And so with Amari Cooper, Cedee 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.160 Lamb back, Michael Gallaback on the perimeter, it's the first 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.800 opportunity that we've really seen the entire crew back together 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.520 now when they get healthy. You like the thing that 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.600 they can roll. But this is a team that is 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:43.520 good enough to still do the special stuff that we 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.679 think about. Oh, I want to I want you to 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.240 clarify that you said there's a big difference between one 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.640 and two, or it's a big difference between one, two 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.480 and three, four and five. Now I'm just saying in 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.760 the general pecking order, like when you have a number 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.400 one receiver, it's a huge difference between being a number 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.120 one and the number or two. Look, I would say 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.080 that the Cowboys have two number ones and CD and 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.920 Maury Cooper. But every time you drop down or run, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.360 it's a huge talent disparity in terms of being able 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.919 to handle the roles because when you're the number one receiver, 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.160 that means even if you're a double team, you get 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.119 untilted coverage your way, you still should be able to thrive. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.600 Those guys that are threes and fours typically can't can't 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:27.080 handle that kind of situation. This is it's useful. Obviously 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.000 they're in the division, so they're playing the same teams. 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.480 We saw the Bucks have plenty of success against the 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.800 Cowboys through the air. Raiders did it to Washington, held 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.840 both of those guys below twenty points, And I'm just 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.560 curre like, what what what's the overall theme of that? 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.600 Like are they doing all of this with pressure or 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.800 or are they getting takeaways in these games? Like what 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:53.720 has been the formula for what's enabled them to hold 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:59.840 these explosive offenses to such a low point. Total coverage 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.720 coverage has been good. They're throwing a blanket over everybody. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.560 If you know Jack there, you know he's not one 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.760 that is really a big fan of listening. They want 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:08.760 to sit back and rush forward. They want to drop seven. 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:10.399 They want to keep the ball in front of the defense. 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.720 They want to bog you down and the red zone 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:14.879 and make you kick field goals as ipposed to score seven. 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.320 What has been better is they got more effort and 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.639 energy up front that has been able to kind of 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:23.320 create the chaos. And obviously we talked yesterday about the 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:27.120 long drives from offense. Well they're playing keepaway. I mean 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.160 you have fifteen seventeen nineteen play drives on offense, your 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.320 defenses and exposed on the field, the game shrinks. What 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.200 the Washington football team wants to do, they want to 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.080