1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: dot Com. The Giants part of the Giants Podcast Network. 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to the latest edition of the Giants Huddle Podcast. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm Lance Meadow. As we were continuing to break down 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: the two thousand twenty two draft class. The Giants had 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: a pair of third round picks this year and with 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: their second selection eight first overall, they took L s 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: U corner Cordell Flot To get more into Flot and 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: what he'll bring to the Giants were joined by a 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: man who coached him for all three of his seasons 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: at L s U as his positional coach. He's now 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: the assistant head coach and cornerbacks coach at Florida. He 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: also played six seasons in the NFL as a corner 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: including three with the New York Football Giants from two 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: to four. And that is none other than Corey Raymond. Coach. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: Got Lance Meadow here on Giants dot Com. Greatly appreciate 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: the time today hope poll as well. How's everything on 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: your end? Everything good? In that season of recruiting, you 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: don't trying to find another guy? Absolutely the football side, 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: Schael never ends, as you can attest to. So we 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: certainly appreciate you giving us some time today. And let's 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: start with flat because this is a player that you 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: moved around, especially in two thousand twenty one at l 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: s U. He has experienced outside corner slock corner safety. 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: What about his skill set, coach enabled you to have 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: the flexibility to have him assume multiple spots. Yeah, skill 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: set because of just him being a smart player, and 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: that's better allowed him to be able to do different things. 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: And him being also a smart, smart player. I mean 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: he he pakes of defense as well. He understands a 31 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: lot of different things that happening out there. I mean 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: he has, like I said, has great instincts, has has 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: an understan of the game. So he has all those 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: attributes that's going to help him. The other thing that 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: jumps out just about his makeup is his length when 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: it comes to the cornerback position. And that's something that 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: you played on the highest level. Why is length so 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: critical and how does he take advantage of that length? 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: You know, Atlantis Now it makes a court that makes 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: it the harder throw for quarterbacks. You know, having left 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: that they the ball got to be perfect because of 42 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: just the long arms, the body position, uh, the different things. 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: And also because you know, the longer receivers, the taller receivers. 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: But the thing that helps Cordell's he's even though he's 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: long and till, he's a very twitchy guy. So he 46 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: could play like he's a five guy, uh, five nine 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: guy because of just his quickness and everything. But having 48 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: that size that makes it even a better attribute be twitchy, 49 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: being a twitchy person, well, speeding of what you just 50 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: described in terms of him maybe playing a little bit smaller, 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: how beneficial was that in terms of you utilizing him 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: in the slot when he has to go against those smaller, 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: shifty wide receivers. That's why that was good that he 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: made his head because of just because of his quickness 55 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: and his understanding of the game, understanding those leverages, um, 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: you know, just those things and also being in the 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: rush for it at the same time too. Now, when 58 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: it comes to the Giants defense, coach Wink Martindale their 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator. Based on his principles what he's run 60 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, he relies heavily on classic man to man 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: cover corners. It seems as if what you ran at 62 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: LSU plays right into cordelle flat strength. How much of 63 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: a similarity between what you ran at LSU in terms 64 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: of putting him in a position where he has to 65 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: play a lot of man to man you think we'll 66 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: carry over to what the Giants are going to ask 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: him to do well to help is his his maturation 68 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: that playing playing in the NFL by understanding how to 69 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: play man, you know, just not relying on his athleticism, 70 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: but understanding how the player using your leverages, using uh 71 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: different types of UH techniques. As you know that he's 72 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna get taught and you know the things that he's 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: been taught uh doing all those things, that's gonna make 74 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: him be more advanced, you know, because he's had pressure. 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: You know, when you playing man covers, the's a lot 76 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: of pressure on. So he's had that pressure being in 77 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: those moments well, and you bring up a great point 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: because when you're in a defense like that, you're essentially 79 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: left on an island because even if you get the 80 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: help with the pass rush, you still need to have 81 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: your assignment. How much is that more maybe mental than 82 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: physical when it comes to an assignment that playing the 83 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: cornerback position on the outside like that exactly very mental 84 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: um because it's all about body position, body position and 85 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: food work and eye transition. You know, everything is is 86 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: all those things that I gotta go at one time 87 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: because sometimes you can't becoming a guy. But he can't 88 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: catch the bull. But you gotta better make the table. 89 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: But now I know to make that tapple, you gotta 90 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: I think with the proper food work. The next thing 91 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: you has understanding what you's got. You might be on 92 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback when your quarterback transition uh to the receiver. 93 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: Now you've got a job when you receive. And now 94 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: you gotta understand what ankles he's going to break out 95 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: of and turn him to make up, make him, make 96 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: him play itself, or you know him coming in out 97 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: anticipating him coming in and out his brakes. I understanding 98 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: where to look at where he's coming in out his brakes. 99 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: One of the things that we look at statistic wise 100 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to evaluating corners is whether or not 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: they were opportunistic. Now in Cordelle Flats experience just one 102 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: interception coach in three seasons. I guess what I'm getting 103 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: at is why perhaps does that's statistic not necessarily tell 104 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: the whole story in terms of what he could do 105 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: on the NFL level. Yeah, when when you are more 106 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: of a press team, you've either got most of your 107 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: press corners. There did not many big big interception guy. 108 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: But you look whenever they gets to get off, they 109 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: get their you know, get their eyes on the quarterback. 110 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: And now you see that because that's what it gets 111 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: to do in that defense. Sometime they'll be pressed playing 112 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: man and sometimes they'll be off. Now you'll be able 113 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: to see more plays. Where he came from, we were 114 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: more with the coordinators were likely to do, you know, 115 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 1: in the beginning his first two years until the last 116 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: bit of the year. Uh, they were more like one 117 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: of our guys to press being people face. Uh you 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: know no uh contest bones you know. No that you 119 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: say gives the quarterback no windows? You know what I'm saying, 120 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: no free access those don't miss your chance to experience 121 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: a premier hospitality experience watching Giants games, world class concerts 122 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: in two as a Giant Sweet partner. Limited full season 123 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: locations are available or plays a deposit for individual games 124 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: called e n Y Give of his a Giant com 125 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: slash suites for more information. Sure, no, that makes one 126 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: hundred percent sense. And also understanding what it means to 127 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: be in that position and just make plays and not 128 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: necessarily get caught up in terms of whether or not 129 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: you're getting the turnovers. Brings me to his background and 130 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: his experience, because when he was in high school, coach, 131 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,559 Speaker 1: from what I understand, he was a two way player. 132 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: He was a wide receiver and a corner. And we've 133 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: seen even getting to the NFL level, we've seen players 134 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: convert from wide receiver to cornerback. For example, Trayvon Digs 135 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: who's now with the Dallas Cowboys, was a wide receiver 136 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: at Alabama and then turned into a very good corner. 137 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: What I'm getting at is when you have a player 138 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: who witnessed what football was like on the opposite side, 139 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: how much better prepared does that allow them to fully 140 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: understand than covering wide receivers? You know, Well, now he 141 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: can understand what receivers are thinking because he's been a receiver, 142 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: so he can see different types of spits that they are. Uh. 143 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: That to make him understand what's about to happen because 144 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: he's been twitter in that position. Uh, you know, so 145 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: that as a little bit things happening because he can 146 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: understand what they're about to do by playing the position 147 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: in high school and understanding the position and also understanding 148 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: formation because you know that in certain formations receivers gonna 149 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: run certain problems, and he knows that being the friends 150 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: and being in those formations being or being a receiver, 151 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, the roster was gonna get. Speaking of understanding 152 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: football formations, when it comes to the quarterback position, it's 153 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: not just necessarily covering the wide receiver, but also they're 154 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: asked to assist in terms of stopping the run. How 155 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: much did you ask him to take on a role 156 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: like that at L s U And where do you 157 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: see perhaps his biggest growth in that department? Well, yeah, 158 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: we made showing like every corner that you know, maybe 159 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: the off coach you don't say, we want to understand 160 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: how to play both the run in the past, um 161 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: understand how to fit the run understanding you know, he'll 162 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: understand what's you know, the defensive fronts. You know understand that. 163 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: You know, he'll understand what the three technique was a 164 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: five thing, he was six techniques and he'll understand where 165 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: his gaps that because now it's because sometimes you know, 166 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: when he's on the gas moves so now you know 167 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: the gaps moves, so you'll have a little bit understanding 168 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: that that. In terms of the dynamics within the defense, 169 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: we always talk about when you have good cover guys, 170 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: it helps the pass rush get home. And when you 171 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: have great pass rush guys, obviously it makes the job 172 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: of the cornerbacks easier. And I think for people that 173 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily follow l SU very closely last season, coaches, 174 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: you can attest to you dealt with a lot of 175 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: injuries on the back end, and I'm sure you had 176 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: to move a lot of guys around as a result, 177 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: including obviously Cordell flot How much did the adversity that 178 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: he faced last season you think really show a great 179 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: deal of growth in his play. Yeah, it was something 180 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: that he you know, a lot a lot of times. 181 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: You know, you only learned through adversity, and I think 182 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: some some of those things that happened to us some 183 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: things we couldn't control um, but that helped him in 184 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: the help was going to help him in the long 185 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: run to become a better understanding of the game because 186 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: he had to do multiple things, so he has to 187 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: saying the multiplicity of the defense, and that made him 188 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: like I said, it made him a better make him 189 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: a better player in the long run, and I think 190 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: that's when he'll be able to adapt to the NFL 191 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: and understand how to be a pro. You know what 192 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's the biggest thing. And I think that's 193 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: what he's gonna gonna bring to the table. I understand 194 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: how to be a pro, understanding doing all the things 195 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: in off season, study and watching film, doing all those 196 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: little things. That's gonna you know, I want to set 197 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: him before well. On a related note to that, and 198 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: you obviously understand the ins and outs of the transition 199 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: from college to the pros from an off the field standpoint, 200 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: what was his interaction like with teammates in and out 201 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: of the locker room and how much do you think 202 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: as you saw his progression he developed more of a 203 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: voice and more of a leadership role within the team. Yeah, 204 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: he had to become because we had some guys get hurt. 205 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: They were the leaders and getting all of a sudden, 206 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: he he had to become a leader where he would 207 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: he would be on guys and they wouldn't practicing right, 208 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: or he'll hold his own self of commor boy. He 209 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: didn't practice right so that was one of the things 210 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: that that that's when I saw the maturity in him 211 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: where he would get on guys and be like, come on, 212 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: let's go, let's get better all the time. You gotta 213 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: owe me Accommo boy, you know. So he started doing 214 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: those things and and he saw the progression from there. 215 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: We're talking with former l s U quarterbacks coach Corey Raymond, 216 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: who also played for the New York Giants. He coached 217 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: Giants third around pick Cordell FLD at l s U 218 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: for the three seasons that he was there. And in 219 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: addition to your connection, coach, coincidentally to Flood, another one 220 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: of your former players just joined the Giants as they 221 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: signed Darren Evans as an undrafted rookie who also got 222 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot of an opportunity in two thousand twenty one 223 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: due to the injuries. What jumped out to you about 224 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: Evans considering he didn't initially started l s U. He 225 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: was a grad transfer from Nickels State. No, Well, Lenthon speed, 226 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: you know he has you know, he's a total guy, 227 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: but he has lefty speed, and um, you know, I 228 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: think that was the best thing for him to do 229 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: was come to us. So now he understood how to 230 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, get into some different big games and now 231 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: his transition is gonna be a little easier for him. Um, 232 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: I mean he played well for as the time he 233 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: played in the game. Um, he worked on in all season. Um. 234 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: I think dis guys named for him. Now, you yourself 235 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: joined the Giants as an undrafted player in two So 236 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: if anybody can relate to the challenges and your success 237 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: story because you made the team and you played for 238 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: them for three seasons, what's your best advice to a 239 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: guy like Darren Evans who understands when you're not drafted, 240 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: clearly you have a lot of people in front of 241 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: you on the depth chart and it's a little bit 242 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: more challenging to ultimately make the fifty three man roster. Well, 243 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 1: the thing is studying, you know, studying your playbox or 244 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: whenever you're out there, you know what to do. That's 245 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: a big thing. Going there in practice hard, um, and 246 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, take the coaching, you know what I'm saying, 247 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. And practicing hard. I mean, and 248 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you have a fire, you know, a 249 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: fire on you because sometimes guys get drafted there are 250 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: not better than you. So, and that's the thing he 251 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: I think you'll have that far he's seeing guys go 252 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: in other places, go there, we're better than him. So 253 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: if that's just this motivation. Now, speaking of motivation, I 254 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: want to go back to Flood because may be unlike Evans, 255 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: who has a little bit more competition, Flott could very 256 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: well walk into a situation. Coaches the Giants just recently 257 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: part of ways with James Bradberry, one of their veteran corners. 258 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: They're starting spots up for grabs immediately in two thousand 259 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: twenty two. How much do you think Flot is ready 260 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: to immediately grasp a role like that, whether it be 261 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: on the inside or the outside, based on his experience 262 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: at L s U. Well, I think he'll be able 263 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: to do it because of just being in that you know, 264 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: coming from you know the conference you played in. Uh 265 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: it may Matt. You know he had the hard because 266 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, you have to go against some guys that 267 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: you you're going against NFL guys and practice every day. 268 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: But Paus every week you met, you're gonna you know, 269 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: it might not be a first round, but it's a 270 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: draftable guy you played every week. And I think he's 271 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: he's been in a fire, and I think that's that's 272 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: what's gonna help him. So the speed of the game. 273 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's because that's what he'll be able to 274 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: adjust to the speed of the game. So it get him, 275 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, probably get him going faster, you know. For 276 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: his thing is just speaking of being thrown into the 277 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: fire and understanding the speed of the game. When he 278 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: spoke to the New York Media right after he was drafted, 279 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: he was introduced with fellow SEC player Kentucky wide out 280 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: wan Dell Robinson, who the Giants took in the second round, 281 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: and flat had mentioned that that was probably the toughest 282 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver that he went up against this past season 283 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: because of how shifty and quick he is. You as 284 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: a coach, you were preparing them to deal with one 285 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: Del Robinson. I'm curious, what was it like scouting WANDL 286 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: Robinson and going up against him and knowing what he 287 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: could potentially bring to the Giants. Yes, man, he brings 288 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: a lot to the Giants and they did a good 289 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: job with him, you know, moving him around, not being 290 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: just an outside guy. We gotta be ex He's a 291 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: move guy, and that's that's what he can make his 292 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: space basis his his biggest threads to people because his 293 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: quickness and his ability to break tackles and his ability 294 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: to do by people. I mean he I thought he 295 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: was a really good player. I like with the way 296 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: to use him, to use them in the work in 297 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: the right way, and that's why he was able to 298 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: do the things that he's did. Giant season tickets are 299 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: on sale now for the season. In addition to ticket savings, 300 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: membership benefits include access to exclusive events, experiences, pre sales, 301 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: and more. You can lock in your seat starting at 302 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: just one hundred bucks. Called it eight NYG a giants 303 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: dot com slash tickets for more information. Interestingly, you also 304 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: coached against Florida wide receiver kid Darius Tony, who was 305 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: drafted by the Giants a year ago. And I think 306 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people look at perhaps some similarities between 307 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: Tony and Robinson because of their stature and their ability 308 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: once you get them out in open space, how they 309 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: could do a lot of damage after the catch when 310 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: you were a cornerback and you have to deal with 311 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: two wide receivers like that, and we've seen more and 312 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: more of that across the NFL. Why is that such 313 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: a challenge or a headache from a defensive perspective, because 314 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: those guys are very very elusive asprace space and they're 315 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: very you know, pup don't kind of don't documented that 316 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: they're fair scroll to So what I'm saying, it's not 317 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: that they're just um, you know, smaller guys, but they 318 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: can they can get off the block, they can block, 319 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: and also they can they can great topics because they 320 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: don't be so strong. So now you get the guy 321 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: that's in space that's is not he's also a strong guy, 322 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: so you can't just grab it. You gotta be able 323 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: to make the tiple. But now that you gotta get 324 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: in position to make the typ with him. But they're 325 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: being so quick and fast you might not get in 326 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: that position. So you can't own top of a guy 327 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: like that because you're run through your own table. So 328 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: he brings. They bring, both of them bring a little 329 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: a little something different you know in space where they 330 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: can a loud uh loudle linebacker, but also you know, 331 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: a little a defensive bag that's covering them. At the 332 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: same time, that guy gotta be better. You gotta be 333 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: strong too to be able to end up because they 334 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: are very strong, strong guys. They have strong hands, they 335 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: play big, you know, cook for their size. So to 336 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: piggyback off of your point, Coach, what you're saying is 337 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: my interpretation is that when you have two guys like that, 338 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: whether they're on the field simultaneously or separately, you're really 339 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: testing the defense to stress its fundamentals in terms of 340 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: being in position in as well as tackling. How fair 341 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: of a synopsis is that very much tackle in space. 342 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Space is everything for those guys. That's why they can 343 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: do That's why they're good slot guys. Give the miss space, 344 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: get the law to him, and and that's why they 345 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: can make days happen in space because they could. They 346 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: can make him miss top on the school because if 347 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: that one guy in the top with the pursuit might 348 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: not get there, they got to speed enough to take it, 349 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: take it to the house because one top miss down. 350 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: And we certainly have seen that well documented with what 351 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: Robinson and Tony have done at the collegiate level. The 352 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: Giants are certainly hoping to tap into that now on 353 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: the NFL level. Speaking of the NFL level, I want 354 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: to move to your connections to the New York Giants, 355 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: because it's not every day we speak to a coach 356 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: that has a connection to a draft pick and also 357 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: has been within the organization. First of all, coach, the 358 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: fact that you actually know this organization very well. How 359 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: much interaction have you had with Flant and Evans since 360 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: they joined the Giants to maybe give them an indication 361 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: of what they're walking into. Well, I just told them, 362 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: being in New York is it's it's you know, it's 363 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: a challenge of thing being in the Ark. You gotta 364 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: be ready to go. You got a tough minded to 365 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: be in New York, And that was one of my things. 366 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: I talked to him and and I was really um 367 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: to get back down to the football. I was gonna 368 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: wait another time. I told him that before they left, 369 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: So they both got ready for kept going and you know, 370 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: put your head down and it worked like you you're 371 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: never working before. But I was waiting to talk to 372 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: him a couple of days after the camp to see 373 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: how I wait for, you know, because at the end 374 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: of the day, I still want him coaching all my guys. 375 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: Even if I was watching on TV. They're doing something 376 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: that that I that I haven't taught him about. You 377 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: know I would say something about it. If they're doing 378 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: something I know that they've been coached to do and 379 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: they're not doing it, I'm gonna talk and talk to 380 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 1: him about it at all times. Sure, well, I mean 381 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: you're basically still an extension of the coaching staff essentially 382 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: because you helped implement those fundamentals when they were in college. 383 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: And speaking of making the transition, I think that really 384 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: relates to your circumstances because while the Giants, you could 385 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: argue coach are a munch of younger team right now, 386 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: when you came in, you walked into a defense. My goodness, 387 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor, called Banks, Leonard Marshall, Pepper Johnson. I mean, 388 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: it really was the who's who of defensive pass rushers. 389 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: What was it like for you to be associated with 390 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: so many veteran guys that you could lean on as 391 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: you just made the team as an undrafted rookie. Well, 392 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: it was the best thing is the donna spoke to 393 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: me until I made the team. But they did. You see, 394 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: I didn't go hang out when the guys may hang out. 395 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: I just you know, when they had my you know, 396 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: was here the playbook trying to learn the plays trying to, 397 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, having that tip on the shoulder, but like 398 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, it was just you know, even through the 399 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: times out for me being a coach, you know that 400 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: those lessons I learned from all those guys, those have 401 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: helped me become a better better coach. Also having ever 402 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: some walls that all those guys that that those things 403 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: have helped me become a better coach, you know, mixing 404 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of the old school things I learned 405 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: with the new school things that's going on. So I 406 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: was able to marry all that together and those things 407 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: have helped me, you know. And the crazy thing is, 408 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: like sometime guys said, yeah, I'll tell the y'all f 409 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: L teams like you play with LT I'm playing Pepper 410 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Johnson like they'd be like at all. So, Coach, what 411 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 1: you're saying is he called Banks is part of our 412 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: broadcast team, So I should remind him. I guess that 413 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: he's even older than you the next time I see him. Apparently, Yeah, 414 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: I say a little bit probably keeps itself because ship sure, 415 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that, that is well documented. But 416 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna scold them for maybe not talking 417 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: to you enough when you arrived as a rookie, how 418 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: about that day? That's it, man. But like most of 419 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: the time, that's what the defessions did. They want to 420 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: see what the rookie is gonna do, what God was 421 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: gonna be. You know, I want to learn to learn 422 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: his playbook. Let's take everything seriously, want to learn how 423 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: to be a profession not the guy that was gonna 424 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: kick you to hang out. Want to hang out with 425 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: the veterans now because the infestials already made you you 426 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: and had to get a job. No, it's a good 427 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: lesson and obviously it relates to now what Cordell Flon 428 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: and Darren Evans are facing in terms of them, like 429 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: you said, to keep their head down, go to work 430 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: and try to establish themselves as they look to make 431 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: the roster. Just real quickly before I let you go, coach, 432 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: and certainly appreciate the time the upside of both of 433 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: these players in terms of what you think their ceiling 434 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: could be, given the fact that they're just scratching the 435 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: surface of their NFL careers. They they both have a 436 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: high ceiling because of what Vince Speed. You know what 437 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can't go at a corner of vence 438 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: and speed. That's what everybody wants now development part, and 439 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, and I think the Giants coachers they're going 440 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: to do a good job. I think he's a really 441 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: good coach. I think they got the right coach with 442 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: him that's gonna keep making them better. Um. And now 443 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: they just gotta take from the weight room to learn 444 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: how to be a pro all those things. And I 445 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: think the ceiling is hospicable for those guys. And if 446 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: they take the you know, the process of being to 447 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: bring in the New York Giants understanding, you know, the 448 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: work that they got to be to put in. He 449 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: is Corey Raymond, who coached Cordell Flan and Darren Evans 450 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: at l s U when he served as their positional coach. 451 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: He is now the assistant head coach at quarterbacks coach 452 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: at Florida. Coach. Can't thank you enough. Greatly appreciate the 453 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: time of the inside, looking forward to seeing how those 454 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: two players fit into the Giant scheme and best of 455 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: luck at Florida moving forward. Greatly appreciate the time. Thank 456 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: you almost been glad to have my pleasure. This was 457 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: the latest edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast, which you 458 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: could catch on giants dot com, the mobile app, and 459 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platforms.