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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody into another edition of Talking Cowboys as always,

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Speaker 1: joined by Mickey, Rob, Brian myself in the SWBC Mortgage Studio.

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Speaker 1: Here we are on Monday, and despite a strong first

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Speaker 1: half from the Dallas Cowboys, they fall to the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Rams thirty five thirty and and we just have

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Speaker 1: to get into it. So, whether you guys are watching

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Speaker 1: or listening, we're gonna break it down for you. Help

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Speaker 1: you get over this, help you figure it out. Let's

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Speaker 1: figure it out together. But how are you guys doing today?

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Speaker 1: Ready to roll? Ready to roll? Yeah? Yeah? Good? And

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Speaker 1: spending the morning trying to dissect this? Yeah, good night's

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Speaker 1: sleep for a change, and let's say the noon games

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Speaker 1: kind of give us a little more pep in our

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Speaker 1: step on that Monday morning. Brian, you got to see

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Speaker 1: everything already, Yeah I did. It's when you know, you

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Speaker 1: get to do your get to do your job and

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Speaker 1: you actually get home when the when the sun is

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Speaker 1: somewhat going down. So yeah, no, it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: lot to get into. I mean, there really is, and

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Speaker 1: there's there's things that are that are very positive, and

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Speaker 1: there's things that it kind of gives you a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a pause, but you know, we'll get into

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Speaker 1: them all. I'm sure. Yeah, well, let's get into it. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the first half, Cowboys seemed pretty dominant, putting up two

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven yards of total offense to the

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Speaker 1: Rams one hundred and thirty one, and they completely owned

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Speaker 1: the time of possession eighteen minutes to twelve minutes, and

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Speaker 1: they were able to put points on the board in

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Speaker 1: each of their four drives. So everyone seemed pretty okay

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Speaker 1: with that. Obviously, the muffpunt happens, we figure that out.

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Speaker 1: But going into the second half, what happens? Wait, can

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Speaker 1: we talk about the first half. Let's go into real

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Speaker 1: quick kiss. That's to way where you did some good things.

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Speaker 1: You did a nice job of a block in the front,

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Speaker 1: You're able to run the football, you had some some

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Speaker 1: completions down the field that you know, you were able

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Speaker 1: to take advantage of. I felt like though, when we

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Speaker 1: make some big plays on them, especially in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: And you know that that to me was is you know,

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Speaker 1: with you talked about play calling, execution, you know, everything

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Speaker 1: that you needed to do to win a football game,

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Speaker 1: they were able to do in that first half. They

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Speaker 1: did Mickey Mickey's thing. He wanted, what did they do,

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Speaker 1: Mick first play in a game, right, yeah, loosen it up,

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Speaker 1: aired it out, said we're coming after you, not messing around.

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Speaker 1: I think they realized there were plays to be had,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about it during the week on the outside.

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Speaker 1: And if you wanted to nitpick a part of the

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Speaker 1: Rams defense, it was their coverage. Yeah, it wasn't It

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Speaker 1: wasn't going to be the front. It was if you

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Speaker 1: could block the front, you can make plays in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Cowboys for the most part, did that.

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Speaker 1: And it was good to see them have some success

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Speaker 1: in the running game. You know, they were able to

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Speaker 1: get some things going up front where you know what

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Speaker 1: Mickey had talked about, there were so many times where

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Speaker 1: Zekiel didn't have opportunities. Well, this time it was a

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Speaker 1: little bit cleaner for him on some runs, and you know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what you gotta have, especially with what they

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Speaker 1: were doing with with the left guard being out. You

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Speaker 1: know that first half they had one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: three fiction yards more than any game this season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the and the Rams had had some struggles playing

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Speaker 1: think that's to me was you know, when you you

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Speaker 1: look for, Okay, what kind of start do you need?

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Speaker 1: What what do you need to do to go out

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Speaker 1: and win a football game? Hey, Dallas needs to run

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Speaker 1: the football, and they need to stay ahead of the chains,

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Speaker 1: need to convert on third downs. They converted on a

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Speaker 1: fourth down. You know, do those types of things to

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Speaker 1: to win football games? And you know, that's that to

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Speaker 1: me was as good as start as as they could

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Speaker 1: and the rookie returner tried to reach turn a punt

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Speaker 1: he had no business returning. Should have called a fair catch.

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Speaker 1: You allow them to score one of their two touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, thirty five points. They only scored

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Speaker 1: seventeen to six at that time, they hadn't stopped the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: The Rams are ready to tuck tail. But you breathe

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Speaker 1: now it's seventeen thirteen and they're back in the ball game.

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Speaker 1: And I know you scored a touchdown at the end

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Speaker 1: of the half, but they also kicked one of their

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Speaker 1: seven field goals. They're back in the game. Possessions, as

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said at the end of the game, are precious,

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Speaker 1: and you cannot give them away and allow them to

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Speaker 1: score touchdown driving the ball only eighteen yards. I thought

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Speaker 1: that turned the entire complexion of the game around. You

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Speaker 1: They minimized it with that turnover, huge momentum play. And

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Speaker 1: we spoke to Switzer after the game and he said

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Speaker 1: he just took his eye off the ball for a

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Speaker 1: second and it might have had something to do with

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Speaker 1: of Switzer overran the play and he thought, Okay, I've

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Speaker 1: got room to return this and he focused more on

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even call it a rookie mistake. It's just a

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Speaker 1: mistake returners make. Sometimes it is a mistake. But how

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Speaker 1: to call a fair catch? There was too much traffic,

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Speaker 1: even his own guy was in his way. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was it. Frasier, I can't remember. Woods was Woods? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you had, you had. There was just too much around

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Speaker 1: him and he tried to run with it before he

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Speaker 1: caught it. He got to call a fair catch sometimes. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Fararell Cooper return was also pretty bad. Pharrell Cooper

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Speaker 1: because both of their touchdowns. You're right, Mickey came to

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Speaker 1: the Rams when they were in great field position from

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Speaker 1: their special teams. Those two plays, and then we'll get

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Speaker 1: into Dak. I'm sure there was the interception. Those three plays,

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Speaker 1: Mickey with Switzers, it was in the red zone. They

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Speaker 1: got thirteen points off of those plays and they win

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Speaker 1: by five. I mean, that's it's not as simple as that,

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Speaker 1: just can't give away stuff like that. It'll get you

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Speaker 1: last week, and I said, if you looked at the

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Speaker 1: raw numbers that Cowboys should have got beat, well they

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Speaker 1: won it. Well this time, if you look at the

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Speaker 1: raw numbers, they should have won the game. And they

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Speaker 1: got beat because they gave them thirteen points on three plays?

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Speaker 1: Are three plays helped? And they all they scored all

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Speaker 1: they gained what's thirty one yards and thirteen points? How

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Speaker 1: much did you lose by five? Yeah, but think it's

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Speaker 1: a significant difference. But then you get in the second

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Speaker 1: half though, and were they supposed to score forty? Well no,

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Speaker 1: but they think about this too. You gave up seven

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Speaker 1: field goals that that could have been with a play here,

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Speaker 1: a play there could have been a lot worse. If

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Speaker 1: you look at their nine of their ten biggest plays

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Speaker 1: the game came in the second half. Absolutely that if

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Speaker 1: you look at they gave up. The Cowboys had drives,

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Speaker 1: scoring drives given up on them, whether it was field

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Speaker 1: seventy three for sixteen points. And I mean, I mean

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Speaker 1: they holding the field goals is good, but when you

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Speaker 1: score on nine of eleven true possessions, that too often. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what the Rams did. You know, you could

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Speaker 1: talk about the field goals and that's fine. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, but it honestly could have

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Speaker 1: hung fifty on you, They really could. Yeah. Well, I

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Speaker 1: and you guys correct me if I'm wrong, But I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure the last time the Cowboys blocked a field

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Speaker 1: goal was against the Seahawks in twenty fifteen, and it

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Speaker 1: was David Irving who was able to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: obviously he returned this week and we'll get into more

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Speaker 1: discussion about that. But I mean, you know, those field

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Speaker 1: he's he's good at distance. And you know, you talk

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Speaker 1: you know more almost blocks the punt. Montrey Moore is

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Speaker 1: the other way. You talk about turnovers that they didn't get,

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Speaker 1: and you know, but they didn't get it. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: you know there's things that happened in this game that

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Speaker 1: you know, if they could have done this or if

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Speaker 1: they could have done that, it's just in the second

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Speaker 1: half they didn't do enough of what they were doing.

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Speaker 1: My point was in the second half they're not doing

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Speaker 1: is what they were able to do in the first

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Speaker 1: half that I think that was really a big difference.

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Speaker 1: I know, and you know you're talking about Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: doing some good things. He had three touchdown passes and

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Speaker 1: this tied for his personal best, and the Cowboys in

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Speaker 1: total had four hundred and forty total net yards of offense,

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Speaker 1: their biggest since playing Tampa Bay last season. So you're right, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: if you look at this just from numbers, you'd think, oh,

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Speaker 1: this this team won in dominant fashion, maybe even but

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Speaker 1: they just weren't able to So to get into everything,

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Speaker 1: I think it might be easier if we just go

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Speaker 1: first half offense, first half defense, second half offense, second

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Speaker 1: half defense, and then special teams in total. So let's

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Speaker 1: get to the first half offense. Obviously, we saw some

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Speaker 1: great things from Zegel, like getting two touchdowns. One receiving

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Speaker 1: touchdown he just dove for that pylon. Yeah, absolutely impressive. Impressive,

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Speaker 1: And you know Jason Witten only had one catch, but

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Speaker 1: And then when he can't square up, it's similar what

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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studio. So much more to talk about as

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Speaker 1: we're trying to wrap our heads around this game. Just

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Speaker 1: an interesting time for the Dallas Cowboys as now they're

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Speaker 1: two and two. Shaun Lee was out of the game

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Speaker 1: yesterday with a hamstring injury, and in his absence, Jalen

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Speaker 1: Smith was able to get ten tackles. Ten tackles, the

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Speaker 1: second double digit takedown day of his career. So far.

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Speaker 1: He now has thirty four four the season, and in

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Speaker 1: comparison to Shawn Lee's career back in twenty ten, he

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Speaker 1: had only had eight tackles combined in his first four games.

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Speaker 1: So Jalen Smith stepped up, did the job? Was it

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Speaker 1: enough for this defense? Well? I think to some degree

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Speaker 1: you got to give credit to the Rams with what

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Speaker 1: they were with some of what they did schematically with

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Speaker 1: with the Cowboys linebackers. I mean, Jalen Smith, what he's

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Speaker 1: done this first month is incredible given what he's come

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Speaker 1: back from. Like you said, you mentioned the tackles Tay,

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Speaker 1: but there's so certain situations where you know, they got

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Speaker 1: him isolated in space with Cooper Cup and those guys,

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Speaker 1: and he's trailing the play and having to really run

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Speaker 1: and make plays. And that's that's to the Rams advantage.

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Speaker 1: And that's good play designed by Sean McVay that we saw. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that to me, the tackles, the story, everything's nice.

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Speaker 1: But they need Anthony Hitchins back playing at that mic linebacker. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: they really do. And they and Shawn Lee and Anthony Hitchins, well,

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Speaker 1: they make a difference in that game. I think that

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Speaker 1: they can limit Todd Gurley to some of the plays

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Speaker 1: that he made, limit all the plays. No robs. Right though,

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Speaker 1: the Rams mcvaded a smart thing. He isolated not only

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Speaker 1: not only did he isolate uh Jalen Smith, but he

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Speaker 1: isolated also Justin Durant, you know, and Justin Durant looked

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Speaker 1: like old man Justin Durant playing football yesterday. And I

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Speaker 1: think that that to me was one of those things

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Speaker 1: where I said, okay, you are which you are right now. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: you know, I thought initially it was poor tackling off.

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Speaker 1: Really the linebackers didn't have much of a chance in

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Speaker 1: this game. The second level blocks that the Rams offensive

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Speaker 1: line were making in the in the second getting up

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Speaker 1: on you know, they're the Cowboys defensive line did a

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Speaker 1: poor job not only getting off blocks themselves, but the

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Speaker 1: Cowboy linebackers caught a ton of blocks in that game.

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Speaker 1: And usually with Durant and usually with Lee, you see

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Speaker 1: them play fast, fast flow linebackers get the footballs. They

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Speaker 1: don't they don't mess around. Jalen got caught up way

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Speaker 1: too much. Durant was way too slow in this game.

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Speaker 1: And Damian Wilson made way too any mistakes, Oh way

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Speaker 1: too many, Missisa, and he hurts you. He hurts you

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Speaker 1: in this game because see they thought that they could

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Speaker 1: bring in Damien Wilson, Yeah, minimize, well not minimize, control

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Speaker 1: the number of STAPs. Durant got it and he came

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Speaker 1: in and it wasn't very good. It wasn't It wasn't

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Speaker 1: good at all. And see that's where I'm saying that.

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Speaker 1: And you look at the play that Gurley made along

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Speaker 1: the fifty three yard passed. I was trying to I

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Speaker 1: was gonna ask you what you saw on that play. Well,

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Speaker 1: he came up and they bit what they thought was

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Speaker 1: going to be an underneath route him and him and

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Speaker 1: Cavan Fraser. Frasier was terrible in this game too, And

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Speaker 1: not only did he miss tackles in the field. You know,

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Speaker 1: he and Wilson on the fifty three yard pass didn't

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Speaker 1: sort that out. They let Girly run right between him.

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Speaker 1: It was a terrible job on their part. And then

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Speaker 1: Jeff Heath doesn't come to balance missus the play. Now

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Speaker 1: it's a touchdown, but also too though. You know, Wilson

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Speaker 1: on the big kickoff return, he got wadded up inside,

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Speaker 1: got knocked down, knocked down a couple of his teammates,

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Speaker 1: so you know they didn't And Fraser running down the field,

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Speaker 1: he's first down guy, first guy down. He falls down.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens to you. You play guys that are

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Speaker 1: you know that you're trying to get the absolute most

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Speaker 1: out of and occasionally they make a play for you.

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Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, too, when things start

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Speaker 1: to go bad, they seemed to steamroll. They get snowball.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's the word I'm using. And but the linebackers,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think they were very good yesterday, But a

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Speaker 1: lot of it had to do with defensive linemen were

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Speaker 1: absolutely doing doing no help to them as far as

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Speaker 1: allowing the rams to block them the way that Marcus

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Speaker 1: Lauren said four tackles. Collins and Moore had two each, yes,

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Speaker 1: and the rest of them had one. Price had none.

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Speaker 1: So you got three guys out of the eight with

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Speaker 1: more than one tackle, the rest of them one or none.

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Speaker 1: They were nothing was happening. The better, the best, the best,

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Speaker 1: just what I saw the best stuff that they were

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Speaker 1: able to do it towards the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: And when they started to slant the front and they

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Speaker 1: gave the linebackers a chance, you know, it was just

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Speaker 1: a little bit different look they and before they were

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Speaker 1: just it was like they were playing the run and

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Speaker 1: everybody was flowing to the ball. This time they said, okay,

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Speaker 1: to stop the run. Let's we'll take our line one way,

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Speaker 1: play the linebackers the other. They got guys free. They

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Speaker 1: got Durant free one time, they got Smith free one time.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was a late, late, late adjustment right there,

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Speaker 1: but you know it was something he said, okay, at

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Speaker 1: least he could have gone to it. He went to it.

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Speaker 1: It worked a little bit. But overall though defensively, it

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Speaker 1: really wasn't the tackling. It was the ability to their

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Speaker 1: inability to as a unit to get off blocks and

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Speaker 1: they made some huge, huge, mistakes in the passing game

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Speaker 1: of just not sorting things out and allowed those rams.

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Speaker 1: Like I talked about the second half, the big plays

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Speaker 1: that day were will be. I'll give you an example

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Speaker 1: real quick. I'm sorry I'm talking way too much here,

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Speaker 1: but but Jalen Smith on the third and eleven that

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Speaker 1: goes behind him to cup. No, no, it was the

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Speaker 1: the other receiver seventeen. Here's my guy seventeen. I always

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Speaker 1: forget his name, Woods Woods. Third down, third to eleven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Woods is gonna run a route behind He's gonna he's

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Speaker 1: gonna take it past the sticks. And what happens is

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Speaker 1: they're in a zone drop and you see you see

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Speaker 1: Jaleen his he's clearly looking at the quarterback. But then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden they get a flat route or

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Speaker 1: a check down route where Orlando Scannerck's in great shape.

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Speaker 1: He's getting Orlando Skannrick is gonna make the play if

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Speaker 1: the ball goes short. But Jalen Smith, instead of playing

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, goes to goes up,

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Speaker 1: steps up to play the short route, and now the

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Speaker 1: route comes behind him. He has to if if he

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Speaker 1: just positions himself where he was, he makes he makes

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Speaker 1: golf have to throw that ball through him to get

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Speaker 1: it to the crosser. But by moving out a position,

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Speaker 1: he opens a window. So see something it's experienced. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: third and eleven, you you basically have got him in

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Speaker 1: a situation where you can get off the field. You

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Speaker 1: can make them punt from their own end zone. But

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Speaker 1: just by a read, a misread, an assignment, you take

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Speaker 1: yourself out of position. Ball comes behind you. Now it's

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Speaker 1: a first down. That's the kind of things that happened

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Speaker 1: to him in that football game, and I think we

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Speaker 1: forget he's a rookie. He's playing for this sign. And

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Speaker 1: the ten tackles, to me were deceiving because a lot

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Speaker 1: of them were catch up from behind tackles that the

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Speaker 1: ball had gone past them. So they missed Sean Lee,

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Speaker 1: they missed Hitchens, And it was a good sign today

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Speaker 1: that both of those guys, along with a Woozier were

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Speaker 1: out there on the chords rehabit. I got the word

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Speaker 1: that Hitchens might have given it a go this last

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Speaker 1: week if they could have gone a padded practice, and

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Speaker 1: the fact they didn't have a padded practice set him

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Speaker 1: back for this week. Y'all right though, but you mentioned

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Speaker 1: the running game, what the Rams were able to do

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Speaker 1: up front. You saw their linemen pulling, getting out in space,

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Speaker 1: get into the second level. That affects the linebacker play.

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Speaker 1: I would say that you mentioned the tackling. I thought

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Speaker 1: the tackling was really good in the first half, especially

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Speaker 1: with some of the dbs. Scan. Yeah, physical, good tacklings.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a positive. But yeah, just too many

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Speaker 1: big plays in the second half. See I thought the

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Speaker 1: second half, I was sitting there thinking, Okay, when I

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Speaker 1: watched the game, I'm thinking, okay, there's would be a

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Speaker 1: bunch of bad tackling the second half. It was really

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Speaker 1: more about assignments and it was more about getting off blocks.

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Speaker 1: They just did not do a very good job. It

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Speaker 1: sounds really simplistic to say, but when you're running the

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Speaker 1: football and getting chunk plays like that eleven twelve yards,

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Speaker 1: you know we're seeing even when they're handing the ball

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Speaker 1: to Austin and he's gaining twelve yards on the play,

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Speaker 1: when you know they're going to hand him the football,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't bode well at all. See what happens is

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Speaker 1: it's a noble cause those next man up. But a

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Speaker 1: lot of times you made a great point. I stole

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Speaker 1: your line. It's it's it's you get diminishing returns because

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Speaker 1: now these guys are playing more snaps than they're normally playing,

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Speaker 1: some of them in positions they're not normally playing in,

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Speaker 1: and sooner later catches up with ye, it catches up

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Speaker 1: with you, and it did you know, you got too

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Speaker 1: many guys missing and you know that hurt him. But

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Speaker 1: still talent. Still, you don't have those three plays that

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Speaker 1: Rob mentioned. It's a different ball game, So how do

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Speaker 1: you assess that? You know? I heard Ryan Switzer as well,

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Speaker 1: and you know he kind of said, this isn't the

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Speaker 1: first time this has happening, this isn't the last. And

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Speaker 1: I get what he's saying, having kind of a short

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Speaker 1: term memory, but for any cowboy's faith after that, hearing

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Speaker 1: that out there by any means, because yeah, well he

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Speaker 1: came out aggressive. I mean he returned two kickoffs that

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Speaker 1: you probably could have settled for a touchback there and

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Speaker 1: just kneel down the end zone. And is he trying

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Speaker 1: to prove himself? No? I think they have they have

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Speaker 1: a system on when they want to bring the ball

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Speaker 1: out and when they don't want to bring the ball out.

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Speaker 1: And they basically have him five seven yards deep and

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Speaker 1: they're telling him, if you're running forward, take it out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll take our chances. And that he was trying to

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Speaker 1: the most part. I mean he was getting to the twenty.

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Speaker 1: He was trying to get a six six yard return.

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Speaker 1: That's what he was trying. Because their guys shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: taken that ball out. Now, no, not at all. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys hadn't allowed a kickoff return over thirty yards in

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Speaker 1: the first three games this season. Yeah, I'm surprised. Even

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Speaker 1: Dan Bailey at home usually is this money kicking him

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Speaker 1: in the day. Do you think that they were trying

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Speaker 1: to kick short and try to cover inside the twenty.

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Speaker 1: I think the last one they were the last kickoff

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Speaker 1: that they had that before they before they got the

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Speaker 1: ball back in the last kickoff, I think they kicked

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Speaker 1: short to try and get the ball inside the fifty

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Speaker 1: because a couple of them he kicked, I mean they

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Speaker 1: were touchbacks. Sure, there was a couple that came up short.

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Speaker 1: If you look at if you look at the last kick,

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Speaker 1: just look at the last kick. To me, it was

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Speaker 1: it was it was like a directional kick to pin

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Speaker 1: him in that corner right and see if they could cover.

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Speaker 1: And I believe the ball. I believe the Rams started

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Speaker 1: that drive. If I'm not mistaken, the Rams started that drive.

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00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: I can find it eventually here. But yeah, it was. Yeah,

641
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: they tackled him at the Rams seventeen. Bailey kicks fifty

642
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: eight yards from the Dallas thirty five to the Ram,

643
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 1: the Rams seven, and then that's when Farrell Cooper returned

644
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: it to ten yards to the seventeen. Well, they were

645
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: that one. I don't know if they thought, maybe the

646
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: Rams thought they were gonna on site kick and he

647
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: kind of didn't. He just seven minutes slept in the game,

648
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: kind of pooched it up. Yeah, that's fifty eight yards.

649
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: It's a pooch, I'd say. On the other side, you

650
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: mentioned Switzer, Tay, I think he's gonna be fine. He's

651
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: got a lot of talent. He's young, and I want

652
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: an aggressive returner, kick returner, punt returner. I think he

653
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: just he got ahead of himself on that punt return

654
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: and it happens. But you can't. We've seen him and

655
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: let it happen. We've seen him flip the field. We

656
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: praised last week against Arizona I mean we've we've seen

657
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: him do that. I mean, that's you know, that's something

658
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna take risk, He's gonna take chances. You say

659
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: he's fearless and all that, but you saw what happened.

660
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: That's that's potentially could happen right there, cost him a possession,

661
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: gave him an easy touchdown. Yeah, And if you think

662
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: about it, what was the difference in everything? They had

663
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: two takeaways in a big special teams play, Cowboys had

664
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: no takeaways and nothing special on special teams, nothing special

665
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: and special teams. And somebody that I thought was going

666
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: to have a really big day and it was largely

667
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: due to his matchup Dez Bryant with Trumaine Johnson. You

668
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: saw him have some good, big plays, but then some drops,

669
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: at least one big drop on that third down. How

670
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: can Dez Bryant recover from this game? And what did

671
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: you see from it? Was the best game he had

672
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: in a watch exactly, but still catches for what ninety eight. Yeah,

673
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. There was a couple of times. I'm surprised

674
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: they win his direction on the third and seven or

675
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: third and six. I felt like that, you know, that's

676
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: not a play to throw a fifty fifty ball too

677
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: down the field like that. That that was that that

678
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: was really on Dak. The ball was wide. He didn't

679
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: give Dez any chance. He didn't give Yeah, thea talked

680
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: about and I think he's referring to some of those. Yeah,

681
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: that was a bad choice. Yeah, but you have another

682
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: choice he did underneath. He had just just to keep

683
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: the drive going, you know, he if he could have

684
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: sat there and you had a one on one matchup,

685
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: you had a safety coming all the way across the

686
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: field to try and cover as the elliot in the flat,

687
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: and they were late getting there. So you know that

688
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: that's Dak. He's gonna see that on film. He's go, gosh,

689
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: I should have just checked the damn ball down and

690
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: we could We just kept to drive going. The drop

691
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about clearly, you know, I think Terrence Williams

692
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: makes that play ten times out of ten because because

693
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: it's a low body catch and he's gonna scoop it

694
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: and he's gonna make the play. But yeah, the ball

695
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: gut underneath Dez and you could see it, and you

696
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: know it's it was hand. It's well, the ball was

697
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: low to it's low. I mean out the slant that

698
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: he threw to Dez late in the game that was wide.

699
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: If he hits Dez, that's a that's a huge play.

700
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: That's a huge play. So yeah, the balls that Dez

701
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: could have got as opposed to the ones he should

702
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: have had. Yeah, I mean I never I never fought

703
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: trying to get him the football, But I felt like

704
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: on that third down play, they could have kept the

705
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: chains going if he would have just said, let's play

706
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: simple football here, get it to get it to Zeke,

707
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: let him get the first down one on one, maybe

708
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: get a little bit more and then we play from there. Yeah.

709
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: And I liked what you were talking about with Wade

710
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: Phillips making the adjustments and figuring out who to double

711
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: his team play better his team played yea. Yeah, and

712
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: second half, I mean we saw a lot of double

713
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: bracketing on Cole Beasley. He continues he either gets he's

714
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: getting more attention with a better cover guy on him

715
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: in these games like what the Giants did, or he's

716
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: just straight up getting double team And and Witton did too.

717
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: I think you wrote about it, Brian Witton. He was

718
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: kind of a decoy on two of the Cowboys touchdown passes,

719
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: but they're taking away some of what the Cowboys like

720
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: to do in space in the middle of the field.

721
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: That's safety blanket almost. Yeah, that you know, it's funny

722
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: you talk about Dez going back the first drive that

723
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal to open the game. They run

724
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: the pivot with Daz going inside, and it looked like

725
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: to me that Dak wanted to throw him the football.

726
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: But then you get pressure, you know, with Aaron Donald,

727
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: they're not very clean up front. Now he's having to

728
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: avoid Donald and you know all that, if he could

729
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: just held the ball a tick or too longer, you

730
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: got Dez break into the flat, it's going to be

731
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: a completion and maybe a touchdown down there. But you know,

732
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: it just it's just it's just everybody's got to do

733
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: their job. In this game, you didn't have everybody doing

734
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 1: their job, and that's ultimately what costs you the game. Absolutely. Well,

735
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: before we get to more of this game, let's go

736
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: to the phone lines. We have AJ from California on

737
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: the line. AJ, what is your question? Hey, good morning guys.

738
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: Tough loss yesterday. Obviously, questions for you include when is

739
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: Xavier Wood's going to take Jeff's Heath's job, because he

740
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: should have taken it a long time ago in my opinion.

741
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: And number two, I know that we hear all the

742
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: time about complacency once you get a big lead. Is

743
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: there complacency and play calling once you get a big lead,

744
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: because it seemed like they took their foot off the

745
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: throat of the Rams yesterday and inevitably that's what led

746
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: to a lot of the second half was And then lastly,

747
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: any chance we see Byron Bell on the offensive line

748
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: and we see, you know, perhaps Collins slide over to

749
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: left guard. Thank you guys. Lots of questions there, Thank you,

750
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: aj And let's get first to Woods play and you

751
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: know he wants them to start now. Well, I think

752
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: that they're going to evaluate all the safety's positions, you know,

753
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: and you need to think about, okay, what are we

754
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: gonna do with Cavon Frasier. You know he missed tackles

755
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: in the game, you know he you know some key

756
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: plays too he missed. So you know where does Woods

757
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: fit in? Is it for Woods? Is he does he

758
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: play more for Frasier? Does he play for Heath? I

759
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: think that they are going to evaluate that position right there.

760
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: There's no question they need to evaluate. And you know,

761
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: with Jeff Heath, you know, we've seen some big hits.

762
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: We've seen some big misses. You know, we've seen in

763
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: the past, we've seen turnovers. Yeah, but in this time,

764
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: I think that when you're looking at your defense as

765
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: a whole, you have to say, Okay, what positions do

766
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: we need to evaluate? I think you need to evaluate

767
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: what you're doing a defensive line. You know that you

768
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: know who is is it really the best combinations that

769
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: you can have out there? So when you lose a

770
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: football game, there's a lot of evaluations, but safety is

771
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: not a bad one to start with. I saw you

772
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: underline something over there, Mickey. What was it about. Oh?

773
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: He said, they took their foot off the gas. You know,

774
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: they came out, they came out in the in the

775
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: in the I needed to remind myself in the third quarter. Uh,

776
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: And they stopped the Rams. Yeah, and then the Cowboys

777
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: ended up getting a first down. Zeke ran for sixteen

778
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: yards UM and then they hand it off to him

779
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: again and he gets hit behind the line for a

780
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: minus one. Uh. You tried to well start the series

781
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: with that, Mickey, Prescott deep incomplete to Bryant. Briant, they

782
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: tried a double move there, right, that's an aggressive play call. Yeah,

783
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: first time like they backed up. Yeah, no, that that

784
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: was a that was an aggressive play call right there

785
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: to try and make something happen. And then they didn't

786
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: get there. They got the incompletion, you know. And then

787
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: so now what they do they come back, They get

788
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: sixteen yards, They come back on a first down play

789
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: and like Mickey says, they don't block it cleanly, hit

790
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: in the backfield. Minus one tried to bubble screen to

791
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: beasily bubble zero. Now it's third and eleven. He throws

792
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: his load of deaths. You would like him to catch it, yep,

793
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: and he doesn't. Now you're punny. They score, they end

794
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: up hitting a field goal. Then you come out and

795
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 1: you get another first down. You get third and seven

796
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: and he tries to go underneath the Beasley and he

797
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: came up two yards short. So I don't think they

798
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: backed off. They just didn't convert. But then again it

799
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: was like Rob said, that was two thirds and six

800
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: or more in a row, and those they've been having

801
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: trouble all season long trying to convert those. And we

802
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: talk about first and second down. That was a big

803
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: key for this game. They were better in the first

804
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: half second half. Zeke on first down he had six

805
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: runs for ten yards. So again you're getting backed up,

806
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: you getting behind the chains. I think he had a

807
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: sixteen yard run on second down. He did, but but

808
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: the other one was a twelve yard scrambled by Dack

809
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: That wasn't a design play. They got behind the chains

810
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: in the second and then the next possession they had

811
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: the same thing happened first down Zeke zero. Yeah, so

812
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: you know they don't they didn't really back off. No,

813
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: they tried. I thinn't execute is well line? Yeah that

814
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: the Rams give them credit. You know, adjustments are not

815
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: the Rams, did they? Dallas Cowboys had a hard time

816
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: in the second half block and Donald and blocking Brockers

817
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: and then that and then in Ogletree. Those guys they

818
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: made plays, their secondary made plays. They covered better in

819
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: the second half. So you have to tip your hat

820
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: to them for doing that. So can you maybe some

821
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: logic to why if Chaz Green wasn't going to start, Yeah,

822
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, why did they keep them active? Yeah?

823
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mentioned that though Friday, as you know,

824
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: maybe you keep one guy active his insurance. Yeah, but

825
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: I figured he would. If he was active, he was

826
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: going to start, So that was a little surprising. It was,

827
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of people did think that we can

828
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: get into more of the offensive line talking about Byron

829
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: Bell making a shot there as well. Interesting question for

830
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: a j Hey, all is fair after a loss? There

831
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: are lots of things to discuss, lots of improvements, adjustments,

832
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,719
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873
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Speaker 1: We're thinking of you, guys. Thought some prayers out to

874
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Speaker 1: you guys. It's never easy, you know. Here we are

875
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: discussing football, but bigger issues at hand. So absolutely, and

876
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: we've got calling call us amazing. Was talking football and

877
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: not other stuff after a game. Huh. Lots of fans

878
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: who are always great about calling in. So we're thinking

879
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: of you guys. Back to the game though, Byron Bell,

880
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: he thought, could we see him in this offensive line?

881
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: Makey shaking his head. No, I don't think so either.

882
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: I agree. Green goes back to guard and yeah, and

883
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: al Collins gonna have it all's well. Yeah, but Layle

884
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: Collins the you're gonna stay with him. This is a

885
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: growth period of him. I didn't think that Lyle Collins

886
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: was terrible in this game. Yeah, I really didn't. If

887
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: he said, the guy that felt like it had the

888
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: most problems clearly was the left guard, you know, with Cooper,

889
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: Johnathon Cooper had a problem. And then the guy that

890
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: had the next most problems was was was your center?

891
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: And again it's not because of the holding Penley, but

892
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: there were some times where there's some there was a

893
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: little bit of confusion on hey, I'm passing this guy

894
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: to you. You're ready for this, you're ready for that,

895
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: and or they they worked combo blocks together and they

896
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: were split. You know, they just didn't do a very

897
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: good job. And you know, I think that's I understand

898
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: that that Travis didn't talk after the game. He's usually

899
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: a guy that will come up and stand up, but

900
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: he didn't want to, you know, didn't say anything. So

901
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: he probably felt like that wasn't one of his best efforts.

902
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: But who they were going up against, you know, you

903
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: had to you had to make that work. I mean,

904
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: you're an All Pro center, a Pro Bowl center, You're

905
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: going up against big time players. So he probably felt

906
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: a little bad about that, but they weren't as good

907
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: in the second half, especially up front that that that

908
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: was very very clear. Yeah, there was one play. I

909
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: thought Travis thought he was passing off to to Cooper,

910
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: and Cooper looked the other way, and then Travis tried

911
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: to catch up and he looked bad. I missed. You

912
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: want to know who the play was. It was the

913
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: play that they threw to Zekiel to Ezekiel Elliott, you know,

914
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: they put him through the million and drug him across right,

915
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: and then they dumped it. I mean really the ball

916
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: you could see you could see Prescott's like, Okay, I

917
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: don't have time to hold this ball. He just floats

918
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: it to Zeke and that's when Zeke made the big

919
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: play going up the sidelines. But yeah, it was it

920
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: was a it was a pass. Whoa, you didn't take him.

921
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: Now I got to scramble back to get there. So

922
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: I And it's surprising because again, those two worked more

923
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: together than any other combination that we've seen that we

924
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: saw in training camp. So that that was a little troubling. Absolutely, Rob,

925
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: you have a pull for us. It's kind of encapsulating

926
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: everything we've already got into but let's hear what the

927
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: fans have to say. Yeah, I mean, look, this is

928
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: a team loss. I think every phase, all three phases,

929
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: struggled at some point in the game. And that's the question.

930
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: Which phase, And you don't get d all of the above,

931
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: which phase has to improve most to bounce back? Mickey

932
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: from Sunday's loss, offense and defense or special teams? Pretty

933
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: pretty cut and dried because you got the Packers coming up,

934
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: so you guys got I would say defense, but defense.

935
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: Sixty said defense, and I don't know if that Probably

936
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: think about Aaron Rodgers, think about the quarterback that's about

937
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: it's coming to town. But I mean, I think you

938
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: could go for any of those three honestly, I think

939
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: had a big impact in the game. Go ahead, which

940
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: potentially has the ability to get better. I think defense

941
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: with the number of guys that you could get back

942
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: either this coming week or after the bye. I don't

943
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: know if you're gonna get all these guys back. I

944
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: mean maybe one of these guys, maybe Hitchens isn't after

945
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: the bye. Guy, we'll see. But you're talking about Irving,

946
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: You're talking about lee A Woozier. Hopefully that helps. How

947
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: do they a lot, that's a lot of contributors. How

948
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: do they win the game? Last year at Lambeau, David Irving,

949
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: David Irvan played well, but was offense. Offense did a

950
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: great job in that game. You remember how they had

951
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: They put a lot of pressure. They put a lot

952
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: of pressure on the Packers to have to and the

953
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: Packers made some mistakes. They score thirty four points or

954
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: something like that. I can't remember. The final scope was yeah, yeah,

955
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: but it was one of those games where I remember

956
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: that that's some great third down calls. The lucky Whitehead

957
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: pass went down the field, Beasley in the corner of

958
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: the end zone, Bryce Butler with a touchdown. They drove

959
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: the ball right before half and scored a touchdown. I

960
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: mean there were things offensively that they were able to do.

961
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, the offense, I think the offense has to

962
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: find a way to help the defense win these games. Now.

963
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: And Mickey will get on me about this, but and

964
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: he'll say, hey, we scored thirty points for you, Brian,

965
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: what about Yeah, Brian, what more do you want? But

966
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: I feel like though that it uh you know it

967
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: it second half, you know, second half. If you could

968
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: have you know, if you could have found a way

969
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: maybe one more touchdown. I mean, I know it's got

970
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: you got one touchdown in six possessions. Yeah, that's why

971
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm I mean to me, it was it was if

972
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: you could have if you could have scored, you know,

973
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: fourteen points in the second half, then maybe maybe the

974
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: defense is not having But the problem with the defense

975
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: right now, guys, And I'm not telling no, I don't

976
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: you need a former scout to tell you this. Given

977
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: up a lot of big plays. Yeah, and that's something

978
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: they didn't do last year. They didn't give up the

979
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: big plays. Right about that for tomorrow? Yeah, those big

980
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: chunk plays that you know, we we've seen them get

981
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: off the field on third down. We've seen them do

982
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, play the Deacon package and clog and cover

983
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: and get off the field. They definitely didn't have any

984
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: runners scoring over or rushing over one hundred yards and

985
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: four games so far this year they'd had one hundred

986
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: yard rushing at both losses too, if you think about it,

987
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: you know with up one hundred and sixty eight and

988
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy eight yards rushing. Yeah, and the

989
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: two losses that was they needed to control girly and

990
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: they didn't do it. He you know, and the big play.

991
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: But for him, it's tucked about. It's not just running

992
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: the ball. He No, he beat you number of different way. Yeah, yeah,

993
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: I understand it. That's what I said, control him, and

994
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: they did not control him. But you know, you sit

995
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: here and go, well, okay, you know the Rams only

996
00:48:54,480 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: scored one touchdown the first half they won. So yeah,

997
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to those three plays, rest my case. Yeah, yeah,

998
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: get those three plays right, you probably win the ball game. Yeah,

999
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's not as simple as that. It is. No,

1000
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's a lot of things they didn't

1001
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: do well. They comedy points. Do you have to score

1002
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: to win a game? Forty? If you got to score

1003
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: forty to win, you're in trouble. Teams came in the

1004
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: game averaging thirty five, well, and they got thirty five. Yeah,

1005
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so maybe you need to score forty. You

1006
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: gotta score forty, then you're in trouble. If you got

1007
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: to go out and score forty points a game to win, well,

1008
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: in this game, it might we knew with the way

1009
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: both teams offensively were, maybe that's what you had to

1010
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: do offensively. Yeah, I'm not seriously, I'm not saying. And

1011
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: you know we thought about the Rams. They came in there,

1012
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: the highest scoring offense in the National Football League. Yes,

1013
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: you knew you were going to be up against that. Well.

1014
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: I kept thinking about what you said on Friday, Brian,

1015
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: and I think you said this on our blueprint presented

1016
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: by Xerox, that you'd said, you know, if this game

1017
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: does turn into a shootout, who do you like? Bet

1018
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: he was? I don't think he was terrible. The passes

1019
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: he missed, you know, hey, that's something he surely can't

1020
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: work on. But how about the passes he made when

1021
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: he had it was under durest. You talked about Aaron

1022
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: Donald about taking his head off. Not many people can survive,

1023
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald rush and get out and live to

1024
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: tell about it and make a play. Everybody's yeah the

1025
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: fifty yard line. Yeah, Dez Bryant. I mean you think

1026
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: about what he was able to do, and you know,

1027
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: people say, well, you know, that's it's part of it.

1028
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but if you don't have him, this

1029
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: game could have been far worse. But the touchdown to

1030
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler, he tried to get out, create some chime,

1031
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: and Butler was smart enough to stop his route and

1032
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: go back the way Dak was going. Absolutely, everybody said

1033
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: that was a Romo type play where he spun out

1034
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: from Donald made a play. It helps that you're two forty,

1035
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know if Tony could have done that.

1036
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: I think some of that is just Dak being a

1037
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: built like a linebacker and being able to physically take

1038
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: that hit and keep going. Absolutely. A lot of people

1039
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: are asking on Twitter, I'm just looking over here and

1040
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: see when is the trade deadline to kind of clear

1041
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: up any confusion with the Cowboys? Week six? Is that right? No,

1042
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: they back it up that week eight. Kind they just

1043
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: keep moving closer to November yet, I don't know. Yeah,

1044
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: it's it's zac. What's the point they were wondering? Dude,

1045
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys needed trade for a left guard. We just

1046
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: get Chance Green back in there and get healthy. Who's

1047
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: going to have the excess guard that's better than what

1048
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: you have? That's a good question, you know. I think

1049
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: that to me, when you think about trading offensive lineman

1050
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: halfway through the season, probably not a great idea. Now

1051
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: you could pick lineman up. We saw what they were

1052
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: they picked Jonathan Cooper up the last two weeks of

1053
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: the season, you know last year. That's kind of an

1054
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: insurance thing. I think with the continuity of the offensive line.

1055
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: You know, Mickey's right there, go ahead and continue to

1056
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: play Chats Green. Chas Green wasn't killing you in these games,

1057
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: and it really really wasn't hurting any that bad. So

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00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: you need to find a way to say you can't

1059
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: rely on them to always be well, that's keep them healthy.

1060
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: And that's the problem. I don't know, is it the

1061
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: same hip it's sore. Yeah, it's twenty fifteen though when

1062
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: he had the service. Yes, yeah, that's that concerns you

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00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, it's like being great doing great.

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Speaker 1: I don't think if you're gonna trade, you're gonna trade

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00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: for a defensive player. You would trade for potentially a

1066
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: lineback or a corner somebody like that I think would

1067
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: be your best option offensive lineman. Mickey's right, it's something

1068
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: that people just don't usually move on. The whole league's

1069
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: looking for offensive Oh yeah, that is true. Now let's

1070
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: just clear up any other confusion. I'm seeing a lot

1071
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: of questions about the Ezekiel Elliott case. It is set

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00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: to begin at one pm Central time, less than an

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00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: hour now here in New Orleans, and it will determine

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00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: if Elliott it will be forced to serve the suspension

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00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: immediately or likely not at all this year. So Rob, guys,

1076
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: can you explain this little bit? Lawyer Rob Good go ahead.

1077
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: So they are the NFL is challenging the preliminary injunction.

1078
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: Bottom line is if if this appellate court grants a stay,

1079
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: then I technically I believe the suspension and can begin immediately.

1080
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: So we'll see if if they don't, if they make

1081
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: whenever they make their decision, Yeah, it may not be

1082
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: a ruling from the bench today. We'll see if they

1083
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: decide to throw out the stay. They don't grant the stay,

1084
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: then this thing may go into very well into twenty eighteen.

1085
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: He plays the entire season, because it's got to make

1086
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: its way through the courts. Think about Tom Brady a

1087
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. It's going to end up in

1088
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Can you believe that that's our court

1089
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: system right now? A football matter ending up in the

1090
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Seriously, you're in session now, aren't they? Yeah,

1091
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're sitting there going. Are you kidding me?

1092
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: We got bigger kid in me. Yeah, to worry about

1093
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: than this now we saw earlier this season and just

1094
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: clear up everything. To spend something that you just have

1095
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: to keep exact marks on it, it can be confusing.

1096
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: You said, you know there could not be a decision today,

1097
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: They could take it earlier later this week. How does

1098
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: that affect his plane for this game this week? You

1099
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: know we've seen the NFL kind of be like, Okay,

1100
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna play this week. Just don't think that. I

1101
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: think to run out. Well, I think they're so fed up. Yeah,

1102
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: I think they say no, no, there's no stay year out.

1103
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: He could he could participate all week in practice. And

1104
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: we get to Friday and they get the word to

1105
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: suspend him. They are going to suspend him immediately. They

1106
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 1: might get I think they're not gonna they're not gonna

1107
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: give him another game. I think then they're they're tired

1108
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: of this in the past. Wow. I don't know if

1109
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: it's an official policy, but if I think it was

1110
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: unofficial Tuesday at three o'clock, if there's nothing new, then

1111
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: you go ahead and let him play. And I think

1112
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: it's really what happened I think with the Giants games,

1113
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: it was late enough in the week right decided okay

1114
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: he could Yeah, but yeah, Brian, Brian might be right

1115
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: that you know, No, I have to say, this thing

1116
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: is drag you know, there's this thing the commissioner as

1117
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: soon as they as soon as they win this, if

1118
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: if they win this in court, he will be suspended.

1119
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: They I wouldn't be surprised if the league came comes

1120
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: out the same day and says that he's suspended. They're

1121
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: gonna start this now. Wow wow and see. And that's

1122
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: why the nfl P wants to argue this thing and

1123
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: say we should be able to present our lawsuit against

1124
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: this thal because there's no irreparable harm to the league.

1125
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: If if he waits two weeks or three weeks, the

1126
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: suspension would still stand if they lose. So there's really

1127
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: kind of two cases going on at once because the

1128
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: NFL is also trying to have the courts throw out

1129
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: the lawsuit. They don't even want to go to court

1130
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: on that one, right, And if they do, they wanted

1131
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: in New York and not here in Texas or New Orleans. Right,

1132
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: So there's kind of a double edged deal going on

1133
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: today at one o'clock. Well, stay tuned. We'll keep you

1134
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: guys posted on that. But that's what my law degree.

1135
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: It tells me very law journalism school. That's right, law,

1136
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: that's the same thing. And I hated that we're talking about.

1137
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: We have a caller from New York. Costis from New York.

1138
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: What is your question? Hi? My question is about Switzer.

1139
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: I know how you guys sit on the draft show

1140
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: that he's going to take some risks. But isn't there

1141
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: a difference between taking risks and just smart football play?

1142
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 1: Like you're taking two two um kickoffs ten yards? Yeah,

1143
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: eight nine yards deep? Why why would you do this?

1144
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: There's so many things that could go wrong and the

1145
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: other thing, and um, I've only watched the game once,

1146
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: but it seems to me that Taco was getting blown

1147
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: off the ball, and then there's Heath. And finally, if

1148
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: you could, how do you evaluate how the offensive line

1149
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: is doing? All right? Thanks? Thanks, thank you? Okay, Well

1150
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: he got right to it. Take We've we've really talked

1151
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: about the offensive line quite a bit. I feel like,

1152
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you know, and that's it's kind of

1153
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: like the Okay, I'm lobbing this question in there. Point yeah,

1154
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: we've not heard Switzer too. I mean, and I'm not

1155
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: going to go around it, but no, if you seriously,

1156
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: we talked about him and he referenced the Draft show

1157
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: because that's what myself and David Hellman and Dane Burgler

1158
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: talking to him. Yeah, well we talked about him. That

1159
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: ability has if you go back and watch him play

1160
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: at North Carolina, he is a dynamic player with the

1161
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, and he has the ability to

1162
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: change field positions. It now is it? Is it a

1163
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: thing where you say a common sense oh, don't do

1164
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: this football intelligence. Guys that make plays make plays, you know,

1165
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: they they take risks, they take chances just because of

1166
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: he fumbled this ball, and yes it was a huge

1167
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: play in this game. But I do go back to

1168
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: last week and I do feel like that, Okay, what

1169
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: was the difference in the Cardinal game last week? Switzer's

1170
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: ability to return punts and Chris Jones's ability to pen

1171
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: them down? Yea, we were that that was it. Hey,

1172
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: we were. We were praising Chris Jones and Switzer's ability

1173
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: to do these things. You know, Patrick Peterson didn't have

1174
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: a return and their punter Andy Andy Lee didn't do

1175
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 1: a very good job. I asked coach Garrett last week,

1176
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: do you how do you balance the very same question

1177
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: the caller had, how do you balance being fearless and

1178
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: being smart with ball? And he said, you want him

1179
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: to be both? So yeah, and he is fearless and

1180
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna make big plays for this team. He's just

1181
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: got to make a better decision. They're playing simple. Okay.

1182
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: So I saw the Steelers shield up there. Just for

1183
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: the record. You know, when we talk about Dez, you

1184
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: know he gets shut down, but Antonio Brown never gets

1185
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: shut down. Happen yesterday. Happened yesterday, and he was squawking too.

1186
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: He was hot enough targets through a gatorade bucket. I

1187
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: saw that. Yeah, well, we'll throw a gatorade bucket if

1188
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Speaker 1: you guys don't join us tomorrow and too. By the way, oh,

1189
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: mickey as a fool gatorade bucket. So make sure you

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Speaker 1: join us tomorrow eleven thirty am Central Time. Back here

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