WEBVTT - I’m Here So I’m Gonna Win with Mikaela Shiffrin

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello Catherine.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Chelsea, Hi, Hi, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Are fresh off your Vegas residency.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so ridiculous. We kicked it off. We kicked

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<v Speaker 1>off my Vegas residency. It was fucking epic. I had

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<v Speaker 1>the thunder from down Under guys carry me out on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, should we do this? I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see why not. And then I had Natasha Lazeiro

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<v Speaker 1>open for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't gotten to perform with her in like twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was fucking so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a bunch of friends come.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we all went gambling after, and even though

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<v Speaker 1>I left with less money than I started with, I

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<v Speaker 1>was supporting my whole table with their gambling because once

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<v Speaker 1>everyone ran out of money, I started handing out chips,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, So I consider it to be a huge

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<v Speaker 1>win anyway, because I still left with money and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't blow it all, and I'm just so excited about

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<v Speaker 1>this residency. We flew in at like four o'clock. I

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<v Speaker 1>went down to the bar, made some surprise drinks for

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<v Speaker 1>some customers because they have a Chelsea drink there now

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<v Speaker 1>in my honor excellent Chelsea at the cons of my

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<v Speaker 1>hotel and then yeah, I can't. I'm just it was

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<v Speaker 1>really fun and it's it was huge. I was like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a big deal. So yeah, my next dates

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<v Speaker 1>are November second and November thirtieth, and then all throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the year. So check my schedule. Mofos and this week

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm coming to Foxwood's in Connecticut and Portland, Maine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be in performing in Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have somebody Importland, Maine.

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<v Speaker 3>We went to a gorgeous restaurant called Eventide, and we

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<v Speaker 3>started chatting with the bartender and her name was also

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<v Speaker 3>Catherine with a seat and you know, she says, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you do? And we started talking about podcasts and

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<v Speaker 3>all those of the podcast on she goes, oh, Chelsea

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<v Speaker 3>Hndler's been in here.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was like, great, that's perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've got to go back to Eventide and say

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<v Speaker 3>hi to Catherine if you're there.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that in Portland?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, in Portland, Maine.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a like a bar in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like a big bar in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the restaurant, part oyster bar, part bar bar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's cute. That's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on an oyster kick lately, so I'm really going

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<v Speaker 1>after it. Doug did not make it to Vegas. He

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<v Speaker 1>came to my show on Friday night, and he's such

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<v Speaker 1>a dream boat.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he is so affectionate with men too.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, oh good, Yeah, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Is really just he's getting better and better and better.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I want to do like an ambastardorship for chows.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a rebrand?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to rebrand chows.

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<v Speaker 4>They really are sweet dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they get a bad rap because they were

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<v Speaker 3>like bread for fighting, but like they're really really mushy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean they're originally from China, so whatever that means.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like pugs, we both have Chinese dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean who knew?

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<v Speaker 5>Who knew?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this week we have an awesome gas.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so happy to have this person on my podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you who do not follow skiing, she

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<v Speaker 1>is the winningest skier of all time, and yes that

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<v Speaker 1>is the word they use. She has broken every record

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<v Speaker 1>in skiing. She is the ultimate champion and I just

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<v Speaker 1>am in such awe of her and her name is

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<v Speaker 1>Mikhayla Schiffrin and I get the pleasure of speaking with

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<v Speaker 1>her today. Please welcome Mikayla Schiffrin. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeay, yay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited to introduce our very special guest today

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<v Speaker 1>because it's very hard to pin this woman down. She's very,

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<v Speaker 1>very fucking busy. Okay, she is. She's not gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>this intro. She's gonna get shy, but I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>She is the.

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<v Speaker 1>Winningest alpine ski racer of all time. Or you could

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<v Speaker 1>also refer to her as the greatest alpine ski racer

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. Or you could refer to her as

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<v Speaker 1>a two time Olympic champion and a seven time World

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<v Speaker 1>champion and a five time overalled World Cup champion. This

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<v Speaker 1>woman is fucking phenomenal. And her name is Mikayla Shiffrid. Welcome, Mikaela.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm dying.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're shy and that you're low key, and

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<v Speaker 1>that this is embarrassing for you, and that was my intention.

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<v Speaker 5>I expected nothing less, No, thank you. That was amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm so happy to see your face. This is Catherine,

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<v Speaker 1>my producer. Hi, welcome to Dear Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm so happy I get to see you

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<v Speaker 2>face to face. Finally.

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<v Speaker 1>We've DMed before and you've talked a little bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>little short messages, but we've never really gotten a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to talk. So I know you're so busy and that

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<v Speaker 1>you just came back from Paris and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>be a spectator. So yes, first tell me what that

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<v Speaker 1>was like, because it must have been so nice to

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<v Speaker 1>watch people perform and be at their at their best

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<v Speaker 1>without actually having to do much on your own.

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<v Speaker 6>You're totally right, it was. I was kind of like,

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<v Speaker 6>m this spectating thing is pretty nice. It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, those athletes, they're insane, and even the athlete

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<v Speaker 6>who don't win, the athletes who are maybe expected to

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<v Speaker 6>win and don't win, but you're like, you're just I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know. Somehow, taking a step back and watching it

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<v Speaker 6>from that perspective opened my eyes a little bit to

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<v Speaker 6>Like when we're there and I'm racing and I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 6>the pressure and I feel like it's the be all

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<v Speaker 6>end all, like this is the end of the world,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm looking back at it, I'm like, holy shit, no,

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<v Speaker 6>Like everybody here is really good and this is like

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<v Speaker 6>a really good show. I don't know if it takes

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<v Speaker 6>pressure off or it puts pressure on or it changes

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<v Speaker 6>that at all, but it just gives me like a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit of perspective.

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<v Speaker 5>It was super inspirational, so it was good time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was also very poignant as a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole conversation around mental health and what happened with

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<v Speaker 1>Simone Biles just really kind of kicked this Olympics off

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that made everybody aware of the power

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<v Speaker 1>of being an athlete and the power of actually taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of yourself right, and the power of standing up

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself in a sport, which was just true of

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<v Speaker 1>most sports where people don't aren't allowed the room to

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<v Speaker 1>stand up for themselves, or they have male coaches that

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<v Speaker 1>are in a complete dysfunctional power dynamic where you're just

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<v Speaker 1>being worked worked, worked, worked worked, And I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was so empowering to have someone come back and

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<v Speaker 1>kick ass in the way that she did. And then

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<v Speaker 1>all the other female athletes who got gold medals, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the black female athletes that got gold medals, ye,

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<v Speaker 1>and the black excellence that we saw, you know, during

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<v Speaker 1>these Olympics, it was on full display. So I know

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<v Speaker 1>you talk a lot, You've spoken a lot about your

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<v Speaker 1>own mental health and your own journey its struggles, however

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<v Speaker 1>you want to frame it. So what was it like

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<v Speaker 1>for you as an athlete having experienced all of those

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<v Speaker 1>things seeing it demonstrated and spoken about in this very

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<v Speaker 1>public way.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that the whole experience made me feel really grateful,

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<v Speaker 6>like really appreciative. Like I was actually thinking about this

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<v Speaker 6>last night, not to be weird, but in the shower,

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<v Speaker 6>like where I do most of my thinking thinking about someone.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was like, shit. She tweeted something about, like

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<v Speaker 6>stop asking us what we're gonna do right after we

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<v Speaker 6>win an Olympic medal, like I'm gonna go babysit my medal,

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<v Speaker 6>that kind of thing, and I was laughing at it.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was like, that is true, and good for

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<v Speaker 6>her for actually calling that out, because I always wait,

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<v Speaker 6>I walk away from those conversations like why am I

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<v Speaker 6>so frustrated that this person is interested in what I

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<v Speaker 6>want to do with my life and what I'm doing

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<v Speaker 6>after this. But the fact is you're like I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>have like a really really thought out plan for the

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<v Speaker 6>next three month. Like we were like, we're just trying

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<v Speaker 6>to get here so far, so like we're kind of

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<v Speaker 6>making it up as we go. But the other side

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<v Speaker 6>of it is nobody really knows how to say thank

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<v Speaker 6>you face to face. Like honestly, all we really want

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<v Speaker 6>to say to her is thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, on behalf of female athletes, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear what you're saying, and I know that you've

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of similar experiences although it's a completely

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<v Speaker 1>different sport. It's so interesting to look at all the

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<v Speaker 1>different sports, right because there's like in Mikaela's sport, there's

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<v Speaker 1>different disciplines. She trains for different disciplines, which is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of unheard of. You have to have like completely separate

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<v Speaker 1>training programs. She's not just doing one thing, she's doing

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<v Speaker 1>multiple things. And for a lot of these athletes, like gymnasts,

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<v Speaker 1>they are also doing multiple things. They're doing floor routines,

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing the uneven bars, they're doing the horse and

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things. But for you, Mikaela, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you've been through tough times. I know your dad passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>You've spoken about that publicly, very beautifully and you started

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<v Speaker 1>a foundation in his name. You went through a difficult

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<v Speaker 1>season understandably so after your dad passed away, and the

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<v Speaker 1>next year you came back and basically broke every record

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<v Speaker 1>that was possible. So for men and women, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she has more or wins than men and women. So

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<v Speaker 1>so tell us a little bit about that now that

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<v Speaker 1>you have some perspective and what you learned and where

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<v Speaker 1>your greatest source of strength came from, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>you must have felt so so low at times and

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<v Speaker 1>not wanting to even compete and then you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>competing well or at your best, and how you turn

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<v Speaker 1>that around because it's all so similar.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think our greatest source of strength is time.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just being able to give yourself the grace of

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<v Speaker 6>taking time. And we don't really we're not trained to

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<v Speaker 6>do that as athletes. We're trained to be faster and

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<v Speaker 6>to go faster and to do things better and quicker

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<v Speaker 6>and stronger, and it's all like strength is taken very literally.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like how much weight can you squat and whatever,

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<v Speaker 6>how fast you can get down the mountain. And for me,

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<v Speaker 6>that first season after my dad passed was like this

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<v Speaker 6>grace period season in my own mind, it was like,

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to actually figure out. That whole season

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<v Speaker 6>for me was helping me decide if I still wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to be a ski racer. And I just didn't want

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<v Speaker 6>to quit before I gave myself a real chance to try.

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<v Speaker 6>But there were so many points during that season where

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<v Speaker 6>I just wanted to stop. I mean, I think it

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<v Speaker 6>was about a week and a half before going to

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<v Speaker 6>the Olympics. I remember having this race I just had

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<v Speaker 6>COVID twenty twenty two, was two years after my dad

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<v Speaker 6>had passed away. But you're still like, Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to be doing this. But even then, I was.

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<v Speaker 6>At a ski race in Austria and I was fifth

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<v Speaker 6>after the first run, not that far off. I had

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<v Speaker 6>a chance to pull back time in the second run

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<v Speaker 6>and potentially win, and I was having like a full

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<v Speaker 6>on breakdown with my mom in the car.

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<v Speaker 5>In the parking lot.

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<v Speaker 6>We didn't go to like the athlete hospitality that's what

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<v Speaker 6>they call, but it's really a tent and a parking

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<v Speaker 6>lot at the bottom of a ski race.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just like where we go between runs.

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<v Speaker 6>But we had gotten off in our separate space and

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<v Speaker 6>I was bawling. I was like, I want to go home,

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<v Speaker 6>and she's like, you're not. You didn't ski that bad,

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<v Speaker 6>like you have a good chance at this race. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 6>it's not about that. I'm so tired. I just spent

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<v Speaker 6>almost two weeks in quarantine. The Olympics are coming up,

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<v Speaker 6>and into two weeks I had COVID as close to

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<v Speaker 6>the games as you could possibly have it without it

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<v Speaker 6>keeping you from being able to participate, which means you're

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<v Speaker 6>stuck inside basically in a hotel room for ten days

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<v Speaker 6>right before you go to the Olympic Games. I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just tired. I'm tired from not doing anything. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>tired from not being able to train, like training and

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<v Speaker 6>skiing gives me life. And I'm just so frustrated and

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<v Speaker 6>I don't care about this race this like this race

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<v Speaker 6>has nothing to do with it or whether I win

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<v Speaker 6>or not. Like that's really I couldn't care less, but

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<v Speaker 6>I want to I just want to be home. The

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<v Speaker 6>thing that would make me feel good right now is

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<v Speaker 6>by booking a plane ticket home. And she was like, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>let's just get through the second run and then we'll

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<v Speaker 6>get back to our lodging and we'll book the ticket

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<v Speaker 6>and I was like, Okay, I can do that, and

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<v Speaker 6>then I ended up pulling back. It was like I

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<v Speaker 6>had given up and then ended pulling back the race,

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<v Speaker 6>winning the race. It was this whole historic thing because

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<v Speaker 6>this first time that the women had raced and schladming,

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<v Speaker 6>which is normally a men's venu, and it was this

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<v Speaker 6>whole exciting ordeal and I was just like totally withdrawn

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<v Speaker 6>from the whole thing. And it was the first time

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<v Speaker 6>that I actually drank the champagne bottle that they gave up,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's like a big it's a big bottle. I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, give that fucking thing. It was just like

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know exactly where I'm going with that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I hear your story, But what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>of that? Do you look at that as like a lesson?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think because I mean, it's so true in

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<v Speaker 1>the moments where we're ready to give up and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pleasing I'm not grouping myself in with you as an athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the life moments that we're all ready to

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<v Speaker 1>give up, that's when miracles do happen.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's where like all of your training, all of your discipline,

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<v Speaker 1>all of your expertise kind of comes in sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>you're not available to do it yourself, everything else works

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<v Speaker 1>for you, like.

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<v Speaker 6>The instinct that you've trained actually takes over. Because I

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<v Speaker 6>just didn't have a capacity to think or to really

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<v Speaker 6>care at that point, right, So then I was just

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<v Speaker 6>like purely skiing and it was one of the best

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<v Speaker 6>runs I've ever taken. It was like raw, I almost

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<v Speaker 6>want to say, unemotional. It was just skiing and it

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<v Speaker 6>was a pretty pivotal moment for me. But then all

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<v Speaker 6>I needed was just to get through this moment. I

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<v Speaker 6>just needed to put one foot in front of the other.

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<v Speaker 6>I just needed time and it's going to take longer

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<v Speaker 6>than that, and it, you know, I didn't like I

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<v Speaker 6>struggled through the Olympics, and I struggled on and off

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<v Speaker 6>that season. I also had amazing results. I won some

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<v Speaker 6>races and it wasn't a bad season altogether. It was

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<v Speaker 6>just like it was just a mentally and emotionally challenging season,

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<v Speaker 6>and every season presents something that's challenging. So since then,

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<v Speaker 6>I've just been like time and breathe through it, and like,

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<v Speaker 6>when I'm feeling really shitty, just give myself the grace

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<v Speaker 6>of time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then season twenty twenty three, which was last year

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<v Speaker 1>when you went buck wild one race after another.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just And I have friends in the ski

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<v Speaker 1>that run the US ski and snowboard teams, so they

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<v Speaker 1>are always updating me on Michael information if I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>in the country or something, because I just I just

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<v Speaker 1>fucking love watching you excel. I mean, it just brings

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<v Speaker 1>me such joy. And I can only imagine how your

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<v Speaker 1>own fucking mother feels. I mean, she must be bouncing

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<v Speaker 1>off the walls. But how did that feel when you came?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, and I know it's not effortless, of

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<v Speaker 1>course it's not. It's years and years of training and

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<v Speaker 1>it's and it's talent. It's innate talent that you are

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<v Speaker 1>honing all of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did it feel? Well, how does it feel.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're on a run like that and you keep winning,

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<v Speaker 1>you keep coming in first.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it feel lucky?

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<v Speaker 1>Like do you feel like, Okay, finally I'm in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of this or does it feel fragile?

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<v Speaker 5>That is so interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>It feels kind of a mix of everything, Like it's

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<v Speaker 6>on the one side, it's knowing that that run could

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<v Speaker 6>end at any moment, because it really depends on how

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<v Speaker 6>the other athletes are skiing and if they figure it out,

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<v Speaker 6>if they change their sk boots and that boot just

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<v Speaker 6>gives them a little extra power, and all of a

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<v Speaker 6>sudden they figure out their timing and they just and

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<v Speaker 6>they're just become faster. Like those are things that were

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<v Speaker 6>sort of that's what we're battling every race, and this

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<v Speaker 6>season I just had the edge on everyone more often

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<v Speaker 6>than not. And then there was a whole record that

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<v Speaker 6>was the that was the record season, and I was

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<v Speaker 6>in this mindset where I was like, I don't care

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<v Speaker 6>about the record. I don't care about it, and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>and people are gonna ask and I'm used to them asking,

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<v Speaker 6>so that doesn't even bother me anymore. And I did

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<v Speaker 6>a pretty good job. My whole team, we all did

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<v Speaker 6>a really good job to kind of put that whole

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<v Speaker 6>thing aside, so we really just focused on the skiing.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's like sometimes the season with the seasons with

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<v Speaker 6>the most opportunity, where most people would start to get greedy,

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<v Speaker 6>I tend to like settle in and just be like, well,

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<v Speaker 6>one race at a time, one training day at a time,

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<v Speaker 6>Like I'm not taking this for granted. I'm this might

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<v Speaker 6>I might not win tomorrow, so I'm like gonna do

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<v Speaker 6>the best that I can today and then we'll focus

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<v Speaker 6>on tomorrow when it happens. And I just am really

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<v Speaker 6>really present in the moment. And that was how that

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<v Speaker 6>season was. It was just like not fragile, but just

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<v Speaker 6>like very grateful. I guess the headline for the season

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<v Speaker 6>was gratitude. Those are my best seasons ever, is when

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just kind of feeling grateful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that applies to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different things too, you know. I think when you do

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<v Speaker 1>have the gratitude for what your experience, the abundance does come.

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<v Speaker 1>Because she didn't just break the record, she just kept

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<v Speaker 1>breaking it and breaking it over and over again. And

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<v Speaker 1>then this past season she got hurt. You tore your mcl.

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<v Speaker 6>Right MCL then, and I explained my ankle, which sounds

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<v Speaker 6>like so stupid, but that thing.

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<v Speaker 5>That is what hurt the most.

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<v Speaker 2>So ny and ankle.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't take any of your injuries seriously because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't seem to keep you down for very long.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sorry for my lack of my lack of combassion.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody knew nobody knew about the ankle because I didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh, I hurt my knee, but the

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<v Speaker 5>ankle kind of we it later. It doesn't matter. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Your fiance was in a brutal ski accident. And this

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<v Speaker 1>ski accident was like it was real. It was really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to even hear about. I can't even imagine what

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<v Speaker 1>you guys went through. His name is Alexander, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>been dating for I think three years, right, mckaiah, right, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's in a terrible ski accident, which happened first.

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<v Speaker 5>His happened first. Mine was a couple of weeks later.

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<v Speaker 1>And his correct me if I'm wrong, hit a major artery,

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<v Speaker 1>and if he hadn't been on a ski mountain with

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<v Speaker 1>professional help so close by, it could have been really disastrous.

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<v Speaker 6>His was life threatening. He missed the artery, thankfully, because

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<v Speaker 6>he would have died, but he cut his cat He

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<v Speaker 6>basically cut his leg almost clean off, and he severed

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<v Speaker 6>a nerve like the most important motor function and sensory

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<v Speaker 6>nerve for your entire lower leg. So he completely lost

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<v Speaker 6>feeling in his foot and motor control, and the motor

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<v Speaker 6>control is now coming back, thankfully. But the feeling is

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<v Speaker 6>likely never going to really come back. And his shoulder.

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<v Speaker 6>So the leg is actually now in pretty good shape,

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<v Speaker 6>but the shoulder, the doctor basically said that his surgeon

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<v Speaker 6>basically said, I've been doing this.

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<v Speaker 5>For like twenty years.

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<v Speaker 6>I've never seen an accident a shoulder, Like I just

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<v Speaker 6>presented on the worst rotator cuff injuries I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 6>two weeks ago, and I wish I was doing that

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<v Speaker 6>presentation now because this is the worst I've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're like.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh good, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 6>But he he was doing really really well, he was

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<v Speaker 6>improving really well, and then this like fluke freak thing

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<v Speaker 6>happened a couple weeks ago and he got an infection

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<v Speaker 6>in the shoulder and or they found it a couple

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<v Speaker 6>weeks ago. It was like festering underneath for a while.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's like a fairly big setback. But overall he

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<v Speaker 6>is so positive and now he's like, Okay, well this

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<v Speaker 6>absolutely sucks, but I'm gonna just these are the cars

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<v Speaker 6>I'm dealt now, so let's take that. And that like

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<v Speaker 6>he signed up to do some studies like an online

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<v Speaker 6>core for the next eight weeks and he can't do

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<v Speaker 6>much until he's gone through the course of antibiotics, so

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<v Speaker 6>he's like, all right, well we'll make the use of

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<v Speaker 6>the time now. And that's for me, that's incredibly inspiring, because,

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<v Speaker 6>like you said, my injury was I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 6>a big injury, but it was minor in the grand

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<v Speaker 6>scheme of things, especially compared to Alex. And I came

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<v Speaker 6>back the same season and I won my last two races,

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<v Speaker 6>so it was a kind of a bummer, but I

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<v Speaker 6>still had a really successful season and I'm just sort

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<v Speaker 6>of brushing it off like these things happened. But for him,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, God, you're so inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and also, I mean, to be in the same

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<v Speaker 1>sport together and to have had bigger injuries than just

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<v Speaker 1>your MCL this past season. Not to minimize that, but

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<v Speaker 1>you've had bigger injuries. Well, what does it mean for

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<v Speaker 1>you to be able to kind of show up for

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<v Speaker 1>someone that you love so much when they're in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation that you're familiar with as a competitor and then

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<v Speaker 1>as a fiance.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, you know, we see a lot of pretty

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<v Speaker 6>horrific crashes and ski racing. For whatever reason, this year

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<v Speaker 6>was more than any other season we've had just so

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<v Speaker 6>many athletes got bad injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you watch her coming down the mountain,

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<v Speaker 1>like when she comes out of a gate when she's

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<v Speaker 1>doing downhill, I would rather I mean I would sit

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<v Speaker 1>on my ass and just hope to God I could

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<v Speaker 1>get down to the mountain.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot believe the risk on their.

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<v Speaker 1>Lives that they are taking every single time someone's ski races.

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<v Speaker 2>It is insanity.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, Okay, So a couple back in May we went

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<v Speaker 6>to the F one race in Monaco and we met

0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.119
<v Speaker 6>Yuki Sonoda and Alex and Yuki were like totally had

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<v Speaker 6>a romance going, and you know, Yuki was like, wow,

0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.360
<v Speaker 6>that's so crazy what you do. And Alex was like, well,

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<v Speaker 6>what you do is more dangerous, and I was like.

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<v Speaker 5>Whoa well, whoa wa.

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<v Speaker 6>They have a car, like a very very protective, secure

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<v Speaker 6>car like fire Through. It's not that it's not dangerous,

0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.639
<v Speaker 6>it's just we're doing this with literally razor blades and

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<v Speaker 6>like you've got like a light fence in front of

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<v Speaker 6>the pile of trees, Like we're not protected at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't mistake this.

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<v Speaker 1>What we do is really and if one thing goes wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a massive injury. Yeah, it's very rare that they

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<v Speaker 1>wipe out and like they haven't heard anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it does happen.

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<v Speaker 6>If you crash, you pretty much get hurt and then

0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.040
<v Speaker 6>it's just a matter of how hurt you get. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>so I flew to the hospital to meet him. He

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<v Speaker 6>like had the emergency evac went to the hospital in

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<v Speaker 6>Switzerland and I went to meet him.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was in Austria.

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<v Speaker 6>So we like my and my family, my brother and

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<v Speaker 6>his and my sister in law, they had just arrived.

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<v Speaker 6>My mom, she travels with me as my coach. They

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<v Speaker 6>all just like, well, we're just coming with you and

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<v Speaker 6>we're just gonna help if we can help, or we'll

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<v Speaker 6>just keep you company, or we'll like logistically whatever whatever

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<v Speaker 6>you need. So we got there and I was there

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<v Speaker 6>when Alex woke up from his surgery and the poor

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I've never experienced a situation like this, like ye,

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<v Speaker 6>this his accident was on a different level from most

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<v Speaker 6>crashes in skiing because the severity of his shoulder and

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<v Speaker 6>the severity of his leg. His shoulder was causing him

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<v Speaker 6>an insane amount of pain, but they weren't addressing that

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<v Speaker 6>because they had to tournique his leg and get him

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<v Speaker 6>to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 5>So he had two.

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<v Speaker 6>Hours where his shoulder was out of completely out of place,

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<v Speaker 6>and he was just like ten out of ten pain.

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<v Speaker 6>He was like pat He kept passing out from the

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<v Speaker 6>pain and then wake up in a panic, and he

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<v Speaker 6>had seen his own leg and he didn't care about it.

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<v Speaker 6>He was like, please fix my shoulder, and they're like, no,

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<v Speaker 6>just we'll get to it. And this the whole story

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<v Speaker 6>is like horrific. As he's sitting on the mountain and

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<v Speaker 6>then he gets taken away by the helicopter and he's

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<v Speaker 6>dangling by the rope and then the sled starts spinning

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<v Speaker 6>out of control and that made him sick.

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<v Speaker 5>And then like they were giving.

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<v Speaker 6>Him, you know, morphine, which is one of the things

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<v Speaker 6>that they give you immediately and that I don't know

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:56.320
<v Speaker 6>if he's allergic to it or what, but he got

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<v Speaker 6>really sick from it, which is a common response. So

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<v Speaker 6>when he woke up in the hospital, he was asking

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<v Speaker 6>about his split times from the race, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>sitting there like, oh my god. First of all, your

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<v Speaker 6>leg is your leg's.

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<v Speaker 5>Gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 6>You didn't lose your leg, like you can look down,

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<v Speaker 6>you can look down at your feet.

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't lose your.

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<v Speaker 2>Leg, And were you the first person who told him that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>And he was like oh, and he's like, I fucked

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<v Speaker 6>up my face and like, your face is really surprisingly

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<v Speaker 6>not that bad, Like you've got some scratches, but those

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.120
<v Speaker 6>are also going to heal. It was just sad because

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<v Speaker 6>the last time that I had been in a hospital

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<v Speaker 6>in a situation where somebody hooked up to that many

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<v Speaker 6>wires was when my dad died. And I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>just please don't die, you know. And at that point

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 6>he was stable, but it was still he wasn't really

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<v Speaker 6>in the clear for the next two weeks because a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of like post traumatic head stuff can come up.

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<v Speaker 6>And he had you know, full body scan and we

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<v Speaker 6>were really checking every part of his body to make

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<v Speaker 6>sure there were no other internal injuries or.

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<v Speaker 5>Anything like that.

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<v Speaker 6>But it was just a really really intense first twenty

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<v Speaker 6>four hours and then two weeks and then.

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<v Speaker 5>It's still going right.

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<v Speaker 1>But being there for him in that way, especially when

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.679
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that about your dad, you're right, It's funny

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the way that life works, you know, where these situations

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<v Speaker 1>present yourselves and you're like, oh, okay, this I don't have.

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 1>Now you have a different experience with that hospital. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a different experience with somebody in that state in

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<v Speaker 1>that hospital that is surviving, and that that experience was

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<v Speaker 1>given to you, even though it's not something you would

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<v Speaker 1>ever think to ask for.

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<v Speaker 6>Right It's like, in the immediate time, you like, why

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.199
<v Speaker 6>would this happen to someone I love? But then in

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 6>the end it's like I kind of see it as

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<v Speaker 6>a gift because he has gotten through it better than

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 6>we could ever imagine, and he's still going through it.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's also like a lesson in mentality about how

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 6>these really shitty things happened to people, and like he

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 6>he has gone through so much pain and he finds

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<v Speaker 6>a way to s smile and say thank you and

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<v Speaker 6>look forward to things, and you're just like, okay, it's

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 6>just it's all gonna it's gonna be okay. Like even

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.199
<v Speaker 6>if it's not okay, it's gonna be okay. When you

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 6>have that kind of a mindset, time is the biggest

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 6>gift that we have. And if you can just somehow

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 6>get through the hardest moments, then you just always you

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 6>kind of always come out on the other side like

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm still somehow okay, And in that moment, I'm like

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<v Speaker 6>I had a race the next two two days later,

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<v Speaker 6>I think, or like within the next two days, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, if I don't make it back for

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<v Speaker 6>that race, I really don't care.

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 5>It's just the perspective.

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<v Speaker 6>Comes in and you're like, as much as ski racing

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<v Speaker 6>is in the forefront for me, like I really don't care.

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<v Speaker 6>I ended up making back it back for that race,

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<v Speaker 6>and then I won the race. And it was only

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<v Speaker 6>because like, if I'm going to leave him to go

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<v Speaker 6>to a ski race, then I better fucking win the

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 6>ski race. I'm not like, there's no other option here.

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<v Speaker 6>And it was it was one of those weird there's

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 6>like a demon took over my body because I had

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<v Speaker 6>no right to I had slept on the floor of

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 6>the hospital. It's like, I have no right to be

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<v Speaker 6>winning this race. I really probably shouldn't even be doing it,

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 6>but I'm here, so I will.

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:11.360
<v Speaker 5>I will win.

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 2>But that's your superpower. That's your superpower.

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 1>That's why you're such a fucking badass, because you do

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<v Speaker 1>fucking win over and over and over again in dark moments,

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and I know you've had, and I like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel about Do you feel like your dad's with

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<v Speaker 1>you when you ski race?

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<v Speaker 6>No? I mean this is sort of a this speaking

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 6>and dark. You know, Everybody's like, oh, I can feel

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 6>my life. I can feel my loved ones. I can

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 6>feel the people I've lost, Like sometimes when a certain

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 6>wind blows, I feel like they're with me, or I

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 6>get these moments and a like a quiet I get

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:45.879
<v Speaker 6>these feelings in a quiet moment, They're there, and like,

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<v Speaker 6>I have not had that kind of experience, not not

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<v Speaker 6>in the way people explain it, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>I keep expecting it and it's still I just I

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<v Speaker 6>think about him a lot. I have dreams about him,

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<v Speaker 6>like walking through the door, and I look forward to

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 6>these dreams so much and I can't control when they happen,

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 6>but when they do, I'm just like, please stay asleep

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 6>as long as possible, because then when I wake up,

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 6>it's like waking up as a nightmare, which is sort

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 6>of shitty, but that's how I feel. But when I'm racing,

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 6>you need to focus on what you're doing when you're

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 6>ski racing, because it's dangerous. Maybe my superpower is like

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 6>the hyper focus people are like, can you just be

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 6>a little bit more fun?

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<v Speaker 1>What was one of the moments that you've had where

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<v Speaker 1>you were really proud of how you handled yourself.

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<v Speaker 6>Right now, what I'm thinking of is in Beijing, So

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I went through the whole I went through

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<v Speaker 6>the whole line of media and mix zone after every

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 6>time I crashed, and it was like you can either

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<v Speaker 6>walk by them and put the you know, the blinders

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<v Speaker 6>up and ignore them, and it's a line of like

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred or more different media outlets, and I was.

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 5>Like, no, I'm just just gonna.

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.919
<v Speaker 6>Tak And it was right after each race that was

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<v Speaker 6>not successful, it was like immediately thereafter, but particularly after

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<v Speaker 6>the I think it was the combined race where it

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<v Speaker 6>was like, oh, like, you really fucked that up, and

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 6>I was like, Okay, well, it's just going to talk.

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 5>To the people and see what comes up. And it's

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 5>not that I'm.

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 6>Proud of that, but I'm proud of going through that

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 6>and not coming out on the other side totally jaded

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 6>and angry at the media for doing their job that

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 6>they're supposed to do. That we're very very thankful for

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 6>when we win medals and we get put up on

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 6>the pedestal and you get sponsorship deals and your marketing

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 6>value goes sky high because of the media. They're asking

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 6>those questions when you're successful, but when you fail as

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 6>an athlete, it's so hard to be like, well, I

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 6>just want some privacy now, and you're like, well, that's

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 6>not really how this works, because they make me feel

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 6>amazing if I won.

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 5>So they're literally just doing a job. I guess I'm

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 5>proud of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great answer. I love that answer. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>On that note, we're going to take a break and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be right with some callers.

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<v Speaker 5>Mckalla.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna give out some advice to some strangers. Okay. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back with Mikaela, Schiffrien and Doug just joined

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<v Speaker 1>us on the couch. Hopefully you can see him in

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<v Speaker 1>the video sit down, love her boy.

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 2>It's so hard to see him because oh.

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<v Speaker 5>The couch, I know, beautiful. Thank you well.

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<v Speaker 4>Our first question comes from Ashley.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that ski racing related?

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<v Speaker 5>Actually?

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<v Speaker 4>Should we start with that one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, let's start with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's war Michaela up, don't worry, we went have you

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<v Speaker 1>on the conversation so you don't have to deal with

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>giving out too much advice, so don't feel too much fresh.

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<v Speaker 4>This comes from Amanda. She's forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Dear Chelsea, I had surgery on my knee this past June,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the second time I've blown out my ACL

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 3>while skiing to impress but ultimately letting fear make my movements.

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 3>The second surgery included an LCL enhancement to really help

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 3>my forty year old knee hang in there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>Advice on how to build strengthen my I need this winter,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as possibly wearing a brace in the future.

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 3>At the doctor, I felt pressure to upgrade to a

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<v Speaker 3>fancy ice machine post surgery, and now they're looking to

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<v Speaker 3>fit me for our brace. Do braces actually help or

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 3>is it better to build the strengthen the knee and

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<v Speaker 3>ski with awareness of how the knee is being impacted?

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much, Amanda.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well that's super interesting. Yeah.

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 3>She was like a little cagey about like are the

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 3>doctors just doing this to make a little extra walk?

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, no, it's true.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean that is there is a little bit of

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 6>that in the medical world, and obviously we're very very

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 6>thankful that they're there to take care of us and

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 6>fix us up. But so professional athletes, a lot of

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 6>us do ski with braces through knee injuries in order

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 6>to get back. It's not that it provides more stability.

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 6>Really like it's a brace, and it's also a mental brace.

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 6>It makes you feel like, okay, it's but it can

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 6>also become a bit of a crutch. And so we

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 6>are sort of told that as soon as you can

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 6>get out of the brace, get out of the brace.

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 6>Do with ACL reconstructions and surgeries, you need a brace

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 6>for a certain period of time. So it's I don't

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 6>know if they're giving you one for they're telling you

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<v Speaker 6>to buy it for the next years and years and

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 6>years of your life.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say wait on that.

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 6>As long as you have a brace for the short

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 6>period of getting through the initial part of this surgery.

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 6>But the most important thing is that you build up

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 6>the strength. You do the rehab work, you do, the

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 6>sort of motor control work, in balance work that is

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 6>really necessary for ACL surgeries and repairs, the neuromuscular connection

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 6>that is really lacking even after the tendon has healed thoroughly.

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<v Speaker 6>So for the next I would say for the next

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 6>two years, you really really need to stay on top

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 6>of any kind of neuromuscular work, apprope reception, balance training,

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 6>and then just your overall strength training, Like ham strings

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 6>are really important.

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 5>Ham string is strength is important.

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 6>Quad strength, building back your quad and your VMO is

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<v Speaker 6>really important.

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 5>And you can do a.

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<v Speaker 6>Lot of that with very basic tools. You don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 6>need to have like a huge squat rack or something

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 6>you can do. You can do squats and lunges in

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.959
<v Speaker 6>your house and that would be sufficient to kind of

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<v Speaker 6>build backstrength. Yeah.

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>And also like mckel is a professional skier, so like

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<v Speaker 2>you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>This woman doesn't sound like she's racing, like doing any

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>downhill Chicana rae. So like she sounds like a casual

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>skier like me. And if you're like me, first of

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>all everything she obviously the professional said, but on a

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<v Speaker 1>more casual a lay person, Yeah, a layperson, this is

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<v Speaker 1>your hobby.

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<v Speaker 2>Half the people I know ski with knee braces.

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I ski with knee brace half the time I had

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>ACL I have meniscus.

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<v Speaker 2>I have all that shit too.

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>But the strength training is the most important thing, like

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>single leg training, single leg squats, always building up your quads,

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and your hamstrings and your butt, like I didn't build

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>my butt.

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Enough up and that I paid for that last season.

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<v Speaker 1>So as long as you were constantly really fit, strong, like,

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be in good stead when you go.

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 2>And it is more of a mental thing to wear

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<v Speaker 2>a brace. But sometimes that's good.

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<v Speaker 6>Well it is mental, I did say, But you're totally right.

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 6>It's just and she definitely like, you definitely need the

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<v Speaker 6>brace in the first the first few months, that first

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<v Speaker 6>six month period, and then it's just like you said,

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<v Speaker 6>in order to help with stability. It is a mental thing, yes,

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 6>but it's like there's a reason they have braces. I

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 6>just don't want them to be telling you, like, in

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<v Speaker 6>six years, you're gonna need to be skiing with this

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 6>knee brace, so you better buy it now, Like that

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 6>might not necessarily be true. It depends on your comfort level,

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 6>and you're really skiing to have fun and be comfortable.

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 6>You're not skiing to win World Cup races, so your

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<v Speaker 6>goal is to be comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't stop trying. Sometimes it in so much pain

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>when I ski, but I never give up. Just don't

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>give up. You just don't get a shot at Corvo

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. You need to get through the day and

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>get down the mountain. Okay, that's how I look at it.

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 4>I thought you were gonna say courtA zone, but no.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those too. A shot a cortizone is great too,

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I love those.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, our first caller is Laney and she says she

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<v Speaker 3>is planning a wedding like you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Mikayla.

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<v Speaker 3>And she says, my boyfriend and I are planning on

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<v Speaker 3>getting married, and I wanted to use my grandmother's ring.

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 3>When we asked my dad about it, he was very

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<v Speaker 3>excited about the idea. My Greek name is Agatha after

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 3>my grandmother, and my boyfriend has the same name as

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 3>my grandfather, Nico. We also first met on my grandparents' anniversary,

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<v Speaker 3>so it feels sort of like Kismet to use the ring.

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 3>We had planned to use the ring with my father's blessing,

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<v Speaker 3>and then my stepmother told me that the ring is

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<v Speaker 3>hers and I need to quote get over it. I

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<v Speaker 3>should add that the ring has been sitting in a

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<v Speaker 3>bank for fifteen years, untouched, since my grandmother passed, and

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 3>it hasn't been given to anyone directly in the family.

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 3>My stepmom, who has been in my licence I was six.

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Has always treated me differently compared to my half sisters.

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 3>To paint a picture growing up, I was frequently not

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 3>included on family vacations, and my first car was a

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 3>used Mazda, while my younger sister was gifted a new

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 3>S Class Mercedes. Don't get me wrong, I've had a

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 3>more than fortunate life. College was paid for and I

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 3>have had a roof over my head thanks to the

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 3>financial assistance of my dad. But it's come with its

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 3>share of challenges, not the least of which was losing

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 3>my mom to Alzheimer's three years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>I really have learned not to ask for material things

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 3>because I don't want to get my hopes up only

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 3>to be let down. In fact, I fear getting married

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 3>because of that stress. But something about my grandmother's ring

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 3>holds some sentimental value to me. She's my guardian angel,

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 3>and I feel so deeply she would want me to

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:30.439
<v Speaker 3>have it, since I know my stepmom won't budge though.

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 3>We've gone ahead and designed something for him to use

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<v Speaker 3>when the time comes. But I can't stop thinking about

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<v Speaker 3>what other issues can arise with my stepmom as we

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 3>move into wedding planning. How can I navigate this tricky

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 3>relationship and not get cut off from the sentimental things

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 3>and traditions I hold Dear Laney. Oh that's hid Hi Laney, Hi, Lany, Hi, Hi.

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 2>This is our special guest, Mikayla schiffriend today.

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:53.919
<v Speaker 7>Hi.

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:55.919
<v Speaker 2>She's getting married too.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 5>I am so excited for you. Thanks you too. I'm

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 5>so excited.

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't gotten too deep in my own wedding planning,

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 6>but just listening to your story, Oh my god. First

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<v Speaker 6>of all, I'm sorry that you seem like you have

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 6>an incredible attitude after experiencing some pretty tough things with family,

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 6>So I'm sorry about that. I'm really inspired by your

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 6>just general mentality and attitude. I think it's incredible that

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 6>you've had the strength to say, you know, like picking

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 6>which battles you want to fight. I don't know, Chelsea,

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 6>like you might have better advice here, but I would say, like,

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 6>your wedding is your it's your thing, and that's a

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 6>place where I would say you need to stand up

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 6>for yourself. Is there something you feel strongly and passionate

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 6>about and about your own wedding and your own your

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 6>own relationship, your own future. I mean it sounds like

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 6>you already gave up the thought of this beautiful ring.

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, did you already give that thought up?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean I was told that there's not a ring

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 8>for me to have. It just thought about, like, oh,

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 8>it would be nice. It's so weird because my boyfriend

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 8>and I met, we learned it was the day of

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 8>my grandparents' anniversary.

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.280
<v Speaker 9>It's just like weird, little.

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 8>Like happenstances kept happening and it would be like really

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 8>nice to have it.

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 9>But I was told that there's not a ring. Oop.

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 8>Sorry, a landmower, just lawnmower just drove past me. I

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 8>was like, a landmow, Yeah, a landmower. She said, get

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 8>over it. It's mine, get over it. Maybe I'll get

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 8>it when she's dead, yeah, which she'll be fine.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I like that she thinks she's entitled to your grandmother's ring.

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I know, likelated, what does that have to do with it?

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 9>But that's okay.

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 8>You know, it is one of those things where you know,

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 8>I always feel like my grandparents and my family's has

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 8>passed on are always there with me.

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 9>They, for whatever reason, are protecting me over this.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't need to know the reason why I can't

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 8>or will not have it, and I've been given other

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 8>you know, I have her earrings from the wedding, from

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 8>her wedding, I have little pieces.

0:37:57.719 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 9>Of her that will always be there.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 8>But I think that right now it's the if this

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 8>is the stress over a over a ring, I can't

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 8>even imagine the stress over the actual wedding.

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<v Speaker 6>So okay, one thing about the ring. After my dad

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 6>passed away, my brother initially we just let him have

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:18.439
<v Speaker 6>my dad's ring.

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 5>It looks like this, this is the one beautiful.

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 6>And I was so distraught that my brother actually gave

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 6>it to me, and I think it was sort of temporary,

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 6>but he just said, like keep it. And then two

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:34.800
<v Speaker 6>years ago during the race season, I lost it. And

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 6>my initial reaction that was it was very painful for

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 6>a few days, especially maybe a few weeks, but I

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 6>ended up I ended up having one made that remind

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 6>and it's really like this, Like you said, it's a

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 6>sentimental value and it doesn't have to look exactly like

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 6>the ring.

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 5>But you what I would say is you've.

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 6>Created something that's your own with her in mind, in

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 6>honor of her, and because of that, the sentimental value

0:38:58.239 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 6>is there.

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 5>So I would say that it's really really beautiful.

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 6>And then the second thought is just stand up for

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:10.399
<v Speaker 6>yourself in the moments about like planning your wedding, leading

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 6>up to it and during it where you feel like, no,

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 6>this is not what I want and this day is

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 6>for me, and that's just you have to stand your

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 6>ground there.

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 5>And I hope that there are not too many things

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.919
<v Speaker 5>that you disagree on, like very aggressively.

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<v Speaker 9>But I'm pretty go with the flow to be yes.

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.760
<v Speaker 8>You know, my boyfriend's the one who wants the big wedding,

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 8>and I'm like, he's the princess and I'm trying to

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:37.320
<v Speaker 8>give him his princess dream.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh Nico.

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:42.360
<v Speaker 8>So even coming to peace with that part, it's more like, Okay,

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 8>I just talked to my psychic today, my medium over

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 8>over career stuff, not even about this, and she's like,

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 8>you're gonna have the big fact Greek wedding. Just let

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 8>it go, move on, Just don't be breadzilla.

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:56.280
<v Speaker 5>You are an incredible human.

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you get great attitude, totally great attitude, and that's

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:00.760
<v Speaker 1>always going to bring goodness.

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 2>You know your way.

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 1>And if there is a moment that comes up with

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 1>your stepmother, how involved is she in your wedding, not very.

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.720
<v Speaker 9>You know, I'm assuming she's going to be very involved.

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 8>My mom passed three years ago, and so you know,

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 8>wedding planning in general, like the whole process, Like I

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 8>don't know, it's been kind of an emotional thing for me,

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:18.839
<v Speaker 8>thinking like.

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 9>Oh shit, like you know, these are the things that

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 9>I want to call my mom about and you know

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 9>she's not you know, she's here, but like you know,

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 9>picking out the dress and all of that stuff is

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 9>I still have a mother figure and she's been with

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 9>me in my life for twenty five, twenty seven, I

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 9>don't even know how long, but it's it's going to

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 9>be different, and she's kind of a great person, but

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 9>she's kind of a control break.

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 8>So it's like any little decision I'm going to have

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 8>to like go through her, and that's kind of my anxiety.

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think use this as an opportunity, Like it's

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be a nice like a little growth spurt

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>for you, but an opportunity for you to set boundaries

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 1>in a very healthy, loving friendly way, like this is

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>my wedding.

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 2>This is actually my choice.

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, I know you're here to help, but I

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>just have to let you know that I'm going to

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>be making the final decisions on the things when they

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>come up. You know, if you have to have a

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>larger kind of prophylactic conversation with her before anything happens, then.

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I would say that if you feel comfortable talking

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 6>to her prior, like in the next two days or

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 6>whatever and just say like, this is something that's causing

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 6>me stress. I really want this to be beautiful for me,

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 6>for my fiancee, for all of us, but it's causing

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 6>me stress that I'm worried about situations where we're not

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 6>going to agree and whatnot, and like what however you

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 6>want to word it. But my own therapist just she

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:42.280
<v Speaker 6>always says we honor those we love by being truthful,

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 6>and they're right, she's been in your life for so long,

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 6>Like you're going to honor your own relationship by telling

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 6>her upfront. Like we're getting into this and I am

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.800
<v Speaker 6>already stressed, and I want this to be an experience

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:58.320
<v Speaker 6>I look back on lovingly and not regretfully totally.

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 8>I think for me, I need to come to terms

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 8>with like I can't make everyone happy. I mean, I've

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 8>got my stepmother and then I have like my mother

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 8>in law, and those two are two different, totally different people,

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.760
<v Speaker 8>and you know, and then myself, and you know, it's

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 9>It all sounds very stressful.

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 7>I don't know it.

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>But you can also just move forward in this and

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 1>reframe it in your mind, like this is going to

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>be one of the best experiences of my life and

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to actually go forward with this with confidence

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<v Speaker 1>and security in my decision making. And anyone who wants

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to join the party is fine, but you don't need

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>any friction, you know what I mean. And if there

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 1>is friction, then that person's not really gonna be welcome

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to make all these decisions or join you in making

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>these decisions. And it's like you're moving into an adult

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>part of your life. Getting married is a huge decision,

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>and then going through with it is another huge decision.

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 1>And so it's a perfect opportunity for you to kind

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>of like thrust yourself into like a more mature version

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:58.839
<v Speaker 1>of yourself that does have boundaries and that does have

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>parameters and people need to meet your needs instead of

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 1>you always having to please theirs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you, so get after it and have a

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 2>great wedding.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have faith in you. I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be awesome.

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<v Speaker 9>I appreciate that. Yeah, thanks so much, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, take care pliny bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So we'll take a break and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>come back with mikaelas Shiffrin, and we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, all right. Our second caller today is Lauren. She says,

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking for some relationship advice. I'm a thirty nine

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 3>year old woman who spent ten years with the wrong guy.

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.359
<v Speaker 3>Most of that time was good until it wasn't. About

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 3>a month into my new single life, I met my

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 3>current boyfriend and we've been dating about a year and

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<v Speaker 3>a half. I absolutely was not planning on getting into

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 3>a relationship at that time, but what can I say.

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.320
<v Speaker 3>We had a lot of chemistry and things just kept progressing.

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<v Speaker 3>A little about me, since I think it's relevant. I'm

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 3>a kind of private person and I'm not overly affectionate either.

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 3>My mom passed when I was nine, and as I'm

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 3>sure you can imagine, we did not grow up being

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 3>cuddled by my boomer dad, and there really was never

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:03.800
<v Speaker 3>that safe space to be emotional, and I was pushed

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 3>into independence early in life. My dad did his absolute best,

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 3>but I don't think he knew how to handle my

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 3>mom's death and his own feelings, let alone the feelings

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 3>of three young kids. So now being soft or overly

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 3>loving is really foreign to me. It's not that I'm

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 3>not a loving, nurturing person, it's just within intimate relationships.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's where I love your advice.

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<v Speaker 3>There are certain things about my current boyfriend that literally

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 3>give me the biggest ick.

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.399
<v Speaker 4>Things like his medical anxiety.

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 3>He'll get heartburn and think he's having a heart attack,

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 3>or when he acts super goofy in public, or things

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.720
<v Speaker 3>that are small and trivial, like the shoes he wears.

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.359
<v Speaker 4>It's almost like I look at him being like.

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<v Speaker 3>A big dorky baby, and I'm frankly the complete opposite,

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 3>tough as nails, tattooed, and.

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:45.239
<v Speaker 4>I ride motorcycles.

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm living my best life right now and almost nothing

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.439
<v Speaker 3>can bring me down, whereas he experiences more emotional ups

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:53.320
<v Speaker 3>and downs. This man is the most loving, caring, supportive,

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:56.399
<v Speaker 3>intelligent and handsome person I've ever dated. I've never been

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 3>treated so well, So why can't I loosen up and

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<v Speaker 3>look past the more trip?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>That is so funny? Do you follow?

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you have you ever seen that page, Mikhaela the

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Ick No, but.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to wait his boyfriend.

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.439
<v Speaker 2>It's the Boyfriend X and there's a couple of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, Hi, how are you Lauren? Hi? Lauren?

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I was just talking about this Instagram page called like

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:19.839
<v Speaker 1>the Ick Factor or the Boyfriend X. There's a few

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of them, and they basically it's like new Ick Unlocked.

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.439
<v Speaker 1>And then they show a guy stepping on a step

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:26.760
<v Speaker 1>stool and they'll.

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Be like, don't step on step stools.

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.560
<v Speaker 1>And then they'll be like me, They're like a guy

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.720
<v Speaker 1>hailing a taxi and they're like, I liked my boyfriend

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>until I saw him hailing a taxi.

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 2>They're like, don't hail taxis. And then it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes all the way and they just keept adding

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>X to the list and it goes basically down to

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have feet, don't walk, don't bends over. I mean,

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 1>it's so true. Listen, I know what you're talking about.

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I get picked out by we all do. We're women,

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and men are disgusting. They can be so gross. You

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 1>have got to take all of the positive things that

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you said about him and put that front and center

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>in your mind. It's almost like playing a trick on yourself.

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 1>If a guy was like a hypochondriac too and thought

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>they were having a heart attack and every time they

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 1>had heartburn, That's exactly how I would feel, exactly what

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you're describing.

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 2>But you have to let the good outweigh the bad,

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 2>which it clearly does.

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise you wouldn't be with him and you wouldn't be

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 1>having these feelings. Not everybody is going to fit into

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>every compartment that we want them to fit, And I

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:32.240
<v Speaker 1>have to have had to learn this lesson multiple times

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in my life, but I speak from experience. You have

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 1>to turn those negatives into a cute little thing, like

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:41.839
<v Speaker 1>you have to go, oh, isn't that sweet that he's like?

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, like you kind of have to you have

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>to like play a trick on your mind. If the

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>good things do outweigh the bad, which it sounds like

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>they do, do they?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, absolutely?

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 7>I think like part of me thinks that this is

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<v Speaker 7>probably the healthiest relationship I've ever really been in. So

0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 7>like I have all this time to sit in focus

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 7>on like the really trivial type of ick things that

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 7>because I don't have any like other toxic thing to

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 7>focus on, So it's just like forefront for me, and

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 7>it's like, oh my god, look at the shoes he's wearing,

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 7>you know, like i'd so I do. Over the past

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:21.799
<v Speaker 7>couple of weeks especially, been trying really hard to kind

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 7>of like, yeah, cutify some of his things, we'll call it,

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 7>you know, trying to be like, all right, well, he

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 7>has all the things that you knew you were looking

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 7>for in a relationship, like the non negotiables, but he

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 7>has these other things that slightly throw you off sometimes,

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 7>so you know, are.

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<v Speaker 5>They really that bad? And to me they're not. I

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 5>just you know, want to make sure.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the biggest one is the one with anxiety,

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 7>because it's something that's hard for me to understand. But

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<v Speaker 7>that's something that I have to work on on my

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 7>own because I need to be more understanding of what

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 7>he's going through in his mindset when that when his

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 7>anxieties do flare up and he's working on it too.

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:02.240
<v Speaker 7>So so you know the fact that he's even wanting

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 7>to work on it is is sexy.

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 5>That's hot.

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's hot any guy that wants to work on anything.

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 1>And also the shoes, like those are things you can

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 1>weigh in on and fix in a loving way.

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you can say it.

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, of course you did. Anxiety is a

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>little trigger. You can't be like, don't have anxiety, even.

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Though that's an ick. You can't say stop it.

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 1>But yes, you have to educate yourself more about what

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 1>anxiety means. And actually this is a huge opportunity for

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you to grow as a partner and as his lover

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>or like you want to be there for him in

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that way. So he has anxiety, he can't control that,

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you know that on an you know, intellectual level, and

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 1>like you'll get there. Like he's got all these other

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 1>things and you have to stay focused on his positive stuff.

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:46.760
<v Speaker 1>No one is going to deliver to us one hundred

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>percent of what we want. It's just impossible to expect that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think someone said to me. I think it

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:53.759
<v Speaker 7>was my hairstylist who said to me, She's like, you know,

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 7>you really have to like pick your ick, right, And

0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:00.040
<v Speaker 7>that kind of just such a simple way to say it,

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:03.160
<v Speaker 7>like really resonated with me because you know, I've dated

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:04.759
<v Speaker 7>a ton of other guys I was on a very

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 7>long term relationship, and all of them had way worse

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 7>issues than my current boyfriend now, and like the icks

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 7>that he has are so, like I said, trivial and

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 7>kind of silly. So it's like I need to be

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 7>like be more accepting of that instead of thinking like

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 7>it's a compatibility thing, because we have really great chemistry.

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 7>We love being together, you know, just sometimes I just cringe.

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and also flip your response to it, like

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:33.319
<v Speaker 1>when he is freaking out or he is having anxiety,

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:37.839
<v Speaker 1>be really sweet, receptive and fake your reaction to it

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:40.879
<v Speaker 1>to see if that changes the exchange between the two

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>of you and if it exchanges his behavior. Because if

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 1>you're telling, like if you're giving the vibe like, oh,

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that's discussing, sometimes it becomes even louder. So like, try

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and experiment with how you react to him in the

0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 1>moments where you are icked out and see, because you know,

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the best way to change someone else is by changing yourself.

0:49:57.600 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 2>That's always true.

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, and I think that'll lead me to some

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 7>personal growth too, because of the fact that I do

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 7>have that like very closed off side of me where

0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 7>I'm not very outwardly affectionate or like loving, I think

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 7>that maybe that'll help me go like grow in that

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 7>direction too. We're trying to flip it and say, Okay,

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 7>you know, be more nurturing towards it, more accepting towards it,

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 7>and maybe that'll make me a more nurturing person in

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:22.720
<v Speaker 7>the long.

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<v Speaker 2>Run, I think.

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<v Speaker 6>So, has he given you any thoughts about what he

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:28.799
<v Speaker 6>would hope to have for you, like what support he

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 6>would need from you?

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:30.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So he has told me over the past like

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 7>year and a half that we have been together, that

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 7>I've that I do really help him, like calm down

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:40.799
<v Speaker 7>when he is having anxiety, like when he's spiraling off

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 7>the edge, because I'm just such a I don't know,

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 7>sometimes I feel like I have no feelings, but you know,

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:47.839
<v Speaker 7>so he has told me that, and he has told

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 7>me in times where I haven't been as good with

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 7>reacting that like all he wants from me is to

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 7>just say like hey, like check in and say like, hey,

0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:58.400
<v Speaker 7>are you doing okay?

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 5>Like is there anything I can do for you? Which

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 5>I have also tried.

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.719
<v Speaker 7>To, you know, take into my own brain and make

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 7>sure that like I am being cognizant of it. But yeah,

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 7>he has said some things, not too much, but some things.

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 6>Because it sounds like a part of what of part

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:16.319
<v Speaker 6>of the reason he is attracted to you as well,

0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:20.359
<v Speaker 6>is because of your toughness. Actually, yeah, and so there's

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:23.279
<v Speaker 6>like a little bit of this, like potentially that that

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:25.080
<v Speaker 6>might be a little bit of a key to unlock

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 6>how you guys can work through some of those things together.

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 6>If that's the biggest ick, then figuring out like your

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:33.959
<v Speaker 6>common way to work through it together where you're sort

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 6>of meeting halfway and like Chelsea said, like you can't

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 6>just get rid of anxiety. It's something that you work

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:42.399
<v Speaker 6>through potentially for a lifetime. But he might be looking

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 6>for you to be like, hey, man, like what do

0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 6>you need? Are you doing okay? But like not necessarily

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 6>be like oh.

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 5>My god, come here, like let me like kiss your teek. Yeah,

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 5>Like I can't.

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 9>I can't.

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 5>I can't coddle. I can't coddle anyone.

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 6>You're not gonna be like I am not able to,

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:00.799
<v Speaker 6>like you'll do a brain book like oh my god,

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:02.880
<v Speaker 6>like let's just whatever.

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.960
<v Speaker 5>Just But that doesn't seem like he's looking for that

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:06.719
<v Speaker 5>from you.

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.320
<v Speaker 7>So I think you're right, he's looking for a little

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 7>bit I'm not gonna call it coddling, but like a

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.279
<v Speaker 7>little bit of handholding, a little bit more of me

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 7>being I don't know, nurturing or I don't know what

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 7>to even call it, but you know, just or understanding. Yes,

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:24.839
<v Speaker 7>like I need to I need to soften up. He

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<v Speaker 7>needs to toughen up, and we can work on that together.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's probably one of the reasons that you're attracted

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<v Speaker 3>to each other is that you are very in touch

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<v Speaker 3>with your feminine side but also your masculine side. And

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<v Speaker 3>it sounds like he's got a little bit more of

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<v Speaker 3>this emotional softness and stuff that we consider, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a feminine energy.

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<v Speaker 4>And like maybe that's one of the reasons why you

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<v Speaker 4>two work well together.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm with you. I understand what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on the cuntsiness and the bitchiness. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a lot of right right, but I've adjusted.

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<v Speaker 2>I have made a lot of adjustments.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's an ick that you can't live with, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, and then you have to state that. But

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<v Speaker 1>if it's an ick that's workable, and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really controllable, which anxiety is not, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>blame anyone for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can soften up and do.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit work harder on your behalf and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just fix all the other shit that's bothering

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<v Speaker 1>you about him that's materialistic, like his shoes. Always fix

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<v Speaker 1>their shoes. There's nothing wrong with that. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>shame in that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. No, that was one of the first things that

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<v Speaker 5>we did.

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<v Speaker 1>They need help with their clothing, all of it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's almost like they are swimming without arms. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to like look at them like that. So anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you called in. I'm glad I see someone

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<v Speaker 1>very like minded and challenge yourself level up, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. You have to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>softer for this relationship. It sounds like the healthiest relationship

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<v Speaker 1>you've been in. You said that yourself, so rise to

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<v Speaker 1>the occasion.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I will do definitely. I appreciate the.

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<v Speaker 1>Advice, No problem, take care, Thanks all right, Thanks bye bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Michaela. You know what makes me so happy, Michaela.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I see fixtures of you on vacation, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so happy making for me to see you taking some

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<v Speaker 1>time to yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think you have a vacation coming up soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're pretty you're getting too ready to hit

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<v Speaker 1>it pretty hard, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Getting ready to go.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this season starts in October, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 6>Chili in two days for on snow training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, it's it's building.

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<v Speaker 6>I just walked away from the Olympics and everybody was like,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going, like I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, my god, I'm not quite.

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<v Speaker 5>We're getting started. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can't wait to see everything that you do

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<v Speaker 1>this season.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see you excel.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for your fiance to get back on

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<v Speaker 1>his feed and fully fully recover. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>he will because of his strength and fortitude and because

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<v Speaker 1>he's got you by his side. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>two of you together are an unbeatable couple. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just so happy for everything that's happened in your life

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't wait to see you celebrate more of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. I really appreciate that. Okay, one more.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the first time that you commented on one

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<v Speaker 6>of my Instagram posts, I was like, oh my god,

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 6>it's Chelsea Handler And also like, wait, do you think

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 6>she's I think I asked my pr Well, I was like,

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:14.359
<v Speaker 6>is she joking because she thinks her because I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>she's got She's like, you've got the like edgy, like sarcastic,

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<v Speaker 6>like super job, you have all the different senses of humor.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was like, holy shit, is she making fun

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<v Speaker 6>of me or she's serious? And so it's just really

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:30.360
<v Speaker 6>really cool to have this conversation and like connect and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love seeing you skiing and oh yeah it

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<v Speaker 1>makes me happy. Well hopefully we'll get to ski one

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<v Speaker 1>day together. That would be a real highlight. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the idea of me trolling athletes though.

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<v Speaker 2>Just going around there.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, good, yes, this could be a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, Well, we won't keep you any longer, MICHAELA,

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<v Speaker 1>have a great have the greatest day.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me be too, Thanks, Bye bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So upcoming shows that I have you guys, I

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<v Speaker 1>will be all over. I'm Maine, Charlotte, North Carolina, Charleston,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. I'm coming to Texas. I'm coming to Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Louis and Kansas City, and then I will be in

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas performing at the Chelsea Theater inside the Cosmopolitan Hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>My first three dates in Vegas are September first, Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Day weekend, and then November two and November thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming to.

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn, New York, at the King's Theater on November eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>and i have tickets on sale throughout the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the year in December, so if you're in a city

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<v Speaker 1>like Philadelphia or Bethlehem, or San Diego or New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>or Omaha, check Chelseahandler dot com for tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if you'd.

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