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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello Catherine.

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Speaker 2: Hi Chelsea, Hi, Hi, you.

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Speaker 3: Are fresh off your Vegas residency.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: It was so ridiculous. We kicked it off. We kicked

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Speaker 1: off my Vegas residency. It was fucking epic. I had

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Speaker 1: the thunder from down Under guys carry me out on stage.

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Speaker 1: They were like, should we do this? I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: don't see why not. And then I had Natasha Lazeiro

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Speaker 1: open for me.

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Speaker 4: Oh fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't gotten to perform with her in like twenty years,

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Speaker 1: so that was fucking so much fun.

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Speaker 2: I had a bunch of friends come.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we all went gambling after, and even though

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Speaker 1: I left with less money than I started with, I

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Speaker 1: was supporting my whole table with their gambling because once

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Speaker 1: everyone ran out of money, I started handing out chips,

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Speaker 1: you know how I.

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Speaker 2: Like to do that.

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Speaker 1: Of course, So I consider it to be a huge

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Speaker 1: win anyway, because I still left with money and I

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Speaker 1: didn't blow it all, and I'm just so excited about

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Speaker 1: this residency. We flew in at like four o'clock. I

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Speaker 1: went down to the bar, made some surprise drinks for

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Speaker 1: some customers because they have a Chelsea drink there now

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Speaker 1: in my honor excellent Chelsea at the cons of my

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Speaker 1: hotel and then yeah, I can't. I'm just it was

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Speaker 1: really fun and it's it was huge. I was like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: this is a big deal. So yeah, my next dates

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Speaker 1: are November second and November thirtieth, and then all throughout

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Speaker 1: the year. So check my schedule. Mofos and this week

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Speaker 1: and I'm coming to Foxwood's in Connecticut and Portland, Maine.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be in performing in Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: do you have somebody Importland, Maine.

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Speaker 3: We went to a gorgeous restaurant called Eventide, and we

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Speaker 3: started chatting with the bartender and her name was also

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Speaker 3: Catherine with a seat and you know, she says, what

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Speaker 3: do you do? And we started talking about podcasts and

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Speaker 3: all those of the podcast on she goes, oh, Chelsea

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Speaker 3: Hndler's been in here.

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Speaker 4: So I was like, great, that's perfect.

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Speaker 3: So you've got to go back to Eventide and say

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Speaker 3: hi to Catherine if you're there.

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Speaker 2: Is that in Portland?

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Speaker 4: Yes, in Portland, Maine.

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Speaker 2: Is there a like a bar in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the restaurant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a big bar in the middle of

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Speaker 3: the restaurant, part oyster bar, part bar bar.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's cute. That's cute.

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Speaker 1: I'm on an oyster kick lately, so I'm really going

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Speaker 1: after it. Doug did not make it to Vegas. He

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Speaker 1: came to my show on Friday night, and he's such

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Speaker 1: a dream boat.

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Speaker 2: I mean he is so affectionate with men too.

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Speaker 4: Now, oh good, Yeah, he.

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Speaker 1: Is really just he's getting better and better and better.

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Speaker 1: It's like I want to do like an ambastardorship for chows.

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Speaker 3: Got a rebrand?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to rebrand chows.

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Speaker 4: They really are sweet dogs.

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Speaker 3: I think they get a bad rap because they were

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Speaker 3: like bread for fighting, but like they're really really mushy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they're originally from China, so whatever that means.

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Speaker 3: Just like pugs, we both have Chinese dogs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean who knew?

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Speaker 5: Who knew?

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Speaker 3: Well, this week we have an awesome gas.

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Speaker 1: I'm just so happy to have this person on my podcast.

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Speaker 1: For those of you who do not follow skiing, she

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Speaker 1: is the winningest skier of all time, and yes that

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Speaker 1: Mikhayla Schiffrin and I get the pleasure of speaking with

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Speaker 1: her today. Please welcome Mikayla Schiffrin. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeay, yay.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to introduce our very special guest today

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Speaker 1: because it's very hard to pin this woman down. She's very,

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Speaker 1: very fucking busy. Okay, she is. She's not gonna like

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Speaker 1: this intro. She's gonna get shy, but I don't care.

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Speaker 2: She is the.

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Speaker 1: Winningest alpine ski racer of all time. Or you could

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Speaker 1: also refer to her as the greatest alpine ski racer

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Speaker 1: a two time Olympic champion and a seven time World

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Speaker 1: woman is fucking phenomenal. And her name is Mikayla Shiffrid. Welcome, Mikaela.

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Speaker 5: I'm dying.

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Speaker 2: I know, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I know you're shy and that you're low key, and

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Speaker 5: I expected nothing less, No, thank you. That was amazing.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, how are you.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm so happy to see your face. This is Catherine,

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Speaker 1: my producer. Hi, welcome to Dear Chelsea.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: I know, I'm so happy I get to see you

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Speaker 2: face to face. Finally.

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Speaker 1: We've DMed before and you've talked a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 1: little short messages, but we've never really gotten a chance

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Speaker 1: you just came back from Paris and you got to

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Speaker 6: You're totally right, it was. I was kind of like,

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Speaker 6: m this spectating thing is pretty nice. It was amazing.

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Speaker 6: I mean, those athletes, they're insane, and even the athlete

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Speaker 6: who don't win, the athletes who are maybe expected to

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Speaker 6: Like when we're there and I'm racing and I'm feeling

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Speaker 6: and I'm looking back at it, I'm like, holy shit, no,

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Speaker 6: Like everybody here is really good and this is like

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Speaker 5: It was super inspirational, so it was good time.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was also very poignant as a woman.

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Speaker 1: The whole conversation around mental health and what happened with

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Speaker 1: Simone Biles just really kind of kicked this Olympics off

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Speaker 1: all of the black female athletes that got gold medals, ye,

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Speaker 6: I think that the whole experience made me feel really grateful,

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Speaker 6: So I was like, shit. She tweeted something about, like

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Speaker 6: I walk away from those conversations like why am I

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Speaker 6: after this. But the fact is you're like I didn't

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, on behalf of female athletes, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think our greatest source of strength is time.

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Speaker 6: It's just being able to give yourself the grace of

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Speaker 6: But there were so many points during that season where

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Speaker 6: At a ski race in Austria and I was fifth

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you watch her coming down the mountain,

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Speaker 6: what you do is more dangerous, and I was like.

439
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Speaker 5: Whoa well, whoa wa.

440
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 6: They have a car, like a very very protective, secure

441
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 6: car like fire Through. It's not that it's not dangerous,

442
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 6: it's just we're doing this with literally razor blades and

443
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 6: like you've got like a light fence in front of

444
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 6: the pile of trees, Like we're not protected at all.

445
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 5: I don't mistake this.

446
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: What we do is really and if one thing goes wrong,

447
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: that's a massive injury. Yeah, it's very rare that they

448
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: wipe out and like they haven't heard anything.

449
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it does happen.

450
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 6: If you crash, you pretty much get hurt and then

451
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 6: it's just a matter of how hurt you get. But yeah,

452
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 6: so I flew to the hospital to meet him. He

453
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 6: like had the emergency evac went to the hospital in

454
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Speaker 6: Switzerland and I went to meet him.

455
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Speaker 5: And I was in Austria.

456
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 6: So we like my and my family, my brother and

457
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 6: his and my sister in law, they had just arrived.

458
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 6: My mom, she travels with me as my coach. They

459
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 6: all just like, well, we're just coming with you and

460
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 6: we're just gonna help if we can help, or we'll

461
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 6: just keep you company, or we'll like logistically whatever whatever

462
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 6: you need. So we got there and I was there

463
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 6: when Alex woke up from his surgery and the poor

464
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Speaker 6: I mean, I've never experienced a situation like this, like ye,

465
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 6: this his accident was on a different level from most

466
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 6: crashes in skiing because the severity of his shoulder and

467
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 6: the severity of his leg. His shoulder was causing him

468
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 6: an insane amount of pain, but they weren't addressing that

469
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,959
Speaker 6: because they had to tournique his leg and get him

470
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Speaker 6: to the hospital.

471
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Speaker 5: So he had two.

472
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Speaker 6: Hours where his shoulder was out of completely out of place,

473
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Speaker 6: and he was just like ten out of ten pain.

474
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Speaker 6: He was like pat He kept passing out from the

475
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 6: pain and then wake up in a panic, and he

476
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 6: had seen his own leg and he didn't care about it.

477
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 6: He was like, please fix my shoulder, and they're like, no,

478
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 6: just we'll get to it. And this the whole story

479
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 6: is like horrific. As he's sitting on the mountain and

480
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 6: then he gets taken away by the helicopter and he's

481
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 6: dangling by the rope and then the sled starts spinning

482
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 6: out of control and that made him sick.

483
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 5: And then like they were giving.

484
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 6: Him, you know, morphine, which is one of the things

485
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 6: that they give you immediately and that I don't know

486
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 6: if he's allergic to it or what, but he got

487
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 6: really sick from it, which is a common response. So

488
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 6: when he woke up in the hospital, he was asking

489
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 6: about his split times from the race, and I'm just

490
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 6: sitting there like, oh my god. First of all, your

491
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 6: leg is your leg's.

492
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 5: Gonna be okay.

493
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 6: You didn't lose your leg, like you can look down,

494
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 6: you can look down at your feet.

495
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 5: You didn't lose your.

496
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: Leg, And were you the first person who told him that? Yeah,

497
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: oh my god.

498
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 6: And he was like oh, and he's like, I fucked

499
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 6: up my face and like, your face is really surprisingly

500
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 6: not that bad, Like you've got some scratches, but those

501
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 6: are also going to heal. It was just sad because

502
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 6: the last time that I had been in a hospital

503
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 6: in a situation where somebody hooked up to that many

504
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 6: wires was when my dad died. And I was like, okay,

505
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 6: just please don't die, you know. And at that point

506
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 6: he was stable, but it was still he wasn't really

507
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 6: in the clear for the next two weeks because a

508
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 6: lot of like post traumatic head stuff can come up.

509
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 6: And he had you know, full body scan and we

510
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 6: were really checking every part of his body to make

511
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Speaker 6: sure there were no other internal injuries or.

512
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 5: Anything like that.

513
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 6: But it was just a really really intense first twenty

514
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 6: four hours and then two weeks and then.

515
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 5: It's still going right.

516
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: But being there for him in that way, especially when

517
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: you're saying that about your dad, you're right, It's funny

518
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: the way that life works, you know, where these situations

519
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: present yourselves and you're like, oh, okay, this I don't have.

520
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: Now you have a different experience with that hospital. You

521
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: have a different experience with somebody in that state in

522
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: that hospital that is surviving, and that that experience was

523
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: given to you, even though it's not something you would

524
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: ever think to ask for.

525
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 6: Right It's like, in the immediate time, you like, why

526
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 6: would this happen to someone I love? But then in

527
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 6: the end it's like I kind of see it as

528
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 6: a gift because he has gotten through it better than

529
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 6: we could ever imagine, and he's still going through it.

530
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 6: But it's also like a lesson in mentality about how

531
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 6: these really shitty things happened to people, and like he

532
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 6: he has gone through so much pain and he finds

533
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 6: a way to s smile and say thank you and

534
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 6: look forward to things, and you're just like, okay, it's

535
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 6: just it's all gonna it's gonna be okay. Like even

536
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 6: if it's not okay, it's gonna be okay. When you

537
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 6: have that kind of a mindset, time is the biggest

538
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 6: gift that we have. And if you can just somehow

539
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 6: get through the hardest moments, then you just always you

540
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 6: kind of always come out on the other side like

541
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 6: I'm still somehow okay, And in that moment, I'm like

542
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 6: I had a race the next two two days later,

543
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 6: I think, or like within the next two days, and

544
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 6: I was like, if I don't make it back for

545
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 6: that race, I really don't care.

546
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 5: It's just the perspective.

547
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 6: Comes in and you're like, as much as ski racing

548
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 6: is in the forefront for me, like I really don't care.

549
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 6: I ended up making back it back for that race,

550
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 6: and then I won the race. And it was only

551
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 6: because like, if I'm going to leave him to go

552
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 6: to a ski race, then I better fucking win the

553
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 6: ski race. I'm not like, there's no other option here.

554
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 6: And it was it was one of those weird there's

555
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 6: like a demon took over my body because I had

556
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 6: no right to I had slept on the floor of

557
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 6: the hospital. It's like, I have no right to be

558
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 6: winning this race. I really probably shouldn't even be doing it,

559
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 6: but I'm here, so I will.

560
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 5: I will win.

561
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: But that's your superpower. That's your superpower.

562
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: That's why you're such a fucking badass, because you do

563
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: fucking win over and over and over again in dark moments,

564
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: and I know you've had, and I like, how do

565
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: you feel about Do you feel like your dad's with

566
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: you when you ski race?

567
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 6: No? I mean this is sort of a this speaking

568
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 6: and dark. You know, Everybody's like, oh, I can feel

569
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 6: my life. I can feel my loved ones. I can

570
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 6: feel the people I've lost, Like sometimes when a certain

571
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 6: wind blows, I feel like they're with me, or I

572
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 6: get these moments and a like a quiet I get

573
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 6: these feelings in a quiet moment, They're there, and like,

574
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 6: I have not had that kind of experience, not not

575
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 6: in the way people explain it, and I feel like

576
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 6: I keep expecting it and it's still I just I

577
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 6: think about him a lot. I have dreams about him,

578
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 6: like walking through the door, and I look forward to

579
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 6: these dreams so much and I can't control when they happen,

580
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 6: but when they do, I'm just like, please stay asleep

581
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 6: as long as possible, because then when I wake up,

582
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 6: it's like waking up as a nightmare, which is sort

583
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 6: of shitty, but that's how I feel. But when I'm racing,

584
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 6: you need to focus on what you're doing when you're

585
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 6: ski racing, because it's dangerous. Maybe my superpower is like

586
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 6: the hyper focus people are like, can you just be

587
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 6: a little bit more fun?

588
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: What was one of the moments that you've had where

589
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: you were really proud of how you handled yourself.

590
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 6: Right now, what I'm thinking of is in Beijing, So

591
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 6: you know, I went through the whole I went through

592
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 6: the whole line of media and mix zone after every

593
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 6: time I crashed, and it was like you can either

594
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 6: walk by them and put the you know, the blinders

595
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 6: up and ignore them, and it's a line of like

596
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 6: one hundred or more different media outlets, and I was.

597
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 5: Like, no, I'm just just gonna.

598
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 6: Tak And it was right after each race that was

599
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 6: not successful, it was like immediately thereafter, but particularly after

600
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 6: the I think it was the combined race where it

601
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 6: was like, oh, like, you really fucked that up, and

602
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, well, it's just going to talk.

603
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 5: To the people and see what comes up. And it's

604
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 5: not that I'm.

605
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 6: Proud of that, but I'm proud of going through that

606
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 6: and not coming out on the other side totally jaded

607
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 6: and angry at the media for doing their job that

608
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 6: they're supposed to do. That we're very very thankful for

609
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 6: when we win medals and we get put up on

610
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 6: the pedestal and you get sponsorship deals and your marketing

611
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 6: value goes sky high because of the media. They're asking

612
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 6: those questions when you're successful, but when you fail as

613
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 6: an athlete, it's so hard to be like, well, I

614
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 6: just want some privacy now, and you're like, well, that's

615
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 6: not really how this works, because they make me feel

616
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 6: amazing if I won.

617
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 5: So they're literally just doing a job. I guess I'm

618
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 5: proud of that.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great answer. I love that answer. Okay,

620
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: On that note, we're going to take a break and

621
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: we're going to be right with some callers.

622
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 5: Mckalla.

623
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna give out some advice to some strangers. Okay. Oh,

624
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: and we'll be right back.

625
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: And we're back with Mikaela, Schiffrien and Doug just joined

626
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: us on the couch. Hopefully you can see him in

627
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: the video sit down, love her boy.

628
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: It's so hard to see him because oh.

629
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 5: The couch, I know, beautiful. Thank you well.

630
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 4: Our first question comes from Ashley.

631
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Speaker 2: Is that ski racing related?

632
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 5: Actually?

633
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 4: Should we start with that one?

634
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's start with it.

635
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: Let's war Michaela up, don't worry, we went have you

636
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: on the conversation so you don't have to deal with

637
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: giving out too much advice, so don't feel too much fresh.

638
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: This comes from Amanda. She's forty.

639
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: Dear Chelsea, I had surgery on my knee this past June,

640
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: which is the second time I've blown out my ACL

641
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: while skiing to impress but ultimately letting fear make my movements.

642
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: The second surgery included an LCL enhancement to really help

643
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: my forty year old knee hang in there.

644
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: I'm looking for.

645
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: Advice on how to build strengthen my I need this winter,

646
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: as well as possibly wearing a brace in the future.

647
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: At the doctor, I felt pressure to upgrade to a

648
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: fancy ice machine post surgery, and now they're looking to

649
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: fit me for our brace. Do braces actually help or

650
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: is it better to build the strengthen the knee and

651
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: ski with awareness of how the knee is being impacted?

652
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Amanda.

653
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: Oh well that's super interesting. Yeah.

654
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: She was like a little cagey about like are the

655
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: doctors just doing this to make a little extra walk?

656
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, no, it's true.

657
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 6: I mean that is there is a little bit of

658
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 6: that in the medical world, and obviously we're very very

659
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Speaker 6: thankful that they're there to take care of us and

660
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 6: fix us up. But so professional athletes, a lot of

661
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 6: us do ski with braces through knee injuries in order

662
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 6: to get back. It's not that it provides more stability.

663
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 6: Really like it's a brace, and it's also a mental brace.

664
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Speaker 6: It makes you feel like, okay, it's but it can

665
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 6: also become a bit of a crutch. And so we

666
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 6: are sort of told that as soon as you can

667
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 6: get out of the brace, get out of the brace.

668
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 6: Do with ACL reconstructions and surgeries, you need a brace

669
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 6: for a certain period of time. So it's I don't

670
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 6: know if they're giving you one for they're telling you

671
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 6: to buy it for the next years and years and

672
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 6: years of your life.

673
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 5: I would say wait on that.

674
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 6: As long as you have a brace for the short

675
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 6: period of getting through the initial part of this surgery.

676
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 6: But the most important thing is that you build up

677
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 6: the strength. You do the rehab work, you do, the

678
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 6: sort of motor control work, in balance work that is

679
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 6: really necessary for ACL surgeries and repairs, the neuromuscular connection

680
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 6: that is really lacking even after the tendon has healed thoroughly.

681
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 6: So for the next I would say for the next

682
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 6: two years, you really really need to stay on top

683
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 6: of any kind of neuromuscular work, apprope reception, balance training,

684
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 6: and then just your overall strength training, Like ham strings

685
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 6: are really important.

686
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 5: Ham string is strength is important.

687
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 6: Quad strength, building back your quad and your VMO is

688
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 6: really important.

689
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 5: And you can do a.

690
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 6: Lot of that with very basic tools. You don't necessarily

691
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 6: need to have like a huge squat rack or something

692
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 6: you can do. You can do squats and lunges in

693
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 6: your house and that would be sufficient to kind of

694
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 6: build backstrength. Yeah.

695
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: And also like mckel is a professional skier, so like

696
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: you're not.

697
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: This woman doesn't sound like she's racing, like doing any

698
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: downhill Chicana rae. So like she sounds like a casual

699
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: skier like me. And if you're like me, first of

700
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: all everything she obviously the professional said, but on a

701
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: more casual a lay person, Yeah, a layperson, this is

702
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: your hobby.

703
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: Half the people I know ski with knee braces.

704
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: I ski with knee brace half the time I had

705
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: ACL I have meniscus.

706
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: I have all that shit too.

707
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: But the strength training is the most important thing, like

708
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: single leg training, single leg squats, always building up your quads,

709
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: and your hamstrings and your butt, like I didn't build

710
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: my butt.

711
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: Enough up and that I paid for that last season.

712
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: So as long as you were constantly really fit, strong, like,

713
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in good stead when you go.

714
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: And it is more of a mental thing to wear

715
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: a brace. But sometimes that's good.

716
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Speaker 6: Well it is mental, I did say, But you're totally right.

717
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 6: It's just and she definitely like, you definitely need the

718
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 6: brace in the first the first few months, that first

719
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 6: six month period, and then it's just like you said,

720
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Speaker 6: in order to help with stability. It is a mental thing, yes,

721
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 6: but it's like there's a reason they have braces. I

722
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 6: just don't want them to be telling you, like, in

723
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 6: six years, you're gonna need to be skiing with this

724
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 6: knee brace, so you better buy it now, Like that

725
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 6: might not necessarily be true. It depends on your comfort level,

726
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 6: and you're really skiing to have fun and be comfortable.

727
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 6: You're not skiing to win World Cup races, so your

728
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 6: goal is to be comfortable.

729
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: And don't stop trying. Sometimes it in so much pain

730
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: when I ski, but I never give up. Just don't

731
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: give up. You just don't get a shot at Corvo

732
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: or whatever. You need to get through the day and

733
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: get down the mountain. Okay, that's how I look at it.

734
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Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna say courtA zone, but no.

735
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Speaker 1: One of those too. A shot a cortizone is great too,

736
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Speaker 1: I love those.

737
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Speaker 5: Yes.

738
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Speaker 3: Well, our first caller is Laney and she says she

739
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 3: is planning a wedding like you are.

740
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Speaker 4: Mikayla.

741
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: And she says, my boyfriend and I are planning on

742
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 3: getting married, and I wanted to use my grandmother's ring.

743
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: When we asked my dad about it, he was very

744
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: excited about the idea. My Greek name is Agatha after

745
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: my grandmother, and my boyfriend has the same name as

746
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: my grandfather, Nico. We also first met on my grandparents' anniversary,

747
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: so it feels sort of like Kismet to use the ring.

748
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: We had planned to use the ring with my father's blessing,

749
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: and then my stepmother told me that the ring is

750
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: hers and I need to quote get over it. I

751
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: should add that the ring has been sitting in a

752
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: bank for fifteen years, untouched, since my grandmother passed, and

753
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: it hasn't been given to anyone directly in the family.

754
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: My stepmom, who has been in my licence I was six.

755
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: Has always treated me differently compared to my half sisters.

756
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: To paint a picture growing up, I was frequently not

757
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: included on family vacations, and my first car was a

758
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: used Mazda, while my younger sister was gifted a new

759
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: S Class Mercedes. Don't get me wrong, I've had a

760
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: more than fortunate life. College was paid for and I

761
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: have had a roof over my head thanks to the

762
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: financial assistance of my dad. But it's come with its

763
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: share of challenges, not the least of which was losing

764
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: my mom to Alzheimer's three years ago.

765
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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

766
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: I really have learned not to ask for material things

767
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: because I don't want to get my hopes up only

768
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: to be let down. In fact, I fear getting married

769
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: because of that stress. But something about my grandmother's ring

770
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: holds some sentimental value to me. She's my guardian angel,

771
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: and I feel so deeply she would want me to

772
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 3: have it, since I know my stepmom won't budge though.

773
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: We've gone ahead and designed something for him to use

774
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: when the time comes. But I can't stop thinking about

775
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: what other issues can arise with my stepmom as we

776
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: move into wedding planning. How can I navigate this tricky

777
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: relationship and not get cut off from the sentimental things

778
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: and traditions I hold Dear Laney. Oh that's hid Hi Laney, Hi, Lany, Hi, Hi.

779
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: This is our special guest, Mikayla schiffriend today.

780
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 7: Hi.

781
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 2: She's getting married too.

782
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 5: I am so excited for you. Thanks you too. I'm

783
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 5: so excited.

784
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 6: I haven't gotten too deep in my own wedding planning,

785
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 6: but just listening to your story, Oh my god. First

786
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 6: of all, I'm sorry that you seem like you have

787
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 6: an incredible attitude after experiencing some pretty tough things with family,

788
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 6: So I'm sorry about that. I'm really inspired by your

789
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 6: just general mentality and attitude. I think it's incredible that

790
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 6: you've had the strength to say, you know, like picking

791
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 6: which battles you want to fight. I don't know, Chelsea,

792
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 6: like you might have better advice here, but I would say, like,

793
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 6: your wedding is your it's your thing, and that's a

794
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 6: place where I would say you need to stand up

795
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 6: for yourself. Is there something you feel strongly and passionate

796
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 6: about and about your own wedding and your own your

797
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 6: own relationship, your own future. I mean it sounds like

798
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 6: you already gave up the thought of this beautiful ring.

799
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, did you already give that thought up?

800
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 5: I don't know.

801
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 8: I mean I was told that there's not a ring

802
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 8: for me to have. It just thought about, like, oh,

803
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 8: it would be nice. It's so weird because my boyfriend

804
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 8: and I met, we learned it was the day of

805
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 8: my grandparents' anniversary.

806
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 9: It's just like weird, little.

807
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 8: Like happenstances kept happening and it would be like really

808
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 8: nice to have it.

809
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 9: But I was told that there's not a ring. Oop.

810
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 8: Sorry, a landmower, just lawnmower just drove past me. I

811
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 8: was like, a landmow, Yeah, a landmower. She said, get

812
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 8: over it. It's mine, get over it. Maybe I'll get

813
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 8: it when she's dead, yeah, which she'll be fine.

814
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: I like that she thinks she's entitled to your grandmother's ring.

815
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: I know, likelated, what does that have to do with it?

816
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 9: But that's okay.

817
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 8: You know, it is one of those things where you know,

818
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 8: I always feel like my grandparents and my family's has

819
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 8: passed on are always there with me.

820
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 9: They, for whatever reason, are protecting me over this.

821
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 8: I don't need to know the reason why I can't

822
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 8: or will not have it, and I've been given other

823
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 8: you know, I have her earrings from the wedding, from

824
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 8: her wedding, I have little pieces.

825
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 9: Of her that will always be there.

826
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 8: But I think that right now it's the if this

827
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 8: is the stress over a over a ring, I can't

828
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 8: even imagine the stress over the actual wedding.

829
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 6: So okay, one thing about the ring. After my dad

830
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 6: passed away, my brother initially we just let him have

831
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 6: my dad's ring.

832
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: It looks like this, this is the one beautiful.

833
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 6: And I was so distraught that my brother actually gave

834
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 6: it to me, and I think it was sort of temporary,

835
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 6: but he just said, like keep it. And then two

836
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 6: years ago during the race season, I lost it. And

837
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 6: my initial reaction that was it was very painful for

838
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 6: a few days, especially maybe a few weeks, but I

839
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 6: ended up I ended up having one made that remind

840
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 6: and it's really like this, Like you said, it's a

841
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 6: sentimental value and it doesn't have to look exactly like

842
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 6: the ring.

843
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 5: But you what I would say is you've.

844
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 6: Created something that's your own with her in mind, in

845
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 6: honor of her, and because of that, the sentimental value

846
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 6: is there.

847
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 5: So I would say that it's really really beautiful.

848
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 6: And then the second thought is just stand up for

849
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 6: yourself in the moments about like planning your wedding, leading

850
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 6: up to it and during it where you feel like, no,

851
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 6: this is not what I want and this day is

852
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 6: for me, and that's just you have to stand your

853
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 6: ground there.

854
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 5: And I hope that there are not too many things

855
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 5: that you disagree on, like very aggressively.

856
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 9: But I'm pretty go with the flow to be yes.

857
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 8: You know, my boyfriend's the one who wants the big wedding,

858
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 8: and I'm like, he's the princess and I'm trying to

859
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 8: give him his princess dream.

860
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 4: Oh Nico.

861
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 8: So even coming to peace with that part, it's more like, Okay,

862
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 8: I just talked to my psychic today, my medium over

863
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 8: over career stuff, not even about this, and she's like,

864
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 8: you're gonna have the big fact Greek wedding. Just let

865
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 8: it go, move on, Just don't be breadzilla.

866
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 5: You are an incredible human.

867
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get great attitude, totally great attitude, and that's

868
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 1: always going to bring goodness.

869
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: You know your way.

870
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: And if there is a moment that comes up with

871
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: your stepmother, how involved is she in your wedding, not very.

872
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 9: You know, I'm assuming she's going to be very involved.

873
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 8: My mom passed three years ago, and so you know,

874
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 8: wedding planning in general, like the whole process, Like I

875
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 8: don't know, it's been kind of an emotional thing for me,

876
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 8: thinking like.

877
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 9: Oh shit, like you know, these are the things that

878
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 9: I want to call my mom about and you know

879
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 9: she's not you know, she's here, but like you know,

880
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 9: picking out the dress and all of that stuff is

881
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 9: I still have a mother figure and she's been with

882
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 9: me in my life for twenty five, twenty seven, I

883
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 9: don't even know how long, but it's it's going to

884
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 9: be different, and she's kind of a great person, but

885
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 9: she's kind of a control break.

886
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 8: So it's like any little decision I'm going to have

887
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 8: to like go through her, and that's kind of my anxiety.

888
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think use this as an opportunity, Like it's

889
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: going to be a nice like a little growth spurt

890
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: for you, but an opportunity for you to set boundaries

891
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: in a very healthy, loving friendly way, like this is

892
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: my wedding.

893
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: This is actually my choice.

894
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: You know, I know you're here to help, but I

895
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: just have to let you know that I'm going to

896
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: be making the final decisions on the things when they

897
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: come up. You know, if you have to have a

898
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: larger kind of prophylactic conversation with her before anything happens, then.

899
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say that if you feel comfortable talking

900
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 6: to her prior, like in the next two days or

901
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 6: whatever and just say like, this is something that's causing

902
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 6: me stress. I really want this to be beautiful for me,

903
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 6: for my fiancee, for all of us, but it's causing

904
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 6: me stress that I'm worried about situations where we're not

905
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 6: going to agree and whatnot, and like what however you

906
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 6: want to word it. But my own therapist just she

907
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 6: always says we honor those we love by being truthful,

908
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 6: and they're right, she's been in your life for so long,

909
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 6: Like you're going to honor your own relationship by telling

910
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 6: her upfront. Like we're getting into this and I am

911
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 6: already stressed, and I want this to be an experience

912
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 6: I look back on lovingly and not regretfully totally.

913
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 8: I think for me, I need to come to terms

914
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 8: with like I can't make everyone happy. I mean, I've

915
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 8: got my stepmother and then I have like my mother

916
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 8: in law, and those two are two different, totally different people,

917
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 8: and you know, and then myself, and you know, it's

918
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 8: I don't know.

919
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 9: It all sounds very stressful.

920
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 7: I don't know it.

921
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: But you can also just move forward in this and

922
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: reframe it in your mind, like this is going to

923
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: be one of the best experiences of my life and

924
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to actually go forward with this with confidence

925
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: and security in my decision making. And anyone who wants

926
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: to join the party is fine, but you don't need

927
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: any friction, you know what I mean. And if there

928
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: is friction, then that person's not really gonna be welcome

929
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: to make all these decisions or join you in making

930
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: these decisions. And it's like you're moving into an adult

931
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: part of your life. Getting married is a huge decision,

932
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: and then going through with it is another huge decision.

933
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: And so it's a perfect opportunity for you to kind

934
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: of like thrust yourself into like a more mature version

935
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: of yourself that does have boundaries and that does have

936
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: parameters and people need to meet your needs instead of

937
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: you always having to please theirs.

938
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, so get after it and have a

939
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: great wedding.

940
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 9: Thank you so much.

941
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have faith in you. I think it's gonna

942
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: be awesome.

943
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 9: I appreciate that. Yeah, thanks so much, guys.

944
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: Okay, take care pliny bye.

945
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So we'll take a break and we're going to

946
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: come back with mikaelas Shiffrin, and we're.

947
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: Back, all right. Our second caller today is Lauren. She says,

948
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 3: I'm looking for some relationship advice. I'm a thirty nine

949
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: year old woman who spent ten years with the wrong guy.

950
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 3: Most of that time was good until it wasn't. About

951
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: a month into my new single life, I met my

952
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: current boyfriend and we've been dating about a year and

953
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: a half. I absolutely was not planning on getting into

954
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: a relationship at that time, but what can I say.

955
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: We had a lot of chemistry and things just kept progressing.

956
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: A little about me, since I think it's relevant. I'm

957
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: a kind of private person and I'm not overly affectionate either.

958
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: My mom passed when I was nine, and as I'm

959
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: sure you can imagine, we did not grow up being

960
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: cuddled by my boomer dad, and there really was never

961
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: that safe space to be emotional, and I was pushed

962
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: into independence early in life. My dad did his absolute best,

963
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: but I don't think he knew how to handle my

964
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: mom's death and his own feelings, let alone the feelings

965
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: of three young kids. So now being soft or overly

966
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: loving is really foreign to me. It's not that I'm

967
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: not a loving, nurturing person, it's just within intimate relationships.

968
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: So here's where I love your advice.

969
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: There are certain things about my current boyfriend that literally

970
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: give me the biggest ick.

971
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 4: Things like his medical anxiety.

972
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: He'll get heartburn and think he's having a heart attack,

973
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: or when he acts super goofy in public, or things

974
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 3: that are small and trivial, like the shoes he wears.

975
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: It's almost like I look at him being like.

976
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 3: A big dorky baby, and I'm frankly the complete opposite,

977
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: tough as nails, tattooed, and.

978
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 4: I ride motorcycles.

979
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: I'm living my best life right now and almost nothing

980
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 3: can bring me down, whereas he experiences more emotional ups

981
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 3: and downs. This man is the most loving, caring, supportive,

982
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: intelligent and handsome person I've ever dated. I've never been

983
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: treated so well, So why can't I loosen up and

984
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 3: look past the more trip?

985
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 5: Oh?

986
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: That is so funny? Do you follow?

987
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: Do you have you ever seen that page, Mikhaela the

988
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: Ick No, but.

989
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 5: I want to wait his boyfriend.

990
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 2: It's the Boyfriend X and there's a couple of them.

991
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 5: Hi, Hi, how are you Lauren? Hi? Lauren?

992
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: I was just talking about this Instagram page called like

993
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: the Ick Factor or the Boyfriend X. There's a few

994
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: of them, and they basically it's like new Ick Unlocked.

995
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: And then they show a guy stepping on a step

996
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: stool and they'll.

997
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 2: Be like, don't step on step stools.

998
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: And then they'll be like me, They're like a guy

999
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: hailing a taxi and they're like, I liked my boyfriend

1000
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: until I saw him hailing a taxi.

1001
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: They're like, don't hail taxis. And then it goes.

1002
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: It goes all the way and they just keept adding

1003
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: X to the list and it goes basically down to

1004
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: don't have feet, don't walk, don't bends over. I mean,

1005
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: it's so true. Listen, I know what you're talking about.

1006
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: I get picked out by we all do. We're women,

1007
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: and men are disgusting. They can be so gross. You

1008
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: have got to take all of the positive things that

1009
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: you said about him and put that front and center

1010
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: in your mind. It's almost like playing a trick on yourself.

1011
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: If a guy was like a hypochondriac too and thought

1012
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: they were having a heart attack and every time they

1013
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: had heartburn, That's exactly how I would feel, exactly what

1014
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: you're describing.

1015
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: But you have to let the good outweigh the bad,

1016
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: which it clearly does.

1017
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: Otherwise you wouldn't be with him and you wouldn't be

1018
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: having these feelings. Not everybody is going to fit into

1019
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: every compartment that we want them to fit, And I

1020
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: have to have had to learn this lesson multiple times

1021
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: in my life, but I speak from experience. You have

1022
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: to turn those negatives into a cute little thing, like

1023
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: you have to go, oh, isn't that sweet that he's like?

1024
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: You know, like you kind of have to you have

1025
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: to like play a trick on your mind. If the

1026
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: good things do outweigh the bad, which it sounds like

1027
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: they do, do they?

1028
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely?

1029
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 7: I think like part of me thinks that this is

1030
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 7: probably the healthiest relationship I've ever really been in. So

1031
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 7: like I have all this time to sit in focus

1032
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 7: on like the really trivial type of ick things that

1033
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 7: because I don't have any like other toxic thing to

1034
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 7: focus on, So it's just like forefront for me, and

1035
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 7: it's like, oh my god, look at the shoes he's wearing,

1036
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 7: you know, like i'd so I do. Over the past

1037
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 7: couple of weeks especially, been trying really hard to kind

1038
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 7: of like, yeah, cutify some of his things, we'll call it,

1039
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 7: you know, trying to be like, all right, well, he

1040
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 7: has all the things that you knew you were looking

1041
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 7: for in a relationship, like the non negotiables, but he

1042
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 7: has these other things that slightly throw you off sometimes,

1043
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 7: so you know, are.

1044
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: They really that bad? And to me they're not. I

1045
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 5: just you know, want to make sure.

1046
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 7: I think the biggest one is the one with anxiety,

1047
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 7: because it's something that's hard for me to understand. But

1048
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 7: that's something that I have to work on on my

1049
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 7: own because I need to be more understanding of what

1050
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 7: he's going through in his mindset when that when his

1051
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 7: anxieties do flare up and he's working on it too.

1052
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 7: So so you know the fact that he's even wanting

1053
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 7: to work on it is is sexy.

1054
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 5: That's hot.

1055
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hot any guy that wants to work on anything.

1056
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: And also the shoes, like those are things you can

1057
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: weigh in on and fix in a loving way.

1058
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can say it.

1059
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of course you did. Anxiety is a

1060
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: little trigger. You can't be like, don't have anxiety, even.

1061
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: Though that's an ick. You can't say stop it.

1062
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: But yes, you have to educate yourself more about what

1063
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: anxiety means. And actually this is a huge opportunity for

1064
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: you to grow as a partner and as his lover

1065
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: or like you want to be there for him in

1066
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: that way. So he has anxiety, he can't control that,

1067
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: you know that on an you know, intellectual level, and

1068
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: like you'll get there. Like he's got all these other

1069
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: things and you have to stay focused on his positive stuff.

1070
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: No one is going to deliver to us one hundred

1071
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: percent of what we want. It's just impossible to expect that.

1072
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think someone said to me. I think it

1073
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 7: was my hairstylist who said to me, She's like, you know,

1074
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 7: you really have to like pick your ick, right, And

1075
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 7: that kind of just such a simple way to say it,

1076
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 7: like really resonated with me because you know, I've dated

1077
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 7: a ton of other guys I was on a very

1078
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 7: long term relationship, and all of them had way worse

1079
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 7: issues than my current boyfriend now, and like the icks

1080
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 7: that he has are so, like I said, trivial and

1081
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 7: kind of silly. So it's like I need to be

1082
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 7: like be more accepting of that instead of thinking like

1083
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 7: it's a compatibility thing, because we have really great chemistry.

1084
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 7: We love being together, you know, just sometimes I just cringe.

1085
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, and also flip your response to it, like

1086
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: when he is freaking out or he is having anxiety,

1087
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: be really sweet, receptive and fake your reaction to it

1088
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: to see if that changes the exchange between the two

1089
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: of you and if it exchanges his behavior. Because if

1090
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: you're telling, like if you're giving the vibe like, oh,

1091
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: that's discussing, sometimes it becomes even louder. So like, try

1092
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Speaker 1: and experiment with how you react to him in the

1093
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: moments where you are icked out and see, because you know,

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00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: the best way to change someone else is by changing yourself.

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Speaker 2: That's always true.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, and I think that'll lead me to some

1097
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 7: personal growth too, because of the fact that I do

1098
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Speaker 7: have that like very closed off side of me where

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Speaker 7: I'm not very outwardly affectionate or like loving, I think

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Speaker 7: that maybe that'll help me go like grow in that

1101
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Speaker 7: direction too. We're trying to flip it and say, Okay,

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Speaker 7: you know, be more nurturing towards it, more accepting towards it,

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Speaker 7: and maybe that'll make me a more nurturing person in

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Speaker 7: the long.

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Speaker 2: Run, I think.

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Speaker 6: So, has he given you any thoughts about what he

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Speaker 6: would hope to have for you, like what support he

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Speaker 6: would need from you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So he has told me over the past like

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Speaker 7: year and a half that we have been together, that

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Speaker 7: I've that I do really help him, like calm down

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Speaker 7: when he is having anxiety, like when he's spiraling off

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Speaker 7: the edge, because I'm just such a I don't know,

1115
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Speaker 7: sometimes I feel like I have no feelings, but you know,

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Speaker 7: so he has told me that, and he has told

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Speaker 7: me in times where I haven't been as good with

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Speaker 7: reacting that like all he wants from me is to

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Speaker 7: just say like hey, like check in and say like, hey,

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Speaker 7: are you doing okay?

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Speaker 5: Like is there anything I can do for you? Which

1122
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 5: I have also tried.

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Speaker 7: To, you know, take into my own brain and make

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Speaker 7: sure that like I am being cognizant of it. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: he has said some things, not too much, but some things.

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Speaker 6: Because it sounds like a part of what of part

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00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 6: of the reason he is attracted to you as well,

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Speaker 6: is because of your toughness. Actually, yeah, and so there's

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Speaker 6: like a little bit of this, like potentially that that

1130
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Speaker 6: might be a little bit of a key to unlock

1131
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Speaker 6: how you guys can work through some of those things together.

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Speaker 6: If that's the biggest ick, then figuring out like your

1133
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,959
Speaker 6: common way to work through it together where you're sort

1134
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 6: of meeting halfway and like Chelsea said, like you can't

1135
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Speaker 6: just get rid of anxiety. It's something that you work

1136
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 6: through potentially for a lifetime. But he might be looking

1137
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 6: for you to be like, hey, man, like what do

1138
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 6: you need? Are you doing okay? But like not necessarily

1139
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 6: be like oh.

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Speaker 5: My god, come here, like let me like kiss your teek. Yeah,

1141
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 5: Like I can't.

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Speaker 9: I can't.

1143
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 5: I can't coddle. I can't coddle anyone.

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Speaker 6: You're not gonna be like I am not able to,

1145
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 6: like you'll do a brain book like oh my god,

1146
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 6: like let's just whatever.

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00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 5: Just But that doesn't seem like he's looking for that

1148
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 5: from you.

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00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 7: So I think you're right, he's looking for a little

1150
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 7: bit I'm not gonna call it coddling, but like a

1151
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 7: little bit of handholding, a little bit more of me

1152
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 7: being I don't know, nurturing or I don't know what

1153
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 7: to even call it, but you know, just or understanding. Yes,

1154
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 7: like I need to I need to soften up. He

1155
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 7: needs to toughen up, and we can work on that together.

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Speaker 3: And it's probably one of the reasons that you're attracted

1157
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 3: to each other is that you are very in touch

1158
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: with your feminine side but also your masculine side. And

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Speaker 3: it sounds like he's got a little bit more of

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Speaker 3: this emotional softness and stuff that we consider, you know,

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Speaker 3: a feminine energy.

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Speaker 4: And like maybe that's one of the reasons why you

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00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: two work well together.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I agree.

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00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm with you. I understand what you mean.

1166
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm with you on the cuntsiness and the bitchiness. Like

1167
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of right right, but I've adjusted.

1168
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: I have made a lot of adjustments.

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00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: If it's an ick that you can't live with, that's

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00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: one thing, and then you have to state that. But

1171
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: if it's an ick that's workable, and that's you know,

1172
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: it's not really controllable, which anxiety is not, you can't

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Speaker 1: blame anyone for that.

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Speaker 2: I think you can soften up and do.

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00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: A little bit work harder on your behalf and you know,

1176
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: and then just fix all the other shit that's bothering

1177
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: you about him that's materialistic, like his shoes. Always fix

1178
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: their shoes. There's nothing wrong with that. There is no

1179
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: shame in that.

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00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, that was one of the first things that

1181
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Speaker 5: we did.

1182
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: They need help with their clothing, all of it. It's

1183
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: like it's almost like they are swimming without arms. You

1184
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 1: have to like look at them like that. So anyway, Yeah,

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00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad you called in. I'm glad I see someone

1186
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: very like minded and challenge yourself level up, you know

1187
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: what I mean. You have to be a little bit

1188
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: softer for this relationship. It sounds like the healthiest relationship

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00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: you've been in. You said that yourself, so rise to

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00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: the occasion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I will do definitely. I appreciate the.

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Speaker 1: Advice, No problem, take care, Thanks all right, Thanks bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Oh Michaela. You know what makes me so happy, Michaela.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I see fixtures of you on vacation, it's just

1195
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: so happy making for me to see you taking some

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00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: time to yourself.

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Speaker 5: Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think you have a vacation coming up soon.

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Speaker 1: I think you're pretty you're getting too ready to hit

1200
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Speaker 1: it pretty hard, right.

1201
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 5: Getting ready to go.

1202
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, this season starts in October, so I'm going to

1203
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Speaker 6: Chili in two days for on snow training camp.

1204
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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1205
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's it's building.

1206
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 6: I just walked away from the Olympics and everybody was like,

1207
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 6: I'm going, like I'm done.

1208
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 2: You're like, my god, I'm not quite.

1209
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 5: We're getting started. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to see everything that you do

1211
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Speaker 1: this season.

1212
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you excel.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for your fiance to get back on

1214
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: his feed and fully fully recover. And I know that

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00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: he will because of his strength and fortitude and because

1216
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: he's got you by his side. And I think the

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00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: two of you together are an unbeatable couple. And I'm

1218
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: just so happy for everything that's happened in your life

1219
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see you celebrate more of it.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. I really appreciate that. Okay, one more.

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Speaker 6: I think the first time that you commented on one

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Speaker 6: of my Instagram posts, I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 6: it's Chelsea Handler And also like, wait, do you think

1224
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 6: she's I think I asked my pr Well, I was like,

1225
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 6: is she joking because she thinks her because I was like,

1226
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 6: she's got She's like, you've got the like edgy, like sarcastic,

1227
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 6: like super job, you have all the different senses of humor.

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00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 6: And I was like, holy shit, is she making fun

1229
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 6: of me or she's serious? And so it's just really

1230
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 6: really cool to have this conversation and like connect and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: And I love seeing you skiing and oh yeah it

1232
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: makes me happy. Well hopefully we'll get to ski one

1233
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 1: day together. That would be a real highlight. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love the idea of me trolling athletes though.

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Speaker 2: Just going around there.

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Speaker 5: I was like, good, yes, this could be a thing.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, Well, we won't keep you any longer, MICHAELA,

1238
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: have a great have the greatest day.

1239
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: We love you.

1240
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 5: Let me be too, Thanks, Bye bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So upcoming shows that I have you guys, I

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Speaker 1: will be all over. I'm Maine, Charlotte, North Carolina, Charleston,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. I'm coming to Texas. I'm coming to Saint

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Speaker 1: Louis and Kansas City, and then I will be in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas performing at the Chelsea Theater inside the Cosmopolitan Hotel.

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Speaker 1: My first three dates in Vegas are September first, Labor

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Speaker 1: Day weekend, and then November two and November thirtieth.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming to.

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn, New York, at the King's Theater on November eighth,

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Speaker 1: and i have tickets on sale throughout the end of

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Speaker 1: the year in December, so if you're in a city

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Speaker 1: like Philadelphia or Bethlehem, or San Diego or New Orleans

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Speaker 1: or Omaha, check Chelseahandler dot com for tickets.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you'd.

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Speaker 3: Like advice from Chelsea, shoot us an email at Dear

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00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,080
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Speaker 3: include your phone number. Dear Chelsea is edited and engineered

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