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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with her radio. Oh man, what a week. I'm pumped

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Speaker 1: for this week. I love Ashley to death, but there

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Speaker 1: is a woman in my life that I am so

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Speaker 1: excited to share with you all, all of you. Jessica Clark. Hi, Jessica, Hey, Benjamin,

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Speaker 1: My my girlfriend is co hosting the podcast with me

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Speaker 1: today because she watched one of her first full episodes

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Speaker 1: of The Bachelor or Bachelor and I Guess to Stay

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Speaker 1: last night. She was a part of watching the reunion show,

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Speaker 1: so she thought it would be a great idea to

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Speaker 1: come on and co host with me. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was a great idea. I hear thought it was a

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Speaker 1: great idea. And Ashley need to take the week off.

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Speaker 1: So Jessica's on the podcast today. But to get it

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Speaker 1: warmed up, Jessica, do you feel little nervous? Um? I

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Speaker 1: was sweating earlier, but it's kind of stopped. Now let's

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Speaker 1: start sweating again. Um. To get her warmed up a

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Speaker 1: little bit, We're gonna stick JESSK in the hot seat.

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Speaker 1: And for the sake of privacy and because I think

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Speaker 1: she might get a little nervous around me, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to step away and let Amy our producers step in

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Speaker 1: and throw Jessica in the hot seat. Jessica, you are

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Speaker 1: a doll. I cannot wait to do this podcast with you.

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Speaker 1: Is going to be a blast, but I'm gonna step away.

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Speaker 1: Good luck, Amy take it away. So jess hiy. So

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Speaker 1: I'll let you and Ben have a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: later in the show with Tristan and Dianna Pappas. Is

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Speaker 1: it Dianna or Deanna? Dianna Dianna Pappas Deanna? Okay, so

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Speaker 1: they'll be here. But first, now, Ben called it for privacy.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more to protect him from not having

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Speaker 1: to be the one to ask you these questions. But

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Speaker 1: I will. So first we'll start with the easy Okay.

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Speaker 1: Did you never walk into well, I'll use you into it.

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Speaker 1: Did you never watch the show before? Well, I had

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Speaker 1: watched it. I've watched episodes here there. I think last

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Speaker 1: time I was on I might have mentioned, like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you're in college and you have friends on Monday nights,

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Speaker 1: sort of like come and watch The Bachelor with me.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a fun like girls night. But I've

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Speaker 1: never been like I'm gonna watch every single one you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of fans. And had you watched any of Ben's season?

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Speaker 1: So I hadn't. Actually I think I might have watched

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Speaker 1: like part of one episode, but it didn't really register,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I wasn't right, Yeah, because my mom

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Speaker 1: watched the show too. How did it feel just sort

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Speaker 1: of moments ago watching Ben on the show and seeing

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Speaker 1: clips of Ben with Joejo and seeing clips of Ben

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Speaker 1: with Lauren and saying I love you too, both of

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Speaker 1: them because that was kind of what they highlighted about

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Speaker 1: your boyfriend Ben. What does that feel like? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: think I actually wasn't expecting to like have the reaction

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Speaker 1: that I did. And I watched the episode of My

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Speaker 1: Room and she looked at me and she was like,

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Speaker 1: you don't like this very much? Do you? And I

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Speaker 1: was like no, I'm like, I'm surprised by how much

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Speaker 1: my stomach dropped watching that. And I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of it just had to do, like I mean, especially

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Speaker 1: when I first started dating Ben, all my friends that

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Speaker 1: But like right off the bat, I'm like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: playing that comparison game in your head. And um, I

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Speaker 1: on here that looks so wonderful and perfect. I think

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Speaker 1: that's right. It's human nature. I mean, I think people

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Speaker 1: you don't want to even really hear your boyfriend talking

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Speaker 1: They're just looking out for me. It doesn't know. I

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Speaker 1: all girls struggle with identity in comparison, as I said earlier,

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Speaker 1: that's all that should really matter to me. And whenever

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Speaker 1: kind of a question that will ground me again, is well,

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Speaker 1: to it. It's like, all right, just rip it off

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Speaker 1: that's what we always te What me and Ben always

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Speaker 1: you've said a couple of things in that last stament

428
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: that I want to dig into a bit. But it

429
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: felt like watching the reunion back, which I loved watching.

430
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: By the way, I thought it was a really well

431
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: done reunion, which a lot of times, you know, The

432
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: Bachelor doesn't do these great This one was a terrific one.

433
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: It did feel like you had a lot of fangirls

434
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: in the room. Did it feel like it when you're

435
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: in the mansion together? Yeah? But like I said, like

436
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: that insecurity in my head, these demons in my head

437
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: like just they downplay it and they're like they tell me, oh,

438
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: they're just faking it, or they you know, like they're

439
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: making this up just to just to make me feel better,

440
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 1: um in a way. But I will say, you know,

441
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: like I connected completely with Rachel, who, um, you know,

442
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: he kept saying great things like I'm just so intrigued

443
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: by Trister or whatever, and we really connected. I had

444
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: met a lot of the girls, um, a lot of

445
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: the more recent girls like Rachel and Becca and Joe Joe. Uh,

446
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: and it was it was just so it's so like

447
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: crazy to be part of something where I'm meeting people

448
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 1: Like I've always said this about Ryan too. I never

449
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: would have met Ryan had it not done for the show.

450
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: I mean he lived in Colorado, I was all over

451
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: the place, living at Miami and the time, and I

452
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: we never would have met. And the same thing goes

453
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: with all of the girls that I have met through Bachelorette, Um,

454
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,239
Speaker 1: even people who weren't the leaved like Ashley or you know,

455
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: so many people who weren't the lead too, and I

456
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: I just feel so grateful to to be able to

457
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: call them friends. Um, you know, anyone boys girls you included,

458
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: then you know everybody. I'm sure you feel the same way.

459
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: But um, you know, when I when I hear people

460
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: fan girling towards me, those demons come out, and I

461
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: just tried to I try to live in the moment

462
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: and accept it graciously, but I also in the back

463
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: of my mind and like, whatever, you don't deserve this,

464
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying, Like, it's it's hard

465
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: for me to take that in, but I am so

466
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: appreciative but of it. What was really interesting watching it

467
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: was how y'all just kept talking about not very many

468
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: people like understand what you've been through. And I think

469
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: the more I've talked to Ben, the more I've learned

470
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: this experience is so wild. Um. And so that was

471
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 1: really cool to watch. But one of the things that

472
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: I was wondering is what was something that we didn't

473
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: see on TV when you all all got together. Was

474
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: there anything like funny that you talked about or you

475
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: all realized you had in common or something like that. Uh, Well,

476
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: one behind the scenes thing, uh And I'm that's kind

477
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: of my Instagram post too, is posting some behind the

478
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: scenes pictures and video. But my daughter was able to

479
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: be there, So I was actually on spring break with Blakesley,

480
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: my daughter at the time. Like when I got the

481
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: call and I looked at my calendar, it was it

482
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: just so happened oddly enough. And I don't know if

483
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: Bachelor producers because they they knew that I was going

484
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: on springbreak because of some things that we were We

485
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: had been talking about tickets to shows and stuff, and

486
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 1: they knew I was going to be there. Um. I

487
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: can't imagine that they planned it all around me, but

488
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: it just so happened that we ended up being in

489
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: Los Angeles at the exact same time. So the producers

490
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: let me bring Blakesley and she was backstage with me,

491
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: and she love I mean like she idolizes Caitlyn. She

492
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: loves Caitlin. Um, She's met a bunch of the girls

493
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: and she got to meet all of them. So the

494
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: fact that I got to include her in this, in

495
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: this even though she's not um shown on air, the

496
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: fact that I got to include her and it was

497
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: really special, not the your daughter is how old at

498
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: this point? She's can? I mean? Is it? And I

499
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: have a couple of listener emails that I want to

500
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: make sure to get to, but I really am interested.

501
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 1: What is it like for her now to start like

502
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: conceptualizing the fact that her mom is a big deal,

503
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: her dad is a big deal, like that you were

504
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: on TV, you met in TV. And then she shows

505
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: up to the mansion, like, has it started to thinking

506
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: a little bit that like you got this whole thing started,

507
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: and like she should be really exciting for you and

508
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: proud of you, you know what she um, she's starting

509
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: to get it first. Sure, I mean obviously since they

510
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: were babies, Max and Blakesley, people come up to us, um,

511
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: not on a daily basis by any means, but if

512
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: we're traveling or something and we're in an a report

513
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: um at the grocery store and there's you know, tourists

514
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: come in to hang out on the slips of ail. Um,

515
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: they they'll ask us, you know, only can we get

516
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: a picture. I'm a huge fan of the Bachelor of

517
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: the Bachelotte, So they've heard those words bachelor and bachelorette

518
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: pretty much all their life, um or their lives, and

519
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: they definitely are getting it. It's really it's it's difficult

520
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: because we we want them to know their story. Of course,

521
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: it's their story, um, just as much as it's mine

522
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: and Ryan's. But we also don't want uh, their ego

523
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: to be blown up, you know, like they're they're now

524
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: showing um the first season of The Bachelor, of the

525
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: first season of The Bachelotte, and our wedding on an

526
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: app called to be t U b I And so

527
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: people can tune in now, including my children, um and

528
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: their friends, you know, if they go on the t

529
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: B app, which I will try to avoid at all

530
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: costs for as long as possible, but um, I you

531
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: know they will be able to watch the show, whereas

532
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: I feel like back in the day, Ryan and I,

533
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: because I mean, please, we watched it on VHS tapes

534
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: on a VC let's be real, So um, we thought

535
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: that once the show was over, it was over, you know,

536
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be reliving it, and now that it's available,

537
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: we're we're kind of reliving it, um and having to

538
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: think about the fact that our children will be watching this,

539
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: whether it's with us on the couch where I kind

540
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: of want to like sit down with them and explain

541
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: kind of go through the show and what was happening whatever,

542
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: and maybe skip the parts about me kissing other guys.

543
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: You know, that's a little awkward watching your mom kiss

544
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: another boy before she was married to your dad. A

545
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: little awkward. But um, I also, UM know, I live

546
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: in the real world and I know that. I'm sure

547
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: they'll be on their computers or their iPads, um and

548
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: snickering under the covers with their friends at what their

549
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: mom and dad are doing. You know. So we live

550
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: in the real world. We know that it's going to

551
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: be part of their lives. We just want to keep

552
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: them grounded as much as possible and not let it

553
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: go to their head. It's uh, it has to be

554
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: a little weird. I wonder that oftentimes. And um, before

555
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: Trista you actually came on, Jessica was talking a lot

556
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: about how it was watching you know, even the reunion

557
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: and seeing me with other women and how that felt

558
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: because she didn't see watch my season. And so I

559
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: imagine that even though it's different, because just gonna have

560
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: a romantic relationship, your kids are gonna feel very similar, right,

561
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: some confusing like thoughts and weird, It's gonna feel awkward,

562
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: but ut in the day, we live in the real

563
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: world and we know you know where life is now

564
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: and what matters now. Um, you know, Trista as and

565
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: and obviously you know over and over again, Yeah, you

566
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: get asked about your family, and you get asked about

567
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: your relationship with Ryan and those things are are such

568
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: incredible examples of what we're all hoping for in Bachelor Nation.

569
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna ask you for a second to kind

570
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: of step into the hosting seat with Jessica and I, UM,

571
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: because I want to dive into this reunion a little bit.

572
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: What a what a unique experience for all of you.

573
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: But one of our listeners send us an email at Tristan,

574
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm hoping you can help us with it. It's from Caroline.

575
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: It says Meredith and Gin. I've been a Bachelor fansince

576
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: the beginning. I'm super excited for the Bachelorte reunion show.

577
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: But why don't they address at all why Meredith and

578
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: Jin are left out? Will they? Everyone keeps posting your

579
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: union picture and in so many comments people ask, but

580
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: they don't answer it. Can Bob Guinea or Andrew or

581
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: Trista get them to come? I hope they do. Now

582
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: obviously we don't see them on the reunion. Can you

583
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: give us any insight to why they weren't there? What

584
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: I have been told and I don't know. Um, I

585
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: don't know what really happened because I wasn't involved in

586
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: booking them or whatever. Obviously, UM and I've lost touch

587
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: with them. I mean I used to be friends with them. Um,

588
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: we used to we used to talk, and we used

589
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: to go to like the Difference, um, like the After

590
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: the Final Roads ceremonies and whatever. So I've definitely had

591
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: a relationship with them back then, but have lost touch.

592
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: And I just think that it was a scheduling conflicts.

593
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: I just don't think they could be there. And it's

594
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard, as you know, it's difficult to

595
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: get any people together for anything. Um, everyone has their

596
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: own lives that they're going through, their own schedules, their

597
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: own companies, their own businesses, their own families, you know,

598
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: all of that, and it's really difficult to get anyone together.

599
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: So the fact that they got I think it's thirteen

600
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: of us together is a miracle, super impressive. Yeah, So

601
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: I think I honestly think it was just a scheduling conflict.

602
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I wondered obviously it was kind of

603
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: you know in all honestly just that I was I

604
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: saw last night, you know, there have been fifteen seasons

605
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: or Hannah Bey is the fifteen Bachelorette, and I was like,

606
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: but there's only what twelve of you there and I

607
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: didn't mean I looked back through. Yeah. Um, so it's

608
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: it's pretty shocking. Um, Scott, I know that you've had

609
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: a lot to process after watching the reunion. Uh is

610
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: there anything that kind of stood out to you watching

611
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: this back that you'd want to pick Trista's mind about. Actually,

612
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: I think the biggest question I had for Tristo was

613
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: more like the wedding on TV, because I'm feeling there's

614
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: been a lot of bachelorettes and or not a lot,

615
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: but more bachelorettes, but your wedding was the very first one.

616
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: And whenever I was watching last night and they showed

617
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: y'all's kiss and it was y'all had like the cutest

618
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: kiss ever at your wedding. First of all, I hadn't

619
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: seen that before. But what was it like to be

620
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: married on TV? Was that kind of weird or where

621
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: you just use your relationship or what? You know what

622
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: Our relationship had started on television with cameras following this.

623
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: So yes, it is a very strange thing to think

624
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: about in the real world, but for us it wasn't

625
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: necessarily abnormal because that's how we met, That's how our

626
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: relationships started, is with you know, a crew following us around. Uh,

627
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: it's crazy, but it's the truth. So UM. I mean,

628
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: for me, I was the kind of girls who dreamt

629
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: about my wedding since I was little. And to have

630
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: people like Mindy Weiss and Mark's Garden and bade La Mishka,

631
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: um sorry, Bagela Mishka and to Corey and all these

632
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: like really well known wedding experts to be working with us, um,

633
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 1: and then to have I can't even remember how many

634
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: flowers there were. There was like twenty thousand flowers or

635
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: something like that. And I wore I had diamonds on

636
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: my shoes like. It was not what I at all envisioned.

637
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: I was living the fairy tale for my wedding, that

638
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: is for sure, um. And I wanted my family to

639
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: be part of that fairy tale. So you know. Um,

640
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: there were some ups and downs and it wasn't always

641
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: uh roses and unicorns, um, but it was it was

642
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: a beautiful day. They actually the production did a really

643
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: great job of hiding the cameras so that the guests

644
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: didn't feel like it was an intrusion. Um. They did

645
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: a really good job of that. So UM we were

646
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: able to you know, take over an entire resort in

647
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: Palm Springs. It's now there as Carlton, but it was

648
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: Rancho Mirage back in the day, and we took over

649
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: the whole thing and it was just a weekend full

650
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: of family and friends. It was my favorite weekend. I mean,

651
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: I had Brad Paisley singing a song that Ryan wrote

652
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: me as a poem, like that's not normal, like it

653
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: I don't get that, that is my life. Yeah, it was,

654
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so simple. Um. Well. I also one

655
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: other question I had was just if you had any

656
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: advice for Hannah as she enters into this role now,

657
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: since I mean, you did it first, and obviously you

658
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: did it well, since you're still married to who you picked,

659
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: So did you have any advice for her? You know what.

660
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: I've obviously been asked this a lot over the years, Um,

661
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: and it's hard for me because I feel like if

662
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: the people are where they are, then they probably have

663
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: a really good support system and a good head on

664
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: their shoulders and they'll be able to uh hopefully quote

665
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: unquote succeed in their relationships. But um, for me, it's

666
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: just all about really enjoying the moment because it is

667
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: a once in a lifetime opportunity. UM, also getting as

668
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: much sleep as possible, and um being grateful for uh,

669
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: the path that they're on, for being given the opportunity

670
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: to um be the bachelor, be the bachelor, you know,

671
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: anyone who is the lead. That's That's pretty much the

672
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: advice I gave. Oh, and then just kind of after

673
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: it's over, take it all in and do the award

674
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: shows and do all the things, you know, all the

675
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: fun things, but try to get away from it as

676
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: much as possible and try to focus on your relationship

677
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: and try to prioritize it because that has been what

678
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: has allowed Ryan and I to stay married, I feel

679
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: like for for fifteen years so far is because we

680
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: kind of got away from it all and we not disappeared,

681
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: but we came to Vail to live a more quiet

682
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: life and really focus on each other. So UM, I

683
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: just feel like if there's any way that people can

684
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: do that, it might look different, um in different relationships.

685
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: It will look different in different relationships, but for us

686
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: that really helps so that those with people little pieces

687
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: of advice I'd give. I would listen to Trista Sutter

688
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: give me advice on anything at any point. Trista, Um,

689
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna let you go. I really appreciate you being

690
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: our first guest of the podcast today. Also, thank you

691
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: for being Batchination's first bachelorette. There's a thousand more things

692
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: I would love to talk to you about, and I'm

693
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: sure we'll have to bring you back on to do that,

694
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: but for now, Trista, continue to be amazing. Thanks for

695
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: being a great guide for all of us. And please

696
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: please don't be a stranger of the podcast. Thanks guys,

697
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having nice to meet you. Jessica.

698
00:38:42,320 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: Nice Trysta. Okay, bye, just bye. If next on the podcast, Jessica,

699
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: We've got another one of bachel Nation's favorites, Dianna Poppas Stagliano.

700
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean, this podcast is full of amazing women today.

701
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: Not only do I get to do this podcast with Jessica,

702
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: which is a dream of mine. Actually you are missed,

703
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: but Jessica, you're terrific. We've had Trista on the podcast,

704
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: and up next is another one of our favorites, Dianna Stagliano.

705
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: She was Season four of the Bachelorette. How do we

706
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: know you, Diana? Oh my gosh, um, you know me?

707
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: Probably from the Bachelor before the Bachelorette, because I was

708
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: what everyone thought Brad Almack was going to choose, and

709
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: then he decided not to choose anyone. I I know

710
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: Jessica has a lot of questions lined up because after

711
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: watching the reunion, she was a big fan of years.

712
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: After kind of hearing your stories, she was super intrigued.

713
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: But before I let Jessica loose, I want to just

714
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: dig in a little bit here to a couple of

715
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: these things. So why did everybody think, first off, Brad

716
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: Wilmack was going to choose you. I think because he

717
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: told everyone he was going to choose me. I mean,

718
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: that would be a good set for the confusion. You know,

719
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: uh what happened, especially like me, like the camera shut

720
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: off and Brad he never he never said, hey, I'm

721
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: going to pick you, but he said everything, but like

722
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ditch you in the end, you know what

723
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like they let me stay the night with

724
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: Brat before the finale taped, and I'll never forget this

725
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: because I was so confused, Like I spend the night

726
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: with him off camera and no one around. So it's

727
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: not like somebody was like, hey, Brad to go to

728
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: cannilect you like her. Like, we just chilled at his

729
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: house and watched TV and hung out and it was

730
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: like totally normal, and I was like, all right, cool,

731
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: this could work. And then I'll never forget that day.

732
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: He walked me out to the car and he was like, Okay,

733
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow and I said, oh, don't remind me,

734
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: and he kissed me and he said, don't worry, it's

735
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: going to be a good day now. Then I don't

736
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: know about you, but that would not leave me to leave.

737
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: He was not going to choose me. I mean, I've

738
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: made some really bad decisions, are like really like harmful,

739
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: unwise decisions during this thing, but I never The one

740
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: thing I did to do is say you're definitely gonna

741
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: get chosen. Yeah, that would feel like and then hey,

742
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: don't worry to Mars. Gonna be a good day because

743
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: there's so much stress around, I imagine such a confusing deal. Yes,

744
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: So I you know what I I That like haunted

745
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: me forever and I've never gotten a clear answer out

746
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: of Brad. We stayed in touch for a really long time,

747
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: and we stayed friends for a really long time, even

748
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: up until like the day Stephen and I got married,

749
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: and I finally was like, you have to stop texting

750
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: me and calling me, like let it go. Um, But

751
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: I just I've never got a clear answer as to

752
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: what exactly happened or what made him flip switch, you know. Um.

753
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: But I took that into the bachelorrette thinking I'm never

754
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: going to do that to someone, Like I realized there's

755
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: an aspect of this show that you have to leave

756
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: people on which just sucks. You know, It's just awful,

757
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: and that is so beyond me and my character. But

758
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: I literally the whole time, I was like, I'm not

759
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: gonna do what Brad did to me. I Am not

760
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: going to allow someone to feel that kind of pain

761
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: and confusion like it. It's like Royally messed me up

762
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: for quite a while. I would imagine, I would definitely imagine. Okay,

763
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: before I send this over to Jessica, I have one

764
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: last question now, and I'm sorry because I know that

765
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: you're married to an amazing person and Stephen, you guys

766
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: are happy you have children, but I have to ask

767
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: them brag question. You saw him do the show twice

768
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: two questions of that. Then do you think it was

769
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: was a weird for you to watch him do it twice?

770
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: Or was it weird to see him back in the

771
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: world again? And then the second is do you think

772
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: today he still deals with that being a piece of

773
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: his identity? The Bachelor that has done it twice? You

774
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: know if you do it once? Like for me, the

775
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: Bachelor is a huge piece of my story and I

776
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: appreciate it and I have been great for me, but

777
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: it is not my identity. It is not It is

778
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: not the thing that defines me. Do you think Brad's

779
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: has to deal with that? So I think? Okay, so

780
00:42:54,719 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: two questions here, right? So the first one, um, where

781
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: was the first one? And now I forgot to watch

782
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: him on TV? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So I'll

783
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: tell you it wasn't weird to watch him back on

784
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: TV because at that point I was already engaged to Steven,

785
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: so I really could care less. But you know the

786
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: parts that were weird was that, um, Emily, who he chose,

787
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: who I adore, who I like, love, love lovel of her.

788
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: She and I could not look more physically different from

789
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: one another, you know what I'm saying. So to think

790
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: like I was the girl that he liked, and now

791
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: he's choosing something to fleete the opposite, Like sometimes I wondered,

792
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: just Brad know who he is or what he wants

793
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: in a partner, you know. And then the other part

794
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: that I found really weird is that I cannot tell

795
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: you how many times in private conversations that Brad was like,

796
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: I will never ever live this down. I will never

797
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: do it again. I cannot wait to like high tail

798
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: it and run as far from the Bachelor as I

799
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: possibly can. So I was blown away when I found

800
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: out he was doing the show again, so much that

801
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: they brought myself and Jenny the other the other young

802
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: lady that he didn't choose at the time. They brought

803
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: us into film, but they called us about a week

804
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: ahead of time and hey, okay, the secret brat, but

805
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: we need to bring you guys in for a special

806
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, hung out, phone texted Brad

807
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, what the f are you doing?

808
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: And so that like that blew me away because he

809
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: just made such a stink about how he could not

810
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: like he could not like a racist from his past

811
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: fast enough, like he was like, but it was just awful,

812
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: Like I don't ever want to do this again, blah

813
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: blah blah. So I was that was a part where

814
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: I was like shocked to see that he was doing

815
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: the Bachelor again. Now, you know, I don't know. Maybe

816
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: they paid him a lot of money, maybe he had

817
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: a bar needed to promote, you know, everybody has their

818
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: own things. I don't really know, or maybe he's only ready.

819
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: I have no clue, but I was really blown away

820
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: by that. And so the other part is that I

821
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: think we all run with with that that the Bachelor

822
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: or the Bachelorette is a part of her past and

823
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: people always know us from that, Like I will always

824
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: be known as that little hill billy girls from Noon

825
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: and Georgia who became the bachelorette, and half the people

826
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: from my like childhood did not even know my name

827
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: was Bianna. They only knew me as deed and they

828
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: were like, who's Anna, Like what is this? You know?

829
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: So I think it's the same thing as for Brad

830
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: is that it will always be a part of his

831
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: past and hopefully he finds some joy and peace in

832
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: that now. But I also have to like, you know,

833
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: he's a cool man, and he comes from a great family,

834
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: and he owned bars he's a businessman, like I don't

835
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: imagine when he's sitting down to take a business meeting,

836
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you're bradman bachelor, so we'll do it.

837
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: I imagine they're like, you're Brad the successful bar owner

838
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: who lives in Austin, Texas. You know, so I bet

839
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: you there's probably a part of him. And he's like, Okay,

840
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: this is a part of my past. But I guarantee

841
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't ever leave with that. Yeah, you know. It's

842
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: it's so interesting to kind of hear those and and

843
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: Brad has always been an interesting person to meet, just

844
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: because he did choose to do it twice and he

845
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like the guy that I would do that.

846
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: So hey, step over to you now, Jessica, you're a

847
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: big fan watching your union back dive deep dive in.

848
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 1: Oh my god, seen it, Jessica, you saw it? Yes,

849
00:45:54,600 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: I watched it. That's so funny, little yeah that don't

850
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: I care about. It was so cute. They show your

851
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: kids and your cute little family. And I know you're

852
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: dying because Austin kept looking at the camera guys going

853
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: oh I farted, and I'm like, dude, please for two

854
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: seconds They didn't show that, but I wish they did

855
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: because that would have been really cute. Um. But what

856
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: was really interesting to me is that you didn't meet

857
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: your husband on the show, but the show kind of

858
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: led you to meeting your husband. Can you like get

859
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: into that a little bit more, because I feel like

860
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: so comfortable right now with your Southern accent. You're from me, right,

861
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: I'm from Nashville, You're from Georgia. I love it. I'm

862
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: from but I lived in Nashville for five years. I

863
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: bar attended on Broadway for five years throughout college no

864
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: Way Wait, which is about twenty minutes south of the

865
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: city of Atlanta. So, um, I am pretty close to Auburn,

866
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: but I am not an Auburn fan's Mike parents still

867
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: live in Dunwoodie and I'm from Marietta. Technically, it's so funny. Yeah,

868
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: I was born Um anyways, Yes, so you didn't meet

869
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: your husband on the show, but the show helped you

870
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: meet him. Yeah, so okay. So I had never seen

871
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: the show before I was on it, and then after

872
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: my season air, the very first season of the show

873
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: that I ever watched was Jillian Harris's season. I had

874
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: never really seen it play from beginning to end, and

875
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: so I watched the show and I saw Michael on

876
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: the show, and I watched it all the way until hometown,

877
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: and you know, it was so funny. I saw that

878
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: he was an identical twin. But I had just come

879
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: off like Brad season and then doing my old season,

880
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I cannot with another set of twins.

881
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: I can't even go there. But I saw Michael and

882
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: I was like, he's so fun He's funny, he's like charismatic.

883
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: And then when they showed his family on the hometown date,

884
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I loved them and

885
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't even know them. So I was like fan

886
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: girling so hard because I knew I needed to be

887
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: a part of the Staglianos. So I guess, like in

888
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: the hindsight look looking back at all, it was kind

889
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: of creepy, but then it also made me see, Um,

890
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean for me, I mean, I'm a Christian, so

891
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: I like to look back, I on enjoy in the

892
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: Lord's plan that that's where I was meant to be. Um.

893
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just like loved Michael. I loved his family,

894
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: and so I really wanted to meet Michael, and I

895
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, maybe we could date and no,

896
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: it's is so funny. Is Michael felt the same way.

897
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: He wanted to meet me and he wanted to date me.

898
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: But we met. They were in town filming their mental

899
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: all for Jillian Harris's season, and we met at a bar.

900
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: I was hanging out with Jason and Molly. Um. So

901
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: weird how this bachelors family is so incestral. What don't

902
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: you think ben weird and stol but awesome family. So um. Anyway,

903
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: I met Michael and probably like three minutes after talking

904
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: to Michael, I was like, holy corupt, this is never

905
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: gonna work. He was like, way too much for me,

906
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: like and seen it up dating a friend of mine

907
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: at the time for several years, and so probably like

908
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: six months into their relationship, he was like, Hey, you

909
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: know what, you're pretty cool. I've got this brother who

910
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: looks a lot like me, and I think you guys

911
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: might hit it off. Was like, yeah, awesome, twin, super hot,

912
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: really smart. Yeah, I'll take him. That sounds great. And

913
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: within like a week of of knowing Stephen and dating him,

914
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I wasn't in love yet, but it

915
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: does feel weird because it was like on the Bachelor timeline,

916
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: but I was just like, this dude's awesome, Like I

917
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: will not be okay if he is not in my

918
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: life like forever, you know, And I've realized for someone

919
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: who is not in love or hasn't you know, met

920
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: their person or whatever, that is Like that sounds so stupid,

921
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: but it's not. I just knew I didn't love him yet,

922
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: but I just knew like I was not going to

923
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: be okay if I didn't spend the rest of my

924
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: life with him, Like I would never be okay, I

925
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: would never be good enough. And he's just awesome. He's

926
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: just like good solid man and he's funny and he's

927
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: you know, he's really great. And you got the last

928
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: name stag Lean, which is awesome hap for like a

929
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: brown No way, I hadn't like you needed to be

930
00:49:53,400 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: in stag Lean. Addison and Austin cannot figure out how

931
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: to say the last name. They're like, it's Stagnano and

932
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, well that the u um the the question

933
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: I have now And this was your and Jess and

934
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: I've been able to talk about a little bit here

935
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: for our relationship. You know, you go from being the

936
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: bachelor or the bachelor, and everybody knows you as a

937
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: single person on the pursuit of love and if it

938
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: works or doesn't work for you, everybody isn't interested in

939
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: your story, your relation to your romantic story. And then

940
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: you meet Steven and everything kind of speeds up. Right.

941
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't really sit I don't know how

942
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: else to say this, but you didn't sit in the

943
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: singleness very long and experience, you know, the attention that

944
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: you get from that, and you didn't get to go

945
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: go kind of explore the world after the show, and

946
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: you're kind of heartbroken, but you're figuring out and everybody

947
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: knows you and love and all that stuff. You met

948
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: Stephen and and my buddy said this best when I

949
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: met Jack because I called him up. His name's Corey

950
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: is a good friend of mine, and I want to

951
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: hear if you relate in what you think of this.

952
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: He goes, I said, Corey, I met this girl. She's incredible,

953
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 1: like she's she's somebody I want to invest my life into.

954
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: But it's scary for me because my identity has been

955
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: being single, Like I'm known for being single, the victim

956
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: of heartbreak and all these people know that, I said,

957
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: And he said, then like the crazy part is like

958
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: this next chapter of life for you, uh is going

959
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: to be different, Like it might not be as exciting

960
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: and may not be as sporadic, but I can guarantee

961
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: you if she is the one, it's gonna be a

962
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: lot more fulfilling. And so you know, just with that

963
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: one went into like that is so much more feeling.

964
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: I want to hear what you think of that, because

965
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 1: you jumped right into it. Well, I mean kind of

966
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: are you know? The way you know there's been better

967
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: than anyone is that when things lay out in the

968
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: press or on television, stuff might have happened several months ago.

969
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: So when like Jesse and I broke up, God bless me,

970
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: what was I thinking? Goodness gracious, But when we broke up,

971
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: that played out kind of delayed, so like we already

972
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: knew that our relationship, or at least I did. Maybe

973
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: he was blindsided. I'm not really sure, but there's no

974
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: way he thought he was in spent the rest of

975
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: his life with me, for sure. We like hated each other. Um,

976
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: when that was when that was going down, when we

977
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: were breaking up, like we have been unhappy for several months.

978
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: It was just a matter of pulling the plug. And

979
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 1: I think with Jesse if the if the plug was pulled,

980
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: it was the only dollar signs he was going to

981
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: lose that on, you know. But for me, like that

982
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: was the rest of my life and I couldn't imagine

983
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: spending the rest of my life with someone like that.

984
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: When we broke up and it all played out in

985
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: the media, I was over it by that point, so

986
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: it kind of looked like I moved on pretty quickly,

987
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: but I didn't really. I was single for over a year,

988
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: over a year and a half, and I dated and

989
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: some people who were like nobody, you know, which was

990
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: great for me because it made me feel normal again.

991
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: And then some people you know that have some sort

992
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: of like claim to like whatever TV or whatever. Um.

993
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: But I do feel like your situation is a little

994
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: different from mine because there was no social media when

995
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: I was on the show, so I didn't have like

996
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: Papa us following me around and seeing who I was dating.

997
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: So there's a blessing in that because I could go

998
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: out and do whatever I want, or I could go

999
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: on a date because smashes want was and no one

1000
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: was following me around and taking pictures and posting all

1001
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: over Instagram. I didn't have to live through that, So

1002
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: I feel like that's where our stories are a little

1003
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: bit different because I didn't feel the pressure of all

1004
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: of that. Um, I got to live my life when

1005
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: I got to travel the world and I got to

1006
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: do four tours to Iraq and Afghanistan to visit the troops,

1007
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: and I got to do a ton of things that

1008
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: I feel like all of that prepared me to meet

1009
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: Stephen because when I did. Your phone is right, it

1010
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: is a different kind of story. Like maybe there's not

1011
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: that excitement of being single, but you know what, there's

1012
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: the excitement of like signing someone and there's nothing better

1013
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: than that. Like I didn't have to be anybody that

1014
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't. With Stephen, he appreciated me for who I was.

1015
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: He didn't treat me like I was the bachelorette. It's

1016
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: funny because our first date, he was like really nervous

1017
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: because he was like, I don't know I pick her

1018
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: up in a helicopter, Like I don't have any money

1019
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: for a limos, you know, Like he was like, where

1020
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: do I take her to Chili's or do I have

1021
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: to spend my whole paycheck on this other restaurant at all.

1022
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: I don't care about things like that. I don't care

1023
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: what kind of car he drives. I don't care about

1024
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: where he takes me to dinner. Like I wanted to

1025
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: fine quality in a person, and I wanted to I

1026
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: wanted to be loved, you know, And I think at

1027
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's something that we as

1028
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: humans crave. We want to be loved. And so I

1029
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: just loved that about Stephen, that he was normal. He

1030
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: did not pretend to be someone that he wasn't. He was,

1031
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, as a fool teacher who didn't make a

1032
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: lot of money, and he didn't pretend to not be

1033
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: that person. He was a man who loved the Lord,

1034
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: and he didn't pretend to not be that person. And

1035
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: he loved me for who I was. I didn't have

1036
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: to be anything different. I didn't have to um to

1037
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: act any different. I didn't have to act like I

1038
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: was this girl who was on this television show and

1039
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: now here I am selling like innate bartending in the

1040
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: Hollywood while I go on auditions day to day, like

1041
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: it was just my life was a mess. Um so

1042
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: I feel like I understand what you are saying, but

1043
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: it was to me exciting in a different way because

1044
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: I found peace and knowing who I was. And I

1045
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, the older I have gotten and

1046
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: um and become and then in my marriage and having

1047
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: kids and becoming a mother, I am more secure in

1048
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: myself and as myself and as a person than I

1049
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: ever was at twenty six walking into the Bachelor mansion.

1050
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: That was one of the questions that they asked us

1051
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: when we filmed, and I'm pretty sure they probably asked

1052
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: all of the women, but I remember standing there, and

1053
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, the producers said, why are you different this

1054
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: time around walking into the house, And I said, when

1055
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: I walked into here ten years ago, almost eleven years ago,

1056
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: I was naive and I was young, and I was

1057
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: desperate to be loved and I don't care who did that.

1058
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: And I said, and I walk in here today and

1059
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm a confident woman. I am. I know who I am,

1060
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Speaker 1: and I am proud of who I am, and I'm

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00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: proud of where I am, and I'm proud of my

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Speaker 1: children as the life that I have created for myself.

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00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: And you know what, it's interesting to walk back into

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00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: the house the second time around, and not need it.

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00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: I needed it when I was twenty six, and I

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00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: didn't need I don't need it now, you know what

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00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's kind of it's kind of a weird

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00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: emotionally described. So I think that you will find that

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00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: too with with Jess, you know, like it's so nice

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00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: to be like with someone who is normal, you know,

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Speaker 1: And Okay, and we'll keep exciting. We will, we will exciting.

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00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: And yes, I would say Jess as normal most of

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00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, like most of the time. Let's be honest. Well, um,

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00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: so what are you doing now? I know that you

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00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: just filmed this reunion and you've got your cute little

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00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: kiddos and your husband, and what do you do? Do

1077
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: you have any free time or is that most of

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00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: your time? Are you not a summer I do not

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00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: have a lot of free time time. I feel like

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00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: a place that I'm in right now. I wear like

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00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: twenty seven hats, but I'm super happy doing it. But

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00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: most of the time, on the inside, it feels like

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00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: pure chaos to me. Um, I am a mom. I

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00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: like love being home with my kids and being able

1085
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: to love them, and I have a real job that

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00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: I work, and then on the side, I have created

1087
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: this web series with a very good friend of mine

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00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 1: called Moms and Cars. And I don't know if you guys,

1089
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: I just I can't remember how old you are. But

1090
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: like back in the day, we watched t G I

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00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: f like Friday and Night No, And did you ever

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00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 1: see the show step by Step? Yes? I have seen

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00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,479
Speaker 1: that show. Okay, So Christine Laken played Al on Step

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00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: by Step and we became friends ten years ago. On

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00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: my first tour to Iraq, I was like a huge

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00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: fan of hers and I did not know this, but

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00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: she's be a huge fan of mine. She's been obsessed

1098
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: with The Bachelor from day one. And so the second

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00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: we sat down on the plane, we're on this like

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00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: we're on this like C seventeen and we're in like

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00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: kevlars and we've got all this body gear on and

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00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: we're going over like in the middle of Baghdad, and

1103
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: she's like, all right, so listen, I like love the Bachelorette.

1104
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: I have about ten questions and I need to ask you.

1105
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: And it was like love at first sight for the

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00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: two of us. So, um, she is a mom and

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00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: she has two kids, and we have been friends every since.

1108
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: And we just started doing this funny thing on social

1109
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: media a couple of years ago where we just like

1110
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: did weird mom stuff in our car, like because you

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00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 1: don't see a whole month time and so we would

1112
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: just like sit in her car and read books or

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00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: play on our phone, or eat pizza without our kids

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00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: begging first slice, you know. And we just started putting

1115
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: it on social media and I was kind of like,

1116
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's something a pretty funny show. We should

1117
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: we should roughly, but she was like, yeah, who all

1118
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: do it? And so we have this web series called

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00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: Moms and Cars and we just do the dumb stuff

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00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: that mom's do in their car to find piece of

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00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: quiet away from their family and get a little bit

1122
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: of alone time. So we've had a lot of funny

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00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: guests in the car, and most recently Ali Satowski was

1124
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: in the car and we did we planned a fantasy

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00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: suite for Christine and her husband in the trunk of

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00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: her very small suv. And so I cannot wait to

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00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: put that out there because it's funny, but it just

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00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: I have found so much joy in parenthood and being

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00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: a mom, and I think that there is you know,

1130
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: a lot of really awesome things about being a parent,

1131
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: But I also feel like I'm really real about it too.

1132
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: How do people watch your that web series? They can

1133
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: find everything on Instagram. We are at Moms and Cars. Yeah,

1134
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: we didn't want people to have to go to Facebook

1135
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: to find a video or do YouTube. We wanted everybody

1136
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: to be able to come to one platform and find everything.

1137
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: So we put all of our full link videos on

1138
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: Instagram TV, and then just some of the dumb stuff

1139
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: that Christine and I do, we just put it right

1140
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: on our feed, you know. And it can be anything

1141
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: from like picking a nap in the car to like

1142
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: binge eating our kids Halloween candy, you know. But we

1143
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: just wanted everything to live in one space so that

1144
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: people weren't hunting around trying to find it. That they

1145
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: can find it all on Instagram at Moms and Cars,

1146
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: And it's just a lot of fun. It's a lot

1147
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: of fun, But I feel like there's a real part

1148
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: about being a parent. It's exhausting and it is tiring,

1149
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: and you are pouring into these children all day long

1150
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: because they need it, and at the end of the

1151
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: day you're wiped. Man, Like there's no there's no like

1152
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: glorious bit of that that is like always super fun.

1153
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: The best thing I love in life right now, and

1154
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: I think there's a huge market for it, and I

1155
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: just think it's really needed. Is authentic, genuine entertainment, and

1156
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: Dana exactly what it is. We'll make sure to check

1157
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: it out. Hey, Uh, we have to get going, and

1158
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: I know you do as well because you are a

1159
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: mom and you've got a lot of things going on. Uh, Jana,

1160
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: I would love to have you back on the podcast

1161
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: soon to talk about all these little things that you're doing,

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00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: and also a yes, we do all right. Well I'm

1163
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Let me come in and sit in

1164
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: with you guys, please do We would love that. I

1165
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: would love that, dude, I can at least like put

1166
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: some makeup on and get dressed for the day. I

1167
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: would feel really good about mything. Else anything else. We're

1168
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: pretty strong with ath leisure around here, so it's fine. Yanna,

1169
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, appreciate you. Hey, thank you so much. Ben,

1170
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm super happy for you and Jess. Thanks to lot, guys.

1171
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: Thank you by bye. So, I got a really good

1172
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: eating plan when it comes to, you know, getting tighter

1173
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 1: for my wedding. But for a while there, I wasn't

1174
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,040
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1175
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: you have like an hour just like chill on the couch,

1176
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: you don't want to be like, Okay, I should go

1177
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: drive for the gym, or I should go book that class. No.

1178
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Speaker 1: love the extend Bar with Andrea Rogers. She helps me

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Speaker 1: lose the weight sculptural lean muscle, which I really want

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Speaker 1: right now. It's more about like sculpting and looking toned

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Speaker 1: um and it also helps me build the strength without

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Speaker 1: the bulk because I can't stand when my arms get

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Speaker 1: too bulky from weightlifting. It's a mix of cardio plates

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Speaker 1: Famous to thirty thirty thirty Caroline. Hello, it's Amy, Ben

1213
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: and Ashley's producer and crazily Ben. How are you so? Ben?

1214
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: Just jumped on a plane, and so because he can't

1215
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: do times, because he can't do time zones, he thought

1216
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: his flight was later, but it's right now, and Ashley's

1217
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: off this week. So you're really talking to me and

1218
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: Ben's girlfriend Jessica Clark. Hey, Caroline, Alright, So it's a

1219
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: really really um exciting because we have none of our

1220
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: hosts here, but we're just making it work and you

1221
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: can call me back later if you need me too,

1222
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: But I'm totally happy to hang out and talk to you you. No,

1223
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: we want to, we want to, we want to do

1224
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: it now. And so I'll just say that Caroline is

1225
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: one of my favorites because Caroline is a salty gal

1226
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: and I love a salty gal who's not afraid to

1227
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 1: say what she thinks and pop off when it's necessary.

1228
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: And and even though maybe some Instagram commenters might not

1229
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: love it, deep down inside, we're all saying, yeah, I

1230
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: pretty much think exactly what she's saying. So can you

1231
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: explain for people listening who might not remember, explain what

1232
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: your Bachelor season was and then how you ended up

1233
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: on Bachelor in Paradise, Australia. Okay, so I don't First

1234
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: of all, I don't know whether to be offended. But

1235
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: also I kind of like nod in my head is

1236
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: like yeah, okay with the salty thinks, I'm like, I

1237
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: don't I was like all salty. I don't know if

1238
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: that's the how salty is, but I think a complimented word,

1239
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: and I am salty, and I have to deal with

1240
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people saying I hate you. But then

1241
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: I think that's okay because well, the thing for me

1242
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: is is like I just am who I am, and

1243
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to say whatever I'm gonna say. And sometimes

1244
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: I say too much and sometimes I I'm I just

1245
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: like I just don't know how to filter it, Like

1246
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: I can't keep it all straight. Like I just I

1247
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: just say whatever whatever I'm thinking, and some people hate

1248
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: me for it, and some people think I'm like obnoxious

1249
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: an extra but they're right and I am so I'm

1250
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: too old. But how y'all young kids use the word extra,

1251
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: So does extra mean? Like what does it mean? Um?

1252
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: I just like I'm just I'm just a very like excited,

1253
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: over the top person sometimes. Um and like I just

1254
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, I don't know how to like

1255
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: reel it in. Just what Jess is young too. What

1256
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: does extra mean for old people listening? I think actually

1257
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I have over the top. So yeah,

1258
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: on Saturday I posted like a video on my Instagram

1259
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: story of this and it just said extra on it

1260
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: because my friend had on oversized heart shaped sunglasses with

1261
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: her designer bag and she was like lip sinking in

1262
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: the car and like literally just over the top, like

1263
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: I've never seen. It doesn't even have to be like

1264
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: designer or whatever. It's just that you are. Just you say,

1265
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: you're all kinds of extra right now? Would that would

1266
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: that work if I said it, you're all kinds of

1267
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: extra right now? Um? Hang on, I'm not, I'm Urban

1268
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 1: Dictionary it let me see. Yeah, I think it would

1269
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: just like to hint, like do you what are you doing?

1270
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: That's extra? You know it's the Urban Dictionary says over

1271
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: the top, excessive dramatic behavior, way too much, the way

1272
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: too much. Yeah, I'm like okay, So then they go

1273
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: back to it, how do we know you? And then

1274
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: how did you get to Australia? Um, so you know

1275
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: me from ari season of The Bachelor, but um, you

1276
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: probably don't know me from there because I was not

1277
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: there very long. Um, I don't really care for Ari,

1278
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: and like you kind of get in there, and you

1279
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: get in there and you're hoping that you're gonna have

1280
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: this great connection with the person, and it takes a

1281
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: while through you like actually spend time with that person

1282
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: and get to know them. And I got to a

1283
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: point where I'm like, yeah, like this isn't this isn't

1284
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna be like my guy, Like this isn't him. And

1285
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: then I went home. But I think I'm better known

1286
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: for being honestly like a gal pal like Becca and

1287
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: TIA's like friend. Honestly, I feel like I kind of

1288
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: knew you from the Women Tell All. I feel like

1289
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: you sort of stood out maybe at the Women Tell All.

1290
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: Well yeah so, and everyone thinks I was the most

1291
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: extra at that, but and I was. But the thing

1292
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: with that is that Ari had fussed over my friend

1293
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: and everyone was like, oh my gosh, like you did

1294
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: not need to like say that or do that. And

1295
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: they're like if your girlfriend gets over by a guy

1296
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: and you know about it, and the public didn't know,

1297
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: like and they wouldn't know what had happened, because like

1298
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: a lot happens actually like in real life behind closed

1299
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: doors and off camera that like people don't see and

1300
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: I knew and I had seen it, and so for

1301
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: me when the producers gave me, like the producers literally

1302
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: were like one of my producers came in my room.

1303
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: I think she goes, We're gonna let you say something, TORII,

1304
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, yes, like at that moment, like

1305
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: if you want to confront the bad guy and have

1306
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: that like you know why moment, like you're gonna go

1307
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: for it. And I went for it, and it is

1308
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: what it is. So see, that doesn't sound extra to me.

1309
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: That sounds just like being a loyal friend, Like any

1310
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: of my friends would do that too, if I if

1311
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: a guy had mistreated me. Yeah, so I don't. I

1312
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: don't really care that people want to call me extra.

1313
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: But like I honestly, it's not that it was scripted,

1314
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 1: but I had a script of what like I was

1315
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: allowed to say, like because I I wanted to say

1316
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: I wanted to call him out, but I wasn't allowed

1317
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: to obviously say too much and spoil the ending. So

1318
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: like I had planned what I was going to say

1319
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: to him the whole time, like you know what I mean, Like,

1320
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: so I knew what was going to be said so,

1321
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: and then I also got the flu in the middle

1322
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: of the tell All, so like I looked like I

1323
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: was crying. I just was. I I had a flu.

1324
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: So it's a little known fact that there was a

1325
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,799
Speaker 1: tell All I can't remember for who where Chris Harrison

1326
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: had to keep going back to his dressing room and

1327
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: throwing up. He was so yeah, and they had to

1328
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: keep taking breaks. He was so sick, had like the

1329
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: worst flu, but fought through it but had to keep

1330
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: like going back. Okay, I'm learning there's a lot of

1331
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: like vomiting that happens on this show. I'm not that

1332
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: he actually like fully vomited, but I know he was

1333
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: very very ill, and I'll ask him if he actually

1334
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: did vomit. Okay, well, like they had a tapeworm. Yeah,

1335
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: that's last night. Yes, Ben had a tapeworm his entire season.

1336
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: Jess can explain more. But yeah, he was like ill

1337
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: the whole season. Yeah, so whenever we were in Honduras,

1338
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: he was like because he got his tapeworm in Honduras,

1339
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: whenever he swam in the water. And so we went

1340
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: to wherever like we thought that he had gotten it from,

1341
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: and everyone was like, who's going to jump in, but

1342
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: no one did, and Ben was in a bubble the

1343
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: entire time you guys were there because he was traumatized. Um,

1344
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 1: that's funny you say that, because I think it was

1345
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: either Becca or Tilla. They joked the whole time that

1346
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: they thought they had a tape worm. I think it

1347
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: was Becca, but like the whole time, like we were

1348
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,440
Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, she was just like, oh, my tapeworm,

1349
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: and I just was like, oh, no, wait, do you

1350
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: actually have one? Th Like, like I think Ben had

1351
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: a stomach ache his entire season. Basically, it's it's emotionally exhausting,

1352
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: and I was only there for a month. So like

1353
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: the people who are there the whole time and actually

1354
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: are like really in the thick of it. I don't

1355
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: know how you do it because you are running on

1356
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: minimal sleep. So like you get, if you're lucky, like

1357
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 1: four hours of sleep of a night, like and I

1358
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: need more than that would not work for me, Nope. Yeah. So,

1359
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: like you come home really late from your dates and

1360
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: then they make you do interviews and then they kind

1361
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: of I feel like they want you to be tired

1362
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,879
Speaker 1: and they want you to be like super cranky and irritable.

1363
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: Because that's where they get the good ship from you,

1364
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: because your guard is down and you're tired, and like

1365
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: you'll just say all the bit things and you're I

1366
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: just feel like it's like this. Really, they're really good

1367
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: at creating this environment where you you are just like

1368
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: I don't care, I don't know. I'm tired and I

1369
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: want to sleep. You know, wonder people act a little

1370
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 1: um for lack of a better word, nuts because they

1371
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: don't have any sleep. Well, I think that they do

1372
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: it on purpose because they know that pat what it

1373
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: gets us to be like nuts, Like, I think that

1374
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: they know how to play on our human necessities and

1375
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: all that happened to use it against us. But uh so, yeah,

1376
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: so anyway, how did you end up in Australia? Yeah,

1377
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: this is wild alright the Bachelor in Australia. Neither did I,

1378
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: and then so I went on the Badchelom Paradise US

1379
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,839
Speaker 1: and I didn't like it just because again lack of sleep.

1380
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: Mexico was hot as balls, Like it's so hot, there's

1381
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: no air conditioning, there's no fans, there's like it's just

1382
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: too much is happening. Like I would take like a

1383
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: cold shower, like every day, Like I just kept the

1384
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: water on ice cold and it still wasn't enough to

1385
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: cool you down. And then I obviously came into Paradise

1386
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: and I was really awkward and I didn't know what

1387
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: I was doing and I just was like it was

1388
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: a very really I like I want to say embarrassing,

1389
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: but like it is what it is, Like I just

1390
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: didn't I wasn't cool when I walked into Paradise. I

1391
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: had zero game, and I like to remember that who

1392
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: did you date there? Did you go on any dates?

1393
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: I went on a date with Venmo John and then

1394
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: we just met him. He s a nice guy, like nice, yeah,

1395
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: but the thing is is like he like wasn't my

1396
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: person and um yeah, and the thing is I knew

1397
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: it and then um, so then he went on a

1398
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: date with Jubilee. And Jubilee actually um is from Fort

1399
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: Lauderdale where I live now, and she had gone on

1400
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: a date date with like or something along those lines

1401
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: with my ex boyfriend who like like was like the

1402
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: guy that like I really loved, you know, you used

1403
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: some exs and your lengman or whatever, so she like

1404
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: dated him like right after him and I broke up,

1405
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: and the girls like my top bunk in Paradise, Like

1406
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: what are the odds that my two worlds are going

1407
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 1: to collide like this in this very small, strange little

1408
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 1: way like that, Like I don't really know how that happens,

1409
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: but it does. The universe is telling you something. I'm

1410
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: just not sure what. I'm not sure either, but like

1411
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: it was just like this thing in there, like up cool,

1412
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: like yeah, this is so fun, like of all the things,

1413
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: like she's my top bunk in paradise. Did it didn't

1414
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to make it a thing like, um,

1415
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: I respect my X like too much, like he my

1416
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: X as a hockey player and so like I didn't

1417
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: want to put his name out there. I didn't want

1418
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: to have him be like I didn't want there to

1419
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know what drama could go down. So it

1420
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 1: wasn't like no, she knew, she knew exactly who I was, yeah,

1421
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 1: and she she like thought that there was some weird

1422
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: like overlap with us or something, and I just I'm like, no, no, no,

1423
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 1: we were we were broken up like yeah, so m

1424
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: hmm yep, And I just was like I just want

1425
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: to go home, like yeah, And that one was not

1426
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: for me so I was like, you know what, I

1427
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: Paradise is not in the cards for me. That's not

1428
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: something I would ever do again, unless that there was

1429
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 1: someone on there who I was like, oh my god,

1430
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: like I really like this person and I want to

1431
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: shoot my shot, unless it was in Australia. But so

1432
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: then the Aussie lady reaches out to me, and all

1433
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: my old rules are out the window. Because have you

1434
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: ever seen the Hemsworth brothers, Like they are like by

1435
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: Like William Hemsworth is like in my top five, Like

1436
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: he's probably like someone when someone says like, what's your

1437
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,919
Speaker 1: dream man, I'm I'm I'm along the lines of William Hemsworth.

1438
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 1: So I mean, are there's these, are these There's gonna

1439
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: be a paradise keep a million William Hemsworth Like, um,

1440
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: I'm in. And of course I get all the way

1441
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: there and I end up with the Americans, so like whatever,

1442
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. Wait, so do they usually have Americans in

1443
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: Australia or is this like anything? They're China. So they

1444
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: had Grant who was an American and actually I think

1445
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: Jared Um like Ashley and Jared's you know what I mean,

1446
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: Like Jared, but he didn't last last year, right, right,

1447
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: he did it last year. Um, he's very much engaged

1448
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: as you guys know this year. So um. So we

1449
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 1: have an email from Stephanie and she says, I was

1450
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: wondering if you guys have been watching B I P Australia.

1451
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: So this is how we learned about this. And if

1452
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: you saw that Alex from Rachel's season and Caroline from

1453
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: ri season have seemed to make a connection, please discuss.

1454
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 1: So we're bringing this right to you, Stephanie. So Caroline

1455
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: discuss And who's Alex? All right? So Alex bordacause um

1456
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: is are some people call Russian? Alex was Yes Rachel's

1457
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: season of the he's really good buddies with Dean, Yes,

1458
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: yeah he is, and and uh like Peter and well

1459
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 1: if I forget, but yeah, he's dark hair for people

1460
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: that are getting their memories refreshed and can't google quickly enough,

1461
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: he has dark hair and he is super tight with me.

1462
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: Has like, as the obvious call it, he's like a

1463
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 1: rig or like he's got like a rig or something.

1464
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the whole Audie terms. I'm still feeling

1465
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: like a dumb American, but like basically he is all

1466
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: of these things that are a rig to know. He

1467
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: like his body is in fame, and I feel like

1468
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: that's what most people know him as, this like the

1469
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: gorgeous chiseled demigod. Yeah, so what can you tell us?

1470
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: What's happening? And what can you tell us? Um? So,

1471
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Paradise happened, and I get all the way

1472
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 1: to Paradise and I took Um. The thing that's crazy

1473
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: about Bachelor in Paradise Australia is they have like an

1474
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: they had their old bachelor on the show, and I

1475
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: really like the way that they kind of the people

1476
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: that they bring in the way that they do it,

1477
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: and then the fact that they have like imports come in.

1478
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: But they had a bachelor who was on Bachelor in

1479
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: Paradise and his like girl that he chose and was

1480
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: engaged to or whatever they were, like they both were

1481
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: in Paradise. Imagine that. Like so that's literally like having

1482
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: Vanessa Grimaldi and Nick File like go to Paradise together

1483
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: like wild like so there was that whole drama and stuff.

1484
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: So I took that guy on a date. Turned out

1485
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 1: he Um was already with like coupled up with somebody else.

1486
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: So that was super fun. And let's cut to the chim.

1487
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 1: Can you tell us if you and Alex are still talking?

1488
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,839
Speaker 1: Alex and I, um, we didn't go into the commitment

1489
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 1: ceremony that they have. We just chose to leave Paradise

1490
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: together like early, like it didn't feel natural for us

1491
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: to have a commitment ceremony. And then like a week

1492
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: later he came down to Florida and you know, we

1493
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: we dated a little bit. You know, I took him

1494
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 1: on a one on one date and finally, because he'd

1495
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: never been on one, so I like, I called my

1496
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: producer and I would like, help me make a cute,

1497
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: cheeky date card. And I took him snort, lying, and

1498
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: I like got got tea sick and he threw up

1499
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: over the boat. All people just a bunch of that.

1500
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: This was off camera. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was

1501
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: real life date. But like I made a date card

1502
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 1: in real life, you know, to make it to kind

1503
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: of go along. It's a team of us stupid. So

1504
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 1: he dated for a little while and then he came

1505
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: back to Massachusetts and like met my family and like

1506
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: had my birthday and like New Year's in Boston with

1507
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,759
Speaker 1: me and my family and then so like I struggle

1508
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: with really bad depression and anxiety and it got really

1509
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: bad there for a little while, and um I got

1510
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: to a point where like I just like really need

1511
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: to like work on myself, and um, you know what

1512
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean. Like sometimes like you're like I'm not in

1513
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: a place to be in a relationship and I just

1514
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: just like having all this anxiety. And he like said

1515
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: to me one day on the phone, He's like, yeah,

1516
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't really know. Uh. He's like like,

1517
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 1: do you see this like turning into like a real relationship.

1518
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: And I honestly like like it kind of caught me

1519
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: off guard just come out with that, Like it was

1520
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: very direct. He's a very very direct with the Russian

1521
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 1: in him. He was very directing. Yeah, Like I just

1522
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: like I don't know if I see is like turning

1523
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: into a real relationship. I'm like, oh my god, like

1524
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: me neither. And I had this like weight like lifted

1525
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: off my chest. Is the opposite of what a lot

1526
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: of women feel, but it's good for you. Well, like yeah,

1527
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: I mean I think like so many times women we

1528
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: like we really want relationships to work, and we like

1529
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: push at it, push out and like really try and

1530
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: try and try to make something work. But at the

1531
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's like sometimes like and on

1532
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: paper like everything like he's a great guy, like super awesome,

1533
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: but um it's sometimes it's just it's not all the

1534
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: way there. And I have nothing but like love and

1535
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 1: respect and everything for Alex, but like he's not my person.

1536
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: And we realized that and it was really weird because

1537
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,759
Speaker 1: we had this conversation where we realized that it wasn't

1538
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: going to move forward and be something um like super

1539
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: like serious, and it's like it gets it's it's weird

1540
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: because you have this moment where you're like, now what

1541
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: And we just kept talking to each other, and we

1542
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: kept seeing each other and kept hanging out, and like

1543
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 1: he even came to Florida, um like after the fact,

1544
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: and it's just it's weird. It's like a weird thing.

1545
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: Would you say your friends now or do you feel

1546
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: like maybe the timing you never know? No, no, no no,

1547
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: we're just friends and like just like it sounds like

1548
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: you just appreciate each other as people and you want

1549
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: to keep each other in y'all's lives, but it doesn't

1550
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 1: have to be romantic and quickly before you know, when

1551
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: you acknowledge this didn't help the anxiety. Yeah, yeah, Like

1552
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: the thing is is like sometimes like you just need

1553
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: to like you know, I think there's so much pressure.

1554
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just me myself whatever, but

1555
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: like especially as like a woman in her late twenties,

1556
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: like oh, you like have to like sign somebody, like

1557
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: every my sister's engaged unless someone like everyone's like, oh,

1558
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: like your time will come, don't worry, and I'm like,

1559
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: excuse me, shut up, and then like I know, like

1560
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: I know my time will come. But like I think

1561
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: there's something so important and powerful about remembering that, like

1562
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: it's okay to like take some time for yourself and

1563
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: to be alone, Like you don't always need to be

1564
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: in a relationship. Like like I can call Alex like

1565
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: if I'm having like anxiety tech or if I need

1566
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: someone to talk to, and like he'll be there, but

1567
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: like as a friend and like he's just like he's

1568
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: just like an awesome person. And sometimes like it's okay

1569
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: just to like respect people and for like the chapter

1570
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 1: that they were in your book, but it's okay that

1571
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: they're not the whole thing. Yeah, I think what you're

1572
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: saying is so true, and I think, Um, you don't

1573
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: have to put every relationship in like a category or

1574
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: a box that people create. It can be something that's

1575
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: totally unique or different. And if he helps with your

1576
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: anxiety or it even helps you lower the anxiety to

1577
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: a I'm not ready for this, I can't do this, Yeah,

1578
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: I think that's really um And it's so it's so

1579
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: wild because I think, like who I am, Like I'm

1580
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: just like, oh, let me like work at this, like

1581
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,759
Speaker 1: it'll like things will get better and you keep pushing

1582
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: at something. And then he brought it up to me

1583
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: like yeah, like I just don't know if I see

1584
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: this like turney into relationship and I can't even begin

1585
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 1: to tell you, like the weight that was lifted, And

1586
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: it's so wild to be like that's okay, Like you

1587
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: don't have to have every relationship be your husband, Like

1588
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be that way. And then also

1589
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: every breakup doesn't need to be ugly, and I think

1590
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: that that's so important for us all to remember and

1591
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: just like having like a healthy relationship where you respect

1592
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: and appreciate what it was in your life. It's like

1593
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: your body and your subconscious knew something that hadn't gotten

1594
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: to your brain yet, Like your brain was still kind

1595
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: of like, oh, I think I need this relationship and

1596
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: I want this to work. I'm gonna try to make

1597
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: this work, but your body was giving you all this

1598
01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: anxiety and stress and whatever to say hey, maybe not

1599
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: or maybe not right now. It's so funny because like

1600
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 1: I tweeted something and I was like, hey, guys, like sorry,

1601
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: like I need a minute. Like I'm like I was

1602
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: really outsent for social media for a bit and I'm

1603
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: like I need a minute. Like I'm going through a thing.

1604
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: And all the people who like had like caught onto

1605
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: Alex and BENI. I'm like, oh my god, he dumped her,

1606
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: and like they're like, I'm like I can see you

1607
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: guys tweeting and writing about this ship, but like all right,

1608
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: but and I'm like it's so funny how people just

1609
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: assume certain tweets have to do with like Bachelor of

1610
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: Life or about a boyfriend or about dating, and I'm like,

1611
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: not everything has to be about like the Bachelor or

1612
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: about dating. It's like the thing that I was going

1613
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: through was that I suffered extreme anxiety. And it's like

1614
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: for me sometimes like I'm just happy if I like

1615
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: literally get up and brush my teeth that day, Like

1616
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They're like, you're not alone, Caroline.

1617
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: That's something I want you to know. Like, and this

1618
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: this interview took a turn because we thought it was

1619
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: going to go in a different direction, but like, which

1620
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: is a good thing. You're not alone. And I think

1621
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: if you kind of have that moment where you just say,

1622
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 1: I might not have the perfect boyfriend or the perfect job,

1623
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: or the perfect this or the perfect that, but I

1624
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: feel okay right now, and you know, that is really

1625
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: important and I think people listening can relate to it.

1626
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to jump on a side topic,

1627
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: but if people want to reach out to Benn and

1628
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: Ashley about this, we would love to hear from you.

1629
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: And their email is what is their email? East and

1630
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley at I heart radio dot com, Benn

1631
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: and Ashley at I heart radio dot com. Because it

1632
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: is a really important thing. And I think, you know,

1633
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: good for you to acknowledge anxiety and all that. It's

1634
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: been the best that's honestly been one of the best

1635
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: things for me has been talking about it. And um,

1636
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: not I'm being extra or like I want attention. But

1637
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 1: like the thing is when I talk about it, it's

1638
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: like helps me like heal a little bit. And also

1639
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: it feel like I feel like whenever I talk about it,

1640
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: it gives like I've been given this gitch of like

1641
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: a cool like I have a platform here and I'm

1642
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: able to talk about this. And when I hear like

1643
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 1: people like Selena Gomez like talk about her anxiety and

1644
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: the things that she went through, it made me feel

1645
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: like I wasn't alone. So if I can talk about

1646
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,480
Speaker 1: it and be that voice and like use my platforms

1647
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: to maybe like make one person feel better, Like I

1648
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: just feel like that was like the reason that God

1649
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: gave me like this. I think so too platforms talking

1650
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: about it takes the power away from it, which I

1651
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: think is oh totally. It is really powerful. You know,

1652
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: when you talk about it, it lessens it. So keep

1653
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: talking about it, and we would love to have you

1654
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,879
Speaker 1: back to talk about it more. I had no idea. Uh,

1655
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: and the something else really smiff I want to talk about.

1656
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: So um if people want to um watch Bachelor in Paradise,

1657
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: there's a huge um thing that happens on the show

1658
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: with one of the guys he was super super possessive,

1659
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: and I just again like to use this platform and

1660
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: voice to kind of shed some light on some things.

1661
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: Um and this is Bathel in Paradise, Australia, Australia. Yeah,

1662
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: so from episode like I think it's like episode like six, seven, eight,

1663
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 1: maybe even like nine something along those lines, there's this

1664
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: guy a Van who was like obsessed with my friend Tamil,

1665
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 1: and Tamil is like a ten I get it, like

1666
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: she's like I get wanting to be obsessed with her.

1667
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: She's she's a smoke show. But um, yeah, he presented

1668
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: some really really unhealthy possessive behavior, and I think it's

1669
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: really important for women and and men to go and

1670
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: watch the way that he handle himself in the way

1671
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 1: that he acted, because we oftentimes like don't realize how

1672
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: bad something is in the moment because you're like, oh,

1673
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: but like they're a good guy, like you don't mean

1674
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: it like that, but they present all these terrible toxic

1675
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: masculinity kind of behaviors and we get trapped in a

1676
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: really really unhealthy relationship. So just I mean a lot

1677
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: of states can watch b I P Australia, So there's

1678
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: like a bunch of like illegal like ways to watch

1679
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: it here. But allegedly she didn't say that. We don't

1680
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 1: condone that. We don't condone no, but so there's something

1681
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: that I found. It is really hard to watch here,

1682
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: but so self henvy TV so s O U T

1683
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: H h E M I TV dot com was the

1684
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: best way for me to have everybody watch it. Okay, um,

1685
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: but I that's how I shared it with my followers. Okay,

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01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: that's great. I think it pops up on my um

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01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: like smart TV sometimes that there is a way to

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01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: watch it because I think when Sophie Monk was the Bachelorette,

1689
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 1: we were able to watch it here. So we'll we'll

1690
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: kind of do some googling to figure out how to

1691
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: watch it too. Yeah. Sorry, I wish I had, Like

1692
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: it was really hard. Um, Like I don't even know

1693
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: how to watch my own show. Like this is weird.

1694
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 1: Now people are figuring it out because we're getting a

1695
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: lot of emails about you. So hang in there and

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01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: we really appreciate you sharing your story. Sorry you mamatic,

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01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 1: but I just yes, that's the that's the deal. Like

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01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: Alex and I posted about our little parting of ways. Um,

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01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: but like him and I are. We still like send

1700
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: each other memes and like, you know, we're fine like

1701
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: and um, you know, nothing but love and respect for

1702
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: each other. And that's that. Well, Caroline, thanks for sharing

1703
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: your story and we'll be in touch and talk again soon. Yeah,

1704
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: thank you, talk to you. Have a good one too.

1705
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 1: They're kicking Jess out of the studio. Well it'll be

1706
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 1: just me, So Jess go and then I'll say goodbye

1707
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: to everybody. You're the best, all right, Thanks for being

1708
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 1: so open with everybody too, Jess. You're the best, of course,

1709
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,560
Speaker 1: of course. And one week time today, one week from today, Bachelorette,

1710
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: and Jess is going to have to watch every episode.

1711
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe I'll start my own recap show. Hey,

1712
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 1: don't compete with us. You can come on here is okay,

1713
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: talk to you soon. I'll see you soon, see you okay, bye,

1714
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: so Easter. Hey, Amy, we have no Ben, we have

1715
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: no Ashley, we have no Jess, we have no bachelor

1716
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 1: celebrities of any any kind. I think you and I

1717
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 1: are pretty bod bachelor's celebrities. At I've been Amy, and

1718
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: I've been East, and I've been been Hey, it's been here.

1719
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: I just called back into the podcast because I listened

1720
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: back to the segment with Amy and Jessica, and I

1721
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 1: just want to reiterate how proud I am of my girlfriend,

1722
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 1: jess and and also from the almost famous podcast and

1723
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: all of the listeners out there, and Amy and Easton

1724
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: and Mark and myself and Tori and you know and

1725
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 1: everybody works on the podcast and Ashley. Jessica, thank you. Um.

1726
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: This is a weird world and we've talked about it

1727
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 1: many times, and I think today's podcast really did highlight

1728
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:51,799
Speaker 1: how odd it is when you date somebody post Bachelor.

1729
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: It's not easy, um, but I want to believe that

1730
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 1: builds a character in the strength in the relationship that

1731
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 1: will last long time. So Jessica, thank you. Thank you

1732
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 1: for answering the hard questions. Thank you for being open

1733
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: and honest and vulnerable with our listeners. That's why they

1734
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: listen and that's why they want to be a part

1735
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: of this. Jessica. I want to bring you back on soon.

1736
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: But from the bottom of my heart, thank you, thank you,

1737
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: thank you. UM. Also thank you to Amy for filling

1738
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,799
Speaker 1: in as I jumped on a fight back to Denver

1739
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: and as mentioned before, this week was the start of

1740
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 1: the next Bachelor at season. It's gonna be a master season.

1741
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm still pumped for Hannah be uh. This is gonna

1742
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: be something the season to remember. Also, I want to

1743
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: tease a little conversation well up next week. The last

1744
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: three days of my life and I'm still recovering, so

1745
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to talk about it yet. I've been

1746
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 1: in a play and the musical Greece back in Maryon,

1747
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: Indiana with a foundation called c Essay. It was for

1748
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 1: my cousin jor Year. I have so many stories, so

1749
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 1: many crazy experiences in the last three days. I cannot

1750
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 1: wait to tell you all about. Make sure you tune

1751
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 1: in next week to breakdown Hannah's first episode Road and

1752
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: my time as Bence Fontaine. Yeah been Fontaine on Greece. Anyways, Hey,

1753
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. Like I said, I've been been

1754
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: and thanks for listening once again to Almost First podcast.

1755
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: Follow the Bennon Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart

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