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Speaker 2: Well, first and foremost, watch party, Ephram and Willard is

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Speaker 2: back on a Sunday night, ladies and gentlemen. The second

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Speaker 3: It feels like is about to tip off and we're

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Speaker 2: Game two between the Celtics and the Mavericks is upon us.

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Speaker 2: But of course that's not what the world's talking about today. Also, Ephraim,

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Speaker 2: for what feels like the fourth or fifth weekend in

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Speaker 2: the world is again talking about Caitlin Clark. So, first

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Speaker 2: and foremost, good evening to you.

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Speaker 3: My brother. How are we doing? I'm good man. How

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Speaker 3: you doing? I'm doing fantastic.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like this is maybe the most relatable

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Speaker 2: thing we could say about this is every single person

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Speaker 2: listening to our voices is, at one time or another,

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Speaker 2: I would think, worked for a company, and often as

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Speaker 2: an employee, you feel like your company is faced with

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Speaker 2: this conundrum, do we do the right thing or do

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Speaker 2: we do the financial companies pick the financial thing, And

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Speaker 2: this one's interesting to me. I do have an opinion,

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Speaker 2: but this is one of those where I do see

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Speaker 2: both sides. Caitlin Clark is not on team USA if that's.

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Speaker 3: The wrong financial thing to do.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody in the world who would

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Speaker 2: argue that the women's five on five Olympic basketball tournament

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Speaker 2: would have a lot more attention if Caitlyn Clark were

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Speaker 2: on the team. However, it's not the right thing to do.

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Speaker 3: And it's not just.

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Speaker 2: Because there are twelve veterans who are better and she

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Speaker 2: wasn't at the Olympic trials and all of those things.

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Speaker 2: It's more so I always look at the Olympics. It's

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Speaker 2: hard to do this in basketball, but the Olympics are

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Speaker 2: something that you just flat out qualify for. Like if

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Speaker 2: we're in track and field, if you jumped the highest,

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Speaker 2: you on the team. I don't care what your name is.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't jump the highest, you're not on

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Speaker 2: the team. So this one's interesting to me. I don't

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Speaker 2: have it because it's the Olympics. I don't have an

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Speaker 2: issue with her not being on this team. By the

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Speaker 2: same token, I think we could all admit would have

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Speaker 2: been better for the Olympics if she was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have been, but you know, there's a

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Speaker 4: lot there's some people out here there like appalled and like,

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Speaker 4: how could they not put her on the Well, they're

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Speaker 4: in terms of best players available, would she be one

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Speaker 4: of the best players? I remember when the Dream Team

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Speaker 4: went and Shaq wasn't on it. Shaq was coming out

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Speaker 4: He was the first pick in the draft and all

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Speaker 4: that Christian Layner made it.

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Speaker 3: Kristen Lightner was exactly because he was still in college.

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Speaker 4: Right, So, I mean they both come out right like,

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Speaker 4: but they picked Christian Layightner over Shaquille O'Neill, which seemed

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Speaker 4: weird to everyone, But okay, it's not one of those

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Speaker 4: situations where I think they were like, oh, we're not

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Speaker 4: team now. I just think there were better options to

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Speaker 4: fill out a limited roster. I think this is probably

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Speaker 4: the best thing that could happen for Caitlyn Clark because

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Speaker 4: although the WNBA didn't see it wise to give her

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Speaker 4: they gave them the most luc ludicrous schedule yep. I

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Speaker 4: mean they played eleven games before most teams played seven eight.

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Speaker 2: Yes, seven or eight right, right? I wonder how many

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Speaker 4: No, not, not a lot of people, because a lot

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Speaker 4: attention to what's happening. You're forcing a rookie to hit

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Speaker 4: a wall in the first quarter of the season by

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Speaker 4: giving them eleven games. I believe they had five or

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Speaker 3: So uh yeah, there. This should be.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, a great opportunity because they're gonna play

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Speaker 4: off of that break when others are out still playing

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Speaker 4: second half of the season. So for me, I think

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Speaker 4: it's great for her. For the WNBA and marketing wise

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Speaker 3: To attack the world. Now.

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Speaker 4: We do have the best basketball women's basketball players on

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Speaker 4: the planet Earth, so for them in the Olympics, they

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Speaker 4: should be steamrolling people.

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Speaker 3: Our guys. On the other hand, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Well playing field done, like even out over the last decade.

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Speaker 2: On that front, I think everything you just said is

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Speaker 2: pretty spot on. This is probably the best thing for Caitlyn.

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Speaker 2: My god, this whole thing has just gotten It's gotten

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Speaker 2: too hot. He has gotten way too hot. It's too

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Speaker 2: much at a certain point, and I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: any way to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

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Speaker 2: But there are so many people that are now sort

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Speaker 2: of branding themselves as fans of Caitlyn Clark. Forget being

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Speaker 2: fans of women's basketball or even basketball, just fans of

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Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark. And I wonder how many of them realize,

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Speaker 2: Like you start to tension and pressure on one person,

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Speaker 2: there's a major drawback to the person that you're saying

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Speaker 2: you're a fan of. It just becomes too much. What

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Speaker 2: happens from I know you're a Hollywood person.

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Speaker 3: What happen?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean by that, But a lot

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Speaker 4: of people won't know what that means. Okay, a certain

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Speaker 4: connotation that goes with Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean you've got flowing hair in a convertible.

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Speaker 2: I like you, Okay, Entertainment industry, well beyond sports.

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Speaker 3: I'm in there, yes, yes, okay.

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Speaker 2: And so you know this, what happens Eight times out

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Speaker 3: It's not good. I could take you They've done on

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Speaker 2: And so I'm starting to feel this for Caitlin where

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Speaker 2: it's like, look, this is this has become there has

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Speaker 2: we're having social conversations, fairness conversations, race conversations. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: we're not gonna put the toothbases back in the tube.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to get concerned for whether or not this

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Speaker 2: just go be a baller. And so for from this

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Speaker 2: perspective for the Olympics, You're probably right it's probably good

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Speaker 2: for her to just set this one out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it'll It'll give people time to decompress

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Speaker 4: are you know, most people don't have, you know, context

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Speaker 4: I mean case in point, remember Drew Timmy very well,

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Speaker 4: I can tell you from Kazaga, good basketball team, good

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't get drafted. Right.

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Speaker 4: You look at Zach Edie, who's the two time basketball

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Speaker 4: likely won't be a lottery pick, right, So he was like, well,

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Speaker 4: why he dominated college? Yeah, because it's different when you

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Speaker 4: get to the pros. As good as Steph was in college,

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Speaker 4: It took more than a minute. And that's lost on

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Speaker 4: a lot of people because we're creatures of the moment.

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Speaker 4: First of all, they didn't know if Steph was going

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Speaker 4: to be able to even play. He had severe ankle

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Speaker 4: as a Bay Area guy, like it was just like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I mean, we ever get this guy help? So we

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Speaker 4: just are we just have the stepf his moments as

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Speaker 4: it took some time. It takes players times into to

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Speaker 4: unfairly dump all of this stuff on Kaitlyn Clark like

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Speaker 4: she's coming to save a league that was already going

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Speaker 4: for twenty five plus years. That's not fair to the

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Speaker 4: She just wants to play basketball and get paid for it,

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Speaker 4: well paid less for.

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Speaker 2: It, right right, She's getting paid for it on all

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Speaker 2: the places except for the WNBA. Yes, but yes, I'm

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Speaker 2: with you. I think we knew that this was going

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Speaker 2: I think she's a celebrity and she was prepared for

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Speaker 2: some of it. But all of this, it's it is

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Speaker 2: The extension of that, though, is the Olympics themselves, like

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Speaker 2: I do. Here's the funny side of it. To me,

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Speaker 2: I think anything that has like the words international or

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Speaker 3: Trust the organization. I'm like, that's corrupt.

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Speaker 2: You know, FIFA, I'm pretty sure one of the f

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Speaker 3: I don't even know. But I'm like, you're crooked. I

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Speaker 2: And I feel that way about Olympic committees globally because

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Speaker 2: we've watched all of the stuff that's going on behind

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Speaker 3: For you, this is one where you'd be like, God,

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Speaker 3: if you really had the dollar signs in mind, of

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Speaker 3: course you would have stuck Caitlin Clark on the team.

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Speaker 3: But they didn't.

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Speaker 2: So this is one of those where I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 2: good job, committee, federation, international organization.

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Speaker 3: Think I'm abob whatever you want to call yourself. Good job.

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Speaker 3: You probably did this the right way.

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Speaker 2: It's not the best financial thing, it's not gonna put

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Speaker 2: the most eyes on the Olympics, but but it's probably

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Speaker 4: It is the right thing to do because it's going

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Speaker 4: to benefit her the player. Right, She's not the w

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Speaker 4: and this is going to benefit her, which I think

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Speaker 4: is amazing because I'm pulling for I think we all

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Speaker 4: Angel Reese and the other young women who came into UH,

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Speaker 4: into this league and gino UH what is Rima had

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Speaker 4: very profound things to say and if anyone is an

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Speaker 4: of authorities to speak on that issue. He has some

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Speaker 4: very poignant things to say about Kaitlin Clark and the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: All Right with Apram salam Mark Weather look how adorable

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Speaker 2: our points are. I'll get to the bety over thing

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Speaker 3: But I mean, when else do we do that in sports?

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Speaker 3: Our behavior as fans suggest we don't give a rip. No.

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Speaker 4: I look, it's we talk about it because it's important

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Speaker 4: I think, I really literally think that they've definitely done

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Speaker 3: Money. We know on which one league's pick.

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Speaker 4: Yes, traditionally, traditionally it's the money. Yeah, it's always the money.

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Speaker 3: And that's not what happened here.

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Speaker 2: She played in the Olympics, but the profile would grow

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Speaker 4: What they need Caitlin Clark to do is be great

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Speaker 6: the delusional fan base that follows her disrespected the WNBA players,

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Speaker 6: There were actually odds like she's third or fourth em

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Speaker 4: by In no means did he or she or anybody

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Speaker 2: But you use those three letters MVP, And I went, oh,

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Speaker 7: guy is the first player since Tom Watson in nineteen

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Speaker 7: eighty to have won five times on the tour before

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Speaker 7: we even get to the US Open. And being a

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Speaker 7: signature event, can you guess the payout? It was equal

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Speaker 7: to a live golf event which took place in Houston

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Speaker 7: this weekend. Four million dollars. For that means that Scottie

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Speaker 7: Scheffler this season is over the twenty four million mark

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Speaker 7: in earnings on the course.

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Speaker 3: Damn.

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Speaker 7: He set the record last year for a full season

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Speaker 7: at twenty one mil. Already, not yet mid June, he

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Speaker 7: has broken the record. As for the actual payouts farther down,

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Speaker 7: believe it or not, they were guaranteeing that every player

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Speaker 7: inside the top twenty at the Memorial was going to

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Speaker 7: make a quarter million dollars, And in fact, a tie

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Speaker 7: for twentieth gets you about two hundred and sixty thousand

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Speaker 7: dollars at live golf. A tie for eighteenth got less

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Speaker 7: than that two thirty five. This is one Sunday where

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Speaker 7: we can actually say something about the pg Yeah, I

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Speaker 7: see you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, okay, well, and by the way, and any PGA

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Speaker 2: Tour player who thumbed their nose at Live Golf and

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Speaker 2: I understand why, but I don't think any of them

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Speaker 2: are going to give this money back.

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Speaker 3: That is clearly in response to what.

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Speaker 2: Living is doing. Say thanks yeah, thanks Ve, oh and

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Speaker 2: thanks tyrack dot com studios. Isn't that interesting? I mean

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Speaker 2: it had become a Sunday tradition where Steve comes in

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Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour and goes So somebody

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Speaker 2: won a PGA Tour event and they made forty seven dollars,

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Speaker 2: and then in a live event somebody finished in eighty

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Speaker 2: eighth place and they made a billion. Like that's what

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Speaker 2: it sounded like. That's what it sounds like every Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And then you you came in and.

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Speaker 7: You're like, yeah, pretty even three occurve. And by the way,

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Speaker 7: this is what you guys just reference. This is what

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Speaker 7: competition does. This is why you have more with more

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Speaker 7: than one gas station in your neighborhood. This is why

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Speaker 7: you have more than one restaurant. Is competition raises the bar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does monopolize it. So now they got to

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Speaker 4: really step up and they pay those purses and appearance fees,

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Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Man, you got to change it up.

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Speaker 2: We can get back to Gino Orima here in just

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Speaker 2: a few, but I do want to reference at least

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Speaker 2: for a minute.

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Speaker 3: And look, there's a.

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Speaker 2: Long way to go, and I could be right and

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Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but I had a big feeling

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Speaker 2: about the.

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Speaker 3: Over in tonight's game.

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Speaker 2: Reason being so in game one, and this is a

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Speaker 2: very simplistic way to bet, but I'm a pretty simplistic better.

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Speaker 3: Game one, the total was one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and ninety six points, right, one oh seven to

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Speaker 2: eighty nine, one hundred and ninety six points, and Luca

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Speaker 2: and Kyrie were terrible, and you figure that's not going

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Speaker 2: to continue. So maybe this is just a response to

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Speaker 2: people going, well, that's not going to happen again. But

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Speaker 2: the over under in tonight's game was two fifteen I'm

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Speaker 2: like points higher than what the total was in game one.

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Speaker 2: And when I see a discrepancy like that from I

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Speaker 2: lean into it. I go, you're telling me that you're

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Speaker 2: begging me to take the under, So I'm taking the over.

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Speaker 2: And then of course Luca came out. Luca's got like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, thirteen to fifteen points already in this

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Speaker 2: game and we're still in the in the first quarter

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Speaker 2: with a minute a.

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Speaker 3: Half to go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you knew more points were going to

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Speaker 4: be scored, you would guess that Kyrie and Luca weren't

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Speaker 4: going to come out and have that, especially Kyrie have

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Speaker 4: that type of game that he had it.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 4: It's a safe bet in a world of threes, both

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Speaker 4: of these teams put up an extreme amount of threes.

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Speaker 3: That you take the over in that in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that said, Boston's not hitting any of them yet, No,

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Speaker 2: but it'll it'll happen.

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Speaker 3: It'll happen.

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Speaker 2: Not tracking toward what we would call a high scoring

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Speaker 2: game yet, minute and a half to go, first quarter,

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Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty Dallas leads. But yes, I do

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Speaker 2: think that this is going to be a very different

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Speaker 2: looking game and they're going to boogie here pretty soon.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I think we have some things to say about Luka Dancic,

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Speaker 2: even just watching him play in this game, that we

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Speaker 2: want to discuss. We'll do that at the top of

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Speaker 2: the hour. Coming up next, let's circle back to your

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Speaker 2: commentary on Gino Oriema's commentary because I've got a little

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Speaker 2: bit again Devil's Advocate response to what both he said

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Speaker 2: and what you said about he said. So that is

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Speaker 2: all coming up next. With E from Salam, Mark Willard.

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Speaker 2: This is Foxsports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Okay Okay dot com studios.

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Speaker 3: That is E from Salam. I'm Mark Willard.

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Speaker 2: Well, haven't our watch party checking it out? Game two

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals about to head into the second quarter here shortly,

538
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: much tighter game, much more watchable game.

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Speaker 3: We'll be referencing it a lot.

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Speaker 2: But I do want to go back to where you

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Speaker 2: took the Caitlin Clark conversation based off of Gino Arima's comments,

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Speaker 2: and again this is all based on if you're just

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Speaker 2: joining us, so you've been kind of in a fog

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Speaker 2: this weekend. Caitlin Clark has left off the team USA

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Speaker 2: Olympic roster. The world is not going to take a

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Speaker 2: deep dive on this and fully understand why. They're just

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Speaker 2: going to go crazy. And there's been some outrage and

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Speaker 2: commentary with regard to her being left off, which was

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Speaker 2: actually not a huge surprise to those who were following along.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, here's Gino's comment about the whole Caitlyn Clark situation.

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Speaker 6: I think you and I both know the landscape that

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Speaker 6: we live in today, both sports wise and nonsports wise. Right,

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Speaker 6: we are in a red blue and if you're red,

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Speaker 6: you can't agree with blue, and if you're blue, you

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Speaker 6: can't agree with red, Whereas most things are in the middle.

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Speaker 6: If you're a college player, and you're a great college player,

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Speaker 6: like Caitlyn was, the delusional fan base that follows her

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Speaker 6: disrespected the WNBA players by saying she's going to go

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Speaker 6: in that league and tear it apart. There were actually

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Speaker 6: odds like she's third or fourth embedding odds of being

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Speaker 6: MVP to WNBA. These people are so disrespect and so

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Speaker 6: unknowledgeable and so stupid that it gives women's basketball a

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Speaker 6: bad name. Okay, so the kid was set up for failure.

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Speaker 3: Right from the beginning.

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Speaker 6: So if you're a WNBA player, and I believe me,

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Speaker 6: I've coached the best and I've pissed them off a lot,

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Speaker 6: and they let me know about it, but they were

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Speaker 6: tremendously disrespect.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, only disagree from with anything that he just said.

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Speaker 2: What I can say, though, is sometimes that's just the

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Speaker 2: way the world works like Geno's essentially saying he's calling

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Speaker 2: on fans that are brand new to women's basketball and

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Speaker 2: calling them stupid, and I would be like, of course

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Speaker 2: they are, Geno, they just got here. And in the

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Speaker 2: world of entertainment, I don't think it usually works very

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Speaker 2: well for the entertainer to welcome the audience in by

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Speaker 2: going you better be knowledgeable about how we're going to

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Speaker 2: entertain you, or else we would like to reject you

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Speaker 2: and eject you out from our fraternity. Like you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, there's no there's no way to

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Speaker 2: concoct the way that an audience reacts to an entertainment.

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Speaker 2: The world was not disrespectful to the w NBA establishment.

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Speaker 2: I hate to break into, Geno. There was no WNBA establishment.

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Speaker 2: This is the establishment of the WNBA.

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Speaker 3: No, no understand me. For a lot For a lot

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Speaker 3: of people, this is their first day in school. Okay,

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Speaker 3: for some people.

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Speaker 2: Can't tell them to understand math when they just sat

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Speaker 2: down at kindergarten on the first day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the thing you can't do is then talk

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Speaker 4: about math like you've been watching our knowing math and

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Speaker 4: understanding math this whole time, and.

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Speaker 3: That it's sports worth. But that's a problem though, Like, but.

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Speaker 4: That's like they're talking about it, like on CNN and

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Speaker 4: on like it's just like wait what, like well, no,

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's betting on m VP odds on.

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Speaker 4: All the things that have happened, the hard fouls and

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Speaker 4: look at this screen? Is this too much? And outside

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Speaker 4: of the one by Kennedy, uh you know, which was

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Speaker 4: bush yep yep.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know they want to point out every time she's,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, look at the screen they set on her.

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Speaker 4: Don't you can't do that. It's it's like going into

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Speaker 4: that messame math class, not having it, not taking math prior,

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Speaker 4: and be like, well, why is the decimal there? I mean,

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Speaker 4: I can't believe they put adjucimal after the third digchit

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Speaker 4: like this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but you from it's sports and it's barbershop. It's

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Speaker 2: never like I hate to do this because we do this.

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Speaker 2: It's never been smart of the board. It's I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: every barber shop in America. I hate to tell you.

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Speaker 2: It's not smart. It's not it's it's it's passionate. It's awesome,

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Speaker 2: but I ain't going.

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Speaker 3: There to be like, tell me what's actually going on.

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Speaker 2: I'm going there because it's funny and it's fun and

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Speaker 2: people are denigrating one another, hopefully in a week wink wink,

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Speaker 2: kind of a way, the way friends are with one another.

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Speaker 2: It's not supposed to be like all correct, it's sports.

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Speaker 3: It's sports. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mean okay, That's all I'm getting now here,

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Speaker 2: He's like, you, do you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 2: there is I think a fair pushback if you want

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Speaker 2: to say, if you want to be from the side

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Speaker 2: and go look, w NBA has been going on for years,

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Speaker 2: don't disrespect these players. There is again to that yang

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Speaker 2: to say, these people have never been here for and

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Speaker 2: you would like them to stay, so please don't thumb

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Speaker 2: your nose at their uneducated arrival.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm getting, Okay.

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Speaker 4: I look and do you know, yeah, we can fight

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Speaker 4: about it. And it sounds like you want to fight

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Speaker 4: a little basing your voice. It's passionate. I just think,

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Speaker 4: you know, just doing a disservice to to the to

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Speaker 4: the women who built the w n b A and

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Speaker 4: the ones who are currently keeping it going. And he

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Speaker 4: said also he said, uh, I think it was him

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Speaker 4: or somebody you know, had mentioned that. You know, everybody

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Speaker 4: has said like, this rookie class is the savior of

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Speaker 4: of the w n b A, and people are like,

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Speaker 4: it's not even the best rookie class.

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about right? Right, Well, it's not

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Speaker 3: a savior because it's not like in danger of dying, right,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be there. It certainly could take it

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Speaker 3: to a new level, though.

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Speaker 4: You hop if everybody you know does what they're supposed

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Speaker 4: to do and elevates their team. Indiana Fever just happened

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Speaker 4: to be a really bad team, and Caitlin scored thirty

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Speaker 4: against a team that was worse than them, which was

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Speaker 4: hard to do, and they pulled out a two point

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00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: victory against the team it was oh and eleven.

653
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: So you get this. You get this again, mister Hollywood

654
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 2: over here.

655
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: You get this.

656
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: The audience likes what the audience likes, and you don't.

657
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: You're not I'm not gonna say you don't get you

658
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: You're not smart to tell them they're supposed to like

659
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: it a different way.

660
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 4: That's true. Consume it the way you wish exactly. Just

661
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 4: talk about it. If it's wrong, well.

662
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: Consume it. But when you go home, no talking, no talking,

663
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: be quiet, don't don't. Don't tell your friends. That's all

664
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: I'm getting at. Man, Like I get it. If I

665
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: had been in the wa if I was Diana Tarazzi,

666
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 2: this whole thing would tick me the hell off for sure.

667
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 4: That's like if you well, we'll talk about it on

668
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 4: the top. I was gonna get into a whole nother soliloquy,

669
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 4: but we'll do it next hour.

670
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll do it next hour. We also need to

671
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 3: talk about Luka Doncic.

672
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people that have just kind

673
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: of had it up to here with the he is

674
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 2: the least watchable star.

675
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: In the NBA. Uh, we can get into that.

676
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685
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Speaker 2: think there's more to say, obviously on the Caitlin Clark

686
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: situation from I know you weren't done.

687
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: We'll get back to it in a sec.

688
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: I do want to ask you about the experience of

689
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: watching Luka Doncic's play basketball.

690
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: What are your when I say that, What are your

691
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: immediate thoughts in terms of the experience of watching it?

692
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 4: I think of a showman, right, So if okay, someone

693
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 4: where it'll be like, hey, have you ever seen Luca play?

694
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: It? Would you know? It would.

695
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 4: Initially have me thinking like, oh, this is mussy TV, right,

696
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 4: Like when someone came up to me was like, yo,

697
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 4: have you ever seen Magic Johnson play?

698
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 3: Mm hmm?

699
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 4: Or have you seen this kid named Kobe in high school?

700
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 4: Or this kid named Lebron? Have you ever seen this

701
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 4: kid named Lebron in high school? Or any of the greats.

702
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 4: So when you say have you ever seen Luca play?

703
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, oh, okay, I must tune in for this.

704
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 3: So are you now?

705
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: I want to make sure I'm understanding you correct. You're

706
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: putting that name on that level.

707
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: I think that name could get to that level. I

708
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 4: mean it is clear just watching him oversea, watching him

709
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 4: play overseas as a seventeen year old. Eighteen year old kid.

710
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 4: You were like, oh, oh he's Oh, this is different.

711
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: This is a kid out here destroying men. I'm talking

712
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: about bodying them. But like back then, he was even dunking,

713
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: he was even Duncan over there. But his body control

714
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: is very slow and very You can't speed him up right,

715
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 4: and that's a talent in itself, Like you can't make

716
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 4: him do something he doesn't want to do.

717
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 3: Okay, you answered that in a maybe a very Ephraim

718
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: Salaam way of answering it. And here's what I mean

719
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: by that, And this is well established on this show.

720
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 3: You love this game. I love it. You love this game.

721
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: And so therefore those finer points, the intricacies of basketball

722
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: are not lost on you. And I appreciate the heck

723
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: out of.

724
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 3: That that maybe there are a lot more casual viewers

725
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 3: out there who find him difficult to watch, because it's

726
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: not because he's not good. But you know where I'm

727
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: going next. There's two things. There's two things. First of all,

728
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: the man is complaining every constantly, every play, every play.

729
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: And then secondarily, i'd also sort of ask, you know,

730
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 2: while we're having a conversation about asking WNBA viewers basically

731
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: to watch the game the right way, well, does Luca

732
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: play it the right way? Because I would be less

733
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: turned off by someone who complained to the refs a lot,

734
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: because there are a lot of guys who complain to

735
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: the refs a lot. But I'd be less turned off

736
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: by someone who does that if that same person wasn't

737
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: also basically playing tittley winks with the defender every single

738
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: time he has the ball in order to get the

739
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: ref to be fooled. Like he is a master at.

740
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 3: Doing little things with the ball offensively.

741
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: Giving a forward shoulder shove and then getting his arm

742
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: in the right way.

743
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 3: So that it'll get hit.

744
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: He's a master of all of those little things, which

745
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: I find those two things put together to be very

746
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 2: difficult to watch sometimes, which is I can fool the ref,

747
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: but then I'm also mad at the ref all the

748
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: time when the ref gets fooled, Like it just it

749
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 2: feels like I'm watching a hypocritical basketball star.

750
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: It's like a presidential debate.

751
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: Right, It's like, you can't you can't be mad at

752
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: the refs all the time when the refs are very

753
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: often being fooled in your favor.

754
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's you know, that's the brand of basketball.

755
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: He grew up playing. A lot of complaining, a lot

756
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 4: of flopping was synonymous with overseas basketball, and so it's

757
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 4: you know, it's been invading the you know, the rules change.

758
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: The rule changes have have lent to.

759
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 4: The the elements of the complaining, complaining, complaining, because even

760
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: minimal cunt now they have this new thing. They they've

761
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: readjusted how they call fout. Minimal contact is a thing now.

762
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 4: If it's minimal contact, then it's not right. Like no

763
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 4: one understands or knows what that means. But you hear

764
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: him say it a lot when they're reviewing the call

765
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 4: and they don't overturn it. Minimum contact. I will tell

766
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 4: you one thing that Luca doesn't have, and it drives

767
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: me crazy. He has zero lateral quickness when it comes

768
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 4: to playing defense. So if you get him rocking one

769
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 4: way and come back the other way, he is done.

770
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 4: Reminds well, at least he actually tries. It reminds me

771
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 4: of another.

772
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: Great score, James Harden. But he didn't.

773
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: He didn't even really try to play defense. He was

774
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 4: just like, I'm just gonna save it all for offense.

775
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 4: But yeah, the complaining and in last series, he had

776
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 4: a couple of games where they had really talked to

777
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 4: him about just focusing on the games, and he had

778
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: he had great basketball games. Right, you use less energy

779
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 4: focusing on complaining and crying. But it's just if I

780
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 4: was a if I was a casual fan of the NBA,

781
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 4: that would drive me crazy. Yes, I would be like,

782
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 4: come on, like, just play bro right, just play.

783
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: Well.

784
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 2: It's also funny that if you're bothered by his defense, now,

785
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: what are you going to be ten years from now?

786
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: Because right stars late in their career ten two defense, Yeah,

787
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: they get well, they start they start caring less slash,

788
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: They just can't you know what I mean. Look at Lebron.

789
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: Lebron was an amazing defender, but like we're asking something. Yeah,

790
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 2: we're asking somebody at age thirty nine to still play

791
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: the way he does. You're not going to be able

792
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 2: to go all out both ends of the floor all

793
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: the time. I think the most forgettable thing in all

794
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: of the NBA right now is that Luca is only

795
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: twenty five years old. Yeah he looks thirty four. He

796
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: looks thirty four. He plays forty four. Yes he's he's

797
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: twenty five. He's twenty five years old. I mean that

798
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: is a baby.

799
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 3: You built like a ups worker. Yes, he is. He's

800
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 3: definitely built.

801
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: Like if you showed up at your house, man, that

802
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: actually you're making me think about content right now. You

803
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 2: could do some things with Luca if you trust him.

804
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: You did market him to be it could be amazing.

805
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god, if.

806
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: The Amazon truck pulled up at your house and Luca

807
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: got out in just a blue polo and jeans and

808
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: put something at your door and took a picture of

809
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: it with an iPad, would anybody recognize him? No?

810
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 4: What the fact that he's six well, it's hard to

811
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 4: hide at sixty nine. I don't care what type of

812
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 4: wig you have on.

813
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: He notts six nine.

814
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 4: He's listed at six seven, yeah, because he doesn't want

815
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: to be Yeah, he doesn't want to be sixty nine.

816
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 4: Guards don't want to be bigger. It's interesting though, man.

817
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 4: And like Katie doesn't want to be listed at seven feet, yeah,

818
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: he's seven pete right, like he doesn't want to Anthony

819
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 4: Davis doesn't want to be listed at seven feet. He's

820
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: seven pete right, like they once you get he's like,

821
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: you know, six eleven right, right, It does there's.

822
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: A little stigment to the basket you seven foot no.

823
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: I tell you, though, this series is going to say

824
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: a lot in terms of the star and where the

825
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 2: profile goes. And I'm mainly talking about Luka Doncic and

826
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: I'm talking about I'm talking about Jason Tatum, who's only

827
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: twenty six and just turned twenty six not too long ago.

828
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 3: So these guys are young stars.

829
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: And you know, Jason's been here before and it's largely

830
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: been disappointing. Luca's profile just in being here has gotten

831
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: to be bigger, and I do know a lot of

832
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: people that are like, man, he's great, but he's also

833
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: annoying to watch play basketball. This series determines so much

834
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: on the profile of these two players because I think

835
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 2: both of them they're both a's, but I also think

836
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: they're both as far as branding across the NBA, they're

837
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 2: both still kind of a minus B plus guys. No

838
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: one's reaching the Steph Lebron Jannis yet kind of of

839
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: a level.

840
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 3: Yet. I think the winner of this series might The

841
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 3: problem is.

842
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 4: If the Celtics win, then Jalen Brown is probably going

843
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 4: to be the the finals MVP, Like that's what you

844
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 4: can't happen. That's what you don't want to happen, like

845
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 4: a young rising star when you're considered the face of

846
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: the team somebody else. That was the problem with Steph.

847
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: With Steph, that was the problem with Steph. That was

848
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 4: that was like, oh, well, yeah, you got the league MVP,

849
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 4: but you couldn't even be the finals MVP. M all right,

850
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 4: somebody who came off the bench and start at midway

851
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 4: through the season the series got the finals MVP. So

852
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: that's that's the draw that's the drawback, Like if Jalen

853
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 4: continues to go out, because he clearly him and Porzingis

854
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: were clearly the MVPs of Game one.

855
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: Well and so far as they reach halftime with the

856
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: Celtics up three, the MVP tonight is Drew Holliday.

857
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: Yes, he's got seventeen.

858
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Tatum coming up next, because my man

859
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 2: is two for ten. He's two for ten and he's

860
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: zero for three from beyond the arc and he had points.

861
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 2: So let's talk about it. Because I said this before

862
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: the series, nobody's got more on the line than Jason

863
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: Tatum in this series, nobody has it. And he has

864
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 2: got five points after again, it didn't matter as much

865
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: when you get a big victory in game one. But yeah,

866
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: it's been underwhelming so far and that has largely been

867
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: the case for him in a lot of his big games.

868
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 2: So we can dive further into that coming up next

869
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: with e from salam Mark Whether this is Fox Sports Radio,

870
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: so it's the Tyreck dot Com Studios. We'll get back

871
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: to Caitlin Clark. I haven't even asked you about the

872
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: as the world turns with the Lakers head coaching search.

873
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: Good God, we'll get into all of it. But here's

874
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 2: one thing I've been confronted with quite a bit hosting

875
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: radio in the San Francisco Bay Area. Kyle Shanahan and

876
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers get largely branded based on what

877
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: has happened in two football games. Two doesn't mean that

878
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: they get to escape criticism. But sometimes I find it

879
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 2: interesting in sports, specially football, where there is no series,

880
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: so best of seven, you go play a game and

881
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: it's like you could be good all year, and then

882
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 2: you every time you go to the playoffs, you're good

883
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and you win this huge game, and

884
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 2: you win that huge game, and then you win this

885
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: huge game over there, and then you go to the

886
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: super Bowl. Then you're leading the whole way, and then

887
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 2: like an all time great quarterback rallies and beats you,

888
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: and everyone's like, choker, can't win the big One, And

889
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: you're like, well.

890
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: What the hell were all of those other games? Right? Yeah?

891
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: And I know you and I have talked so much

892
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: about Kyle, So I have a hard time when people

893
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 2: get branded based on an incredibly small sample, especially when

894
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: that person's larger sample tells a completely different story. I

895
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: have a hard time with that sometimes. So let's talk

896
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: about Jason Tatum, because unfortunately for him, the sample size

897
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 2: is starting to not be very small. What do you

898
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: think about Jason in Big Games? I think number one,

899
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: I think he's a tremendous talent. We saw that early

900
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: on his rookie year and every year since. But in

901
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: order to cross over that threshold big games is where

902
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: you where that comes from?

903
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 4: If not, then you just be James Harden. Are you know,

904
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 4: Paul George are any of the other beyond talented players

905
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 4: who couldn't quite get.

906
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: Over that hump? Right?

907
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 4: You become extremely talented, but that's it, and then year

908
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 4: after year after year of that becomes your legacy in

909
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: who you are, which sucks because you think.

910
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: You know.

911
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan scored sixty three in the Garden against Bird

912
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 4: in the Celtics in the playoffs and lost, right right right,

913
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 4: Like this is young Mike, very young Mike. Yes, if

914
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 4: he wins and wins a championship, there you want to

915
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 4: talk about he Look, he came back from that and

916
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 4: still became the greatest to ever play. Imagine if he

917
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 4: wins right then and there, that young doing what he's doing.

918
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: Right.

919
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 4: So, Jason Tatum came into the league and was phenomenal

920
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 4: his rookie year. Everybody was like whoa. And then make

921
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 4: it to the conference finals and everybody's like, oh my god.

922
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: And the next year good and good, and the Kyrie

923
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 4: experiment happened set him back a little bit. But he's

924
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 4: been that type of player for the last five years,

925
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 4: six years with no wins. So now it's like, oh, okay,

926
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 4: well he's a great player, right, but he's not great

927
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 4: enough to get us over the hump, right, Like, if

928
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 4: you have to score sixty in a game seven or

929
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 4: an elimination game, then that's what you do.

930
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: That's what you do.

931
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 4: And for some it look everybody's not built like that,

932
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 4: no matter how much talent you have. Now, when we

933
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 4: talk about the all time greats, these guys were affecting

934
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 4: the court on both sides too. It just mind you.

935
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 4: Jordan will lock you up and drop sixty on you.

936
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 4: Colby'll lock you up and drop sixty on you. So

937
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 4: just keep that in mind when we talk about being

938
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 4: great and you know, all of those things, like he

939
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 4: still has a little bit of little ways to go,

940
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 4: but the talent is there. Can he take that next step?

941
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 4: Can he take that next step? Can he close it

942
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 4: out in an elimination game? Can he go bonkers? I'm

943
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 4: talking about bonkers where everybody's like, oh wow, okay, well

944
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 4: yes he's ready, because until you do that, then you're

945
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 4: not ready just a good player. And it's frustrating because

946
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 4: we see him go bonkers at different points of the

947
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: year and you know, Game one's two threes, like we

948
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 4: need it when it counts, right, Lebron got over the

949
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 4: hump of the Celtics because he just went ham on

950
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 4: them in an elimination game, right like it was just like,

951
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 4: oh well, it was nothing we can do? Was it

952
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: was nothing? It was nothing we could we could have

953
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 4: done there, right, like you will your team to win

954
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 4: no matter what, and then Celtas have the better team.

955
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 4: Not a lot of willing needed to be done, been

956
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: the best team the whole time. And all the stars again.

957
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, all over the place. Everybody in their starting

958
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 3: five has been an All Star except for White.

959
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 4: So you know, with a situation where it is either now,

960
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 4: people get up.

961
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, this guy's a career fifty three

962
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: point three percent.

963
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 4: From the field massacred, I mean massive massive, Yes he's

964
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 4: like that.

965
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: Well, actually that's that's a efficiency field goal percentage.

966
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: But but I overstated it there.

967
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: He's a forty six percent all told, all shooting six per.

968
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: Half percent from three point range.

969
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: When he goes to the playoffs, those numbers go down,

970
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 2: like they go down in ways that you can feel them.

971
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: Forty six to forty four, thirty seven and a half

972
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: to thirty five. It's not overwhelming, But you're talking about

973
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: someone who, at age twenty six, has played in a

974
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: truckload of playoff games already truckload, an absolute load of

975
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: playoff games.

976
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 3: What to show.

977
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: He has played in twenty playoff series already series not

978
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: games series in his career, and so we are well

979
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: out of what I would call a small sample size.

980
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: We're now in a large sample size.

981
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 4: And now we're in this is who you are. Well yep, yeah,

982
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 4: no more sampling. If you order Jason Tatum, this is

983
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 4: what you're gonna get. There's no more sampling.

984
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: So that I'm not gonna use the word choker.

985
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like it's people have not that right, right,

986
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: But he is a lesser player, Yeah, because lesser player.

987
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 4: And man, even if they win it and someone else

988
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 4: other than him, is it finals, MVP the same thing.

989
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 4: You're in the same boat. You're in the same boat.

990
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: So you know, Jaylen Brown, I don't care nothing about that.

991
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 4: He like, I'm going to get mine, man.

992
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 3: That's you know what I mean.

993
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: Like, one thing that I noticed between the two Jalen

994
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: is just he's a head down, just go kind of

995
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: a person. Tatum has openly spoken about this, and I

996
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: don't think it's helped him to be honest with you.

997
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 2: He's openly spoken about how I want to be remembered,

998
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 2: like x y Z, I want to channel Brian. Yeah,

999
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: you got to stay away from that type of stuff.

1000
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: It's all in Celtics Jersey. It's already a weird thing today.

1001
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 3: It's weird.

1002
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 2: But when you say it out loud, it also it

1003
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: puts it's not only that it puts more pressure on you.

1004
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: Ephrom I don't think it's kind of like what Anthony

1005
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: Edwards did this.

1006
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 3: This playoff season. Oh I'm I'm Michael Jordan.

1007
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: Okay, if you are the fact that you need to

1008
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: say it out loud, it's what it feels like. I

1009
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 2: don't know these guys. It feels to me like you're

1010
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: trying to convince yourself. Yeah, because the rest of us,

1011
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: the rest of us don't really care what you say.

1012
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna see it. It's either gonna happen or it's not.

1013
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: And so when you start talking about it all the time,

1014
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: as opposed to just doing it, it feels like insecurity.

1015
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 4: To me, you know, having a neighborhood, like don't talk

1016
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 4: me to death. There you go, right, you ain't got

1017
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 4: talk about it. Be a body, I mean unless your

1018
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 4: name Steve de Sayer and then.

1019
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: All you want because when you speak, people listen the

1020
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: way it is.

1021
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 7: Let's up date NBA Finals Game two, Gentlemen at one

1022
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 7: seed Boston. The Celtics lead Dallas sixty two to fifty seven.

1023
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 7: Jason Tatum was two of ten shooting from the floor

1024
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 7: in the first half. Did have eight assists, but that

1025
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 7: was his worst shooting in a first half of any

1026
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 7: game all season. Meanwhile, Luka Donsich with twenty three points

1027
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 7: in the first half, most in the first half of

1028
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 7: any Finals game since Steph Curry five years ago. Donsich

1029
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 7: ten of fourteen shooting from the floor, now twenty five points.

1030
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 7: As we have eight and a half minutes to go

1031
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 7: third quarter, the Celtics lead is sixty two to fifty

1032
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 7: nine over Dallas. It was pretty easily a Celtics win

1033
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 7: in Game one at home. They'll be on the road

1034
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 7: at Dallas for games three and four. That'll be Wednesday

1035
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 7: and Friday nights. Stanley Cup Game two is tomorrow night.

1036
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 7: Edmonton at Florida Panthers took the opener three to nothing.

1037
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 7: Last night, Carlos Alcarez won the French Open in five sets,

1038
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 7: six to two in the third. At College Baseball Super Regionals,

1039
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 7: Evansville is playing tonight at number one Tennessee. It's the

1040
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 7: Balls twelve one in the lead. In the top of

1041
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 7: the seventh Florida in thirteen innings eliminated Clemson eleven to ten.

1042
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 7: Scottie Scheffler won the Memorial, his fifth victory of the season.

1043
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 7: The livgolf winner in Houston was Carlos Ortiz by one

1044
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 7: stroke tight end. Darren Waller told the Giants he is retiring.

1045
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: Believe it or not.

1046
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 7: We've got football on Fox TV going tonight because this

1047
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 7: weekend is the conference finals in the UFL. Birmingham won

1048
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 7: in a comeback yesterday thirty one eighteen against Michigan. Saint Louis,

1049
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 7: which is getting the great attendance in this league, is

1050
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 7: hosting San Antonio tonight in the other conference final, and

1051
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 7: Saint Louis is trailing at home twenty two to fifteen

1052
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 7: to the San Antonio Bramas. It is, by the way,

1053
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 7: next in Saint Louis, the championship game will be held.

1054
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 7: NASCAR victory for Kyle Larson at Sonoma, the road course

1055
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 7: to Major League Baseball. Yankees are hosting the Dodgers this

1056
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 7: weekend and the Yanks are holding on to a five

1057
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 7: to four lead over LA right now. The game's in

1058
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 7: the top of the eighth. Trent Grisham a three run

1059
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 7: homer in the sixth to take the lead. In London,

1060
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 7: met six five winners at Philadelphia with three runs in

1061
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 7: the top of the ninth. Attendance was fifty five thousand

1062
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 7: as west Ham United Stadium in London was reconfigured for

1063
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 7: MLB this weekend. Minnesota in ten innings, one at Pittsburgh

1064
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 7: eleven to five, Boston and ten innings one at the

1065
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 7: White Sox six to four, Seattle in ten innings, one

1066
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 7: at Kansas City six to five, and Toronto in ten

1067
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 7: innings won six ' four at Oakland. The Angels beat

1068
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 7: Houston and closer Josh Hayter nine to seven on a

1069
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 7: two run homer in the bottom of the ninth. Wins

1070
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 7: for Arizona and Saint Louis as well and guys. The

1071
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 7: LPGA Tour winner, well, let's just say she wasn't probably

1072
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 7: in the conversation of who's going to take it today

1073
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 7: because she overcame a seven shot deficit to win on today.

1074
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 7: Linnea Strom from Sweden shot a final round sixty to

1075
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 7: get the victory. This was a three round event in

1076
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 7: New Jersey. She had missed the cut in five of

1077
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 7: her last six events, barely made the cut on the

1078
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 7: number this weekend she had played at Arizona State, and

1079
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 7: here gets an LBGA Tour victory after starting the day

1080
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 7: tied for fifty second place, what by far the biggest

1081
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 7: comeback by position on that tour since nineteen eighty four,

1082
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 7: and in fact, the lowest final round score by an

1083
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 7: LPGA Tour winner. Ever, how much you win, Yeah, I

1084
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 7: gotta looked at it at eight four mil let's put

1085
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 7: it that way back to you.

1086
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 2: So the L in LPGA does not stand for live,

1087
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: is what you're saying?

1088
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 3: Lucrative?

1089
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, although kind of like live. It was a

1090
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 7: three day event.

1091
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 3: Well that's good. A sixty Wow?

1092
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 4: Lord who unconscious right there? Yeah, that's like you you're

1093
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 4: in a zone. You're not talking anybody. You don't hear

1094
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 4: to Caddy.

1095
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 7: You just like, just for the record, remember we were saying,

1096
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 7: I looked it up a last hour. We were saying,

1097
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 7: the guys at the two men's events, you finished top twenty,

1098
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 7: you get a quarter million dollars. Yeah, the winner got

1099
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 7: about a quarter million dollars today.

1100
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: I was just looking at the yearly money list on

1101
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: the LPGA.

1102
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: Crazy.

1103
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: So actually, let's have some fun since I'm looking at it,

1104
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: and Steve, you might be looking at it. But Eve

1105
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: from so Nellie Korda, who has won like a just

1106
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: she's played ridiculous golf. So almost every tournament, yeah she played,

1107
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: she wins. It's it's ridiculous. She is number one on

1108
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 2: the money list in nine tournaments played. And Steve, how

1109
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 2: many wins is it in the nine tournaments that she's.

1110
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 3: Played five or six? I think it was.

1111
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right, So that's what I was thinking.

1112
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: Five wins out of nine events. What do you think

1113
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: her annual money is at this point?

1114
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: A million dollars?

1115
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: No, it's not that sad three it is, it's almost three.

1116
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 2: But she has yet to reach three million dollars after

1117
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 2: five wins.

1118
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 3: Scotty Scheffler won four today and Scotty's won four today.

1119
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:28,839
Speaker 7: He's over twenty four million for the year, already breaking

1120
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 7: his record set last year in a full season.

1121
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 3: There you go.

1122
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 2: So in other words, the LPGA is like, will take

1123
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark if you guys don't want her.

1124
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 3: She wants to play golf. We're open to that.

1125
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 7: So are we going to have a conversation? WNBA Salary's

1126
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 7: LPGA winnings. It's kind of the same thing, right.

1127
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if there's an LPGA player that suddenly grabs

1128
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 2: America's attention, then yeah.

1129
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,879
Speaker 7: And that has happened in the past, by the way.

1130
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 2: In the past, but it was more maybe even more,

1131
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 2: thank you. You know, there was the Onica Sorenstams. But

1132
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 2: the one that we thought was going to grab everyone's

1133
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 2: attention was Michelle wi Yes, who's finished with golf, who's retired.

1134
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 3: There's not enough money in it.

1135
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 2: Right, speaking of retired, I'm worried about Darren Waller. Anybody else,

1136
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 2: everybody else just worried for the worried about the person

1137
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: Darren Waller.

1138
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 3: I am right, yeah.

1139
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: I mean this is like do you want to talk

1140
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,839
Speaker 2: about having it written all over your face and neon

1141
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: signs and the alarms are all going off with regard

1142
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: to mental health. Darren Waller's thirty one, and for those

1143
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: who don't know his backstory, and I mean going on

1144
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: the way back prior to when he popped with the Raiders,

1145
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,799
Speaker 2: Darren had a lot of problems, a lot of substance

1146
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: abuse problems, and then he got things going in the

1147
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: right direction, started playing great football and then moved on

1148
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 2: to the Giants and injuries took over and he's married

1149
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 2: to Kelsey Plumb, the w NBA star from just a

1150
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: year ago was correct now divorced, and I think that.

1151
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: And then the rap song came out and was all

1152
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: over the internet, and it was the minute you saw it,

1153
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, oh boy, this is not this isn't good.

1154
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 3: So in a way, I don't know how you read it.

1155
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 2: He like as Glad, like I said three weeks ago,

1156
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: I go, this guy's going to retire. The minute I

1157
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 2: saw the video, I'm like, he's going to retire, and

1158
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 2: he did. I'm trying to figure out if that's a

1159
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 2: good thing or a bad thing. I feel like it's

1160
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: a good thing. But if he loses his lady and

1161
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: his livelihood all at the same time, I think there's

1162
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: a healthy level of concern there.

1163
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, because that's that's a lot to deal with.

1164
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 4: One would think if he would, you know, getting divorced

1165
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 4: and stayed in at least to be with the guys

1166
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 4: doing something he loves. But to have both of those

1167
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 4: things snatched away like that, that's tough for anybody, let

1168
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 4: alone and recovering addict. So yeah, prayers out, man, What

1169
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 4: I I did something not to change the subject. But

1170
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 4: I did something this weekend I don't normally do, so

1171
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 4: that I'm invested into it now. Yeah, wa watched every

1172
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 4: second of this Dodge Dodgers Yankees game.

1173
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's.

1174
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 4: Different, isn't it? All three games? It's different today. What

1175
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:04,560
Speaker 4: I've learned is use your probably not pitched to Aaron Judge.

1176
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Giants came away with you, exact same impression

1177
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: last weekend.

1178
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 4: Now when he's feeling like he's feeling today, yesterday, he today, I.

1179
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 3: Wonder, Yes, it's been like two weeks.

1180
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm just they had his number the first game,

1181
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 4: you know, with nobody could hit. I mean, it was

1182
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 4: just a picture's duel right until the eleventh. But I've

1183
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 4: been thoroughly entertained by this series. Could you imagine if

1184
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 4: this was a preview to the World Series.

1185
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: Well, I threw it out to you last week, and

1186
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: I've got friends who are are not Dodger or Yankee

1187
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 2: fans who have texted me just within the last hour

1188
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 2: and they're like, I can't turn this off.

1189
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't do it. They're like, I, I'm

1190
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 3: not even going to watch the NBA Finals tonight. I

1191
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 3: can't turn this.

1192
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 4: Off like, I'm like, I taped the games and came

1193
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 4: home and watch them. Like, my wife was like, what

1194
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 4: are you doing? I was like, I'm watching the Dodger game.

1195
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 4: She said, what you said? Excuse me? She said, say

1196
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 4: what now? And look, I am in it. I love it.

1197
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 4: It's amazing. Yeah, it's entertaining. I love the pitch clock.

1198
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get I gotta challenge you on this. Not

1199
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: whether you like it or not, that's up to you.

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01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 2: I want to.

1201
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 3: Challenge you on about the Dodgers and the Yankees. Yes,

1202
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 3: we're live in.

1203
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: The Tirech dot com studios, Mark whether he from Salam

1204
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Okay, y'all live inthe Tirec dot com

1205
01:13:54,160 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: studios alongside from Salam, I'm I'm Mark Willard. Gosh, we

1206
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: haven't even gotten to the Lakers head coaching thing yet.

1207
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 2: I bet you have something to say. We could save

1208
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: that for the top of the hour though, if you

1209
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 2: want sure. I mean, we're going through a lot. Just

1210
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: a second ago and I almost lost my train of thought.

1211
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: We were talking Caitlyn Clark, we were talking Darren Waller.

1212
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 2: What were we just talking about? You had something? You

1213
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: had something juicy and and and I just forgot.

1214
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 3: I was talking about the Dodgers and the Yankees.

1215
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. You're jogging my memory. Okay, So

1216
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 2: I said I was going to challenge you on something.

1217
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 3: That's it, all right. You're telling me how much you

1218
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 3: love this, and I get it. This is branding.

1219
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: It's no different than conversation that we had two hours

1220
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 2: ago about Gino Ariy. I'm a kind of wagging his

1221
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: finger at Caitlin Clark fans. It's like you can't tell

1222
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 2: people what they like and what they want to see.

1223
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 2: And sometimes we don't even know why. Why does the

1224
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: Dodgers and Yankees look different? I mean it's history, so

1225
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: those of us we are old enough to remember some history. Great,

1226
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 2: but why do the Dodgers and Yankees look different to

1227
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 2: an eleven year old? And I know the answer right now.

1228
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 2: The answer right now is the two largest human beings

1229
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 2: who have ever played in the history of this sport, Dawn,

1230
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 2: those two jerseys. No one's not showing up for show. Hey,

1231
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 2: versus Aaron Judge. I had a buddy text me this

1232
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 2: morning and he's reading some article on fan sided or

1233
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 2: something like that, and he's a San Francisco Giants fan

1234
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: and this article is all about how a trade between

1235
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 2: the Yankees and the Giants could make the New York

1236
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: Yankees absolutely unstoppable. They cannot be beat if they can

1237
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 2: just acquire third baseman Matt Chapman from from the San

1238
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 2: Francisco Giants. And he's kind of bothered because he's like, uh, dude,

1239
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 2: we're in a playoff spot right now too.

1240
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 3: We don't have that good of a record.

1241
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 2: But why, like, what what is this article? And I said,

1242
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 2: first of all, fan sided just means somebody has a computer.

1243
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 2: So that's great. It's an I'm not dissing it, but

1244
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 2: it's an article. That's just it's fan sided. That's what

1245
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: it's called. So don't get triggered by that. But you

1246
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: know where I'm going here, which is to say that

1247
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: anything Dodgers and Yankees related feels so expectant, as if

1248
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 2: there's a birthright to all of the good players in

1249
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 2: these two jury. And while that is wonderful, the one

1250
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 2: time out of two years that the two teams play

1251
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 2: in an interleague series like they are now, I do

1252
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 2: think there's a conversation to be had with regard to

1253
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: the way baseball has sort of like the way the

1254
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 2: cookie has crumbled, the way this has all fallen out,

1255
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 2: because as you said, Dodgers versus Yankees World Series would

1256
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 2: be amazing.

1257
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: Ef from your right, what if we don't get that?

1258
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 2: Is there any other series that would interest you? No,

1259
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: that's a problem because as I sit here today, I

1260
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 2: know that they are probably the respective best teams in

1261
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: each league. Apologies to the Phillies, but I got you.

1262
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: They're probably the best. They're certainly the most watched teams

1263
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 2: in the two leagues. But if I said to you, Okay,

1264
01:17:55,960 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 2: let's bet you get Dodgers and Yankees, I get the field.

1265
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 2: Any other matchup, even if it's only one of those

1266
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 2: teams I win, I'm the favorite, it is much more

1267
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 2: likely that this matchup does not happen than it does.

1268
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 3: True. Yeah, so.

1269
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 2: You know, I know people get frustrated by the NFL model, but.

1270
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 3: Makes sense. Sometimes spread it out a little bit.

1271
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes sense, but it's you know, we got us,

1272
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 4: you know, top of a knife, top.

1273
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 3: Of the knife. Oh, moviie bets at the plate two

1274
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 3: on two outs.

1275
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 2: Like the fact that I'm sitting here watching the Celtics

1276
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: play the MAVs and you're watching baseball my head's exploding

1277
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: bizarro world.

1278
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 3: And just to be clear, I'm watching both. But yes,

1279
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 3: I know you are. I know you are.

1280
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 4: This is it, This is this is big ten. This

1281
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 4: is what people want to see. Hit this thing out

1282
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 4: the park. Moki, Well, I'm in it, look.

1283
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 3: So in it. You can't even answer my question.

1284
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 4: I don't even remember what you say it. I know

1285
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 4: that I have a problem with that. What did you say?

1286
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 2: I said, would it make sense for baseball to spread

1287
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: it out a little bit?

1288
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 4: No?

1289
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 3: What is what we want? We don't care nothing about

1290
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 3: all that other foolishness.

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01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, except for what you want is probably not gonna happen.

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01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,480
Speaker 2: It should it should happen. Nah, there's no shoot in baseball.

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01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean, the Dodgers have been due through all of

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01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,759
Speaker 2: this dominance and all of these winnings of the division.

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01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 3: They have been to.

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01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: One sort of World Series that okay, okay, you're right,

1297
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 2: they've been to one that mattered, and they blew it.

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01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 3: Come on, Moki, even if the other team was cheating,

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01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 3: they still come on.

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01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 2: You guys want to mark this down. This was the

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01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 2: night that he got distracted by baseball.

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01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd have never thought you would do this. Show.

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01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 2: He's all right, all right, fine, what if I yet,

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01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: Lakers head coach? Would you pay attention? So impressionable? You know,

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01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it if if everybody we're talking

1306
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 2: about it's just kids, but normally adults aren't this impressionable?

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to bring the heat right now. I'm

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01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: really not e from The Lakers are one of the

1314
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 2: great brands, one of the great organizations in the history

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01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 2: of sports in this country. I acknowledge that. I fully

1316
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: understand that. I also think you fans can be really funny.

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01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 3: Something you can be Can you laugh at yourself? Please?

1318
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 3: Just please? Of course you got it? Please, because you guys.

1319
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: The whole this comes from the whole hashtag future Laker thing. Oh,

1320
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: it comes from It comes from the expectant, entitled nature

1321
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 2: of if anyone's good, well then there ares and what

1322
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: I've noticed about Laker fans is you can largely be

1323
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 2: convinced of almost anything, anything.

1324
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 3: And it's hysterical.

1325
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: So Darvin Ham's fired and everyone's like, yeah, I knew it,

1326
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 2: That's the way it should be. And then it's quiet

1327
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 2: for a second. And the first story that comes up

1328
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: for the offseason is I think the Lakers are going

1329
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 2: to draft a player in the second round who's nowhere

1330
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 2: near good enough to be in the NBA, but that's

1331
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: the plan, and everyone's like, you, damn right, it is.

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01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 3: That makes some great sense. I don't care for the

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01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 3: guy that we're trying to keep his forty. I love it.

1334
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 2: And the next thing that happens, people go, so, I

1335
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: think that the Lakers are going to hire Lebron's podcast

1336
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: partner to be the head coach, and everyone's like, I

1337
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 2: think he's just like coach k.

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01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 3: In fact, he's a young pat Riley.

1339
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 2: Who said that everybody google JJ Reddick and pat Riley

1340
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 2: you'll see articles everywhere.

1341
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 3: I think I think he could be the next.

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: I think it makes all the sense in the world.

1343
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: Bob absolutely doesn't matter that all he's been doing is

1344
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 2: podcasting for the last five years. He hit a three

1345
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 2: he used to be able to hit a three, and

1346
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 2: he talks to Lebron all the time.

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01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 3: I think that's oozed off of Lebron. Yep, that's the

1348
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 3: guy for us.

1349
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 2: Then it turns out it was probably at rob link

1350
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 2: of smokescreen the whole time. WOJ comes out and goes

1351
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: Dan Hurley. Okay, very respected college coach. I know you

1352
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 2: know all about this, having faced your San Diego State

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01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 2: team twice in.

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01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 3: The last two right, and he's.

1355
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: Got a vibe and now all of these things. This

1356
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 2: is nothing against Dan Hurley, but the Laker fan that

1357
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: I used to know, if you had said, all right,

1358
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 2: we need a new coach.

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01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 3: We're looking at a college guy in a podcast host,

1360
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 3: what do you think.

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01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 2: Would have been like, what the hell are you talking about?

1362
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 2: We go get the krem de la crem in this country,

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01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 2: we go, we go to the other NBA team that

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01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 2: loves their coach, and we take him because we're the Lakers.

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01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: You guys have all reached this point now where we

1366
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: could convince you anything. I could tell you tomorrow that

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01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: WOD says Ronald McDonald's going to be the next head coach,

1368
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 2: and you guys would be like, welly, where's yellow. It's

1369
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: crazy what's happened? Just the Internet has taken Laker fandom

1370
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: and absolutely drives it now.

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01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 3: And I like, come on, man, you guys aren't that

1372
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm not even that.

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01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: He may be a great coach, but it's it feels

1374
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 2: so like, uh, I'm sorry, it feels so desperate.

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01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 4: It is desperate, thank you. It's bitting it, of course.

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01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 4: I mean, hey man, we're still paying too other coaches

1377
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 4: they don't even coach no more.

1378
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 3: Of course it's desperate. Oh my god.

1379
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,759
Speaker 4: The leader of our team is three thousand years old.

1380
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 4: We're watching our mortal rivalries in the final, having a

1381
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:22,440
Speaker 4: chance to go up one championship on us. Yeah, it's desperate.

1382
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 4: What did you think it was? Thought it was okay?

1383
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,719
Speaker 3: No, no, it's not about being okay. But I would

1384
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 3: have felt like what happened to the days when the Lakers.

1385
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 4: Pore drafts, poor free agents, all of it. It's just

1386
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:45,759
Speaker 4: been awful. So we are desperate. We are looking for

1387
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 4: that person to come in and write the ship. And yes,

1388
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 4: look they've tried it the other way. They've got seasoned coaches,

1389
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 4: they've got coaches who've won Coach Up the year, they've

1390
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 4: done all of those things so much to the point

1391
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 4: where they almost hired a podcaster. They're trying to figure

1392
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 4: out the puzzle, and you know, look, I just want

1393
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:19,440
Speaker 4: to coach. Who can coach, who will make an adjustment,

1394
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:24,759
Speaker 4: who will drop a play, who will know what lineup

1395
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 4: to put in the game. That's not too hard to ask,

1396
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 4: is it.

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01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 3: I don't think so. So that's that's all I want.

1398
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 4: So Yeah, if it's Dan Hurley, absolutely, I think he's

1399
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 4: a phenomenal coach.

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01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 3: I've watched him destroy us two years in a row. Yeah. No,

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01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 3: he's a fantastic coach.

1402
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, I'd like to remind everything everyone

1403
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: means nothing with regard to what would happen if he

1404
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: coaches the Lakers. Sorry, it doesn't mean he's not a

1405
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 2: great coach.

1406
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 3: But we watch this a lot. Somebody becomes the Bee's.

1407
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: Knees and they immediately you know what I mean, Like

1408
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 2: someone makes the tournament from uh, Florida Atlantic or whatever.

1409
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 2: You make the tournament, you win two games, all of

1410
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 2: a sudden, Michigan State or Michigan's calling you. It's like,

1411
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe that'll work, or maybe their guys just

1412
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:23,799
Speaker 2: got hot for a weekend.

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01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a good coach, man.

1414
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 4: He They come from basketball family like this is the

1415
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 4: dad was the coach that brothers the player's pedigree.

1416
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 3: There, But the NBA is a different different makers are

1417
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 3: a different animal, even within the NBA. Yeah, I know,

1418
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 3: you got, it's a lot.

1419
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 4: It's a lot, and don't take in four games just

1420
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 4: I mean, it can't be any worse than what we've

1421
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 4: been we've we've been turning on. So at this point,

1422
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 4: let's roll the dice. Let's not go dust somebody off

1423
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 4: the heap or somebody off the third seat of someone's bench.

1424
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 4: Let's say, Look, let's a winning coach and on any level,

1425
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 4: that's all I want.

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01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 3: So what do you think.

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01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 4: I think he'd be a great hire. Okay, I think

1428
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 4: he'd be a great higher. I think they'd run plays.

1429
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 4: I think the rotation would be better. I think they'd

1430
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 4: be better defensively. Do you know how hard it is

1431
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 4: for a great player to listen to somebody who you

1432
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 4: used to dunk into the rim? Well, I'm saying, I'm

1433
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 4: just saying, if you're my coach and I used to

1434
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 4: score forty on you, I'm like, okay, man, we start

1435
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 4: off on the wrong foot, I guess because I'm like,

1436
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 4: it's nothing you can tell me.

1437
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 3: Derek White, woof, he's so underrated. I'm glad you're I'm

1438
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 3: glad you're watching the NBA again. A right, welcome back movie,

1439
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 3: struck out? Come on?

1440
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Mookie, I just uh I remember a day

1441
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 2: or actually sort of feel like we're still there. You know,

1442
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 2: you talk about are you gonna listen to somebody who

1443
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 2: used to dunk on? I don't know, man, if you're

1444
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 2: an NBA star, you canna listen to anybody. Yeah, person

1445
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 2: in your respect Lebron and Anthony Davis, like what happened?

1446
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 4: Just know, it's not even about that. It's like, can

1447
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 4: you it's not even about coaching once you get to

1448
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 4: a certain like look my tenth year in the league

1449
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 4: after starting ten years like we didn't he didn't coach

1450
01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 4: me the same way, but the level of respect from

1451
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:02,719
Speaker 4: both it's there.

1452
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 3: Right. If I did something wrong, it wasn't a what

1453
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 3: are you doing? Come on?

1454
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 4: No, I'm not responding to that, but what it would

1455
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 4: be is like, hey, on this play, like what are

1456
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 4: we thinking here? And then I gotta be honest with myself.

1457
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 4: Look at you know this that and I'm tired or whatever.

1458
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,600
Speaker 4: Whatever happened. He was like, all right, well let's just

1459
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 4: try to focus in. But it's a different level. It's

1460
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 4: a respect thing, right, It's not about the actual coaching.

1461
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 4: It's about the scenarios right, when to challenge, when to

1462
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 4: call a time out, what lineup to put in right?

1463
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 3: What plays are we.

1464
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 4: Calling outside of the time out? If they're on a run,

1465
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 4: what do you do? It's all of those things that

1466
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 4: garner respect. And if you can't get the respect of

1467
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 4: the players because you're not doing what you're supposed to

1468
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 4: do there, then yeah, it's gonna be what it's gonna be.

1469
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 4: I was at the game, don't watching. I'm like, so nothing,

1470
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 4: You're not gonna do nothing over there? Would the player

1471
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 4: take the clipboard out your hand and do and drap

1472
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 4: his own play? That that's the real thing. Like I

1473
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 4: like when when when Mike Brown came to the Lakers

1474
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 4: and he was coaching Kobe, I was like, oh, this

1475
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 4: is not gonna work. Because in his press conferences when

1476
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 4: he was winning with with Cleveland, I just gave Lebrono.

1477
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 4: They were like, you know, what did you say, Dow,

1478
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm coming out. I just gave Lebron ball and got

1479
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 4: out the way. Not nobody respecting that. Nobody's gonna respect that.

1480
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 4: The Kobe Bryant is not gonna that's not gonna resonate

1481
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 4: with him, not coming from Phil Jackson. So that it's

1482
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 4: it's it all means something and tough situations. Can you

1483
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 4: do something to give us the advantage as a coach.

1484
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 4: I'm a coach right like that. I at the small

1485
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 4: level I coach at those things are glaring because you

1486
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 4: coach against coaches that don't.

1487
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 3: Do that, sure, and you benefit. I benefit from that.

1488
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 4: My kids trust me, The parents trust me, and I've

1489
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 4: built up that trust over the last seven eight years

1490
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 4: of coaching. So now they know, at no point in

1491
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 4: the game is it too much?

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01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:50,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So I got a question for you then about

1493
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 2: what this does or could or might mean for Lebron James,

1494
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 2: and I'll ask that to you next with me from Salama,

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01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast.

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01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 2: You'll see this show posted right after we get off

1503
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 2: the air. My over bet is not out of play.

1504
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 2: It's not looking great, right I'm very uh two fifteen yeah,

1505
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 2: not looking good anyway. I'm surprised. You know, Luca's got

1506
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: twenty nine right now. Kyrie seven of eighteen sixteen points

1507
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 2: just didn't really have a profound effect, not enough on

1508
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:02,480
Speaker 2: the basketball game tonight, which is really surprising.

1509
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 3: Man.

1510
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 2: One thing I've noticed about these NBA playoffs, as soon

1511
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 2: as a team does something that makes the world go

1512
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 2: the squad, they don't play another good game the rest

1513
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 2: of the way. Like as soon as Denver rallied back

1514
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 2: from down two oh to Minnesota, Denver's winning another championship.

1515
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 2: Bye bye, And then what did we spend the next

1516
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:37,719
Speaker 2: week doing well? Minnesota the Wolves, Wow, that's coronation time,

1517
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 2: like they're gonna win it all.

1518
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:41,759
Speaker 3: Nope.

1519
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 2: And as soon as they didn't well, Luke and Kyrie

1520
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 2: I believe that's the best.

1521
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:51,759
Speaker 3: Backcourt in the history of the world have ever about

1522
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 3: to be down to oh.

1523
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 2: It was probably the Celtics all along, and the only

1524
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 2: reason it was is because we're bored and we're always

1525
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 2: looking to like, have a cool take and be right.

1526
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 3: As soon as we started it's back court.

1527
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 2: Ever, should have known they'd come out lay an egg

1528
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals.

1529
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 3: Then again, maybe they'll win the next one in roll.

1530
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:27,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, disappointing performance by those two so far in

1531
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:28,799
Speaker 2: this series, big time.

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01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 3: I would agree.

1533
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:37,480
Speaker 4: I would, yes, much to my dismay.

1534
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 3: You were rooting for the Mavericks. Huh, of course I'm

1535
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 3: a Laker man. Come on, I know you are, but

1536
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 3: I can't go with the Celtics.

1537
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 4: Although I like Jaylen Brown, you know, I like Jason Tatum,

1538
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:57,440
Speaker 4: I just can't like the team.

1539
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 2: This championship, that the Celtics might win. Right here, what

1540
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 2: does it do to the little Lakers Celtics thing with

1541
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 2: the championships all time that everyone always freaks out about seventeen.

1542
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 3: Eighteen where it's not little? Where are you guys at?

1543
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 3: Where are you guys?

1544
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 2: I nowhere near? It doesn't matter. I just right, people

1545
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:19,919
Speaker 2: trumpet things about.

1546
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 4: Funny people smaller than us are telling us how little

1547
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 4: we are.

1548
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's not what I said. What I did

1549
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:28,799
Speaker 3: say is I think.

1550
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 2: It's hysterical that people trumpet things that happened before they

1551
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 2: were born. It's kind of the point I was making

1552
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 2: last week about the Yankees. Sure, the Yankees and the

1553
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 2: Dodgers are different, I get that. I just don't think

1554
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:47,719
Speaker 2: it's fun Yankees and Dodgers fans all the championships when

1555
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 2: when you weren't even born. I don't want to hear

1556
01:36:53,080 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 2: about Mickey Mantle. What are we talking about here? The Celtics.

1557
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 2: The Celtics in our lifetime eve from have not been

1558
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,759
Speaker 2: one of the top five teams in the NBA.

1559
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 3: No, so my opinion, don't worry. You still got them.

1560
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 3: They had a two year run. Yeah, that two year run.

1561
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 2: So anyway, just to put a ball on what we

1562
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 2: were talking about earlier, how do you think the Lakers

1563
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 2: head coaching thing is going to finalize? Because it's not,

1564
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 2: And then if it does, how do you feel about it?

1565
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:39,600
Speaker 3: I think.

1566
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 4: I don't think they'll for whatever reason, coach Early. I

1567
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 4: would love for him to be the coach. I don't

1568
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 4: think he's going to take it.

1569
01:37:53,840 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 3: Interesting. I wish he would, but I think we'll be

1570
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 3: continue to search, which I hate. Just want a good

1571
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 3: coach to come in coach my team. That's it. Okay,

1572
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 3: this is interesting. Why do you think he's not gonna

1573
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 3: take it. It's a lot of pressure, it's a lot.

1574
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:26,839
Speaker 3: He doesn't like pressure.

1575
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying that. It's there's no room for error.

1576
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 4: So that's a different level of pressure. Okay, no coach

1577
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 4: in the last six coaches that's finished out their contract.

1578
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 4: That's the type of pressure I'm talking about. And one

1579
01:38:48,960 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 4: of them won a championship. So that's that's why. You know,

1580
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 4: why would you subject yourself to that for a truckload

1581
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 4: of money? I mean the money? Is the money come

1582
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 4: from a basketball family? Yeah, you don't think you know?

1583
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:16,799
Speaker 4: What does he make in a Yukon less?

1584
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 3: Of course, is less less less than half what he

1585
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 3: would make with the Lakers. Yeah. Look, I've learned this.

1586
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 3: I've tried to use the same.

1587
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 2: Like take the free agency late in the career of

1588
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 2: any player who's made well over one hundred maybe in

1589
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 2: some cases two hundred million dollars. Let's take Klay Thompson's

1590
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 2: free agency right now, for example.

1591
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 4: Is money a factor? He will make it a factor.

1592
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 4: It is not a factor if he wants to stay

1593
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:47,560
Speaker 4: in Golden State.

1594
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 3: Well, but you know what I mean, like why why

1595
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 3: anywhere else they're gonna have to pay if then money

1596
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 3: is not a factor? Of course, so be a factor.

1597
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 2: And I I think that that fans feel this way

1598
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 2: often They're like, at what point have you made enough?

1599
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 2: And the answer is always never, you know what I mean.

1600
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 2: I was having this conversation with my lady earlier today,

1601
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,959
Speaker 2: like Mark Cuban right now, when he buys a business,

1602
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 2: why it's almost like just because you need something to do,

1603
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 2: Like it's not like, how is a successful day or

1604
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,679
Speaker 2: a successful year going to change the life of Mark

1605
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 2: Cuban even one iota.

1606
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't walk in those shoes.

1607
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 2: I just know that even when people have made a billion,

1608
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 2: apparently another five million still is five million, and that's

1609
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 2: a lot of freaking money. I think fans think about

1610
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:55,679
Speaker 2: that stuff a lot.

1611
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 3: I really do. And so it's going.

1612
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 2: To pass out. And I don't know if these reports

1613
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 2: are true. But what did it say they offered him

1614
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 2: twelve a year. Yeah, he's making and he's making five

1615
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 2: and I'm supposed to believe that that doesn't that's not

1616
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 2: attractive to him. He's I have a hard time buying

1617
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,679
Speaker 2: that based on the history of human beings.

1618
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 4: It's also what does mama want to live in LA.

1619
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 4: It's a lot of factors. Money is part of it,

1620
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 4: but there's a lot of factors when it comes to

1621
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 4: something like that. So the money's good, right, it's there.

1622
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:44,680
Speaker 4: But the bottom line is if mama's like, I'm not

1623
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 4: feeling LA, then you're like, Okay, it really happens like

1624
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 4: that once you've been in it and doing it and

1625
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 4: you know the grind of a coach and now he

1626
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 4: may be wanting to get off the recruiting carousel and

1627
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 4: n IL carousel at IL Yep. Right, that'll drive you crazy.

1628
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,639
Speaker 4: So it's a lot that goes into it. I hope

1629
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 4: he takes a job. Like I said, Yeah, Jason Tatum

1630
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 4: has again the third leading scorer eighteen points eighteen. Like,

1631
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 4: if they go on to sweep Dallas, there's a good

1632
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 4: chance Jason Tatum won't be the finals MVP.

1633
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 3: That's a bigger conversation. Yeah, he's not so far, not

1634
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 3: even close.

1635
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 4: Again, I said it, I did say it. I did

1636
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 4: say the three letters MVP. You did, And the first

1637
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 4: thing that popped in my head was Stephen MVP.

1638
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 3: The SEGA good evening once again.

1639
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 7: Gentlemen, Yeah, Boston up two games to none in the

1640
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,679
Speaker 7: NBA Finals. They've just beaten Dallas one oh five ninety eight.

1641
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 7: Leading scorer was Drew Holiday for the Celtics twenty six points,

1642
01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 7: eleven rebounds, no turnovers. Jason hate Him shooting six of

1643
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 7: twenty two from the floor. Tonight he had eighteen points

1644
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 7: twelve assists. Jalen Brown had twenty one points, Brown with

1645
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 7: seven assists, six turnovers. Each team from three point range

1646
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 7: about twenty five percent from long distance. Luka Donsich with

1647
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 7: a triple w He had twenty three points in the

1648
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 7: first half. Finished with thirty two points, eleven rebounds, eleven assists.

1649
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 7: Donsich with eight turnovers as well. Kyrie Irving sixteen points,

1650
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:31,719
Speaker 7: six assists in this loss. Boston and the regular season

1651
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,600
Speaker 7: at home went thirty seven and four. They've won the

1652
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 7: two home games to start this best of seven. Dallas

1653
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 7: will be home Wednesday and Friday nights in games three

1654
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 7: and four. This means now in the past three seasons

1655
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 7: Kyrie Irving playoffs included is zero to twelve against the

1656
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 7: Boston Celtics. Game two of the Stanley Cup Final is

1657
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 7: Tomorrow night. At Florida. The Panthers beat Edmonton three to

1658
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:58,679
Speaker 7: nothing in last night's opener. Carlos Alcarez won the French

1659
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 7: Open in five sets, six two in the fifth against

1660
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 7: number four seed Alexander Zaverev. Zverev was the guy that

1661
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 7: beat Rafael Nadal first round. Today's match lasted nearly four

1662
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 7: and a half hours. American Cocoa Golf, one of the

1663
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 7: women's doubles final in college baseball Super Regional number one,

1664
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,600
Speaker 7: Tennessee was a twelve to one winner at home to

1665
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 7: eliminate Evansville, Florida in thirteen innings eliminated Clemson eleven to ten.

1666
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 7: That the College World Series matchups will include Tennessee against

1667
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 7: Florida State, Virginia against North Carolina. Among the games still

1668
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 7: going on tonight, Texas and m trying to advance, has

1669
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 7: taken the lead nine to eight over Oregon in the

1670
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 7: top of the seventh tight end. Darren Waller told the

1671
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 7: Giants he is retiring from the NFL the UFL Football

1672
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 7: Conference finals for this weekend. Saint Louis tonight was hosting

1673
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 7: San Antonio and the Bramos of San Antonio have pulled

1674
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,600
Speaker 7: off the upset twenty five to fifteen, so they go

1675
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 7: to the championship game, which will be held in Saint

1676
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:00,280
Speaker 7: Louis next Sunday. NASCAR victory for Kyle lars And at

1677
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 7: Sonoma his third victory of the year. He has the

1678
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:05,560
Speaker 7: points lead now Yankees Dodgers was quite a weekend in

1679
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,639
Speaker 7: Major League Baseball. Yanks won tonight's game six to four

1680
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:12,679
Speaker 7: over LA Aaron Judge three hits, including his twenty fourth

1681
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 7: home run of the season. He has fifty nine RBIs,

1682
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 7: and Yankee outfielder Juan Sota was out again with a

1683
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 7: sore forearm. MRI had showed inflammation. Trent Grisham was up

1684
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 7: at bat at one point and fans at Yankee Stadium

1685
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 7: were chanting, we want Sodo. Grisham then hit a three

1686
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 7: run homer in the sixth for the lead Yankees with

1687
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 7: six to four, and quite a weekend for MLB in London,

1688
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 7: they reconfigured a soccer stadium, west Ham United Stadium four.

1689
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 7: Major League Baseball attendance was fifty five thousand today and

1690
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:47,719
Speaker 7: the Mets, with three runs in the top of the ninth,

1691
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 7: beat the Phillies six to five. Ten inning wins on

1692
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:54,480
Speaker 7: the road for both Boston and Minnesota and for Seattle

1693
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 7: and Toronto. Toronto went at Oakland sixty four in ten

1694
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 7: and guys the finish in Anaheim today, the Angels wound

1695
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 7: up beating Houston nine to seven, the loss to closer

1696
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 7: Josh Hayter. The winning hit was a two run homer

1697
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 7: in the bottom of the ninth. It was a deep

1698
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:13,759
Speaker 7: flyball to left Houston's left field, went back to the wall,

1699
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 7: seemed to make the catch, collided with the wall and

1700
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 7: dropped the baseball into Row one after review, home run. Wow,

1701
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 7: not an out game over Angels win.

1702
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 3: Back o ouch. Taiko have to say about this? Not

1703
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 3: off its head? Yeah? No, this is better. This is better,

1704
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 3: but still not great, not great.

1705
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, incredible finish, Steve, thank you so much. Great

1706
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 2: stuff tonight Live tire rack dot com Studios. You know,

1707
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,560
Speaker 2: in reading the story I'm reading right now from you

1708
01:46:55,920 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 2: may have a point. I wonder what kind of vibe

1709
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:07,799
Speaker 2: you get. Early who spoke to ESPN about the Laker

1710
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 2: interview that he just had and has told the ESPN

1711
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 2: he will make his decision on Monday. That is tomorrow, obviously,

1712
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,560
Speaker 2: and in Connecticut that's in an hour and a half.

1713
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 2: But listen to some of these, there's a few things

1714
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 2: do unpack here, he said, quote the Lakers made a

1715
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 2: compelling case, presented a compelling vision for him to become

1716
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 2: the next coach, but that he also loves what he

1717
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 2: has built at Yukon plans to make a decision Monday.

1718
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 2: Hurley told the ESPN that he left quote extremely impressed

1719
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 2: with Rob Polinka and Genie Buss and has been spending

1720
01:47:54,640 --> 01:48:02,639
Speaker 2: the day to day weighing his eyes options. All right, well,

1721
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:06,480
Speaker 2: what kind of vibe do you get?

1722
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:11,799
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the great thing about the Lakers

1723
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:14,440
Speaker 4: is they know how to they know how to sell you.

1724
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 4: Sure right, It's it's intoxicating. You come in there and

1725
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 4: you see the history and you know they're pretty much saying, man,

1726
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:26,679
Speaker 4: we'll get you whatever you want. Just run the show.

1727
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 4: You get to make the decisions, you get to do this,

1728
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 4: and boom. You know, we've got nice properties, you know,

1729
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 4: anywhere you guys want to live, and you know, you

1730
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:41,440
Speaker 4: get the whole thing. It's it's, it's, it's it's it's intoxicating.

1731
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 4: It's very seductive. Oh, by the way, we'll make you

1732
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 4: pay you, you know, twice what you're making now, and

1733
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 4: we'll guarantee you, you guarantee it, no matter what. You'd

1734
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 4: be like, Okay, well we're in La, let's do it.

1735
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 4: What is a lot that comes with that? The expectation

1736
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:06,639
Speaker 4: could be too much because the expectation is to win,

1737
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:15,599
Speaker 4: I win a title, period, And so if he's willing

1738
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 4: to step in to those expectations, because those are his expectations,

1739
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 4: not just to make double what he makes and live

1740
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles, then I think it'll be a perfect fit.

1741
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get all that, And at the end of

1742
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:38,720
Speaker 2: the conversation, I agree with your previous point. If I

1743
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 2: had to predict right now. Doing so well with predictions

1744
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 2: this weekend, but if I had to predict right now,

1745
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 2: I would say that he's staying. And it's not the

1746
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,719
Speaker 2: quotes that I'm reading, it's the fact that he gave

1747
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 2: them in the first place. This is pretty unprecedented. I

1748
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 2: would argue Ropa Linka and the Lakers operate on the downlow,

1749
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 2: that they've been doing their whole secret. If they've been

1750
01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 2: doing it the whole time, they JJ reddick, JJ reddick.

1751
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 3: They're like, no, it's not but why do we know

1752
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 3: this now?

1753
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:24,760
Speaker 2: And why did Dan Hurley take the call from ESPN

1754
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 2: and create a countdown clock to his big decision that

1755
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 2: he's going to release tomorrow. Would he play it this

1756
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 2: way if he were leaving? I would argue if he

1757
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 2: were leaving, that's when it becomes a very sensitive issue

1758
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:53,600
Speaker 2: for Yukon. You've got players to talk to, families to

1759
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 2: check in with, You've got a whole thing that happens

1760
01:50:58,280 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 2: when there's a surprise departure.

1761
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 3: Well, maybe that's what he took the weekend to do.

1762
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, but I would I My guess would be,

1763
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 2: if I'll just put it this way, If I were

1764
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 2: Dan and that's what I was doing, I'd let ESPN

1765
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 2: go to voicemail.

1766
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:20,920
Speaker 3: That's what I would do. That makes sense.

1767
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 2: I would not do an interview and tell them, well,

1768
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 2: look really great, really thinking hard about it, call you

1769
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 2: back tomorrow with an answer that feels like an odd

1770
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 2: way to play it. If you're about to leave, you

1771
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 2: U kon. I know, Come on, guys, you're emotionally wrapped

1772
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 2: up in it.

1773
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 3: Thanks.

1774
01:51:55,840 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 2: Well, it's Mark WEATHERDDY from salam Tyra Com Studios coming

1775
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 2: up next. Let's dive a little further into your statement

1776
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 2: that there's trouble if Jason Tatum doesn't get it together

1777
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 2: at least in these next two games, and Boston ends

1778
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 2: up winning the championship.

1779
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 3: What do you do? We'll get into that next on

1780
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:20,680
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

1781
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 2: All right, Tyreck dot Com Studios with e from Sala.

1782
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:36,480
Speaker 2: Boston is up two games to none in the NBA Finals,

1783
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 2: and in none of those two games has Jason Tatum

1784
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 2: scored twenty points or been the leading scorer in the game.

1785
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:47,679
Speaker 3: So talk to me. You just made a statement.

1786
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,600
Speaker 2: What if Boston wins this thing, let's say four or

1787
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 2: five games.

1788
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 3: I don't think it'll go that way, dab LEAs.

1789
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 2: We'll still have something to say about this when it

1790
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 2: gets to their building, I would think. But history suggests

1791
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:03,879
Speaker 2: that with the two nothing start, the Celtics are highly

1792
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:07,680
Speaker 2: likely to be crown champs. What happens if they do?

1793
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 2: Tatum is never the leading scorer. Tatum is not the

1794
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 2: NBA Finals MVP. What happens he becomes a champion, much

1795
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 2: in the vein of Steph Curry. Only problem is Steph

1796
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 2: Curry at two league MVPs and couldn't manage to win

1797
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:38,719
Speaker 2: a finals MVP. Now and that was still the knock

1798
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 2: on Steph Curry. Yep, because Igudala and then Kadi twice

1799
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 2: and then finally he got one.

1800
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 3: And twenty twenty two Iguadala one was well interesting.

1801
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 4: Yeah it was, but he didn't do enough to right,

1802
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 4: like he wasn't showing up in game six is in

1803
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,639
Speaker 4: game set like it just he wasn't doing enough, similar

1804
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 4: to what's happening right now with with with Tatum Tatum,

1805
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum. So that's where it it'll lie. It'll lie

1806
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:22,839
Speaker 4: in the fact that, look, he's an NBA champion. Someone

1807
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 4: came in was the finals MVP, and it'll be a

1808
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 4: blemish on his I don't want to say blemish because

1809
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 4: you know, winning the championship is winning a championship, but

1810
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 4: on his legacy in terms of being the face of

1811
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 4: the league and one of the great all time greats, right, like,

1812
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 4: it matters, It really matters.

1813
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt it matters. I totally get that.

1814
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know, Look we're two games in.

1815
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 2: Silly maybe to start talking about this right now. I

1816
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:05,840
Speaker 2: don't know who is the MVP so far. Yeah, it's

1817
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 2: it's it's I mean, that's that's how good their team is.

1818
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 2: That's how good their team is. That's how good the

1819
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 2: Celtics are.

1820
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 4: But it would be as of now, Jalen Brown, he's

1821
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 4: been the most consistent, even though he had a high

1822
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 4: number of turnovers today.

1823
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, six turnovers, only had twenty one points.

1824
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 4: But you look at Luca on the flip side of that,

1825
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 4: Look at what Luca's doing. He had a you know,

1826
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 4: thirty point triple double. And you know, we're waiting on

1827
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 4: Kyrie to join the party.

1828
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 3: Now.

1829
01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 4: I will say the wing defenders for Boston are tremendous

1830
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 4: and Kyrie's having a tough time going by Jayleen Brown,

1831
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 4: Derek White, Drew Holliday and even Jason Tatum.

1832
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 3: They're just bigger.

1833
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 4: And he's not blown by him like he normally is,

1834
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 4: and they're affecting those off balance shots that he's perfected.

1835
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 4: He's having a tough time scoring. He can't find his rhythm,

1836
01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 4: and that's due to the fact that the Celtics are

1837
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 4: playing excellent perimeter defense.

1838
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 3: Excellent. Yeah.

1839
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 2: I look at this right now, and there's no doubt

1840
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 2: that it's it's way too early to have this conversation,

1841
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 2: but it's it's similar to what I said to you

1842
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 2: earlier on in this show. I look at Jason Tatum,

1843
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 2: and for some reason, it just oozes off of him.

1844
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 3: When I watch him play. He looks insecure in these moments,

1845
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1846
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 2: We've watched the arrivals where he's walking in and and

1847
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 2: you know, he's talked about there was something two years ago.

1848
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to put a finger on it. But when

1849
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 2: they played the Warriors two years ago, he like sent

1850
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 2: text messages to Kobe.

1851
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 3: I mean, Kobe had long passed.

1852
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's weird, but sent you know what

1853
01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 4: I mean, like like be with.

1854
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 2: Me tonight and whatnot, and like it was game four

1855
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 2: and you're up two to one, and and and Steph

1856
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 2: Curry came in and and and took over and had

1857
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 2: an epic performance and the Warriors never lost another game.

1858
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 4: And and that's what we're waiting for him to have

1859
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 4: and big. But that's what that's what the stage is for.

1860
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 4: The stage the NBA Finals that stayed, the Super Bowl,

1861
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 4: this stage, the World Series, this stage is for epic performances.

1862
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:49,360
Speaker 4: So even though you get to the stage and you

1863
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:58,240
Speaker 4: don't stand out right like that's a you thing, and

1864
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 4: you know it could be he's pushing, he's trying opposed

1865
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 4: to letting it come to him, but of course he

1866
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:09,000
Speaker 4: hears it, he feels it.

1867
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:13,200
Speaker 2: This Celtics team is starting to remind me of that

1868
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:16,160
Speaker 2: Pistons team that beat the Lakers.

1869
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 4: Was that they just have more offense. They have more

1870
01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 4: offensive power. Though that that that that that Detroit team

1871
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 4: where they were holding teams to seventy points.

1872
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 2: They were incredible defensively, I'm not I don't mean they're

1873
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 2: reminded me in that way. They're reminding me of them

1874
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 2: because they don't have.

1875
01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 3: A leading score. They just have a bunch of people,

1876
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 3: a bunch of guys.

1877
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 2: I hate, I hate putting Tatum and Brown in that bucket,

1878
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 2: but that's what it looks like right now.

1879
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 4: But Jayalen Brown is is he's he's stepping into this moment.

1880
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 4: He's standing on stage and ready to perform. He's going

1881
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 4: about it in a business like way. Nobody's talking about him.

1882
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 4: There's no pressure there. He's just going about his business

1883
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 4: and he's you can tell him. He's in the floor

1884
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 4: of the game, he's in his bag, he's having a

1885
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 4: good time. There's no there's no pressure.

1886
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 2: No, but it all yeah, the whole the whole thing

1887
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 2: just sort of you get what I'm saying, though, from

1888
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 2: Tatum and Brown, it could just as easily be Holiday.

1889
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 2: The other night it was Porzia's Yep, yeah, I know,

1890
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 2: I know you like White. Derek White has really had

1891
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 2: a wonderful year. They're they're they're they're fantastic. They're fantastic.

1892
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 2: But Jason Tatum is not. I hate he doesn't stand out.

1893
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 3: He just doesn't. And maybe that's just play a ton Yeah,

1894
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:42,520
Speaker 3: maybe that's his lot, and that's okay, that's okay, that's okay.

1895
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 3: Are are Kyrie and Luca are still the best backcourt

1896
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 3: of all time? I want to check in on that,

1897
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 3: are they? Oh? Man, people get to get ahead of themselves.

1898
01:59:57,480 --> 02:00:00,160
Speaker 3: Well not us, man, appreciate you so much much.

1899
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:04,200
Speaker 2: Great having another hang tonight. This thing will all probably

1900
02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:07,120
Speaker 2: be a little bit more buttoned up next time we talk.

1901
02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:08,080
Speaker 3: Yes, it will be.

1902
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 2: Yes, it will all right. From Salama Mark Wheelard. This

1903
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:14,120
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio.