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Speaker 1: Coming up on Special Report, Congressman Louis Gohmert and aviation

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Speaker 1: attorney Robert Clifford share thoughts on the tragic crash near

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Speaker 1: Reagan National in DC and Trump's second.

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Speaker 2: Term could be one of the most consequential presidencies when

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Speaker 2: it comes to climate change initiatives and renewable energy. We'll

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Speaker 2: discuss with founder of Climate Depot Mark Moreno.

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Speaker 1: And self help author Shamika Michelle discusses the naked truth

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Speaker 1: about DEI and leaving the Democrat Party. All that and

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Speaker 1: more right now on Special Report. Well, welcome into Special Report.

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Speaker 1: I am Bo Davidson alongside Emily Finn. We begin our

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Speaker 1: show today with the devastating news of an American Airlines

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Speaker 1: plane carrying sixty passengers and four crew members colliding midair

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Speaker 1: with an Army Blackhawk helicopter near Washington's Reagan National Airport,

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Speaker 1: all sixty seven on board. Both aircraft are presumed dead.

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Speaker 2: Also, the confirmation hearings of Cash Pattel for FBI Director

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Speaker 2: and Tulca Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence began today. Gabbard,

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Speaker 2: like RFK Junior, is a former Democrat that Trump has

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Speaker 2: chosen for a cabinet position. She's also a lieutenant colonel

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Speaker 2: in the US Army Reserve RFK Junior. Patel and Gabbard

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Speaker 2: are expected to have some of the most contentious interrogations.

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Speaker 3: Of the Cabinet hearings.

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Speaker 2: Now joining us to weigh in on all of the

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Speaker 2: items of the day is former Congressman Louis Gohmert of

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Speaker 2: the great state of Texas.

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Speaker 3: Congressman, thank you so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 4: Great to be with you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you well, Congressman.

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Speaker 1: We begin our discussion on a rather somber occasion with

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Speaker 1: the news of a deadly collision of an American airlines

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Speaker 1: playing with the military helicopter. Of course, sir, everyone wants

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Speaker 1: immediate answers, and we don't have them yet. But Trump

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Speaker 1: did send a message to the victims of this collision

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Speaker 1: and thanked first responders by saying, I've been fully briefed

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Speaker 1: on the terrible accident which just took place at Reagan

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Speaker 1: National May God bless their souls. I believe we have

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Speaker 1: a clip of him speaking earlier today as well.

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Speaker 6: So, you had a helicopter going in an identical direction,

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Speaker 6: You had a helicopter that was at the exact same

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Speaker 6: height as somebody going in essentially the opposite direction. You

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Speaker 6: had a plane that was following a track, which is

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Speaker 6: a track that every other plane followed. And I don't imagine,

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Speaker 6: I know, I've heard today that they might have been

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Speaker 6: following the preceding plane, which was pretty close, but not

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Speaker 6: that close the preceding plane, But you wouldn't have even

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Speaker 6: been able to see that because of the direction that

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Speaker 6: the helicopter was coming in it. So you had a

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Speaker 6: confluence of bad decisions that were made, and you have

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Speaker 1: So Congressman, what is your initial thought process on this

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Speaker 1: deadly crash? You know, we often get complacent with the

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Speaker 1: presumed safety of our air travel, which is large good,

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Speaker 1: but it makes one wonder how this could have happened.

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Speaker 5: What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: Well, it does make you wonder you're exactly right bow

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Speaker 4: and having flown that same final approach, that same flat

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Speaker 4: path hundreds and hundreds of times, it does hit close

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Speaker 4: to home, and you do think about and of course

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Speaker 4: you've got Andrews Air Book Force Base, and you've also

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Speaker 4: got the naval air station in an area where helicopters

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Speaker 4: west side of the river. So it's amazing that we

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Speaker 4: have not had more near missus. But as President Trump

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Speaker 4: talked about, what staggers you in four years in the military,

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Speaker 4: no lots of black helicopter pilots, you know, And there

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Speaker 4: have been some indication maybe there were flying with night

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Speaker 4: some have said they were on visual flight rules, but

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Speaker 4: around there normally you're on instrument flight rules. But how

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Speaker 4: that could have been missed? And you see from that video,

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Speaker 4: I know you've watched it, that light coming with the

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Speaker 4: and you just wonder how could they miss it? So

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Speaker 4: that that is the big question. How did they miss it?

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Speaker 4: You know, the plane they couldn't veer vary at all

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Speaker 4: But you would just think a helicopter you've been in imagine,

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Speaker 4: But they got good visual lines of sight. So I

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Speaker 4: don't know how did the helicopter miss them? That keeps

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Congressman, I'm so sorry to cut you off, sir.

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Speaker 2: The President is actually addressing reporters right now on this

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Speaker 2: on this very crash. So we're going to tune in

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Speaker 2: and see what he has to say with us, because.

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Speaker 6: It was a play that was loaded up with lights

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Speaker 6: and everybody. You can see it from Kennedy Center, you

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Speaker 7: So all I.

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Speaker 6: Want is the most competent people in our country to

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Speaker 6: be air traffic control. It's a very important position, and

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Speaker 6: other positions too. By the way, we're not only talking

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Speaker 6: They have to be brilliant with computers, brilliant with graphics.

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Speaker 6: They have to be psychologically really really smart. And you

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Speaker 4: We wos on Canada and Mexico. Twenty five percent of

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Speaker 4: bag's coming on Saturday.

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Speaker 7: That's coming on the first Saturday with no oil terror. No, No,

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Speaker 7: I don't well, I didn't say that.

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Speaker 6: You said that. No, No, we may or may not.

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Speaker 6: We're going to make that determination probably tonight or oil

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Speaker 6: because they send us oil. We'll see, it depends on

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Speaker 6: if they treat us properly, would say down, Look, Mexico

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Speaker 6: and Canada have never been good to us on trade.

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Speaker 6: They've treated as very unfairly on trade. And we will

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Speaker 6: be able to make that up very quickly because we

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Speaker 8: We have all the oil you need.

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Speaker 6: We have all the trees you need, meaning the lumber

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Speaker 6: we have more than almost anybody. And those two categories

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Speaker 6: need anybody's trees. We have to free up some of

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Speaker 6: we don't need what they have. And for us to

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Speaker 6: because of that, they're causing US hundreds of thousands of deaths.

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Speaker 6: So China is gonna end up paying a tariff also

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Speaker 6: But China has to stop sending fentanyl into our country

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Speaker 6: and killing our people. It's any media thesations between messing

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Speaker 1: Has signaled the US maybe a bounce its police troops

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Speaker 3: How you made a.

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Speaker 7: Decision, I don't know who said that. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: We're we're not involved in Syria series of its own

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Speaker 6: mess They got enough messes over there. They don't need

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Speaker 5: How DCA lost.

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Speaker 7: Nuts, Well, that's part of competence right there. They shouldn't

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Speaker 7: have that happen right there, is what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 7: Competence would be you're not gonna have a shortage.

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Speaker 6: But if you had the right people, you wouldn't need

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Speaker 6: as many people either.

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Speaker 2: Do you know if there was.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: You're telling me.

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Speaker 2: So you said earlier today that you had not spoken

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Speaker 9: When was the last time you spoke with him?

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Speaker 2: And has President she responded to you or asked to

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Speaker 7: I won't comment on either of them, but we're doing

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Speaker 7: very well with regard to both.

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Speaker 2: The reports that she might ask of you in order

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Speaker 9: Is that something that you would ever do.

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Speaker 7: We never discussed him.

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Speaker 2: You had said earlier that we would get more details

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Speaker 2: about the victims on the plane.

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Speaker 3: Can you get more on that now?

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Speaker 6: I have a lot of details, but it's something that

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Speaker 6: Know that I have the full details.

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Speaker 9: Were a lot of young people, young.

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Speaker 7: People, great people, great athletes, great skaters. Very sad situation

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Speaker 7: from numerous countries. Thank you very much, everybody, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: All right, we were just tuning in to President Trump

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Speaker 2: to continue our discussion from earlier. Congressman right there, President

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Speaker 2: out and was saying that DEI hires could have been

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Speaker 4: Well under the Biden administration and somewhat in the Obama administration,

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Speaker 4: they definitely did, and it did affect the competence. When

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Speaker 4: you're choosing people because of the color of their skin

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Speaker 4: based on true merit. And you can see one of

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Speaker 4: the things President Trump does, he didn't care about any

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Speaker 4: seen it, we've seen it in the military. It's just

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Speaker 4: what made America great was the ability to choose people

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that was an effect on those

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Speaker 4: if it was an effect of the poor military guys

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Speaker 4: that went down with that black Hawk, but it has

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Speaker 4: been a factor in our military, in all of our

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Speaker 4: government operations. So that's why there's so much insistence in

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Speaker 1: Well, Congress, going to ask you too, because we don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of time with you left, and we

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Speaker 1: so appreciate your wisdom on this. But when we turn

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Speaker 1: to Cash Ptel and his hearing today, speaking of skin

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Speaker 1: color and merit, he's certainly faced a lot of scrutiny

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Speaker 1: for his skin color when actually he does have tremendous

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Speaker 1: merit to become the FBI director. We had a clip,

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Speaker 1: Cash handled these this onslaught of criticism towards him.

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Speaker 4: I thought Cash handled it extremely well. He and his

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Speaker 2: Despite a lack of leadership from California's Democrat officials to

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to special report.

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Speaker 2: Residents of Los Angeles County are starting the process to

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Speaker 1: Keeping in mind how Newsome and Bass prioritized implementing progressive

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Speaker 10: Yes, I mean this is every time something bad happens

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Speaker 3: His policies could collapse.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Special Reports with the news of a

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Speaker 2: And well, there may be no immediate answers. Aviation experts

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Speaker 1: It's unfortunately on a somber news day, Robert, but as

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Speaker 1: what is your initial reaction to the reasons behind this

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Speaker 11: This Well, certainly the NTSB will examine that issue, but candidly,

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Speaker 11: I mean, listen, no conversation about this can take place

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Speaker 11: There's no question that understaffing is going to impact perform ormance.

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Speaker 11: When you have someone who has the multitask on these

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Speaker 11: Though the helicopters can go under planes that are well

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Speaker 8: It's like you're when you're driving your car and the.

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Speaker 11: Guy from moves in front of you from right to

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Speaker 11: But the real problem is that airport is a very

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Speaker 11: That adds to the congestion. Then add to that that

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Speaker 11: And then now this is a training mission, and you

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Speaker 8: But tell me how.

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Speaker 11: Experienced those helicopter pilots were at that particular difficult airport

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Speaker 8: View about what occurred, and what occurred.

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Speaker 11: Was a difficult communication problem caused by I think the

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Speaker 11: difficulties with the BYLO training comingling with the commercial air

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Speaker 11: craft in the same airspace, and they've got to put

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Speaker 11: a stop to it. There's no reason why the FAA

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Speaker 11: right now and the Secretary of Transportation and the Pentagon

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Speaker 11: can't put a temporary halt on helicopter traffic at that

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Speaker 11: airport while they investigate this crash.

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Speaker 8: More fully.

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Speaker 11: Of sixty seven people that perished in a preventable event,

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Speaker 11: that's just awful, it is.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely breaks your heart. Like you said, preventable. This

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Speaker 2: didn't have to happen. It's hard to fathom how a

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Speaker 2: collision like this could even occur. We really appreciate your

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Speaker 2: insight into this, and as the investigations are underway, we

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Speaker 2: have to remember the public and especially the victims' families,

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Speaker 2: they deserve answers about what led to this collision. It

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Speaker 2: may create some natural anxiety for all travelers.

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Speaker 3: At this point.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's a legitimate fear, considering you know,

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Speaker 2: many close calls in recent days.

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Speaker 11: Oh sure, I mean, look, I'd be the first to

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Speaker 11: tell you that Number one I do believe is very

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Speaker 11: safe to travel by in all modes of aviation of

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Speaker 11: commercial transport. The problem, of course, is when something goes wrong,

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Speaker 11: it's deadly. Unlike when something goes wrong in an intersecond collision,

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Speaker 11: people can survive. You know, I'm a lead counsel in

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Speaker 11: the Boeing litigation for the Ethiopian crash well the seventh

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Speaker 11: thirty seven Max eighth. We started a trial in Chicago

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Speaker 11: on April seventh. That plane hit the ground at six

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Speaker 11: hundred miles an hour at a forty five degree angle.

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Speaker 11: There's you know, there's no survivability from something like that.

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Speaker 11: Last night, when I heard about this, I actually thought

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Speaker 11: there might there was a chance for survival because of

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Speaker 11: the altitude involved and the speed of the aircraft involved.

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Speaker 11: I didn't necessarily and plus that it went into the Potomac.

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Speaker 11: I thought that possibly, you know, might have been given

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Speaker 11: a little bit of an edge. But I was wrong,

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Speaker 11: that wrong about that because I didn't appreciate initially the temperature.

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Speaker 11: I mean, the passengers, even if they did survive, and

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Speaker 11: only autoposes will tell us this, they had at best

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Speaker 11: thirty to forty minutes given the temperature of you know,

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Speaker 11: being as cold as it was. So this is something

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Speaker 11: that when even the President this morning called it preventable,

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Speaker 11: as well as the Secretary of Transportation called it preventable.

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Speaker 8: Even Senator Warner called it preventable.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's talk about that, er. What does the word

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Speaker 5: preventable mean?

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Speaker 1: Because as I was listening to that pressor early with

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Speaker 1: President Trump, he talked about the flight levels being about

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Speaker 1: the same and how you know, of course aircraft can

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Speaker 1: go above below, but they were flying at about the

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Speaker 1: same altitude and it doesn't seem that the American pilot

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Speaker 1: did anything wrong. He's on a typical approach, but you

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Speaker 1: have a helicopter coming in from the opposite direction. Now,

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Speaker 1: if ATC is telling the helicopter can you see it,

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Speaker 1: and he's got the wrong aircraft in sight, is it

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Speaker 1: now the helicopter pilot's position to react to what they're

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Speaker 1: seeing or was it the controller's responsibility to say, what

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Speaker 1: aircraft do you see?

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Speaker 5: These are the ones to be looking out for.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out where the load of

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Speaker 1: responsibility comes.

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Speaker 8: Well, you're certainly hitting a nail on the head.

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Speaker 11: And I think that the President meant, and I think

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Speaker 11: he's right when we talk about preventable, if there had

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Speaker 11: been clear communications between the ATC and that helicopter pilot,

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Speaker 11: this crash would never have occurred. And I think that's

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Speaker 11: what the President was referring to. Is that's what I

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Speaker 11: took it to refer to. And that's what my own

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Speaker 11: expert witnesses who I consult with already are telling me.

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Speaker 11: So it's when we're talking about preventable, we're talking about

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Speaker 11: that those been like shifts passing in the dark, but

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Speaker 11: they would have passed, people would have survived.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, so you compare this crash to a crash

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Speaker 2: in two thousand in Chicago where you represented WGN personality

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Speaker 2: Bob Collins, in which the poor communication or lack of

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Speaker 2: communication of ATC led to that collision. So what happened

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Speaker 2: there and is it similar to the implications to last

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Speaker 2: night's collision in DC.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's funny.

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Speaker 11: Now's the time for us to bring up this understaffing

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Speaker 11: because when you look at the Bob Collins crash, and

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Speaker 11: that was in a smaller neighborhood airport, if you will,

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Speaker 11: just north of downtown Chicago, and the communication there by

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Speaker 11: ATC was there were problems with two planes trying to

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Speaker 11: make the landing at the same time, one with a

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Speaker 11: high wing, one with a low wing.

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Speaker 8: And guess what.

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Speaker 11: The high wing guy was on the bottom, the low

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Speaker 11: wing guys on the top, and they didn't know that

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Speaker 11: they were coming together on a collision course.

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Speaker 8: And that's the communication issue.

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Speaker 11: So and it's a small airport where there was the

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Speaker 11: ATC guy had more things going on than he could

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Speaker 11: handle himself. Now let's talk about what we're learning about

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Speaker 11: this tower. That you've got one person doing the work

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Speaker 11: for two people. And in spite of what I've said

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Speaker 11: about it seemed like that the ATC is giving correct

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Speaker 11: instruction to the helicopter pilot. You know, maybe he turned

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Speaker 11: his head away to look at another one, and that's

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Speaker 11: why when he came back and said, hey, I haven't

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Speaker 11: heard back from this guy yet, and then within moments

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Speaker 11: there's this crash.

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Speaker 5: It's too instantaneous. It happens in an instant you know.

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Speaker 5: And I'm Robert.

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Speaker 1: I think about the Michael Keaton movie Worth I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you've heard about it on Netflix, which was about compensating

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Speaker 1: the victims of nine to eleven. I mean, ultimately, the

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Speaker 1: responsibility will fall on some one or some agency, and

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Speaker 1: you're an attorney who deals with these liabilities. In your estimation,

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Speaker 1: do you think that that most likely will be the

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Speaker 1: FAA personnel as you mentioned, or the black Hawk pilot

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Speaker 1: who maybe did not heed the warnings or did not

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Speaker 1: see them.

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Speaker 11: Here's inside baseball, here's what's going to happen. You have

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Speaker 11: commercial interest here with American and PSA, and there is

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Speaker 11: insurance on that aircraft, probably two point five billion that's

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Speaker 11: provided by the global insurance markets in London and Zurich

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Speaker 11: and Japan and Germany. They're there. Then you have ATC,

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Speaker 11: which is government. Then you have the military, which is government.

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Speaker 11: So these cases are a little different because the case

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Speaker 11: against the commercial operators are jury cases. The case against

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Speaker 11: the government both fronts are judge only cases, which is

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Speaker 11: why this is going to end up in federal court.

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Speaker 11: And the likely scenario is that the insurers and the

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Speaker 11: Department of Justice, we'll all say, maybe we have one person,

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Speaker 11: one law firm, one mediator, one can findberg try to

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Speaker 11: mediate these cases with these families to resolve them. And

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Speaker 11: while that's going on, the rest of us sit down

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Speaker 11: and make business decisions about what percentage of a fund

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Speaker 11: should be paid by which entity, because certainly they're going

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Speaker 11: to criticize the pilots, even though I, like you, I

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Speaker 11: believe these pilots were on an approved course doing what

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Speaker 11: they're supposed to do with the directions and following the

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Speaker 11: directions they were given. But that's kind of the fund

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Speaker 11: process that goes on in a lot of these cases.

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Speaker 1: I hope that answers it does, and you've given us

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Speaker 1: really a lot to think about it. I'm glad we

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Speaker 1: had you on today because that's just a wealth, like

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Speaker 1: you said, inside baseball, and it's tough because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: with worth you put a dollar amount on a life,

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Speaker 1: which is so difficult to do when clearly more reviews

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Speaker 1: need to be made about the FAA. So thank you

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Speaker 1: Robert so much for your insight today.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: has just been hitting the ground running full steam ahead

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Speaker 2: with transforming our.

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Speaker 3: Country for the better.

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Speaker 2: And part of that, it's being reported, is Elon's Department

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Speaker 2: of Government Efficiency.

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Speaker 3: It's intent on.

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Speaker 2: Rigorously reviewing various government agencies spending practices. So how do

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Speaker 2: you think that this is going to affect the IRS's

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Speaker 2: behavior toward taxpayers.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's definitely going to change it. I mean, DOGE

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Speaker 12: is a shining light on a bloated agencies like the IRAS.

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Speaker 12: And under the last administration, the Biden Harris administration, the

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Speaker 12: IRS received billions of dollars worth of funding eight billion

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Speaker 12: I think from the so called Inflation Reduction Act you know,

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Speaker 12: fueling enforcement targeting small businesses and families, not just millionaires

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Speaker 12: and billionaires, which is the craziest thing. They were targeting

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Speaker 12: every day Americans. And we saw this across the board too,

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Speaker 12: not just with the IRS, right, We saw this with

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Speaker 12: the FBI targeting parents at school board meetings, et cetera.

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Speaker 12: So really, if this new partner or department delivers, we

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Speaker 12: could see the IRS really focus on transparency and efficiency

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Speaker 12: instead of the overreach that we've seen in the Biden

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Speaker 12: Harris regime. But in the meantime, we just empower Americans

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Speaker 12: with the tools the expertise to really just protect themselves

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Speaker 12: and to push back against unfair treatment.

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Speaker 1: Cameron, you just mentioned small business owners, So I got

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Speaker 1: to know, are there any tax relief options available for

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Speaker 1: those small business owners facing financial difficulties caused by IRS pressure.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: We provide relief solutions like installment agreements and compromise hardship

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Speaker 12: status requests, really just to help these business owners navigate

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Speaker 12: the increased pressure. I mean, we provide tactical solutions to

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Speaker 12: really just help you gain control of your finances, whether

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Speaker 12: it's resolving back taxes, negotiating payment plans, stopping collections Our

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Speaker 12: goal is just basically in this process, to empower you

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Speaker 12: to keep on growing your business, not fighting against the

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Speaker 12: irs all the time.

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Speaker 2: All right, camin We appreciate you telling us more about

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Speaker 2: tex Network USA.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining the show, Thanks for having me. Now,

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Speaker 3: coming up.

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Speaker 2: Next to author Shemika Michelle explains her walk away from

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party and the perils of DEI. We'll be

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Speaker 5: And welcome back to Special Report.

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Speaker 1: One big focus of the nascent Trump two point zero

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Speaker 1: administration is rolling back diversity, equity and inclusion programs in

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Speaker 1: the government and even in the private sector. This even

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Speaker 1: came up in Trump's press conference today regarding the tragic

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Speaker 1: American Airlines crash with an Army helicopter.

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Speaker 2: Our next guest is an author on self help who

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Speaker 2: has spoken about DEI and walking away from the Democrat

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Speaker 2: Party's wokeism. We want to welcome Shamika Michelle to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being with us. Shamika, thank

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Speaker 2: you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely it's great to have you with us in Shamika.

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Speaker 1: You were a part of the walk away movement that

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Speaker 1: created a mass exodus from the Democrat Party. We saw this,

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Speaker 1: you know, everyone from Tulca Gabber to Dave Rube, and

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Speaker 1: they say they didn't really leave the Democrat Party, but

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Speaker 1: rather the party left them. So I want to know

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Speaker 1: was this year experience as well, and if so, why.

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Speaker 13: You know, I didn't even really think about it. Honestly,

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Speaker 13: I would often get on social media and just share

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Speaker 13: my opinion things that I thought were common sense among everybody.

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Speaker 13: I had no idea that I really was more conservative

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Speaker 13: or leaned right until I noticed the people that were

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Speaker 13: flocking to me. I did kind of have questions during

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Speaker 13: Barack Obama's second term, just because it seemed like some

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Speaker 13: of the things that he was pushing I didn't agree with,

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Speaker 13: But I didn't really fully come to understand where I

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Speaker 13: stood until later on when I saw people flocking to

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Speaker 13: my message and then those who were trying to get

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Speaker 13: me canceled or taken off of you know, the social

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Speaker 13: media platforms, that I realized, oh, I'm more conservative and

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Speaker 13: I leaned right. So it was kind of like a

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Speaker 13: gradual awakening, not something that I just decided overnight, like,

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Speaker 13: oh you know it was it. I was just as

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Speaker 13: surprised as everyone else.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome, you know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like common sense you brought that up. That

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Speaker 2: really is a defining attribute of the Conservative party in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, and I think there's a lot of people who,

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Speaker 2: as long as they just participate in political discussion, actually

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Speaker 2: if they have common sense, wake up and realize, oh

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Speaker 2: I am a conservative. So, Shamika, I do want to

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Speaker 2: get your assessment of what DEI programs actually do. This

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Speaker 2: has been, you know, in the news headlines lately, a

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Speaker 2: big focus of the Trump administration. On the surface, they're

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Speaker 2: designed to bring more diversity to the workplace, which is great,

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Speaker 2: but that means that a hire sometimes is solely based

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Speaker 2: upon a factor like race, not even taking merit into consideration.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think is inherently problematic about DEI?

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Speaker 13: What I think is problematic about it is that, at

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Speaker 13: least for black people, there's this narrative painted that we're

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Speaker 13: oppressed or that that we're less than we can't learn,

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Speaker 13: they have to make things easier for us, and I

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Speaker 13: just do not agree with that. You know, I use

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Speaker 13: this analogy all the time. But when you take your

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Speaker 13: dog to a you know, a trainer, you expect that

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Speaker 13: dog to learn how to sit, fetch, roll over, you know,

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Speaker 13: and you you have no thoughts that, oh, maybe my

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Speaker 13: dog can't learn. Maybe instead of my dog learning how

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Speaker 13: to roll over, I should come up with something easier

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Speaker 13: for my dog to be able to do.

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Speaker 3: But this is what we do.

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Speaker 13: With black people all the time, say oh, they can't

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Speaker 13: you know, add and subtract, or oh homework is too

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Speaker 13: oppressive for them, or you know, And it just bothers me,

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Speaker 13: because if we can expect dogs to learn, why can't

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Speaker 13: we expect expect black people to learn and meet the

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Speaker 13: same standards as anyone else. So when it comes to

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Speaker 13: them saying, hey, we got to make this so black

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Speaker 13: people can get in, what you're really saying is that

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Speaker 13: you need to lower the standards because we don't have

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Speaker 13: the aptitude to actually reach the same plateaus as anyone else.

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Speaker 13: And so that's the problem that I have with diversity,

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Speaker 13: equity and inclusion. And I actually say it differently, diversity

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Speaker 13: inclusion and equity so that it can spell die because

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Speaker 13: it seems that anything they put that towards it dies,

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Speaker 13: it's dead. And so I just don't agree with the

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Speaker 13: initiative at all because I believe if you set a standard,

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Speaker 13: anyone should be able to meet it, regardless of race

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Speaker 13: or gender. If that's what the standards are to be

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Speaker 13: able to do that specific job or position, then that's

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Speaker 13: what it is.

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Speaker 5: That's a very very common sense, logical way to frame that. Shomik.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you spell that up for our audience

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't think of it that way.

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Speaker 5: But die dee, that makes so much sense.

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Speaker 1: And I guess the President Trump has his way a

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Speaker 1: lot of DEI will die. On a parallel level, you know,

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Speaker 1: we have a tremendous immigration and border issue that's them

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Speaker 1: from a bad previous administration. Tom Homan has really made

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Speaker 1: good on his promises to establish.

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Speaker 5: A rule of law.

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Speaker 1: How do you view this immediate action on immigration and

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Speaker 1: do you see anything inhumane, problematic, racist, insensitive about it?

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Speaker 13: I don't have any problem with it. Actually. The only

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Speaker 13: problem I have with it is that we're so far behind.

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Speaker 13: We have so many people here and so many people

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Speaker 13: that are actually criminals that you know, we like to

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Speaker 13: paint it as oh, they're seeking refuge. Well, we know

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Speaker 13: that's not the case. We've seen plenty of examples that

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Speaker 13: that's not what they're doing. So my only problem is

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Speaker 13: that we're behind. Let's round them up faster, Let's get

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Speaker 13: them out of here quicker, and let's get to some

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Speaker 13: normalcy as fast as we can. I don't think is racist,

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Speaker 13: and it bothers me when I see people.

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Speaker 3: Try to paint it as a black issue.

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Speaker 13: You know, they say, oh, you should understand your people,

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Speaker 13: you know, were a foreign land, and what No, I

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Speaker 13: don't understand because it's not the same thing. Being brought

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Speaker 13: over on slave ships is not the same as coming

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Speaker 13: on a N two by choice. So I just don't

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Speaker 13: think it's the same. They like to pull on our

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Speaker 13: heartstrings and make it seem as if we should actually

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Speaker 13: have be sympathetic because we're also minoritis, and I just

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Speaker 13: don't agree with that. So if I really were to

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Speaker 13: actually take a stance, I would say, you know, there

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Speaker 13: are two million black people separated from their children, and

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Speaker 13: I don't mean because of the border. I mean because

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Speaker 13: of the fathers that I have faced masked incarceration. Who

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Speaker 13: was It was initiated by Joe Biden, who just left office,

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Speaker 13: so I don't have any sympathy. Just let's let's do

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Speaker 13: it quicker, let's get them out of here faster, and

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Speaker 13: let's move forward.

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Speaker 2: Tamika, I really appreciate the way you've been articulating your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: You certainly have away with words. In fact, you've written

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Speaker 2: a book. It's called Keep It.

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Speaker 3: Naked, which is a self help book.

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Speaker 2: Covering relationships, parenting, religion, divorce, lots of different topics. Tell

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Speaker 2: us what's the primary advice that you share in your book?

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Speaker 13: Just being authentic? You know, live life authentically. I always say,

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Speaker 13: if you know, if your car breaks down on let's

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Speaker 13: say Austin Avenue, but you're lying to the tow truck

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Speaker 13: driver and saying, hey, I'm on Roxborough Road, no one

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Speaker 13: can actually get to you and help you. But once

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Speaker 13: you take off the mask and once you stop lying

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Speaker 13: and be who you really are, if you need help,

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Speaker 13: if you need someone to come and move you from

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Speaker 13: that place to another place, they can do that because

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Speaker 13: you're being honest and you're being truthful. So that's what

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Speaker 13: I encourage everyone to do, to just live life authentically,

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Speaker 13: be who you are, good, bad or indifferent.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Shamiki.

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Speaker 1: In the day and age of injections in social media,

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Speaker 1: people trying to look and be like everyone else, Authenticity

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Speaker 1: still range true. We have to be authentic people. And

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Speaker 1: so I'm glad that you've touched on that very important subject.

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Speaker 1: And on a similar frame of mind, what do you

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Speaker 1: think is the state of racial relations today? You know,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump seemed to bring together many many different races, classes,

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Speaker 1: genders two of them, and religions, yet some insist on

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Speaker 1: still calling him a racist. You can already see the

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Speaker 1: media frame it that way, as we just mentioned with immigration.

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Speaker 5: So what do you say about that?

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Speaker 13: You know, I think how we see race relations really

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Speaker 13: depends on what side you're on, honestly, because I do

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Speaker 13: think that on the right, we just really focus on

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Speaker 13: morals and values. What do we agree with, how do

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Speaker 13: we live our lives? You know? But on the left,

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Speaker 13: they are constantly focused on race. That's why you have

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Speaker 13: these race obaters such as Al Sharpton that's always looking

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Speaker 13: for something to say, oh, we're not equal, we still

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Speaker 13: need to march. But I firmly believe that if you

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Speaker 13: continue to say we shall overcome, you fail to see

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Speaker 13: that we have overcame. We are not where we used

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Speaker 13: to be, and it is it's a shame that we're

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Speaker 13: pushing that on children coming up, teaching them that they

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Speaker 13: are inherently behind or evil based on skin color. We

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Speaker 13: have to get away from that, and I just really

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Speaker 13: think that we have to start shaming these race vaters

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Speaker 13: and just being a bit more vocal and open that, no,

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Speaker 13: we're not where we used to be. Times have changed,

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Speaker 13: we have progressed as a country, and it's just not

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Speaker 13: where it used to be, and we want allow people

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Speaker 13: to continue to tell those lies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very very well said.

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Speaker 2: Now, Shamikha, before we let you go, where can our

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Speaker 2: viewers go to find your book, find out more about

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Speaker 2: you and follow your work.

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Speaker 13: So I always say, if you go to Shamika Michelle

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Speaker 13: dot com, you find me there, you can find me anywhere.

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Speaker 2: All right, Samika, thank you so much, thanks for being

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Speaker 2: on Special Report today.

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Speaker 13: Thank you, thanks again for having me.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Shamikha, and.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to our viewers.

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Speaker 5: And you know, we want to hear from all of

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Speaker 5: you on ghetter.

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Speaker 8: Today.

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Speaker 5: Really was a great show.

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Speaker 1: Emily, We'll see you tomorrow and now stay tuned as

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Speaker 1: always for war Room