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Speaker 1: was eighteen and then when I was thirty eight, Only

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00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: five of those years was spent in a black environment.

426
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: So Rolling Vibe was like a home coming experience. Um.

427
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: But it was very much a sliver of my career.

428
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: So when I went back, when I went to Rolling Stone,

429
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: it was more like of what I was used to,

430
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: you know. UM, really quick, funny story. Because I was

431
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 1: a big bed from Uptown and because I was going

432
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: to work at a hip hop magazine, the premier one

433
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: besides the Source. Um, people were shocked to find out

434
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: that I had a career because when I was a

435
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: hip hop hotti, big bad from Uptown, you didn't leave

436
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: with your career, your education, none of that. It was

437
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of me and my all my girlfriends. We

438
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: were all going to amazing schools, like I went to it,

439
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: like you um, all my friends, like you know, went

440
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: to great schools. We all had careers. But in the club,

441
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about any of that. People just like

442
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: bad girls like coming through like white, you know what

443
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean. So we didn't lead what she's saying, Yeah

444
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: you didn't that, unlike today everybody leads with that. Yeah. Yeah,

445
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: when we left with like we look good like because

446
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: we also too were very acutely aware of the fact

447
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: that we had student loans. We had to still lok good.

448
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: So you know, we were definitely leading with I of like,

449
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: but that's a whole love of story. Look carry listen

450
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: talk talk that talk. It's called naked. We leave with

451
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: ied some who paying up, what's going on? What's going on?

452
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: So were like not, you know, kind of letting people

453
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: know who we were nine to five. So when I

454
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: get the vibe, it's the first time in my life

455
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: where my personal life and my professional life allive. And

456
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: I'll never forget I was in I was at maybe

457
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: my first two weeks or something and I came into

458
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: the conference room for a meeting, UM and Dame Dash

459
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: was there. Not knew. Dame was like, Dami some hall

460
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: and Dame Dashes. Moment for you guys who don't know

461
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: Dam Dash is he's one of the founders of Rockefeller.

462
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: The jay Z Empire were really cool. At one point.

463
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: He was married to Sin. They were, you know, business

464
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: partners of the MS degree and you know a lot

465
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: of things that jay Z has now and a lot

466
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: of the things that um, he's even aware of. A

467
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: lot of it was informed by Dame dask name Dash

468
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: literally introduced jay Z to art. That's a whole numbers.

469
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm going to the room, Dame Dashes there.

470
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: You like, what the funk you're doing here? I said, Oh,

471
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm the fashionable the advertising director. He's like, how you

472
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: get that job? I was like, when you buy my

473
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: office later and I'll explain it to you. But people

474
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: were like, oh my god. So it was so funny

475
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: because so many people would be like, oh my god,

476
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: I thought you were disapparty girl. I was like, yeah,

477
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: that's how it was. You moved so differently, you separated

478
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: the world. No one really knew that's insane to me.

479
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: That's insane to me. Yeah, no one knew. And now

480
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: I look at all my friends, Like one of my

481
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: friends that you sang out within the streets, she's like

482
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: the CMO at Global, Um, what's the global? What's the concert?

483
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: We always global citizen. I mean like, like, but all

484
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: my friends are doing incredibly well. We all have like

485
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: really big gigs and ship. But we were outside, like

486
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: when I said and when I said outside, we understand.

487
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: I understand way before y'all was using outside. But I

488
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: was like, you're like, I've been outside. Y'all just got

489
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: really outside. Okay, God, we was outside outside and um,

490
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: so when I was at when I was at Rolling Stone,

491
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: I knew whether it was gonna be um. But the

492
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: difference was is that I had changed. I had been

493
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: in an environment where I didn't have to explain why

494
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: my hair styles changed. I had been in an environment

495
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 1: where I didn't have to um explain to people. Um,

496
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: you know why Fourth of July wasn't a big deal

497
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: for me. I was used to not being in an

498
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: environment where I was the only one. And so when

499
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: I go back to Rolling Stone, it is back to

500
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: business as usual. But I was different, and so that

501
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: place was never gonna hold me. So I came in,

502
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: I did an amazing, amazing job. I hit all my numbers,

503
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: and when I got my bonus check and I deposited

504
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: in the bank and I waited for it to clear,

505
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: and then I resigned. Why because I knew I didn't

506
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: want to do that any longer. You know what I mean,

507
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: it's so um, And I certainly didn't want to do

508
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: it at a place like Rolling Stone, which was really

509
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: devoid of any kind of respect for um, for black culture,

510
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: which is in turn pop culture, right um. You know

511
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: you know they would wrapped up, put a dead beetle

512
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: on the cover, then Beyonce, and I just was like,

513
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: this doesn't makes sense to me. Um, And I didn't

514
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: want to be in the space like that after having

515
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: in the mecca of like black excellence like Vibes. And

516
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: again I applaud you because I'm taking it back to

517
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: the origin story, the genesis. You knew who you were

518
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: and you couldn't compromise it, and it didn't feel authentic

519
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: to who you were. And now after you have worked

520
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: ad Vibe, I appreciate that people will tell you all

521
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: the time, go here, because it's bigger in the name

522
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: and everybody needs a name and a title on your resume.

523
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: You absolutely do, but when you realize it doesn't fit

524
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: the brand of who you are, you have to make movies.

525
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: It's that time where we have to pay the bills

526
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: so that I could put gas in the car. So

527
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: fast forward if you need to. I'm back on the

528
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: other side of the break. Every champion and care every

529
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: Chappion is to be a champion, a champion and carry

530
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: Chappion and carry Chappian a champion and carry Chappion and

531
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: carry Chappion spots, and then the same make and make

532
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: it work. Carry Chappion and carry Chappion is to be

533
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: a champion, a champion. They carry champion, the champion. They

534
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: care with Chappion, Andy care with Chappion, and then the

535
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: same ake and naked work. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Naked.

536
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: Betty's still here making us laugh and giving us, uh

537
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: some stories that I'm sure many of you did not know.

538
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: I know I didn't enjoy Bebby Smith on Naked. What

539
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: did you do next? Oh, that's when I quit my

540
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: job to become the thing that I am now. So

541
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: I literally when I resigned. I told my boss. He said,

542
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Wait a minute. You're on the fast

543
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: track to become a publisher, like you have such a

544
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: great career trajectory, like don't leave. And I was like,

545
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: I have to, And he's like, but what are you

546
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: gonna do? So I'm going to write and I'm going

547
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: to sing, I'm gonna dance, I'm gonna act, I'm gonna jumg.

548
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at either I'm gonna jump out of planes.

549
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: And he looked at me. He said, you're having a

550
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: midlife crisis. I'm starting years old the time. I was like,

551
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm not having I said, first of all, black people

552
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: don't have midlife crisis, Like you can't afford to have

553
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: a midlife crisis. We crisis and all the time, damn it,

554
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: but go So I was like no, and um when

555
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: I quit. That's when I went on my journey of

556
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: of of trying to become a TV person. Now the

557
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: and I I took well, First, I did the CPO

558
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: version of Eat Pray Love. I went to Zambia. No,

559
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: I went to I went to Zambia, South Africa, Brazil,

560
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: Costa Rica, and I just like kind of immersed myself

561
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: and just my kind of cultural diaspora like travel and

562
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: watched that corporate self off of me. And then when

563
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: I came back, I took all kinds of classes, improv classes,

564
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: acting classes, photography classes, DJ classes, writing classes, anything that

565
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: I've ever been interested in. I was like, Okay, I

566
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: want to try and apply myself. I want to get

567
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: some kind of information about it. And so I did

568
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: all that and then Vibe called me back and and um,

569
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: I said, well, I'm not interested in having a job,

570
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: and I certainly don't want the job that I once had,

571
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: And they said, well you want to do? I said, well,

572
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: I want to write, and I want to do whenever

573
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: you guys have someone who has to go on TV

574
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: and talk about the brand, I want to be that person.

575
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: And so they gave me an opportunit me and that's

576
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: how I saw it, building my reel and I was

577
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: started writing and then I started writing for Paper magazine

578
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: and Interview magazine and Glamour and Essence and all these things.

579
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: And I did a lot of great work in that time.

580
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: And then the in the in between all of that,

581
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: because Vibe only lasted for like maybe a year, and

582
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: then there was a regime change. The second time, I

583
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: was at Vibe as the fashion avert, I mean as

584
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: a fashion editor at large, which by the way, guys,

585
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know that these positions still exists. But

586
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: at large it literally means you don't have to come

587
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: into the office and you still get a check, which,

588
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: oh that's what everyone does. But I'm telling you it's

589
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: it's it was just novel and on heard the effect

590
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: then it's amazing. So um, you know, I just kind of,

591
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, did all these things and then the Vibe

592
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: get ended. And then I went broke. I was broke

593
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: from no one know it's that bad thing. It's a

594
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: good thing because I was broke, but I had a

595
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: really amazing time. I was broken, not broken, I was broken.

596
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: The chapter in my book is called Broke but Blissful.

597
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: So I literally, um took that time to really do

598
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: all the things I wanted to do, and I was

599
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: successful in that. I was on BT, I was on

600
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: E I was on VH one doing all these talking

601
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: head things again building up the reel, and I was

602
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: writing for all these publications. From doing everything I want

603
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: to do, but the money it doesn't match up yet,

604
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: and the rubber hit the row, like maybe about three

605
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: years into the journey, when I was just really bad

606
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: broke and I couldn't even pay my rent and I

607
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: was going to housing court and different things like that,

608
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: and then I decided to create Dinner with Bevy, which

609
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: is my business that I created where I connected um

610
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: celebrities with high end luxury fashion brands and fashion magazines

611
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: and I did dinners for everyone from Interest Elba to

612
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: Kerry Washington to Phararell and I mean the list goes

613
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: on and on and on. So I was able to

614
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: become an accidental entrepreneur. I would have I would have

615
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: never become an entrepreneur if I hadn't been broken, So

616
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: that gave me even more So I always tell people,

617
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: like everything is as it should be, Everything is as

618
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: it should be. Like again, if I had not gone broke,

619
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: I would have never known how resilient I was. I

620
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: would have never known that I could actually eat what

621
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: I killed, because it's a it's a different type of

622
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: muscle that you have to use when you don't know

623
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: where your money is coming from, talk about it, and

624
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: when you know that you can actually go out and

625
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: go get some money, get up, get out and get

626
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: something that gives you a whole another sense of confidence,

627
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: sense of self. So I'm always very grateful also too,

628
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: when I look back on all the dinner with Betty

629
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: gave me, which dinner with Bebby is the reason why

630
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: now when I do my radio show Bevelations, people want

631
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: to come and talk to me because they know me

632
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: from dinner with Betty. Like I have a relationship with

633
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: Karvie Washington because of dinner with Bevy. You know, Pharrell

634
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: Dinner with Bevy. He was my first guest on my

635
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: radio show. For like all these people because they know

636
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: me from I'm the lady who did dinner with Betty

637
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: and the lady who does that trust me. So if

638
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: I hadn't done that, would my radio show be a

639
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: Gracie Award winning radio show? Would I be able to

640
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: get the kind of guests that I get. I don't know,

641
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: I think not. I love all of this. I didn't

642
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: want to cut you off. I love all of this.

643
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: It's inspiring, you said, broke, but but blissful. Um. I

644
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: think in the moments when we do have to hustle,

645
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: because all I hear is your hustle hand is hard,

646
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: and you do it differently and okay, wait wait right,

647
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: so wait wait, so now check this one. Now check

648
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Speaker 1: this off. Arya, I don't believe in hustle. Oh tell me. Okay,

649
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: so what I was doing was not hustling, because let

650
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: me tell you why I wasn't a hustle. Tell me

651
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: I was being strategic because everything that I did connected

652
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: me to where I wanted to end up to. Why

653
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: do you not call it? Consider that a hustle, because

654
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: hustle is you do whatever it takes to get that money.

655
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: How many times have you heard people say they're going

656
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: after the bad. I don't go after the bad. You were.

657
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't the money for you. You were creating the

658
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: brand of what you wanted to do in the life

659
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: in which you wanted to live. I I see, I see.

660
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: And the hustle means that I would have taken so

661
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: many other jobs which you didn't, which I didn't. If

662
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: I was just hustling to make money, I wouldn't have

663
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: been broke for for seven years, for five years, I wouldn't.

664
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't, you know, because I had a lot of

665
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: opportunities coming my way. Can I can I ask your question?

666
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: Established you're very specific about the years. So, so what

667
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: happened at the end of the fifth year, Because you're like,

668
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: for five years, I was broke for five exact years,

669
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: For five exact years, you know, you were broke. What

670
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: happened year six? So so, but it was seven years

671
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: from when I quit Rolling Stone. So seven years is

672
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: the number of seven is the number of completion. But

673
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: I have money still for two years of the journey.

674
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: But so five years broke. So at that fifth year,

675
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: when I first quit Rolling Stone, I get an opportunity

676
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: from Bravo to be a co host for the Tim

677
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: Guns Show. You said, and Andy Cohen at this point

678
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: is a TV executive, not a TV personality, and a

679
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: friend of mine, the white gay friend of mine, was

680
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: on Fire Island, which is a white gay enclave in

681
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: New York City, and they're talking and he's like, Andy,

682
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: what you working on. He's like, Oh, I'm trying to

683
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: find someone to co hosts at Tempt Guns Show. I

684
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: need a woman who's funny and knows fashion. He's like,

685
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: my friend Betty Smith just quit her job in fashion

686
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: and wants to do TV. I go on the audition

687
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: on a Monday. I get the contract on the Wednesday. Yeah,

688
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: because I slay that audition. I test very well, but

689
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: so it doesn't life. I've always been a great test taker.

690
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: So I get the contract, and because I'm a executress,

691
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: I see how bad the contract is. And I literally

692
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: am like this is really bad to my lawyer. And

693
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: my lawyer is like, okay, I'll go back and try

694
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: and negotiate. Well, Bravo was like, no, it is what

695
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: it is. And you even take it that we're gonna

696
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: move on. Like my lawyer says, Betty, you know they're

697
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: not willing to budge. You know, we don't have a choice,

698
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: I said, but we always have a choice. Go back

699
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: and tell them we're not going to do it. He

700
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: goes back and tells them We're not going to do

701
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: They gag. And then Andy Coleman's office calls me and

702
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: says Andy would like to meet with you. And it

703
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: was him and his boss and I gonna win. And

704
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: I have one literally probably ten thousand dollars worth of clothes,

705
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: like I'm like masson me and gyyard and all the

706
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: things Darling I'm looking like. And this is like literally

707
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, So I'm like two thousand

708
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: and six, So I'm like done, WHOA. So I'm coming

709
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: in looking like fashion now. He said, you're even better

710
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: in real life than you are on tape. We're gonna

711
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: work together and for seven years. And he put me

712
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: in pilots, he put me on different shows, different things.

713
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: He was just trying to find a fit. And so

714
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: now I'll be fast forward to that end of the

715
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: fifth year. My friends in town wants to go and

716
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: see watched What Happens Live. I call Andy, I say

717
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: she wants to come. He's like, the the clubhouse is packed,

718
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: but if you come in Barton for me on the show,

719
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: I'll give you a ticket a seat for your friend.

720
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: I have a holding deal with BT. I'm I supposed

721
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: to be want any other TV for anyone else, So

722
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm like the p et executives ain't gonna be watching

723
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: and watch What Happens Live. So I go and do it.

724
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: When I get done with the show, Andy SAIDs I

725
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: know what I want to do with you. I have

726
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: a show but with Derek j and MS Lawrence from

727
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,879
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728
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: And that's how Fashion Queens came to be, and that's

729
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: what broke my That's what broke my broke period in

730
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: my life. And I was knock Wood God's witness. Yeah,

731
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: we never went back. We never went back to housing court.

732
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: You have a tax problem, but I never went back.

733
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: But listen to carry carry. And I want to say

734
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: this to our people too. We fear the wrong stuff

735
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: if rich people. I've never had to do a bankruptcy,

736
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell you all this bankruptcy for rich

737
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: people and for all people should be looked upon as

738
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: restructuring debt. Second, a tax problem is means that instead

739
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: of them holding your money and giving you back your

740
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: money that you already paid into it and there was

741
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: an interest free loan to the rs. Now it means

742
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: that you owe them some money and as long as

743
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: you have a conversation with them, no mistake. Yeah, I

744
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: need everybody who owes the government some money, just send

745
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: him a message talking about no mistake. No, I'm kidding you,

746
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm with you. I'm with you on

747
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: the idea of why do I give you my money

748
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: so you can hold onto it to give it back

749
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: to me. I don't believe in that anymore. But that's

750
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: that's also an education that we have to start to

751
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: learn when we get to as we start to make money.

752
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: People aren't comfortable with that. I. I, you've listened. I

753
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: start making money. My accountant would pay all my stuff

754
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: up front, and I'm like, hold on, hold on, why

755
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: are you paying all of my bills all at once,

756
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: on time, paying all of them in full amounts. I

757
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: don't understand that. Never I said, it's a cultural thing.

758
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: I got used to it, but it was a cultural thing,

759
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: and so you're right, but it's it's a thing of like,

760
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at all the most successful

761
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: people when you read that, because I'm a big I

762
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: love biographies, When you read biographies of really successful people,

763
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: they don't threat over the same things that were taught

764
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: to threat over because they know that as long as

765
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: you have the ability to make money, which people like

766
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: you and I have the ability to have multiple revenue streams,

767
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: yeah you don't get one check. You listen, I I.

768
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: And that's what that's what COVID is teaching everybody else

769
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: this next generation. You have to have multiple revenue streams.

770
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: People will let you. They will let you quiet quit

771
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: or quietly fire you. And you look up and you don't.

772
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: You'll be dependent on one entity, and it's impossible. That's

773
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: why it's impossible, not in this day and age, not

774
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: in this day and and it's also a freedom. It

775
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: helps you move with the freedom that you cannot experience

776
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: if you're beholding to one place. So then you get

777
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: this show. Oh my goodness, this is such a great story.

778
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, so go on, and I love

779
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: Andy for this for you go on. So I get

780
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: the show. It doesn't prosibly well, we go on for

781
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: three seasons, Get Can. It gets canceled and then Andy

782
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: it's a deal with serious sex am and he calls

783
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: me and says, have you ever thought about doing radio?

784
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, whatever. He's like, what you

785
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: want to do radio on on my network? I'm doing

786
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: on series Like sim I'm a as long as I

787
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: don't have to do fashion. He's like, you can do

788
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: whatever you want on it, like whatever. It should be

789
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: like a Twitter feed where you talk about anything and everything.

790
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: I said, great. So September four, Team will be my

791
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: seventh anniversary of being on radio. Andy, and I'm very

792
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: proud that we want to grace the award in twenty

793
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: twenty and it's just like one. And we've had amazing,

794
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: incredible interviews, like my I Should interview just got picked up,

795
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: my John Boyega interview just got picked up. I mean,

796
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: it's just been incredibly Um. It's been a life changing

797
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: moment for me to have that kind of a show, um,

798
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: and to be able to have great conversations and and

799
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: to be able to talk about everything from fashion to

800
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: pop culture, to politics, to health disparities, the income inequality.

801
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: I do all these things on one show, and sometimes

802
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: on one actual episode, I go. I go everywhere that

803
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: I want to go, and and and you're allowed to

804
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: because you are all those things, because you have that breath,

805
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: you have that range, and and you should not be limited.

806
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: I am a big believer in that. You can't tell

807
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: me I can only do one thing. Congratulations on seven years.

808
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Congratulations on um being your true self and being so

809
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: damn comfortable in your skin, something probably you take for granted,

810
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: but it is a it's a journey for most, so

811
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: it kind of is just a beautiful thing. Thank you,

812
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: But it is my mom. So I just did a

813
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: Ted talk and I guess it was April, and I

814
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: talked a lot about my mother and the ted talk.

815
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: And my mother just self suffered two strokes on August six,

816
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: and she's ninety four years old, and she is still here,

817
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: and she is still wonderfully herself, even without even a

818
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: very limited speech and virtually no mobility on one side

819
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: of her body. But she is present, and my mother

820
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: is still beautiful and vibranting. The people in the rehab

821
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: are like, we love to come see your mother. She

822
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: has the best mouth, she always has the best outlook.

823
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: She's always optimistic, she's always cheerful. That's my mother. And

824
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: I grew up in the household with a mother and

825
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: a father who told me how beautiful I was, who

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00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: told me how smart I was, who really just encouraged

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Speaker 1: and stroke the like. We were like loved and kids

828
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: for children. And I think that that's the reason why

829
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: I can go into the world and be the way

830
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: I am, be very gracious and giving because I don't

831
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: come from a place of stress and strife. I'm well

832
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: all my life, I didn't have to fight, you know

833
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was loved and people gave me stuff.

834
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Speaker 1: But I don't take that for granted. I know it's

835
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Speaker 1: a blessing to then that means I have to be

836
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: a blessing to others. I received all of that. You Uh,

837
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: you are loved and you came from love. Shout out

838
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: to your parents. Thank god they did that. There's another

839
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: example of what happens when you raise good babies. You

840
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: see what happened. They turned into strong people who love themselves, Um,

841
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: love others. Where can we get your book? Oh? Everywhere, girl.

842
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: I just all the Nobles, girl, and they got the

843
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: Balls and Nobles. I got the Amazon, all the local bookstores.

844
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: I also want to make sure that people watch my

845
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: ted talk. My tat talk went to two million and

846
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: two million. Wow wow wow wow wow yeah, And Carrie

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Speaker 1: can just tell you. I know we don't have much time.

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Speaker 1: I'mna tell you this's real quick. I got my taed

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Speaker 1: talk through doing the things that I love to do.

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Speaker 1: I have a whole symposium called Life with Vision, and

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Speaker 1: I did a Life of Vision and two thousand and

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Speaker 1: twenty one. And the woman who came to it and

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Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen came back and when I was done,

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Speaker 1: she said, you know, Betty, this is a tat talk.

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Speaker 1: And I said, get great. She's like I worked it. Test.

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Speaker 1: I said, okay, she said, I think you should do

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Speaker 1: a tat talk. Do you mind if I put your

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Speaker 1: name in the hat. I said, okay, put my name

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Speaker 1: in the hat. They asked me what I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about. I sent them over on like my credentials

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Speaker 1: and things, and they asked me to do a Ted

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Speaker 1: talk main stage. Most people never get the main stage

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Speaker 1: first time. T X. Nothing's wrong with Ted. I didn't

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Speaker 1: t X, so that's wrong with you. You're right, but

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Speaker 1: the dog went straight to the main event. The other thing,

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Speaker 1: when my coach worked with me, my coach said, when

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Speaker 1: you have to go in front of the board of

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Speaker 1: the Ted people that let them hear your final speech, said,

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Speaker 1: they usually have a lot of comments, don't worry about it,

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Speaker 1: will work whatever they say. When I was done, man

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Speaker 1: who once Ted said, that's a perfect Ted talk. I

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Speaker 1: have no notes. Wow, no notes. Chills just right here

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Speaker 1: on my arm, just right now, you can't see them.

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Speaker 1: And then that's the final thing about the Ted talk.

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Speaker 1: Bill Gates was on my it was in my pod.

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Speaker 1: So I like to say Bill Gates opened up for me.

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Speaker 1: Well he well, he sure enough did. He sure enough did.

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Speaker 1: Because it's only a propos you told him to get

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Speaker 1: out there and make sure he did it right. Warm

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Speaker 1: and up, warmm up for me, and I'm gonna come

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Speaker 1: up for me. M develations, bevelations, give me, give me

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Speaker 1: the rest of the title, Bevelations, Evelations, Lessons to my Mother,

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Speaker 1: Auntie bestI. You see about them, Mother, Auntie, Bestie. My

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Speaker 1: mother is mother, is what my gay kids call me.

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Speaker 1: Auntie is what anyone under thirty five and called me.

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Speaker 1: If you older than that, don't quote me Auntie. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna move you into the little sister or into the

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Speaker 1: bestie category and best for all the women who watched

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Speaker 1: me on TV and say, oh my god, I want

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Speaker 1: to have drinks with you, I'm want to go on

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Speaker 1: vacation with you. I want to hate. That's you in

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Speaker 1: the best category. So that's what it is. So my

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Speaker 1: my book is really about, you know, me going through

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Speaker 1: this metamorphosis of of all these different personas that I

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Speaker 1: helped hung hung into for so many years and then

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Speaker 1: releasing them and now being and more importantly your personality.

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Speaker 1: How funny you are, it's so infectious, like it just

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Speaker 1: following me you on social looking at what you're disinfectious.

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Speaker 1: So if you're in a mood to be in a

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Speaker 1: good mood. Go go and look at some of her posts.

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Speaker 1: If you're on a mood to being a good mood, Betty,

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Speaker 1: you'll do that for you. I appreciate you, Betty Smith.

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Speaker 1: You are everything. You are my you are my bestie

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Speaker 1: and I would love to have friends with you. So

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Speaker 1: you know that is going jump. I'm about to jump

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Speaker 1: in your d M, which I think I have before.

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Speaker 1: But I'm in New York a lot, so that would

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Speaker 1: be nice, and we we know so many people. It

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Speaker 1: would be it would be a catch up. It'd be

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Speaker 1: a full catch up. I have to do that. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Thank you for being who you are. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for being unrelenting, determined, tenacity, um, beauty, exemplified, unapologetic,

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Speaker 1: all of the things that I embody and love. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Mike carry and thank you for being exactly all those

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Speaker 1: things to me. Because I have to tell you, I

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Speaker 1: love what you do with Naked. I just love it

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Speaker 1: and it's very inspiring. And if I ever go back

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Speaker 1: into the podcast business, I'm gonna definitely be taking all

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Speaker 1: that I think. I hear, I hear a podcast is

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Speaker 1: coming your way. I feel that that does only make

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Speaker 1: sense a big way. I had a podcast with CBS

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Speaker 1: before podcasts were popular, and so you don't have one.

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Speaker 1: You don't have one currently, right, Okay, I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure. I was like, I didn't see that in

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Speaker 1: my research. Okay, you know that, lovely young lady research

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Speaker 1: the heck out. Yeah. I was like, hey, you got

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Speaker 1: me out here. I'm at now, I'm kidding, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'll put that here. Peyton is perfect. Betty's about to

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Speaker 1: have you want to put this in the universe. I

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Speaker 1: believe we'll put this in the universe. A podcast where

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Speaker 1: you make seven figures and you're gonna bring me along

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Speaker 1: there you go, love it, do it. The most important

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Speaker 1: takeaway for me was Betty Smith sharing her origin story.

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Speaker 1: She grew up in Harlem, Harald black woman. She knew

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Speaker 1: who she was at a very young age. She knew

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Speaker 1: her history at a very young age. Um and she

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Speaker 1: felt the love in which her family gave her. Family

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Speaker 1: and friends. She surrounded herself around people who cared for her,

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Speaker 1: who loved her. It really does change your perspective in

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Speaker 1: your outlook and how you move in life. When you

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Speaker 1: know who you are and you have a joy that

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Speaker 1: nobody can take away, and that's what I felt when

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Speaker 1: I was talking to her. Her book, please go check

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Speaker 1: it out, published in one It's a memoir Bevelations Lessons

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Speaker 1: from a Mother Auntie Bestie. Now remember, if you are

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Speaker 1: thirty five or younger, you cannot call her auntie because

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Speaker 1: it is disrespectful. I mean I feel that way when

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Speaker 1: people call me auntie. I'm like, I'm too fine to

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Speaker 1: be somebody's aunty. I can take your boyfriend. Don't call

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Speaker 1: me auntie. Damn it. And I don't want your man.

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Speaker 1: I sent him home. You welcome. I also sent Tupacole.

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Speaker 1: If I had to choice, if I had to do

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Speaker 1: it over again, I rethink that choice. Guys, I'd be like, O,

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Speaker 1: I only got one night in town, baby, dollar you down.

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Speaker 1: I'm a full Meanwhile, go buy Bebbies memoir. Check out

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Speaker 1: her book. You can get it anywhere. Bevelations Lessons from

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Speaker 1: a Mother. Auntie and Bessie also continue to support the

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Speaker 1: podcast at me, tell me what you think. Tell me

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Speaker 1: if you enjoyed this interview. I thought she was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I will see you all next Monday. Have a good one.