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Speaker 3: Doctor King didn't, Malcolm. I'm asking. I'm asking doctor Umar.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's not our culture. Our culture is collectivist. If

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Speaker 3: We're taking responsibility for the development of all the black

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Speaker 3: We don't put that on them. Let me tell you

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Speaker 2: Well, do what you can do if you became multi task. See,

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Speaker 2: I've seen you going viral.

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Speaker 1: You don't put that on the same white people that

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Speaker 3: We don't put that on them. Let me tell you

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Speaker 3: And like I told those young brothers, black women would

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Speaker 3: We got him. We go to the school meetings, we're

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Speaker 2: And that's and that's in the perfect world. I agree

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Speaker 3: But why the world got to be perfect for us to.

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Speaker 1: it do if you need to do, if you came

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Speaker 3: The county task, and we've been chasing that ask.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's that kind of multitask is self satisfying, right,

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Speaker 2: So that's a bit different.

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Speaker 1: You're asking people the multitask and gild not get right.

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Speaker 2: So it's a different circumstance.

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Speaker 1: I see what you said right when we're telling someone

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Speaker 2: And I'm with you on the in.

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Speaker 1: The overall overarching goal, but I want to deal with

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Speaker 2: And there's a quote that says, don't win there.

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Speaker 1: Things to be how You won't be wishing them to

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Speaker 2: You live in.

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Speaker 1: Things will be what they are no matter what. You

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Speaker 1: can't change that, Oumar. You can we can do all.

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Speaker 1: We can't look at it for what we want it

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Speaker 3: Question for you, Here's what I think, and I agree

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Speaker 3: I think we as black men, and I'm talking all

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Speaker 3: It's either a black woman's fault or it's the power

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Speaker 3: structure's fault. What the hell are we going to do?

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Speaker 2: I didn't say black woman.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying you.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about from my autright, but.

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Speaker 2: Structs most of your conversation.

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Speaker 1: No, sir, not the black woman, but definitely the white

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Speaker 3: But the solution is ours to make.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's not let's not push these together.

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Speaker 1: They go together, right, but let's deal with them separately

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Speaker 3: One we talk right.

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Speaker 2: Problem, The problem is the power structure.

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Speaker 1: The solutionize in our hand period, but that the power

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Speaker 3: Yes or no, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So again, if you don't have the ability to multitask,

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Speaker 1: when do you expect the black male to be self preservation?

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Speaker 1: Self preservation? We can't everybody can doctor them. We can't

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Speaker 1: say everybody can save children.

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Speaker 3: We find time.

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Speaker 1: The party saving children is different than what parties find

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Speaker 3: That's an excuse. We don't care enough to do it,

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Speaker 3: and we need to be honest and save that.

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Speaker 1: You think the same skill said it takes for me

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Speaker 1: to go stand in the club, it's the same skill

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Speaker 3: No, it's a different skill set.

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking the skill set you're talking intention. I'm saying

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Speaker 3: Okay, that means those of us who know how show

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Speaker 1: So that's a different conversation instead of asking that why

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Speaker 1: excuse me, you got you guys. They put you guys,

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Speaker 3: Back, then go ahead, that we need to stop telling

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Speaker 3: stop telling our women to stop expecting us to behave

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Speaker 3: as men. If we're gonna say can't, because can't should

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Speaker 2: Can you open the school tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: No, but I can in a month.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I get what you said.

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Speaker 3: They're still hoping, hoping. Oh no, we're not hoping to

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Speaker 1: You're not giving me a deadline on this on this

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Speaker 3: Physically, yes, all wet all we're waiting for is, but

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Speaker 3: it won't be I don't know how long this city

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Speaker 3: then we gotta get the lawyers involved. You see what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. Right, But I just think that we as

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Speaker 2: That's a bold statement. Bro Like, as a man, you

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Speaker 3: We should not when it comes to say that our boys,

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Speaker 1: That's a different See you, this is how good talking

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Speaker 1: about our boys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is how good you are?

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Speaker 1: You cast a wide day to say can't as a man,

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Speaker 3: That's what, and as it pertains to almost anything a

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Speaker 2: See I can't.

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Speaker 1: I gotta live in a space where I know everybody

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Speaker 3: Then let us then we gotta stop telling women to

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Speaker 3: You can't say respect me as the god of the community,

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Speaker 3: and then on the flip side, I can't do nothing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I'm trying to take

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Speaker 3: I just I know when you say multitask, it bothers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's one hundred.

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Speaker 3: Rais of the kids. What they gotta do with black

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Speaker 1: to do with black men. We don't share all of

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Speaker 1: the same we don't share all of the no two humans,

441
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Speaker 1: we don't share all of.

442
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Speaker 2: The same attributes.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that men black men in general can't

444
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Speaker 1: do it. I'm saying when we say black men as

445
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Speaker 1: a whole is responsible for the environment, because because all

446
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Speaker 1: black men can, I think.

447
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Speaker 2: That's what a problem is.

448
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Speaker 3: So then here's my question for you. If black men

449
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Speaker 3: can't be expected to be responsible for the development, the

450
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 3: nurture and the growth of black boys, what in the

451
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Speaker 3: hell can we be in trust.

452
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Speaker 2: Other black boys.

453
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Speaker 1: I'm saying that most black men, at least that I know,

454
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Speaker 1: especially coming from them, we just see, this is what

455
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Speaker 1: I'm saying actively listening. Right, we just were speaking about

456
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Speaker 1: how Sexy Red and all of these people are in

457
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Speaker 1: circumstances in which the first priority is saving their family,

458
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Speaker 1: even at the detriment you just said, you feel me,

459
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Speaker 1: even at the detriment of the community.

460
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Speaker 3: Right.

461
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Speaker 1: We just spoke about and I want to take Sexy

462
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Speaker 1: Red out of it because it ain't about her. But

463
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Speaker 1: we just spoke about female rep and them promoting the

464
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Speaker 1: lifestyle that they may not even adopt, and how that's detrimental.

465
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Speaker 1: But because self preservation is keicked in somehow, it ain't

466
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Speaker 1: their fault.

467
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Speaker 2: By rapping that, To.

468
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Speaker 3: Ask you a question, if black men were being the

469
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Speaker 3: men that our community needs, would there be a Suki

470
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Speaker 3: Hina or a Sexy Red. Why not?

471
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Speaker 2: Let's elaborate before.

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Speaker 3: Why not the circumstances that gave rise to those two

473
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Speaker 3: beautiful black women having to engage in the art form

474
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Speaker 3: that they are in in order to take care of

475
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Speaker 3: themselves and their children. Those circumstances that gave birth to

476
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Speaker 3: this reality would have never been allowed to fester. Men

477
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Speaker 3: control the structure and the set boundaries. We don't do that.

478
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Speaker 3: And if we're going to say we can't at least

479
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Speaker 3: be responsible for the boys, If we're going to tell

480
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Speaker 3: black women that we can't do nothing with our boys,

481
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Speaker 3: what else should she be willing to trust us with?

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Speaker 2: Do you push that off phone? What about the boys father?

483
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Speaker 2: You push it to the community?

484
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Speaker 3: Right?

485
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Speaker 2: What about his father?

486
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's not our culture. Our culture is collectivism. If

487
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: you're not there, I got to be. It's that simple.

488
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: The reasons don't even matter. He ain't there. I got

489
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Speaker 3: to take his place. I am because we are. We

490
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: are because I am. See. We like to scapegoat individuals

491
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Speaker 3: because we don't want no collective accountability.

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Speaker 2: How many kids have viewed personally? And I don't mean

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Speaker 2: over the phone?

494
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Speaker 3: Wow, I mean many to count? A lot of them,

495
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Speaker 3: too many to count.

496
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Speaker 2: Do you think do you think you've touched more children

497
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Speaker 2: than Dion sand.

498
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Speaker 3: I think it's very possible that I have. And I'm

499
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Speaker 3: going strictly off of the feedback I get from young

500
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Speaker 3: men right through the will of God, because I give

501
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Speaker 3: the Greece to the Lord, right. I get messages that

502
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: sometimes make me cry from young men. You're the reason

503
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 3: I didn't take my life. You're the reason I didn't

504
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 3: leave my family. You're the reason I finished college. You're

505
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: the reason I came back home. Sometimes I get these

506
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: testimonies from these brothers. Man, I feel like they making

507
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: it up, because there's no way you're telling me I

508
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: influenced your life that much. You see what I'm saying.

509
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: And these are the ones who I've never even direct

510
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: But then you have the ones who I directly mentored,

511
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: spent time with an assistance. You see what I'm saying.

512
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: And that's why when we go back to the money

513
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Speaker 3: thing with the whole podcast piece, and I need to

514
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: look into that because I need that money to build

515
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: more school. That's what I'm saying. That's why I have

516
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Speaker 3: to do it more.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I say, if the mission the

518
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Speaker 1: mission is, it's a lot of money even being left

519
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Speaker 1: out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was just gonna say that's one of

521
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 3: the reasons why the money never really factored mightily into

522
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 3: my vision because I get paid back so much through

523
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 3: the spirit for what I give to the people, and

524
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: seeing that sometimes that blinds you or distracts me from

525
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Speaker 3: even looking at you. See what I'm saying, because it's

526
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Speaker 3: like them, if I'm able to do that, I could

527
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Speaker 3: give a damn about the money. You see what I'm saying,

528
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Speaker 3: And so we need the money for the mission.

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Speaker 1: And also but seeing that's still that's that's you fueling

530
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Speaker 1: the motivation. That's what I'm saying. Motivation is important, man.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, And so you live in that spot like

532
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Speaker 1: you d on me. A lot of people, people clips

533
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Speaker 1: go viral of Like.

534
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Speaker 3: She said, why keep bringing up bon What I'm what I'm.

535
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Speaker 1: Saying is is that is that? And and again I'm

536
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Speaker 1: doing this because now let me address that.

537
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Speaker 2: Give me a second. The reason I continue to bring

538
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: up D. R.

539
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: Sanders with doctor Umar Johnson is because there's a fight

540
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: amongst black boys to understand which one of these guys

541
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: and why there's in fighting going on between these guys.

542
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: Seems like you have colorful conversations surrounding some of his

543
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: moves and then half of black coaches riding with him.

544
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Speaker 1: So my job is to try to come through this

545
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Speaker 1: and see if we can figure out what the issue is.

546
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, That's all it is for me.

547
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Speaker 1: I want the information. I'm curious. D Ho is somebody

548
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Speaker 1: I know. I look at he's motivating people. You somebody

549
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: I know You're motivating people. We talk all this black

550
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: power with stuff. I'm trying to figure out, why is

551
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: there any kind of disagreement about his mission, your mission?

552
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: Because you were the same guy on a ten year

553
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: mission to build a school.

554
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: So I look nine.

555
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: Year mission to build a school.

556
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Speaker 1: So I look at Dion like he's on a mission.

557
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Speaker 1: So that's why I want to come through it. That's

558
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: my thinking. I want to have that conversation with you,

559
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: and we had it. We just stopp him because someone

560
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: brought it up.

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Speaker 3: For me, my biggest concern for black men at this

562
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: time is I feel like we've grown extremely selfish. I

563
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: don't think black men have the type of spirit that

564
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: our ancestors had. You know, you gotta realize we come

565
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 3: from a legacy where black men gave their life for

566
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Speaker 3: the community. I mean literally widow their wife, they left

567
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: their children, fatherless for the people. And I look is

568
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: now where I can't even stay at a Black school

569
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: and help build this up. You know, I got to

570
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 3: run on to the white woman, and I'm just not

571
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: seeing the spirit of sacrifice that black men used to have.

572
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 3: It is bothering me because our women do deserve better

573
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: and we can't give them what the white man gives

574
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: the white woman. But we can damn sure do a

575
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 3: better job than we are. And I think we escapegoating

576
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 3: racism too much because we don't want a man up.

577
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Speaker 2: What is a complete man in your opinion.

578
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: On the basic level, Yes, we gotta protect and provide.

579
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: I don't think we're doing either, especially when it comes

580
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: to children. You got men who do it individually. Remember

581
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: we're talking as a community that two thirds of our

582
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: children are being raised by single mothers, two thirds. No

583
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: matter how you cut that cake, you can't say black

584
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: men are on their job. Now. One brother might say, well,

585
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: I got my kids, okay, But how many children are

586
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: not your biological children that you're looking out for. Because

587
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: it ain't just about your family, it's about us as

588
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: a people. We have to get back to the weism

589
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: and away from the miism. The midism is killing.

590
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about fund raising. What what is the biggest

591
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: donation you received.

592
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: Five thousand dollars from a queen mother in New York City.

593
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: I believe that was the largest single donation.

594
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: That's a hell, that's the hell of a third man.

595
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, largest, and it was from a woman, a woman

596
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: and elder. Wow, queen five thousand?

597
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: Did you reach out to it?

598
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: Did you ever? Molute? Absolutely? I think that I think

599
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: that I think to uh extensively for doing that. Most

600
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: of our donors are repeat donors, right, so everybody donates.

601
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: I have elders who donate ten dollars faithfully every month.

602
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: Ten Some of them did it for the whole nine years.

603
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: So you built this basically off kibbles and bits. Kimble's

604
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: in it bit did.

605
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Speaker 1: You when was the first time you put that into

606
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: your vocal, not vocabulary, but into your your your whole thing.

607
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: What hit the cass shall hit the Because at first

608
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: When I first took the first donation in Saint Louis

610
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: April of twenty fourteen to try to get to Saint

611
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: Paul's College in Virginia, I didn't want to ask for

612
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: the donations, man, because I had seen black pastors and

613
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: leaders bag for money for years, And I said I

614
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: never want to beat them, but then I needed this school.

615
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: So when I got up there was the more I

616
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: still feel how uncomfortable I felt that first donation, and

617
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: then I started getting other people to ask for the donation,

618
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: so they would come and say this is for doctor

619
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: Umar FDMG, and then I just had to get over

620
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: it and say, listen, your cause is right, you ain't stealing.

621
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Speaker 3: You know what you're doing this for. You gotta start asking.

622
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: But it feel nasty, it feel.

623
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but guess what, I still don't ask for the

624
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: money publicly. Yeah, it's still when I'm going live right

625
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: at the lecture.

626
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: I seem because it's still it's still still got a feeling.

627
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Speaker 3: Even though because I'm a very honest person in that regard,

628
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But I think I'll feel

629
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: more comfortable once the school opened up, because now people

630
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: see because we still got the Frederick Douglas High School

631
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: right across the street. We got another school right there

632
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: that we got to renovate too.

633
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: So how did you go through that with people saying,

634
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: damn man, I've been giving money for did you have anybody.

635
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: Most of the people who were saying they've been giving money,

636
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 3: they weren't giving money. Donors don't complain and haters don't donate.

637
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: So the people you see on you two with all

638
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: this critic they're not the donors. They're the haters. You

639
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: see what I'm saying, And see what really happened. Just

640
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: to give a little bit of backstory, there was other

641
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: people in the conscious movement who were raising money for

642
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: different projects and they wasn't able to raise much. So

643
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: they hated on me because the people got behind my

644
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: campaign because remember they sabotaged my gofummy and everything. Oh man,

645
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: every yeah, you lost the goal lost the go fummy.

646
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 2: How much money would you say you lost?

647
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: Well, what happened was when gofunmy decided to cancel our campaign.

648
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: First of all, they said they needed proof that I

649
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: didn't spend no money. I sent them everything, even told

650
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: them to call the back talk to the manager. Every

651
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: pity was accounted for. They canceled me anyway, So it

652
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with whether I was still or not.

653
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: Ya just didn't want me on the platform, right. But

654
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: what happened was I'll never forget it. I looked at

655
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: the fundraiser and I saw Goldfundme started refunding the donations.

656
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: Nobody asked for their money back. Why you refunded the donation.

657
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: So that's when I had to hurry up and shut

658
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: that down and start another account and keep on going.

659
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: Go Fundme was trying to undo all them years of

660
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Speaker 3: preez of money because white people don't want you.

661
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: Did you lose any like.

662
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure some of some of the donations was

663
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: definitely refushed.

664
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Speaker 1: You never lost in hold like yo, twenty Granddawn, they

665
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: just snatched that.

666
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: Or Nah, I don't think it was that much. Yeah,

667
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: I don't think it was. That was like twenty sixteen.

668
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: I want to say when that happened, maybe seventeen, But

669
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: I don't think it was that much.

670
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: What do you say to people who say you're too

671
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: hard on the black mail.

672
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: But they say I'm too hard on everybody, just the

673
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: black male in.

674
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: Specific the black man though, because I'm gonna be honest,

675
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: black men have came to me and said that like,

676
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: may kind of be on us man, Like it's like

677
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: this shit don't be making sense. Yeah, but I think

678
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: that there's a disconnected with with some of the some

679
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: of the understanding that you give the black woman in

680
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: regards to the systematic stuff, and it seems like the

681
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: black man doesn't get that.

682
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: I think with the black some black men, because most

683
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: of our brothers, they ride with me, but some black

684
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: men have trouble understanding that. Although I have just as

685
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 3: much criticism for the black woman, I am not going

686
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: to repudiate and criticize my sister in a public space.

687
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: Because Black women are special, and because they are special,

688
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: we need to treat them in a special way. And

689
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: what these ninjas do is they'll get on YouTube, criticize, condemned,

690
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: and cancel Black women in the face of every other

691
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: race watching you do it. No other man goes public

692
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: and condemns his women the way Black men do. And

693
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna co sign that because it's wrong. You

694
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 3: don't see Chinese men going live talking about everything wrong

695
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: with Chinese women when you ever see that, We ever

696
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: see the Latino men go live and totally crucify Latino women.

697
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: We do it. And you know what's dangerous about it?

698
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: Who the most sexually trafficked Black women? Who the most

699
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: rape black women? Domestically abused Black women? So you mean

700
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: to tell me our women got it the worst? And

701
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 3: on top of that, we gonna go public and tell

702
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: the world we don't even care about them and want

703
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: them no more. I got the same condemnation, but I

704
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: will not do that to her in public.

705
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: We gotta have a stand, now, does that Okay, let's

706
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: talk about this last week or the other week we

707
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: saw the girl with the swollen face.

708
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: Yes, you came out and you said that. Let me

709
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: frame this a little different. Last week, there was a story.

710
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: That came out with a black woman that had a

711
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: reaction on her face. She alleged that some people beat

712
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: up for not giving her a number. You came out

713
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: about that and kind of was critical about those men

714
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: that came out to be a hoax.

715
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: We don't know that. Some people say it's not a hope.

716
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: I've seen several pictures of videos I mean I made

717
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: that may could be wrong, yeah, but I've seen several

718
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: videos of her trying this, like several golfundmes year after

719
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: year where she's literally all these guys and this first

720
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: time it's been that crazy, look that big, but she

721
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: said smaller ones where she's she's pulled this out before.

722
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I put up a post that

723
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: a sister sent me and said, you need to hold

724
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: her accountable because she made this up, and then everybody

725
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: else started commenting under this said it wasn't made up

726
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: and this is what you need to look at. So

727
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: I still don't know what the truth, but.

728
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: Let's for the sake for the sake of conversation, if

729
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: you were wrong, do you think that man?

730
00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: I probably did.

731
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: I probably should it looked a little more into that,

732
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: do you ever, because because there's nothing wrong with holding

733
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: black men to a standard of behavior in public when

734
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: it comes.

735
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: To our sisters, that wasn't even there.

736
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: Well, even if it didn't happen to her, black women

737
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 3: are being choked out and murdered by that black male

738
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: lovers on a regular basis.

739
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: It's still this wasn't that situation.

740
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: It may have not been. My point is I'm not

741
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: going to draw the energy back with that awareness that's

742
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: coming from my commentary is still very much needed out

743
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: there because black women are being abused and ignored.

744
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 2: So at the expense of the black man.

745
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: Though it's because black No, I'm telling you black men, no,

746
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: black men are not that they're not riding with you.

747
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 2: I don't want to be clear. They're still riding with you,

748
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: but they're they're whispering. Man, I kind of didn't. I

749
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: don't know what that was about it.

750
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: They want me to beat the women up. I'm not

751
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: gonna do it. I tell them right now, I'm never

752
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: going to do that.

753
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: No, when you're wrong about nobody let her get beat up.

754
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: And also, are you asking black men. I'm saying, let's

755
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: entertain it for the sake of conversation. And also are

756
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: you asking black men to put their lives on the

757
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: line for Would you put your life on the line

758
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: for a woman you don't know and leave your children

759
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: black woman? Yeah, black women have a choice. That's part

760
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: of being right now, and leave your daughters without a father?

761
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: Doctor keiton't, Malcolm, No, I'm asking. I'm asking doctor Umar.

762
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: Yes, it's part of who. Nobody wants to die. I

763
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: don't have a death wish, but I understand as a man,

764
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: my obligation is to every black woman, not just the

765
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: one I'm married to and the ones I gave birth to.

766
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: That ain't sounds good.

767
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: I like that, it definitely, I mean because I'm saying

768
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: they know if a black woman, some black women.

769
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: Will teach you as a young black male. Now here's

770
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: a conundrum. Some black women to teach you as a young.

771
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Black kid, don't you jump in that they ain't got

772
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: nothing to do with you.

773
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: You need to make it home.

774
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: The little tie tie and little ron rang, and I

775
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: think that's appropriate for the children before grown men. It's

776
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: not a problem.

777
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: So he needs to rewire hisself as his His teaching

778
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: was you mind your business, they bother your family. Then

779
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: that's one thing.

780
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: But what if we had that mentality when the Kup

781
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: Clubs Klan was terrorizing neighborhoods back into Willie Lynch days.

782
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: What if we said I'm only gonna worry about the

783
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: Klan when they k not going my door, they would

784
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: have picked us apart. We had to organize. Black people

785
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: are no longer used to organizing because of our self

786
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 3: hate and selfishness. The only way we'd come out of

787
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: this is a by working together. That's it. And even

788
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: though we talk about the celebrities, we might as well

789
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: lead them out the conversation because they're not gonna be

790
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: a major part in what we do until after we

791
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 3: do it. No black celebrity has ever played a major

792
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: financial role in any of our movements. So I don't

793
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: know why black people keep looking to them. We don't

794
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: own them. White people own them. They are corporate products, Lebron.

795
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 3: They are owned by the white power structure. They're not

796
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: coming over here. They will after we win. They'll come

797
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: drop some money off later, but they won't be there

798
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: in the beginning. We got to do this ourselves, and

799
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 3: we should because we are two trillion dollar people. Black

800
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: people have more money than any single celebrity except maybe Oprah.

801
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: We got more money than everybody else. Is that only yearly?

802
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 2: Annually?

803
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: Annually be two trillion? Oprah not worth two children? Puffy

804
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: ain't two trill were too tri So why is it

805
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: people worth two children to children? Why is it people

806
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: worth two trillion? Keep trying to escape? Go billionaires? You see,

807
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: and in the defici you know what I said in

808
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: the defense How are you gonna expect a billionaire to

809
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 3: sacrifice a billion where you won't even sacrifice a couple

810
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: hundred dollars. It's not fair, you see what I'm saying.

811
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: Now take my school. No celebrity has donated to FTMG,

812
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: and I know plenty of celerity. No celebrity, not one

813
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: has made a donation. And I know that's what I

814
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: mean about the brand tempering do you think it's because

815
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: of something that I think they're fearful of my message.

816
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: I think they're I believe they are free because most

817
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: of them got white people in their circles. Very few

818
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: of them are have a total black team. Most of

819
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: them got white folks running around, and I think they're

820
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 3: afraid of being associated with my name.

821
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: I don't see. I mean, I could see, but.

822
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: Once the small school gets up and running, some of

823
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: them might don they day because they say I was serious,

824
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: because I think some of them was also influenced by

825
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 3: the hate.

826
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

827
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: That's the brand tempering of people saying, hey, this is

828
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: a scam, Hey this might not be doing that. Da

829
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: da da damn, people like I ain't knocking it, but

830
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: I ain't supporting it.

831
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: I really don't know what's going on.

832
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: And he hard. I like how he talked. I messed

833
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: with him, but I'm gonna stay on this side. Real

834
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: what the guy doing, Like right, you know what I'm saying.

835
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: He might eat talking about snow Bunny and nev and

836
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: all kind of like, I don't know what the guy

837
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's it's sometimes I

838
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: be thinking like, you know, why won't these celebrities give

839
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: them because again everybody.

840
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Well let's be honest though it ain't just me. They

841
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: don't really give to black community anything they do United

842
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 3: Way Democratic Party, you.

843
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: Know, because they won't access the power. You don't got

844
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 2: no power.

845
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: They want proximity. I got a lot of power. They

846
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: just don't want my kind of power. So I got

847
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: black power. Yeah, yeah, we're access.

848
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: The way happened to black power, it seemed like that

849
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: word evolved to like woke or conscious or like, and

850
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: it lost people.

851
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: It's like they split it up.

852
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: It used to be black power and it's just like

853
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: a group of us, and now it's.

854
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: Like you got your conscious fold, you got your deed.

855
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: Fol You know why because a lot of black people

856
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: in the conscious movement don't want to be considered black

857
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: or African, so woke and all of that did evolve,

858
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: You're correct, because I don't want to be associated with

859
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: blackness or Africanness, and black power is a self hate thing.

860
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: It's the same way paying Africanism came Black nationalism. Why

861
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: did Pan Africa? I love you too, Mama, be blessed now,

862
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: oh tomorrow, Just so y'all know, I'm speaking at Tennessee

863
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 3: State New Residence Hall, Conference Room ten am to twelve.

864
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: If vindy'all want to come, it's gonna be a Q

865
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: and A session. It's free, So just pull up, bring bunnies,

866
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: bring whatever you want to break.

867
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: Right, I'm just playing with you.

868
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 3: But Black nationalism was a knockoff from Pan Africanists because

869
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: after Garvey got deported, most of the Black national leaders

870
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: came after them. Wasn't interested in building a relationship with Africa.

871
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: So that's how the Pan African nationalism became the Black

872
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: We've always had a problem wanting to be black. That's

873
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: why you got black people running around now say they're

874
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: not from Africa at all. I'm native American. I've been

875
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 3: here since the beginning. Well that's absolutely ridiculous because every

876
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: scientific study has proven unequivocally, indisputably that all humanity originated

877
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 3: in Africa. So it's no such thing as you didn't

878
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: come from Africa, because everybody did. We see. But the

879
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: self hate is so that you got negro say I'm

880
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: a Cherokee, I'm a chock tall, I'm of this or that.

881
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, we have some of those bloods

882
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: in us because we mixed with them. But having a

883
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: little bit of Cherokee in you don't stop you from

884
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: being an African. You don't find a white person with

885
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: a with a great great grandparent from Africa and now

886
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: they no longer a Jew. They's still a Jew. They

887
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: just got a black grandfather's somewhere. But when a Negro

888
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 3: finds out he got some Caucasian blood, he stops being black.

889
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: He's a total Iowa. They won't even let his ask

890
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 3: in the church.

891
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: Well, so this is and this would be probably our

892
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: last last sequence. I want to talk about Trump and

893
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: specifically the charges that he's facing. What what's your feelings

894
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: on the all of the various indictments.

895
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: Than I got a couple, A couple couple number one.

896
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: A lot of this is being done by the Democratic

897
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: part Party because they don't want Trump available to run

898
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: because there's a strong chance he wins. And now that

899
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: they've turned him into a political martyr, they they just

900
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 3: made his electoral base that much stronger. They just gave

901
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: him votes by doing that.

902
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: So why why don't the old power structure understand that

903
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: that has an adverse reaction to like, arrest this guy

904
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: when he's been tell flawing to these like all of

905
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: these little attempts to smear him, they don't work for him.

906
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: Well, the problem that most traditional politicians have with Trump,

907
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: even within the Republican Party, he's not a traditional politician.

908
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: He's a businessman. They hate the fact that a businessman

909
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: came over into the presidential race and wanted his first time.

910
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 3: See that. Now here's the problem that the power structure

911
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: has with Donald Trump. Because you know, they select presidents

912
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: before you both fall. The problem with Donald Trump as

913
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: president is he thinks he's actually in charge. He don't

914
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: understand you are an employee. We tell you what to do.

915
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 3: Donald Trump doesn't have a political background, so he don't

916
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: know the president scrimlin outside the lines, right, Obama knew,

917
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 3: I'm just a flunky. Biden new because they are career politician.

918
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: Trump think if i'm CEO, I'm CEO. No ninja, it

919
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: just looks like you're CEO. Remember he didn't support the COVID,

920
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: he didn't support the immigration They went against the lgbt Q.

921
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 3: They like, what are you doing? You're going against our

922
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: major initiatives. So if they decide to let him win again,

923
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: they're gonna have a conversation with him, because they gonna

924
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: tell me, you can't go against this, this or.

925
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: This, or will have to kill you because he exposed

926
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: a lot. He exposed a lot.

927
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: No, that's what they do. They killed both and they

928
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: don't want to have to kill him because he's too popular,

929
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: you feel me.

930
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: Right, And it's gonna be cleared day that, y'all.

931
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they're gonna have to send him down and

932
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: tell him. Listen, man, your second term can't be like

933
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: your first term. We need you to chill a little bit.

934
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: Stay off the COVID stuff, stay off the gates stuff,

935
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 3: stay you seel me the rest of the cowboys shit,

936
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 3: you do you straight right, but stay off of these steaks, right.

937
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: But the Democrats are going to try to keep him

938
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: tied up so he can't.

939
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: Run now with that indictment. If he runs, he wins, Yeah,

940
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: he wins.

941
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

942
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: But I'm looking at that indictment number one for what Trump.

943
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a global circus, right, we're arresting

944
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: the president.

945
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: It's just all kinds of stuff going on.

946
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: But I'm more examining the fact that Finnie willis out

947
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 1: of Atlanta, which is the prosecutor she's the same person.

948
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: That indicted young thug, wife and Luci.

949
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: A lot of different people down there in regards to

950
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: Rinco charges. And what's happening is is that Fani is

951
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: using this rico charge in an unprecedented way. Right, there's

952
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: no case law on it, and so she's casting a

953
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: very wide net. I'm wondering if her charging Trump exposes.

954
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: The young thug and the wife and.

955
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: Luci overreaching, right, because I think you put billionaires in

956
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: your business and.

957
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: They cone get a little thicker.

958
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: It's like it's a fine tooth cone they're looking at

959
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: stuff with and I'm wondering, is there an opportunity for

960
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: them to say, Yo, you're reaching like you did with Trump.

961
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: You did the same thing with that, and they kind

962
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: of lumped that in, like, Yo, you're reaching with all

963
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: these guys. You're just a reacher. I think it's all

964
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: political theater. At the end of the day, I'll be

965
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: surprised if he's do any real time.

966
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: Now. I do want to say this because you got

967
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: some black people say you look at Joe Biden and

968
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: what he didn't do. Trump and Biden are equal, or

969
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: maybe Trump was a little better. I reject that because

970
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: I look at the fact that Donald Trump signed more

971
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 3: death execution warrants than any president in American history. Send

972
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: slavery and explain what those for the NOLO on death row.

973
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: The president can either stall it, execute it, execute him,

974
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: or with the pardon. The Trump signed like two or

975
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: three of them his last days in office. So you're

976
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: about to leave, you're not even a president no more,

977
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: and you still found time to kill a few more people,

978
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: and one or two of them was black, you know.

979
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: So I look at that, you know, I look at

980
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 3: the disrespect he showed for slavery, what we've been through.

981
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: Any time he had a chance to show that he

982
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: didn't care about black folks, he showed it. So I

983
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 3: can't vote for nothing like that. And for me, I

984
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: don't think we should be voting for either one. What

985
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: we should be doing is organizing our votes. We s

986
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: have a black political union and then we negotiate with

987
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: the nominee of each party. In other words, Trump, you're

988
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: the nominee for the Republicans. Biden you're not for the Democrats.

989
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: Will guess what I represent, the Black political Union of

990
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: America with not a party, with just a conglomerate of

991
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: black votes, and we are pledging to vote in the

992
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: same direction. There's fifty million blacks in America. I got

993
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: twenty million black votes. What are you going to give me?

994
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: What are you going to get? And guess what, whatever

995
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: they promise you, they have to deliver. You know why,

996
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 3: because if you got twenty million votes, you dictate who

997
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: wins every time. Because presidential elections are often decided by

998
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 3: less than three million. You got twenty million, they gonna

999
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 3: do whatever you tell them to do. The problem with

1000
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: black people we never organize our vote along a black

1001
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: community platform. We've always served the Democratic plantation the republic plantation.

1002
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: When do we want to get tired of that? It

1003
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: says it's time for us to pull our votes out

1004
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: of both and vote as a people. That's what we

1005
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: need to do. But you know what, nobody wants us

1006
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 3: to vote at a people, brother toded. You know why

1007
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 3: black politicians do not want Black people with an organized vote.

1008
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: Why don't your black elected officials in Tennessee wh you

1009
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 3: organize because now you could hold them accountable. So now

1010
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna make them fight the white people they been

1011
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: having tea and biscuits with. Now he got to go

1012
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: and fight the snow bunny he been sleeping with to

1013
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 3: break back resources to Nashville. Nobody wants black people organized. Now,

1014
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: white politicians, not black politicians, because the organized black community

1015
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: is a powerfully dangerous black community. All we got to

1016
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: do is organize, y'all. When we gotta stop being lazy, complacent,

1017
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: and we gotta stop thinking we could do everything on

1018
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 3: social media. That's another issue. One thing I respect about

1019
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: the Jehovah Witnesses. Feed them on YouTube recruiting. Do you

1020
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: see the Jehovah Witnesses on TikTok recruiting? Uh huh? They

1021
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: still knock on your door. The Jehovah Witnesses have not changed.

1022
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: They streets, street strategy, street strategy. I gotta speak your

1023
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 3: language of parment, street strategy. Yet they still knocking on doors.

1024
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: Why we don't knock on doors no more? We want

1025
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 3: to do everything with Twitter thingers, They can't do that.

1026
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: You gotta get in black people face and make them

1027
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: feel you and let them know that you sincere, and

1028
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: then they'll come out for you. We got to go

1029
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: back to old fashioned street organize it, and we got

1030
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: to organize that black dollar. I don't care how much

1031
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: we march. I don't care how much we protest until

1032
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 3: we organize. The black dollar will never have black power.

1033
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: The dollar equals power. You got the organizer.

1034
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: Last thing, You are one of the best speakers.

1035
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: It's probably my third fourth time saying that, because again

1036
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: I study this so I know what it takes to

1037
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: do it, and.

1038
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 3: You're one of those guys.

1039
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: Who would you put you you?

1040
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I've heard you say before you you feel like you're

1041
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: the greatest Black speaker period.

1042
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 2: Of this day, this day, Yeah, of this day, our history. Yes,

1043
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: doctor Umar Johnson Versu Phara kh.

1044
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: That would not be fair because in all due respect

1045
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: to the Honiable Ministeruluis Farrakty, he's in his n idea decade.

1046
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: To put him against me at this time, it wouldn't

1047
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 3: be fair. But he is, but he's still know he's

1048
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 3: still a great speaker. I don't get Are you.

1049
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: Saying that because you you you feel like your youth

1050
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: out wits him? Are you saying that because his his

1051
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: his experience? It just is it fair because he's been

1052
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: doing him much more longer than even been doing.

1053
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: It for me. I would personally consider it arrogant to

1054
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: compare myself to an elder period period.

1055
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: So how can you so, how can you make the

1056
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: statement that I am the greatest speaker of this day?

1057
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: That's that's a comparison indirectly.

1058
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: Right, Well, you could say that, but I would not

1059
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: include elders in that conversation. For me, they are a

1060
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: protected class. So they're not even they're not even considered

1061
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 3: in that conversation. Right, Like Jesse Jackson in his youth,

1062
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 3: he was one hell of a public speaker. You're right,

1063
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 3: Minister Sharpton, a great speaker, Okay, Minster fire kind the

1064
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: great speaker. But they're elders now, so I wouldn't want

1065
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: to compare myself directly to an elder. Now, if you

1066
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 3: say it sounds like.

1067
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: You're running from the smoke, I'm gonna be out for

1068
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: the elder.

1069
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: Sound like you and you a bad man, But I

1070
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: ain't never heard you about.

1071
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: I like put him in a prime right, and I've

1072
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: had the opportunity to see them all speaking their prompt.

1073
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: Now you have a conversation, who would win? I don't know.

1074
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: I know I would hold my weight with any of course,

1075
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1076
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: Now putting them against each other? Though, what about that?

1077
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: Like Jesse versa Pharah Khan because then his prom Jesse

1078
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: was I never I need to go watch Jesse.

1079
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: I didn't know Jesse. It was hard, a bad man

1080
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: like that.

1081
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: Even at the Million Man March. I thought his energy

1082
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 3: maybe not necessarily his message the message was at but

1083
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: the energy behind it it was a very He was

1084
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 3: one of the ones I remember the most, and I

1085
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 3: was out there, you know what I mean. So Jesse

1086
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 3: was better, but remember he was he studied King, he

1087
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 3: was Malcolm King. Yeah, yeah, yes, but if you if

1088
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: you're going historically all time, I don't think nobody's beaten Garby,

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Speaker 3: Douglas and King.

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Speaker 2: Do they have any videos on YouTube? Uh? Where did

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00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: you hit? Where are you hearing this stuff?

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00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: At? Well? With Garby, there's some audio Garby King obviously, yes,

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00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 3: And and Douglas you can't get his audio, but you

1094
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 3: can get renditions of his voice done by people who

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00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: heard him speaking, you know, and that's how you know

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00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: he had the baritone and the slow delivery and that

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00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 3: kind of thing. Yeah. I think Garby and Douglass were

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00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: the two greatest of all time, not just because they

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00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: might two you know favorite, And and then I think

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00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: doctor King is right there behind them. Doctor King's style

1101
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 3: was so different from anybody else, you know what I mean?

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00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 3: He was born to do it, had all three of them.

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00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: Well you could tell the ones who was selected by

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00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 3: the universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, doctor King was born to do.

1105
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,479
Speaker 3: That's why doctor King finished high school early, finished college early.

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00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: Why was doctor king life moving so right? Because he

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00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: had re sponsibility in a little bit of time. Wow.

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00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: And that's why an African tradition, we always talk about

1109
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 3: knowing your purpose. All of us negotiate a purpose in

1110
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: heaven with God before we in Carnie. And this life

1111
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: is about you finding what is your purpose? What is

1112
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 3: your purpose to be? Everybody in this auditor, you got

1113
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 3: a reason why you exist, and it is a divine reason,

1114
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 3: and you're supposed to spend your life fighting and fulfilling

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00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: your mission. And this is why if you find yourself

1116
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: not being happy, even though everything you have around you

1117
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: says you shouldn't be happy, you're probably not fulfilling your mission. Right.

1118
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 3: You might be a multi billion dollar business man, but

1119
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 3: you was not sent to this world to make money.

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Speaker 3: You might have sent to this world to make other

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00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 3: people feel better about themselves. So this is where a

1122
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 3: lot of us end up being unhappy and feeling like,

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00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 3: what's wrong with my life? I got money, I got

1124
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 3: you know, beautiful wife. I got a nice car, nice house,

1125
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: job I don't want, but I'm not happy because you're

1126
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 3: not fulfilling your mission. God don't care about the check boy,

1127
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: God don't care about the beg account. Why were you

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00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 3: set here? If you made it through your mother's wing,

1129
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: if you came out of that vagina, you have a

1130
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: reason for being here because not everybody makes it out.

1131
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: All right, it's up that podcast. Y'all take that game

1132
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: and do something with it. I thank every one of

1133
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: y'all from the center of my soul for being out

1134
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: here tonight conversation Doctor Lamar Johnson definitely going up on YouTube.

1135
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 3: And just to let y'all know, tomorrow at a new

1136
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: Residence Hall conference room, I'll be speaking from ten to

1137
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 3: twelve in the morning. It's early because you know the

1138
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: game is in the afternoon. I will be going to

1139
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 3: the game. I haven't had a chance to go to

1140
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: a lot of HBCU football games, so this is one

1141
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: and I'd rather be here in Boulder, Colorado. And let

1142
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 3: me give you on my phone number in case iy

1143
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 3: you have need to reach me, especially parents about your children.

1144
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: If you got issues and things like that. And if

1145
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 3: you work with you know the stress populations. If you

1146
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 3: ever need me to come and talk or do a

1147
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: seminar workshop, let me know.

1148
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: I'm a distress population.

1149
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 3: Cut it down two one five nine eight nine nine

1150
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: eight five eight. Again that's two one five nine eight

1151
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: nine nine eight five eight. And I will have copies

1152
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: of my book on deck tomorrow. Black Parent Advocate the

1153
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: Art of War for dealing with America's public charter school.

1154
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 3: So if you're raising children and you don't have a

1155
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: copy of that book, you might need it because there's

1156
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: a lot of information in there, a lot of sample

1157
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: letters you can use to protect your child from the

1158
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 3: special let assault in the ADHD con game. No drugs

1159
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: and no IEPs. IEPs don't help nobody, and drugs don't

1160
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 3: do nothing but destroy the mind. Stay off it. And

1161
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: for my parents are autistic children. Stop getting those autistic

1162
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: children to evaluated at two and three. They're too young.

1163
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 3: You can't prove autism at two. They might have some

1164
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 3: of the features, but you can't be sure that today

1165
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 3: at least five or six. The reason the school wants

1166
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: you to test them at two and three. Is they

1167
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: want that money. It's all about the money. They want

1168
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: to start the money. You tell them, uh uh, I'm

1169
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: just gonna watch my baby. Let them grow next year.

1170
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 3: I'll check in with you if I start. If I

1171
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 3: feel like he's autistic, I'll let y'all know. But were

1172
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 3: not testing them because y'all feel we got to test

1173
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: it because I feel make sure you understand you are

1174
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 3: you're in the driver sy If you don't sign, they

1175
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: can't do nothing. Even if your child is in special

1176
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: let I can't tell y'all that if you don't sign permission,

1177
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: nothing could happen. You are always in charge.

1178
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: Also, it's up there podcast.

1179
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: Everybody go subscribe this interview as some behind the scenes

1180
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: stuff will be coming out.

1181
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: Our next event is with Kevin Gates. I don't know

1182
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: if it'll be.

1183
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: Here or somewhere else, but we're working through that. It's

1184
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: already locked in. So anyone that are SVP to this,

1185
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: watch out for your email.

1186
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: You'll get an email, maybe a location change. It may

1187
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: not be, but if.

1188
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: You hear the night and you want to be at

1189
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: the next one, I salute you. I appreciate y'all. It's

1190
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: up that podcast.

1191
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: This thing is going to keep getting bigger and bigger.

1192
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: Got a lot of love from the community, a lot

1193
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: of love from the city.

1194
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: Been supporting me. So again, thank y'all. I paid for

1195
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: this out of my pocket, right, and I keep it free.

1196
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: This is very important, y'all'll understand because I didn't have

1197
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: to do that, right, But I appreciate y'all. Appreciate TSU.

1198
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: This conversation was great. I'm sure to do great on YouTube,

1199
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: the banter and all of that. You know, it's just

1200
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: a show, so we gotta we gotta interact with each

1201
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: other on a certain level for things to do what

1202
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: they need to do.

1203
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: It's a business at the end.

1204
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: Of the day.

1205
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: But thank y'all.

1206
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: I hope y'all got something from the conversation. I go

1207
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: by loan the great doctor Mau Johnson. We'll see y'all

1208
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 1: next time.

1209
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, you need more culturely in tune podcast It's up,

1210
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: It's Up. He can talk for seventeen hours, big, He's

1211
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 3: a good interview focus