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Speaker 1: Or Ron Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: joined by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: agree with that Matt money Smith with the money drop

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Speaker 1: for you. Uh, he does have golden pipes. Good show today, Babe, Babe.

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Speaker 1: don't have the good tower. They don't have photos of

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Speaker 1: and you're you're knocking him like, oh he you know,

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Speaker 1: and one, seven and nine. So he has a winning

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like he was a failed coach.

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Speaker 1: He was a failed personnel guy, okay, um and the

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Speaker 1: despise the guy as well, something that probably is going

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Speaker 1: to continue in San Francisco and frankly wherever he goes.

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Speaker 1: Um so he needs to change a lot of his ways.

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Speaker 1: Take a page of the Tom Coughlin book, who Learned

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Speaker 1: How to get players to not hate him so much?

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Speaker 1: That seems to be his biggest challenge. Uh, step away

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Speaker 1: I mean that a lot of coaches in their first job,

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Speaker 1: grow in than the strategy. I don't think that there's

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Speaker 1: anyone that questions that Chip Kelly can't put together a

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Speaker 1: comprehensively intriguing offense. He can. But it was his defensive players,

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Speaker 1: other defense in the league that struggled with that concept.

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Speaker 1: And you know, people thought that Bill Belichick after he

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Speaker 1: if you listen to f A. N. Mike and The

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Speaker 1: that was anti player that players didn't like. So the

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick also resigned on a cocktail napkin. It was

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Speaker 1: be a lead or as a coach better, his wide

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Speaker 1: some undrafted guys we we don't really know. And his

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Speaker 1: the league. One question for the scientists and Dan you

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Speaker 1: getting pushed by fifth string tight end Geron Ham. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you gotta get some good press out there, and you

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Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news, Um, and now what

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Speaker 1: a bad boy, Dan when you break up words because yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is getting hard to track. Uh No, But honestly,

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Speaker 1: now it's time to talk about the NFC North and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. Um. A lot of people sometimes I think

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Speaker 1: it's easy for this group to forget about it because

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Speaker 1: we work with Greg on a day to day basis.

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Speaker 1: But uh, Greg, the Rhodal World founder brick by brick,

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Speaker 1: building the building with craft they're blurbs. Um. Guy knows

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Speaker 1: what it knows the stuff. Greg. That's why he got

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Speaker 1: the name of the Boss. That's why he is the boss.

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Speaker 1: And he went through each of the teams in the

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Speaker 1: NFC North and broke down the rosters. And we'll start

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Speaker 1: with the drama here because after it was posted on

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Speaker 1: the around the NFL Twitter account, which you could follow

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Speaker 1: us at around the NFL. I hope you're following us

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Speaker 1: by now, um, Greg, it was posted, it was linked out,

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Speaker 1: and what happened was the Chicago Bears, Greg very complimentary

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Speaker 1: want to call it, of Tom Cruise from Top Gun

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Speaker 1: putting on his sunglasses and smiling. So they were pleased

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Speaker 1: with what Greg wrote about the Bears. The Lions, however,

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Speaker 1: not so much the Lions. Um. They follow up with

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Speaker 1: a gift of Ron Burgundy. Do we still have that?

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Speaker 1: Um Brendan, Yes, sir, that's what it means. Really well,

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Speaker 1: agreed to disagree. They they said that, you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: Greg's got a problem. And then Eric Ebron of the

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Speaker 1: at it, and then Ebron writes, Twitter is to voice

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Speaker 1: your opinions. We will make you eat those ones you choose. Greg.

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Speaker 1: Let's start there. Then before we get into the Bears,

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Speaker 1: let's get into the Lions. First of all, your heat

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Speaker 1: it no heat, No, he I did enjoy. Well, that's true.

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Speaker 1: I did enjoy the immediate tweet back to him that said,

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Speaker 1: I thought, Ebron, if he's gonna you know, I like you,

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Speaker 1: he's sticking up for his roster. He did in a

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Speaker 1: in a relatively professional, respectful way. Wasn't coming at me.

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Speaker 1: The tweet that really annoyed that the Lions and got

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Speaker 1: them going said the Lions roster is worse the more

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Speaker 1: you look at it, because you think about the Lions

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Speaker 1: players on offense with Stafford and Golden Tate, Marvin Jones

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Speaker 1: not bad, and Ebron's all right. They have some big

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Speaker 1: time players on defunse ANSA Levy if he's healthy, Darius Slay.

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Speaker 1: But when you when you start looking past that a

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Speaker 1: little bit, that some of their positions are terrible. And

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Speaker 1: I think if you go through their position groups, tell

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Speaker 1: me the position group on the Lions that's better than

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Speaker 1: average because their receivers fall off an absolute cliff after

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Speaker 1: their two solid starters Abdullah and Riddick is not above

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Speaker 1: average running back group. And then when you get to defense,

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Speaker 1: Devin Taylor, who has never been a starter, is a starter.

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Speaker 1: They have no depth behind him whatsoever. Nevin Lawson is

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Speaker 1: their number two cornerback and nothing behind him. Uh safety.

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Speaker 1: They're hoping either Raphael Bush or a fourth round pick

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Speaker 1: is going to start there. They just have big time

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Speaker 1: holes like craters where they may be among the league

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Speaker 1: worst as sounds like a butler, right, and that's their

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Speaker 1: number two cornerbacks. With all due respect, you mentioned the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver corps week after one two um. Jeremy Curley

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Speaker 1: is literally the one player John iszc Ever gave a

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Speaker 1: contract to with the Jets, so that has to stand

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Speaker 1: for something, right then, as soon as they gave him that,

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Speaker 1: he did not look like himself. The last year point

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Speaker 1: is well taken. There is no above average position group

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Speaker 1: on this roster. And I know Lions fans are hanging

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Speaker 1: on Matthew Stafford's improvement down the stretch under Cooner time,

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Speaker 1: but this, I mean, Matthew Stafford is the most unpredictable

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Speaker 1: which version you're gonna get next year? Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: I think it's a stretch to say that it's easy

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Speaker 1: have and make so much more out of it that

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Speaker 1: didn't happen last year. And I mean it's just systematic

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Speaker 1: on Twitter that you go do research. I think what

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Speaker 1: you tweeted, anyone that's been doing the homework says, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's right, the Bears have improved, The Lions are, you know,

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Speaker 1: potentially dirt net material. And then you got these team

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Speaker 1: Twitter sites which could not be more tedious with their

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Speaker 1: gift thing. I mean, dating back to last season, it

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Speaker 1: is one of the most ponderous trends that we must

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Speaker 1: deal with with our eyeball staring at Twitter. Is every

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Speaker 1: with these clips enough, no one, no one else. I

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Speaker 1: sites and the gifts. Well, I did are annoying. I

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Speaker 1: thought I sensed from you to west as uh Dan

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Speaker 1: big fan of the Jefts in general, from the teams

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Speaker 1: this trend. I think you're You're on, You're on Marks,

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Speaker 1: I'm on Mars Marcus. Like, if you're not, I don't

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Speaker 1: know who you are. Mark has a vis visceral reaction

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Speaker 1: to it. I just think it's kind of laughing. It

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Speaker 1: There was actually another The Lions actually double Jeff bare move.

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Speaker 1: They also did a did one where an old Batman

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Speaker 1: is scratching his chip. That's the one I saw. It's

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Speaker 1: a you know what it is to Ultimately, it's a shortcut,

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Speaker 1: it's and it's gotten. We're now. Twitter actually offers thousands

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Speaker 1: just expressing yourself through word, you just throw up a

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Speaker 1: and you just earn your paycheck. Let's go, let's go

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Speaker 1: to the huddle and get a get a muffin. Good job.

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Speaker 1: Plainly annoying because the purpose isn't to communicate. The purpose

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Speaker 1: is to play a game in which you're keeping track

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Speaker 1: of how many retweets you can get. Sometimes they're funny,

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Speaker 1: though they did get a lot. Though sometimes they did

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Speaker 1: get a lot. And to your point, Dan, okay, now

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Speaker 1: you're right, the Jeff. Sometimes it's a it's a short.

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Speaker 1: You just pointed to Estelle Getty putting on sunglasses. That's

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Speaker 1: funny at all times. I love Golden Girls. That that

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Speaker 1: one was funny. But you're pointing out the Jeff. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of easy. They got, you know, five

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Speaker 1: retweets off of this blah blah blah. Why couldn't they

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Speaker 1: come up with something clever, because I'll accept it if

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Speaker 1: it's clever. And you know what, Carol Shelby, a Lions fan,

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Speaker 1: quickly came up with something clever. I say, the Lions

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Speaker 1: roster looks worse the more you look at it. He responds,

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Speaker 1: kind of like your sideburns. I like that. That's good.

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Speaker 1: That's a man named Carol. Huh, that's his problem. Um.

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Speaker 1: the roster a second, and you're I will now make

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Speaker 1: the case for the line's offense. Matthew Stafford years old

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Speaker 1: now has become an iron man, sneaky iron man out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere the last five years. Uh, you know, had

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Speaker 1: a five thousand yards season. Okay, Megatron is there, but

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Speaker 1: we all know his talent that exists. Amer Abdula best quarter.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he could flex up the top ten eleven Amer Abdullah,

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Speaker 1: Golden Tate, we know that he's a stud. Marvin Jones

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Speaker 1: I like that signing more than other people. I think

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Speaker 1: he could be a really good number two. T J.

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Speaker 1: Jones don't know a ton about Eric Ebron. Two years

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Speaker 1: ago was supposed to be the best young tight end

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Speaker 1: in the draft. Class is not come together together for

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Speaker 1: young Eric Gett. But maybe with Megatron out of the picture,

638
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Speaker 1: they find a role for him and he starts catching

639
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Speaker 1: the ball. There's some players here that's last year. He

640
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: makes mistakes, but he makes them Playsy bron The only

641
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: thing about that entire screed in which I actually believed

642
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Speaker 1: was it a Mira Dola can become a good running day.

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Speaker 1: You don't believe Golden No, I don't believe he's a stud. No,

644
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Speaker 1: he's really a borderline number two. Number one, he's a

645
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Speaker 1: really good number two. Look those starters. I don't have

646
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: a huge problem with their skill position players in general.

647
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: Although the cliff at wide receiver is massive, it's more

648
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: the the lines. Uh that this used to be a

649
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: strength for their team. Now now you're drafting a first

650
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: round pick. We'll see if the offensive line is good.

651
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: But at defensive end it's ansa and nothing. At defensive tackle,

652
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of guys who are probably league average

653
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: or solid at linebacker, and in safety and cornerback. It's

654
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: just a very thin team. You can see a lot

655
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: of teams score only thing else. I totally agree on paper,

656
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: But it was last year at this time that we

657
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: were looking at like Carolina's offense insane, or once the

658
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin injury happened, they're done. This thing is going

659
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: to be cooked. And then you look at what Cam

660
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: Newton produced last season. Not a single person saw that

661
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: coming a lot can change. Some of these players you

662
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: don't know about can developed my whole thing with the lines.

663
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: Of course, they could win seven or eight games, but

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Speaker 1: my point is that they're gonna have to overachieve a

665
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Speaker 1: little bit to win seven or eight games, and that

666
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Speaker 1: that the ceiling for them is pretty low. And and

667
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: to me, they look more like a six win, five

668
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: or six win type of team. And to Gregg's point,

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Speaker 1: the Panthers build through their lines. Yeah, I mean their

670
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: strength is their front seven and in a pretty good

671
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Speaker 1: offensive line. And the Lions that's their biggest weakness. They

672
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Speaker 1: they've tried. I mean they have Warford, Thominson, Decker, those

673
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: are those are three guys they took pretty high. So

674
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Speaker 1: there's potential for the offensive line to be to be

675
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Speaker 1: good if those guys, I'll play to their to their best.

676
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: And now let's turn our focus to the other team

677
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about today, and um uh it is

678
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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. Because to you, Greg, as you were

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Speaker 1: putting together, uh this this piece on NFL dot Com, Uh,

680
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: you saw the Bears is almost like the what would

681
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: you call the double negative or the team that's the

682
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: opposite the inverse of what the Lions are right now,

683
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: the team that the more you look at the Lions,

684
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Speaker 1: the worst they look the Bears. It's the opposite. Well

685
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: West has been honking about this this for a while,

686
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: and the more I thought about, the more he's right.

687
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm putting together their starting lineups. I did

688
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: not include Leonard Floyd their number one pick yet because

689
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: that that position is deep, Lamar Houston and Pernell McPhee.

690
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: I didn't include their third round pick. Who who they

691
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: like a lot who's gonna get involved. They're the opposite

692
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Speaker 1: of the Lions in that I think they have a

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Speaker 1: lot of depth at a lot of positions where they

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Speaker 1: can survive an injury, where they can rotate their defensive line.

695
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: Now they have Traviathon and Drell Freeman. They have a

696
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: bad secondary. I'm not I was gonna ask that's the weakness.

697
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not a perfect They're not a perfect team.

698
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: It's it's a bad secondary. You gotta love that one

699
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: to three wide receiver combination, sleep on Harold Jones Quarly

700
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: at safety team. Yeah, that was that was the one.

701
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: That's why I like doing these exercises, just to find

702
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: out about these teams, and that was someone I barely

703
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: knew existed and is apparently the slight favorite to start at.

704
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: Quite an athlete, I think in another life, I was

705
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: playing stickball and queens in the nineteen thirties and Eddie

706
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: Goldman was my teammate. He's a good player. Though. That's

707
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: a good exam. That's a good example of what the

708
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: Bears are doing well, that he's a young, ascending player

709
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: you could see getting better. You mentioned their secondary is

710
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: the fatal law. I look at their offensive line and

711
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: it would not surprise me if it ends up being

712
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: the worst in the entire league. Whoa really Yes, Kyle

713
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: Long is a Pro Bowl player. The other four tell

714
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: me what's tell me what's not awful about them? Well,

715
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Speaker 1: Cody white Hair, we don't know. He's a So you

716
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: got a rookie offensive lineman. How often does that turn

717
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: out to be a good thing. They signed a couple

718
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: veterans that have played a lot, uh Manny Ramirez Lawson

719
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: to get a little bit and other teams didn't want. Yeah,

720
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Bobby Massey, Charles who has to face competition for his

721
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: center job this year. This offensive line, Charles Leno as

722
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 1: your left tackle. That's the worst left tackle in the NFL. Yeah, Conan,

723
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to keep the job. Actually, yeah,

724
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: that's a that's a brutal offensive line. Yeah, it's not

725
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: a perfect team. I was more excited about the defense

726
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: and the fact that they overachieved last year. But you're right.

727
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: Basically West is taking your entire like sky high level

728
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: of enthusiasm and setting it up. West, I think and

729
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: I are on the total same page. I don't see

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Speaker 1: them much different than the Lions. I guess there a

731
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Speaker 1: wide receiver corps in front seven. There's nothing else about

732
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Speaker 1: the Bears. I like, especially their quarterback, who's a competitive disabece.

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Speaker 1: That's where I like. Their defensive coordinator. That's where we disagree. Well,

734
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Speaker 1: not the defensive cord. I'm with you on fans. You

735
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: stand throughout history on the side of Jake Cutler and

736
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Speaker 1: see who's right in the end. Do we feel like

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's okay, that's all I'm saying. Okay, you

738
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Speaker 1: lose Adam Gaze. I think that that he helped a

739
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: lot of those players overachieved last year. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: a huge Dowell login sky so let's see how that works.

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Speaker 1: Coordinator corner with marxs No, I just you know what,

742
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: Logan logins, I, you know what, I'm not going to

743
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: take up ten minutes of the show, but he's got

744
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: a few issues on his resume. If you want to

745
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: look at his time in clear I would love to

746
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: hear Mark Sessler ten minutes on Dowell logins like that

747
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: might be the best ten minutes of the show. Since

748
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: you coming up with thirty two words to describe the

749
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense. One thing about Logins. If you're trying to

750
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Speaker 1: keep Cutler happy, and it seemed like he was last year,

751
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: they are buds. They're very tight, and when Loggins was

752
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: in Tennessee, there was all that rumbling about them wanting

753
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: to trade for Cutler and run their what they have now,

754
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: which is a smash mouth, beat you up offense, the

755
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: myth of all myths until we see it. But Cutler

756
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: and Logins that tight color played well last year like

757
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: Cutler was a better cular back, very mediocre, and everyone

758
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: acted like it was well because you it's Jake Cutler,

759
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: and the expectations are so freaking low that if he

760
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: has a decent season where the passer rating is almost

761
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: to Brian Horrier level, it's it's a good season for

762
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: Jake Cutler. Give me a break. Andrew Vere just like

763
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: eight nine the league average, I believe. So can you

764
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Speaker 1: make the argument that he's an average or maybe it

765
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: takes above average quarters, an average quarterback, but not a team.

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Speaker 1: He's a coach destroyer. Look at his history. What is

767
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: the quarterback? I mean, now it's if it's ninety or

768
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 1: whatever for the average. When we were growing up West

769
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Speaker 1: and I the entity administration, I mean, it was much

770
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Speaker 1: much lower. I I don't see these two teams as different.

771
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Speaker 1: I'm just I know you're gonna come at us with

772
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Speaker 1: an age shot, so I cut you off at the pass,

773
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: but not nearly that that old gotta get some food

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Speaker 1: in Mark's belly. Yeah it is. I mean it does

775
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: come up a lot though, just the generation divide between

776
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: the cousins, which is absurd because you guys like five

777
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: years younger than us. Dan has more gray hair than

778
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: all of us put together. It pops up, it pops up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you played strata matic. That was, you know,

780
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Speaker 1: a little before a time that was kind of the

781
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Speaker 1: cut off the old strata matic intellectual in for young people.

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Speaker 1: My whole thing, by the way you imagine that baby

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Speaker 1: booms like West and Mark uh Mark does have a

784
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Speaker 1: strata matic long form coming up. Let's see if it happen.

785
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: I was trying to set them up for a little

786
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: talk about a metrics gold mine. How will the team

787
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Speaker 1: sites respond to that? They'll go look up to figure

788
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Speaker 1: out what it is first? Was this like a subversive

789
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: exercise to stick it to the team sites? No, but

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Speaker 1: I would like to come up. I'll come up with

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Speaker 1: a few of those that would be a lot of

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00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: work for a little response. Wow. Um, well, we look

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00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: forward to it and we'll definitely talk about it on

794
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: the podcast when it lands. Mark's strata matic banger. Um.

795
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Speaker 1: Any final thoughts about um, we don't really have time

796
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: to get into the other teams in the NFC North,

797
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: but I will be plenty of are very unhappy. We'll

798
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: talk to that. Hang in there, guys, let's talk to

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Speaker 1: us about the next time. I do have a final thought.

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00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: My thought is is not that these two teams are

801
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: so different. It's that the Bears feel like a team

802
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: that is ascending, and if I was a fan of

803
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: I think there are some things to get excited about.

804
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: The Lions feel like in between team that has a

805
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: new GM and a head coach. I think they're set

806
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: up to underperform a little bit. These are both five

807
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: to eight win teams. I just think the lines are

808
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: gonna be lower, and then you're gonna have a new

809
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: coach again next year, and then they're changing it all again.

810
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: Like I just don't see this Quinn called weill cooner

811
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Speaker 1: thing lasting for we did we I mean, we're talked

812
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: about this earlier in the week or is it last week?

813
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember. The window that was never really opened

814
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: in the first place closed and now you lost a general.

815
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Speaker 1: It was the window for the year that it was open.

816
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: That's how you end up on the pain rankings. You're

817
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: one of those teams that you never get your window

818
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: properly propped open, and now it's closed, and and somehow

819
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: they talked themselves into keeping Jim called well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, it just seems like this is an organization

821
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Speaker 1: and transition, whether they know it or not, one huge

822
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: bonus about what we've just done here. And this is

823
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Speaker 1: a good management by Greg and it's a plus management

824
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: because you know, Kevin Patrick couldnot be there's multiple you know,

825
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: I am tweets about how upset he is that the

826
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: Lions get overlooked. Blob blah blah. And he's right. But

827
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: we've settled him down. He's back in a good mood.

828
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: He doesn't even know why yet. Found love and we

829
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: just buried his team without asking him to talk about it. Well,

830
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: we mentioned them, we didn't say it was gonna be

831
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be honest here with you. Yeah. Yeah, Remember

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Speaker 1: one critic, I talked to him separately, you know, before

833
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Speaker 1: I wrote wrote any of this kind of smart smart move.

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Speaker 1: We gotta get. Yeah, I give you a pregrade show

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Speaker 1: of a minus for your management, and you exceeded it. Wow,

836
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Speaker 1: that's the that's the highest compliment you've ever given to

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Speaker 1: me for my management. We gotta get. We gotta get

838
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Speaker 1: Patrick on the show because Patrick, who is a salt

839
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Speaker 1: of the earth as they come, and a good guy

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Speaker 1: and a good salty of the earth Saltia, there has

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00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: been a good football writer. Um, he's found love, as

842
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: everyone that follows him on Facebook and a test based

843
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: on his profile pick him and his little ladybug in

844
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Speaker 1: an embrace on a beach somewhere and if you read

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Speaker 1: what right now, and she seems delightful. And what she

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Speaker 1: has to write is she's plugged in, completely tuned into

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Speaker 1: Patra's crankiness and she's on board. I mean she's made

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Speaker 1: multiple mentions of it. Am I wrong? Like I thought

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Speaker 1: that's just how everyone connection. I've never met her. What

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Speaker 1: is on Facebook? When she's when she's described in outing

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Speaker 1: with Patra or a photo and Patra and the photo

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Speaker 1: she's very happy and he's got this like he's just

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Speaker 1: got a Patra look, and she very she's she seems

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Speaker 1: to be on for the entire Patra experience. I just

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Speaker 1: love this krusty snugglebug. I gave myself a Facebook suspension

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Speaker 1: until Donald Trump is out of our lives. Let might

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Speaker 1: take eight years, all right, what a depressing note to end?

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Speaker 1: Then Yeah, we will be back, uh tomorrow, three shows

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Speaker 1: this week where we will talk about something. Uh it's

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Speaker 1: not clearly actually no, we did have an idea what

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Speaker 1: we wanted. We're gonna talk about the Dalton Scale tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We are we are, so get your thinking caps on,

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Speaker 1: uh the annual Dalton Scale this ushi and we'll take

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Speaker 1: place tomorrow where we kind of figure out where some

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Speaker 1: of the ten to twenty area quarterbacks we need to

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Speaker 1: officially rename the Dalton scale because we have I think

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Speaker 1: Dalton scale in perpetuity. Wow, well the West disagree, so

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Speaker 1: that we'll have to discus I mean they don't, they

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Speaker 1: don't call them indoz aligned something else. Now. Well, Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith scale was getting some heat, the Tanna scale, Hannah

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Speaker 1: Scale's great, great ring to it anyway. Okay, so we'll

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Speaker 1: be talking about that on Thursday show, So thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening until then. This is Dan hands As signing

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Speaker 1: off four Quiet Storm, get some food in that belly, Snugglebug,

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Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Boss and Irish behind the Glass Thursday. Yeah,

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