1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Okay, screw tender, Like when you have Heather McDonald, you 3 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: don't need a dating app. 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: So Heather is talking to me all about dating because I. 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: Am her newly single friend and we're talking all about 6 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: it here. It is the bonus dating episode. 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 3: You never knew you needed. How you dating anyone? Thank 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 3: you for asking? Now do you want to or no? 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. 10 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've gotten so used to just being with my 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: kids now that I don't know what I could possibly 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: be able to give someone else. But it would be 13 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: nice to feel those feelings again, you feel excited about 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: like romance or something. 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: I think I think where you're at as good. I 16 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: think you just not everybody has to like be with 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 1: somebody and having a lot of friends that have gotten 18 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: divorced at different stages in life, with different stages of 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: their kids. I just think you just you know, you 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: were with Dean for so long everything. I just think, 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: you know, like if it happens, it happens. If you're 22 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: not like, but it can be really fun when the 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: time comes. Like my friends that do go on it, 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: they're very they're very successful, Like I'm always like there. 25 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: I think a lot of guys. 26 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Are into women you know that are not twenty five, 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: and they do not have trouble getting dates at all. 28 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: Nobody they last into like love. 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: No, but like if you do like the abs and stuff, 30 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: but that's hard, you know, your celebrity. So it's like 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: but with by other friends like no, Like my friends 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: are attractive and put together, but they get a lot 33 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: of I love looking at the thing like a single 34 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: friends and see them and you see what's out there. 35 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: But I think it's also really hard because I think 36 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: I think a guy over fifty who's divorced has it. 37 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: It's got to be the greatest time of their life 38 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: because when you think about it, a guy who's like 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: gen X, who's like fifty ish, it was probably really 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: hard to get a girlfriend and get laid in high school, 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: if not impossible, same thing in college. Then they have 42 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: their wife, you know, for whatever twenty years and then 43 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: they're divorced, and now it's just so easy for them 44 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: to get a girl. 45 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: All they have to do is be. 46 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Able to you know, own a home, and like every 47 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: girl is like oh okay. 48 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: I think it's like you've got to get a guy 49 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: that that is my soul right. 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: Now, you're going to get a guy that's not been 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: on that that long. 52 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: I think you keep referring to it. 53 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: Are you talking about the apps and apps apps you 54 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: can't get? 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: What do you mean? I can't get somebody without an app? 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: Now I'm talking about it, like, yeah, if I refuse 57 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: to do the app, like I think, I mean, I think, 58 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: then I think you get you know, I do think 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: like a matchmaker situation, or like I think people are 60 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: going to move more towards like group things, group things, 61 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: like where you actually show up in person single people, 62 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: not group sex. I'm not like where you actually show 63 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: up in person and it's like everybody bring their single friend. 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: Like I think people are going to start moving towards that. 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. I don't know. 66 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: I just honestly, I never thought i'd be fifty two, 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: have five kids and suddenly be single. Like it's just 68 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: it's exhausted. You just don't You're a place where you 69 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: just don't have to start over. And I know I'm 70 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: too tired to start over at fifty. You don't need 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: to start over. 72 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: Like I have a I have a friend who's dating 73 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: like a much younger guy, and they've been together like 74 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: four years, and she's right off the bat meets anybody, 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: She's like, yes, I have a boyfriend that's, you know, 76 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: significantly younger than I am, and this is how we 77 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: met and da da da, And she's like, yeah, I 78 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: know that. People are like, oooh, what's that about? You know, 79 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't care. Like we have a blast 80 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to have his child, you know, 81 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: like I'm older, I'm not gonna have his child. We 82 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: have a great time. He's super sweet to me. He's 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: not going to like steal my money. And you know, 84 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: if then ten years we're not together, so what Like, 85 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: so what I'm having a person? 86 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: She has to start over again? Now, no, you don't, 87 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: But why do you have to start over? That's the thing. 88 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Who cares if you if you have ten years with 89 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: like a hot, fun, great guy that treates me really 90 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: sweet from like forty eight to fifty eight when he 91 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: was like in his mid thirties, and then once he 92 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: hits forty and you're like fifty eight, you kind of 93 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: decide to go your own way. 94 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: Because he don't have kids or who knows. 95 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: But so bad is what I'm saying, she already has 96 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: her kids, Charity has her life and her money, so 97 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: why not just be with who's ever fun? Unlike when 98 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: we were like twenty eight to thirty, you were looking 99 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: for that person to have kids with. Yeah, dad had 100 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: enough money or career that could elevate your life. Once 101 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: you're like over fifty, it doesn't really matter. You don't 102 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: need them for anything. But can companionship and sex. So 103 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: it's like, choose what is fun for you? And who 104 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: cares if somebody in the corner, some jealous bitch is 105 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: whispering like, oh, he's only he's only into her because 106 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: you know she has a nice home. 107 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: Who the fuck cares? Who cares? 108 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: That's not going to be happening in the corner. But 109 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: but what if I want, like for okay, so I've 110 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: never dated a musician my whole life, and I was like, 111 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: you know, once I was married, I was like that 112 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: was it, you know, and this is it for me? 113 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: But now I can date a musician. 114 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: But I don't know if I really want to date 115 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: a musician, like at my age or state of mind, 116 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: and I'm not really a music person anyway, I've never 117 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: dated But what if I want. 118 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: When you're not a music person, but you're like, why 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: not date a musician just because he thought it was hot? 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: Didn't you do? Didn't you date? Now do I talk 121 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: to And again we never dated? 122 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: I thought you guys did date in real life? 123 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: Oh okay, And I know I think I would have. 124 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 2: He was so we were like best friends, Like where's 125 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: my like Travis Barker and my second like phase in life? 126 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: Like where you know? Like that? 127 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: But then okay, anyway, like I could be that girl, 128 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: like I could be Courtney Kardashian. But I've also never 129 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: dated anyone that was like supremely independently wealthy, like would 130 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: fly me on a private plane and take me to 131 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: like maybe I call it. 132 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: I call it you want a Lauren Sancheza? You want 133 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: a Lauren Sanchez to shit, If you're gonna be with someone, 134 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: it needs to elevate your life to a to be 135 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: worth it, like a private, private private jet type of wealth. 136 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could. Could that be a possibility. Absolutely, what 137 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: app do you go on for that? It could be 138 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: an ass could be it could you just don't know. 139 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like, if you meet the right person, 140 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't think girls realize how much power they have 141 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: as far as like, I think we were taught to 142 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: like play hard to get and all that, and I 143 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: don't really think you have to play hard to get, 144 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: not about sex, but just like I think you need 145 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: to show whoever you're interested in that you're interested in them. 146 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then they have to work too, they have 147 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: to work too. 148 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: But I think you have to show that you like, 149 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: find them interesting, find them funny. These guys like want 150 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: to feel for whatever reason, when you meet someone over fifty, 151 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: like a guy they either was a horrible spouse or 152 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: they had a horrible spouse most likely, so they're either 153 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: a broken human being by a woman that shot on 154 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: them or they broke somebody else. So it's like it's 155 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: gonna be hard, but they're still the same guy that 156 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: you met when we were there's still the same type 157 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: of guys we met when they were twenty five, but 158 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: now they're like fifty five, and so it's just kind 159 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: of like you still can have all that same fun 160 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: and conversation and dating and you're still if you were 161 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: to really get out there, you'd find there was the 162 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: one that was like you had the great chemistry with 163 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: that's the player, the one that's like a little too 164 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: into you that now you're like, I mean, they're all 165 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: the same still there, They're all still from what I've 166 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: like studied for my friends. 167 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 3: They're all still the same, except instead. 168 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: Of it being nineteen ninety eight and you're at a 169 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: barn Manhattan beach, you're like, you know, going to Soho 170 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: and Malibu and having dinner and you know, and you 171 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: guys have you guys have homes. You know. 172 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, So just okay, I say, you just kind 173 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: of have your heart opened. 174 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: But I don't know if I kind of put it 175 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: out there and you just are like, huh, I don't know. 176 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: If I want a guy over fifty, yeah, go for younger, 177 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 3: maybe like mid to late forties. That sounds fair. 178 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: I've always been with older guys. Not Dean's eight years older. 179 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: It's not like a huge jump. But I'm just saying like. 180 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: That's the other thing, Yeah, Like do you want like 181 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: another Like when I'm married and I like when I 182 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: go like and I see these guys that are not 183 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: my husband that or that age, I'm like, oh my god. 184 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: I think if something happened, I just I don't think 185 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: i'd be pursuing that. I think I would be going 186 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: for the younger person really, because I wouldn't be looking 187 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: to get married again or have kids, or I don't 188 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm not in a financial place where I need to 189 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: like move in with someone. Like I have a friend 190 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: who's been with her boyfriend after her divorce, and she 191 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: had like a lot of boyfriends and then she got 192 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: this great guy. They've been together for like six years. 193 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: They just got engaged and she does she's an executive. 194 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: She does fine in life, and he does too, and 195 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: they are like, we're not gonna get married till his 196 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: youngest is like in college, where she's like, I just 197 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: don't want to deal with that. I don't want to 198 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,359 Speaker 1: be the stepmother. I don't want to like start rearranging 199 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: the house. In the meantime, he's gonna, like, you know, 200 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: start remodeling his house so that in three years when 201 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: they get married, then they can live together. But in 202 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: the meantime, I'm like, I think you're being so smart 203 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: about it, Like why you know, if you financially don't 204 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: need to move in with someone, you don't need to 205 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: sleep with someone every night in the same room. 206 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: I don't think so I'd prefer not to. 207 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so have a boyfriend that you see once in 208 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: a while, or go have sexy weekends or whatever, and 209 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: then all those other nights you just are like by yourself, 210 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: watching your show, scrolling TikTok, just with your kids. 211 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 3: Okay, my friend, thank you so much. I love you. Yes, 212 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 3: thank you so much. To see you in person so 213 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: we can talk shit. 214 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: Yes, let's definitely have you come on the show. 215 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: And then we'll go and we'll take. 216 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: The cart and see if we see any cute golfers 217 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: for you. 218 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: Oh, at your country club, we pick me. Yes, okay, okay, okay, 219 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 3: sounds like good. 220 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: All right, sounds good.