1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast still doesn't know if the 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday era was real. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: From the Chris Westley podcast Studio, It's Around the NFL. 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: I am Dan Hansis. I come to you from a 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: room filled with heroes. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. The flagship 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: program Week five Ooga, I shall do love football? Were 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: you better? 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: Because it's, you know, on these Sundays with these London games, 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: it's it's about twelve hours of football in a row. 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 3: And I made a huge mistake because I got up, 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: you know, like a professional. I got up at six 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 3: twenty five a Rosea bro Right started watching that game 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: of six thirty had a massive like jug of coffee 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: came in. I've been hanging out with Greg since you know, 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: eight thirty nine, and I had six more cups of 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: coffee today. 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: I really don't drick more than one in a day. 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: How much is in the jug? The first one was 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: a large mug. Oh that's like two two and a half. 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: I'd say, honestly, you've had eight and a half. I 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: lost count. Realized at some point it's largely on a boredom. 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: A little bit. 23 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 5: Will let our listeners decide if it's a performance enhancing 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 5: drug or not. Well it we'll be evaluating your performance closely. 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, shaking, Yeah, I'm all right. 26 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep an eye on you, Mark and uh, 27 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: we're gonna keep an eye out in Denver to make 28 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: sure there's not so many tiers that it leads to 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: flooding in that great state of Colorado. Oh wow, you know, 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: private tiers for Kevin James and company. But we'll get 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: to that later. Big day of football. Let's start where 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: we are heading in forty eight hours. Ooh to London. 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: Well, second down and eight from the thirty five yard line. 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: Of the Bills. 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 6: The Bills are out of timeouts, they got none left, 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 6: eight and a half cuffs and running again. 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: With em Peo parts out of there. 38 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: Twenty five twenty fifteen touchdown tims. 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: He did put a nail in this thing. He didn't score. 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 4: How good? Is that? Very good? If you are a 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: Jaguars fan. 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: I like that Travis Heaton team again who rushed for 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty six yards and two touchdowns in 44 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and the Jaguars take out the Bills 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: twenty five to twenty at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium in the 46 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: second of three London games this month. We like I said, 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: we'll be at the Hot Toddy next Sunday for Titans Ravens. 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: But for right now, let's talk about an upset Gregie. 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 2: Let's start here and and the obvious note, we doomed 50 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: the Bills with the triple lock. They played like a 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: jet lag team that flew to Europe fueled by a 52 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: rational ATM confidence in one. 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: Hit us three in a row. Give it to us. 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: What that's for, Greg, I'll do And the one more 55 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: ye lose we heard from a lot of Jacks fans. 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 5: I just want to say thanks to you guys for 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 5: following me on that lock. If I'm going to lose 58 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 5: by first lock of the year, this is the way 59 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 5: I like. 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: The way your brain works, like we were following you. 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I said it, I said it first, and then 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 5: then you guys jumped down as if as if greg 63 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 5: But you know what, as I said, I was okay 64 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 5: with losing this because that would take I'm Murcury Morse 65 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 5: popping the champagne bottles. 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 2: Because Gregie just took it out. 67 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: Oh uh, that's not the way I look at it. 68 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 5: But look, I should have known you go against teams 69 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 5: when it comes to the locks, and I wasn't really 70 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 5: buying what the Jaguars had done this season to this point. 71 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 5: But this performance on both sides of the ball was 72 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 5: so complete and so special. But Trevor Lawrence was the 73 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 5: one that was ultimately special. We could have if we 74 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 5: wanted to run the highlight of the key play of 75 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 5: the game that was earlier in that drive, the game 76 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 5: winning drive, when it's third and four and Travis Trevor 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 5: Lawrence checks to a play. It was confirmed by Calvin 78 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 5: Ridley afterwards it was going to be a running play. 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 5: He saw that Calvin Ridley has single coverage on the outside, 80 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 5: I believe it was with the safety, and he says, 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 5: I'm taking that. I'm gonna go hook up the guy 82 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 5: that we signed for all this money, traded for all 83 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 5: all these picks and go to him on the outside. 84 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 5: And it beat an aggressive Sean McDermott who had to 85 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 5: start sending extra rushers late in the game because of injuries. 86 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 5: It was a perfect throw, it was a perfect catch, 87 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 5: and I don't know if they really had that outside 88 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 5: receiver a year ago at this time that can win 89 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: that specific play in a beautiful play and that's a 90 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 5: game winning play. 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: I mean, what we saw from Calvin Ridley in the opener, 92 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: I thought, if we're gonna get this every week from him, 93 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: this offense is totally transformed. And it's been like quiet 94 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: since then to some degree. Today when they were up 95 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 3: eleven nothing and dominating Buffalo, who. 96 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm with you, I feel like, I don't. You can't 97 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: just tag a team with jet lag, but like they 98 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: seemed like Stefan Diggs called Josh Allen's sleepyhead after he 99 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: that wasn't joking because now as we know, the the 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: Gags were there for two weeks and the Bills I 101 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: think got there like forty eight hours before the game. 102 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 4: That makes a huge difference. 103 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 2: I think it's a factor. 104 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: And it's like I think all these teams are learning, 105 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: like how to deal with the London thing, and it 106 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: was a massive advantage, and like the Bills, I think, 107 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: on top of it, came out complaining about the field. 108 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: I mean outside of the result. 109 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: To lose Matt Milano, who is a core centerpiece of 110 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: your defense and he's out for the year, day Kwon 111 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: Jones a pff darling, they lost him. 112 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: Von Miller didn't finish the game. He's like Leonard Floyd 113 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: got banged up at Oliver Tron Johnson, Dion Dawkins, like 114 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: they really like this is one of those games where 115 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: it's like you lost and you were averaging forty points 116 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: a game. Everything went wrong. 117 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 4: Like what I liked. 118 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: About the Bills the last couple of weeks was the 119 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: balance where they were running the ball so well and 120 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 3: they had fifteen yards from the running backs. That just 121 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: sort of everything went wrong and even they still had 122 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: a chance to. 123 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 5: But I give it the Jacks credit for that, Like 124 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 5: their run defense has been outstanding. That was the worst 125 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 5: Bills rushing game since twenty fourteen, the entire McDermot era. 126 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 5: That was where and they came into this game running 127 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 5: the ball great. 128 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: And I'm glad you highlighted that pass to Ridley which 129 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: they hit with what was it, about three h nine 130 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: to go in the fourth quarter. That way, you're fine too, 131 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: And it was a perfect throw with pressure and Ridley 132 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: making the big play. 133 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: That's why they brought him in here. 134 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: And I think the throw is also kind of emblematic 135 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: of in general Trevor Lawrence and I know like PFF, 136 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: for instance, had him as the number two QB. 137 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: I believe it was. Yeah, to this point, he had 138 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: been playing well. 139 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: It just the team hadn't really been playing well, and 140 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: that was a throw that in the box score maybe 141 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: just looks like a twenty five yard pass or whatever. 142 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: But that's like, that is what Trevor Lawrence is capable of. 143 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: I think this guy has huge moments in his career 144 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: ahead of him, and big games in January, and we're 145 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: just starting to scratch a surface. So it's like, as 146 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: flat as the Jaguars have felt, this game was the 147 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: one that was like, Okay, you picked up the one 148 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: win last week in London, that was fine, you win 149 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: this game. It's like you're you're kind of his service 150 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: as a reminder they should be taken seriously in an AFC. 151 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: That again, GREGI, he feels just so wide open right 152 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: now where we stand that why can't the Jags get 153 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: hot and figure some things out and with Lawrence at 154 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: the controls, be a team that can get out of there. 155 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 5: I always try to I think September is relatively irrelevant. 156 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 4: That's a terrible quote. 157 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: They do count. 158 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 5: I mean the games count the same, but you want 159 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 5: to be rounding into for him right now. The Jaguars 160 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: feel better than they have all season, Like there are 161 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 5: certain things that have been frustrating Lawrence going through his 162 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 5: progressions too quickly and taking the checkdown. Today they were 163 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 5: throwing deeper down the field throughout, like plus ten throws 164 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: from the very beginning, so it wasn't just the checkdowns today. 165 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 4: I thought that was better. 166 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 5: Like, Okay, our offensive line might not be great, but 167 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 5: let's let Trevor Lawrence do what he does best, which 168 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 5: is avoid sacks, which he did today so many times. 169 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 5: And I do think McDermott's changed too. They are in 170 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 5: Buffalo a little bit because of the injuries and because 171 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 5: he's different than Leslie Frazier and sending lots of pressure, 172 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 5: and for the most part, the pressure got there and 173 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 5: Lawrence just made miss And I think he's gonna have 174 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 5: to start thinking about changing who he is in terms 175 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 5: of what he tells ken Dorsey to do on fourth downs, 176 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 5: because there were twice in this game early where they 177 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 5: had a fourth and one and a fourth and three 178 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 5: they didn't go for either one. 179 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: And I don't know with these injuries, and I know 180 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: one of them was on their side. 181 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: Of the field, and so it's hard to ask but 182 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 5: this is such a good offense, I feel like he 183 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 5: should do it. 184 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: The Milano injury that you're referred to already, that is 185 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: that's just rough for them to quote damn check. He's 186 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: the jenga piece of their defense. And if this is it, 187 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 2: if you know the way he was carted off, and 188 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: I don't know what the reporting out there is right now, 189 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: but if he had like what NFL Network described with 190 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: Rich Eisen on the call, that he had the air 191 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: cast on it as they took him out of the field, 192 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: that's never a sign. 193 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: He has been diagnosed with a fractured legs. 194 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: Brutal brutal loss. So that is a huge challenge now 195 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: for Sean McDermott because I think this defense we were 196 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: talking about going into this game. This seat was his 197 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: rounding up as the most well rounded Bills a team 198 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: in some time, and now it's like, are. 199 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: They going to be the best? I don't think they'll be. 200 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: They can't be as good if you take your Davis 201 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: White out of this mix, and now you take Matt 202 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: Mulatto out. 203 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: Of the mix. That's two major pieces of what they're 204 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: trying to do. 205 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the whole thing is trying to find 206 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: the team that can survive injuries or stay relatively healthy. 207 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 4: And I know we say that. 208 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: I feel like Greg, we've talked about this like every 209 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: sunny He's like, are there just more injuries than normal 210 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: this year? And it's like, probably statistically not, but it's 211 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: like the Bills were ravaged today, totally taken up. I 212 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: think aj Panessa had a great game in with a 213 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: lot of these guys out stuff like that. 214 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: They ran out of gas. Well yeah, I mean it's 215 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 2: just as bad. I don't know. 216 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: I just I will say one thing, like, I know 217 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: we're kind of been hot and cold on Travis Eutn. 218 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: I thought you looked. 219 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 5: Eight hundred and eighty four yards from screwage. He's mister London. 220 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: He had one hundred and fourteen. You got to give 221 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 5: urban Meyer his perps. That draft class he had. 222 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: Was pretty good. 223 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's drafts. 224 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 5: I'm just saying their draft class Sid Serve Admire haven't 225 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 5: really been too good, but that one worked out. 226 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 4: Yes, anything else to hit on this game. 227 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: I think they should just stay in London. Well here's 228 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I'm not taking anything away from the deck. 229 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: They put so much into growing their brand in London 230 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: and it was a Bill's crowd. That's a tough one. Yeah, 231 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: that's probably a little bit of humble pie for JAG's 232 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: ownership that really has invested in being the team there. 233 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: But what we've learned and what we've seen and we're 234 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: going to see it again next week when we're there, 235 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: is that these games become a celebration for everyone to 236 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: rep their favorite players and their favorite teams. But Bill's 237 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: MafA either traveled incredibly well and I was part of it, 238 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: or maybe this Jaguars foothold isn't necessarily what you think 239 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: it is that. 240 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: Or they were pretty loud for the Jags too. It's 241 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 4: one of those like they're just having a good time 242 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 4: there right. 243 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: There could be a massive amount of UK based Bandwagon 244 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: fans that jumped on the Bills spandwagon too. 245 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 246 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: Yes, as Hank said to us, Handsome Hank Henry Hodgson, 247 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: vice president out there, that the Patriots were like the 248 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: most popular team there the last twenty years and that's 249 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: probably going to fade away now and we'll get to 250 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: Theay real fast later, so we'll see what happens. But 251 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: that that crowd is red hot there. The hot Toddy. 252 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 7: Uh. 253 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: They were singing, they were doing Oasis karaoke. Save that 254 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: energy for when Zeusser gets there. I heard that driving 255 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: in and like, I was like, if they don't repeat 256 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: that simply for you, Sweet Caroline. I understand that's becoming 257 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: a tradition for the London fans. And that was a 258 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: goosebumps bumps moment. But what I what I need is 259 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: a little don't look back, and I don't know. 260 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 5: I feel like sweet Caroline is our most embarrassing export 261 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 5: right now. 262 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: Let's let's be better America. Aren't you from the Boston area. 263 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 5: Like a lot of Red Suxits, they've always hated the 264 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 5: sweet Caroline thing. 265 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: Ogg the New England fans, they're in trouble. All right, 266 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 2: Let's move on, head back to our shores. 267 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 8: Uh. 268 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: And to Pittsburgh where, oh my god, this is one 269 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: of the craziest games I've ever watched. 270 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 4: Steelers down too trying to get into at least field 271 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: goal ring. 272 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 9: Here's a shotgun, snap, blitch, he's back, he throws it 273 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 9: down the air sideline. 274 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: Pickens has it. 275 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 10: Pittsburgh Steelers Tech do pictus to Pickens forty one yards 276 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 10: and you. 277 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: Have to be here exactly, and so he did. That's 278 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 2: manly blueberry pie. Oh oh, put that Eric into the 279 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: folder of Vest calls of the year. Woo aunt Millie's 280 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 2: blueberry Pie. I'd have to go check that again, but 281 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: I believe it was Aunt Millie. Okay, please do Bill 282 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: Hillgrove and that was Craig Wolfley. I believe with the 283 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: call w d v E. The Steelers had no business 284 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 2: even having an opportunity to take the lead in the 285 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: fourth quarter on Sunday at the field formerly known as Hines. 286 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: But the Ravens made thirty four thousand mental and physical errors. 287 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: And that's an exact figure. I was tracking it right 288 00:12:59,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: on the dot. 289 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, rounded there, and Kenny Pickett delivered that forty one 290 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 2: yard rainbow to George Pickens with one seventeen to go, 291 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: allowed the Steelers to rally to a crazy seventeen to 292 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: ten win. And the reason I say they had no business, boys, 293 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: is this was one of the worst performances by a 294 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: group of skill players around a quarterback that you will 295 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: ever see. Lamar Jackson time and time again throughout this game. 296 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: And he's not completely innocent because he had a horrific 297 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: interception in the final minutes that played a role on 298 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: how things ended. But he threw not one, not two, 299 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: but three balls that absolutely should have been touchdowns, all 300 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: of them dropped. We also had a fumble near midfield 301 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: I mentioned, Jackson had an interception of his own, and 302 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: all these physical errors allowed a Pittsburgh team that looked 303 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: horrific for especially the offense, I should say, but the 304 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: defense wasn't any great shakes either. They were getting bailed 305 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: out by Ravens. Errors allowed them to hang around and 306 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: every time you just felt like the game was over. 307 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: Gunner Oshewski, Yeah, he muffed a punt in the final 308 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: minutes and it's like, all right, after all that madness 309 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh had, just they're not gonna They're not gonna do it. 310 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: That's when Jackson throws the pick and that leads to 311 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: the big touchdown finally Piket to Pickens And by the way, 312 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: Matt Canada, that's a great play call because you could 313 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: have played that conservative, but they surprised the Ravens and 314 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: beat him with the big throw. So it's it's a 315 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: crazy game, Mark because the Ravens had no business losing it, 316 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: and it's gonna be something their fans Ravens Sens will 317 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: never forget this loss because. 318 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: It was that bad and it came against your hated 319 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: rival in a very kind of raven Z steelersy type 320 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: Bizarro affair. 321 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: H this was a weird stat that John Harbaugh. 322 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: There are four occasions where John Harbaugh has held the 323 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: Steelers to three points through three quarters. They are zero 324 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: to four under John Harbaugh in those games. A lot 325 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: has to happen for that to for that to refer 326 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: all the way it did today. Uh, And it came 327 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: just in time for Pittsburgh in terms of like when 328 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: they finally got that pass to George Picken two. I 329 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: I thought it was seen what sort of an edging 330 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: on the world and becoming a true star. And he's 331 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: had a bit of a tough season in that offense. 332 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: He's oh for eight on contested catches coming into this game, 333 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: anymore turn that around today and two for two on 334 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: the game winning drive. Yeah, so that's who he is. 335 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: But it's like, I mean, I feel like we were 336 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: three quarters into this and it's like, were they going 337 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: to fire Matt Canna at halftime? And it's like this 338 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: guy seemed presumably just out the door, and you get 339 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: what you did. Joey Porter Junior makes a big play. 340 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: It's like, I really always loved that draft pick. And 341 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: Alex high Smith had a big play and think they 342 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: thought maybe he wouldn't even play today, and he had 343 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: that big strip sack. 344 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: So I don't know if your balts run with you 345 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: like this is a this is a tough one to 346 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: swallow it. I didn't even mention the block punt that 347 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: was nearly picked up for a touchdown but went for 348 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: a safety, right John Harbaugh, And we'll here for John 349 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: Harbaugh in one second. 350 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: John Harbaugh also. 351 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: Passed on a forty one yard field goal for Justin 352 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: Tucker that would have been some not just stat padding, 353 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: it would have given them just a little more breathing room. 354 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: And almost stubbornly, it was like he was so confident 355 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: that the Pittsburgh Steelers would never put anything together that 356 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: he thought he could get that first down, and they 357 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: don't get the first down and you lead points on 358 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: the board. 359 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 4: Harbaugh after the game said, we. 360 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 11: Just got to get better operational things and clean stuff 361 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 11: up and make those plays. I think we're that close 362 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 11: in so many ways, but that's the difference in a 363 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 11: game on the road like this in this kind of 364 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 11: a rivalry game. So we'll learn from it. We have 365 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 11: to and get better and move forward and be better 366 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 11: next week. 367 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: In those areas, it's like people talked about this as 368 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: potentially the best division in football, and I see major 369 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: questions marks marks with every one of them. 370 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: Well, the Ravens, though, should be five. And oh so 371 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 5: if you had asked me going into today who had 372 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 5: the worst loss of the season. This the game in 373 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 5: which they had most opportunities to win and they absolutely 374 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 5: blew it time after time, I would have immediately said 375 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 5: Ravens Colts Week three. 376 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the worst loss of the season to me. 377 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 5: They had about fifteen different times in that game where 378 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 5: if they just made one player didn't do something stupid, 379 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 5: they would have won that game. 380 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 4: And they lost that game and then they lost this one. 381 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 5: And I don't think that's something that's like analytically gonna 382 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 5: continue season after season. But I do think you have 383 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 5: personalities within a season, and the fact that they have 384 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 5: messed that up and that John Harbaugh coaches up one 385 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 5: of the worst special teams units I've ever seen. I mean, 386 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 5: it has Justin Tucker on it, and Tucker has been fine. 387 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 5: But other than that, their special teams has cost them 388 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 5: literally every single game they went into this week twenty 389 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 5: ninth in Dvoa in terms of special teams, despite having 390 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 5: Tucker and week after week that that's been a huge 391 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 5: problem for them. 392 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 4: And they do it again well and even in. 393 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: That Cults game. 394 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: And this is not on Justin Tucker, he's superhuman, but 395 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: to have him miss that sixty one yard field goal, 396 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 3: it fell just feet short, that was the difference in 397 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: that game. 398 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 5: Right, but even yeah, the punt block was huge and 399 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 5: it's and it stinks because Lamar has played you know, 400 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 5: sounds like he played well, but he also turned the 401 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 5: ball over there two times with a chance to win, 402 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 5: and he. 403 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: Will he will feel like you should have done you. 404 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: Sodell Beckham's still a difference maker on any level. Was 405 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: he just fading It was a difference maker for a 406 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: few weeks like three years ago here. 407 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 2: Well yeah, but for the most part, he is who 408 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: he is. He's hurt all the time. He left this 409 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: game after missing a couple of weeks. 410 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 5: But like that pickings catch by the way before the 411 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 5: game winner was special, and that was like an Odell 412 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 5: Beckham type of catch. And that is like someone putting 413 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 5: the team on his back as a receiver and making 414 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 5: two plays that not too many people would and listen. 415 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's three and two. I don't know, you know, of 416 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: course Baltimore could be five and oh, but they're not 417 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: there three and two Pittsburgh. They could be owned five 418 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 2: like Pittsburgh has been. 419 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. 420 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: I don't know about own five, but they could easily 421 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: be one in four, like they are a team that 422 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: has still made issues on offense. And I got I 423 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: didn't get into it, but I was catching a little 424 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: bit of heat from Steelers fans on Twitter because I 425 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: had I had the surprise they can spell yeah, this 426 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: is your team, this is your twelve with team well, 427 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: I had, I had the golf reference the offensive struggles, 428 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: but not put pinnant directly on mat Canada. And that 429 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: fan base is so zeroed in on Canada that every 430 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: time in that stadium they ran the ball on first down, 431 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: the booze came running down. And then that's part of 432 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: what their frustration is that there's a predictable nature to 433 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: the offense, so it doesn't cure everything. Again just like 434 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: they made like the Cleveland game comes to mind, like 435 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: you came out of that game. That film great about Cleveland, 436 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: at least not on offense, but they made enough plays 437 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: to get by the same thing happened here. Pittsburgh is 438 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: by no means fixed on offense, but the defense makes 439 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: big plays and there is potential there if they could 440 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: just clean things themselves up themselves. But man, Baltimore won 441 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: this more than Pittsburgh won it. You are too and 442 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: own your division. If you're Pittsburgh. I don't buy into 443 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: the future journey. But that's that's not the one. 444 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 5: Mike Tommon's going to own this rivalry. I think it's 445 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 5: six to seven right now, six to seven or seven 446 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 5: of eight, all right. 447 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: I called it, what was it, the Battle of the 448 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: Golden Retriever versus the German Shepherd Chiefs Vikings from Minneapolis. 449 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: I thought it would be close. It was pretty close. 450 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: Let's head to Minnesota. 451 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 8: Twenty seven to twenty Kansas City five suconds to go 452 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 8: in the game. The Vikings had the ball at the 453 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 8: Kansas City thirty eight yard low. Chief set four guys 454 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 8: DB's back along with Kelsey Cousins trying to be harassed stop. 455 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: Bring off his sock how that will be there, a 456 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: sack of groceries to take home. 457 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: It's a grabb and go out, just go finles on line, 458 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 4: but keep it and run with it. 459 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 10: A sack by Mike Danna in the game, and the 460 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 10: Kansas City Chiefs got their first win in the Twin 461 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 10: Cities since nineteen ninety six. And Patrick Mahomes gets a 462 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 10: victory here the last team he has not beaten. 463 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 4: Good lord, you know, yeah already that's fast. 464 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: Midge Holt, who had a bunch of crazy stuff in 465 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: that call there Chiefs Radio. Yes, Patrick Mahomes through two 466 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: touchdown passes. Travis Kelcey a real injury scare, an ankle 467 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: injury in the first half, but he came back and 468 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: of course he scored a touchdown and the Chiefs get 469 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: that stop that they needed at the end to take 470 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: home at twenty seven to twenty win over the Vikings 471 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: who fall to one in four. And yes, this was 472 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: a game guys where again you're seeing the Chiefs. It 473 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: doesn't come easy for the Chiefs on offense right now, 474 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 2: it just and if Kelsey is going to be less 475 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: than one hundred percent, and quite frankly, despite all the 476 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: Taylor swift, drama and the excitement around Kelsey. He hasn't 477 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: had a big time Kelsey year. This year he seems 478 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: to be you know, he missed week one and I 479 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: don't want to say he's been a step slow, but 480 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: he's definitely been kind of banged up along the way. 481 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 4: And it happened again here. 482 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: So if you don't have Kelsey playing at peak form, 483 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: I think that's what the difference between last year and 484 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: this year is. And you can say the enemy's gone too, 485 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: but you know Andy's calling the plays here is that 486 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: they were able to paper over any deficiencies in terms 487 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 2: of their skill group because Kelsey was playing at an 488 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 2: all world level. When when he's coming down a little 489 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: bit here, then you're you're putting Mahomes in a more 490 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: difficult situation. So that said, you take care of business 491 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: in this game. This was a game that Vikings really 492 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: needed to win, and yet Kansas City, as they often do, 493 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: they found a way. 494 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 5: I think it was unintentional on that call by mitt 495 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 5: I felt us that he said he said kirk Cousins 496 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 5: trying to be harassed, right, But that kind of was 497 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 5: how that play played out. That kirk Cousins went back 498 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 5: there and almost started looking for the pressure, not looking 499 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 5: to go down, but as if like he's expecting that 500 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 5: pressure to get there and to not throw the ball 501 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 5: up is just such a frustrating Kirk Cousins way to 502 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 5: end that game. 503 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're now one in four and one 504 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: score games. You know, Lota A. 505 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 3: We know that they're head in that direction, but this 506 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: was an odd one from a distance because like both 507 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 3: teams had only eight drives, and I know the Chiefs 508 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 3: have been I think they're kind of they're missing obviously 509 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: like a chess piece of mismatched type guy that you 510 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: can pair with Kelsey. He wasn't there in week one. Kelsey, 511 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: you missed him for part of today. He's banged up, 512 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: and it's like who do you turn to? And like, yet, 513 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: what I do like about them and why I trust 514 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 3: them and that they'll work the way out of this 515 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: is like you have a nine play touchdown drive, you 516 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: have a twelve play field goal drive, You've got another 517 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: ten play field goal drive, and then two pair twin 518 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: eleven play touchdown drive. So it's not perfect, and there's 519 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 3: there's something about them that's like you're kind of a 520 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: bit of a frustrating watch at times, but I trust 521 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: them worked a way out of it and they're still 522 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: moving the ball. 523 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: And like, I think if any thing that. 524 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: Stood out to me in this game was when you're 525 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: the Vikings and you're trying to win these tight games 526 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: because it seems like every week you're in them, you 527 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: can't blow your third time out with like nine minutes 528 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: minutes to go. And I'm not like a time person, 529 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: a timeout person that doesn't stick in my head too often, 530 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: but it's like nine that was mismanagement. 531 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: Nine minutes to go you call your third time out 532 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: in a game where you're scrambling on the last possession. 533 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 5: So you know, I would have to do where you 534 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 5: take a delay a game penalty to turn a fourth 535 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 5: and seven with the game on the line to a 536 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 5: fourth and twelve. Like and I'm not saying that they 537 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 5: needed their time out there. That would have been a 538 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 5: waste of it there too. It's just like the operation 539 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 5: was struggling. 540 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that's Kevin O'Connell and Kirk Cousins. 541 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: They wear that, yes, And going back to Kelsey, it 542 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: was pretty frightening because there was a world where as 543 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: I was coming into the office. After the end of 544 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: the second quarter, I was like, did Travis Kelsey just 545 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: blow his achilles? It was a bad step, yeah, the 546 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: way it turned. And then he slams the helmet down 547 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: when he gets to the sideline, and and but he 548 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: returned and and x rays came back negative. And obviously 549 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: they seem to dodge a major bullet, but they're not 550 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: in the clear Gregory. There seems like there's something they 551 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: need on offense to click in here. Somebody has to 552 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: step into a role. Maybe it's Rice who had a 553 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: score today, but they're able to get through things even 554 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: though they're not the Chiefs that we know. 555 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 5: Maybe it's someone on the trade market at some point there. 556 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 5: If there was a team that, I don't think they 557 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 5: want me called back, Jerry Judy because these close games. 558 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 5: You know, we've talked all season about the regression for 559 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: the Vikings, you know, who won their last six games 560 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 5: last year by one score, including all three in the 561 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 5: playoffs the Kansas City Chiefs, and then three out of 562 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: four this year in one score games. But to be 563 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 5: able to win in different types of ways is still 564 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 5: extremely impressive to me. Because they're a defensive team. They 565 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 5: and run the ball when they needed to. But the 566 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 5: whole idea of like you can't blitz Patrick Mahomes anymore. 567 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 5: Brian Floores, I think blitzed them more than any team 568 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 5: has in three or four years. And you know they 569 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 5: only ended up with three hundred and thirty three yards Yeah, 570 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 5: five point two. I mean, I know they got it done, 571 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 5: but they weren't killing him like you would previously when 572 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 5: you blitz. 573 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 3: Now, I do think the Vikings defense has shown improvement, 574 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: like they're this scheme works for them, and it's like 575 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: they're missing parts though not. 576 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 4: Enough though, four or five? Who oh yeah the west Bros. 577 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh come on, dude, I don't of all the 578 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: brother say some of the brothers the Cincinnati Zoo. 579 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 4: I didn't even get. 580 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: I was busy, you know, prepping for the show. But 581 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: apparently there's a all out like warn in the and 582 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: the text thread between uh yes, Westling brothers after a lock. 583 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: I checked that after work? What Greg, what's going on? 584 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 5: Well? 585 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 2: Very fiery, I mean they just picked up a game 586 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: on everyone in the standings after our our bozo lock 587 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: of Buffalo. 588 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm now dead. 589 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 5: That Phil sends out, Yeah that that Mackie's on a 590 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 5: roll his son, and Nick is not pleased even that 591 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 5: that Phil's and he says, quote the Rosenthal approach is working, 592 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 5: which I don't know what that is winning? 593 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: Winning? 594 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 5: Nick says, uh Nick Nick approaches ratings gold and and 595 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 5: uh that it's embarrassing. 596 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. Get them back in the cages. 597 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: By the way, I've been beaten by a youth and 598 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: now sit in last place. 599 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 4: It happens marked a lot of season, a lot of 600 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 4: season left for the record. 601 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: Marks. I know you asked about this, You're all over this. 602 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: What Jim Nance has an update on what everybody wanted 603 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: to know. Does does this romance between Kelsey and Andylor's 604 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift extend to Minneapolis in the fall? 605 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 9: Listening Jim Nance, welcome back to US Bank Stadium here 606 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 9: in Minneapolis. In case you're wondering, She's seven words I 607 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 9: thought would never leave my lips in my career. 608 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: What are the Taylor. 609 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 4: Swift is not at the game? 610 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 9: That's the first fee I've never said that before. There's 611 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 9: a broken hearted people. I just saw on the stands. 612 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 9: She was questionable whole week. But it looks like it's 613 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 9: officially inactive. 614 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: Like literally people consoling each other there swiftly with Swifties 615 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: on the back of their jersey. 616 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 4: There was there was a girl there. 617 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: It just looked like she was in her twenties that 618 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: had a Taylor Swift Vikings jersey. Did she did that 619 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: young woman spend like one hundred dollars, Yeah, to wear 620 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: a jersey that game on the off chance that Taylor 621 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: Swift would be sitting like three hundred feet up in a. 622 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: Lit Yes, I don't understand that. What's happening here is 623 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: there's no other scenario. She would have bought that jersey, 624 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: you know, weeks ago or a month. She is the 625 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: pie piper NFL is absolutely in love with the whole situation. 626 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 5: The only thing worse than I did silence after a joke, 627 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: though that names makes Tarny Ramo's fake laugh like that's 628 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 5: actually worse. 629 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 4: Silence, Arett be better? 630 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: Romo was not listening. There's no chance. 631 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 4: Definitely. 632 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: She mentioned Justin Jefferson who got banged up in this game. Well, 633 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: he had a hamstring tweak. We're not sure about the 634 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: severity of it, but obviously that would be very bad news. 635 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell didn't sound overly optimists. They didn't nobody also 636 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 5: said we believe our offense will be in good shape 637 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 5: whenever JJ gets back. 638 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, sound great. 639 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 2: It looked well. I mean it just looked like, oh, 640 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: that's going to be lingering on his body four months. 641 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: I like watching the Vikings, but not if Justin Jefferson 642 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: ain't home. All right, let us head to the desert 643 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: where the Cardinals drew another tough opponent, but ritt. 644 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 4: The Bengals a tough opponent right now. Well, let's see 645 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 4: what happened today. 646 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 12: Second in goal from the three, Burrow in the gun, 647 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 12: he catches at the eight. 648 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: He fakes to mix him now rolling to the right, 649 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 4: back pedaling. 650 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 12: To the thirteen through Jamar Chase on the back line 651 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 12: of the oh with his third touchdown catch. Oh yes, 652 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 12: he sets a new Bengals record with his fourteenth catch 653 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 12: up the game unbelievable. 654 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: He's like, DJ Moore, I got you okay, Oh AFC, 655 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 4: Jill Burrow might be back. 656 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: The quarterback threw for three hundred and seventeen yards and 657 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: three touchdown passes, all to yes Jamar Chase, matching what 658 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: DJ Moore did on Thursday Night Football see, and that's 659 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: how it tied together, and he finished with a season 660 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: high hundred is here that is a professional lever poll 661 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: by U Dan. He finished with the season high one 662 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety a buck ninety two. See that didn't 663 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 2: match DJ Moore though, to be fair, no, but you know, 664 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: in terms pretty like catches, he eclipsed him and then 665 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: he matched touchdowns in the game, it's about scoring, so 666 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: really taking in on this angle, well, fantasy challenged and 667 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: the Bengals beat the Cardinals thirty four to twenty. Let's 668 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: now welcome in a man who I'm sure watch us 669 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: like the rest of us with trapping. Which version of 670 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow showed. 671 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 4: Up and. 672 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: Obviously was a far more productive version, mister Shook, How 673 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: do he look to you? 674 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 13: It's one hundred percent. 675 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 7: He was about as close as it gets to one 676 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 7: hundred percent for a guy who was lingering about fifty 677 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 7: percent to the first month of the season. It felt 678 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 7: like I watched Joe Burrow go into some healing cryogenic 679 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 7: chamber from some sci fi movie and stepped out and 680 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 7: was like, I'm back and I'm here destroyed the Cardinals. 681 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: Maybe he borrowed mister Johnson and Johnson's cryo chamber in Malibu, 682 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: you never. 683 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 13: Know, or wherever they froze. Ted Williams, yeah that is Arizona. 684 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is an Arizona. That is the right state. 685 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 7: So that's how he played it. Baically proved it. Joe 686 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 7: Burrow was fantastic, guys, he was great. This is the 687 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 7: most I was watching this pretty close thing. 688 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: It's like the most hopeful thing that happened all day 689 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: today league wide, because it's like, well Sean Payton lost today, 690 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: all right, well they're coming from depending on your POV. 691 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 3: But it's like we were a player that couldn't simply 692 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: couldn't function, and it's like, I don't know what happened 693 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: over the last week. I mean, I do his body, 694 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: you know, keeled? I guess I guess that's from a 695 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 3: bird's of you, that's what happened. 696 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: But like it happened suddenly quickly, and like Jamar Chase, 697 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: who was lost in space for the whole first part 698 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: of this season, what happens to him is insane and 699 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: it's like we can believe in this team again. In 700 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: a really weird AFC. 701 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: I kind of feel like this was the one of 702 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 3: the bigger turning points we've we've seen in the first month. 703 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 4: I believe. 704 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 7: Jamar Chase after the game tweeted seven to eleven. You 705 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 7: know always open, because he was always open in this game. Yeah, 706 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 7: it was remarkable, Mark, You're absolutely right. I mean, it 707 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 7: was a It was a game where you went in 708 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 7: and thought, well, if Joe Burrow is still what he's 709 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 7: been for the last month, the Cardinals will have a 710 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 7: chance because they play with their hair on fire in 711 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 7: every game, and they're a little sloppy and sometimes they 712 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 7: come away with victories and other times they make it interesting. 713 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 13: Well, they made this one interesting, but they just didn't 714 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 13: have enough to keep. 715 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 7: Up with the newly reimagined Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase 716 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 7: out to set records and give multiple touchdown passall I like. 717 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 4: Enjoy it. He's fed up. Continue to talk like that. 718 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 4: I thought it was very telling. 719 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 5: After the game, Joe Burrow said that this felt like 720 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 5: their game of year ago against New Orleans. 721 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 4: I believe was the example a game that. Yeah that 722 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 4: that I don't think they did they win that. 723 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 5: They won that game in New Orleans and that was 724 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 5: a bit of a turning point where they started the 725 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 5: season slow and it was the slugfest back and forth 726 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 5: and I also looked at those touchdowns. And I wouldn't 727 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 5: watch this game closely, but I saw enough to see 728 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 5: those two plays were out of the pocket. 729 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 4: They were not first reaction plays. 730 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 5: They were second reaction plays, you know, creative him moving 731 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 5: and that just like those plays were not available the 732 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 5: last few weeks. 733 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 4: That makes a pretty good difference. 734 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: That was the key to me. 735 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 7: That was the big difference was that he was navigating 736 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 7: the pocket, he was rolling out, he was even scrabbling 737 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 7: a little bit for some positive gains. I felt like 738 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 7: I had gone on a time machine back to last year. 739 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 7: Maybe it was New Orleans, maybe it was another game. 740 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 7: He was back to his old self. And I'm not 741 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 7: gonna say he's one hundred percent yet because we haven't 742 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 7: quite seen that, but he's really close to him. 743 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: He's so much further long than he was before. 744 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 7: And Dance it better watch out AFC, because if this 745 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 7: is the Bengals, even without t Higgins, if Joe Burrow's 746 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 7: back like this, they are a force in this conference again, 747 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 7: not just the division, but this conference. 748 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 13: And that whole month where they were not good, well 749 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 13: y'all took that for granted. 750 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's Burrow and when he's healthy, they're gonna 751 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: be good. Here's the quote from him about he's admitting, 752 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow that what he wasn't and what he was 753 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: today about his mobility moving out of the pocket, It's 754 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 2: something I haven't been able to do the last couple 755 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: of weeks. When the quarterback can't do that, can't steal 756 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: first downs, can't extend plays to find guys, it's tough 757 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 2: to move the ball. It felt good today. It does 758 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: beg the question when he was acknowledging he couldn't do 759 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: any of those things, should he have been playing. But 760 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: there's also this like the magic of Burrow and why 761 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 2: I think he's one of the more dynamic talents that's 762 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: entered the league in a long time is that he 763 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: does have that kind of that magic to him. And 764 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: when they needed to gut out that win when they 765 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 2: were zero to two and avoid an zero to three start, 766 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: he got that. And now after an ugly game last week, 767 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 2: backs against the wall again, he finds a way. And 768 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what cryo chamber he was in, or 769 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: if it's just time has allowed the cap to get healthier. 770 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 2: We certainly he's not out of the woods because he's 771 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: already had one significant setback. But like it's just the 772 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: magic of this guy and how special he is, and 773 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: it's why if, if this is going to be a 774 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: situation where he's going to continue to build on this, 775 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: Like they are going to be a house on fire 776 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: down the stretch just like they were last year. 777 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 13: Yeah, so far. 778 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 7: I mean, their defense is playing well. Their defense is 779 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 7: what's kept them in most of the games that they've 780 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 7: been closed in. That's what won in the Rams game. 781 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 7: Joe Mason looks good. Just overall is the unit. They 782 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 7: look solid, and if they get their momentum going here, 783 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 7: then you know, everybody better watch it out. 784 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: The Cardinals are. 785 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 3: They're hyper frisky, and I think that's like they're enjoyable 786 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: to watch in my opinion. They had a really big 787 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: goal line stand on Joe Mixon when they were only 788 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 3: down fourteen to ten, and you thought at that point, 789 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: like are they going to do what they've been doing 790 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 3: week after week? And then they then Josh Dobbs, who 791 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: has been pretty good this season. They were up fourteen 792 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 3: to ten, that up fourteen to ten, and then like 793 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 3: they he throws the pick six and like you kind 794 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 3: of feel the tide turning at that point, and it's 795 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 3: like they're that's a team that can't make that key mistake. 796 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 3: I mean, but they, I will say that, like they 797 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 3: seem well coached. To me, they're buying into it, like 798 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 3: this Dennis guard deck guy is like out there kicking 799 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: people's butts. 800 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: I kind of just like them. 801 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 13: We know, yeah, they the buying is definitely there, but 802 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 13: I think it's more of a team. 803 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 4: That's the eighth cup of coffee talking. 804 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 2: They didn't but I don't know what when they lost. 805 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: They lost James Connor and. 806 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 5: The defense is stuck from the defense is stuck that 807 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 5: the schedule has been brutal, so that's part of it. 808 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 5: But the defense, it's a bottom five defense in every 809 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 5: possible category, and they got to be feeling like they 810 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 5: got a little unlucky. 811 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 2: And they're one and four and they've been outscored sixty 812 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: nine to thirty six last time. No, I know, I 813 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: just want to like I no, no, I'm not saying 814 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 2: like hey go everywhere, gouch, go buy tickets to the game, 815 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: but it's like they've got a picks and like, I 816 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 2: think there's effort there. I think what's gone is the 817 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 2: thought that they're the bottom of the league. 818 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: They are. 819 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: They could be a little bit frisky strong, they could 820 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 2: be feisty. Yeah, Chris, fine, frisky is not the word. 821 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: That's fine. But I think the story here is Joe 822 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: Burrow and the Bengals, and no, I think it's then 823 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: I think, you know, if we shook, I just want 824 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: to and they they didn't have Higgins in this game. Correct, correct, 825 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 2: you did not play, so you know they weren't even 826 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: a full strength of their ability to put up points. 827 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: That's that's a good sign. 828 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 7: Anything else, Nick, No, I mean if the Bengals are 829 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 7: like this for a you know, the next month, then 830 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 7: they're gonna be in the conversation. 831 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 13: The Cardinals are fun to watch, though they're fun watch. 832 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 4: The one game the Bengals, I mean, after all this, 833 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 4: there was their one game back in their. 834 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: Day in a division that we've said is maybe not 835 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: as ironclads as we thought. I believe, more than any 836 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: other team in the AFC North, right, that's the Ravens 837 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 2: are dumb. 838 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 4: That was dumb, So bad all right, idiots, shooky a 839 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 4: one and done for you today. 840 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your sign. 841 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 13: This is what we call a cameo long. 842 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, rest up, because we're gonna need you a big 843 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 4: time next week. It's gotta be a lot of shooky, 844 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 4: heavy left. 845 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 2: All that grunting that's pumping. I'm preparing for it, yes, sir, 846 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and when we get back, 847 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: we dive back into week five. It's disturbing. 848 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 4: All right, Oh, that's my favorite part of the show. 849 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: It's time now for the Sunday Drive, presented by the 850 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: first ever Toyota Grand Highlander. 851 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 4: Do you like going on a Sunday drive? 852 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: Bark? I mean I usually I drive to work and 853 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: then I'm here for fourteens, like the off season. Of 854 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 2: course I do. It depends to where. But yeah, of 855 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 2: course i'd like to. And I like a quaint mid 856 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 2: twentieth century thing to just go for a Sunday drive. Well, 857 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: I think back then it was like you are You're 858 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: one of the rare people that own a car. It's 859 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 2: a big deal. 860 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 4: Now it's like it was the mid twentieth century, Like, 861 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 4: how would I know that you got a big birthday 862 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 4: coming up? Buddy? 863 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 2: This It wasn't that I'm not turning eighty. I'm just 864 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 2: saying it's a big one. Yeah, I don't try not 865 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: to focus on that, but you're right, all right, let's 866 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 2: get to it. Across the sidewalk we go. 867 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 6: Rams have to get to the Eagles forty four for 868 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 6: a first time. Had the Eagles stop him and an 869 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 6: all practicality in the game stuff. 870 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 4: To get on the goal. 871 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 6: Then practicality Stufford poling full of football suffer takes the snap, 872 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 6: he's back here, comes to rest again. 873 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: They hit him hem then go it is Hassan with 874 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: it again. 875 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 2: Oh Hassan reddick your dirty dog. 876 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 4: Merril Reese with the call. 877 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 2: The big takedown of Matt Stafford put to bed any 878 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 2: thoughts the Rams could shock the defending conference champions, and 879 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 2: they score that road win twenty three to fourteen. 880 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 4: Over the Rams. 881 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 2: Another frisky team this year, but this is the Philadelphia Eagles. 882 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: Greg Hurts Jalen Hurts through for three hundred and three 883 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: yards in a touchdown. He rushed for seventy two and 884 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 2: another score and take care of business effort here by Philly. 885 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 4: I love this game by the Eagles. I love this team. 886 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 4: They're so good. 887 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 5: I thought it was so fitting watching that replay, seeing 888 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 5: Nick Sirianni sprint down the field to go congratulate Hassan 889 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 5: Reddick because Reddick's bin in the crosshairs of like, why 890 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 5: isn't Assan Reddick getting anything done in all weeks? Sianna 891 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 5: seeing he's getting close, He's getting close, it's gonna happen. 892 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 5: And then he gets back to back sacks on those plays. 893 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 5: You know what else that Siannie was talking about all week, 894 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 5: He said, we don't worry Dallas Goddter is going to 895 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 5: be part of this offense. He had under ninety yards 896 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 5: on the season going into this game. What happens here? 897 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 5: They feature him early. He's busting open those zones in 898 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 5: the rams coverage eight for one point seventeen in one. 899 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 5: Most teams go into games and they're just like, how 900 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 5: do we find a way to win? Like the Eagles 901 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 5: are like, how do we start pumping up the stars 902 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,479 Speaker 5: that we have that haven't quite gotten their tastelet lately. 903 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 5: I bet it'll be DeVonta Smith next week, because he's 904 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 5: been quiet and they were talking to him on the sideline. 905 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 5: I also think they get into these games and they 906 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 5: kind of just feel it out and they figure out 907 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 5: what do we need in this game? In this game 908 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 5: in the second half, they clamped down and they really 909 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 5: dominated with long drives on offense and a lot of 910 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 5: pressure on defense and made the Rams offense in the 911 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 5: second half look as bad as it's looked all year. 912 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 3: I one thing about them, because you know, it was 913 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 3: like the narrative, like what's wrong with their passing a game? 914 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 3: Whereas the explosive plays and so they use the ground 915 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 3: game to destroy people. And like in this game, midway 916 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 3: through the third quarter, they had eleven yards on the 917 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 3: ground by running backs and you're seeing Dallas Goddard exploited 918 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 3: out of nowhere. And I'm with you this the versatility 919 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 3: and like aj Brown, who is largely unstoppable, the Rams 920 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 3: hung around in this, but it's the Eagles whore just 921 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 3: like have so many ways to attack that it almost 922 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 3: is like you're happily picking on the opponent with whatever 923 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 3: player you want to choose. And it's like this week 924 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 3: it's a different cast of characters, and last week we 925 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 3: saw hurts on the ground a bunch more. 926 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't have a lot of questions 927 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 2: about the Eagles. Yeah, it seems unfair because they have 928 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 2: so much talent and they're just so well coached Dalen 929 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 2: Carter had two more sacks. It's the same building where 930 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 2: he won the national title in January, and you know 931 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: they they could have been Twenty three is not an 932 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: overwhelming offensive score, but they had drives that lasted seventeen plays, 933 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 2: fifteen plays, ten plays that led to nine points three 934 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 2: field goals. So GREGI a little better execution there. And 935 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 2: this game is maybe a forty burger or whatever. But 936 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 2: again with the Eagles, and this is what I was 937 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,919 Speaker 2: trying to say. I guess last week that like their 938 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: problems are like the rich people problem will live up 939 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 2: on the hill behind the gates, you know, like there 940 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 2: you need an intercom to get into the neighborhood. Is 941 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 2: the type of problems are dealing. 942 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, their problem is like suddenly Jason Kelsey's exploding on 943 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 3: the sideline because it's a fight that they're very productive, 944 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 3: but he's upset about I guess the. 945 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 2: Calls coming in. We just did that for his podcast. 946 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 2: Well know that was he fifty percent chance. He just 947 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 2: did that for them to have something to talk. I 948 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 2: don't doubt that at this point. Do you think he 949 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: cares about the date of the Sunday job. 950 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 5: Like the Jags, I think their best two weeks of 951 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 5: the season though, are their last two, so they're getting 952 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 5: better as they go. And Jalen hurts that whole discussion, 953 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 5: and I was saying it too, that he was struggling 954 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 5: relatively inside the bucket. That's over too, because he has 955 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 5: played beautifully these last two weeks. He's played as well 956 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 5: as any quarterback in the league the last two weeks. 957 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 5: And they actually did make a point today to send 958 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 5: him on some design runs early and it was very 959 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 5: key early that he was picking up first downs with 960 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 5: the legs and that was Jalen Carter. Sex are just 961 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 5: so fast and they just they killed the Rams in 962 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 5: the second half. They had five possessions, they had under 963 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 5: one hundred yards. They were just punting, punting, punting, like 964 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,439 Speaker 5: turning it over on downs and quick drives. I haven't 965 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 5: seen the Rams offense look that bad in the second half. 966 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 5: First half, they looked like they always looked, and Cooper 967 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 5: Cup did return to. 968 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 2: The heavy look. 969 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 5: He looked like Cooper Cup eight for one eighteen. I 970 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 5: think he had almost sixty yards on five catches in 971 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 5: the first drive alone. 972 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 2: Looked like he was gonna finish with like eighteen catchs. 973 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 5: Right, and I don't think he ran out of gas 974 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 5: because he made some plays late. I don't know if 975 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 5: Stafford's injury affect him because he had some great throws 976 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 5: in this game. But he did miss four or five 977 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 5: that I haven't seen him miss this year that were 978 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 5: throws that were there. Uh, and so that's something to watch. 979 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 5: But Pukakua still is demand seven for seventy one and one. 980 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 5: I'm not I don't feel any guy for targets there 981 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 5: on up Phoko, Yeah, like gonna still got eleven him, 982 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 5: him and Cup dominated with twenty three of the targets. 983 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 2: I think you know two to two is not gonna 984 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 2: get as much sign anymore. It was nice while it 985 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: lasted anything else on this game, Gregy, No, I just 986 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 2: like how fired up. 987 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 5: Though Sean McVay is afterwards like he really believes in 988 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 5: this team. He's saying like, we're not we're not going down. 989 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 5: Like I think it's a frisky team. 990 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 4: They're not. They're not ready. Not many teams are gonna 991 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 4: be ready for this Eagles team. 992 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 2: No Eagles get the Jets next week. They're five and oh. 993 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 2: And that was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's 994 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 2: go places. Learn more at Toyota dot com slash Grand Highlander. 995 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 2: All right, let us head to a town that's Atlanta. 996 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 2: Like if you're like plugged in pennable hole, McCulla will snap. 997 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 4: They makes it Atlantas three and two snap spot. 998 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 2: Flag down, kick is away. 999 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 1: It is perfect. 1000 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got a flag. Baby, I'll mess with 1001 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 4: my highlight with flags. 1002 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: I think Houston Texans were off side. I stupid. 1003 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 4: There were two fouls on the play, both by the. 1004 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 2: Defense offside to mess with my highlight running into the 1005 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 2: kicker quiet number twenty five. 1006 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 4: This cendently is also declined. The field goal is good. 1007 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 4: The game is over. I can drive, I said, okay. 1008 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 4: I like when they say the game is over. It 1009 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 4: always feels good. 1010 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 2: Like the the reflics to vamp there a little bit 1011 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: with that giving us all this info, how about just 1012 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 2: come on and be like both against Atlanta, both against 1013 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: uh Houston. 1014 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 4: Game over. Yeah, that's good, that's good. We don't we 1015 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 4: don't need it. 1016 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm with you. 1017 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 4: Put it in the NFL. 1018 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 2: Jesus, put it in the box, an official box score, 1019 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,959 Speaker 2: that data, those data points. Let the celebration begin. 1020 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 4: Damn it. 1021 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 2: It's a fair argument. West Durham with the call w ZGC, 1022 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 2: good call. Desmond Ritter passed and ran for touchdowns, a 1023 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 2: big all few to all the bozo's calling for his benching, 1024 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 2: and young Waiku kicked a thirty seven yard field goals 1025 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: time expired. Falcons snap a two game losing streak. They 1026 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 2: beat the upstart Texans twenty one to nineteen. Greg Ritta 1027 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 2: he needed this game, as did Arthur Smith, the head coach. 1028 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 2: I was facing mounting criticism for sticking with his QB one. 1029 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, great Desmond Ridder game. It should go without saying. 1030 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 5: This is the best game of Desmond Rider great career, 1031 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 5: like legitimately great. I haven't seen it for him. For him, yeah, 1032 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 5: I mean he went for three twenty nine and a touchdown. 1033 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 5: I think the receivers made plays for him, but he 1034 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 5: didn't make any bad decisions. There weren't any groners that 1035 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 5: he got away with. They were the better team. They 1036 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 5: had four hundred and forty seven yards of offense. I mean, 1037 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 5: this was the vision, This was Arthur Smith's vision. Ritter 1038 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 5: like distributing, not messing up Kyle Pitts, make some nice catches, 1039 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 5: leading the team and receiving Kyle Pitt seven for eighty seven. 1040 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 5: Drake London making might hallucinating. Yes, this happened, Uh, Drake, 1041 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 5: you've been asking for. Drake London making a contested catch 1042 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,720 Speaker 5: that was one of the best catches I've seen this season, 1043 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 5: thirty two yards while his helmet was being ripped off 1044 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 5: at a very key moment of the game. 1045 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 4: Bijon making people. 1046 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 2: Got four carries than Lger Right, No, that all the 1047 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 2: way there, but he didn't get a receiving. 1048 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 4: Are we gonna Are we gonna give up that dream yet? 1049 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 4: Can we please? Can we please stop that? 1050 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 2: Arthur? 1051 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 5: He did already make a one handed catch on a 1052 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 5: touchdown where it was here where he faked it behind 1053 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 5: the back or something. 1054 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:38,919 Speaker 4: So that was the vision. 1055 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 5: Plus a defense that is much more together and complete 1056 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 5: than it was a year ago, and they get a 1057 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 5: win over a team that's maybe a year behind them 1058 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 5: in terms of their development. 1059 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting, is like we when we preview this, 1060 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 3: and I think when everyone looked at it's like, oh, well, 1061 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 3: by many metrics, Houston is the worst run defense in 1062 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 3: the league, and Atlanta wants to go pound the ball 1063 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 3: against you and probably run the ball. They did for 1064 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 3: thirty six times for two point seven yards for carry. 1065 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 3: So it's like they needed Ridder to make these plays 1066 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 3: and I find them unpredictable because it's like, I don't 1067 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 3: I don't think having Desmond Ridder in general throw the 1068 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 3: ball thirty seven times is a great concept. 1069 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 2: You get today that helps, but it's like that's I don't. 1070 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 2: It feels like not hit like Arthur Smith's vision in 1071 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 2: a way. Well, I guess against what he he doesn't 1072 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 2: seem to want to give Kyle Pitts and Drake London 1073 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 2: like huge amounts of targets, and today. 1074 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 5: It just I think teams are just loading up to 1075 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 5: stop them so much that it's forcing their hand. And 1076 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 5: today he actually delivered, but it wasn't even great. Like 1077 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 5: I'm thinking of a lot of these catches and they're great, 1078 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 5: they're nice catches. He doesn't like put it right on you, 1079 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 5: like Pitt's had a nice jumping catch London John Whu. 1080 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 5: Smith is back alive. But that's what they're gonna need 1081 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 5: to make this thing work. 1082 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 2: Take me through the end of this game, because I 1083 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 2: was more just seeing it in the scroll and it 1084 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 2: and Houston has the lead laid here. How does it 1085 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 2: all play? Out down the stretch. Is this you know, 1086 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 2: was this a dramatic comeback drive or great play? 1087 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1088 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, Houston didn't have a touchdown until 1089 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 5: you know what, two minutes left in the game. But 1090 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 5: it was twelve seven entering the fourth quarter, and Atlanta 1091 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 5: just kept going on these drives, drive after drive, and 1092 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 5: they lost two fumbles. They managed to win this game 1093 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 5: despite having two turnovers. Neither was Ritter, and they go 1094 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 5: on these long field goal drives and then TJ Stroud 1095 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 5: my guy, it's not my guy, it's everyone's guy. 1096 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 4: Everyone's enjoying watching him play. 1097 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 5: Gets the ball, it's down six with seven minutes to go, 1098 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 5: and just coolly goes down the field, making the right raids. 1099 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 5: They get the running game going. He gets the touchdown 1100 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 5: to go up, setting up Ridder with about one forty 1101 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 5: nine to go. They need a field goal, and they 1102 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 5: made it look easy, like they had too much, Like 1103 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 5: they got in field goal position with about forty five 1104 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 5: seconds to go. Ridder makes a couple nice throws to 1105 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 5: pretty open receivers. Houston's defense was not impressive in this game, 1106 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 5: but you got to give Ridder in the play callers 1107 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 5: credit and and some of these were ridder runs too 1108 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 5: on that last drive where like he made all the 1109 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 5: right moves and London got open against the secondary. That 1110 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 5: healthier now too for Houston. So I was surprised to 1111 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 5: see the Falcons put it on Houston like this. 1112 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 2: And that's a test. That's a test for Dimigo Ryans' defense. 1113 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 2: You have a one point lead with one forty nine 1114 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 2: to play, Maybe they get to the point, Maybe they're 1115 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 2: gonna need some more talent. Maybe the scheme will get 1116 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 2: there eventually, we'll they'll get that stop to win the game. 1117 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 2: But no, no, Ryan's a defensive guy. 1118 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 5: That's that hurts, right, and they they couldn't really stop 1119 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 5: them all day other than those two forced fumbles. I 1120 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 5: think it was Bijon did have one of the fumbles. 1121 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 5: Maybe that's why in places and John new Smith had another. 1122 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 5: But Rider had on dropbacks nine point two yards per 1123 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 5: play nine point two. 1124 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 2: They had four and forty seven yards. 1125 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,439 Speaker 5: It was a no joke effort. And I think Ryan 1126 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 5: Nielsen and his outrageous mustache. I don't know if you 1127 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 5: guys have seen this thing. He's one of the twirly ones. No, 1128 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 5: it's like cattlefish hunter. Yeah, it's just so bushy and wide. 1129 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 5: It makes Arthur Smith almost look feminine. 1130 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 4: I mean, like Gene Siegel time. 1131 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 5: I wish I would have asked for a picture. But 1132 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 5: he's got this defense playing well like Jesse Bates and A. J. 1133 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 5: Trell is a real deal duo. Like their linebackers are 1134 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 5: good Klays. Campbell got hurt in this game, but otherwise 1135 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 5: Campbell and Jarrett like they were real difference. They're not great, 1136 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 5: but they're just average at very worst. 1137 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,399 Speaker 2: Shall it from n Today Show? 1138 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 4: Is it a Geen Shallotte? 1139 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 2: Now, it's not a shadow that I don't know. 1140 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 4: You don't know that you don't know. 1141 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,479 Speaker 2: You don't I know who Geno, I remember who Jeens? 1142 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 4: You know? 1143 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 2: Shall I know Shallotte? 1144 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 5: My mom watched the Today Show on Reviewer on like 1145 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 5: a three inch screen one of. 1146 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 4: The remember like the people the Kitchen TV used to 1147 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 4: have three inch kitchen TV radio. 1148 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, you like exactly exactly like let's I don't need it. 1149 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 3: We had The Today's Show on every single every single 1150 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 3: weekday in our house hours at a time, and Jean 1151 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 3: Shallott was a large part of my shelter. 1152 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 2: That mustag Geane clean it up? Like I know it's 1153 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 2: your thing, but his mustache took all pre inches up. 1154 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 2: It was. It was insane. Uh, all right, good job. 1155 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 2: Let's see if you go string it together and make 1156 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 2: the Falcons truly interesting. That's all just need a couple 1157 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 2: of weeks in. He doesn't need to be great. They 1158 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 2: do need to. We got to get rid of this 1159 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 2: time share in the backfield. 1160 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 4: But we'll get to that. I mean, I don't know. 1161 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 4: It's just you don't need to have one. 1162 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,439 Speaker 2: Guys averaging three and a half yards per carry behind 1163 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 2: the same offensive line, but you want the other guys 1164 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 2: averaging five and a half. Maybe give it to the guy, 1165 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 2: that guy from a year ago into the very productive 1166 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 2: this year. And can I say why? He just gets 1167 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,280 Speaker 2: hotter and hotter physically. 1168 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 4: Officially h The game goes along. 1169 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 2: And so if you're gonna interrupt Tyler al Giles, if 1170 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 2: you're gonna give some of the ball to someone else, 1171 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 2: we got a problem. You know that that mustache and 1172 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 2: now I'm seeing it. 1173 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 4: Who is that? 1174 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 2: That's Ryan Nielsen there? Defense that's getting a little on. 1175 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 2: Remember when Jordan grew the mustache. That's a little too closet. 1176 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 5: It's kind of yeah, it's not it, No, it's not 1177 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 5: a mustache like that because theirs are like four inches long. 1178 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 4: I mean he could break. He could break as. 1179 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 2: An European, a little bit a little tyrant part of 1180 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 2: a part of Europe. 1181 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 4: Right. 1182 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,879 Speaker 5: We don't need it, we don't. We don't need any 1183 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 5: echo effect. I think it's just that's a bad angle 1184 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 5: or something doesn't look like that. I'm just saying it 1185 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 5: was a bad look for Michael Jordan. Yeah it was 1186 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 5: Jean Shallot it would be better, all right, let's go. 1187 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,399 Speaker 5: I mean, how did Jean shout even eat? They don't 1188 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 5: ever think about that. 1189 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1190 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of things that you'd question how 1191 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 3: well he did with the setup he had going on. 1192 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 2: Hello Larry, all right we do Lucas Oil stadium, yiks 1193 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,800 Speaker 2: hannahell between. 1194 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 4: The ashbarks, lou receivers, the port of the like size. 1195 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 4: You knew what you were doing. 1196 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 2: Wating on a shot. 1197 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: That's do he takes a pelt, hot packs the throat 1198 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 1: in the pocket. 1199 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 2: I have a theory that I can't share on the show. 1200 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 4: The intercepted by dying apples the fifty yard line, and that's. 1201 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 12: Julia Blackman put. 1202 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,040 Speaker 1: The game ceiling interception. 1203 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 5: Ten seconds to goal. 1204 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 4: Colts are gonna win. 1205 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 14: An interception by the Colts defense at the fifty yard 1206 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 14: line in the streak will die Today it's the Tennessee Titans. 1207 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:17,720 Speaker 2: Oh, those frisky Indianapolis Colts. Julian Blackman snagged the passer 1208 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 2: Miyan Tannehill, an interception that sealed the twenty three sixteen 1209 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 2: win over the rival Titans. 1210 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 4: I'm not sure what the streak was. What was it? 1211 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 5: How many they had lost seven straight home games? Oh, 1212 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 5: I think that's what he's. 1213 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,760 Speaker 2: Those ones hurt the most, five straight losses to the opponent. 1214 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 4: Okay, it's at two streaks. 1215 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 2: Oh well, goodbye to those streaks. A victory tempered, unfortunately 1216 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 2: by yet another injury for my guy, Anthony Richardson. More 1217 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 2: on that later, Mark. He's your guy now, Okay, he's mine. 1218 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 2: You see NFL Plus on Thursday. Well, atn we did 1219 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 2: a rookie redraft. You drafted him second overall. Thick my guy. 1220 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 2: But maybe I'm not celebrating that. Today it's going great. 1221 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,879 Speaker 2: My guy is stacking up the sick days early here, Mark. 1222 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 2: This game was hyped up as the return of the 1223 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 2: newly paid Jonathan Taylor, who got a three year forty 1224 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 2: two million dollar extension that included I believe to twenty 1225 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 2: six million guaranteed. However, Zach Moss all the show as 1226 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 2: his understudy. Zack Moss looked great Taylor. Had Taylor came in, 1227 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 2: he didn't see he barely played six carries eighteen yards. 1228 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's undaxtendable. Makes sense. 1229 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 3: They'll heat him up. But like, I don't know, I 1230 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 3: don't know why I took I don't know. Now you 1231 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 3: pay him after all this time. But Zach Moss, who 1232 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 3: you know, had two hundred and eighty yards. 1233 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 2: You know that in this game mark that organization is 1234 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 2: known to surprise you with they do they come up, 1235 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,439 Speaker 2: come out of the blue. 1236 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it made sense to pay him, don't 1237 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 4: we think? Right? 1238 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 2: But it's just that organization has a way about, you know, 1239 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 2: zigging and zagging in ways that are unpredicted. It was 1240 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,359 Speaker 2: the way it unfurled, like was why did your why 1241 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,240 Speaker 2: did your whole philosophical approach to Jonathan Taylor? 1242 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 5: Suddenly I have a theory, but yeah, not going to 1243 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 5: share it. I have a but you know what it is, 1244 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 5: I have another I have a theory that I will share. 1245 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 5: It's more just well, they just waited for the boss 1246 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 5: to calm down. You know, they wanted to do this 1247 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 5: the whole time. Yeah, it's just like Larry, let's just 1248 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 5: maybe after a month he'll he'll calm down and we 1249 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 5: can do what we want. 1250 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 4: Right, Right, it's one or the other. 1251 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 2: Right, it's either the boss demanded it to happen, or 1252 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 2: the boss wasn't paying attention or didn't care anymore. It's 1253 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 2: like one of those things. Well, you snuck it by him. 1254 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 3: I don't I don't know how twenty six million to 1255 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,319 Speaker 3: gets snuck by someone, but he's of a different pay 1256 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 3: class than we are. I mean, this was a game 1257 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 3: where I was like, I kind of like Tennessee's chances potentially, 1258 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 3: You've got this pretty gnarly run defense, and you've been 1259 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 3: running the ball like last week. They ran the ball 1260 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 3: real well, Tennessee. I mean, Jarrick Henry forty three yards 1261 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 3: on thirteen carries, couldn't get going. You give him one 1262 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 3: hundred and ninety three yards. Zach Moss played the game 1263 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 3: of his life. I just think that his performance this 1264 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,919 Speaker 3: season has been huge because I think he was someone 1265 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,399 Speaker 3: we would have just written off a month ago. 1266 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 2: In general, Oh, here's the thing. 1267 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson goes down and the diagnosis from the pell 1268 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 3: Raiser is that he's got an ac joint sprain in 1269 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:07,800 Speaker 3: his throwing shoulder. 1270 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 2: MRI to Colm x Rayser negative. I thought the season 1271 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 2: was over when it happened. 1272 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:13,359 Speaker 4: We'll see. 1273 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,319 Speaker 2: But it's like the way he was walking, because we're 1274 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 2: always just like trying to look like when you say 1275 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 2: you see the helmet slam. I think it's like body 1276 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 2: he was telling you something. 1277 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 3: He was just like it was just hat there was 1278 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 3: maybe a broken collar bone was just hanging off his body, 1279 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 3: his arm. 1280 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 4: There. 1281 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Richardson that makes me nervous because 1282 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 2: obviously the ability to stay on the field, that's a 1283 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 2: skill set, you know. And and like you, this is 1284 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 2: now three separate injuries. There was a lower body injury 1285 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 2: in week one, there was a head injury in week three, 1286 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 2: I believe, and now we have a shoulder injury. 1287 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 4: It wasn't it. He only finished one game. He's played four, 1288 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 4: he's finished one. 1289 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 2: Mark. Did that seem like an especially vicious hit to you? 1290 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 2: That's the thing I think, Yeah, I think it's like, 1291 00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it gets me nervous. Is like it's one thing, 1292 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 2: and to get absolutely your clock clean. But it's and 1293 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 2: I didn't follow the college enough to know if this 1294 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 2: was we didn't just Iron have many starts in college, 1295 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 2: too big cycle. I would say this, like if it 1296 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 2: was like the calf thing with Burrow and it's like 1297 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 2: he keeps reaggravating, It's like, all right, well that's it's 1298 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 2: different types of injuries and the body's breaking down in 1299 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 2: different types of ways. They're really lucky because this is 1300 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 2: a watchable, enjoyable team. They're lucky to have some of 1301 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 2: these teams like the there's no one behind Burrow. That's 1302 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 2: why Burrow's playing like they have the Bills. The Bengals 1303 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 2: had these shoddy backup situations. You've got Gardner Minshew, who 1304 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 2: in two relief appearances has thrown for three hundred and 1305 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 2: twenty six yards and a touchdown and gone thirty for 1306 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 2: thirty seven. It's a luxury, yeah, and he like he 1307 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 2: is a fringe starter and he it's not. 1308 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 3: He's such a different player than Richardson obviously, but with 1309 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 3: psychin running the show, you kind of trust that, like 1310 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 3: when Minshew's in there, that they're gonna do things really well. 1311 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 3: Still and There were a couple things about Minshew today 1312 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 3: that I just thought showed me who he is. Like 1313 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 3: they were up twenty to sixteen outside the two minute 1314 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 3: warning and he had a ten yard strike to Alec Pierce, 1315 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 3: who's played a little bit better over these last couple 1316 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 3: of weeks, and Minshew got absolutely rocked on the play 1317 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 3: and he knew it, he knew he was gonna and 1318 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 3: he just did the thing where you're like, I like 1319 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 3: this guy because he stood in the pocket and delivered 1320 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 3: the ball and was I mean, it was like, are 1321 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 3: we gonna lose him too? Because he took the kind 1322 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 3: of hit that does knock a quarterback out. I'll say 1323 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 3: one thing flip side that this like Colts defense. I 1324 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 3: feel like it's DeForest Buckner Zaire Franklin. Today was insane 1325 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 3: and like this defensive front seems to create punishment and 1326 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 3: do something special week after week, and today they handled 1327 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 3: Derek Henry, who last week looked like he was completely reborn. 1328 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 3: Ryan Tannell had a pass or two of his own 1329 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 3: where he does the Ryan Tannehill thing where he got 1330 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 3: absolutely leveled unfurling a shot down field. I always think 1331 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 3: he's courageous and DeAndre Hopkins, who you know, we've sort 1332 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 3: of been waiting for this game. 1333 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 2: Eight catches, one hundred and forty yards, totally unstoppable. 1334 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 3: This was the one where it's like, I think he 1335 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 3: can be I'm not so concerned about their wide receiver 1336 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 3: group in general, because he he looked like the old 1337 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 3: under here. 1338 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 2: There was also a Derek Henry halfback option played the 1339 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 2: goal line where he just missed Hopkins getting his second 1340 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 2: foot down that would have been a touchdown on top 1341 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 2: of it. So yeah, he's not the same nuke anymore, 1342 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 2: but he's definitely an option. 1343 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 4: This is not a Julio Jones situation in Tennessee now, 1344 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 4: I mean this is a throwback type of game. 1345 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 5: He got Julian Blackman, who what three years ago Wes 1346 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 5: was talking about on this podcast, just love and like 1347 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 5: looking like maybe a defensive rookie of the Year type 1348 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 5: of guy and has kind of been in the wilderness 1349 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 5: making a big play and then them, you know, be 1350 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 5: able to run the ball, them stuffing Henry that the 1351 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 5: key sequence was that they had a fourth down in 1352 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. The Titans did fourth and one on 1353 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 5: the Colts five, they stop it and then they basically 1354 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 5: kill the rest of the game on a seven minute 1355 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,959 Speaker 5: field goal drive. There was only seven possessions in these games. 1356 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 5: I mean after Minshew came over, they were pretty spotless 1357 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 5: with these long drives. Like Titans on paper have a 1358 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 5: decent defense. They had one putt in this game, and 1359 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 5: they didn't have a turnover, right, and Titans fans that 1360 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 5: the Colts rather only had one punt. 1361 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 2: Titans fans are going to want to make sure we 1362 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 2: mentioned this that that that final field goal drive was 1363 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 2: sustained on a pass interference penalty on Christian Fulton, where 1364 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 2: I thought it was a bad call. He thought it 1365 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,479 Speaker 2: was a bad call. In fact, Christian Fulton said after 1366 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 2: the game, I thought it was a bad call. It's 1367 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 2: hard when you got to play against the refs and 1368 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 2: the wide receivers. But that's the life of a dB. 1369 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 2: That was on third and twelve in the fourth quarter. 1370 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 2: He got tangled up with Michael Pittman. There was some 1371 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 2: contact and that allowed that drive to continue and it 1372 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 2: took a lot of time off the clock and essentially 1373 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 2: ended the game. 1374 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 4: It's tough. You see those calls every week. 1375 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 2: Obviously, I was pitching and moaning about what happened to 1376 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 2: the Jets against the Chiefs last week. I just don't 1377 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 2: like ticky tack, no defensive holding or PI calls in 1378 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 2: the final minutes of games, unless it's something where you 1379 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 2: got to take the laundry out. Look at the Super Bowl, 1380 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 2: what happened to the Eagles against. 1381 01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,439 Speaker 3: The game that was a carbon copy of the Jets 1382 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 3: thing to somebody. And it seems to be dotted to 1383 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 3: cross games on a weekly basis, and you know, we're 1384 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 3: kind of just stuck with the result. 1385 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 5: Curious about the stay in power of these two teams. 1386 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 5: So we'll see like three and two Colts are three 1387 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 5: and two. It's just they're a real team. 1388 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 3: It's such a it's it's disappointing on Richardson because, like 1389 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 3: we said, he is a small sample size in college. 1390 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 4: Well now it's a concern. 1391 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 3: Well now it's like you now, he's only he's gonna 1392 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 3: enter year two with only a very limited amount of Well, 1393 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 3: I'll snap. 1394 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 5: I don't think they're thinking it, you know, by the 1395 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 5: way the reporting is, I don't think they're thinking it's 1396 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 5: season ending, no or anything. 1397 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 2: I was saying that's how it looked at the time. 1398 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 2: The reporting out there rap sheet said that it's an 1399 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 2: ac joint sprain, which is the same thing that Derek 1400 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 2: Carr didn't miss any time with and hopefully it's one 1401 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 2: of those situations. But Derek Carr looked like he was 1402 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 2: in a lot of pain when that happened on the Saints. 1403 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 2: Richardson looked like a guy that was like, yeah, i'll 1404 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 2: see in two months, so we'll see, like how how 1405 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 2: it progresses and how careful they are with him, because yeah, 1406 01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 2: this has gotten to the point now where it's a 1407 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 2: major concerned for this team and there's an irony to 1408 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 2: it because we've talked about no one looks more impressive 1409 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 2: physically like to ever play the quarterback position than Anthony Richardson, 1410 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 2: and yet that body is refusing to cooperate. 1411 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 3: One thing I think you have, though, is a it's early, 1412 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 3: but a special coach and Stike and I just there's 1413 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 3: something about this offense, the way it's organized, and they've 1414 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 3: been through a lot and they continue to you. 1415 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 2: Know what else is special? 1416 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel and that offense in Miami correct transition. 1417 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 2: Out to the twenty four yard line in Golden Ocean, 1418 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 2: they give it to Hpe down the sidelight. Nobody's gonna 1419 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 2: get you. 1420 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 4: You don't touch down Miami what great speed. On top 1421 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 4: of that, safety takes a bad ankle on it. I 1422 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 4: think he forgot who he was chasing and trying to tackle. 1423 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 2: What is happening in Miami? 1424 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 4: But what's going on? Old time screams football. I just 1425 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 4: watched the. 1426 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Beckham documentary on Netflix. David Beckham, the footballer 1427 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 2: from England and he just bought a Miami football team 1428 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 2: for MLS. Pink nets. We're just we're in a whole 1429 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 2: other world down there, so it isn't We've went out 1430 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 2: sepple down there. A lot of great, strange things occurred, 1431 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 2: and I. 1432 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 4: Like the color pink great. Don't don't twist it weird that. 1433 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 2: You thought I was Greg I'm a feminist. How dare 1434 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 2: you call out the pink net. I'm just saying things 1435 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 2: are a little different. 1436 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 5: Down I'm troubled that that's where you think I was 1437 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 5: thinking about. I was thinking about the Beckham he bought 1438 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 5: a team a while ago. You know, give give the 1439 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 5: give the MLS some props. 1440 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 2: That was a good doc though. Check it out. Everybody 1441 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 2: really feel good about the staying power of the posh spice. 1442 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 2: Beckham marriage like a legitimately healthy relationship. Yeah, it seems 1443 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 2: to be good. 1444 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 4: Take there by me. 1445 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to it. Devan a Chains delivered 1446 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 2: once again, zipping through that hole, pay dirt seventy six yards, 1447 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 2: Dolphins cruise thirty one sixteen over the wait for it, 1448 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 2: Moribun New York Giants Mark. Some teams have shown how 1449 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 2: the Dolphins can be slowed, but this version of Big Blue, 1450 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 2: they're not one of those teams. 1451 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 3: No, they had no chance, And I think part of 1452 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 3: it is you got to You gotta give your defense 1453 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 3: a chance by producing on offense and it you know, 1454 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 3: they had eleven sacks on Monday night. 1455 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 2: Less than a week later, they gave it. The Giants 1456 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:26,720 Speaker 2: gave up seven today. 1457 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 3: This is an offensive line that has drafted five linemen 1458 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 3: in the first three rounds since twenty twenty, more than 1459 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 3: anyone league wide, and it does not show they are. 1460 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 2: A raging, boiling mess. Daniel Jones left with a neck 1461 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 2: injury at the end, and it was like, you're kind 1462 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 2: of just wait how long until Daniel Jones is hurt 1463 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 2: because he's getting killed back there TBD on where will 1464 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 2: be with this. 1465 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 4: Getting an MRI? 1466 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 2: I just I mean, I don't know, and then they 1467 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 2: have Tyrod Taylor in there and he's getting killed, and 1468 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 2: it's like this is just not sustainable. And it's like 1469 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 2: you you can blame Brian Dable play calling all this 1470 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 2: other stuff. It's like you can't function, but in general, 1471 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 2: like you can't function when you're watching Miami go up 1472 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 2: and down the field. 1473 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 3: I mean, they're amount, they're huge plays. So today they 1474 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 3: fully amassed after this start of the season and sixty 1475 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 3: eight yards the most by any team through five weeks 1476 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 3: of the season, and at meal history, it was the 1477 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 3: greatest show on turf the two thousand rams that were 1478 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 3: second in that category. And it's real and it's legit, 1479 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 3: and I know what happened against Buffalo, but it's like 1480 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 3: you're not going to take away the speed and the 1481 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 3: big plays. They have seven touchdowns seven touchdown drives this 1482 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 3: season of less than one minute again leads the league. Obviously, 1483 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 3: like they have the seven fastest speeds recorded. We know 1484 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 3: that it was five a couple weeks ago. Now it's seven. 1485 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 7: Dan. 1486 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 2: I know this is not news to you because people 1487 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,120 Speaker 2: were tweeting you left and right. But you asked for 1488 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 2: this tweet. 1489 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 4: You asked for it. 1490 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 2: I did. 1491 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 3: You wanted a player and not a defender or someone 1492 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 3: else but a ball carrier to run twenty two miles 1493 01:06:59,120 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 3: an hour. 1494 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 2: Fight tweet, Let's fly it up. 1495 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 4: We have that X. 1496 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 2: I mean, doesn't make sense. Let's see Marcel Louis Shasquez. 1497 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 2: Great name, Tyreek kill clearly toy blah blah blah blah. 1498 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 2: He proceeds to hit twenty two point zero one miles 1499 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 2: per hour on that sixty eight yard catch and run. 1500 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 2: He did it, so it wasn't even the a chain score. 1501 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 2: It was Tyreek's catch and run twenty two with the 1502 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 2: ball with the ball, so that was a sixty four 1503 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 2: yard Yet back to me, when you have the ball 1504 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 2: behind the line of and then you get through your demand, 1505 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 2: then you break into your old hands. We'll cease at 1506 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 2: this point because they you it was a very specific Honestly, 1507 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 2: congratulations because hashtag twenty two is something I've been waiting for. Well, 1508 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 2: you got it, and apparently were he moster. Again, I 1509 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 2: did get a lot of tweets about this. Against the 1510 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 2: Jets a few years ago hit twenty three, So now 1511 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 2: it's like, hey, if that was already done like multiple 1512 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:53,920 Speaker 2: years ago. 1513 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,280 Speaker 4: I don't care about twenty two. Get me another twenty. Well, 1514 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 4: they're lucky Moster didn't do it today. 1515 01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 3: I mean, he'll had another sixty nine yard time down 1516 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 3: a Chan had that seventy six yards like eight Chan 1517 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 3: right now, you didn't even play the first week. Four 1518 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty yards off of thirty eight carries. This 1519 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 3: is a This isn't like some This isn't some freak 1520 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 3: wide receiver that had three carries. He's I think like 1521 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 3: twenty five more people have more carries in him, but 1522 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 3: he has four hundred and sixty yards. 1523 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 2: He's averaging twelve point one yards per carry. 1524 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 3: It's crazy, and I do think Mike McDaniel, they keept 1525 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 3: asking about these stats in the in the post game. 1526 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 2: Here's what you had to. 1527 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 15: Say, mission accomplished. We had the whole time, the whole offseason. 1528 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,679 Speaker 15: All that was our goal was output after five games. 1529 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it speaks to what what. 1530 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 15: The what the group is capable of. 1531 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,560 Speaker 4: But you need that expression. 1532 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,679 Speaker 15: And dead you're You're honored to be in the same 1533 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,559 Speaker 15: breath for any statistical. 1534 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's by the way, it's not not a record, okay, 1535 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 5: it's it's a stat it's not a record, it's a wow. 1536 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 5: They broke the record for most yards in a after 1537 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 5: five games, Like, that's not a record. 1538 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 4: That's a stack stop. 1539 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,880 Speaker 2: It's such allude about them. 1540 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 4: I've seen this too, Like they actually made a big 1541 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 4: deal about it. 1542 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 2: You hate all early season thing. 1543 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, no no, because you could 1544 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,519 Speaker 5: you could say, like, it's not a stat talk it's 1545 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 5: it's not a thing of like he you did this, 1546 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,639 Speaker 5: this is the most after week six, that's a record. 1547 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 2: No, it's just a stat after week six. Okay, So 1548 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 2: I think it's it's it's not like a measuring stick. 1549 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:40,320 Speaker 2: People explos It is not like. 1550 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 5: Literally anyone in the world, including the Rams wherever, you know, 1551 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 5: conscious of that. 1552 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,640 Speaker 4: Before this week they almost made a big deal out 1553 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 4: of the c. J. 1554 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 5: Stroud, like you know, he broke the rookie interception list 1555 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 5: streak and even that like they said and in this 1556 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 5: in the in the record is broken and it was 1557 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 5: literally on a. 1558 01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 4: Throw out of it on record. 1559 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 2: Either got a real yes, who the hell do you 1560 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 2: think you are? Not a record that that that's a 1561 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 2: good question. Can I mention one quick thing their records 1562 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 2: to me? I think it's it's a fair thing to 1563 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 2: point out. Would you rather they don't point it out 1564 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:16,800 Speaker 2: at all? 1565 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,200 Speaker 5: Absolutely point out, Just don't use the word does, don't 1566 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 5: use the word record. 1567 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 3: All right, Well, at this point after five weeks, they 1568 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,120 Speaker 3: metrically sit in a certain position compared to teams superior 1569 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 3: in the game. 1570 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 5: That way, you said it that way, you could just 1571 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 5: say they have the most yards in history, and I 1572 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,440 Speaker 5: will say that's what he said, mister brownie. 1573 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 2: You are no fun at all. I can't say it. 1574 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,880 Speaker 2: I'm notchoing Mike McDaniel here. I think you are to 1575 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 2: some degree. 1576 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 3: I will say, like Tua had a little bit of 1577 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 3: trouble in this game real quick, like h Hand did 1578 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 3: fumble in this but then they got reel down, they 1579 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 3: got down to close to the goal line and there 1580 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 3: was one hundred and two yard pick six by Jason 1581 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 3: Pennock and the Giants, and they also had another bad pick. 1582 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 2: It doesn't that's not The Giants before this game had 1583 01:10:58,560 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 2: not did not have one takeaway. 1584 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 3: I stink they are You want to talk about metrics 1585 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 3: through four or five weeks, Greg, you know they got 1586 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 3: he doesn't. 1587 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,720 Speaker 4: I know, Well, if you did, I like to talk 1588 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 4: about it. 1589 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 2: Just He's like oh, we're talking about the giant setting 1590 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:12,560 Speaker 2: records for futility. 1591 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 4: I'm all into it. Let's hear them get that haystacks. 1592 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 5: You know, get that all right, Like I can't wait 1593 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,559 Speaker 5: till you break the record for sacks like between weeks 1594 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,560 Speaker 5: three and five. That's that's what I mean. It's like, 1595 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,120 Speaker 5: it's not a record. That was mc dato's whole response. 1596 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, thanks, you know on my. 1597 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 2: Uh uh New York New Yorker's chain. Got more than 1598 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 2: a couple buddies that are die hard fans. They're still 1599 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 2: watching these games. No got the old I'm not watching, yeah, 1600 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 2: because it's like it's got tough fun. That's how quickly 1601 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 2: and how bad it's gotten. 1602 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 5: They might be the worst team in the in the NFL, 1603 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,960 Speaker 5: But there's there's another option there. 1604 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 4: I was gotta say they're they're a long time. 1605 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 2: I have another team I might bring up. They could 1606 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 2: potentially there's a reason they got the the the coveted 1607 01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 2: title in reverse of first to be called moribund on 1608 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 2: ATM because it's been that bad a start. They've been 1609 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 2: a stunningly terrible start. Even people like you Greg that 1610 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,519 Speaker 2: weren't very high on them, entering the season. You didn't 1611 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,280 Speaker 2: predict them to be now laughably terrible, And I. 1612 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 4: Did take I did take them in my over under 1613 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:15,400 Speaker 4: wins lost draft. 1614 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to see. 1615 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 4: Seven and a half feeling good. 1616 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 3: I'm going to data wipe this file on NFL dot 1617 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 3: com one way or another, going to the you know 1618 01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,040 Speaker 3: the where did you have them going to the wild 1619 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:24,599 Speaker 3: card game? 1620 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 2: Oh that's not too bad, it's not too great. It's 1621 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,479 Speaker 2: not looking like a great prediction right now. 1622 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 4: Good day for the Dolphins. 1623 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:31,639 Speaker 2: Suit. 1624 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,360 Speaker 5: It's like, you get to see the Bills lose early, 1625 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 5: you get the cruise, you get first place. 1626 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 2: Our buddy, yeah, our buddy Connor. We won't talk about 1627 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,800 Speaker 2: the Patriots later, but he wrote an apology column. Well, 1628 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 2: let's let's save it for that icy hot take on 1629 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 2: the Pats. All right, let's before we get to that, 1630 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 2: let's move to Mile High State. You know what happened 1631 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:56,479 Speaker 2: in Mile High Stadium? An entire organization declared vengeance. 1632 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 4: Upon smug little man on the side. It's a mile high. 1633 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 1: Forty one seconds remaining second and ten Denver at their 1634 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 1: own forty one yard line. They still have one time out. 1635 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,879 Speaker 1: The Jets again show blitz Russell Wilson in the shotgun. 1636 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,400 Speaker 1: Are the Jets gonna bring pressure? Guess they will. 1637 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson being chased, He'll be sacked. 1638 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 2: The ball pops out, loose the buck get it. 1639 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,480 Speaker 4: Let's stood up. Bryce Hall runs down the right sideline 1640 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 4: at the. 1641 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 14: Ten five touchdown we go as the ruling on the 1642 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 14: field was a fundle by Russell Wilson off the pressure 1643 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 14: from Quincy Williams, no doubt about it. 1644 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,760 Speaker 1: Quincy knocked the ball out. It was stooped up by 1645 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 1: Bryce Hall. He took at the distance. The Jet defense 1646 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 1: scores to put this game away. 1647 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:51,960 Speaker 13: Whooooo up Bungos, it well deserved. 1648 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 4: Eric has out of Baker's host happy. 1649 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 2: Oh I think the bongos are going out to Nate Haacke. Yeah, 1650 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,439 Speaker 2: did you see and throw it up on there for 1651 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 2: the YouTube viewers. Did you see Nate Hackett glowing on 1652 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,280 Speaker 2: the sidelines at the end of the game. And it's 1653 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 2: not even like the Jets offense balled out and exposed 1654 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 2: John Payton for a lot of the criticisms with Hackett 1655 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 2: and what he did in Denver last year, but look 1656 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 2: at he's like a boy on Christmas's Peyton eating dirt like, oh, 1657 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,360 Speaker 2: I'm going six feet under the ground before Halloween and 1658 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,439 Speaker 2: look at him and everyone coming up to Nathaniel Hackett, 1659 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 2: who who was targeted unjust unfairly bite Peyton when Peyton 1660 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,000 Speaker 2: was feeling himself in the summer, and things have a 1661 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:42,840 Speaker 2: way of coming back to bite you when you do that. 1662 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,599 Speaker 2: Because the Jets score a thirty one to twenty one 1663 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,760 Speaker 2: win over the Broncos at Mile High, a win that 1664 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 2: gets the Jets to two and three, and all things considered, 1665 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,000 Speaker 2: and the absolute disaster of Aaron Rodgers in Week one, 1666 01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,679 Speaker 2: getting out of these first five games with two wins, 1667 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 2: it keeps them relevant in the AFC picture as we 1668 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,680 Speaker 2: get closer to the middle of October, because if they 1669 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 2: don't find a way in this game, wrap it up, 1670 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 2: they get the Eagles next week and it gets dark, 1671 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,439 Speaker 2: very dark. But they did find a way and Zach 1672 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 2: Wilson was not very I want to say he was 1673 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 2: terrible in this game. 1674 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 4: Non competitive. 1675 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,719 Speaker 2: He made some throws, but he also had a brutal 1676 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:29,280 Speaker 2: interception that led to eventually that big Quincy Williams sack. 1677 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,280 Speaker 2: But it opened the door for the Broncos to steal 1678 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 2: this game. After the Jets had it in control with 1679 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,720 Speaker 2: a big third quarter. But he did hit a couple 1680 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 2: throws in this game and in general wasn't completely lost 1681 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:44,840 Speaker 2: at Sea, but he's still a major problem. 1682 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,799 Speaker 4: The thing here is Breeze Hall, who. 1683 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,840 Speaker 2: You know, the best story around this Jets team is 1684 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 2: that Breeze Hall is fully back from the knee injury 1685 01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,600 Speaker 2: he suffered in Denver one year ago. He had a 1686 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 2: seventy two yard touchdown. And as I was watching the 1687 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,719 Speaker 2: highlight of the Brissall touchdown, boys, I was thinking to myself, 1688 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,639 Speaker 2: been watching the Jets for you know, thirty plus years, 1689 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:10,720 Speaker 2: but then I was thinking, I know the history of 1690 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 2: the team as well. Has there ever been a running 1691 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 2: back like Briste Hall like the on the in the 1692 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,000 Speaker 2: history of the organization that's this explosive, this fast, this 1693 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 2: type of game changer. Because when you guys watch this game, 1694 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,600 Speaker 2: you'll see there are I'm gonna say, maybe up to 1695 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,760 Speaker 2: five plays before he busts this one where he just 1696 01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 2: missed it. He just misses it. He just missed one 1697 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,120 Speaker 2: last week against Kansas City, and you're thinking, man, he 1698 01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,760 Speaker 2: keeps putting himself in position to just roll out these 1699 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,720 Speaker 2: monster plays and he's now hit on a couple of 1700 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,439 Speaker 2: them this year, and so he finishes with one hundred 1701 01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,639 Speaker 2: and seventy seven yards on the ground. And the Jets defense, 1702 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,920 Speaker 2: which has been good, Greg, as you've been pounding the drum, 1703 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 2: and you're right about it. Good better than great. 1704 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 4: This year. 1705 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,880 Speaker 2: They failed to test in Week one when they had 1706 01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,639 Speaker 2: a chance to close out the Bills on the last 1707 01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 2: drive of regulation and gave up the field goal their 1708 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 2: test here in Denver. But this time they step up 1709 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,479 Speaker 2: and it's Quincy Williams and Bryce Hall to get the 1710 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 2: job done. 1711 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 5: Quincy Williams has been a revelation to me, not to 1712 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 5: Joe Douglas and the Jets give them credit, you get 1713 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,599 Speaker 5: They gave him a contract this offseason that I thought, hmm, 1714 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 5: that's surprised. They just that's surprising because I thought he 1715 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 5: was good and bad last year. It kind of reminds 1716 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 5: me of like a Kuwan Alexander type where he makes 1717 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 5: huge game changing plays, but he gives him up too. 1718 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 4: And this year he's a pro bowler. 1719 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,720 Speaker 5: I mean, he's been a beast couple of sacks in 1720 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 5: this game and they sent pressure late and that's one 1721 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 5: of the I want to get back to Breesaw. But 1722 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,799 Speaker 5: while we're talking Quincy, like, that's one thing I'll remember 1723 01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 5: from this game is how they sent pressure a couple 1724 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 5: times on that last drive. And you saw this exchange 1725 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 5: after Quincy Williams gets the sack, uh and Sean Payton 1726 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 5: talking to Russell Wilson and some amateur lip readers out 1727 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,679 Speaker 5: there thought he said to Russell Wilson like the running 1728 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 5: back was the hot running back was was the the 1729 01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,000 Speaker 5: where you want to get? And twice on that drive, 1730 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,240 Speaker 5: the Jets confused Russell Wilson where he didn't know where 1731 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 5: to throw the ball quickly, and that's been a problem 1732 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 5: for him for his whole career. 1733 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 4: Give credit to the Jets. 1734 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, like their strengths are still their strengths. They've been 1735 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 3: through obviously total darkness and chaos and had their season 1736 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,559 Speaker 3: kind of tossed up thunder, but the defensive line comes 1737 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 3: in waves and it's like what happened today shows you 1738 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,400 Speaker 3: what they can be. And like Breese hall is, I mean, 1739 01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,360 Speaker 3: I guess I could point to like Curtis Martin as 1740 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:26,599 Speaker 3: a true Jets hero. 1741 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 2: I love Curtis Martin, He's one of the best Runner're 1742 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:33,120 Speaker 2: not the same player generation, but he didn't have that Joy. 1743 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:33,639 Speaker 4: Was the player. He reminds me most. 1744 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,599 Speaker 5: I was thinking about this today in the NFL actually 1745 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,800 Speaker 5: as a former Jet as well. It was not the 1746 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 5: same when he was on the Jets, Chris Johnson. That's 1747 01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,760 Speaker 5: because it's it's that feeling with it's kind of that 1748 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,040 Speaker 5: feeling where that went because he had one hundred what 1749 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 5: did he have in this game? 1750 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:49,599 Speaker 4: And seventy seven he had over. 1751 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,320 Speaker 5: One hundred yards even if you took out that seventy 1752 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,080 Speaker 5: two or eight nine, and it's just you're right, it 1753 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,000 Speaker 5: felt like when they're getting by the ankles, like ooh, 1754 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,040 Speaker 5: that was almost thirty five. 1755 01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:56,880 Speaker 4: And that's what Chris John's. 1756 01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's this like like this thing and it's not 1757 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,160 Speaker 3: it's not because to your team, Den, but like, so 1758 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 3: you lose Elijah vera Tucker for part of this game, 1759 01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,040 Speaker 3: a Kai becktens in and out of the lineup, Joe 1760 01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 3: Tipman gets hurt. You're don't have a go offensive line 1761 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,640 Speaker 3: to begin with, and it's like to. 1762 01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,599 Speaker 2: Do what they did with a with a really shaky 1763 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,559 Speaker 2: quarterback play and it's like they had the drive where 1764 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,280 Speaker 2: like you know, Zack Wilson doesn't even get the ball 1765 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,400 Speaker 2: off before it was with the half and lately, you know, 1766 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 2: there's these these you gotta get around this and I 1767 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,759 Speaker 2: do think that like Nathaniel Hackett is there's nothing about 1768 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,799 Speaker 2: him that says, hey, wow, this is a super creative 1769 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,760 Speaker 2: approach to attacking opponents in the ball and like it's not. 1770 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what huge incredible strength he brings to 1771 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 2: the team, but there's something I like about this team 1772 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 2: and like I have to say, well, I think it's 1773 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:38,479 Speaker 2: his personality. 1774 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 3: I really need to love him. And it's like to 1775 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 3: see all those people coming up to him at the 1776 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,680 Speaker 3: end of this game, everybody. I mean, it's like he 1777 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 3: had he had EyeBlack on his cheek because players were 1778 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 3: just hugging him, like face to face and they adore him, 1779 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,479 Speaker 3: and like, you know, whatever happens to this Jets team 1780 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,000 Speaker 3: there there's just these things to like about him this season. 1781 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,080 Speaker 3: And I think they are resilient and they could have 1782 01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 3: completely mailed it in I see a completely different opposite effect. 1783 01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 2: In general, their efforts very high. 1784 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 3: They're using their strengths and I don't know, they hard 1785 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 3: not to root for, and it's like I kind of 1786 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,439 Speaker 3: you know what, Sean Payton, it's like, I'm not going 1787 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,080 Speaker 3: to judge him, like we all make mistakes and do 1788 01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,320 Speaker 3: stuff like that, but he created him a villainous element 1789 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,920 Speaker 3: for himself. I wasn't necessarily rooting for against Sean Payton, 1790 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,240 Speaker 3: but it's like in this game, who's rooting for Sean 1791 01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 3: Payton us out of a Broncos fan. It's like you 1792 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,519 Speaker 3: went and completely shot down someone in their effort, a 1793 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,040 Speaker 3: fellow coach. They're not trying to be precious about it, 1794 01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:27,639 Speaker 3: but like, the right people won today. 1795 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,280 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson on Nathaniel Hackett right. 1796 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 12: Here, told us that Hackett got a game ball. 1797 01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:33,240 Speaker 4: I'm wondering. 1798 01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 1: I know you had just touched on it a minute ago, 1799 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 1: but were there any cool scenes in the locker room afterwards. 1800 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 9: If you could describe if you had any interaction with 1801 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,560 Speaker 9: him and then celebratory. 1802 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 11: Yeah, and you could see the emotion on his face 1803 01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:44,800 Speaker 11: a little bit, and he's trying not to show it, 1804 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,160 Speaker 11: but we all give him a big hug, told him, 1805 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:46,960 Speaker 11: we love him, told him. 1806 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 4: We're grateful to have him here, and it means a 1807 01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,760 Speaker 4: lot to us. Obviously, winnings hard in this league, so 1808 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:52,920 Speaker 4: that's that's first and foremost. 1809 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,439 Speaker 15: But but you know, obviously how things went for him 1810 01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:56,000 Speaker 15: this past year. 1811 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 4: It's tough. 1812 01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:00,400 Speaker 2: So you know, it means a lot Denver and four 1813 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,360 Speaker 2: zero and three at home at Kansas City next week 1814 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:04,639 Speaker 2: home against Packers. 1815 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,720 Speaker 3: It's not been a good it's not been a good 1816 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,719 Speaker 3: couple of years for Broncos season ticket holder. 1817 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,160 Speaker 2: It's been a little, a little rough. I know, people 1818 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,519 Speaker 2: that schedule is streaming one in eight right now, and. 1819 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,040 Speaker 5: Uh, they're gonna be mentioned with teams that are gonna 1820 01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,840 Speaker 5: trade players. They traded Randy Gregory and now we're gonna 1821 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,120 Speaker 5: hear that, you know, our guy you round for Kevin Saunders, right, 1822 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 5: Kevin Saunders back in the mix? 1823 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,800 Speaker 2: Uh, players that he went and got Kevin Saunders. 1824 01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,000 Speaker 5: Right, And then you know I saw Ian said, well, 1825 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 5: Frank Clark could be available. It's like, ooh yeah, It's 1826 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:40,200 Speaker 5: like you think it's like a player that was available 1827 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 5: in August that no one wanted then. 1828 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,560 Speaker 2: And hasn't had, you know, hasn't been health right quite Frankly, like, 1829 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 2: I'm so sick of hearing that Jerry Judy and Courtland 1830 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,000 Speaker 2: Sutton could be had. I was like, I don't know, 1831 01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,600 Speaker 2: like I'm not they don't have the same shine to me. 1832 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 2: That they did a couple of years. 1833 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 5: But Jerry Judy on the Chiefs and it'll suddenly be 1834 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,800 Speaker 5: catching like a third and twenty to win the Super Bowl. 1835 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:03,560 Speaker 2: Probably probably okay, nice though, Zach Wilson is still a 1836 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,760 Speaker 2: quarterback that you have to hide and that doesn't work 1837 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,200 Speaker 2: in the league. Oh here's a Jets troll by the 1838 01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,599 Speaker 2: way on Twitter, the old seven James. 1839 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:10,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1840 01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:15,519 Speaker 2: Everybody had a good time at Sean Payton's expense, but 1841 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,840 Speaker 2: the Jets still have a problem at quarterback, and that 1842 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,519 Speaker 2: is something to keep an eye on. But two and three, 1843 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,320 Speaker 2: given everything, I would take it. Let's move on to 1844 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,720 Speaker 2: the one team the Jets will never be able to beat. 1845 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 2: The New England Patriots once again had their hands full, 1846 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,200 Speaker 2: this time against the Saints. 1847 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,599 Speaker 4: Empty back field for Mac Jones. 1848 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 8: That now brings Stevenson to his left and how to 1849 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:41,120 Speaker 8: move a few people around. 1850 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,120 Speaker 4: Takes the snap out of the shotguns Saints Spring four 1851 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 4: and Car's Tyre Matthew fifteen ten. He will walk into 1852 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:55,400 Speaker 4: the in zone pick six for the Saints. That's how 1853 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:55,960 Speaker 4: you do it. 1854 01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,920 Speaker 1: Don't land on your offense, look the defense do it. 1855 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,439 Speaker 4: That is the first pick six for Mac Jones and 1856 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:03,400 Speaker 4: this is week. 1857 01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:07,400 Speaker 2: Five, man. I know you're not gonna believe it, Greg, 1858 01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,600 Speaker 2: but that they show that cut to Belichick on the 1859 01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 2: sideline and maybe it's just looks like the passing of youth. 1860 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 2: And yes, it's weird to see Belichick look confused and 1861 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,479 Speaker 2: helpless on the slide sideline. Because everybody has a party 1862 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 2: when they play the Patriots these days on Sunday at 1863 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,840 Speaker 2: Jillette Stadium. Who's a Saints turn? Tyron Matthew scored the 1864 01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,200 Speaker 2: start of the scoring with a pick six of Mac 1865 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,120 Speaker 2: Jones and Alvin Kamara rush for a touchdown. Dark car 1866 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:37,679 Speaker 2: through two touchdowns and a thirty four zip wow hasting 1867 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:43,519 Speaker 2: of the erstwhile thrown at ease. God dang, Greg mark down. 1868 01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,519 Speaker 2: Another win for the iconic Flashpoint Focus series. The Patriots 1869 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,200 Speaker 2: ineptitude will be one of the biggest stories in football 1870 01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 2: this week. 1871 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,799 Speaker 4: I think that is the main takeaway here. You guys 1872 01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,000 Speaker 4: have done it again. 1873 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,400 Speaker 2: Hit it, go ahead. 1874 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,479 Speaker 5: I do appreciate though, that you recognize my efforts as 1875 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,639 Speaker 5: an associate producer on this last episode. 1876 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,920 Speaker 4: And I suggested Tom, wait, what was that? 1877 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:07,320 Speaker 2: Did you just give yourself a title? 1878 01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:07,599 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1879 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:11,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, associate producer that's that that bonus money that hit 1880 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,000 Speaker 5: During the podcast, you were like, they were like, great 1881 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,920 Speaker 5: job getting Tom Kurrn whanted to do the Patriots. 1882 01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 4: That's I appreciate that. Guys. 1883 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,160 Speaker 2: What's another title? I mean that feels strong? Aggressive? 1884 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:26,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say, like, you know, quality control, assistant, a assistant, 1885 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,160 Speaker 3: best boy, best boy. 1886 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,920 Speaker 5: That's how Josh McDaniel started. Look at him now, JR 1887 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,200 Speaker 5: grip before we get to the junior grip. 1888 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:33,640 Speaker 2: That's it. 1889 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,040 Speaker 4: The Patriots total mess and we can get there. I 1890 01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 4: do find it. 1891 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 5: Funny frankly that I think Pete Carmichael, the Saints offensive coordinator, 1892 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:51,280 Speaker 5: was pressured by Saints fans and media into updating to 1893 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:55,839 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three this week that he was destroyed locally 1894 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,639 Speaker 5: for just running this old school offense. And they literally 1895 01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,519 Speaker 5: asked him in the press like how come you never 1896 01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 5: use any motion and he was just. 1897 01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,479 Speaker 4: Like, actually that's what he was, just like, actually we can. 1898 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:07,960 Speaker 4: That's in the offense. I just never call it that. 1899 01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:08,840 Speaker 2: That's on me. 1900 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 4: And he listened to him. 1901 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 5: In this entire game, if they're going motion crazy, they 1902 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 5: were lasting the league on motion and like all their 1903 01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:17,800 Speaker 5: touchdowns were set up by motion. 1904 01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,639 Speaker 2: No that's okay, by the way, Like I'm saying, it's 1905 01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,600 Speaker 2: not what you want in your your coach, because you 1906 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,120 Speaker 2: want them to be ahead of the game like you 1907 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 2: are with a flashboint focus. But it's also a good 1908 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 2: sign that you're open to ideas wherever they may come. 1909 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,599 Speaker 2: He also didn't really want to be the offensive coordinator. 1910 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,120 Speaker 4: That was the reporting. 1911 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,400 Speaker 5: I mean, it's always like been kind of whispered, and 1912 01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 5: so yeah, I think he was happy to get suggestions. 1913 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,360 Speaker 5: And look, your defense has to be pretty great to 1914 01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,240 Speaker 5: win thirty four to nothing on a day, you probably 1915 01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,920 Speaker 5: got like a B minus C plus Derek Carr. It 1916 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,840 Speaker 5: really be mina C plus offense and they just call 1917 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,360 Speaker 5: it Derek. They got a million chances and they had 1918 01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,479 Speaker 5: three hundred and four yards, and yet they were so 1919 01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:01,240 Speaker 5: dominant defensively, only gave up eight first. Carl Granderson, who 1920 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,360 Speaker 5: got a contract extension during the season, has been incredible, 1921 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,759 Speaker 5: and I think the Saints are built for this matchup. 1922 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,599 Speaker 5: Here's what they're built for, to swallow up bad passing 1923 01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:13,799 Speaker 5: teams because their secondary I think their cornerbacks are elite, 1924 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,600 Speaker 5: so they can play well from ahead against mediocre to 1925 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,599 Speaker 5: poor opponents and kind of stomp on team. They remind 1926 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,880 Speaker 5: me a little bit of last year's Patriots. I think 1927 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,360 Speaker 5: they have a little higher upside than that, but where 1928 01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 5: when they play a bad offense, they can just make 1929 01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 5: them look ridiculously bad. 1930 01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,080 Speaker 4: Mark, do you want to hear mac Jones on Slow 1931 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,799 Speaker 4: Start or Belichick? Mac Jones is still our quarterback? 1932 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 2: Well, I want to hear Belichick. 1933 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,000 Speaker 4: Okay, Bill, Bill. 1934 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,200 Speaker 8: Won't ruin into the decision to sit down back there 1935 01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,960 Speaker 8: in the understand it was again the reporter, so they 1936 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,679 Speaker 8: got this, he's still your quarterback going forward. 1937 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of problems that certainly wasn't on him. 1938 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god. And you know, you know, flashing back 1939 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:54,840 Speaker 2: to Tom Current on the show, you know, Bill, he's 1940 01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,759 Speaker 2: he's besieged right now. It's like coming from all angles. 1941 01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,720 Speaker 2: And now he's after years of almost having the upper 1942 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,920 Speaker 2: hand on the media because no matter what they would 1943 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,080 Speaker 2: say to him, he could just point to all the 1944 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:05,880 Speaker 2: rings and everything. 1945 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,080 Speaker 4: But now it's just. 1946 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,920 Speaker 2: Feels like he's he's trying to he's left to answer 1947 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,000 Speaker 2: things that it's clear he doesn't have any answers right now. 1948 01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,519 Speaker 4: And then the Patriots are lost. 1949 01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you've been outscored sixty nine to three 1950 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,439 Speaker 3: in the last two outings, which is like a shocking 1951 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:20,840 Speaker 3: I in. 1952 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,000 Speaker 4: One of those was against the Saints, Yes, Saints. 1953 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,960 Speaker 3: I guess I'm really like with you, Dan on like 1954 01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,799 Speaker 3: the fact I don't particularly take any joy or entertainment 1955 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 3: from it on some level in the sense that like 1956 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:33,519 Speaker 3: the look on his face right there, and if you 1957 01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,040 Speaker 3: see it on the YouTube, like it looks like a 1958 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 3: man who's lost, and like, you have a coaching staff 1959 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,080 Speaker 3: that is like smaller than any other coaching staff in 1960 01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:41,479 Speaker 3: the league. 1961 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,879 Speaker 2: You're the GM. You've created this punchless offense. 1962 01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:45,880 Speaker 4: It's on you. 1963 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:46,640 Speaker 2: It's fully on you. 1964 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 3: And like I think that it's an interesting historical point 1965 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 3: in time as a football fan or to watch a 1966 01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:56,160 Speaker 3: watcher of the sport to see what is, without question, 1967 01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,160 Speaker 3: in my mind, the greatest football coach of all time 1968 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,400 Speaker 3: going through this totally dark period and to the point 1969 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:05,360 Speaker 3: of the flashpoint segment, like we're asking openly asking if 1970 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,720 Speaker 3: he'll be here after the season, and like I'm at 1971 01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:09,760 Speaker 3: I'm at the point with the flashpoint thing that we 1972 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,360 Speaker 3: could literally pick any topic and do it again this 1973 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,920 Speaker 3: week and it would become something massive by next Sunday night. 1974 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:18,080 Speaker 2: It's that pression. 1975 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,400 Speaker 3: It's that on point and like, you know, we we 1976 01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 3: dealed up our topic and then now it is a 1977 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,000 Speaker 3: national firestorm in the media. 1978 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,200 Speaker 4: We should we should test that theory out. I don't 1979 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,200 Speaker 4: know how. We'll have to pick a very arcane topic 1980 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:31,800 Speaker 4: like we should. We did we? 1981 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:36,519 Speaker 2: Uh. My boys love watching Uh. They they became baseball 1982 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,040 Speaker 2: fans this year, and we watched the MLB app a lot. 1983 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 2: And They'll be like in the next room playing Nintendo, 1984 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,599 Speaker 2: and I'll be watching a game, and so we will 1985 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,640 Speaker 2: hit a home run and then I'll quietly rewind it 1986 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,120 Speaker 2: back forty seconds and then I'll say, guys, come in here. 1987 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,760 Speaker 2: And then I'll say, I say, guys, I got I 1988 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,519 Speaker 2: got a feeling again. And then I go, it's a 1989 01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,920 Speaker 2: it's a pull from the old Pee Wee's Playhouse. Rest 1990 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,640 Speaker 2: in Peace. Paul Rubens mechalka high and mecha heiny ho, 1991 01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,160 Speaker 2: mechaca high and like a chiny ho. And then Gene 1992 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,280 Speaker 2: Carlos Stanton hits one five hundred and twelve feet and 1993 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:08,840 Speaker 2: it works. They're still into it. 1994 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:09,360 Speaker 4: They believe. 1995 01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 2: See, you know, your. 1996 01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:14,320 Speaker 3: Dad did not have this technology to h I wouldn't 1997 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,240 Speaker 3: say trick, but it is tricking you into thinking he 1998 01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:16,959 Speaker 3: had a superpower. 1999 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 2: Keith didn't have that that gene at all to do 2000 01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,479 Speaker 2: anything like that. Even if Danny get over here scram 2001 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,960 Speaker 2: like to take the VCR back. I don't even know 2002 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 2: what that ties into the point we were making. But yeah, 2003 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 2: because like you. 2004 01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,679 Speaker 3: Are creating these moments with a you have a psychic 2005 01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,320 Speaker 3: almost an esp type element, and we do with our. 2006 01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,960 Speaker 5: Whole We actually do in this case we do, yes absolutely, 2007 01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,040 Speaker 5: and Greg too to some degree. Yeah, you know, associate 2008 01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:45,280 Speaker 5: producers matter too. Grip, I like everyone's gonna talk about 2009 01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:48,080 Speaker 5: Max sistem to the junior Grip and Mac Jones is 2010 01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:51,360 Speaker 5: playing some really dumb football. The pick six comes on 2011 01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,320 Speaker 5: where he's trying, He's trying to make too many plays. 2012 01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,880 Speaker 5: He's making it worse. He's falling apart obviously. But the 2013 01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:03,559 Speaker 5: reason that I'm so convinced Belichick is losing it Slash 2014 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 5: has lost it is not Mac Jones. It's that their 2015 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 5: special teams is maybe the worst in the NFL. That's 2016 01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,320 Speaker 5: he's poured so much money into the special teams and 2017 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,519 Speaker 5: that's his baby, that's his thing. Like we're gonna be 2018 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,800 Speaker 5: better on the details. I think they were thirty first 2019 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,400 Speaker 5: or thirty second d VOI heading into this week. They 2020 01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:23,360 Speaker 5: got rid of Nick Folk, for instance, and their rookie 2021 01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,000 Speaker 5: kicker miss you know Yanks another kick when this game 2022 01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,760 Speaker 5: was relatively a game. At this point, their rookie punter 2023 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,320 Speaker 5: is a disaster. All their return units, like coverage units, 2024 01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:36,439 Speaker 5: are disasters. Their offensive line since Scarnekiatless, has been a 2025 01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:40,759 Speaker 5: total abomination. They're right tackles right now, they're low Verderian 2026 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,800 Speaker 5: Lowe who's just getting mac and Bailey Zappy just killed 2027 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:46,840 Speaker 5: like his unplayable. Their offensive line is one of the 2028 01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,320 Speaker 5: very worst. So these are the things that they were 2029 01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:52,760 Speaker 5: so good at. Line play, special teams details where it's 2030 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:56,360 Speaker 5: like that's just as bad as the more higher level stuff, 2031 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,080 Speaker 5: and it's just as bad as any team in the league, 2032 01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,679 Speaker 5: And that to me is a sign that they go Yeah. 2033 01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,759 Speaker 2: I think I think Matt Patricia has too much respect 2034 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,160 Speaker 2: and love for Bill to be dancing in his home 2035 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:09,200 Speaker 2: wherever or wherever he is. 2036 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,240 Speaker 4: Where's he know, he's on a sideline somewhere, right. I 2037 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,519 Speaker 4: think he's like a special assistant to the Eagles. 2038 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,880 Speaker 2: But it did kind of I was thinking about that 2039 01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,400 Speaker 2: as like Pittsburgh fans were coming at me also that 2040 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,640 Speaker 2: sometimes you just point to the scheme or the coordinator 2041 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,800 Speaker 2: and you put all the blame on that, and then 2042 01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,360 Speaker 2: you see, like as the Patriots as an example, sometimes 2043 01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,760 Speaker 2: it's more than that. It's not just the play caller 2044 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,120 Speaker 2: of the scheme. There are more issues, and we're seeing 2045 01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,400 Speaker 2: New England has issues that go very deep. 2046 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:36,400 Speaker 5: Right, there's no roots, there's I don't know what they 2047 01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,559 Speaker 5: do either. Because they brought into Billy Zappi these last 2048 01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,759 Speaker 5: two weeks, Zambi was worse. You know, if like Zabi 2049 01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,960 Speaker 5: had done well in this game, people had been like, oh, 2050 01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,640 Speaker 5: it was just garbage type, but actually he went for 2051 01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,000 Speaker 5: he went three for nine for twenty two yards, and 2052 01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,240 Speaker 5: like went backwards and and all this stuff to what 2053 01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,479 Speaker 5: very quickly. Congrats to Alvin Kamara is the all time 2054 01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:55,759 Speaker 5: leader in Saint's touchdowns. 2055 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,240 Speaker 4: That's pretty cool. That's a long history, asked Marcus Colston. 2056 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,680 Speaker 2: And I'm Jordan is the all time sack leader. They 2057 01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:03,840 Speaker 2: got two like Saints legends playing on that team. 2058 01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,120 Speaker 5: And I got some tweets or at least this one 2059 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:11,320 Speaker 5: that asked Mark, can the Saints the Orlands Saints get 2060 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,639 Speaker 5: their new back after winning thirty four to nothing. 2061 01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,680 Speaker 2: They get the New Orleans they're tied for. 2062 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,400 Speaker 3: That was like the New Bowl. Yeah yeah, Orleans for 2063 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,439 Speaker 3: now the England we remain. I'm sorry to London, but 2064 01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,240 Speaker 3: let's the England Patriots right. 2065 01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:26,200 Speaker 4: Now we're trading you. 2066 01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,439 Speaker 2: I don't know why is they careful? Suddenly they got 2067 01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:32,360 Speaker 2: a plane in shure. I'll revise that probably before Tuesday night. 2068 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:36,439 Speaker 2: All right, let's head to Detroit where the Lions look 2069 01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,200 Speaker 2: to keep things rolling off the. 2070 01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,560 Speaker 12: Takeaway gadget play they're gonna go with the fleet clicker. 2071 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,200 Speaker 2: Goft growth man what open. 2072 01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:49,000 Speaker 16: Touch down Detroit Lions, Sam Laporta, razzle, dazzle and six 2073 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:56,960 Speaker 16: on the board. Who then, I know it's getting close 2074 01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,680 Speaker 16: to Halloween. I know we like to play tricks. That 2075 01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:01,160 Speaker 16: was some tricker rasio. 2076 01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,640 Speaker 1: Right now, Dan Johnson, he's coming with them, coming with 2077 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:05,280 Speaker 1: them today. 2078 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh man, you heard Dan Miller. There was Lomas Brown 2079 01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 2: as well. 2080 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:13,519 Speaker 4: Dan Miller. 2081 01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,439 Speaker 2: I brought this up before, but for my Pain ranking 2082 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,400 Speaker 2: series on NFL dot Com, I picked one figure connected 2083 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,679 Speaker 2: to the team to interview as part of the article, 2084 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,120 Speaker 2: and I spoke with Dan Miller and it was about 2085 01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,479 Speaker 2: all the sadness and all the badness and all the 2086 01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,439 Speaker 2: pain of the franchise and people connected to it, and 2087 01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,240 Speaker 2: he couldn't have been a nicer guy. And you hear 2088 01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,560 Speaker 2: you hear his voice on that call, and what a 2089 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,000 Speaker 2: party it is to be part of the Lions as 2090 01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,600 Speaker 2: a fan, as the play by play man, as the 2091 01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:42,280 Speaker 2: color guy. 2092 01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:43,439 Speaker 4: You gotta love it. 2093 01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,960 Speaker 2: Jared Goff through three touchdown passes in the first half, 2094 01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,080 Speaker 2: ran for another score and in the fourth quarter, Man, 2095 01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:51,960 Speaker 2: he's got fleet feet now too, and the Lions cruise 2096 01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,559 Speaker 2: forty two twenty four over the hapless Panthers. Mark Dan 2097 01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,120 Speaker 2: Campbell's team is telling us every week they're not just 2098 01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:03,360 Speaker 2: some cute underdog anymore. They are are truly well lion. 2099 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:05,120 Speaker 2: Oh they are. 2100 01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,360 Speaker 3: There's the joy coming from them and they you know, 2101 01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:13,800 Speaker 3: this is three straight wins of fourteen plus points. It 2102 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,599 Speaker 3: was a dominant crushing of Carolina. Not a good team, 2103 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,720 Speaker 3: but like they went and blew their doors off, and 2104 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:21,519 Speaker 3: I kind of get the sense they're like kind of 2105 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:22,439 Speaker 3: just coming into focus. 2106 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,840 Speaker 2: We're just starting to see what they can become. Even 2107 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,320 Speaker 2: this year you have done. 2108 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,880 Speaker 3: You're watching this team transform and I think GM Brad Holmes, 2109 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what he learned under less sneed in 2110 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,400 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. But like I know, the LA's like we 2111 01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,000 Speaker 3: refuse to draft players. We don't really operate in the 2112 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:44,040 Speaker 3: draft for the most part. Like Sam Laporta three catches, 2113 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:47,599 Speaker 3: forty seven yards, two touchdowns today. Jack Campbell week after 2114 01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:49,880 Speaker 3: week is doing something special. It's like everyone was laughing 2115 01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,880 Speaker 3: at that draft pick you brought in. Josh Reynolds from 2116 01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:53,360 Speaker 3: the Rams. 2117 01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:57,479 Speaker 2: Goff soul teammate played a huge role today with i'man 2118 01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,400 Speaker 2: ross Saint Brown out of the lineup, Jamior Gibbs out 2119 01:34:59,400 --> 01:34:59,840 Speaker 2: of the lineup. 2120 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,200 Speaker 5: You've had so many injuries, That's what part of it. 2121 01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:04,360 Speaker 5: It's like they're so reciently being as injured almost as 2122 01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:05,200 Speaker 5: any team in the league. 2123 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:06,960 Speaker 2: Right you don't have you don't have Gibbs. 2124 01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,439 Speaker 3: Dave Montgomery coming off a great week last week, one 2125 01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:13,200 Speaker 3: hundred and nine yards today, a touchdown dominant. Jared Goff 2126 01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:15,160 Speaker 3: twenty two for twenty eight for two hundred and thirty 2127 01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:18,320 Speaker 3: six yards and three touchdowns. It is like a campaign, 2128 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,640 Speaker 3: a beautiful revenge for Jared Goff. And I'm kind of 2129 01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,639 Speaker 3: over whatever I thought of him before because we stayed 2130 01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:25,160 Speaker 3: up the week after week. He fits like a puzzle 2131 01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,880 Speaker 3: piece in this offense. And then you just go and 2132 01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,880 Speaker 3: look at someone like Aiden Hutchinson, who had a masterful 2133 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:34,040 Speaker 3: interception on like a tight end screen type today where 2134 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,120 Speaker 3: he made Bryce Lung let Bryce Young look silly and 2135 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,240 Speaker 3: not able to see the field. And that's a whole 2136 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:42,280 Speaker 3: different part of this conversation. I'll mention one thing that 2137 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:46,160 Speaker 3: Chandlers have all of the rookie guard went down with. 2138 01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:48,960 Speaker 3: He went to the hospital with a neck injury. I 2139 01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:50,280 Speaker 3: don't know where we're at with that, but it was 2140 01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,400 Speaker 3: one of those things that looked very very scary out 2141 01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:53,960 Speaker 3: of the gate, and the game paused for a while 2142 01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,360 Speaker 3: and he gave a thumbs up as he was leaving 2143 01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,280 Speaker 3: the field, so hopefully he'll be all right. But this 2144 01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:04,000 Speaker 3: Lion's team, Wow, I just I honestly think that they're 2145 01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,240 Speaker 3: this They're not a sleeping giant we were seeing it. 2146 01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:10,280 Speaker 4: They're here, They're they're right there at the top of 2147 01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:10,759 Speaker 4: the NFC. 2148 01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:14,360 Speaker 5: I mean, the guy that the good teams in the 2149 01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:16,960 Speaker 5: NFC are really good, but but they're one of them 2150 01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,360 Speaker 5: coming out of the gates. And again I'm also the 2151 01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,920 Speaker 5: one that says like September is not gonna matter that much. 2152 01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:25,120 Speaker 5: In the long run, and they're building up and we'll 2153 01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:27,040 Speaker 5: see if they can keep it going. The schedule has 2154 01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:30,200 Speaker 5: definitely helped them out, but that's that's the best sign 2155 01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:32,920 Speaker 5: of a great team, to survive injuries and to beat 2156 01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:37,800 Speaker 5: bad opponents and to start mixing in new stars like 2157 01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 5: Alee McNeill has been playing really well. He had a 2158 01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,080 Speaker 5: force fumble in this game. They tried to get Jamison 2159 01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,720 Speaker 5: Williams involved and it was kind of a disaster. That's 2160 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,000 Speaker 5: maybe the only flight in the arrestor Oh, yeah, he 2161 01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:51,519 Speaker 5: had a big drop. They had three targets two yards. Yeah, 2162 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,800 Speaker 5: disasters maybe overstadium, but a big time drop. 2163 01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:58,280 Speaker 4: All right, anything else on the on the Panthers side, 2164 01:36:58,280 --> 01:36:59,880 Speaker 4: it's just you know, more the same there. 2165 01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,720 Speaker 3: Just like I'm waiting to see it with Bryce Young 2166 01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,920 Speaker 3: and I keep like the kind of the comment about 2167 01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:07,519 Speaker 3: him is like, well, you see it in little moments. 2168 01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,599 Speaker 3: It's like, I guess, I'm just I'm not. I mean, 2169 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,439 Speaker 3: the interception by Hutchinson was just a bad look. He 2170 01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,439 Speaker 3: had a terrible read on a second pick and I 2171 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,160 Speaker 3: mean he look at the team around him is a 2172 01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:21,360 Speaker 3: mess on offense and in the offensive line is not good. 2173 01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,000 Speaker 3: But it's like even if all that were the case, 2174 01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:25,920 Speaker 3: if he were like when we were looking at like 2175 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,600 Speaker 3: an Anthony Richardson, you still see these special qualities and 2176 01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:30,000 Speaker 3: I'm just waiting for it. 2177 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,679 Speaker 2: It was kismet for Aida Hutchinson to end up where 2178 01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,640 Speaker 2: he was where he ended up, you know, as a 2179 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,880 Speaker 2: Michigan guy and all that. It's amazing. Like he he 2180 01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:42,639 Speaker 2: has a lot of interceptions in his career. 2181 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:46,320 Speaker 5: I know he is the most in three is or 2182 01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,040 Speaker 5: whatever it is, three or four is the most in 2183 01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:51,559 Speaker 5: NFL history through two years from a defensive linement. 2184 01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:55,200 Speaker 4: That count. That's a stat but it's not a record. God, 2185 01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,720 Speaker 4: I don't think that's not a record. I just want 2186 01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:58,559 Speaker 4: to rip this table. 2187 01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:02,360 Speaker 5: I can imagine with me, Well, like it is a 2188 01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,360 Speaker 5: great record, but I really consider the most important record 2189 01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,360 Speaker 5: like that the defensive lineman who has the most interceptions 2190 01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,120 Speaker 5: through year four of his career. 2191 01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,400 Speaker 4: Wow, what a record that is for right, But even 2192 01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,840 Speaker 4: from it a front, nobody knows, nobody knows who has 2193 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:16,400 Speaker 4: read any of. 2194 01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:19,040 Speaker 3: That, even from your your to your conceit about this 2195 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:20,800 Speaker 3: whole thing, even that wouldn't have any meaning. 2196 01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:21,880 Speaker 4: That was my joke. 2197 01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:23,439 Speaker 2: That was the point. That was the joke. 2198 01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:24,960 Speaker 4: Now, I had to explain it. 2199 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:29,120 Speaker 2: That was That was it. I'm just taking Greg seriously 2200 01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:31,000 Speaker 2: because I feel like so heavily. 2201 01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:35,280 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, I feel bad this this Panthers 2202 01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 4: theme is said. 2203 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,800 Speaker 2: All right, let us head to one more game, and 2204 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,080 Speaker 2: it's the game everybody was waiting for. Sunday Night football. 2205 01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:46,080 Speaker 4: Niners, Cowboys. You Jonathan Hankins right in the A gap year. 2206 01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:47,880 Speaker 2: What was he gonna do here on third gun into one? 2207 01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:50,680 Speaker 12: I can guess like a give it now, it's a 2208 01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:52,920 Speaker 12: play action perty gonna roll left throw for the end 2209 01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:57,679 Speaker 12: zone by George Kettle. He has the hat trick tonight, 2210 01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:02,080 Speaker 12: the career high three touchdown catches for George touchdown. 2211 01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:11,600 Speaker 4: Sat Francisco, Greg Papa. 2212 01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,599 Speaker 2: Forty nine Ers radio man. We've been hearing a lot 2213 01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,680 Speaker 2: from Greg the last few years because the forty nine 2214 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:21,920 Speaker 2: Ers have been one of the very best operations in 2215 01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:26,040 Speaker 2: the game, and once again in primetime against a Cowboys 2216 01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,800 Speaker 2: team that thought they were up to the challenge. 2217 01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:29,080 Speaker 4: They proved. 2218 01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:35,320 Speaker 2: When they're humming right now, are they without equal? Eagles 2219 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,200 Speaker 2: have something to say about that, and we'll find out 2220 01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:43,599 Speaker 2: in time. Forty two to ten Niners over Cowboys and Greg. 2221 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:48,559 Speaker 2: That score accurately sums up what we witness, which was carnage, 2222 01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:51,040 Speaker 2: an absolute stomping. 2223 01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,519 Speaker 4: One contender, maybe one pretender, I don't know. 2224 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:59,760 Speaker 5: I am stunned by how thorough it was, and a 2225 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,439 Speaker 5: just gets me thinking about what kind of NFL do 2226 01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,760 Speaker 5: you want? We want better Sunday night games. First of all, 2227 01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,040 Speaker 5: we want these games that look like, hey, this is 2228 01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,360 Speaker 5: the latest game of the year, like Bill's Dolphins last week. 2229 01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,360 Speaker 4: We wanted to be closer. We want it to be 2230 01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:13,920 Speaker 4: a great game. 2231 01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:19,920 Speaker 5: But I also love an NFL where the great teams 2232 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:23,479 Speaker 5: are truly great. I like having the Chiefs there a 2233 01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,840 Speaker 5: year after year. I like that the forty nine Ers 2234 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:30,200 Speaker 5: and the Eagles right now are five and zero and 2235 01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,920 Speaker 5: the rest of the NFC is just going to have 2236 01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,040 Speaker 5: to deal with them or catch up. 2237 01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:36,519 Speaker 4: And the forty nine. 2238 01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:39,240 Speaker 5: Ers are a team we know so well, like it 2239 01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:43,639 Speaker 5: feels new because party's there, but so many of these 2240 01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,800 Speaker 5: guys were there in twenty nineteen when they were a 2241 01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:49,280 Speaker 5: couple plays away from winning the Super Bowl, and then 2242 01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,479 Speaker 5: they're back knocking on the doorstep in twenty and twenty 2243 01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,600 Speaker 5: one in the Conference Championship, and now the offense and 2244 01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,840 Speaker 5: the defense being this great together where both sides of 2245 01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:02,920 Speaker 5: the ball can dominate a good Cowboys. This thoroughly is 2246 01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,320 Speaker 5: just impressive. But I like an NFL where a forty 2247 01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:07,719 Speaker 5: nine ers team is this good this early in the season. 2248 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because we we can look at the schedulet you can. 2249 01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,400 Speaker 5: I don't, I mean, I don't like this game, but 2250 01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,679 Speaker 5: I'm just impressed, and I'm impressed with great I see 2251 01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:15,160 Speaker 5: what you mean. 2252 01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,200 Speaker 3: Because I mean I I you know, growing up as 2253 01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:20,400 Speaker 3: a fan in the eighties and early nineties, they're the 2254 01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,080 Speaker 3: parody that we have now was I mean, they were 2255 01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,320 Speaker 3: you know, longing for I guess on some level, but 2256 01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:28,040 Speaker 3: it was typically like when the NFC won the Super Bowl, 2257 01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:32,200 Speaker 3: like fifteen sixteen years in a row, these dominant, roving, 2258 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:36,320 Speaker 3: massive teams that were dynasties. Essentially you go from one 2259 01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,280 Speaker 3: dynasty the next. So I look down the schedule and 2260 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,840 Speaker 3: they play in December Philadelphia and San Francisco. I'd rather 2261 01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:43,800 Speaker 3: be a Titanic thing that we're sort of on the 2262 01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,439 Speaker 3: horizon because I look at this game. I was talking 2263 01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:48,840 Speaker 3: to you Dan, like you know, on the previous show, 2264 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:50,760 Speaker 3: I'm saying, well, Dallas needs to prove something to me. 2265 01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:52,880 Speaker 3: I've been suspicious of them, and it wasn't just the 2266 01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:54,280 Speaker 3: Cardinals game. 2267 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:55,920 Speaker 4: But it's like they prove some of them. 2268 01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,320 Speaker 3: Who are they and like, are they like as good 2269 01:41:58,360 --> 01:41:59,880 Speaker 3: as they seem in some of these hi moments when 2270 01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,360 Speaker 3: you blew out the Giants, which now looks you know, 2271 01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:07,559 Speaker 3: like so hum. This game really doesn't tell me too 2272 01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,439 Speaker 3: much about Dallas, to be honest, because I think they 2273 01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,200 Speaker 3: can still go win Oh come on, well no, but 2274 01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:12,760 Speaker 3: they can go win eleven or twelve games. 2275 01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:13,920 Speaker 2: Well, here's what it like. 2276 01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:16,519 Speaker 3: I don't trust them, but I didn't trust them before 2277 01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:18,679 Speaker 3: this game, and I don't trust them in big spots, 2278 01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:19,880 Speaker 3: and I don't trust them in January. 2279 01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:22,479 Speaker 5: This to me trust them in this matchup because this 2280 01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,480 Speaker 5: very well could be the same matchup in San Francisco 2281 01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:26,840 Speaker 5: at some point in the Sure. 2282 01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:30,439 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is it it's telling me more about 2283 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:34,400 Speaker 2: the powerful, almost indestructible nature of a healthy Niners team. Yeah, 2284 01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,519 Speaker 2: I'm a little I'm a little bummed about the game 2285 01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:40,120 Speaker 2: because what I will. I know the Niners are a superpower. 2286 01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:44,840 Speaker 2: I know the Eagles are a superpower. But then look 2287 01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:49,240 Speaker 2: at the rest of the NFC, maybe Detroit cross your fingers. 2288 01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,839 Speaker 4: I mean they're looking as good as you get possible. 2289 01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,679 Speaker 2: It's interesting, but it's early, okay, right now, they look great. 2290 01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:59,680 Speaker 2: The Cowboys. To me, this was a clear measuring stick game. 2291 01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:00,920 Speaker 4: Where are you to me? 2292 01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,679 Speaker 2: You were exposed here, You're You're gonna you'll be okay, 2293 01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,559 Speaker 2: You're gonna probably get a playoff spot unless you get 2294 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,400 Speaker 2: hit with injuries. But I'm not now now, I'm not 2295 01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:13,920 Speaker 2: really looking forward to if that game happens again, whether 2296 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:18,320 Speaker 2: it be wild card round or divisional round, the Cowboys 2297 01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,560 Speaker 2: and the Niners playing against each other, there's not a 2298 01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:22,840 Speaker 2: lot of juice to it, because I know what this 2299 01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:24,920 Speaker 2: is about. There is a forty nine Ers team that 2300 01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:28,960 Speaker 2: is much more talented and a Cowboys team. They don't 2301 01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:31,200 Speaker 2: They're never gonna admit it, but this team's in their 2302 01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,840 Speaker 2: head on top of it, and they they played something 2303 01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,760 Speaker 2: during the pregame show on NBC of Dak getting indignant. 2304 01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:41,400 Speaker 2: In a press conference ahead of this game. This is 2305 01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:44,880 Speaker 2: earlier in the week, and a reporter asked if, like 2306 01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,200 Speaker 2: the playoff game last year and or how the last 2307 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,320 Speaker 2: two playoffs have ended your seasons against San Francisco, is 2308 01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,360 Speaker 2: that kind of stick with you? And he he kind 2309 01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:56,640 Speaker 2: of glared at the reporter. He's like, thanks for reminding me, 2310 01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:00,439 Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, it does bother me, and he 2311 01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:01,800 Speaker 2: kind of walked off. I don't know, he was kind 2312 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:03,760 Speaker 2: of playing it up a little, but also like this 2313 01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,439 Speaker 2: idea that there was a chip on my shoulder and 2314 01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,160 Speaker 2: we have a grudge, we're gonna settle things this weekend. 2315 01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,360 Speaker 2: And then you don't don't even show up. You had 2316 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,000 Speaker 2: eight first downs, you don't even show up, and Dak 2317 01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,639 Speaker 2: is terrible again in a big spot and he's not alone. 2318 01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,639 Speaker 2: Nobody else shows up this defense. I know Trayvon Diggs 2319 01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,960 Speaker 2: isn't there now after the ACL but man like that, 2320 01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,320 Speaker 2: that is a horrific, horrendous performance. And rock Perty's been 2321 01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:29,160 Speaker 2: throwing with a lot of pass protection and with wide 2322 01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,760 Speaker 2: open receivers flying all over the place all year. But 2323 01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:33,519 Speaker 2: it wasn't supposed to be like that this game, Like 2324 01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,200 Speaker 2: the Cowboys were supposed to be a top defense. They 2325 01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:37,960 Speaker 2: certainly were exposed in that sense as well. 2326 01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:39,840 Speaker 3: I think one thing is because it's like I get it, 2327 01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,439 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, it's a Dallas Cowboys quarterbacks is always going 2328 01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,400 Speaker 3: to be the centerpiece of these conversations about canny rise 2329 01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:47,200 Speaker 3: to the moments like I think what happens tonight a 2330 01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:51,760 Speaker 3: little bit is like conversation over what rise to what 2331 01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:52,800 Speaker 3: moment when like. 2332 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,120 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not because of a week five What 2333 01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:55,519 Speaker 4: do you mean? 2334 01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,120 Speaker 3: Like right now is because over and over Dak Prescott 2335 01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,559 Speaker 3: in big moments has not and not against this team. 2336 01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,000 Speaker 3: Like really, like all these things boil down to like 2337 01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,000 Speaker 3: the team you can't get pasted, Like when the Bulls 2338 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,400 Speaker 3: couldn't get past the Detroit Pistons until finally they could. 2339 01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,759 Speaker 3: You know, it's like they can't get past the Niners, 2340 01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:15,280 Speaker 3: and instead of getting better and getting closer, you're getting 2341 01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,679 Speaker 3: farther away. It looks worse. Kellen Moore was your scapegoat 2342 01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,120 Speaker 3: coming off of last season. What was the plan tonight? 2343 01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:24,519 Speaker 3: They looked disorganized with no plan, no strategy, and no 2344 01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:26,599 Speaker 3: edge on a team that they cannot get passed. 2345 01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,519 Speaker 5: Right, We've done this long enough that I always feel 2346 01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:33,800 Speaker 5: that in week five, like you always allow for the 2347 01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:36,000 Speaker 5: room that these teams could be totally different by the 2348 01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:37,880 Speaker 5: time they do play in the playofs because we've just 2349 01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,679 Speaker 5: seen it so many different times. But everything you're saying 2350 01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,920 Speaker 5: is also true, and the reality is there are two 2351 01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,920 Speaker 5: games back of the Eagles, like that, that's a very 2352 01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:49,479 Speaker 5: real thing in a conference where Cowboys fans are almost assuming, well, 2353 01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:52,320 Speaker 5: we're in the playoffs. Well, you're in the playoffs needing 2354 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,080 Speaker 5: to win three road games in a conference with the 2355 01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,600 Speaker 5: forty nine ers and the Eagles, unless you make up 2356 01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:02,640 Speaker 5: those two games that you're already down against Philadelphia. I 2357 01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:08,280 Speaker 5: was surprised that the run game was so effective against 2358 01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:11,639 Speaker 5: this Dallas defense and that the receivers were so open. 2359 01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:13,679 Speaker 5: I think Dravon Dicks is a big loss, but still, 2360 01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:17,640 Speaker 5: come on, I am really impressed with Perdi's ability. I 2361 01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:19,560 Speaker 5: think you saw it on this the first and the 2362 01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,479 Speaker 5: third Kittle touchdown. It's hard to keep track, but how 2363 01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:26,240 Speaker 5: does he naturally moves away from the pressure. And it's 2364 01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,599 Speaker 5: just like a small, little subtle thing, but it's like, okay, 2365 01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:30,600 Speaker 5: if there is a little pressure, it's like he's just 2366 01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:32,560 Speaker 5: gonna back up three or four yards and go to 2367 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,760 Speaker 5: the left and then and it makes the throw even 2368 01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,120 Speaker 5: easier and buy like an extra second or two. 2369 01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,000 Speaker 4: He does have a very nice feel. 2370 01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,040 Speaker 5: He obviously has nice accuracy, and we watched the game 2371 01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,920 Speaker 5: with Daniel Jeremiah who notes, like, look, he's just driving 2372 01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,400 Speaker 5: a Ferrari and he's good at driving it, but it 2373 01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,519 Speaker 5: is a Ferrari and that's all true. They might have 2374 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:52,360 Speaker 5: like five or six Hall of Famers on this team, 2375 01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,240 Speaker 5: but he's doing all the subtle things that you want 2376 01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,160 Speaker 5: to see that make you believe he can continue to 2377 01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:59,160 Speaker 5: do it all the way until Vegas. 2378 01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has been pretty much perfect as a starter. Yes, 2379 01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:07,639 Speaker 2: I mean he is the all time safety net bailout 2380 01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:09,880 Speaker 2: for this team that whiffed on Trey Lance and then 2381 01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,040 Speaker 2: took party with the last pick, and this is what 2382 01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:12,639 Speaker 2: you're getting. 2383 01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,559 Speaker 5: He's only like, Yeah, wouldn't they be four and one 2384 01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,439 Speaker 5: with Trey Lance or Sam Darnold. They wouldn't be as good, right, 2385 01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,880 Speaker 5: but they like we win, we winning games, they'd find 2386 01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:21,120 Speaker 5: a way. 2387 01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:23,439 Speaker 2: We kind of said it right before we went on, 2388 01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:27,200 Speaker 2: like it's almost it almost gets you like maybe again 2389 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:30,000 Speaker 2: this is like some have not type fan talking, but like, 2390 01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,400 Speaker 2: how do you mortgage your entire future to go up 2391 01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:37,280 Speaker 2: to number three and go get a quarterback with on 2392 01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,920 Speaker 2: that on an almost unimaginable level to the point where 2393 01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:43,760 Speaker 2: you lose all that draft capital and you would have 2394 01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,680 Speaker 2: trade in the pick after two years of him doing 2395 01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,000 Speaker 2: nothing and then be in this position where you are 2396 01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:50,760 Speaker 2: a super team. It makes you think, oh, what if 2397 01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:53,120 Speaker 2: they nailed that pick, or what does that even mean? 2398 01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,400 Speaker 2: Maybe Mac Jones is doing the same thing that that 2399 01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:59,880 Speaker 2: Rock Purtty is. But I feel like, and you'll like 2400 01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:01,840 Speaker 2: this point, Mark, because I know you agree with it. 2401 01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:04,600 Speaker 2: I feel like every time we have these conversations it 2402 01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,320 Speaker 2: goes back to somehow kind of taking a little air 2403 01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:10,720 Speaker 2: out of party's balloon to show how great the Niners are, 2404 01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,680 Speaker 2: where it's like, maybe this all just came together in 2405 01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,839 Speaker 2: like a beautiful happenstance, and now you have a perfect 2406 01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:21,439 Speaker 2: quarterback for this perfect team. And my last point, boy, 2407 01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,720 Speaker 2: before I throw it back to you, is I love 2408 01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:26,880 Speaker 2: a good unstoppable for us versus a movable object. I 2409 01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:31,479 Speaker 2: grew up on Cowboys and Niners NFC Tilts in the 2410 01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,479 Speaker 2: early nineties, and it was like, you knew what the 2411 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,840 Speaker 2: matchup was in September, barring some like crazy injury. I 2412 01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,360 Speaker 2: just I was hoping that the Cowboys might be the 2413 01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,840 Speaker 2: team that's in the mix as well. And I know 2414 01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:44,680 Speaker 2: it's early, Greg, but I just you just get the 2415 01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:46,960 Speaker 2: feeling that they're not at this level. Maybe the Lions 2416 01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:48,840 Speaker 2: are that team. Maybe there's another team that will rise 2417 01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,080 Speaker 2: up in the next two months. But this, I mean 2418 01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:54,080 Speaker 2: twelve three, the Hawks look pretty good. Oh fuck, come on, 2419 01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:57,640 Speaker 2: that's a different tier. December third, San Francisco at Philadelphia 2420 01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:59,600 Speaker 2: is the date to circle. Here is the game of 2421 01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:03,040 Speaker 2: the year. And I feel like the last weekend in 2422 01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,679 Speaker 2: January NFC title game, we're gonna see those teams again. 2423 01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,400 Speaker 2: Get if the Cowboys aren't that team, please give me 2424 01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:11,320 Speaker 2: one more. Let's get the NFC. Get a little more 2425 01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:13,599 Speaker 2: juice in the NFC here. I think it's a two 2426 01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:15,320 Speaker 2: team conference right now. I'm with you. 2427 01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,400 Speaker 3: A lot can change and it's like you want to overreact, 2428 01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:20,120 Speaker 3: Except this isn't an aberration for the Niners. 2429 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,680 Speaker 2: They've been doing this for years and. 2430 01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,120 Speaker 3: In a way, like for the fact that they lucked 2431 01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:28,240 Speaker 3: out on Party, I would say that there were many 2432 01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:33,519 Speaker 3: seasons where quarterback injuries and injury chaos like took the 2433 01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:35,840 Speaker 3: Niners and Shanahan's teams out of it. And so it's 2434 01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,920 Speaker 3: like there is like, you know, you keep drafting quarterbacks, 2435 01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,640 Speaker 3: you keep developing, and we already trust that chanhan can maximize. 2436 01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:42,439 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 2437 01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:44,040 Speaker 3: It's the last thing I'll say too, is like this 2438 01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:46,080 Speaker 3: thing about Party where it's like we're kind of always 2439 01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,080 Speaker 3: looking around him as for why they're succeeding. It's like, 2440 01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:50,439 Speaker 3: I don't know what else you can ask quarterback to do. 2441 01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:52,839 Speaker 3: I think it's because he's not like a physical specimen 2442 01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:55,080 Speaker 3: where he's not Anthony Richardson, he's not Cam Newton. It's 2443 01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:56,680 Speaker 3: like he looks a little bit kind of like a 2444 01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,360 Speaker 3: high school quarterback playing in the NFL to me, and 2445 01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:02,320 Speaker 3: yet he he is. It's not just Shanahan like he's 2446 01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:04,880 Speaker 3: making these throws, he's seeing the field. He's calm on 2447 01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:07,839 Speaker 3: the field like his teammates totally love him, the coaches 2448 01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,519 Speaker 3: totally dig them. Daniel Jeremiah was telling us that he's 2449 01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:15,320 Speaker 3: known as this like hyper intense competitive quarterback in practice 2450 01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:16,920 Speaker 3: in games like this is who he is. 2451 01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:18,600 Speaker 2: He fits what they're trying to do. 2452 01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:22,000 Speaker 5: But that's it's why football's are really fun sport to cover, 2453 01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:26,160 Speaker 5: because it's everything, it's all interconnected. You could say that 2454 01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:29,280 Speaker 5: on some level, we were talking about this too, that 2455 01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:33,479 Speaker 5: that Deebo and Ayuk are they're not products of the system, 2456 01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:37,920 Speaker 5: but it's hard to evaluate how they would be outside 2457 01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:41,040 Speaker 5: of this system, just because it all works so well together. 2458 01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:44,920 Speaker 5: The cornerbacks are all shading on the way that they 2459 01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:47,920 Speaker 5: cover Ayuk and Purdy because and their eyes are all 2460 01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,240 Speaker 5: on the backfield because so much is going on before 2461 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:54,439 Speaker 5: the neck snap, because they have so much responsibilities with 2462 01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:56,640 Speaker 5: the running game, which is so dynamic, what they do 2463 01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:58,720 Speaker 5: before the snap and how they run the ball, that 2464 01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:02,559 Speaker 5: that offers Iyuk and Deebo the chance to have these 2465 01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:04,600 Speaker 5: free releases and get one on one coverage that like 2466 01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:07,640 Speaker 5: other receivers wouldn't get. It all works together. And then oh, 2467 01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:09,160 Speaker 5: by the way it works. On the other side, you 2468 01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:13,879 Speaker 5: get Cleveland Ferrell, a certified Trey lance of the Raiders 2469 01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,560 Speaker 5: for four years, and like he shows up there and 2470 01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:19,679 Speaker 5: because their defensive line is so loaded in that system, 2471 01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,120 Speaker 5: so friendly, like he turns into a really productive player, so. 2472 01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:23,920 Speaker 2: Worried about the defensive line. 2473 01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:27,240 Speaker 4: It's a credit to all of them. Four coordinator switch, 2474 01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:29,559 Speaker 4: it's everything, It's freaking everything. 2475 01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:33,000 Speaker 2: It's awesome. And just to give you a snapshot of 2476 01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:36,280 Speaker 2: how out of hand that game was, they cut to 2477 01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,400 Speaker 2: Jara's suite and he doesn't even look like he's that bummed. 2478 01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,800 Speaker 2: It's almost like that whole sweet for about an hour 2479 01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:43,679 Speaker 2: was already hour and a half was like, oh, Okay, 2480 01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,639 Speaker 2: we know where we are now. And then you cut 2481 01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,920 Speaker 2: down to the sideline with four minutes ago and John 2482 01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:49,480 Speaker 2: Lynch just handed down handshakes. 2483 01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:51,040 Speaker 4: Man. 2484 01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:55,040 Speaker 2: Hey, how about how about a week? What do we 2485 01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:56,120 Speaker 2: got coming up week six? 2486 01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:57,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, we are headed to London. 2487 01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:03,479 Speaker 2: Yes about we get some nice like rockers in primetime 2488 01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:04,800 Speaker 2: this week. So you've got the Giants on. 2489 01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:07,519 Speaker 4: Let me use the parlance of where we're going. Let's 2490 01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:08,400 Speaker 4: get some quirkers. 2491 01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:11,320 Speaker 2: You got giants, Bills can Your hope is that that's 2492 01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:11,799 Speaker 2: a quirker. 2493 01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:15,080 Speaker 5: We've got Broncos chiefs, Broncos chiefs and Giants. 2494 01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:17,800 Speaker 4: Okay, you know a corker, you know, like Greg. 2495 01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:22,320 Speaker 5: We got the London game Ravens Titans on NFL Network. 2496 01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:24,760 Speaker 2: That one's gonna be good. We'll be there all right, 2497 01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:29,920 Speaker 2: good stuff. Thank you everybody, uh for following along as always. 2498 01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:32,360 Speaker 2: And we got another big week of action coming up, 2499 01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:35,280 Speaker 2: both here in the States and then yes in England, 2500 01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:39,960 Speaker 2: our latest jaunt over the seas until Monday. 2501 01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:40,559 Speaker 4: Heed the call.