WEBVTT - CLASSIC: What is Project Blue Beam?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, folks, friends and neighbors, fellow conspiracy realist, the time

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<v Speaker 1>has come. You've heard us mention this concept often because

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<v Speaker 1>we've been obsessed with it for years. In these divisive

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<v Speaker 1>times of recent modern history. What could unite the eight

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<v Speaker 1>plus billion people living on Earth, species that famously can't

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<v Speaker 1>agree on anything up to an including condiments for different

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<v Speaker 1>hot dogs. What on Earth or off Earth could unite

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<v Speaker 1>this disparate ragtag group of what we call humans.

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<v Speaker 2>There are two things, and we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>them in this episode. Hell yeah, there are two things,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna talk about so much stuff, guys. But

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<v Speaker 2>water projections, vapor projections are such a real thing now,

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<v Speaker 2>even after five years of recording this episode in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like it could absolutely happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, what can we also say?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this was something that came up in our

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<v Speaker 4>Q and A for the live show that we did

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<v Speaker 4>on the Virgin Voyage It's True Crime Expedition, whatever you

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<v Speaker 4>want to call it. This is something that is very

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<v Speaker 4>much still on people's minds and relevant today.

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<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, So travel with us, folks, back to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty before the only thing we're really missing from This

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<v Speaker 1>explanation is the phenomenal and terrifying breakthroughs in mass drone

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<v Speaker 1>swarm technology. This is our question, what is Project Bluebeam

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<v Speaker 1>dream big with us? After a word from our.

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<v Speaker 5>Sponsors, from UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History

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<v Speaker 5>is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now

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<v Speaker 5>or learn this stuff. They don't gant you to know.

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<v Speaker 5>A production of Iheartrading.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt nol

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<v Speaker 2>Is on an adventure today, but we'll be returning soon.

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<v Speaker 3>They call me Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>We are joined as always with our super producer Paul Michig.

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<v Speaker 1>Control decands most importantly, you are you, You are here,

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, we record these episodes in advance. They

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<v Speaker 1>publish anywhere from what would you say, Matt, a week

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe two weeks later?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say maximum two weeks. We can't really

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<v Speaker 2>get that far ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the most we've ever had it together. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>that's literally the most, and I think that was one time.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's episode is a classic episode. I would call it

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<v Speaker 1>something that we've known about for years. We've somehow never

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<v Speaker 1>done a podcast on but we are like the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. We are living in a time where

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<v Speaker 1>history is being written. We are recording this on June one,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. We are based, as we say all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, Georgia, and as we record this, the nation

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<v Speaker 1>is a wash in protests against ongoing police brutality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it is, and our city is certainly seeing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the protests and it's all in reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>the killing of a man named George Floyd. And we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about that at a later date, but

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<v Speaker 2>today we'd like to just have maybe a moment of

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<v Speaker 2>reflection within this podcast and then we'll start the show. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So switching gears here, we got another voice message, and

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<v Speaker 2>I say another because this person calls in all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Wayne. Wayne, you know who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen the title of this episode, so I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you are quite excited, as are Ben and I and Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we are covering something that we've talked about before,

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<v Speaker 2>as been mentioned at the top here. But it's something

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<v Speaker 2>near and dear to your heart, Wayne, and it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that I have cited several times as my favorite conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe Ben and today we are asking the question

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<v Speaker 2>what is Project bluebem?

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<v Speaker 1>So here are the facts. Let's start this way a

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<v Speaker 1>bit differently. I was thinking about this the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to start it. It's odd to get into. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to start with the actual conspiracy theory at hand when

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<v Speaker 1>we ask what is Project Bluebeam?

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to give you.

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<v Speaker 1>The origin story first. Most people know about Project Bluebeam

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<v Speaker 1>because back in nineteen ninety four, a Chebaquah author named

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<v Speaker 1>Serge manast went you know, achieved to some notoriety and

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<v Speaker 1>some public attention in fringe circles with claims that NASA, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that NASA either plans to or already has begun implementing

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<v Speaker 1>a new Age religion with the Antichrist or some version

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<v Speaker 1>thereof as its leader, in hopes of starting a new

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<v Speaker 1>world order through the use of high end communications technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it's not just NASA, by the way, the

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<v Speaker 2>North American Space Agency, It's also the United Nations. So

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was gonna get involved with this whole thing, at

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<v Speaker 2>least according to this conspiracy, and the basic idea is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much the scenario that played out in Watchmen. If

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever read the comic or watched the movie that

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<v Speaker 2>came out back in the day, or the scenario that

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<v Speaker 2>was alluded to very much so in the new HBO

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<v Speaker 2>series of The Watchmen, where oh that's my son, where

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing that could really bring all of humanity

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<v Speaker 2>together is some kind of outside invading force of a

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<v Speaker 2>power more powerful than the biggest nuclear weapon that's ever existed, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of large scale global event that threatened all

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<v Speaker 2>of humanity, so we would all ban together.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's an interesting point in chronology I want to

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<v Speaker 1>propose here. First, let me step back and say, you're right, Math,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. It wasn't just the United Nations.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just NASA. It's also the Freemasons. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what's vaguely referred to as the Illuminati. At times,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple mad libs of organizations come into play or under

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<v Speaker 1>accusation here. But Watchman the comic was created by a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic writer, notoriously cantankerous human being named Alan Moore. It

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<v Speaker 1>first appeared in nineteen eighty five, So keep that time

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<v Speaker 1>in your mind, keep it at the front of your head.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll give you a spoiler alert.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the age of Watchmen, we're going to count

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<v Speaker 1>this down. Spoilers, you know, turn back now or have

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<v Speaker 1>Watchmen spoiled for you? Three to one spoilers and Watchmen,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the characters attempts to create create this global

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<v Speaker 1>unification you mentioned Matt by genetically engineering a gigantic squid

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<v Speaker 1>like thing that also has psychic powers, and it creates

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous tragedy.

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<v Speaker 3>Millions of people die. It's it's it's very bad. In short.

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<v Speaker 1>In Project Bluebeam again, according to Serge Manask, all the

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<v Speaker 1>world's governments conspire to create the Messiah that they wish

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<v Speaker 1>to see in the world, and to create.

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<v Speaker 3>It not as a.

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<v Speaker 1>It's difficult to say what Manasse conclusively believed toward the end,

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<v Speaker 1>but at times he it described it as simply a

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<v Speaker 1>means of secular control by taking advantage of people's credulous nature,

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<v Speaker 1>but then in other other times is very explicitly saying

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<v Speaker 1>this is actual supernatural stuff. We'll get into the specifics

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, but for the timeline, it's interesting because in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of conspiratorial claims, we see that their achilles

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<v Speaker 1>heel can be timeline right, like the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>world millenary and cults and so on. They always seem

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<v Speaker 1>to have some challenges when they say the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the world will be in eighteen fifty eight. Wait, scratch that,

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<v Speaker 1>I misread the you know, Holy tiles, it'll be nineteen seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>but definitely nineteen seventeen. Manasta has explained that by saying

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<v Speaker 1>that the world's government's true masters, you know insert down here,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever you think they might be, wanted to do this

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty three, two years before Watchmen publishes, but

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't able to do it for one reason or another,

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<v Speaker 1>call it technical difficulties. And then later in his nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four comments he said it would happen in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five, he said, what happened in nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the same year that a widely mistranslated Nostradamis quote

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<v Speaker 1>also was said to foretell the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Around the time of his death in nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>Manaske claimed that Project Blue Beam would occur in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's twenty twenty now, a horrible year. But as far

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<v Speaker 1>as we know, the mainstream of the world has not

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<v Speaker 1>said Manast was right, has not said Project Blue Beam

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<v Speaker 1>has occurred, but we'll see that not everybody on the

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<v Speaker 1>fringes agrees.

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<v Speaker 2>And again we are going to get into the specifics

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<v Speaker 2>of what Serge Manask believed was going to happen or

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to happen, and all of those times, you

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<v Speaker 2>know where the date kind of kept getting pushed back

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<v Speaker 2>and pushed back. But let's jump backwards to nineteen forty five,

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<v Speaker 2>to the year that Serge Manast was born. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>that's just the time he was born. We're not actually

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<v Speaker 2>going to spend a lot of hanging around in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty five. We kind of remember World War Two and

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<v Speaker 2>it ending and everything. And then moving on up to

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, Surge or mister Manast,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a journalist. I mean, he was pretty legit.

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<v Speaker 2>He was at times pretty controversial, but he was a

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<v Speaker 2>member of the Social Credit Party back in those times.

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<v Speaker 2>Again we said he was from Quebec, Canada. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>he spent a lot of his life. And then in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen nineties he started shifting his focus away from

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<v Speaker 2>you know, journalism with the capital J and started writing

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<v Speaker 2>books and books about his beliefs, books about conspiracies, essentially

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<v Speaker 2>the New World Order was one of the main topics

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<v Speaker 2>that he focused on, and he talks about his inspirations

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<v Speaker 2>being one person, specifically William guy Carr. That's C. A. R. R.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was also a Canadian.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, William James guy Carr.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a former Navy officer, author, noted conspiracy theorist.

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<v Speaker 3>He is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's kind of a lynchpin in the folklore of North

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<v Speaker 1>American based illuminati thought. And he is also I should

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<v Speaker 1>note he is also definitely an anti semi. I would

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<v Speaker 1>not consider him necessarily I'm saying this very carefully. I

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<v Speaker 1>would not consider him necessarily a rational source. But that

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<v Speaker 1>is someone that thematically we seem an ass drawing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of tropes from so when as

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<v Speaker 1>founded the International Free Press Agency, and that's that would

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<v Speaker 1>come to be where he published the.

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<v Speaker 3>Bulk of his work in this field.

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<v Speaker 1>He had an interview on the on a television show

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<v Speaker 1>hosted by ufologist Richard Glynn. It may be familiar to

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<v Speaker 1>some people. I want to apologize in advance for my

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<v Speaker 1>butchering of the fine French language. Here Esoteri's experimental esoteric

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<v Speaker 1>experiments in there. He is quite emphatic warning people about

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<v Speaker 1>the rise of a one world government, and in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five he publishes what is largely considered to be

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<v Speaker 1>his you know, his mag mopis.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the protocol Mmm. This is me trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do French again, the Protocols of Toronto six. And inside

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<v Speaker 2>this work he reveals that the Masons, there's a very

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<v Speaker 2>specific group of them called six sixty six, and these people,

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty years have been getting together with all the

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<v Speaker 2>movers and shakers of the world, the most powerful people,

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<v Speaker 2>to establish essentially the Illuminati or you know, in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>it's referred to as the New World Order, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>their entire goal is to control the minds of humanity,

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<v Speaker 2>of all the people, mass mind control essentially. And for

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<v Speaker 2>someone who truly believes this, that you know, there's some

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<v Speaker 2>group out there that's secretly trying to put everyone under

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of spell or mind control, you can imagine

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<v Speaker 2>that there's there's a feeling of, you know, of fear

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe these people know that you know, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it publicly, so you know, whether it was

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<v Speaker 2>true or not. Manass believed and he claimed that he

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<v Speaker 2>was being hunted by police by other authorities for distributing

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff. What he called for his involvement

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<v Speaker 2>in quote, networks of prohibited information, right, the stuff they

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<v Speaker 2>don't want you to know. You can imagine that he

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<v Speaker 2>probably felt that, whether it's true or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that is a quote from him, networks of

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<v Speaker 1>prohibited information. That's something else. That that's something else you

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<v Speaker 1>should keep in the front of your mind as we

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<v Speaker 1>continue here. Think of this part as the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the roller coaster slowly.

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<v Speaker 3>Up the hill.

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<v Speaker 1>So he homeschooled his children, his son and his daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eventually, in September of nineteen ninety six, the

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<v Speaker 1>year of his death, they were removed from his care

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<v Speaker 1>and made wards of the state, the idea being that

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<v Speaker 1>they had a right to receive education. Manasked himself was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested just a few months later, December of nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 1>He spent the night incarcerated, he was released, he returned

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<v Speaker 1>to his home, and he passed away. And the official

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<v Speaker 1>cause is listed as a heart attack, and today that

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<v Speaker 1>official conclusion remains that the death of surgemon Est came

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of a combination of poor health and stress.

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<v Speaker 1>But his supporters will argue that he was assassinated through

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<v Speaker 1>the use of high tech intelligence agency or world order

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<v Speaker 1>connected weapons, and that his death was either framed as

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<v Speaker 1>a heart attack or that the heart attack itself was

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<v Speaker 1>caused by some sort of suppressed technology, all with the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate end of silencing his voice and preventing him from

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<v Speaker 1>disseminating all or part of the truth of this grand scheme.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, there's a tough thing to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>right here, and it's the concept that there could be

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<v Speaker 2>a strategy. Let's say, if you're an organized group of people,

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<v Speaker 2>whether an intelligence agency or not, and you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>discredit somebody, one way to do that is to attack

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<v Speaker 2>the home structure. That would be a smart play at least.

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<v Speaker 2>And another thing to do is to make it look

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<v Speaker 2>like someone dies of natural causes if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>remove them. So, as we're saying, the rumors float around

0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.160
<v Speaker 2>on the internet about all kinds of things with regards

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<v Speaker 2>to mister Manass's home life and his death, and really,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a ton of background right there. But

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<v Speaker 2>what we want to do now is take a deep

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<v Speaker 2>dive into that which is Project Bluebeam. What was it,

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<v Speaker 2>how did it work or how was it supposed to work?

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<v Speaker 2>And why do some people think it's already happened or

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<v Speaker 2>is about to happen. And we'll talk about that right

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<v Speaker 2>after a word from our sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's where it gets crazy. So there's a plan, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always a plan. Let's walk through what Serge Manas outlines.

0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:35.400
<v Speaker 1>He breaks it down into a series of phases or steps.

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<v Speaker 1>And interestingly enough, you know, I think we've both spent

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time thinking about timeline here. Interestingly enough,

0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:51.800
<v Speaker 1>these steps are not necessarily delineated with you know, concrete

0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:56.720
<v Speaker 1>phases of time, like step one is not necessarily three years,

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, two months, or anything like that. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first is to discredit and or demolish the majority of

0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:13.600
<v Speaker 1>what we would consider religious based archaeological knowledge. This would

0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:17.520
<v Speaker 1>be accomplished again, this is this one person's argument. This

0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:23.320
<v Speaker 1>would be accomplished by faking, manufacturing, or faking earthquakes at

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:28.560
<v Speaker 1>targeted points around the world. And then those earthquakes would

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<v Speaker 1>destroy some things, but they would more importantly appear to

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<v Speaker 1>reveal things faked discoveries at these locations. And that's monos

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<v Speaker 1>phrase there. He says, they would be faked, fake discoveries

0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:48.080
<v Speaker 1>at these locations that would fundamentally disprove existing religious doctrine.

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<v Speaker 1>We've heard about this stuff before, you know, about maybe

0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the early days of the Catholic Church, various documents or

0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:02.040
<v Speaker 1>records being found that were considered heretical to the orthodoxy

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.240
<v Speaker 1>that was agreed upon at Nice or at the Council

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<v Speaker 1>of Verms. So we know that we know that, especially

0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.720
<v Speaker 1>older religions, find things that don't jibe with what they

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:18.480
<v Speaker 1>want the truth to be all the time. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Surgeon monast Is just saying here, this would be weaponized.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's a lot of imagery that's been associated

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<v Speaker 2>with this concept that Manasse puts forward in Project Bluebeam.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, everything from kind of been what you're describing,

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<v Speaker 2>like finding numerous dead sea scrolls in various parts of

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<v Speaker 2>the world that disprove the existing doctrines of Islam and

0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Christianity and Catholicism and all these things. There's another version

0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.320
<v Speaker 2>of it that's a little more sci fi that's like

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<v Speaker 2>a two thousand and one Space Odyssey thing, where you know,

0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.679
<v Speaker 2>a cube of some sort or a rectangle or a

0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:03.040
<v Speaker 2>pylon or something as discovered that appears to you know,

0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:11.960
<v Speaker 2>state somehow represent truths that go back beyond the established

0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 2>religious doctrines. It's just really interesting there, and it no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what version of it you choose to go with

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<v Speaker 2>for this, for this, for this instance, let's go with

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<v Speaker 2>just the numerous Dead Sea scrolls version. The goal here,

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<v Speaker 2>at least in manassview, is to discredit all of the

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<v Speaker 2>existing religions so that we can create a new one, right,

0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and this would be a way to do that. You'd

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<v Speaker 2>want to get rid of the old before bringing in

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<v Speaker 2>the new, or at least get people to doubt just

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<v Speaker 2>enough in their current belief system so that they'd be

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<v Speaker 2>ready or more easily swayed to pick up a new one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I propose that as we go through

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<v Speaker 1>this we talk about some of the arguments for and

0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:02.120
<v Speaker 1>against this plan, just trying to be fair, so first

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<v Speaker 1>not to be you know, negative Nathan about this or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, innumerable examples throughout the span of human history

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<v Speaker 1>show that people are a not easily swayed in matters

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<v Speaker 1>of faith. Changing your faith is such a big deal,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, that many religious figures are primarily famous for

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<v Speaker 1>making that switch. Second, we know that people, even with

0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:38.479
<v Speaker 1>relatively mundane opinions, people tend to dig in and double

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<v Speaker 1>down when they're presented with something that feels like an

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<v Speaker 1>attack or a contradiction of something we already believe. It

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:49.240
<v Speaker 1>could be anything from like which store has the best

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.399
<v Speaker 1>cheese steak in Philadelphia? To which is the one true God?

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<v Speaker 1>Like people do not like changing our minds.

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<v Speaker 3>We're wired not to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And second, even if you could get some people to

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<v Speaker 1>change their opinion or their belief about something so very

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:09.880
<v Speaker 1>profound and personal, it would be virtually impossible to make

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:15.280
<v Speaker 1>every single member of any large religious movement abandoned their faith.

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:20.360
<v Speaker 1>That is something that has literally never happened in the

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 1>history of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's something that has happened. Humans have caused earthquakes.

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:31.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, Nikola Teslo tried it. He wanted it to

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:35.160
<v Speaker 2>be real. Whether or not he was fully successful, we'll

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 2>never know. But we do know that man made earthquakes

0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 2>do happen, So you know that part of the theory

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 2>here could stand up. The problem is the only, at

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<v Speaker 2>least you know, in acknowledged or proven versions of man

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 2>made earthquakes, we've only really seen it kind of happen

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<v Speaker 2>as an accident or as a as a side effect

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<v Speaker 2>of something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, Like the most easily proven cases of manufactured

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 1>earthquakes in the past, I would say past several years

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>at least, have all been the unforeseen consequences of fracking.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, the if you want, if you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to target a specific earthquake, officially, the technology to do

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't exist. What suppressed technology is a whole other,

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a whole other badger in the bag here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and the other thing is you'd have to have

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 2>an earthquake occur that's so targeted to then have something open,

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, be revealed let's say whatever is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be and then it have to be discovered too, So

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have to do it in you know, a somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>populated area to reveal this seing. There's just there are

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of issues with that concept of an earthquake

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<v Speaker 2>then disprove religion with some artifact.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the most straightforward plan, I'll admit, but you're right.

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>So that is one big takeaway. Human beings are proven

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 1>to be capable of creating earthquakes, just maybe not to

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 1>this degree of sophistication. But second, and I'll defer to

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you here, Matt, because I think this is maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Your favorite part.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite's a weird term, but this is the part where

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<v Speaker 1>almost ten years ago now you and I spent a

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<v Speaker 1>couple hours just like just shooting the breeze about this

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.439
<v Speaker 1>one the first time I learned about it. And that

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<v Speaker 1>is what has been called by Manass supporters as well

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>as his critics, step two or phase two of Project

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<v Speaker 1>Bluebeam the space show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is the real show. This is the big deal.

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 2>This is the turning point in the plot. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that makes everybody go, oh no. The concept

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 2>here is that holographic technology, some kind of holograms, three

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 2>dimensional images would be projected across the planet, not just

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 2>in one you know city center, not just in New

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 2>York or you know, Dubai. It would be everywhere, and

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 2>these images would represent whatever the let's say, the primary

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 2>religious figure is in a region. That's what shape this projection,

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>this hologram would take, and they would there would be

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 2>audio associated with it. So from somewhere either projected from

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<v Speaker 2>a satellite that's generally where man Ask believed it would

0:26:55.280 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 2>come from space based satellites with laser technology that's shy

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 2>down essentially onto cloud cover, or just into the moisture

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 2>in the air where the audio coming through would be

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 2>speaking in every language depending on the region, depending on

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 2>the dialect. It would be an all encompassing thing, and

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 2>they would essentially say, you know, the same kind of

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.640
<v Speaker 2>things that were being set up in Phase one, which

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 2>is the old way of thinking, is done. And then

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 2>all of these various you know, prophets, God's sons of gods,

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is that's being worshiped in that region, it

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 2>would merge down into one being, essentially one God, and

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 2>this image that would be created then across the world,

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:50.680
<v Speaker 2>the same image would be the Antichrist, essentially the one

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 2>symbol that would herald in the new world orders Plans.

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<v Speaker 3>Mhm.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct, and it's important to note that the Antichrist

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>here the term is what Surge is using surgemon asks.

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:06.919
<v Speaker 1>But the Antichrist that will appear to these people and

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 1>this theory is not an antagonistic force. It's a force

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 1>of illumination and salvation.

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 3>And this is interesting.

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>So let's go back through pros and cons right, Sokun.

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>There's a big assumption here. We have to remember that

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 1>this is being proposed, This is being sort of like

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>ideated and then proposed in the nineties, but now in

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, secularism is on the rise. Also, you know,

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>would this thing alone, this physical light show alone, be

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>enough to persuade someone that this is actually their God

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>instead of some sort of mental issue of their own,

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>some sort of even whether or not or hallucination. There

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>are other things like what about religious figures that cannot

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>have their form expressed.

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Like one of the great

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 3>one of the.

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Great examples of that is if Project Bluebeam was attempting

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to sway Muslim communities, you know, what, are you going

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>to project the face of Allah? Like do you think

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna work? Because that's pretty explicitly not something that

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>any holy force would do in that belief system. But

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>you'll also see people I think we should stop hearing

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>mat we should say. You'll also see people claiming that

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>there have been various tests or demonstrations of this technology already,

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>like anything that involves light or a lot of stuff

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>that you just see in the sky that appears anomalous,

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>or even real world events.

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, yeah. You'll find things online that state that

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>the attacks of September eleventh, two thousand and one were

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 2>either a the Project bluebeam in action or a test

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>run of projection technology. And while you know, we don't

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 2>necessarily believe this, the concept here is that September eleven,

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one was one of those events that

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 2>really did change the course of history and change, you know,

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the way the United States and other countries viewed a

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of other countries, and it just it had a

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>large effect. And you'll see online people saying that the

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>planes going into the two towers were actually projections. You

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:57.239
<v Speaker 2>can find that all over the internet. You know, there

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>are several other examples, but that's the one that I've

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 2>probably seen most commonly. There are others that state that

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 2>known missile tests that have been seen that were originally

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>reported on as UFO sightings. You may remember the spiral,

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I forget the exact name of it, but like the

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 2>portal that happened to be a couple stages of a

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 2>rocket and the way it looked in the air, that

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>was reportedly some kind of blue beam test, at least

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>again according to online forums and several researchers. I have

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 2>personally not seen anything that I would consider a full

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 2>scale project blue beam test. But again, the whole point

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 2>of it, if it were real, is that we probably

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>couldn't discern whether or not it was a hologram, right, right.

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>And this leads to this leads to the rise of

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>deep fakes as well, because the interesting thing about localized

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>ofs that are then shared online, either in video or

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>still photography, is that people aren't seeing it in person.

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>You're seeing a visual clip that purports to portray something

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>in an accurate manner, and you know, you just can't

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>trust it.

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 3>I wish I had a better answer. You can't trust it.

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>So if anything, people are becoming a little bit more

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:25.239
<v Speaker 1>skeptical about this stuff. So it's it's kind of an

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>argument against this.

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, you're you're absolutely.

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.479
<v Speaker 1>Right the idea that this is all kind of a

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>test run. But manasked to his credit, I would say

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>says that there is a way that people will be

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>reliably influenced by this appearance. It won't just be like

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the Stone Mountain laser show, which is so famous here

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, Georgia, and there are you know, there are

0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>other examples aside from UFOs there. They're like specific, concrete,

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty secular examples. I know, you know one, Matt, and

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I've got one that actually is true, but it was

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>drawing board fase.

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, wasn't there a plan? And Ben, you'll have

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>to forgive me, I'm pulling this from when we did

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>our video way back in the day. But wasn't there

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 2>a plan to possibly project Allah or the prophet Mohammed

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 2>over Baghdad for military purposes?

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yep, that's correct. It was drawing board phase. But

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>there was another plan as well, from Uncle Sam.

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it was.

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Lansdale said, hey, you guys, what if we fake the

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>second Coming of Jesus Christ over Cuba?

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 3>And they're like, why would we do that?

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, well, you know, to overthrow Castro.

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>You could tell that probably came pretty late in their

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>brainstorming session that day. They had gone through the heart

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>attack gun, which will be important later. They had gone

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>through the exploding cigars, weaponizing animals.

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 2>But but you know, we're talking eighties, nineties of seventies

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 2>in some cases, but it's probably closer to the eighties

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 2>and nineties when these things were being discussed.

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's on cocaine, you know what I mean. They were

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>probably seamlessly transitioning to talking about how great their synth

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>albums were going to be.

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yes, but it's also you know, there were

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 2>military minds thinking about this back then, and you know,

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 2>as we're going to talk a little later in this episode,

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the tech has only improved.

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Right, That's correct, So there is there is an explanation,

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 1>though Manass does say that their manask does seem to

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:56.479
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that just seeing something wouldn't be enough to swing

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the needle of people's minds, and that's where you poses

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the existence of psychotronic technology, which we've covered in the past.

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Psychotronic technology is essentially a Russian Soviet originated phrase describing

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the use of technology to amplify psychic powers. Think of

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 1>like menusteric goats would be a popular fictional thing. So

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 1>the idea was they would use certain types of technology

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to give people esp or to give people the ability

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to reach into the minds of others in manesque world.

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Project Bluebeam depends upon a Soviet built computer that would

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 1>be fed with quote minute physiopsychological particulars based on studies

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of anatomy and electro mechanical composition of the human body

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and the studies of the electrical, chemical, and biological properties

0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>of the human brain, and then that every I think

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 1>every single human being on the planet Earth would have

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a specific radio wavelength, that this computerized system would intimately

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>know this biometric data of yours, and that it would

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>use that to affect your reaction. That these computers had

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 1>also furthermore, cut their teeth, cut their mechanical algorithmic teeth

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>on inducing suicide.

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 3>It is true.

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>We know that in our previous research certain frequencies can

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>affect people in astonishing and deeply disturbing ways.

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 3>But for the record, we still have.

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Not proven the existence of the brown note, which I

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>know is a question a lot of our fellow listeners

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 1>had as soon as we mentioned that. But okay, so

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>there we go. That's the thing they're saying. We're gonna

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:59.240
<v Speaker 1>show this huge thing in the sky that will merge

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and become your new God, and then we're going to

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you are through the use of technology.

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>We're going to make sure that you are in a

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>suggestible enough state that you believe it, that you experience

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a revelation, kind of like the god helmet, which gives

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>one the sensation of encountering the divine. But it's weird

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 1>because if it's NASA doing this, as it's commonly proposed

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>in his theories, why would they work with why would

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>they work with the Soviets? Especially when the USSR at

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the time, as far as we know, was pretty far

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 1>behind NASA. In a lot of ways, it's like saying, hey,

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm Sony or a Microsoft, and I've got this

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 1>great plan, but to do it, I need twelve hundred ataris.

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or you know, yeah, I was just going to say,

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 2>working directly with Chinese technology that's competing, Yeah, I can

0:37:56.560 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>just imagine it. It wouldn't it wouldn't work that way,

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.320
<v Speaker 2>but we should we should mention here. By the way,

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't stop there.

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 2>You may think, oh, wait, they're gonna use psychotronics. You say,

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>I remember that episode, I remember that concept. Okay, that's

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 2>we're just like we're spiraling down a conspiracy rabbit hole here.

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 2>It feels like, well, we kind of are in a way,

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 2>but it's just getting a little more complicated because there's

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 2>a sub phase, a step two, like two point two,

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 2>let's say, and in this concept or in this phase,

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>the holograms are going to be used to overthrow the

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 2>world order by here's a quote, setting loose millions of

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:47.439
<v Speaker 2>programmed religious fanatics through demonic possession on a scale never

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 2>witnessed before, never witnessed before. It's an interesting phrase to

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 2>add in there.

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like I like.

0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>That framing, you know, because it's sort of anticipates people

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>in the audience will say, well, I've seen you know,

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I've seen like three or four people possessed by demons.

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's a Tuesday or in Boise, Idaho or something.

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, all of those demonic possessed religious

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 2>fanatics are going to be hearing and the rest of

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 2>us will be hearing as they're running through the streets. Oh,

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 2>we can't play the rest, but you know what that is.

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 2>You've heard that before, that's in your head already.

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 3>What is that?

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:40.240
<v Speaker 1>That is Beethoven's Ode to Joy, the number one most

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 1>popular debut song for Antichrist as far as we know,

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>we did the research, so you know, obviously now we've

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>got we've got an important point that's introduced here. This

0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>has gone from the appearance of the supernatural or the

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:07.359
<v Speaker 1>divine in order to manipulate people to the existence of

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the supernatural. And it's a quick shift. It happens, you know,

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the way that a coin trick happens with a magician.

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to be looking at a lot of sound

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.720
<v Speaker 1>and fury from one side, and then all of a sudden,

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.800
<v Speaker 1>monas hits you with boom. Demons are real, the devil

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>is real, the you know, the infernal powers, or after

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you and your loved ones. I see that as a

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>plot hole because it's not introduced earlier. It's it's a twist,

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and I know there are several plot holes here. But

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>like you said, Matt, we do have examples of We

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>do have examples of intelligence agencies attempting to mess with

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:57.720
<v Speaker 1>people's minds in similar ways in the past. Officially, those

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>results are not near on this level because you know,

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest plot holds to me about this

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.720
<v Speaker 1>is the idea that it affects every single human being

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>on earth at once. That there are very few things,

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>very few things, including pandemics, including nuclear weapons, that affect

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>every single human being on earth at once.

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 2>That is true. And I would say that if you

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 2>could effectively convince enough people, not all people, but enough

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 2>people that this kind of event is occurring, where perhaps

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 2>the rapture is happening, or perhaps the you know, the

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 2>religious figure that you worship every day has come back.

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.839
<v Speaker 2>But that religious figure is, for some reason, not what

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 2>you thought it was, and therefore your religion and entire

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 2>basis of belief is not what you thought it was.

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I can imagine that it could cause at least chaos

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 2>on some level, and you know, pretty widespread chaos if

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 2>you could pull that off.

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I see.

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you don't have to convince everyone. You just have

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 1>to convince a significant almost and market position. But that's

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 1>how it feels. You have to just say, swing a

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 1>significant demographic.

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the thing, though.

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>When these people see this god in the sky, they're

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna hear ode to joy. But that's not all they're

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>going to hear. They're going to hear something else. Manasse proposes.

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that after a word from our sponsor.

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>We're in the thick of it, conspiracy realists. We're on

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the third step of Project Bluebeam, the third phase, which

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 1>would be what Manast calls telepathic electronic two way communication.

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 1>This would be through the use of extremely low frequency

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 1>radio waves, the conveyance of a message into people's minds

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 1>such that this thing they're seeing in the sky appears

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>to be directly speaking to them in their language and

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:22.280
<v Speaker 1>saying the same message, you know, and in any language

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in the world, all the way from the biggest ones

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 1>like Mandarin to you know, very small dialects of isolated tribes.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.399
<v Speaker 1>As you can imagine, that doesn't really hold up when

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you get to those smaller dialects, some of which are dying,

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:44.399
<v Speaker 1>some of which don't have any any speakers who can

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 1>really translate other than the like three two hundred and

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 1>fifty in some cases ten people who know them. So

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a plot hole and manesse explanation doesn't. It doesn't

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>really bear up to what we know about the technology now,

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and his even if we relegate it to the realm

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>of speculation, his explanation of how this would work still

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>leaves a lot to be desired.

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's just my opinion.

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it does. Conceptually, the way I understand it,

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 2>it's that there would be small hidden microchips in a

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 2>lot of the electronics that exist in everyday life within

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, like a city situation or a suburban situation

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 2>where there's a lot of tech around. The concept is

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 2>that all those things are numerous, you know, numerous technologies

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 2>are going to be in some way communing, communicating to

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:50.760
<v Speaker 2>you through these essentially low frequency waves.

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe another thing that kind of connects back to this

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 2>one is the concept that the computer is going to

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 2>know everything about you, right, That's one of his major

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.240
<v Speaker 2>one of man asked major things is that the government

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 2>is keeping track of everything you're doing, or some corporate

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 2>entity or entities are keeping track of all your information.

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 2>It's being stored and tracked, and then it will be

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 2>used to control you by talking to you in familiar

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:23.280
<v Speaker 2>or about familiar things within your life. Maybe in nineteen

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 2>ninety four that's a pretty hard stretch, but if you're

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty, the concept that a small handful of

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 2>corporations knows a lot about your life, very specific details

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 2>about your life, that's not much of a stretch at all.

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that's an excellent point, absolutely. I mean that

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.319
<v Speaker 1>part's one of the things as the highest likelihood of

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>being true, honestly, for people who live, especially in very

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>technologically dense parts of the world, you know, or who

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 1>have authoritarian governments, don't don't let the big don't let

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>big brother be out.

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 5>Of the game.

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not just target that's targeting you. I could have

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 1>phrased that better, but you get you know, I could

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.919
<v Speaker 1>have you get the drift. So there we go. Now

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>we're at step four. Step four is the penultimate or

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>second to ultimate part. Step four is more like four

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>A four B four C. Manasa says. The next part

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:31.320
<v Speaker 1>is to say is to have this divine thing essentially

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>warn people that these revelations are occurring because there is

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 1>an outside enemy attacking humanity entire. An alien invasion is

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:47.440
<v Speaker 1>going to occur at every major city concurrently somehow at

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the same time, uh those who still cling to Christianity,

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 1>which he specifically mentions Christianity at this point, He says,

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 1>those who still cling to Christianity are going to be

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:01.240
<v Speaker 1>made to believe that the apture is about to occur,

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:07.799
<v Speaker 1>and then a marriage of electronic and supernatural read infernal

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:17.240
<v Speaker 1>forces will will occur such that these supernatural forces demons,

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, creatures of ill intent, will be able to

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 1>travel through fiber optics, travel through I don't know at

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>this stage, like HDMI cables, Wi Fi routers, telephone lines.

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Bluetooth is another one. Yeah, to penetrate all the electronic equipment,

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 1>all the appliances, even unto your smart refrigerator and your fitbit,

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and that by then they will all have a special

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 1>microchip installed allowing this to happen again. If we bracket

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the supernatural aspects of this. We know that for a

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 1>very long time, without the public's knowledge, various tech companies

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 1>were attempting to build dedicated chips or software based backdoors

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 1>into their technology. That's one of the reasons why Chinese

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:12.399
<v Speaker 1>manufacturer Hue is having so much is taking so much

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:17.280
<v Speaker 1>international flak because they do at backdoors that the Chinese

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>government can use. The thing is, they're not using those

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 1>to spread demonic messages. They're using those for industrial and

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 1>state level espionage, right. And you know it's foolish if

0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:30.959
<v Speaker 1>you think the US and other countries aren't pressuring their

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>own private entities to do the same thing. That's just

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that's day one stuff, buddy. That's how you run the world.

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:42.399
<v Speaker 2>That's right, Ben. I have to tell you just to

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 2>jump away just slightly. We're talking about, you know, using

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 2>all of the tech within our own homes against us,

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 2>right or wherever we are using the tech against us

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 2>in some way. Just in the research of this, as

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 2>I was looking back through things and trying to find

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 2>examples specifically of holographic technology I found. I just stumbled

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 2>upon this thing and it really freaked me out. I'm

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 2>just going to tell you about it really fast, just

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 2>because I want you to imagine this as you're listening everybody.

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 2>There's an article within Business Insider from twenty seventeen, from

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:30.320
<v Speaker 2>May thirtieth, so roughly three years ago. It's about research

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 2>into using a somebody's Wi Fi signal, anybody's Wi Fi

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:42.920
<v Speaker 2>signal within a structure, and then an exterior antenna somewhere

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:46.840
<v Speaker 2>on the outside of the structure, and using this antenna

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 2>to pick up the Wi Fi signal and scan the

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 2>interior of a building to where you could literally see

0:49:55.760 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>major objects or people that are within that building. And

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say, when we're when I'm thinking

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 2>about mister Manas's vision of all of these things, all

0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:11.880
<v Speaker 2>of these technologies fighting back against us, I just didn't

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:15.399
<v Speaker 2>think I would have this picture in my mind of

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 2>my Wi Fi signal that I know is at all

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 2>times sending out you know, energy in wavelength form, throughout

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 2>my house, through me, through you know, my family's body

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and everything, and it could be if you had the

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.759
<v Speaker 2>right equipment, it could just be read like any other

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:40.479
<v Speaker 2>signal and interpreted as it bounces off of things. Sorry,

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I know that has really nothing to do with this.

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 3>It's just.

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I I would have never thought to use it in

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:53.359
<v Speaker 2>that way. There are people that are paid lots and

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 2>lots of money to think of ways to use the

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:59.240
<v Speaker 2>signals that are being generated, you know, on a consumer

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 2>level basis, in ways that were not intended for them

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 2>to be used for the benefit a lot of times

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 2>for military or intelligence purposes.

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, one hundred percent agree. You know, it's

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the way you can use laser too.

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 1>You can aim a laser at a window, Paine, and

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 1>from the vibrations of the window, pain you can tell

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 1>what people are talking about inside, right.

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:27.239
<v Speaker 4>You can.

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can generate audio essentially.

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>You can generate audio. Yeah, I mean all things are energy.

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>It's arguably at a certain level, it's just a matter

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of translation of that energy from one form of expression

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to another.

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:41.399
<v Speaker 3>Which is.

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Sounds smart enough that I'm sure someone else set that

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 1>better end earlier, But.

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 3>I agree with it.

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 1>This is where we Okay, so this is where we

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 1>get to the new world order. These described new world

0:51:56.640 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 1>order is a lot like saying chair, or cancer or candy.

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:06.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's an umbrella term that describes a lot

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:09.840
<v Speaker 1>of things, and sometimes people agree when they throw around

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:13.400
<v Speaker 1>this nWo term until they find out the specifics of

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:16.720
<v Speaker 1>what they're talking about. So it's important to note Monast

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:21.720
<v Speaker 1>is not just talking about a secular one world order

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 1>here or one world government. He's not talking about the

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of globalist problem you might hear folks argue about

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:35.759
<v Speaker 1>a warrant against an other conspiratorial viewpoints. He's saying that

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:38.960
<v Speaker 1>all people will be required to take an oath to

0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Lucifer to the Devil Lucifer morning Star, and undergo a

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:46.359
<v Speaker 1>ritual initiation to become members of the New World Order.

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Anyone who resists will encounter the following. Christian children, he says,

0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 1>will be kept for the purposes of human sacrifice, or

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:59.399
<v Speaker 1>they will be or they will be abused. Prisoners will

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 1>be used in medical experiments. That's already happening.

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Check.

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Prisoners will be used as living Oregon banks. I know

0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:11.399
<v Speaker 1>I probably shouldn't be as explicit about this, but that's

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 1>already happening. Check at least in some countries. Healthy workers

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 1>used in slave labor. That's already happening, that's been happening

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 1>check and said that prisoners who seem like they're on

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the line, who say like, well, you know, Lucifer seems cool,

0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:31.160
<v Speaker 1>but I'm only like ninety two percent on board, they'll

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 1>be sent to re education centers where they will be

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 1>have to repent on television and glorify the New World Order.

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Then there will be an international execution center.

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 3>And then he alludes to.

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:46.399
<v Speaker 1>A classification of other people. But he never got into

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:51.319
<v Speaker 1>it before, or there hasn't been any published matter on

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:55.359
<v Speaker 1>it before that. He himself wrote, so you can see

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:56.719
<v Speaker 1>all the problems here.

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, there are a lot of problems there, and

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 2>it reads a lot like visions of revelations from the

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Bible or visions of an apocalypse right where this ritual

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 2>to worship Lucifer in this case, as he's described, it

0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:14.839
<v Speaker 2>could be that whole six sixty sixth thing that he's

0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 2>already talked about with the Mason group that he's discussed,

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the possible that that insignia would have to be placed

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:28.320
<v Speaker 2>on the human body in some way, just that complete

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and utter worship of this one person or deity or

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:37.359
<v Speaker 2>whatever it ends up being in this you know, in

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 2>this scenario, it sounds just an awful lot like the

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:45.240
<v Speaker 2>apocalypse that's been described elsewhere. But yeah, yeah, the problems

0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 2>are rampant here, I think.

0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the problems are rampant. And on one thing that,

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:54.920
<v Speaker 1>of course you have to ask yourself about is where

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:56.240
<v Speaker 1>does this all come from?

0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:56.759
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:54:57.040 --> 0:55:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Where's the provenance of manass ideas?

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Because they seem very out there.

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:10.000
<v Speaker 1>These are extraordinary claims, and extraordinary claims typically require a

0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 1>higher level of a higher burden of proof. Gotta have

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>more evidence, right, But there's very little in the way

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 1>of solid sources. In fact, Manass's original book that he

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:26.759
<v Speaker 1>published with this in France, it's very difficult to get

0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:29.719
<v Speaker 1>a copy of it now. It's almost actually it's kind

0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of impossible. You might see a couple on eBay or

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe Amazon or something uninflated price. But I would also

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 1>be very very cautious. I would be I would assume

0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:46.840
<v Speaker 1>that those aren't the actual books. I would assume they

0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 1>might be scams or maybe something being sold under false pretenses.

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, it's hard.

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:57.400
<v Speaker 1>To get a lot of the sources here, but we

0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>have found some interesting things about where his ideas may

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:04.240
<v Speaker 1>have come from. We don't know, if you read The Watchman,

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, and later encountered that in

0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:10.879
<v Speaker 1>his own thoughts. As far as we can tell, he

0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:14.959
<v Speaker 1>never explicitly said, you know, I got this idea from

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:16.320
<v Speaker 1>some cool fiction I read.

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 3>But we also know.

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:24.680
<v Speaker 1>That right before he gave his famous lecture on Project Bluebeam,

0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Gene Roddenberry entered the chat in a weird way.

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a book that was written by Joel Engel.

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 2>It's about Gene Roddenberry. It's called Gene Roddenberry, The Myth

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 2>and the Man behind Star Trek. It came out in

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:45.320
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety four, just before manass lecture on Project Bluebeam,

0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 2>which became the book, and we've got a quote from

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:51.200
<v Speaker 2>it here he goes. In May nineteen seventy five, gen

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Roddenberry accepted an offer from Paramount to develop Star Trek

0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 2>into a feature film. That's awesome. I'm glad that that

0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 2>whole thing happened. This is Matt off Off quote back

0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to the quote, and moved back into his old office

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 2>on the Paramount lot. His proposed story told of a

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:11.400
<v Speaker 2>flying saucer hovering above earth that was programmed to send

0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 2>down people who looked like prophets. Including Jesus Christ.

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:57:17.680 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 2>So you know, we can't sit here and tell you

0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 2>today that Sergeman asked, like pulled anything directly from this

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 2>book or from you know, maybe he heard about this

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 2>story before the book came out. We cannot tell you

0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:34.360
<v Speaker 2>that because we do not know. But it's definitely a

0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 2>pretty similar thing there from one of the great sci

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:41.120
<v Speaker 2>fi writers of our time.

0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they're very similar. They're really similar. They are

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:48.880
<v Speaker 3>very similar.

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:51.480
<v Speaker 2>But they're not holograms, Ben, But.

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:54.200
<v Speaker 1>They're not holograms, Matt. Yeah, you check a mate on

0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that one. Brow. I will say in support of that

0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that we know hologram technologies advanced leaps and bounds. It's

0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 1>just as far as we know, it's not where it's

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 1>not where manass thought it was yet officially. Secondly, just

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:14.520
<v Speaker 1>from the way that this is written, the acceptance of

0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 1>this theory requires the acceptance of an Islamic, Judaic, or

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Christian worldview, the idea that the ancient former first of

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the Angels is indeed real, is super into technology and

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 1>has spent a lot of time making an extraordinarily complicated

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:46.080
<v Speaker 1>plan with a lot of potential fail points, you know

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 3>And also for this idea.

0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:54.160
<v Speaker 1>There's a I think there's an inherent you know, it's

0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a tool that fascism uses a lot. The idea here

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 1>is that the enemy must be at the same time

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:08.320
<v Speaker 1>portrayed as immensely powerful but also inherently incredibly weak.

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:09.439
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 1>This is surprisingly prevalent in manass idea of Project Bluebeam,

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:23.360
<v Speaker 1>that there is this incredibly powerful, evil supernatural force, but

0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that it has to rely but it's so weak, it

0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:31.160
<v Speaker 1>has to rely on these various other things. Also the

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:36.400
<v Speaker 1>implication that there is a tremendously good supernatural force that

0:59:36.520 --> 0:59:41.680
<v Speaker 1>is tremendously powerful and in most religious world views omnipotent, right,

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:47.240
<v Speaker 1>all powerful, but that this entity itself could be laid

0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:54.800
<v Speaker 1>low by technology. It's from a folkloric perspective. It is fascinating.

0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:58.880
<v Speaker 1>But there is one thing we have to talk about

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:02.520
<v Speaker 1>before we end the show that we can't skip over,

1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's one thing that's still still on my mind, Matt.

1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:12.800
<v Speaker 1>The death of Surge benast Right. We know that officially

1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:15.720
<v Speaker 1>he's a heart attack after a terrible night in jail,

1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:19.960
<v Speaker 1>who's aged fifty one. You know, it's not It's never

1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:22.320
<v Speaker 1>a good thing when someone gets a heart attack, but

1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:26.400
<v Speaker 1>they can happen increasingly as you age, and he's in

1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:30.800
<v Speaker 1>his fifties. Maybe he wasn't taking care of himself. But

1:00:31.240 --> 1:00:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you remember this. Going back to Castro, when we did

1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:38.120
<v Speaker 1>research on this, the CIA did significant work on a

1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:42.080
<v Speaker 1>prototype heart attack gun, a point and click.

1:00:43.480 --> 1:00:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Heart attack gun.

1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's even a I remember a video of

1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:50.640
<v Speaker 2>a prototype showing something very similar to that. There's all

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:56.840
<v Speaker 2>kinds of proposed intelligence agency weaponry that's been shown in public,

1:00:57.160 --> 1:01:04.640
<v Speaker 2>and way more that's never been publicly acknowledged. That is

1:01:05.080 --> 1:01:11.720
<v Speaker 2>for certain. That's a problem for anybody who dies basically

1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:16.320
<v Speaker 2>that talks about dangerous things, because there's always the possibility then,

1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:20.360
<v Speaker 2>or at least the fear that this person was killed

1:01:20.920 --> 1:01:25.440
<v Speaker 2>or assassinated by a group that has whatever that technology

1:01:25.440 --> 1:01:29.640
<v Speaker 2>could be. It's really a situation where it makes the

1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:33.400
<v Speaker 2>end user the thinker you in this case, it makes

1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:37.160
<v Speaker 2>it gives you doubt about the official story, but it

1:01:37.240 --> 1:01:43.480
<v Speaker 2>also simultaneously makes you perhaps doubt the unofficial story. It's

1:01:43.520 --> 1:01:47.720
<v Speaker 2>an odd situation. It creates a lot of uncertainty, I think,

1:01:48.440 --> 1:01:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and to my mind, this is that's what this entire

1:01:52.000 --> 1:01:55.160
<v Speaker 2>thing does. That's what Project Bluebeam does for me personally.

1:01:55.600 --> 1:02:00.400
<v Speaker 2>If aliens attack, for sure of extraterrestrials of any form

1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:03.400
<v Speaker 2>or creed, you know, attack the earth or invade the

1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:08.320
<v Speaker 2>earth tomorrow, I'm gonna think first then it's some kind

1:02:08.320 --> 1:02:11.800
<v Speaker 2>of holographic technology, just because I'm aware of this thing.

1:02:12.040 --> 1:02:14.080
<v Speaker 2>And that doesn't mean I believe that's what it is,

1:02:14.280 --> 1:02:16.400
<v Speaker 2>but that's what I'm That's my first thought. Is gonna

1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:20.240
<v Speaker 2>be oh, Seerchman asked Project Blueberry, Project bluebe right there.

1:02:22.280 --> 1:02:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I think this kind of thinking it just has that

1:02:25.920 --> 1:02:28.760
<v Speaker 2>effect on the individual, perhaps.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it is our duties human beings to question everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It is your personal choice whether you wish to accept

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<v Speaker 1>certain things on faith alone. Again, that's your choice. But

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to I mean, I mean you know it,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say I am definitely in the former camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I do question most things. But also, you know, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be very careful to avoid being smug about people who

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<v Speaker 1>make faith based decisions, because even if you think you

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<v Speaker 1>are tremendously skeptical, even if you think you are an

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<v Speaker 1>atheist and blah blah blah, I guarantee you you accept

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<v Speaker 1>so many ridiculous things on faith. You get in that

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<v Speaker 1>car you hop on the interstate. You're just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>taking it as an article of faith that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna die maybe sometime, but not this time. We all,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we all exercise our agency in that liminal

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<v Speaker 1>space between what is proven and what we wish to

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<v Speaker 1>be true.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the last thing I'm gonna say, Ben, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is correct. You'll have to check me here.

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<v Speaker 2>That Monast's last before he died, his last prediction about

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<v Speaker 2>when this whole thing would go down was in the

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<v Speaker 2>year two thousand, the turn of the millennium. That's right, correct, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just gonna put these things together really fast.

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<v Speaker 2>In that year, same year that he predicted it would occur,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a report from Project for a New American

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<v Speaker 2>Century that came out that said, much like Watchmen, much

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<v Speaker 2>like what's described in Project Bluebeam, we needed a new

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<v Speaker 2>Pearl Harbor in order to unite the people in a

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<v Speaker 2>common in you know, at this at that point within

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<v Speaker 2>that report, the common goal was to unite against an

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<v Speaker 2>enemy of some sort. And of course the Project for

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<v Speaker 2>New American Century is aimed directly at the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>but you could imagine it being an enemy that all

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<v Speaker 2>humanity could fight against, ie, some kind of extraterrestrial force

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, it's something that's similar to what's described

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<v Speaker 2>by Mineste. Just putting that out there because they put

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<v Speaker 2>that in two thousand and we know what happened in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 1>False flags are real. That's just that's an historical fact. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing worth debating in that world or in

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, in that area of conversation, is which

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<v Speaker 1>things are in fact false flags. But anyone denying the

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<v Speaker 1>existence of those sort of things right now is being.

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<v Speaker 3>Willfully ignorant.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is not us saying that nine to eleven

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<v Speaker 2>was a false flag. That is I'm just saying they exist,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will say it too. False flags are real. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Well, I don't know, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to end this on. Ben that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the we're talking about hologram hologram technology, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>just encourage everybody to go through use duck duck go

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever search engine. I would, you know, encourage you

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<v Speaker 2>to use Duck duck go because they still acknowledge our

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel. But you know, look at some of the

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<v Speaker 2>tech that's being developed right now that some of it

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<v Speaker 2>is available, some of it is just on the cusp

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<v Speaker 2>of being available to consumers. And at the levels that

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<v Speaker 2>it exists right now, you can totally imagine that a

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<v Speaker 2>projected hologram into cloud cover or just the moisture in

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<v Speaker 2>the lower atmosphere could be a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd also like to hear, like to get a

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<v Speaker 1>gauge of the optimism the pessimism amongst our fellow listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>because I am convinced that due to longtime listeners you

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<v Speaker 1>know this, I'm convinced that, due to hardwired physiological constraints

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<v Speaker 1>in the human brain, there's no way we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get billions of people to cooperate on anything that I like.

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<v Speaker 1>What would be something that would unite everybody? Because I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you this is going to make me sound like

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<v Speaker 1>a jerk, map, but I'll tell you if there were

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<v Speaker 1>an actual alien invasion, everyone knew what was coming. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knew that genocide was on the menu for every forget

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<v Speaker 1>Homo sapiens, for every primate on the planet. I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>you right now, it is my opinion that there would

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<v Speaker 1>be millions of.

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<v Speaker 3>People who would be on board with.

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<v Speaker 1>The aliens, and there were you know, they would say, look, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's better.

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<v Speaker 3>They got some great points. You know, I think really

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<v Speaker 3>we should roll out the red carpet.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know, man, I'm feeling very pessimistic nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>But we want to hear what you think, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and we want to say, like, you know, maybe we've

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<v Speaker 1>been treating this. We don't mean to treat it dismissively.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that there are a lot of there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fail points for that plan, by which

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<v Speaker 1>I mean things that could go wrong, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of explanations that Manasse never really provided, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that seem like leaps right. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>he loves Project Bluebeam. He's had enough, so let us

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<v Speaker 1>let us know your thoughts. As always, we hope this

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<v Speaker 1>episode finds you safe when doing as well as can

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<v Speaker 1>be possible in these days. We can't wait to hear

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<v Speaker 1>what those are, and you can call us directly.

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<v Speaker 2>We are one eight three three std WYTK leave us

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<v Speaker 2>a message, talk to us about anything. You got three

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<v Speaker 2>minutes to do it. Try and limit it to like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one or two, maximum three messages in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>just because they're a lot. We been I haven't checked

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<v Speaker 2>them in a while, and we're back up to like

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<v Speaker 2>seventy that I have to check. So you and I

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<v Speaker 2>need to split that up and get on it asap.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, please continue to call in. We want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear from you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be on it. I'll be on it too.

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