WEBVTT - Player’s Lounge: Lead By Example

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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<v Speaker 1>Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and Newie Strugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboy Nation.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello and welcome to the Players Lounge sponsored by Tositos,

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<v Speaker 3>the official chip in Dip of the Dallas Cowboys, and

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<v Speaker 3>you are now rocking with the best. I'm Chmaharrison and

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<v Speaker 3>as always, we can't form votron because one Newie Shrugs

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<v Speaker 3>is in Oxnar. But this is as close as they get.

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<v Speaker 3>I got two former Cowboys safeties, Very Church, Danny McCrae

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<v Speaker 3>is at the desk, and man, we have a great

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<v Speaker 3>show playing today. The fellas you know what I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna check on it's been alone. It's been a

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<v Speaker 3>long time since I seen you there. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 3>been in a couple of days, by the way, man,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been about a week.

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<v Speaker 4>But to answer your question, heck how you My mentals

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<v Speaker 4>are great.

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<v Speaker 2>Mentals are great, man.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to my first Rangers game yesterday for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time ever.

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<v Speaker 2>The indoor.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lovely experience, something to take the family too.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was cool. It was cool all the way

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<v Speaker 2>up there.

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<v Speaker 4>I was up there. I think I was like one

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two or something that game. But it was a

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<v Speaker 4>good vantage point.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to see everything. Knew it. Don't believe that

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay. Nobody knew.

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<v Speaker 3>He gave him the he gave him the tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Danny, how are you, brother? I'm good man, I'm good man. Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having a great time, you know, being a dad life,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and I'm and I'm seeing you take care

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<v Speaker 3>of yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, So apple day, keep it, keep it out though

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<v Speaker 2>way man.

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<v Speaker 3>I have my apple, had my yoga, trying to do

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get like newie man, trying to get like

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<v Speaker 3>newie newie.

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<v Speaker 2>How is ox Star treating you? Brother?

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<v Speaker 3>From come on, I'll ask.

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<v Speaker 4>You how you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey? This is loved.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't hear Frouds for a second.

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<v Speaker 6>All these all the all these folks who come around here,

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<v Speaker 6>these these signals have interrupted me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fine, guys, I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing better than Tristan Viscay, you know, because I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is the players lounge, and we're gonna keep

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<v Speaker 3>it playing since we know, since we since we checked mentals,

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<v Speaker 3>and we see that Newie's mentals are right. They need

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<v Speaker 3>to be. Hey, give us the news and notes. They're

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<v Speaker 3>an Oxnar Newie.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 6>So Saturday was an abysmal performance by the kickers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>it was bad between Tristan Viscay you know, and and

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<v Speaker 6>Brandon Arbors. They ended up cutting this guyino today. So

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<v Speaker 6>Brandon is now the kicker. He's going to be able

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<v Speaker 6>to go into the Jacksonville game and handle all the

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<v Speaker 6>kicking duties. Mike McCarthy, the dead coach, who's asked today

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<v Speaker 6>the press conference, so why not bringing a veteran And

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<v Speaker 6>he's like, well, we want to give we want to

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<v Speaker 6>give Brandon reps and see what he can do. So

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<v Speaker 6>this guy is kicking in the USFL. He's from Plano,

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<v Speaker 6>so he's a local kid. He's gonna Basically what I

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<v Speaker 6>got from Mike was he deserves the opportunity to fail.

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<v Speaker 6>So come Jacksonville, we'll see what he does all week long.

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<v Speaker 6>He's gonna have his opportunity. But when the crowd was

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<v Speaker 6>out here booing these guys and then when they ended

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<v Speaker 6>up did make it a kick?

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<v Speaker 4>They gave him that that New York.

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<v Speaker 6>Yankee side clap, like, okay, but look, you should be worried. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>if it's right now going into the Giants game, your

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<v Speaker 6>biggest concern is who's gonna make the extra points and

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<v Speaker 6>field goals on Sunday Night football, because.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now that answer is not clear at all for

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<v Speaker 4>the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 3>If you didn't know, Hodge Vis Kuyino was cut today

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<v Speaker 3>and now we know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But also newly the position battles that obviously we're hearing

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<v Speaker 3>about back at home that are playing out down there. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>talk about what you're seeing because obviously a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people are writing about a lot of different positions on

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<v Speaker 3>both sides of the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 6>So one of the questions and the only question asked

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<v Speaker 6>Mike McCarthy about today, is how should we view this

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<v Speaker 6>offensive line and what we're seeing? And he said, obviously

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<v Speaker 6>he doesn't have you know his five yet for to

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<v Speaker 6>just start the season.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, that's still developing.

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<v Speaker 6>Says, right now the defense is ahead of the offensive

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<v Speaker 6>line that got a lot of different combinations, and he

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<v Speaker 6>says that's good for development. So he's looking at getting

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<v Speaker 6>guys reps and and look at times and reasons I

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<v Speaker 6>asked the questions. Sometimes it doesn't look real pretty. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 6>you got some defensive players, you know, like Osa and

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<v Speaker 6>and you got Micah back here getting after dudes, and

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<v Speaker 6>so you look at the offensive line and you're like, okay, let's.

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<v Speaker 4>See where it goes.

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<v Speaker 6>So basically, with a new offensive line coach, let's just

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<v Speaker 6>give it time. By the way, Michael Parsons did say

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<v Speaker 6>that that Tyron.

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<v Speaker 4>Smith is really still good.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I mean he's really he's really good because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>people put that video out there.

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<v Speaker 4>You know he kind of kind of kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Of got by tire just a little bit, just a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit out there, but you know, Tyed, he's sitting there.

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<v Speaker 4>Tyre's still a monster. Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>So for certain people on this show that are always

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<v Speaker 6>trying to find something negative towards that find usc Trojan,

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<v Speaker 6>just understand Mike Carson said, he's still really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy, I'm trying to find did I post the video? Dah,

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<v Speaker 3>you ain't posted was out there for the rep No, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just asking, okay, have I listen. I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 3>no longer active in the NFL. Okay, so I don't

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<v Speaker 3>play any games. I'm real close to top Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean out to play the left now, I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kidding. Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>If Tyron is healthy, as I've always said, he is

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<v Speaker 3>still a top notch player. When he's on the field

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<v Speaker 3>and he's healthy, he's still a top notched player. The

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<v Speaker 3>only issue that I had what iron over the last

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<v Speaker 3>few years, specifically starting with Adrian Clayborne in the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 3>Falcons game when Tyron went out and we saw the

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<v Speaker 3>impact that it had on us, and then continuously year

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<v Speaker 3>after year after year when Tyron goes out, we have

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<v Speaker 3>the same problem. So that's my only issue with with

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<v Speaker 3>that of like the health factor, not his ability to

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<v Speaker 3>play yet what mikel did to him. That happens sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>especially since you get a little older. You know, somebody

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<v Speaker 3>get the best of you every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 3>But I still think he's a good player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely think you know, Tyren's you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna call him, you know, a top five tackle in

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<v Speaker 3>the game right now, but I'll give him top ten,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when healthy, I still think he has the

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<v Speaker 3>capabilities of being a standout player.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there, and let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Michael Parsons has done that to a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of offensive tackles International Football League. He's a premier edge

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<v Speaker 3>rusher and he's just showing how great he is as

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<v Speaker 3>a talent. So hopefully, you know, Tyron Smith can stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>But the question I want to ask you knew he is.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard a lot of reports out of camp about

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Tobert and he's actually he been stepping up and

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<v Speaker 3>playing halfway decent out there in camp, starting to get

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of separation. Can you see from the

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<v Speaker 3>sidelines where you're at, can you see him taking that

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<v Speaker 3>next step and maybe even capturing that wide receiver for

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<v Speaker 3>position out there.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna stand on my soapbox just a little bit here,

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<v Speaker 6>just a little bit when I said earlier this year

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<v Speaker 6>that if I'm Jalen Tolbert, I stick next to Dak.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm there by four and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 6>be wherever he is. And apparently that is what's happened.

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<v Speaker 6>He has stuck by Dak Prescott. Brian Schottenheimer. Also head

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<v Speaker 6>coach Mike McCarthy said there's not a day where that

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<v Speaker 6>young man has not been there in the building, trying

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<v Speaker 6>to work, trying to get better. And one of the

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<v Speaker 6>things I have an appreciation for is he owned last year.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, he said I wasn't where I needed to be.

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<v Speaker 6>So he has made that jump and people talk about

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<v Speaker 6>it and Danny, you went through it, bar you went through it.

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<v Speaker 6>That jumped from your first year to your second year.

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<v Speaker 6>He has a better understanding of what he needs to do.

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<v Speaker 6>I think maybe some people forgot that he came out

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<v Speaker 6>of South Alabama and might not have been ready for

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<v Speaker 6>what this NFL life entails. So so far, the young

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<v Speaker 6>man is doing his part. I would tell you I

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<v Speaker 6>feel better about his future than I do about let's

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<v Speaker 6>say a Kelvin Joseph number two draft pick they made

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of years ago. And what I think Jalen

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<v Speaker 6>Tobert can be special teams. He's gonna have to show

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<v Speaker 6>us what he can do. Done a little bit there,

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<v Speaker 6>some practice, but Saturday night is gonna be huge for

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<v Speaker 6>a guy like Jalen Tolbert's gonna be huge for a

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<v Speaker 6>guy like like Kelvin Joseph to show us what you

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<v Speaker 6>learn is it gonna translate on the football field?

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<v Speaker 4>And so so.

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<v Speaker 6>Far, they're saying all the right things about about mister Tobert.

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<v Speaker 6>What you're seeing. I think he has improved where he

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<v Speaker 6>was from last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that good enough?

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<v Speaker 6>Is that gonna be better than the kids from South

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<v Speaker 6>Carolina Brooks that they all enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think Saturday is going to be a big.

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<v Speaker 6>Tail for a lot of guys, because I gotta call

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<v Speaker 6>it all Oxnarch. A lot of dudes will look good

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<v Speaker 6>out here at ox start on these practice fields, but

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<v Speaker 6>can you do it when.

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<v Speaker 4>The lights are on at at and T Stadium.

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<v Speaker 6>That's where you're going to see some guys step up,

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<v Speaker 6>and you're going to see some guys that trink. Mike

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<v Speaker 6>McCarthy spoke about how he's not even looking at his FITU.

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<v Speaker 6>He's like, I don't have the fifty three man roster

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<v Speaker 6>in my mindset. I don't even go through it, he said,

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<v Speaker 6>because I know there's gonna be some guys that go

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<v Speaker 6>out here on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 4>Night and make you say WHOA. And I think Mike's

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent right about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a question for you, Knui, just because I've

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<v Speaker 3>been I've been reading and hearing that there's been a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of ones versus ones out there training counts all right,

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<v Speaker 3>and we all get to see, of course, because the

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<v Speaker 3>media is gonna blow it out of proportion that Dak

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<v Speaker 3>is throwing interceptions, whatever whatever is going on. What are

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<v Speaker 3>you seeing out there when because you get to see

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<v Speaker 3>it in its entirety?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you seeing from Dak?

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<v Speaker 3>As far as does he look different based on the

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<v Speaker 3>changes that are made with Mike McCarthy calling the plays

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<v Speaker 3>now versus Killen Moore? Is he trying to figure it out?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is he just really smooth? And the and the

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<v Speaker 3>internet is just finding those you know, those practice players

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<v Speaker 3>where the defense gets the best of the offense.

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<v Speaker 6>I we all play fantasy football here. I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>about heck, but you know that we play. Go get

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<v Speaker 6>him early, Okay, go get him okay because last years,

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<v Speaker 6>as much as people pointed the finger at him, outside

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<v Speaker 6>of CD Lamb, it was the Madies.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not that case anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>Cede Lamb has gotten better, believe it or not, he's

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<v Speaker 6>gotten better.

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<v Speaker 4>Brandon Cooks, he's just good.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember talking to uh to Al Harris and we're asking, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>what is Brandon Cooks bring? He's like happen speed man.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a really really good football player. And then then

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<v Speaker 6>you got Michael Gallup, who's comfortable out here making one

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<v Speaker 6>hand catches. So just the players around Dak at the

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<v Speaker 6>wide receiver position are better.

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<v Speaker 4>Who you know, Gallup could be receiving a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>one on one coverage.

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<v Speaker 6>If Cook stays healthy, and if Lamb is just the

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<v Speaker 6>guy we've seen out here at camp continuing to get better,

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<v Speaker 6>you gotta.

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<v Speaker 4>Watching Michael Galla. We go watch Jake Ferguson running around.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, basically unchecked or just you know, just just

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<v Speaker 6>having men on man coverage.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's why I said, man, go get go, get yourself.

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<v Speaker 6>Dak Prescott last year, Jalen Hurts was a guy went

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<v Speaker 6>and got fantasy. In fact, I got Jalen Hurts the

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<v Speaker 6>last two years Dak Prescott. That and you know watching

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<v Speaker 6>Dak even run run some bootlegs here in the k.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm just gonna tell you, man, anybody worried, if

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<v Speaker 6>you if you worried about Dak Prescott, then you probably

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<v Speaker 6>are watching too much of these these debate shows. This

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<v Speaker 6>this guy looks good out here, and you need help.

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<v Speaker 6>Why did Jalen Hurts have the year he had because

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<v Speaker 6>they gave him some help. Why is Tua looking good

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<v Speaker 6>last year because they gave him some dog on help.

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<v Speaker 6>Dak didn't have it last year. People like, oh, he's

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<v Speaker 6>not this, he's not that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry. How you supposed to win with James Washington.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody went with James Washington? No, So, so what you're

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<v Speaker 3>saying is the new play caller. Okay, looks like it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a positive.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, man, I hate to tell you Barry Church.

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<v Speaker 6>Get buried the way the way the way you sit

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<v Speaker 6>around here and you take this beating from Danny and

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<v Speaker 6>I about Joe Burrow, about your boy or Justin Herbert,

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<v Speaker 6>I think you're gonna be taking that same beating. They're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna take the same beating. Man, gonna be fine. Man,

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<v Speaker 6>You're gonna be looking up like, Wow, should have done

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<v Speaker 6>this years ago. Should have listened to Danny years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're doing. Yeah, he on fire right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't even bought my new battery yet, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna switch over to the other side man, because I

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk about this defense, especially say a bad

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<v Speaker 3>word here. Freeze up safety, No, you didn't freeze up

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<v Speaker 3>You're good safeties and you know how it has been

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<v Speaker 3>with safeties around here. But Malik Hooker signed a new contract,

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<v Speaker 3>which is which in cowboy Land.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good news.

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<v Speaker 3>You backed the second went out, You backed that position

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<v Speaker 3>up with Malik Hooker. You get Donovan Wilson in signing

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<v Speaker 3>his contract as well. What do you guys feel about

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<v Speaker 3>the safeties in the way they solidified their group.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pleasantly surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, to me, this is the first time and

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<v Speaker 3>since I can remember that the Cowboys have put this

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<v Speaker 3>many dollars into the safety unit, and rightfully so. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you got the three headed monster right now. You got

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<v Speaker 3>Donovan Wilson, who's kind of that tone setter downhill, will

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<v Speaker 3>hit you in the mouth. You got a curse who's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, versatile, can play all types of positions. And

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<v Speaker 3>you got your middle of a field guy who has

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievable range. And Malik Hooker, who a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>including myself by that man off that for those injuries

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<v Speaker 3>that he sustained. You know at ACL I think he

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<v Speaker 3>had an achilles as well. He was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if he still got that juice, but you see,

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<v Speaker 3>the guy can get off the hash, you can make

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<v Speaker 3>plays in the deep end. And that's what this This

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys safety unit has been missing for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>So to me, they allocated the dollars into the right people.

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<v Speaker 3>Now when you talk about you know that guy Curse,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you got Donald getting paid a lot of ducats,

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<v Speaker 3>you got Hooker getting paid a lot of duckets, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you see a guy like Curse, who a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people's you know, was the defensive captain, was a

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<v Speaker 3>playmaker out there as far as getting everybody orchestrated. You

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<v Speaker 3>gotta start thinking in his mind. Man, So what does

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<v Speaker 3>that leave me? You know, you got guys coming.

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<v Speaker 4>Up on a hole.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm just kind of the odd man out. So

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<v Speaker 3>to me, Kurse got a lot to think about. But

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<v Speaker 3>where they put those dolls in that Safts unit. They

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<v Speaker 3>needed to do that because those guys are a great players.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, I got audio back here, Church, that's what piggyback

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<v Speaker 6>on what you said.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, Stephen Jones wasn't here.

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<v Speaker 6>He was at cancer with his dad for DeMarcus whereas

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<v Speaker 6>enshrine in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And by

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<v Speaker 6>the way, congratulations, do you wear a beautiful speech? I'm

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<v Speaker 6>gonna ask him and see if I can get a

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<v Speaker 6>hold of him after practice, because the thing that I

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<v Speaker 6>like to know was Curse offered a deal and they

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<v Speaker 6>couldn't come to numbers, because I know the first thought

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<v Speaker 6>is like, okay, well what about JK and who dan

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<v Speaker 6>Quinn is going out of his way to praise, who

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<v Speaker 6>played like a warrior last year for the guys.

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<v Speaker 4>How come he's not getting the bag.

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<v Speaker 6>Did they approach him and then him say well, we

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<v Speaker 6>couldn't agree to numbers or I wanted this, or I

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<v Speaker 6>wanted that, or the team's you know, there's just other

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<v Speaker 6>things that go into it that I'd like to see

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<v Speaker 6>what is happening there, and maybe Steven will give us

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<v Speaker 6>some insight because I just think at times we just

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<v Speaker 6>want to assume that maybe the team doesn't like the player,

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<v Speaker 6>but the player and the team have to come together

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<v Speaker 6>and say what do I want. I spoke to Malik

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<v Speaker 6>Hooker afterwards with other people, and Hooker said he likes

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<v Speaker 6>living here, didn't want to go to a different system.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think this also speaks to the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>what these guys feel about DQ Joett Jr. About what

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<v Speaker 6>they're running and how comfortable they feel they are. So

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<v Speaker 6>you take a little bit of less money, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean understand guys who want to go get in

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<v Speaker 6>the bag. But Hooker had an affinity for being here

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<v Speaker 6>and wanted to be here that much I know, so

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<v Speaker 6>he probably took less dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Danny.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you this, you obviously being a safety

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<v Speaker 3>in the NFL, if you're a jiron curse, being that

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<v Speaker 3>leader on this team, being a green dot guy at

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<v Speaker 3>times on this team, and know the role that you play,

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<v Speaker 3>are you okay with seeing other guys obviously get paid

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<v Speaker 3>in front of you, knowing that, hey man, this year

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<v Speaker 3>could be pretty big for you and you could be

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that's in line to get paid big dollars

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<v Speaker 3>next year. Oh yeah, I guess I'll have to put it,

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<v Speaker 3>uh in terms of how I would feel if if

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't offered a deal. Right, So we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>assume that he wasn't offered the deal he could have been.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna just go from that assumption.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm incentivized at this point one to make you pay

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<v Speaker 3>for not paying me, Right, I'm a ball out this

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<v Speaker 3>season and then find out who wants to really get

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<v Speaker 3>me the bag and I'm I'm and I'm chunking deuces

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<v Speaker 3>on y'all too. I'm hoping DQ get out of here

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<v Speaker 3>next year, and he takes me with him, and I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's all right with d Q Lee's. I know I'm

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<v Speaker 3>the guy, I'm not tied to Dallas, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>might feel a little slighted if I didn't get offered

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<v Speaker 3>the deal and the other two safeties or offer one

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<v Speaker 3>of I'm the green dot guy, I'm the leader on

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<v Speaker 3>the defense, and oh yeah, by the way I've been balling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I feel a little way. But us as athletes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what happens, man, when they say you have a

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<v Speaker 3>chip on your shoulder like some like some business decisions

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<v Speaker 3>make you. They put that chip on your shoulders or

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<v Speaker 3>turned it into a boulder, and then maybe you see

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<v Speaker 3>the guy come out and having even better seasons than

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<v Speaker 3>he had previously, and he'd be laughing his way to

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<v Speaker 3>the bank next season. But I know Malie Hooker and

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<v Speaker 3>then be seeing them no state taxes, man, that's what up.

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<v Speaker 2>To get nothing motivation? You like money. But I got

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you this, Nuie.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're Zach Martin and you see the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 3>make these signs.

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<v Speaker 2>How does that.

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<v Speaker 3>Affect you, especially when you holding out for more dollars?

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<v Speaker 6>I think you can, okay, if I'm looking at it

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<v Speaker 6>just kind of putting on a hat of both sides.

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<v Speaker 6>If I'm looking at the Zach side, you say, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 6>you've committed dollars and you've paid other people before. Other

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<v Speaker 6>folks have jumped out of line and you've paid them.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a Hall of Fame football player. You can take

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<v Speaker 6>care of me if you want to. On the flip side,

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<v Speaker 6>you're the Cowboys, say hey, we've given you your money.

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<v Speaker 6>We paid you at the top, You're first round draft pick.

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<v Speaker 6>You were taking care of there. We have the leverage,

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<v Speaker 6>we don't have to pay you going And I had

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<v Speaker 6>a good conversation I'm gonna put up with Todd Archer

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<v Speaker 6>on the NBCD have to be website light on about

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<v Speaker 6>how you go into missing games, you know, regular season games.

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<v Speaker 4>It's money you will not get back.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's you know, starts messing with your contract and

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<v Speaker 6>escalators and things within that that you don't want to do.

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<v Speaker 6>So I just at this point in time, Todd Archer

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<v Speaker 6>ESPN has and Todd has a good relationship with Zach

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<v Speaker 6>but he really does feel you're not going to see

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<v Speaker 6>Zach Martin miss any regular season games and this will

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<v Speaker 6>just be a training camp thing that he will be

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<v Speaker 6>there week number one, and with the kind of Hall

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<v Speaker 6>of Fame resume that he is putting up, you don't

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<v Speaker 6>want to miss another opportunity to be an all pro

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<v Speaker 6>guard World War time, to have more statistics that go

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<v Speaker 6>your way when they go into the room to vote

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<v Speaker 6>on the Hall of Fame and rubber stamp you as

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<v Speaker 6>a first ballot guy.

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<v Speaker 4>So that, to me, I think is your hope.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think Jerry has a I think they feel

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<v Speaker 6>the same way that he's not going to miss regular

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<v Speaker 6>season games. So you know, Mike McCarthy's come out here

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<v Speaker 6>and said he's not worried about Zach Martin.

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<v Speaker 3>So you don't see this having any type of how

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<v Speaker 3>m Smith held out back. And I believe it was

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<v Speaker 3>like ninety five or ninety six where we missed the

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<v Speaker 3>first couple of games and then Charles Haley went over

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<v Speaker 3>there and said, hey, y'all gotta pay this man so

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<v Speaker 3>we can get back on track. You don't see that

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<v Speaker 3>type of situation happening with Zach Martin.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I'm gonna put this out here for Emmitt Smith,

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<v Speaker 6>and please never when you never see him, don't ever

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<v Speaker 6>say he held out, because he's still sensitive about that.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, I did not hold out.

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<v Speaker 6>My contract was expired, So you can't hold out if

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<v Speaker 6>you have an expired contract. And Jerry was trying to

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<v Speaker 6>get him on the cheat. Emmitt's like, pay me more

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<v Speaker 6>than Barry Sanders. I've won a Super Bowl, I've led

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<v Speaker 6>the league in rushing. Pay me, and Jerry was like no.

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<v Speaker 6>So they lose the first two games and go back

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<v Speaker 6>to what this was at the time. This was an

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<v Speaker 6>offense that was predicated on the run. As great as

0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:05.200
<v Speaker 6>quarterback as Troutman was, Jimmy was running the football. There's

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<v Speaker 6>no doubt he was the most valuable player on that team.

0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.480
<v Speaker 6>And the engine that they had to have two games go,

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<v Speaker 6>they lose them. At that point in time, no team

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<v Speaker 6>had ever gone zero to to and won the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 6>So everybody's frustrated, sponsors are mad, and then boom, Jerry

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<v Speaker 6>goes and makes the deal. Zach Martin, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 6>he's not going to be that. I don't see him

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<v Speaker 6>being that lynchpin that if the Cowboys go oh and two,

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<v Speaker 6>I says, Oh, my gosh, you gotta pay Zach. I

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<v Speaker 6>also don't think that Zach Martin will will miss the

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<v Speaker 6>first two games, because, as I said, you go back

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<v Speaker 6>into the kind of money that you will lose and

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<v Speaker 6>how it affects the rest of your contract.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't see that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an eleven time Emmy winner. Knew he shruggs the.

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<v Speaker 3>at the preseason. But you guys know it, there are

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<v Speaker 3>interior line, safety, receiver, things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's all starting to play out.

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<v Speaker 3>But one of the things I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>y'all specifically about is locker room chemistry, locker room leadership.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys know how important that is. And guys on

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<v Speaker 3>this team seem like they like each other, love each other.

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<v Speaker 3>They kick it with each other outside of the facility.

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<v Speaker 3>But the bigger thing I think that you guys have

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<v Speaker 3>talked about I've heard you talk about before. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>the leadership part on this team. You bring in Stephan Gilmour,

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<v Speaker 3>you bring in a Brandan Cooks and players like that

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<v Speaker 3>that obviously are making an impact on your team. Talk

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<v Speaker 3>about how important that is and where this could actually

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<v Speaker 3>be such a positive thing for a team that was

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<v Speaker 3>already finishing twelve and five last season.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start with you. Yeah, I think it's been instant.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you could just listen to to Treyvon Diggs,

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<v Speaker 3>who was who was our best corner for the last

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<v Speaker 3>few years, breaking records, doing everything he can to be better.

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<v Speaker 3>His brother is Stephan Di's plays in the league, so

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<v Speaker 3>he already has the idea of how to be a professional.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you get a guy like Stepan Gilmour to

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<v Speaker 3>come in, comes in and he's like, oh man, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>learning a lot from this dude. Like this dude is

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<v Speaker 3>showing me how to be a better professional, what he

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<v Speaker 3>does to be as good as he's been for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>And how I can be better.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, all right, Stephan dig like he just got

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<v Speaker 3>paid one hundred million dollars and he still he's still

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<v Speaker 3>looking at another guy saying I can be better than

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<v Speaker 3>what I am based off what I'm learning from him.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the same thing with Ceedee Lamb in the

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<v Speaker 3>roide receiver room, he's talking to Cooks and he's saying, Hey, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting all these little tip bits from him, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think I can make my game be a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit better based off of what I've learned from him.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think when you're in the locker room, when

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<v Speaker 3>you have guys in your position, group meeting, who can

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<v Speaker 3>give you those those nuggets, who can who has the

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<v Speaker 3>experience for you to say I respect what he's saying,

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<v Speaker 3>right because most of the time, if it's somebody who's

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<v Speaker 3>been no shoes in that position, you're gonna listen to

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<v Speaker 3>them versus somebody who hasn't done it.

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<v Speaker 2>The same thing on the coaching side.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think when you have guys like that in

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<v Speaker 3>the locker room, in those positions of meeting rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just it just helps you.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I think you see the team being

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more competitive. They're a lot closer now where

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<v Speaker 3>they can throw the ball at each other after a

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<v Speaker 3>play in this and if not a big deal, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, because it's some locker rooms that'll

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<v Speaker 3>be a fight, like like what.

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<v Speaker 2>You throw the ball at me? For now?

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<v Speaker 3>These dudes they close enough for it to say, you know, man,

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<v Speaker 3>this is all competition and we're good and this is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna make us better. Yeah, it's huge to have leadership

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<v Speaker 3>in the locker room. I mean, some of the teams

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<v Speaker 3>that I have been on, the better teams that I've

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<v Speaker 3>been on, we were extremely close and extremely tight. You

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<v Speaker 3>had those veteran leaders to show the youngsters out there

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<v Speaker 3>how to go about things. I mean, to me, it's

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<v Speaker 3>important when you talk about leadership. There's two type of leaders.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's a vocal leader and then you got

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<v Speaker 3>your lead by example leader. And to me, I think

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys cover both bases. When you look at the

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<v Speaker 3>defensive side of the football, you look at step On Gilmore,

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<v Speaker 3>who he's kind of a quiet guy, not a really

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<v Speaker 3>vocal guy out there. He's kind of just like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is why I'm gonna do it. If you want to

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<v Speaker 3>be successful, this is just follow my lead, follow my example.

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<v Speaker 2>And Diggs's done it a great job doing that. As well

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<v Speaker 2>as the other corners.

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<v Speaker 3>They've done a great job learning from the lead back

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<v Speaker 3>example type of guy like Gilmore is. And then when

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<v Speaker 3>you talk about vocal leadership, a guy that's gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>the team hype, the guy that's gonna run through a

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<v Speaker 3>brick wall and have everybody run through with them, you

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<v Speaker 3>talk about a guy like de Marcus Lawrence. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>he's always out there hyping this team up, making sure

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<v Speaker 3>this team is always on their.

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<v Speaker 2>P's and q's.

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<v Speaker 3>So defensively, you got that understanding that you have that

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<v Speaker 3>vocal leader, you have that lead back example leader, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on you off of the side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>The same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You look at a guy like Dak Prescott vocal and

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<v Speaker 3>lead by example. And you got Brandon Cooks out there

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<v Speaker 3>who's not really the most vocal guy, but he goes

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<v Speaker 3>out there and he takes the top off of defenses

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<v Speaker 3>and shows these young receivers how to go about how

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<v Speaker 3>to be a professional each and every day. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's great for this team and hopefully they can

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<v Speaker 3>come together as a whole and be that tight unit

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<v Speaker 3>that we all think they are. Take at the distance,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they know they've got a lot to do.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's got this on paper right now. But

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<v Speaker 3>as far as leadership is concerned, I think this team

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<v Speaker 3>has all the bases checked now. As you went down

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<v Speaker 3>the line, I thought, I was like, man, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking about the players and the position groups and

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<v Speaker 3>who the leaders are. I'm like than you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>I look at that running back room, who is this

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<v Speaker 3>void of leadership right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because all I've heard about Tony Poller is he's a

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<v Speaker 3>quiet guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of those lead by example guys.

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<v Speaker 3>But who's the guy to get everybody together, get you

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<v Speaker 3>hanging out, making sure we're staying after the watch film.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's ordering the wingstop? Right?

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 3>Hey, everybody coming here after practice? I got wingstop for us,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna look at a few more players to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that we're all on the same pace. Who

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 3>is that guy? It has to be Tony Pollard, right.

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<v Speaker 3>You think that he's getting outside of his own bubble

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 3>to be that vocal guy because he's a veteran. Now

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 3>he's seen it done. So I'll say this. I'll say

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 3>this from my experience, some guys are are just one type.

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Something guys have a hard time going from I lead

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<v Speaker 3>by example, watch me play, and then going to the

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<v Speaker 3>DeMarcus Lawrence role of like, Okay, now I'm speaking on

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 3>it and now I'm doing both. Like everybody doesn't really

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<v Speaker 3>have that that characteristic characteristic in them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very true.

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<v Speaker 3>And as for me, I mean, I take myself as

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<v Speaker 3>an example. I'm more of a lead by example, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna go out there and be this raw,

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<v Speaker 3>raw leader and.

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<v Speaker 2>You got everybody just falling. You got a rucker.

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<v Speaker 4>No I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been the by example.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've also had leaders with me that I'm thankful for,

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<v Speaker 3>like a Sean Lee or or DeMarcus Ware or somebody

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<v Speaker 3>like that who can take that vocal presence away from

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<v Speaker 3>because I know I'm not the guy that everybody rally

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<v Speaker 3>around me. All right, this is how we're gonna break

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<v Speaker 3>things down. I was never that type of guy. So

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<v Speaker 3>you got to have two type of leaders on this team,

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully for that running back room, somebody can step up.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about something that you just mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>with you said DeMarcus Lawrence, but you also talked about

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<v Speaker 3>Dak and one of the stories that I got from

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<v Speaker 3>training camp I got this from Nate talking in the

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<v Speaker 3>other day was about Dak. It was eleven on eleven,

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<v Speaker 3>send me for holk ran around. He cut it off short,

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Dak through the ball. It was one of those ones

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<v Speaker 3>that was intercepted. Dak gets Simmy coming back to the

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<v Speaker 3>huddle and not so much brates him in front of

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<v Speaker 3>the team or whatever, but you know that there was

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<v Speaker 3>at one on one time to talk to him about

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<v Speaker 3>what he did wrong. Because they're obviously learning a new

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<v Speaker 3>offense the time it may be a little bit off,

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<v Speaker 3>but still letting him know that, Look, this is where

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<v Speaker 3>I need you to be. Dak coming into this season,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously so much riding on it, so much expectation on

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<v Speaker 3>his shoulders, because at the end of the day, everybody's

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 3>going to be talking about him. When you think about

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 3>him as a leader and at the quarterback position, from

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 3>all the other thirty one quarterbacks there is in the league,

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 3>do you think that there's anything maybe lacking in.

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>His leadership over the years.

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to say about the guy being Walter Payton

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 3>Man of the Year, but some way that he can

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<v Speaker 3>step his game up as a leader. I'll be honest

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 3>with you and in my opinion. I think Dak is

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 3>probably one of the best leaders I've ever been around

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 3>in the locker room.

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean period.

0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean from a young guy, from a rookie until now.

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's grown unbelievably and he understands that you

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.959
<v Speaker 3>can't talk to each player or motivate each player the

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 3>same way. You know, he went over to Semi Fooko,

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 3>as you said, he didn't, you know, berate him and

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 3>say you got to get that. He kind of just

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 3>talked to him and say, hey, this is how you

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 3>need to do this routing. Hopefully you know later on

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 3>in that practice he was able to do the right thing.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Some guys you can yell at and motivate them and say,

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 3>hey man, you playing like you know what you need

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 3>to get your you know, button gear, and some guys

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 3>you can't. You got to learn how to motivate people.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 3>And I think Dak does an amazing job of treating

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 3>each individual teammate out there different and his leadership style

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 3>to me is his second to none. It's a fine

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 3>line between that, right, especially when the end result is

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 3>of falling in your lap. Seventeen interceptions last season, and

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 3>let's say maybe five of those were based off of

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>tip passes.

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 2>If you're Dak, aren't.

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 3>You like, look, I'm crawling all over you about simple

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 3>mistakes like that because eminently it falls on me.

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I.

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Think if you look at the trajectory of some of

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 3>the greatest quarterbacks that we've been able to see, the

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 3>pay Manning's, the Aaron Rodgers, the Tom Brady's, Right, what

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 3>do you start to see as as they go deep

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 3>in their career and they have the young guys who

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 3>come in and don't know what they're doing or they're

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 3>dropping passes, you start to see that.

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 2>You start to see it go.

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 3>From hey man, I'm I'm I'm trying to work with

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 3>you to like, hey listen, if you ain't gonna do it,

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 3>we get you out of there. And I think that's

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 3>the next progression of Dak's leadership, right. I think I

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 3>think you're gonna get to the point to where it's like,

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 3>hey man, listen, I love you, okay, but I'm gonna

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 3>tell you this. If I know that you ain't been

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 3>working out during the summer, and I notice you don't

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 3>know what's going on because you're sleeping in the meetings,

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 3>and then I get out there and you're not running

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 3>the right route and you're dropping passes that I used

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 3>to Hey man, you're gonna be okay, that's gonna change

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 3>to a co going to the sideline. Though, going to

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 3>the sideline, we're gonna bring somebody else in who I

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 3>know has been working hard and I know they want

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 3>to maximize the opportunity that I'm gonna give them. I

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 3>think that's the next progression of it, because if you

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 3>continue to see stuff like guys dropping pastes and going

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 3>and it's going for U interceptions or making the wrong reads,

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, based on whatever the coverage you're showing, and

0:32:58.120 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 3>they running the wrong route, and that ends up in

0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 3>the exception, I think you're gonna start to see like,

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 3>hey man, I got guys, I got Cooks, Yeah all right,

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I got Ceedee Lamb, and I got Michael Gallup and

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 3>then the rest of y'all. Y'all just gonna have to

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 3>figure it out because I'm not taking a chance on

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 3>y'all because y'all are letting me down. I mean, like,

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 3>classic example of what you're seeing is that goes to

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 3>the to the podium after the Jacksonville game, throws the

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 3>ball to Noah Brown, hits him in the bread basket,

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 3>goes right to the other player, runs it back for

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 3>a touchdown. He puts that on himself. Now, if you

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 3>go to other quarterbacks, I won't call him back. But

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 3>come on, man, they will throw you up. Aaron Rodgers

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 3>will throw you under the bus.

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>You gotta have guys. He will throw you under the bus.

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 2>But that is the quarterback that will put it on himself.

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 3>And that to me, like, that's a difference in leadership,

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 3>especially when you talk about a guy someone like Tom

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Brady that all doll cousin receiver on the sideline. Aaron

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Rodgers will throw you under the bus at a press conference.

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Dak will do none of it and take all of

0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 3>the responsibility that comes with it. And some quarterbacks you

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 3>know that we've played with, they will make you'll make

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 3>a mistake like that. They won't even say nothing to you.

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 3>They'll just go to the coach and you know, man,

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.399
<v Speaker 3>why am I only playing you know, ten snaps instead

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 3>of forty snaps. So these guys are lucky that they

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 3>have a guy like that that cares enough to say,

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, hey, I'm gonna bring you to the sizes.

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, this is what you need to do better, because,

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 3>like I said, we played with a guy at what

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 3>you're doing? All right, I'm the coach real quick, and

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 3>I got to answer, at what point does it change?

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Because I was true because I'm not I'm not talking

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I was.

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't talking about the guys who will go and

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 3>get you in the in the media right when they

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 3>come to the podium and they say, well this guy

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.760
<v Speaker 3>did whatever. I'm talking about the guy who had practiced

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 3>when you drop a past and you running in he said, no,

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 3>go back to the sideline. Jason Witten would do a

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.399
<v Speaker 3>guy like that, Hey man, you don't know what you're doing.

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:44.879
<v Speaker 3>Don't get him sideline man going to the same middle

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 3>of play, Hey, coach, man, this dude, get him about it.

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 3>But he had that also helped. God, they respected him

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 3>when he said go to the sideline. They ain't say well, coach,

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 3>They be like we said, I got to get out.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 3>But I think that is I think that's the progression

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 3>of the leadership to where you say, hey man, I've

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 3>been around teams uh in instances where this type of

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 3>stuff right here has cost us in big moments and

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna let that continue. To cost us in

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 3>big moments, So you got to go until you can

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 3>get it figured out. And like I said, I think

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 3>that's the next progression of of that. He's an amazing leader,

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 3>but it's you know, sometime you be like, hey man,

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 3>we didnet got so close so many times. And this

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 3>ain't on me, right, this on guys. This on guys

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 3>that I see. I'm I'm gonna take it in at

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 3>the podium, you know.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying. But this is on guys who I know, like.

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 3>When we're working out, when we go to Miami, all right,

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 3>you didn't come like that, like that, that is when

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 3>you say all right, now, I understand that when you

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 3>when you got to say, man, you you're not the

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 3>one sad line. So I think it'll get there, you know,

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 3>especially your start winning some Super Bowl gonna be like,

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 3>hey man, I know I know the length of an

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 3>NFL career and uh and we didn't and we didn't

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 3>got and we didn't got close enough. But we're not

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 3>there and I know only have certain amount of years left.

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 3>Now it's a little bit more serious. Danny McCrae is

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 3>predicting Super Bowl. I heard it, yes, right, I said,

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 3>I start winning for some more.

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.399
<v Speaker 2>I refuse to believe that you were not a rock

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:08.879
<v Speaker 2>rock guy.

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 3>I refuse I was not you right right here though,

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 3>was just like, if you don't want to do it.

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 3>You played with so yeah, d war you had Jason Hatcher, Okay,

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 3>you didn't have to James, I mean, and then and

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 3>then after that.

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>You had Rob Ryan as your defense coordinator. It was

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna be the.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, so you didn't you didn't really like Dware

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 3>to me, wasn't even really a rock rock. They kind

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 3>of forced him into that, like, but you could tell

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't him. Well, man, we got our final segment

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<v Speaker 2>New he does that. You guys sitting over there like.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys literally and you have played with some special

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<v Speaker 3>the coaches, are you saying, look, let's dial this kid

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what you do. We need to save

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 2>all this for the regular season when.

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 3>It comes, you know, full padded practices and all that.

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's still young enough for I'm gonna put

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 3>him out there for the full path. I'm gonna let

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 3>him do his thing. You know, he's the vocal leader,

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 3>he's almost, you know, the face of the franchise outside

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 3>of d So to me, I'm gonna let him do

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 3>his thing out there. But when it comes to these

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 3>preseason games, we've seen enough. All right, sit your but

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 3>over there.

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 2>With Britt Brown.

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I wouldn't even let him dress out for

0:40:57.960 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 3>the game because you know the type of man he

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 3>is in the type of guy he is. If he's

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 3>dressing out there, he's gonna want to get on the field,

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 3>And to me, it's just it's not worth the risk

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 3>out there for a preseason game. We've seen it happen

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 3>time and time again where guys will go out there

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 3>for their ten snaps and on that nice snap, something

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:12.840
<v Speaker 3>crazy happens.

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 2>And to me, the big.

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Mazukah Aka Parsons, he's a guy that you can't afford

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.439
<v Speaker 3>to lose, all right, especially for this team. I feel

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 3>like he's, you know, basically the fire of this team

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 3>and he gets everything going in the right motion. So

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 3>for me, preseason now you go ahead and set over

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 3>there with Brett Brown, get some of the bands done.

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not, I'm not messing with in the preseason.

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not asking for him

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 2>to go out there and play.

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Now, get he get a couple of snaps like a series,

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 3>and in the third one if they all played and

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 3>then then I kind of understand that, But not do

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:40.879
<v Speaker 3>we need to.

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 2>See anything from him? No? No, we know how good.

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 2>We know he went and got better.

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 3>So all the stories of him going to talk to

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 3>some of the best offensive lineman there to play the

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 3>game in our generation and getting tips from them on

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 3>how to be better, so we know that he's put

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 3>in the work. I mean, I feel the same way

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 3>same way about him as I feel about a guy

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:01.280
<v Speaker 3>like Ceedee Lamb. I feel about a guy like Brandon Cooks,

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 3>Like do I need to see him in the preseason?

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 3>And I think Mike McCarthy is sending it up perfectly

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 3>by making sure that there's a lot of ones versus

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 3>ones in the preseason, right, Because what happens is if

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:17.280
<v Speaker 3>you believe that you have a top five defense, okay,

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 3>you're probably not going to get better competition in the preseason, right,

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 3>You're probably the best competition that you're going to get

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 3>before the regular season is probably in practice, right, so

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 3>they're getting all the reps they need to get. Michael

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Parsons is going up against Tyron Smith, who's healthy right now,

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 3>so he's probably getting the best look that he's gonna

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 3>get before he gets into the regular season. So I

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 3>don't expect to see them much should we do maybe

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 3>a series, But outside of that, nah, I want them

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.359
<v Speaker 3>to stay healthy because what happens is it doesn't even

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 3>have to be a major injury at acl Achilles any

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 3>of that. Just something nagging injury. The first four weeks

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 3>of your season. It's like I'm a little slower than

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 3>I should be because I tweaked something. Yes, that's what

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm That's what I'm talking about. You guys are two

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.320
<v Speaker 3>KGI veterans, You played a lot of years in the NFL.

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:08.720
<v Speaker 3>You have a guy on your team that can make

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:12.720
<v Speaker 3>you money, okay, a guy that can make you money, okay.

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 3>You have a one percenter of all the dogs that

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:17.840
<v Speaker 3>are quote unquote dolls in the NFL.

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't want him to have any of that.

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 3>A tweet Cami a tweet, quad or finger or any

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 3>of that.

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 2>He is what he is.

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 3>The debate about him being a linebacker versus defensive end,

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 3>that's over with.

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:30.280
<v Speaker 2>He's a defensive end, okay.

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 3>And now, even with the experience that he has, he

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:37.359
<v Speaker 3>is one of the best in the NFL. I don't

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't even dare think that he would play a

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.479
<v Speaker 3>preseason game. But at this point it's making it hard

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 3>on this offense just to.

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Get a look.

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:50.959
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well listen, okay, we noticed s o officive line.

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 3>All right, So I will always tell this story. I

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:55.359
<v Speaker 3>will always tell it.

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 2>Man. When I went to Chicago, all.

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, we was balling in training camp against our offense,

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 3>killing them. I mean I must have by four picks

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 3>in a training camp. I got the start job and

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:12.200
<v Speaker 3>everything all that. I say, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 3>be nice when we get into the regular season, because

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 3>the Bears had beat the brakes off of us when

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 3>we went up there.

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>They did, they did. Man.

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 3>We got out there only to realize that our offense

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 3>was absolutely trans We the office was so transhed. We

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 3>thought we was great. Then we played the offense that

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 3>was averaged and they read it up on us, Okay,

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 3>so you never know. Okay, So let's say we know

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 3>that the offensive line right now is going through Zach Martin. There,

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 3>Tyrn Smith is trying to figure it back out again

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 3>at this point, but he's also probably in his mind,

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 3>like I still need to stay healthy, trying to make

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 3>sure that nothing happens, and then you shuffling for the

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 3>rest of your offensive line. Tylers Smith playing little guard.

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 3>We know that his natural positions left time, so he's

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.839
<v Speaker 3>still figuring that out as a second year player. So

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 3>that's some of the headaches that you expect to have.

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 3>And then when you got a guy like Mark Michael Parsons,

0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 3>who's that great. Yeah, he's gonna wreck your practice break.

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 3>He's not even gonna give you opportunity to really find

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 3>that shuffle out. They probably got to put him on

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 3>the sideline so they can see what they can pass

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 3>off with what they can't, you know, who can really

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 3>play the game. Because it's not a fair assessment of

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 3>a guy that's going against the Michael Parsons every snap

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 3>to say is he a guy who could play in

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 3>the league, because he's not even it's not fair.

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:19.800
<v Speaker 2>It's not fair.

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 3>He has to get a look against a guy who

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 3>he may be actually going.

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Against that type of tier. He's a Michael Parson's tier one.

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, on average, you're probably going against tier two, tier

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:32.880
<v Speaker 3>three at the most average. Okay, So puts on them

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 3>tier three guys and then and then let them go

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.479
<v Speaker 3>against the office line and see what happens. Well, look, guys,

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you saw over the weekend one of your

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 3>former teammates getting shrine in too.

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I gotta be like that. Go out there and say that.

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 3>The marks where your former teammate sung the national anthem

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 3>and got his gold jacket. But man, a great speech,

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 3>and I wouldn't give you guys just a minute to

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 3>talk about a guy that you got an opportunity to

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 3>play with getting.

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 2>His gold jacket.

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 3>No, without a doubt, I mean it's much deserved. When

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 3>you talk about a pros pro, I mean the markers

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 3>where his picture is gonna be in the dictionary. When

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:18.879
<v Speaker 3>you talk about that, I mean, this is a guy

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 3>that you came to work early each and every day,

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 3>stayed late. And he wasn't a selfish guy like this guy.

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 3>He knew all the tricks of the trade, and he

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:28.720
<v Speaker 3>taught the younger guy. No matter if you were undrafted,

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 3>if you were a sixth seventh round pick, He's gonna

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 3>teach you the knowledge that he knew going in through

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 3>this game.

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 2>And he helped a lot of young guys out that way.

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 3>And when we talk about his on field performance, I

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 3>mean we came in his rookies.

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was just crazy.

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 3>To see a guy his size be able to run

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 3>as fast, bend the corners that he was able to

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 3>and impact the game like he's able to so much deserved,

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean Hall of Fame for this guys. It was

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 3>a deserved opportunity for him, and I'm glad he was

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 3>able to get there.

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:58.879
<v Speaker 2>But we talked about singing that national anthem. My man

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 2>was up there, like I love it.

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 3>Though I love it. He did a good job. He

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 3>did a good job. Word is great man. I love

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 3>d Whir. I see him all the time now. He

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 3>was my locker mate when I first got into the league.

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 3>So that's a guy you want to sit next to

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 3>if you want to try to figure out how to

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 3>be a professional in the league and try to get

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 3>some pointers on what you should do as a rookie,

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, trying to get your footing as you get

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 3>into the league.

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:25.360
<v Speaker 2>I would say this.

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 3>I think it may have been our second year where

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Okay, d Word's great. We all know

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.839
<v Speaker 3>he's great, you know, And he played, he balled out,

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 3>he had the club on.

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 2>I think he got an interception with the club on.

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:40.919
<v Speaker 3>But the standout game to me, okay is the Philadelphia

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Eagles when they were the second coming of the Greatest

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:46.359
<v Speaker 3>Show on Turf and Michael Vick and Sean Jackson at

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 3>all now and d Ware went out there and got

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 3>full sacks on the guy and Michael Vick could still run,

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 3>he was still rolling. Yeah, he went out there and got

0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 3>full sacks on the guy. And I'm just watching him.

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this is this is different, this is this

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:01.880
<v Speaker 3>is something totally different than you've ever see because you

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 3>you already know he's great, and then you still have

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:05.959
<v Speaker 3>you still see it, and you say, oh, he's that great,

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 3>Like there was never a limit to like how much

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 3>he could do, like he always he could always go

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 3>out there and surprised, you say, that's actually something I

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 3>never thought I would see done in my time playing

0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 3>the game. So shout out to him. Super Bowl champion

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 3>as well. So ye, great dude. Uh, well deserved man.

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:24.919
<v Speaker 3>I tell you what, man, this is one of those

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 3>moments when you see a good guy get rewarded. And

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 3>that's the market sware man. It's an awesome dude man

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 3>all around. I haven't heard one person say anything bad

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 3>about the Market Square ever, you know, so I'll check

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 3>them if somebody like it's you, but much deserving into

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:46.240
<v Speaker 3>all of the recipients man.

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Reeves Island got in.

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 3>It was some real dogs, man, some guys that played

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 3>in this league and well deserved man to all of

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 3>them in the weekend. Uh and can But that's a

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 3>wrap for us here on the players lines.

0:48:57.560 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 2>We came in, We did what we did.

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.960
<v Speaker 3>We'll be back on on Wednesday. Wednesday at one o'clock.

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 3>I still got this in my pocket for you. If

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 3>you want to die, I can't.

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 2>It's the player aloud man. We'll be back on Wednesday.

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 2>We'll see yuh.

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