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Speaker 3: I got two former Cowboys safeties, Very Church, Danny McCrae
Speaker 3: is at the desk, and man, we have a great
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna check on it's been alone. It's been a
Speaker 3: long time since I seen you there. I mean it's
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Speaker 4: But to answer your question, heck how you My mentals
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Speaker 2: Mentals are great, man.
Speaker 3: I went to my first Rangers game yesterday for the
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Speaker 2: The indoor.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: It was a lovely experience, something to take the family too.
Speaker 2: So it was cool. It was cool all the way
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Speaker 4: I was up there. I think I was like one
Speaker 4: twenty two or something that game. But it was a
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Speaker 2: You got to see everything. Knew it. Don't believe that
Speaker 2: it's okay. Nobody knew.
Speaker 3: He gave him the he gave him the tickets.
Speaker 2: Danny, how are you, brother? I'm good man, I'm good man. Listen.
Speaker 3: I'm having a great time, you know, being a dad life,
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm and I'm seeing you take care
Speaker 3: of yourself.
Speaker 2: Man, So apple day, keep it, keep it out though
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Speaker 3: I have my apple, had my yoga, trying to do
Speaker 3: trying to get like newie man, trying to get like
Speaker 3: newie newie.
Speaker 2: How is ox Star treating you? Brother?
Speaker 3: From come on, I'll ask.
Speaker 4: You how you do?
Speaker 2: Hey? This is loved.
Speaker 4: I couldn't hear Frouds for a second.
Speaker 6: All these all the all these folks who come around here,
Speaker 6: these these signals have interrupted me.
Speaker 4: I'm fine, guys, I'm fine.
Speaker 6: I'm doing better than Tristan Viscay, you know, because I'm here.
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Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 6: So Saturday was an abysmal performance by the kickers. Okay,
Speaker 6: it was bad between Tristan Viscay you know, and and
Speaker 6: Brandon Arbors. They ended up cutting this guyino today. So
Speaker 6: Brandon is now the kicker. He's going to be able
Speaker 6: to go into the Jacksonville game and handle all the
Speaker 6: kicking duties. Mike McCarthy, the dead coach, who's asked today
Speaker 6: the press conference, so why not bringing a veteran And
Speaker 6: he's like, well, we want to give we want to
Speaker 6: give Brandon reps and see what he can do. So
Speaker 6: this guy is kicking in the USFL. He's from Plano,
Speaker 6: so he's a local kid. He's gonna Basically what I
Speaker 6: got from Mike was he deserves the opportunity to fail.
Speaker 6: So come Jacksonville, we'll see what he does all week long.
Speaker 6: He's gonna have his opportunity. But when the crowd was
Speaker 6: out here booing these guys and then when they ended
Speaker 6: up did make it a kick?
Speaker 4: They gave him that that New York.
Speaker 6: Yankee side clap, like, okay, but look, you should be worried. Okay,
Speaker 6: if it's right now going into the Giants game, your
Speaker 6: biggest concern is who's gonna make the extra points and
Speaker 6: field goals on Sunday Night football, because.
Speaker 4: Right now that answer is not clear at all for
Speaker 4: the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: If you didn't know, Hodge Vis Kuyino was cut today
Speaker 3: and now we know.
Speaker 2: Now you know.
Speaker 3: But also newly the position battles that obviously we're hearing
Speaker 3: about back at home that are playing out down there. Man,
Speaker 3: talk about what you're seeing because obviously a lot of
Speaker 3: people are writing about a lot of different positions on
Speaker 3: both sides of the ball.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 6: So one of the questions and the only question asked
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy about today, is how should we view this
Speaker 6: offensive line and what we're seeing? And he said, obviously
Speaker 6: he doesn't have you know his five yet for to
Speaker 6: just start the season.
Speaker 4: He said, that's still developing.
Speaker 6: Says, right now the defense is ahead of the offensive
Speaker 6: line that got a lot of different combinations, and he
Speaker 6: says that's good for development. So he's looking at getting
Speaker 6: guys reps and and look at times and reasons I
Speaker 6: asked the questions. Sometimes it doesn't look real pretty. Sometimes
Speaker 6: you got some defensive players, you know, like Osa and
Speaker 6: and you got Micah back here getting after dudes, and
Speaker 6: so you look at the offensive line and you're like, okay, let's.
Speaker 4: See where it goes.
Speaker 6: So basically, with a new offensive line coach, let's just
Speaker 6: give it time. By the way, Michael Parsons did say
Speaker 6: that that Tyron.
Speaker 4: Smith is really still good.
Speaker 6: Okay, I mean he's really he's really good because you know,
Speaker 6: people put that video out there.
Speaker 4: You know he kind of kind of kind.
Speaker 6: Of got by tire just a little bit, just a
Speaker 6: little bit out there, but you know, Tyed, he's sitting there.
Speaker 4: Tyre's still a monster. Okay.
Speaker 6: So for certain people on this show that are always
Speaker 6: trying to find something negative towards that find usc Trojan,
Speaker 6: just understand Mike Carson said, he's still really good.
Speaker 3: Boy, I'm trying to find did I post the video? Dah,
Speaker 3: you ain't posted was out there for the rep No, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm just asking, okay, have I listen. I'm not I'm
Speaker 3: no longer active in the NFL. Okay, so I don't
Speaker 3: play any games. I'm real close to top Okay, I
Speaker 3: mean out to play the left now, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: I'm kidding. Listen.
Speaker 3: If Tyron is healthy, as I've always said, he is
Speaker 3: still a top notch player. When he's on the field
Speaker 3: and he's healthy, he's still a top notched player. The
Speaker 3: only issue that I had what iron over the last
Speaker 3: few years, specifically starting with Adrian Clayborne in the Atlanta
Speaker 3: Falcons game when Tyron went out and we saw the
Speaker 3: impact that it had on us, and then continuously year
Speaker 3: after year after year when Tyron goes out, we have
Speaker 3: the same problem. So that's my only issue with with
Speaker 3: that of like the health factor, not his ability to
Speaker 3: play yet what mikel did to him. That happens sometimes,
Speaker 3: especially since you get a little older. You know, somebody
Speaker 3: get the best of you every once in a while.
Speaker 3: But I still think he's a good player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3: I definitely think you know, Tyren's you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna call him, you know, a top five tackle in
Speaker 3: the game right now, but I'll give him top ten,
Speaker 3: you know, when healthy, I still think he has the
Speaker 3: capabilities of being a standout player.
Speaker 2: Out there, and let's be honest.
Speaker 3: You know, Michael Parsons has done that to a lot
Speaker 3: of offensive tackles International Football League. He's a premier edge
Speaker 3: rusher and he's just showing how great he is as
Speaker 3: a talent. So hopefully, you know, Tyron Smith can stay healthy.
Speaker 3: But the question I want to ask you knew he is.
Speaker 3: I've heard a lot of reports out of camp about
Speaker 3: Jalen Tobert and he's actually he been stepping up and
Speaker 3: playing halfway decent out there in camp, starting to get
Speaker 3: a little bit of separation. Can you see from the
Speaker 3: sidelines where you're at, can you see him taking that
Speaker 3: next step and maybe even capturing that wide receiver for
Speaker 3: position out there.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna stand on my soapbox just a little bit here,
Speaker 6: just a little bit when I said earlier this year
Speaker 6: that if I'm Jalen Tolbert, I stick next to Dak.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm there by four and I'm trying to
Speaker 6: be wherever he is. And apparently that is what's happened.
Speaker 6: He has stuck by Dak Prescott. Brian Schottenheimer. Also head
Speaker 6: coach Mike McCarthy said there's not a day where that
Speaker 6: young man has not been there in the building, trying
Speaker 6: to work, trying to get better. And one of the
Speaker 6: things I have an appreciation for is he owned last year.
Speaker 6: You know, he said I wasn't where I needed to be.
Speaker 6: So he has made that jump and people talk about
Speaker 6: it and Danny, you went through it, bar you went through it.
Speaker 6: That jumped from your first year to your second year.
Speaker 6: He has a better understanding of what he needs to do.
Speaker 6: I think maybe some people forgot that he came out
Speaker 6: of South Alabama and might not have been ready for
Speaker 6: what this NFL life entails. So so far, the young
Speaker 6: man is doing his part. I would tell you I
Speaker 6: feel better about his future than I do about let's
Speaker 6: say a Kelvin Joseph number two draft pick they made
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago. And what I think Jalen
Speaker 6: Tobert can be special teams. He's gonna have to show
Speaker 6: us what he can do. Done a little bit there,
Speaker 6: some practice, but Saturday night is gonna be huge for
Speaker 6: a guy like Jalen Tolbert's gonna be huge for a
Speaker 6: guy like like Kelvin Joseph to show us what you
Speaker 6: learn is it gonna translate on the football field?
Speaker 4: And so so.
Speaker 6: Far, they're saying all the right things about about mister Tobert.
Speaker 6: What you're seeing. I think he has improved where he
Speaker 6: was from last year.
Speaker 4: Is that good enough?
Speaker 6: Is that gonna be better than the kids from South
Speaker 6: Carolina Brooks that they all enjoyed.
Speaker 4: I just think Saturday is going to be a big.
Speaker 6: Tail for a lot of guys, because I gotta call
Speaker 6: it all Oxnarch. A lot of dudes will look good
Speaker 6: out here at ox start on these practice fields, but
Speaker 6: can you do it when.
Speaker 4: The lights are on at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 6: That's where you're going to see some guys step up,
Speaker 6: and you're going to see some guys that trink. Mike
Speaker 6: McCarthy spoke about how he's not even looking at his FITU.
Speaker 6: He's like, I don't have the fifty three man roster
Speaker 6: in my mindset. I don't even go through it, he said,
Speaker 6: because I know there's gonna be some guys that go
Speaker 6: out here on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Night and make you say WHOA. And I think Mike's
Speaker 4: one hundred percent right about that.
Speaker 3: I got a question for you, Knui, just because I've
Speaker 3: been I've been reading and hearing that there's been a
Speaker 3: lot of ones versus ones out there training counts all right,
Speaker 3: and we all get to see, of course, because the
Speaker 3: media is gonna blow it out of proportion that Dak
Speaker 3: is throwing interceptions, whatever whatever is going on. What are
Speaker 3: you seeing out there when because you get to see
Speaker 3: it in its entirety?
Speaker 2: What are you seeing from Dak?
Speaker 3: As far as does he look different based on the
Speaker 3: changes that are made with Mike McCarthy calling the plays
Speaker 3: now versus Killen Moore? Is he trying to figure it out?
Speaker 3: Or is he just really smooth? And the and the
Speaker 3: internet is just finding those you know, those practice players
Speaker 3: where the defense gets the best of the offense.
Speaker 6: I we all play fantasy football here. I don't know
Speaker 6: about heck, but you know that we play. Go get
Speaker 6: him early, Okay, go get him okay because last years,
Speaker 6: as much as people pointed the finger at him, outside
Speaker 6: of CD Lamb, it was the Madies.
Speaker 4: That's not that case anymore.
Speaker 6: Cede Lamb has gotten better, believe it or not, he's
Speaker 6: gotten better.
Speaker 4: Brandon Cooks, he's just good.
Speaker 6: I remember talking to uh to Al Harris and we're asking, hey,
Speaker 6: what is Brandon Cooks bring? He's like happen speed man.
Speaker 6: He's a really really good football player. And then then
Speaker 6: you got Michael Gallup, who's comfortable out here making one
Speaker 6: hand catches. So just the players around Dak at the
Speaker 6: wide receiver position are better.
Speaker 4: Who you know, Gallup could be receiving a lot of
Speaker 4: one on one coverage.
Speaker 6: If Cook stays healthy, and if Lamb is just the
Speaker 6: guy we've seen out here at camp continuing to get better,
Speaker 6: you gotta.
Speaker 4: Watching Michael Galla. We go watch Jake Ferguson running around.
Speaker 6: You know, basically unchecked or just you know, just just
Speaker 6: having men on man coverage.
Speaker 4: So that's why I said, man, go get go, get yourself.
Speaker 6: Dak Prescott last year, Jalen Hurts was a guy went
Speaker 6: and got fantasy. In fact, I got Jalen Hurts the
Speaker 6: last two years Dak Prescott. That and you know watching
Speaker 6: Dak even run run some bootlegs here in the k.
Speaker 6: So I'm just gonna tell you, man, anybody worried, if
Speaker 6: you if you worried about Dak Prescott, then you probably
Speaker 6: are watching too much of these these debate shows. This
Speaker 6: this guy looks good out here, and you need help.
Speaker 6: Why did Jalen Hurts have the year he had because
Speaker 6: they gave him some help. Why is Tua looking good
Speaker 6: last year because they gave him some dog on help.
Speaker 6: Dak didn't have it last year. People like, oh, he's
Speaker 6: not this, he's not that.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. How you supposed to win with James Washington.
Speaker 3: Anybody went with James Washington? No, So, so what you're
Speaker 3: saying is the new play caller. Okay, looks like it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a positive.
Speaker 4: Hey, man, I hate to tell you Barry Church.
Speaker 6: Get buried the way the way the way you sit
Speaker 6: around here and you take this beating from Danny and
Speaker 6: I about Joe Burrow, about your boy or Justin Herbert,
Speaker 6: I think you're gonna be taking that same beating. They're
Speaker 6: gonna take the same beating. Man, gonna be fine. Man,
Speaker 6: You're gonna be looking up like, Wow, should have done
Speaker 6: this years ago. Should have listened to Danny years ago.
Speaker 2: That's what we're doing. Yeah, he on fire right now.
Speaker 3: I haven't even bought my new battery yet, but I'm
Speaker 3: gonna switch over to the other side man, because I
Speaker 3: want to talk about this defense, especially say a bad
Speaker 3: word here. Freeze up safety, No, you didn't freeze up
Speaker 3: You're good safeties and you know how it has been
Speaker 3: with safeties around here. But Malik Hooker signed a new contract,
Speaker 3: which is which in cowboy Land.
Speaker 2: That's good news.
Speaker 3: You backed the second went out, You backed that position
Speaker 3: up with Malik Hooker. You get Donovan Wilson in signing
Speaker 3: his contract as well. What do you guys feel about
Speaker 3: the safeties in the way they solidified their group.
Speaker 2: I'm pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 3: I mean, to me, this is the first time and
Speaker 3: since I can remember that the Cowboys have put this
Speaker 3: many dollars into the safety unit, and rightfully so. I mean,
Speaker 3: you got the three headed monster right now. You got
Speaker 3: Donovan Wilson, who's kind of that tone setter downhill, will
Speaker 3: hit you in the mouth. You got a curse who's
Speaker 3: you know, versatile, can play all types of positions. And
Speaker 3: you got your middle of a field guy who has
Speaker 3: unbelievable range. And Malik Hooker, who a lot of people
Speaker 3: including myself by that man off that for those injuries
Speaker 3: that he sustained. You know at ACL I think he
Speaker 3: had an achilles as well. He was like, I don't
Speaker 3: know if he still got that juice, but you see,
Speaker 3: the guy can get off the hash, you can make
Speaker 3: plays in the deep end. And that's what this This
Speaker 3: Cowboys safety unit has been missing for a long time.
Speaker 3: So to me, they allocated the dollars into the right people.
Speaker 3: Now when you talk about you know that guy Curse,
Speaker 3: you know, you got Donald getting paid a lot of ducats,
Speaker 3: you got Hooker getting paid a lot of duckets, and
Speaker 3: then you see a guy like Curse, who a lot
Speaker 3: of people's you know, was the defensive captain, was a
Speaker 3: playmaker out there as far as getting everybody orchestrated. You
Speaker 3: gotta start thinking in his mind. Man, So what does
Speaker 3: that leave me? You know, you got guys coming.
Speaker 4: Up on a hole.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just kind of the odd man out. So
Speaker 3: to me, Kurse got a lot to think about. But
Speaker 3: where they put those dolls in that Safts unit. They
Speaker 3: needed to do that because those guys are a great players.
Speaker 6: Hey, I got audio back here, Church, that's what piggyback
Speaker 6: on what you said.
Speaker 4: Uh, Stephen Jones wasn't here.
Speaker 6: He was at cancer with his dad for DeMarcus whereas
Speaker 6: enshrine in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And by
Speaker 6: the way, congratulations, do you wear a beautiful speech? I'm
Speaker 6: gonna ask him and see if I can get a
Speaker 6: hold of him after practice, because the thing that I
Speaker 6: like to know was Curse offered a deal and they
Speaker 6: couldn't come to numbers, because I know the first thought
Speaker 6: is like, okay, well what about JK and who dan
Speaker 6: Quinn is going out of his way to praise, who
Speaker 6: played like a warrior last year for the guys.
Speaker 4: How come he's not getting the bag.
Speaker 6: Did they approach him and then him say well, we
Speaker 6: couldn't agree to numbers or I wanted this, or I
Speaker 6: wanted that, or the team's you know, there's just other
Speaker 6: things that go into it that I'd like to see
Speaker 6: what is happening there, and maybe Steven will give us
Speaker 6: some insight because I just think at times we just
Speaker 6: want to assume that maybe the team doesn't like the player,
Speaker 6: but the player and the team have to come together
Speaker 6: and say what do I want. I spoke to Malik
Speaker 6: Hooker afterwards with other people, and Hooker said he likes
Speaker 6: living here, didn't want to go to a different system.
Speaker 6: And I think this also speaks to the fact that
Speaker 6: what these guys feel about DQ Joett Jr. About what
Speaker 6: they're running and how comfortable they feel they are. So
Speaker 6: you take a little bit of less money, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean understand guys who want to go get in
Speaker 6: the bag. But Hooker had an affinity for being here
Speaker 6: and wanted to be here that much I know, so
Speaker 6: he probably took less dollars.
Speaker 2: Danny.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, you obviously being a safety
Speaker 3: in the NFL, if you're a jiron curse, being that
Speaker 3: leader on this team, being a green dot guy at
Speaker 3: times on this team, and know the role that you play,
Speaker 3: are you okay with seeing other guys obviously get paid
Speaker 3: in front of you, knowing that, hey man, this year
Speaker 3: could be pretty big for you and you could be
Speaker 3: a guy that's in line to get paid big dollars
Speaker 3: next year. Oh yeah, I guess I'll have to put it,
Speaker 3: uh in terms of how I would feel if if
Speaker 3: I wasn't offered a deal. Right, So we're just gonna
Speaker 3: assume that he wasn't offered the deal he could have been.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna just go from that assumption.
Speaker 3: I'm incentivized at this point one to make you pay
Speaker 3: for not paying me, Right, I'm a ball out this
Speaker 3: season and then find out who wants to really get
Speaker 3: me the bag and I'm I'm and I'm chunking deuces
Speaker 3: on y'all too. I'm hoping DQ get out of here
Speaker 3: next year, and he takes me with him, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's all right with d Q Lee's. I know I'm
Speaker 3: the guy, I'm not tied to Dallas, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: might feel a little slighted if I didn't get offered
Speaker 3: the deal and the other two safeties or offer one
Speaker 3: of I'm the green dot guy, I'm the leader on
Speaker 3: the defense, and oh yeah, by the way I've been balling. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm I feel a little way. But us as athletes,
Speaker 3: that's what happens, man, when they say you have a
Speaker 3: chip on your shoulder like some like some business decisions
Speaker 3: make you. They put that chip on your shoulders or
Speaker 3: turned it into a boulder, and then maybe you see
Speaker 3: the guy come out and having even better seasons than
Speaker 3: he had previously, and he'd be laughing his way to
Speaker 3: the bank next season. But I know Malie Hooker and
Speaker 3: then be seeing them no state taxes, man, that's what up.
Speaker 2: To get nothing motivation? You like money. But I got
Speaker 2: to ask you this, Nuie.
Speaker 3: If you're Zach Martin and you see the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: make these signs.
Speaker 2: How does that.
Speaker 3: Affect you, especially when you holding out for more dollars?
Speaker 6: I think you can, okay, if I'm looking at it
Speaker 6: just kind of putting on a hat of both sides.
Speaker 6: If I'm looking at the Zach side, you say, hey, man,
Speaker 6: you've committed dollars and you've paid other people before. Other
Speaker 6: folks have jumped out of line and you've paid them.
Speaker 6: I'm a Hall of Fame football player. You can take
Speaker 6: care of me if you want to. On the flip side,
Speaker 6: you're the Cowboys, say hey, we've given you your money.
Speaker 6: We paid you at the top, You're first round draft pick.
Speaker 6: You were taking care of there. We have the leverage,
Speaker 6: we don't have to pay you going And I had
Speaker 6: a good conversation I'm gonna put up with Todd Archer
Speaker 6: on the NBCD have to be website light on about
Speaker 6: how you go into missing games, you know, regular season games.
Speaker 4: It's money you will not get back.
Speaker 6: It's it's you know, starts messing with your contract and
Speaker 6: escalators and things within that that you don't want to do.
Speaker 6: So I just at this point in time, Todd Archer
Speaker 6: ESPN has and Todd has a good relationship with Zach
Speaker 6: but he really does feel you're not going to see
Speaker 6: Zach Martin miss any regular season games and this will
Speaker 6: just be a training camp thing that he will be
Speaker 6: there week number one, and with the kind of Hall
Speaker 6: of Fame resume that he is putting up, you don't
Speaker 6: want to miss another opportunity to be an all pro
Speaker 6: guard World War time, to have more statistics that go
Speaker 6: your way when they go into the room to vote
Speaker 6: on the Hall of Fame and rubber stamp you as
Speaker 6: a first ballot guy.
Speaker 4: So that, to me, I think is your hope.
Speaker 6: And I think Jerry has a I think they feel
Speaker 6: the same way that he's not going to miss regular
Speaker 6: season games. So you know, Mike McCarthy's come out here
Speaker 6: and said he's not worried about Zach Martin.
Speaker 3: So you don't see this having any type of how
Speaker 3: m Smith held out back. And I believe it was
Speaker 3: like ninety five or ninety six where we missed the
Speaker 3: first couple of games and then Charles Haley went over
Speaker 3: there and said, hey, y'all gotta pay this man so
Speaker 3: we can get back on track. You don't see that
Speaker 3: type of situation happening with Zach Martin.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna put this out here for Emmitt Smith,
Speaker 6: and please never when you never see him, don't ever
Speaker 6: say he held out, because he's still sensitive about that.
Speaker 4: He's like, I did not hold out.
Speaker 6: My contract was expired, So you can't hold out if
Speaker 6: you have an expired contract. And Jerry was trying to
Speaker 6: get him on the cheat. Emmitt's like, pay me more
Speaker 6: than Barry Sanders. I've won a Super Bowl, I've led
Speaker 6: the league in rushing. Pay me, and Jerry was like no.
Speaker 6: So they lose the first two games and go back
Speaker 6: to what this was at the time. This was an
Speaker 6: offense that was predicated on the run. As great as
Speaker 6: quarterback as Troutman was, Jimmy was running the football. There's
Speaker 6: no doubt he was the most valuable player on that team.
Speaker 6: And the engine that they had to have two games go,
Speaker 6: they lose them. At that point in time, no team
Speaker 6: had ever gone zero to to and won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: So everybody's frustrated, sponsors are mad, and then boom, Jerry
Speaker 6: goes and makes the deal. Zach Martin, in my opinion,
Speaker 6: he's not going to be that. I don't see him
Speaker 6: being that lynchpin that if the Cowboys go oh and two,
Speaker 6: I says, Oh, my gosh, you gotta pay Zach. I
Speaker 6: also don't think that Zach Martin will will miss the
Speaker 6: first two games, because, as I said, you go back
Speaker 6: into the kind of money that you will lose and
Speaker 6: how it affects the rest of your contract.
Speaker 4: I just don't see that happen.
Speaker 2: He's an eleven time Emmy winner. Knew he shruggs the.
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Speaker 2: Slash Star back in after Teenagers.
Speaker 3: It's playing Loude and man, new he gave us some nuggets.
Speaker 2: He did. He gave us some nuggets, all right.
Speaker 3: A lot of the insight on what's going on with
Speaker 3: the way that the Cowboys are looking at Zach Martin,
Speaker 3: the thought process with Malie Hooker and signing that contract,
Speaker 3: and the guys that are pushing.
Speaker 2: The envelope down there in our start.
Speaker 3: And man, it's gonna get interesting when these cuts start
Speaker 3: to happen in the next couple of weeks. Man, it's
Speaker 3: gonna I believe it's gonna be some names on that
Speaker 3: that's gonna shock everybody. And I mean, I know, look,
Speaker 3: it's still got to play out. We still gotta look
Speaker 3: at the preseason. But you guys know it, there are
Speaker 3: no shoe ins at certain positions. It doesn't matter even
Speaker 3: about draft pick where you got drafted. It may be
Speaker 3: interior line, safety, receiver, things like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all starting to play out.
Speaker 3: But one of the things I want to talk to
Speaker 3: y'all specifically about is locker room chemistry, locker room leadership.
Speaker 3: You guys know how important that is. And guys on
Speaker 3: this team seem like they like each other, love each other.
Speaker 3: They kick it with each other outside of the facility.
Speaker 3: But the bigger thing I think that you guys have
Speaker 3: talked about I've heard you talk about before. It's just
Speaker 3: the leadership part on this team. You bring in Stephan Gilmour,
Speaker 3: you bring in a Brandan Cooks and players like that
Speaker 3: that obviously are making an impact on your team. Talk
Speaker 3: about how important that is and where this could actually
Speaker 3: be such a positive thing for a team that was
Speaker 3: already finishing twelve and five last season.
Speaker 2: I'll start with you. Yeah, I think it's been instant.
Speaker 3: I mean you could just listen to to Treyvon Diggs,
Speaker 3: who was who was our best corner for the last
Speaker 3: few years, breaking records, doing everything he can to be better.
Speaker 3: His brother is Stephan Di's plays in the league, so
Speaker 3: he already has the idea of how to be a professional.
Speaker 3: And then you get a guy like Stepan Gilmour to
Speaker 3: come in, comes in and he's like, oh man, I'm
Speaker 3: learning a lot from this dude. Like this dude is
Speaker 3: showing me how to be a better professional, what he
Speaker 3: does to be as good as he's been for so long.
Speaker 2: And how I can be better.
Speaker 3: He said, all right, Stephan dig like he just got
Speaker 3: paid one hundred million dollars and he still he's still
Speaker 3: looking at another guy saying I can be better than
Speaker 3: what I am based off what I'm learning from him.
Speaker 3: And then the same thing with Ceedee Lamb in the
Speaker 3: roide receiver room, he's talking to Cooks and he's saying, Hey, well,
Speaker 3: I'm getting all these little tip bits from him, and
Speaker 3: I think I can make my game be a little
Speaker 3: bit better based off of what I've learned from him.
Speaker 3: And I think when you're in the locker room, when
Speaker 3: you have guys in your position, group meeting, who can
Speaker 3: give you those those nuggets, who can who has the
Speaker 3: experience for you to say I respect what he's saying,
Speaker 3: right because most of the time, if it's somebody who's
Speaker 3: been no shoes in that position, you're gonna listen to
Speaker 3: them versus somebody who hasn't done it.
Speaker 2: The same thing on the coaching side.
Speaker 3: So I think when you have guys like that in
Speaker 3: the locker room, in those positions of meeting rooms.
Speaker 2: I think it's just it just helps you.
Speaker 3: And that's why I think you see the team being
Speaker 3: a lot more competitive. They're a lot closer now where
Speaker 3: they can throw the ball at each other after a
Speaker 3: play in this and if not a big deal, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, because it's some locker rooms that'll
Speaker 3: be a fight, like like what.
Speaker 2: You throw the ball at me? For now?
Speaker 3: These dudes they close enough for it to say, you know, man,
Speaker 3: this is all competition and we're good and this is
Speaker 3: gonna make us better. Yeah, it's huge to have leadership
Speaker 3: in the locker room. I mean, some of the teams
Speaker 3: that I have been on, the better teams that I've
Speaker 3: been on, we were extremely close and extremely tight. You
Speaker 3: had those veteran leaders to show the youngsters out there
Speaker 3: how to go about things. I mean, to me, it's
Speaker 3: important when you talk about leadership. There's two type of leaders.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a vocal leader and then you got
Speaker 3: your lead by example leader. And to me, I think
Speaker 3: the Cowboys cover both bases. When you look at the
Speaker 3: defensive side of the football, you look at step On Gilmore,
Speaker 3: who he's kind of a quiet guy, not a really
Speaker 3: vocal guy out there. He's kind of just like, this
Speaker 3: is why I'm gonna do it. If you want to
Speaker 3: be successful, this is just follow my lead, follow my example.
Speaker 2: And Diggs's done it a great job doing that. As well
Speaker 2: as the other corners.
Speaker 3: They've done a great job learning from the lead back
Speaker 3: example type of guy like Gilmore is. And then when
Speaker 3: you talk about vocal leadership, a guy that's gonna get
Speaker 3: the team hype, the guy that's gonna run through a
Speaker 3: brick wall and have everybody run through with them, you
Speaker 3: talk about a guy like de Marcus Lawrence. I mean
Speaker 3: he's always out there hyping this team up, making sure
Speaker 3: this team is always on their.
Speaker 2: P's and q's.
Speaker 3: So defensively, you got that understanding that you have that
Speaker 3: vocal leader, you have that lead back example leader, you know,
Speaker 3: on you off of the side of the ball.
Speaker 2: The same thing.
Speaker 3: You look at a guy like Dak Prescott vocal and
Speaker 3: lead by example. And you got Brandon Cooks out there
Speaker 3: who's not really the most vocal guy, but he goes
Speaker 3: out there and he takes the top off of defenses
Speaker 3: and shows these young receivers how to go about how
Speaker 3: to be a professional each and every day. And I
Speaker 3: think that's great for this team and hopefully they can
Speaker 3: come together as a whole and be that tight unit
Speaker 3: that we all think they are. Take at the distance,
Speaker 3: I mean, they know they've got a lot to do.
Speaker 3: You know, he's got this on paper right now. But
Speaker 3: as far as leadership is concerned, I think this team
Speaker 3: has all the bases checked now. As you went down
Speaker 3: the line, I thought, I was like, man, okay, all right,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the players and the position groups and
Speaker 3: who the leaders are. I'm like than you know, as
Speaker 3: I look at that running back room, who is this
Speaker 3: void of leadership right now?
Speaker 2: Who is it?
Speaker 3: Because all I've heard about Tony Poller is he's a
Speaker 3: quiet guy.
Speaker 2: He's one of those lead by example guys.
Speaker 3: But who's the guy to get everybody together, get you
Speaker 3: hanging out, making sure we're staying after the watch film.
Speaker 2: Who's ordering the wingstop? Right?
Speaker 3: Hey, everybody coming here after practice? I got wingstop for us,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna look at a few more players to
Speaker 3: make sure that we're all on the same pace. Who
Speaker 3: is that guy? It has to be Tony Pollard, right.
Speaker 3: You think that he's getting outside of his own bubble
Speaker 3: to be that vocal guy because he's a veteran. Now
Speaker 3: he's seen it done. So I'll say this. I'll say
Speaker 3: this from my experience, some guys are are just one type.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like.
Speaker 3: Something guys have a hard time going from I lead
Speaker 3: by example, watch me play, and then going to the
Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence role of like, Okay, now I'm speaking on
Speaker 3: it and now I'm doing both. Like everybody doesn't really
Speaker 3: have that that characteristic characteristic in them.
Speaker 2: That's very true.
Speaker 3: And as for me, I mean, I take myself as
Speaker 3: an example. I'm more of a lead by example, Like
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go out there and be this raw,
Speaker 3: raw leader and.
Speaker 2: You got everybody just falling. You got a rucker.
Speaker 4: No I'm not.
Speaker 2: I've never been the by example.
Speaker 3: But I've also had leaders with me that I'm thankful for,
Speaker 3: like a Sean Lee or or DeMarcus Ware or somebody
Speaker 3: like that who can take that vocal presence away from
Speaker 3: because I know I'm not the guy that everybody rally
Speaker 3: around me. All right, this is how we're gonna break
Speaker 3: things down. I was never that type of guy. So
Speaker 3: you got to have two type of leaders on this team,
Speaker 3: and hopefully for that running back room, somebody can step up.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about something that you just mentioned
Speaker 3: with you said DeMarcus Lawrence, but you also talked about
Speaker 3: Dak and one of the stories that I got from
Speaker 3: training camp I got this from Nate talking in the
Speaker 3: other day was about Dak. It was eleven on eleven,
Speaker 3: send me for holk ran around. He cut it off short,
Speaker 3: Dak through the ball. It was one of those ones
Speaker 3: that was intercepted. Dak gets Simmy coming back to the
Speaker 3: huddle and not so much brates him in front of
Speaker 3: the team or whatever, but you know that there was
Speaker 3: at one on one time to talk to him about
Speaker 3: what he did wrong. Because they're obviously learning a new
Speaker 3: offense the time it may be a little bit off,
Speaker 3: but still letting him know that, Look, this is where
Speaker 3: I need you to be. Dak coming into this season,
Speaker 3: obviously so much riding on it, so much expectation on
Speaker 3: his shoulders, because at the end of the day, everybody's
Speaker 3: going to be talking about him. When you think about
Speaker 3: him as a leader and at the quarterback position, from
Speaker 3: all the other thirty one quarterbacks there is in the league,
Speaker 3: do you think that there's anything maybe lacking in.
Speaker 2: His leadership over the years.
Speaker 3: It's hard to say about the guy being Walter Payton
Speaker 3: Man of the Year, but some way that he can
Speaker 3: step his game up as a leader. I'll be honest
Speaker 3: with you and in my opinion. I think Dak is
Speaker 3: probably one of the best leaders I've ever been around
Speaker 3: in the locker room.
Speaker 2: I mean period.
Speaker 3: I mean from a young guy, from a rookie until now.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's grown unbelievably and he understands that you
Speaker 3: can't talk to each player or motivate each player the
Speaker 3: same way. You know, he went over to Semi Fooko,
Speaker 3: as you said, he didn't, you know, berate him and
Speaker 3: say you got to get that. He kind of just
Speaker 3: talked to him and say, hey, this is how you
Speaker 3: need to do this routing. Hopefully you know later on
Speaker 3: in that practice he was able to do the right thing.
Speaker 3: Some guys you can yell at and motivate them and say,
Speaker 3: hey man, you playing like you know what you need
Speaker 3: to get your you know, button gear, and some guys
Speaker 3: you can't. You got to learn how to motivate people.
Speaker 3: And I think Dak does an amazing job of treating
Speaker 3: each individual teammate out there different and his leadership style
Speaker 3: to me is his second to none. It's a fine
Speaker 3: line between that, right, especially when the end result is
Speaker 3: of falling in your lap. Seventeen interceptions last season, and
Speaker 3: let's say maybe five of those were based off of
Speaker 3: tip passes.
Speaker 2: If you're Dak, aren't.
Speaker 3: You like, look, I'm crawling all over you about simple
Speaker 3: mistakes like that because eminently it falls on me.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I.
Speaker 3: Think if you look at the trajectory of some of
Speaker 3: the greatest quarterbacks that we've been able to see, the
Speaker 3: pay Manning's, the Aaron Rodgers, the Tom Brady's, Right, what
Speaker 3: do you start to see as as they go deep
Speaker 3: in their career and they have the young guys who
Speaker 3: come in and don't know what they're doing or they're
Speaker 3: dropping passes, you start to see that.
Speaker 2: You start to see it go.
Speaker 3: From hey man, I'm I'm I'm trying to work with
Speaker 3: you to like, hey listen, if you ain't gonna do it,
Speaker 3: we get you out of there. And I think that's
Speaker 3: the next progression of Dak's leadership, right. I think I
Speaker 3: think you're gonna get to the point to where it's like,
Speaker 3: hey man, listen, I love you, okay, but I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you this. If I know that you ain't been
Speaker 3: working out during the summer, and I notice you don't
Speaker 3: know what's going on because you're sleeping in the meetings,
Speaker 3: and then I get out there and you're not running
Speaker 3: the right route and you're dropping passes that I used
Speaker 3: to Hey man, you're gonna be okay, that's gonna change
Speaker 3: to a co going to the sideline. Though, going to
Speaker 3: the sideline, we're gonna bring somebody else in who I
Speaker 3: know has been working hard and I know they want
Speaker 3: to maximize the opportunity that I'm gonna give them. I
Speaker 3: think that's the next progression of it, because if you
Speaker 3: continue to see stuff like guys dropping pastes and going
Speaker 3: and it's going for U interceptions or making the wrong reads,
Speaker 3: you know, based on whatever the coverage you're showing, and
Speaker 3: they running the wrong route, and that ends up in
Speaker 3: the exception, I think you're gonna start to see like,
Speaker 3: hey man, I got guys, I got Cooks, Yeah all right,
Speaker 3: I got Ceedee Lamb, and I got Michael Gallup and
Speaker 3: then the rest of y'all. Y'all just gonna have to
Speaker 3: figure it out because I'm not taking a chance on
Speaker 3: y'all because y'all are letting me down. I mean, like,
Speaker 3: classic example of what you're seeing is that goes to
Speaker 3: the to the podium after the Jacksonville game, throws the
Speaker 3: ball to Noah Brown, hits him in the bread basket,
Speaker 3: goes right to the other player, runs it back for
Speaker 3: a touchdown. He puts that on himself. Now, if you
Speaker 3: go to other quarterbacks, I won't call him back. But
Speaker 3: come on, man, they will throw you up. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: will throw you under the bus.
Speaker 2: You gotta have guys. He will throw you under the bus.
Speaker 2: But that is the quarterback that will put it on himself.
Speaker 3: And that to me, like, that's a difference in leadership,
Speaker 3: especially when you talk about a guy someone like Tom
Speaker 3: Brady that all doll cousin receiver on the sideline. Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers will throw you under the bus at a press conference.
Speaker 3: Dak will do none of it and take all of
Speaker 3: the responsibility that comes with it. And some quarterbacks you
Speaker 3: know that we've played with, they will make you'll make
Speaker 3: a mistake like that. They won't even say nothing to you.
Speaker 3: They'll just go to the coach and you know, man,
Speaker 3: why am I only playing you know, ten snaps instead
Speaker 3: of forty snaps. So these guys are lucky that they
Speaker 3: have a guy like that that cares enough to say,
Speaker 3: you know, hey, I'm gonna bring you to the sizes.
Speaker 3: You know, this is what you need to do better, because,
Speaker 3: like I said, we played with a guy at what
Speaker 3: you're doing? All right, I'm the coach real quick, and
Speaker 3: I got to answer, at what point does it change?
Speaker 2: Because I was true because I'm not I'm not talking
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I wasn't talking about the guys who will go and
Speaker 3: get you in the in the media right when they
Speaker 3: come to the podium and they say, well this guy
Speaker 3: did whatever. I'm talking about the guy who had practiced
Speaker 3: when you drop a past and you running in he said, no,
Speaker 3: go back to the sideline. Jason Witten would do a
Speaker 3: guy like that, Hey man, you don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 3: Don't get him sideline man going to the same middle
Speaker 3: of play, Hey, coach, man, this dude, get him about it.
Speaker 3: But he had that also helped. God, they respected him
Speaker 3: when he said go to the sideline. They ain't say well, coach,
Speaker 3: They be like we said, I got to get out.
Speaker 3: But I think that is I think that's the progression
Speaker 3: of the leadership to where you say, hey man, I've
Speaker 3: been around teams uh in instances where this type of
Speaker 3: stuff right here has cost us in big moments and
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let that continue. To cost us in
Speaker 3: big moments, So you got to go until you can
Speaker 3: get it figured out. And like I said, I think
Speaker 3: that's the next progression of of that. He's an amazing leader,
Speaker 3: but it's you know, sometime you be like, hey man,
Speaker 3: we didnet got so close so many times. And this
Speaker 3: ain't on me, right, this on guys. This on guys
Speaker 3: that I see. I'm I'm gonna take it in at
Speaker 3: the podium, you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. But this is on guys who I know, like.
Speaker 3: When we're working out, when we go to Miami, all right,
Speaker 3: you didn't come like that, like that, that is when
Speaker 3: you say all right, now, I understand that when you
Speaker 3: when you got to say, man, you you're not the
Speaker 3: one sad line. So I think it'll get there, you know,
Speaker 3: especially your start winning some Super Bowl gonna be like,
Speaker 3: hey man, I know I know the length of an
Speaker 3: NFL career and uh and we didn't and we didn't
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Speaker 3: about my guy Michael Parsons. If y'all been noticing Michael
Speaker 3: is wrecking, let's getting to the point where let's getting
Speaker 3: to the point where they can't even run plays. He's
Speaker 3: that disruptive in camp. When do you I mean, come on, man,
Speaker 3: you guys look played in the league know full well
Speaker 3: that's how I.
Speaker 2: New he does that. You guys sitting over there like.
Speaker 3: You guys literally and you have played with some special
Speaker 3: players like Won DeMarcus, which you want to talk talk
Speaker 3: about when we get about of here. Uh. When you
Speaker 3: have a guy like this that's dominating and you know
Speaker 3: you want his best stuff for the season. If you're
Speaker 3: the coaches, are you saying, look, let's dial this kid
Speaker 3: back a little big, you know, send him over there
Speaker 3: with Britt Brown.
Speaker 2: I don't care what you do. We need to save
Speaker 2: all this for the regular season when.
Speaker 3: It comes, you know, full padded practices and all that.
Speaker 3: You know, he's still young enough for I'm gonna put
Speaker 3: him out there for the full path. I'm gonna let
Speaker 3: him do his thing. You know, he's the vocal leader,
Speaker 3: he's almost, you know, the face of the franchise outside
Speaker 3: of d So to me, I'm gonna let him do
Speaker 3: his thing out there. But when it comes to these
Speaker 3: preseason games, we've seen enough. All right, sit your but
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 2: With Britt Brown.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't even let him dress out for
Speaker 3: the game because you know the type of man he
Speaker 3: is in the type of guy he is. If he's
Speaker 3: dressing out there, he's gonna want to get on the field,
Speaker 3: And to me, it's just it's not worth the risk
Speaker 3: out there for a preseason game. We've seen it happen
Speaker 3: time and time again where guys will go out there
Speaker 3: for their ten snaps and on that nice snap, something
Speaker 3: crazy happens.
Speaker 2: And to me, the big.
Speaker 3: Mazukah Aka Parsons, he's a guy that you can't afford
Speaker 3: to lose, all right, especially for this team. I feel
Speaker 3: like he's, you know, basically the fire of this team
Speaker 3: and he gets everything going in the right motion. So
Speaker 3: for me, preseason now you go ahead and set over
Speaker 3: there with Brett Brown, get some of the bands done.
Speaker 3: But I'm not, I'm not messing with in the preseason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not asking for him
Speaker 2: to go out there and play.
Speaker 3: Now, get he get a couple of snaps like a series,
Speaker 3: and in the third one if they all played and
Speaker 3: then then I kind of understand that, But not do
Speaker 3: we need to.
Speaker 2: See anything from him? No? No, we know how good.
Speaker 2: We know he went and got better.
Speaker 3: So all the stories of him going to talk to
Speaker 3: some of the best offensive lineman there to play the
Speaker 3: game in our generation and getting tips from them on
Speaker 3: how to be better, so we know that he's put
Speaker 3: in the work. I mean, I feel the same way
Speaker 3: same way about him as I feel about a guy
Speaker 3: like Ceedee Lamb. I feel about a guy like Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 3: Like do I need to see him in the preseason?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: And I think Mike McCarthy is sending it up perfectly
Speaker 3: by making sure that there's a lot of ones versus
Speaker 3: ones in the preseason, right, Because what happens is if
Speaker 3: you believe that you have a top five defense, okay,
Speaker 3: you're probably not going to get better competition in the preseason, right,
Speaker 3: You're probably the best competition that you're going to get
Speaker 3: before the regular season is probably in practice, right, so
Speaker 3: they're getting all the reps they need to get. Michael
Speaker 3: Parsons is going up against Tyron Smith, who's healthy right now,
Speaker 3: so he's probably getting the best look that he's gonna
Speaker 3: get before he gets into the regular season. So I
Speaker 3: don't expect to see them much should we do maybe
Speaker 3: a series, But outside of that, nah, I want them
Speaker 3: to stay healthy because what happens is it doesn't even
Speaker 3: have to be a major injury at acl Achilles any
Speaker 3: of that. Just something nagging injury. The first four weeks
Speaker 3: of your season. It's like I'm a little slower than
Speaker 3: I should be because I tweaked something. Yes, that's what
Speaker 3: I'm That's what I'm talking about. You guys are two
Speaker 3: KGI veterans, You played a lot of years in the NFL.
Speaker 3: You have a guy on your team that can make
Speaker 3: you money, okay, a guy that can make you money, okay.
Speaker 3: You have a one percenter of all the dogs that
Speaker 3: are quote unquote dolls in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I don't want him to have any of that.
Speaker 3: A tweet Cami a tweet, quad or finger or any
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 2: He is what he is.
Speaker 3: The debate about him being a linebacker versus defensive end,
Speaker 3: that's over with.
Speaker 2: He's a defensive end, okay.
Speaker 3: And now, even with the experience that he has, he
Speaker 3: is one of the best in the NFL. I don't
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even dare think that he would play a
Speaker 3: preseason game. But at this point it's making it hard
Speaker 3: on this offense just to.
Speaker 2: Get a look.
Speaker 3: Okay, well listen, okay, we noticed s o officive line.
Speaker 3: All right, So I will always tell this story. I
Speaker 3: will always tell it.
Speaker 2: Man. When I went to Chicago, all.
Speaker 3: Right, we was balling in training camp against our offense,
Speaker 3: killing them. I mean I must have by four picks
Speaker 3: in a training camp. I got the start job and
Speaker 3: everything all that. I say, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna
Speaker 3: be nice when we get into the regular season, because
Speaker 3: the Bears had beat the brakes off of us when
Speaker 3: we went up there.
Speaker 2: They did, they did. Man.
Speaker 3: We got out there only to realize that our offense
Speaker 3: was absolutely trans We the office was so transhed. We
Speaker 3: thought we was great. Then we played the offense that
Speaker 3: was averaged and they read it up on us, Okay,
Speaker 3: so you never know. Okay, So let's say we know
Speaker 3: that the offensive line right now is going through Zach Martin. There,
Speaker 3: Tyrn Smith is trying to figure it back out again
Speaker 3: at this point, but he's also probably in his mind,
Speaker 3: like I still need to stay healthy, trying to make
Speaker 3: sure that nothing happens, and then you shuffling for the
Speaker 3: rest of your offensive line. Tylers Smith playing little guard.
Speaker 3: We know that his natural positions left time, so he's
Speaker 3: still figuring that out as a second year player. So
Speaker 3: that's some of the headaches that you expect to have.
Speaker 3: And then when you got a guy like Mark Michael Parsons,
Speaker 3: who's that great. Yeah, he's gonna wreck your practice break.
Speaker 3: He's not even gonna give you opportunity to really find
Speaker 3: that shuffle out. They probably got to put him on
Speaker 3: the sideline so they can see what they can pass
Speaker 3: off with what they can't, you know, who can really
Speaker 3: play the game. Because it's not a fair assessment of
Speaker 3: a guy that's going against the Michael Parsons every snap
Speaker 3: to say is he a guy who could play in
Speaker 3: the league, because he's not even it's not fair.
Speaker 2: It's not fair.
Speaker 3: He has to get a look against a guy who
Speaker 3: he may be actually going.
Speaker 2: Against that type of tier. He's a Michael Parson's tier one.
Speaker 3: Okay, on average, you're probably going against tier two, tier
Speaker 3: three at the most average. Okay, So puts on them
Speaker 3: tier three guys and then and then let them go
Speaker 3: against the office line and see what happens. Well, look, guys,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw over the weekend one of your
Speaker 3: former teammates getting shrine in too.
Speaker 2: I gotta be like that. Go out there and say that.
Speaker 3: The marks where your former teammate sung the national anthem
Speaker 3: and got his gold jacket. But man, a great speech,
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't give you guys just a minute to
Speaker 3: talk about a guy that you got an opportunity to
Speaker 3: play with getting.
Speaker 2: His gold jacket.
Speaker 3: No, without a doubt, I mean it's much deserved. When
Speaker 3: you talk about a pros pro, I mean the markers
Speaker 3: where his picture is gonna be in the dictionary. When
Speaker 3: you talk about that, I mean, this is a guy
Speaker 3: that you came to work early each and every day,
Speaker 3: stayed late. And he wasn't a selfish guy like this guy.
Speaker 3: He knew all the tricks of the trade, and he
Speaker 3: taught the younger guy. No matter if you were undrafted,
Speaker 3: if you were a sixth seventh round pick, He's gonna
Speaker 3: teach you the knowledge that he knew going in through
Speaker 3: this game.
Speaker 2: And he helped a lot of young guys out that way.
Speaker 3: And when we talk about his on field performance, I
Speaker 3: mean we came in his rookies.
Speaker 2: I mean it was just crazy.
Speaker 3: To see a guy his size be able to run
Speaker 3: as fast, bend the corners that he was able to
Speaker 3: and impact the game like he's able to so much deserved,
Speaker 3: I mean Hall of Fame for this guys. It was
Speaker 3: a deserved opportunity for him, and I'm glad he was
Speaker 3: able to get there.
Speaker 2: But we talked about singing that national anthem. My man
Speaker 2: was up there, like I love it.
Speaker 3: Though I love it. He did a good job. He
Speaker 3: did a good job. Word is great man. I love
Speaker 3: d Whir. I see him all the time now. He
Speaker 3: was my locker mate when I first got into the league.
Speaker 3: So that's a guy you want to sit next to
Speaker 3: if you want to try to figure out how to
Speaker 3: be a professional in the league and try to get
Speaker 3: some pointers on what you should do as a rookie,
Speaker 3: you know, trying to get your footing as you get
Speaker 3: into the league.
Speaker 2: I would say this.
Speaker 3: I think it may have been our second year where
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, d Word's great. We all know
Speaker 3: he's great, you know, And he played, he balled out,
Speaker 3: he had the club on.
Speaker 2: I think he got an interception with the club on.
Speaker 3: But the standout game to me, okay is the Philadelphia
Speaker 3: Eagles when they were the second coming of the Greatest
Speaker 3: Show on Turf and Michael Vick and Sean Jackson at
Speaker 3: all now and d Ware went out there and got
Speaker 3: full sacks on the guy and Michael Vick could still run,
Speaker 3: he was still rolling. Yeah, he went out there and got
Speaker 3: full sacks on the guy. And I'm just watching him.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is this is different, this is this
Speaker 3: is something totally different than you've ever see because you
Speaker 3: you already know he's great, and then you still have
Speaker 3: you still see it, and you say, oh, he's that great,
Speaker 3: Like there was never a limit to like how much
Speaker 3: he could do, like he always he could always go
Speaker 3: out there and surprised, you say, that's actually something I
Speaker 3: never thought I would see done in my time playing
Speaker 3: the game. So shout out to him. Super Bowl champion
Speaker 3: as well. So ye, great dude. Uh, well deserved man.
Speaker 3: I tell you what, man, this is one of those
Speaker 3: moments when you see a good guy get rewarded. And
Speaker 3: that's the market sware man. It's an awesome dude man
Speaker 3: all around. I haven't heard one person say anything bad
Speaker 3: about the Market Square ever, you know, so I'll check
Speaker 3: them if somebody like it's you, but much deserving into
Speaker 3: all of the recipients man.
Speaker 2: Reeves Island got in.
Speaker 3: It was some real dogs, man, some guys that played
Speaker 3: in this league and well deserved man to all of
Speaker 3: them in the weekend. Uh and can But that's a
Speaker 3: wrap for us here on the players lines.
Speaker 2: We came in, We did what we did.
Speaker 3: We'll be back on on Wednesday. Wednesday at one o'clock.
Speaker 3: I still got this in my pocket for you. If
Speaker 3: you want to die, I can't.
Speaker 2: It's the player aloud man. We'll be back on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: We'll see yuh.
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