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Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 1: Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and Newie Strugs.

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Speaker 2: Cowboy Nation.

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Speaker 3: you are now rocking with the best. I'm Chmaharrison and

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Speaker 3: as always, we can't form votron because one Newie Shrugs

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Speaker 3: is in Oxnar. But this is as close as they get.

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Speaker 3: I got two former Cowboys safeties, Very Church, Danny McCrae

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Speaker 3: is at the desk, and man, we have a great

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Speaker 3: show playing today. The fellas you know what I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna check on it's been alone. It's been a

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Speaker 3: long time since I seen you there. I mean it's

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Speaker 3: been in a couple of days, by the way, man,

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Speaker 3: it's been about a week.

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Speaker 4: But to answer your question, heck how you My mentals

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Speaker 4: are great.

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Speaker 2: Mentals are great, man.

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Speaker 3: I went to my first Rangers game yesterday for the

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Speaker 3: first time ever.

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Speaker 2: The indoor.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: It was a lovely experience, something to take the family too.

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Speaker 2: So it was cool. It was cool all the way

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Speaker 2: up there.

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Speaker 4: I was up there. I think I was like one

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Speaker 4: twenty two or something that game. But it was a

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Speaker 4: good vantage point.

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Speaker 2: You got to see everything. Knew it. Don't believe that

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Speaker 2: it's okay. Nobody knew.

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Speaker 3: He gave him the he gave him the tickets.

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Speaker 2: Danny, how are you, brother? I'm good man, I'm good man. Listen.

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Speaker 3: I'm having a great time, you know, being a dad life,

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Speaker 3: you know, and I'm and I'm seeing you take care

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Speaker 3: of yourself.

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Speaker 2: Man, So apple day, keep it, keep it out though

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Speaker 2: way man.

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Speaker 3: I have my apple, had my yoga, trying to do

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Speaker 3: trying to get like newie man, trying to get like

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Speaker 3: newie newie.

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Speaker 2: How is ox Star treating you? Brother?

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Speaker 3: From come on, I'll ask.

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Speaker 4: You how you do?

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Speaker 2: Hey? This is loved.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't hear Frouds for a second.

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Speaker 6: All these all the all these folks who come around here,

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Speaker 6: these these signals have interrupted me.

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Speaker 4: I'm fine, guys, I'm fine.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing better than Tristan Viscay, you know, because I'm here.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is the players lounge, and we're gonna keep

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Speaker 3: it playing since we know, since we since we checked mentals,

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Speaker 3: and we see that Newie's mentals are right. They need

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Speaker 3: to be. Hey, give us the news and notes. They're

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Speaker 3: an Oxnar Newie.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 6: So Saturday was an abysmal performance by the kickers. Okay,

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Speaker 6: it was bad between Tristan Viscay you know, and and

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Speaker 6: Brandon Arbors. They ended up cutting this guyino today. So

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Speaker 6: Brandon is now the kicker. He's going to be able

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Speaker 6: kicking duties. Mike McCarthy, the dead coach, who's asked today

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Speaker 6: the press conference, so why not bringing a veteran And

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Speaker 6: he's like, well, we want to give we want to

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Speaker 6: give Brandon reps and see what he can do. So

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Speaker 6: this guy is kicking in the USFL. He's from Plano,

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Speaker 6: so he's a local kid. He's gonna Basically what I

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Speaker 6: So come Jacksonville, we'll see what he does all week long.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna have his opportunity. But when the crowd was

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Speaker 6: out here booing these guys and then when they ended

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Speaker 4: They gave him that that New York.

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Speaker 6: Yankee side clap, like, okay, but look, you should be worried. Okay,

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Speaker 6: if it's right now going into the Giants game, your

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Speaker 6: biggest concern is who's gonna make the extra points and

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Speaker 4: Right now that answer is not clear at all for

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Speaker 3: If you didn't know, Hodge Vis Kuyino was cut today

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Speaker 3: and now we know.

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Speaker 2: Now you know.

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Speaker 3: But also newly the position battles that obviously we're hearing

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Speaker 3: talk about what you're seeing because obviously a lot of

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 6: So one of the questions and the only question asked

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Speaker 4: He said, that's still developing.

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Speaker 6: Says, right now the defense is ahead of the offensive

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Speaker 6: asked the questions. Sometimes it doesn't look real pretty. Sometimes

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Speaker 6: so you look at the offensive line and you're like, okay, let's.

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Speaker 4: See where it goes.

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Speaker 6: So basically, with a new offensive line coach, let's just

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Speaker 6: give it time. By the way, Michael Parsons did say

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Speaker 6: that that Tyron.

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Speaker 4: Smith is really still good.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I mean he's really he's really good because you know,

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Speaker 6: people put that video out there.

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Speaker 4: You know he kind of kind of kind.

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Speaker 6: Of got by tire just a little bit, just a

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Speaker 4: Tyre's still a monster. Okay.

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Speaker 6: So for certain people on this show that are always

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Speaker 6: trying to find something negative towards that find usc Trojan,

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Speaker 6: just understand Mike Carson said, he's still really good.

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Speaker 3: Boy, I'm trying to find did I post the video? Dah,

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Speaker 3: you ain't posted was out there for the rep No, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm just asking, okay, have I listen. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 3: no longer active in the NFL. Okay, so I don't

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Speaker 3: play any games. I'm real close to top Okay, I

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Speaker 3: mean out to play the left now, I'm kidding.

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Speaker 3: If Tyron is healthy, as I've always said, he is

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Speaker 3: after year after year when Tyron goes out, we have

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Speaker 3: But I still think he's a good player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 3: I definitely think you know, Tyren's you know, I'm not

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Speaker 3: you know, when healthy, I still think he has the

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Speaker 2: Out there, and let's be honest.

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Speaker 3: You know, Michael Parsons has done that to a lot

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Speaker 3: But the question I want to ask you knew he is.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna stand on my soapbox just a little bit here,

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Speaker 6: just a little bit when I said earlier this year

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Speaker 6: that if I'm Jalen Tolbert, I stick next to Dak.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm there by four and I'm trying to

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Speaker 6: He has stuck by Dak Prescott. Brian Schottenheimer. Also head

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Speaker 6: coach Mike McCarthy said there's not a day where that

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Speaker 6: You know, he said I wasn't where I needed to be.

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Speaker 6: So he has made that jump and people talk about

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Speaker 6: it and Danny, you went through it, bar you went through it.

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Speaker 6: That jumped from your first year to your second year.

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Speaker 6: He has a better understanding of what he needs to do.

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Speaker 6: I think maybe some people forgot that he came out

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Speaker 6: what this NFL life entails. So so far, the young

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Speaker 6: Tobert can be special teams. He's gonna have to show

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Speaker 6: a guy like Jalen Tolbert's gonna be huge for a

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Speaker 6: guy like like Kelvin Joseph to show us what you

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Speaker 6: learn is it gonna translate on the football field?

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Speaker 4: And so so.

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Speaker 6: Far, they're saying all the right things about about mister Tobert.

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Speaker 6: What you're seeing. I think he has improved where he

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Speaker 4: Is that good enough?

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Speaker 6: Is that gonna be better than the kids from South

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Speaker 4: I just think Saturday is going to be a big.

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Speaker 6: Tail for a lot of guys, because I gotta call

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Speaker 6: it all Oxnarch. A lot of dudes will look good

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Speaker 4: The lights are on at at and T Stadium.

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Speaker 6: That's where you're going to see some guys step up,

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Speaker 6: and you're going to see some guys that trink. Mike

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Speaker 6: McCarthy spoke about how he's not even looking at his FITU.

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Speaker 6: He's like, I don't have the fifty three man roster

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Speaker 6: in my mindset. I don't even go through it, he said,

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Speaker 6: because I know there's gonna be some guys that go

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Speaker 4: Night and make you say WHOA. And I think Mike's

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent right about that.

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Speaker 3: I got a question for you, Knui, just because I've

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Speaker 3: been I've been reading and hearing that there's been a

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Speaker 3: lot of ones versus ones out there training counts all right,

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Speaker 3: and we all get to see, of course, because the

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Speaker 3: media is gonna blow it out of proportion that Dak

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Speaker 3: is throwing interceptions, whatever whatever is going on. What are

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Speaker 2: What are you seeing from Dak?

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Speaker 3: As far as does he look different based on the

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Speaker 3: changes that are made with Mike McCarthy calling the plays

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Speaker 3: now versus Killen Moore? Is he trying to figure it out?

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Speaker 6: I we all play fantasy football here. I don't know

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Speaker 6: him early, Okay, go get him okay because last years,

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Speaker 4: That's not that case anymore.

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Speaker 4: Brandon Cooks, he's just good.

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Speaker 4: Who you know, Gallup could be receiving a lot of

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Speaker 6: If Cook stays healthy, and if Lamb is just the

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Speaker 4: Watching Michael Galla. We go watch Jake Ferguson running around.

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Speaker 6: You know, basically unchecked or just you know, just just

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Speaker 4: So that's why I said, man, go get go, get yourself.

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Speaker 6: So I'm just gonna tell you, man, anybody worried, if

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Speaker 6: Why did Jalen Hurts have the year he had because

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Speaker 6: they gave him some help. Why is Tua looking good

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. How you supposed to win with James Washington.

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Speaker 3: Anybody went with James Washington? No, So, so what you're

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Speaker 4: Hey, man, I hate to tell you Barry Church.

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Speaker 6: Get buried the way the way the way you sit

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Speaker 6: I think you're gonna be taking that same beating. They're

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Speaker 6: You're gonna be looking up like, Wow, should have done

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Speaker 6: this years ago. Should have listened to Danny years ago.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're doing. Yeah, he on fire right now.

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Speaker 3: I haven't even bought my new battery yet, but I'm

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Speaker 3: You're good safeties and you know how it has been

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Speaker 3: which is which in cowboy Land.

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Speaker 2: That's good news.

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Speaker 3: You backed the second went out, You backed that position

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Speaker 2: I'm pleasantly surprised.

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Speaker 3: I mean, to me, this is the first time and

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Speaker 3: So to me, they allocated the dollars into the right people.

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Speaker 3: Now when you talk about you know that guy Curse,

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Speaker 3: then you see a guy like Curse, who a lot

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Speaker 3: that leave me? You know, you got guys coming.

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Speaker 4: Up on a hole.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just kind of the odd man out. So

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Speaker 6: Hey, I got audio back here, Church, that's what piggyback

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Speaker 4: Uh, Stephen Jones wasn't here.

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Speaker 6: He was at cancer with his dad for DeMarcus whereas

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Speaker 4: How come he's not getting the bag.

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Speaker 6: Did they approach him and then him say well, we

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Speaker 6: and say what do I want. I spoke to Malik

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, you obviously being a safety

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Speaker 3: are you okay with seeing other guys obviously get paid

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Speaker 3: assume that he wasn't offered the deal he could have been.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna just go from that assumption.

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Speaker 3: I'm incentivized at this point one to make you pay

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Speaker 2: To get nothing motivation? You like money. But I got

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Speaker 3: If you're Zach Martin and you see the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 2: How does that.

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Speaker 3: Affect you, especially when you holding out for more dollars?

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Speaker 6: I think you can, okay, if I'm looking at it

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Speaker 6: I'm a Hall of Fame football player. You can take

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Speaker 6: You were taking care of there. We have the leverage,

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Speaker 4: It's money you will not get back.

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Speaker 6: It's it's you know, starts messing with your contract and

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Speaker 6: So I just at this point in time, Todd Archer

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Speaker 6: guard World War time, to have more statistics that go

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Speaker 4: So that, to me, I think is your hope.

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Speaker 6: And I think Jerry has a I think they feel

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Speaker 3: So you don't see this having any type of how

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna put this out here for Emmitt Smith,

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Speaker 6: and please never when you never see him, don't ever

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Speaker 4: He's like, I did not hold out.

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Speaker 6: My contract was expired, So you can't hold out if

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Speaker 6: get him on the cheat. Emmitt's like, pay me more

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Speaker 6: So they lose the first two games and go back

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Speaker 6: to what this was at the time. This was an

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Speaker 6: And the engine that they had to have two games go,

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Speaker 6: So everybody's frustrated, sponsors are mad, and then boom, Jerry

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Speaker 6: he's not going to be that. I don't see him

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Speaker 4: I just don't see that happen.

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Speaker 3: it's still got to play out. We still gotta look

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Speaker 3: at the preseason. But you guys know it, there are

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's all starting to play out.

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Speaker 3: But one of the things I want to talk to

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Speaker 3: You guys know how important that is. And guys on

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Speaker 3: They kick it with each other outside of the facility.

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Speaker 3: But the bigger thing I think that you guys have

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Speaker 3: talked about I've heard you talk about before. It's just

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Speaker 3: the leadership part on this team. You bring in Stephan Gilmour,

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Speaker 3: you bring in a Brandan Cooks and players like that

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Speaker 3: that obviously are making an impact on your team. Talk

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Speaker 3: about how important that is and where this could actually

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Speaker 3: be such a positive thing for a team that was

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Speaker 3: already finishing twelve and five last season.

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you. Yeah, I think it's been instant.

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Speaker 3: I mean you could just listen to to Treyvon Diggs,

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Speaker 3: few years, breaking records, doing everything he can to be better.

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Speaker 3: His brother is Stephan Di's plays in the league, so

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Speaker 3: he already has the idea of how to be a professional.

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Speaker 3: And then you get a guy like Stepan Gilmour to

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Speaker 3: come in, comes in and he's like, oh man, I'm

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Speaker 3: learning a lot from this dude. Like this dude is

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Speaker 3: showing me how to be a better professional, what he

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Speaker 3: does to be as good as he's been for so long.

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Speaker 2: And how I can be better.

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Speaker 3: He said, all right, Stephan dig like he just got

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Speaker 3: paid one hundred million dollars and he still he's still

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Speaker 3: looking at another guy saying I can be better than

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Speaker 3: what I am based off what I'm learning from him.

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Speaker 3: And then the same thing with Ceedee Lamb in the

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Speaker 3: roide receiver room, he's talking to Cooks and he's saying, Hey, well,

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Speaker 3: I'm getting all these little tip bits from him, and

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Speaker 3: I think I can make my game be a little

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Speaker 3: bit better based off of what I've learned from him.

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Speaker 3: And I think when you're in the locker room, when

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Speaker 3: you have guys in your position, group meeting, who can

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Speaker 3: give you those those nuggets, who can who has the

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Speaker 3: experience for you to say I respect what he's saying,

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Speaker 3: right because most of the time, if it's somebody who's

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Speaker 3: been no shoes in that position, you're gonna listen to

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Speaker 3: them versus somebody who hasn't done it.

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Speaker 2: The same thing on the coaching side.

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Speaker 3: So I think when you have guys like that in

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Speaker 3: the locker room, in those positions of meeting rooms.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just it just helps you.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I think you see the team being

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Speaker 3: a lot more competitive. They're a lot closer now where

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Speaker 3: they can throw the ball at each other after a

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Speaker 3: play in this and if not a big deal, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, because it's some locker rooms that'll

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Speaker 3: be a fight, like like what.

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Speaker 2: You throw the ball at me? For now?

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Speaker 3: These dudes they close enough for it to say, you know, man,

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Speaker 3: this is all competition and we're good and this is

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Speaker 3: gonna make us better. Yeah, it's huge to have leadership

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Speaker 3: in the locker room. I mean, some of the teams

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Speaker 3: been on, we were extremely close and extremely tight. You

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Speaker 3: had those veteran leaders to show the youngsters out there

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Speaker 3: how to go about things. I mean, to me, it's

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Speaker 3: important when you talk about leadership. There's two type of leaders.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a vocal leader and then you got

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Speaker 3: your lead by example leader. And to me, I think

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys cover both bases. When you look at the

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Speaker 3: defensive side of the football, you look at step On Gilmore,

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Speaker 3: who he's kind of a quiet guy, not a really

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Speaker 3: vocal guy out there. He's kind of just like, this

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Speaker 3: is why I'm gonna do it. If you want to

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Speaker 3: be successful, this is just follow my lead, follow my example.

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Speaker 2: And Diggs's done it a great job doing that. As well

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Speaker 2: as the other corners.

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Speaker 3: They've done a great job learning from the lead back

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Speaker 3: example type of guy like Gilmore is. And then when

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Speaker 3: you talk about vocal leadership, a guy that's gonna get

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Speaker 3: the team hype, the guy that's gonna run through a

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Speaker 3: brick wall and have everybody run through with them, you

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Speaker 3: talk about a guy like de Marcus Lawrence. I mean

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Speaker 3: he's always out there hyping this team up, making sure

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Speaker 3: this team is always on their.

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Speaker 2: P's and q's.

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Speaker 3: So defensively, you got that understanding that you have that

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Speaker 3: vocal leader, you have that lead back example leader, you know,

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Speaker 3: on you off of the side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: The same thing.

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Speaker 3: You look at a guy like Dak Prescott vocal and

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Speaker 3: lead by example. And you got Brandon Cooks out there

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Speaker 3: who's not really the most vocal guy, but he goes

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Speaker 3: out there and he takes the top off of defenses

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Speaker 3: and shows these young receivers how to go about how

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Speaker 3: to be a professional each and every day. And I

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Speaker 3: think that's great for this team and hopefully they can

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Speaker 3: come together as a whole and be that tight unit

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Speaker 3: that we all think they are. Take at the distance,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they know they've got a lot to do.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's got this on paper right now. But

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Speaker 3: as far as leadership is concerned, I think this team

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Speaker 3: has all the bases checked now. As you went down

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Speaker 3: the line, I thought, I was like, man, okay, all right,

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the players and the position groups and

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Speaker 3: who the leaders are. I'm like than you know, as

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Speaker 3: I look at that running back room, who is this

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Speaker 3: void of leadership right now?

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Speaker 2: Who is it?

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Speaker 3: Because all I've heard about Tony Poller is he's a

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Speaker 2: He's one of those lead by example guys.

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Speaker 3: But who's the guy to get everybody together, get you

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Speaker 3: hanging out, making sure we're staying after the watch film.

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Speaker 2: Who's ordering the wingstop? Right?

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody coming here after practice? I got wingstop for us,

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna look at a few more players to

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Speaker 3: make sure that we're all on the same pace. Who

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Speaker 3: is that guy? It has to be Tony Pollard, right.

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Speaker 3: You think that he's getting outside of his own bubble

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Speaker 3: to be that vocal guy because he's a veteran. Now

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Speaker 3: he's seen it done. So I'll say this. I'll say

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Speaker 3: this from my experience, some guys are are just one type.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like.

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Speaker 3: Something guys have a hard time going from I lead

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Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence role of like, Okay, now I'm speaking on

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00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: it and now I'm doing both. Like everybody doesn't really

657
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Speaker 3: have that that characteristic characteristic in them.

658
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Speaker 2: That's very true.

659
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 3: And as for me, I mean, I take myself as

660
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Speaker 3: an example. I'm more of a lead by example, Like

661
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go out there and be this raw,

662
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: raw leader and.

663
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: You got everybody just falling. You got a rucker.

664
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Speaker 4: No I'm not.

665
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: I've never been the by example.

666
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: But I've also had leaders with me that I'm thankful for,

667
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: like a Sean Lee or or DeMarcus Ware or somebody

668
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: like that who can take that vocal presence away from

669
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: because I know I'm not the guy that everybody rally

670
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: around me. All right, this is how we're gonna break

671
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: things down. I was never that type of guy. So

672
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: you got to have two type of leaders on this team,

673
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: and hopefully for that running back room, somebody can step up.

674
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Speaker 3: I want to talk about something that you just mentioned

675
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: with you said DeMarcus Lawrence, but you also talked about

676
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: Dak and one of the stories that I got from

677
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: training camp I got this from Nate talking in the

678
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: other day was about Dak. It was eleven on eleven,

679
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: send me for holk ran around. He cut it off short,

680
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: Dak through the ball. It was one of those ones

681
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: that was intercepted. Dak gets Simmy coming back to the

682
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: huddle and not so much brates him in front of

683
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: the team or whatever, but you know that there was

684
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: at one on one time to talk to him about

685
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: what he did wrong. Because they're obviously learning a new

686
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: offense the time it may be a little bit off,

687
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: but still letting him know that, Look, this is where

688
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: I need you to be. Dak coming into this season,

689
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: obviously so much riding on it, so much expectation on

690
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: his shoulders, because at the end of the day, everybody's

691
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: going to be talking about him. When you think about

692
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: him as a leader and at the quarterback position, from

693
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: all the other thirty one quarterbacks there is in the league,

694
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: do you think that there's anything maybe lacking in.

695
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: His leadership over the years.

696
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: It's hard to say about the guy being Walter Payton

697
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: Man of the Year, but some way that he can

698
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: step his game up as a leader. I'll be honest

699
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: with you and in my opinion. I think Dak is

700
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: probably one of the best leaders I've ever been around

701
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Speaker 3: in the locker room.

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00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: I mean period.

703
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: I mean from a young guy, from a rookie until now.

704
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: I mean, he's grown unbelievably and he understands that you

705
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 3: can't talk to each player or motivate each player the

706
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: same way. You know, he went over to Semi Fooko,

707
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: as you said, he didn't, you know, berate him and

708
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: say you got to get that. He kind of just

709
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: talked to him and say, hey, this is how you

710
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: need to do this routing. Hopefully you know later on

711
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: in that practice he was able to do the right thing.

712
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: Some guys you can yell at and motivate them and say,

713
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: hey man, you playing like you know what you need

714
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: to get your you know, button gear, and some guys

715
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: you can't. You got to learn how to motivate people.

716
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: And I think Dak does an amazing job of treating

717
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: each individual teammate out there different and his leadership style

718
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: to me is his second to none. It's a fine

719
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: line between that, right, especially when the end result is

720
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: of falling in your lap. Seventeen interceptions last season, and

721
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: let's say maybe five of those were based off of

722
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: tip passes.

723
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: If you're Dak, aren't.

724
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: You like, look, I'm crawling all over you about simple

725
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: mistakes like that because eminently it falls on me.

726
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: Well, I think I.

727
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: Think if you look at the trajectory of some of

728
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: the greatest quarterbacks that we've been able to see, the

729
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: pay Manning's, the Aaron Rodgers, the Tom Brady's, Right, what

730
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: do you start to see as as they go deep

731
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: in their career and they have the young guys who

732
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: come in and don't know what they're doing or they're

733
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: dropping passes, you start to see that.

734
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: You start to see it go.

735
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: From hey man, I'm I'm I'm trying to work with

736
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: you to like, hey listen, if you ain't gonna do it,

737
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: we get you out of there. And I think that's

738
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: the next progression of Dak's leadership, right. I think I

739
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: think you're gonna get to the point to where it's like,

740
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: hey man, listen, I love you, okay, but I'm gonna

741
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: tell you this. If I know that you ain't been

742
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: working out during the summer, and I notice you don't

743
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: know what's going on because you're sleeping in the meetings,

744
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: and then I get out there and you're not running

745
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: the right route and you're dropping passes that I used

746
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: to Hey man, you're gonna be okay, that's gonna change

747
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: to a co going to the sideline. Though, going to

748
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: the sideline, we're gonna bring somebody else in who I

749
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: know has been working hard and I know they want

750
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: to maximize the opportunity that I'm gonna give them. I

751
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: think that's the next progression of it, because if you

752
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: continue to see stuff like guys dropping pastes and going

753
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: and it's going for U interceptions or making the wrong reads,

754
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: you know, based on whatever the coverage you're showing, and

755
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: they running the wrong route, and that ends up in

756
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: the exception, I think you're gonna start to see like,

757
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: hey man, I got guys, I got Cooks, Yeah all right,

758
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: I got Ceedee Lamb, and I got Michael Gallup and

759
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: then the rest of y'all. Y'all just gonna have to

760
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: figure it out because I'm not taking a chance on

761
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: y'all because y'all are letting me down. I mean, like,

762
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: classic example of what you're seeing is that goes to

763
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: the to the podium after the Jacksonville game, throws the

764
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: ball to Noah Brown, hits him in the bread basket,

765
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: goes right to the other player, runs it back for

766
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: a touchdown. He puts that on himself. Now, if you

767
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: go to other quarterbacks, I won't call him back. But

768
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: come on, man, they will throw you up. Aaron Rodgers

769
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: will throw you under the bus.

770
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: You gotta have guys. He will throw you under the bus.

771
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: But that is the quarterback that will put it on himself.

772
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: And that to me, like, that's a difference in leadership,

773
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: especially when you talk about a guy someone like Tom

774
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: Brady that all doll cousin receiver on the sideline. Aaron

775
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: Rodgers will throw you under the bus at a press conference.

776
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: Dak will do none of it and take all of

777
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: the responsibility that comes with it. And some quarterbacks you

778
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: know that we've played with, they will make you'll make

779
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: a mistake like that. They won't even say nothing to you.

780
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: They'll just go to the coach and you know, man,

781
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 3: why am I only playing you know, ten snaps instead

782
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: of forty snaps. So these guys are lucky that they

783
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: have a guy like that that cares enough to say,

784
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 3: you know, hey, I'm gonna bring you to the sizes.

785
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: You know, this is what you need to do better, because,

786
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: like I said, we played with a guy at what

787
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: you're doing? All right, I'm the coach real quick, and

788
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 3: I got to answer, at what point does it change?

789
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: Because I was true because I'm not I'm not talking

790
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: I was.

791
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: I wasn't talking about the guys who will go and

792
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: get you in the in the media right when they

793
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: come to the podium and they say, well this guy

794
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 3: did whatever. I'm talking about the guy who had practiced

795
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: when you drop a past and you running in he said, no,

796
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: go back to the sideline. Jason Witten would do a

797
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 3: guy like that, Hey man, you don't know what you're doing.

798
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 3: Don't get him sideline man going to the same middle

799
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: of play, Hey, coach, man, this dude, get him about it.

800
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: But he had that also helped. God, they respected him

801
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: when he said go to the sideline. They ain't say well, coach,

802
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 3: They be like we said, I got to get out.

803
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: But I think that is I think that's the progression

804
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 3: of the leadership to where you say, hey man, I've

805
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 3: been around teams uh in instances where this type of

806
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 3: stuff right here has cost us in big moments and

807
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let that continue. To cost us in

808
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: big moments, So you got to go until you can

809
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: get it figured out. And like I said, I think

810
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: that's the next progression of of that. He's an amazing leader,

811
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: but it's you know, sometime you be like, hey man,

812
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: we didnet got so close so many times. And this

813
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: ain't on me, right, this on guys. This on guys

814
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: that I see. I'm I'm gonna take it in at

815
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: the podium, you know.

816
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. But this is on guys who I know, like.

817
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: When we're working out, when we go to Miami, all right,

818
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: you didn't come like that, like that, that is when

819
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: you say all right, now, I understand that when you

820
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: when you got to say, man, you you're not the

821
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: one sad line. So I think it'll get there, you know,

822
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: especially your start winning some Super Bowl gonna be like,

823
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: hey man, I know I know the length of an

824
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: NFL career and uh and we didn't and we didn't

825
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: got and we didn't got close enough. But we're not

826
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: there and I know only have certain amount of years left.

827
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: Now it's a little bit more serious. Danny McCrae is

828
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: predicting Super Bowl. I heard it, yes, right, I said,

829
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Speaker 3: I start winning for some more.

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Speaker 2: I refuse to believe that you were not a rock

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Speaker 2: rock guy.

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Speaker 3: I refuse I was not you right right here though,

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00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: was just like, if you don't want to do it.

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00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: You played with so yeah, d war you had Jason Hatcher, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you didn't have to James, I mean, and then and

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Speaker 3: then after that.

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00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: You had Rob Ryan as your defense coordinator. It was

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00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 2: gonna be the.

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Speaker 3: to me, wasn't even really a rock rock. They kind

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00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: about my guy Michael Parsons. If y'all been noticing Michael

902
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: is wrecking, let's getting to the point where let's getting

903
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 3: to the point where they can't even run plays. He's

904
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: that disruptive in camp. When do you I mean, come on, man,

905
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: you guys look played in the league know full well

906
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: that's how I.

907
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: New he does that. You guys sitting over there like.

908
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: You guys literally and you have played with some special

909
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: players like Won DeMarcus, which you want to talk talk

910
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: about when we get about of here. Uh. When you

911
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: have a guy like this that's dominating and you know

912
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: you want his best stuff for the season. If you're

913
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: the coaches, are you saying, look, let's dial this kid

914
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: back a little big, you know, send him over there

915
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: with Britt Brown.

916
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: I don't care what you do. We need to save

917
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: all this for the regular season when.

918
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: It comes, you know, full padded practices and all that.

919
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: You know, he's still young enough for I'm gonna put

920
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: him out there for the full path. I'm gonna let

921
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 3: him do his thing. You know, he's the vocal leader,

922
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: he's almost, you know, the face of the franchise outside

923
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: of d So to me, I'm gonna let him do

924
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: his thing out there. But when it comes to these

925
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: preseason games, we've seen enough. All right, sit your but

926
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: over there.

927
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: With Britt Brown.

928
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't even let him dress out for

929
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: the game because you know the type of man he

930
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: is in the type of guy he is. If he's

931
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: dressing out there, he's gonna want to get on the field,

932
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: And to me, it's just it's not worth the risk

933
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: out there for a preseason game. We've seen it happen

934
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: time and time again where guys will go out there

935
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: for their ten snaps and on that nice snap, something

936
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: crazy happens.

937
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: And to me, the big.

938
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: Mazukah Aka Parsons, he's a guy that you can't afford

939
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 3: to lose, all right, especially for this team. I feel

940
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: like he's, you know, basically the fire of this team

941
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: and he gets everything going in the right motion. So

942
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: for me, preseason now you go ahead and set over

943
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: there with Brett Brown, get some of the bands done.

944
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: But I'm not, I'm not messing with in the preseason.

945
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not asking for him

946
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: to go out there and play.

947
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: Now, get he get a couple of snaps like a series,

948
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: and in the third one if they all played and

949
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: then then I kind of understand that, But not do

950
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 3: we need to.

951
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 2: See anything from him? No? No, we know how good.

952
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: We know he went and got better.

953
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: So all the stories of him going to talk to

954
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 3: some of the best offensive lineman there to play the

955
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: game in our generation and getting tips from them on

956
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 3: how to be better, so we know that he's put

957
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: in the work. I mean, I feel the same way

958
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: same way about him as I feel about a guy

959
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 3: like Ceedee Lamb. I feel about a guy like Brandon Cooks,

960
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: Like do I need to see him in the preseason?

961
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: No?

962
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: And I think Mike McCarthy is sending it up perfectly

963
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: by making sure that there's a lot of ones versus

964
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: ones in the preseason, right, Because what happens is if

965
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 3: you believe that you have a top five defense, okay,

966
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: you're probably not going to get better competition in the preseason, right,

967
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: You're probably the best competition that you're going to get

968
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: before the regular season is probably in practice, right, so

969
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: they're getting all the reps they need to get. Michael

970
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: Parsons is going up against Tyron Smith, who's healthy right now,

971
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: so he's probably getting the best look that he's gonna

972
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: get before he gets into the regular season. So I

973
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: don't expect to see them much should we do maybe

974
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: a series, But outside of that, nah, I want them

975
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 3: to stay healthy because what happens is it doesn't even

976
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: have to be a major injury at acl Achilles any

977
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: of that. Just something nagging injury. The first four weeks

978
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: of your season. It's like I'm a little slower than

979
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: I should be because I tweaked something. Yes, that's what

980
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: I'm That's what I'm talking about. You guys are two

981
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 3: KGI veterans, You played a lot of years in the NFL.

982
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 3: You have a guy on your team that can make

983
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 3: you money, okay, a guy that can make you money, okay.

984
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 3: You have a one percenter of all the dogs that

985
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 3: are quote unquote dolls in the NFL.

986
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: I don't want him to have any of that.

987
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: A tweet Cami a tweet, quad or finger or any

988
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: of that.

989
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: He is what he is.

990
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: The debate about him being a linebacker versus defensive end,

991
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: that's over with.

992
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: He's a defensive end, okay.

993
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: And now, even with the experience that he has, he

994
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 3: is one of the best in the NFL. I don't

995
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even dare think that he would play a

996
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,479
Speaker 3: preseason game. But at this point it's making it hard

997
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: on this offense just to.

998
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: Get a look.

999
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 3: Okay, well listen, okay, we noticed s o officive line.

1000
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: All right, So I will always tell this story. I

1001
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 3: will always tell it.

1002
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: Man. When I went to Chicago, all.

1003
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: Right, we was balling in training camp against our offense,

1004
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: killing them. I mean I must have by four picks

1005
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: in a training camp. I got the start job and

1006
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: everything all that. I say, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna

1007
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: be nice when we get into the regular season, because

1008
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: the Bears had beat the brakes off of us when

1009
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: we went up there.

1010
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: They did, they did. Man.

1011
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: We got out there only to realize that our offense

1012
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: was absolutely trans We the office was so transhed. We

1013
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 3: thought we was great. Then we played the offense that

1014
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: was averaged and they read it up on us, Okay,

1015
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: so you never know. Okay, So let's say we know

1016
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: that the offensive line right now is going through Zach Martin. There,

1017
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 3: Tyrn Smith is trying to figure it back out again

1018
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: at this point, but he's also probably in his mind,

1019
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: like I still need to stay healthy, trying to make

1020
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: sure that nothing happens, and then you shuffling for the

1021
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: rest of your offensive line. Tylers Smith playing little guard.

1022
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: We know that his natural positions left time, so he's

1023
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 3: still figuring that out as a second year player. So

1024
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: that's some of the headaches that you expect to have.

1025
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: And then when you got a guy like Mark Michael Parsons,

1026
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: who's that great. Yeah, he's gonna wreck your practice break.

1027
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: He's not even gonna give you opportunity to really find

1028
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: that shuffle out. They probably got to put him on

1029
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: the sideline so they can see what they can pass

1030
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: off with what they can't, you know, who can really

1031
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: play the game. Because it's not a fair assessment of

1032
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: a guy that's going against the Michael Parsons every snap

1033
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: to say is he a guy who could play in

1034
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 3: the league, because he's not even it's not fair.

1035
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: It's not fair.

1036
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 3: He has to get a look against a guy who

1037
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: he may be actually going.

1038
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: Against that type of tier. He's a Michael Parson's tier one.

1039
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: Okay, on average, you're probably going against tier two, tier

1040
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: three at the most average. Okay, So puts on them

1041
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: tier three guys and then and then let them go

1042
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 3: against the office line and see what happens. Well, look, guys,

1043
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw over the weekend one of your

1044
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: former teammates getting shrine in too.

1045
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: I gotta be like that. Go out there and say that.

1046
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 3: The marks where your former teammate sung the national anthem

1047
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: and got his gold jacket. But man, a great speech,

1048
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't give you guys just a minute to

1049
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: talk about a guy that you got an opportunity to

1050
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: play with getting.

1051
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: His gold jacket.

1052
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: No, without a doubt, I mean it's much deserved. When

1053
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: you talk about a pros pro, I mean the markers

1054
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: where his picture is gonna be in the dictionary. When

1055
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 3: you talk about that, I mean, this is a guy

1056
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: that you came to work early each and every day,

1057
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: stayed late. And he wasn't a selfish guy like this guy.

1058
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: He knew all the tricks of the trade, and he

1059
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 3: taught the younger guy. No matter if you were undrafted,

1060
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: if you were a sixth seventh round pick, He's gonna

1061
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: teach you the knowledge that he knew going in through

1062
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: this game.

1063
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: And he helped a lot of young guys out that way.

1064
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: And when we talk about his on field performance, I

1065
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: mean we came in his rookies.

1066
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: I mean it was just crazy.

1067
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: To see a guy his size be able to run

1068
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: as fast, bend the corners that he was able to

1069
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: and impact the game like he's able to so much deserved,

1070
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: I mean Hall of Fame for this guys. It was

1071
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: a deserved opportunity for him, and I'm glad he was

1072
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: able to get there.

1073
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 2: But we talked about singing that national anthem. My man

1074
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: was up there, like I love it.

1075
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: Though I love it. He did a good job. He

1076
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: did a good job. Word is great man. I love

1077
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: d Whir. I see him all the time now. He

1078
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: was my locker mate when I first got into the league.

1079
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: So that's a guy you want to sit next to

1080
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: if you want to try to figure out how to

1081
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: be a professional in the league and try to get

1082
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: some pointers on what you should do as a rookie,

1083
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: you know, trying to get your footing as you get

1084
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 3: into the league.

1085
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: I would say this.

1086
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: I think it may have been our second year where

1087
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, d Word's great. We all know

1088
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 3: he's great, you know, And he played, he balled out,

1089
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: he had the club on.

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Speaker 2: I think he got an interception with the club on.

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Speaker 3: But the standout game to me, okay is the Philadelphia

1092
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: Eagles when they were the second coming of the Greatest

1093
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 3: Show on Turf and Michael Vick and Sean Jackson at

1094
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: all now and d Ware went out there and got

1095
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: full sacks on the guy and Michael Vick could still run,

1096
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: he was still rolling. Yeah, he went out there and got

1097
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: full sacks on the guy. And I'm just watching him.

1098
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is this is different, this is this

1099
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: is something totally different than you've ever see because you

1100
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: you already know he's great, and then you still have

1101
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 3: you still see it, and you say, oh, he's that great,

1102
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Speaker 3: Like there was never a limit to like how much

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00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: he could do, like he always he could always go

1104
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: out there and surprised, you say, that's actually something I

1105
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: never thought I would see done in my time playing

1106
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: the game. So shout out to him. Super Bowl champion

1107
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: as well. So ye, great dude. Uh, well deserved man.

1108
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 3: I tell you what, man, this is one of those

1109
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: moments when you see a good guy get rewarded. And

1110
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: that's the market sware man. It's an awesome dude man

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00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 3: all around. I haven't heard one person say anything bad

1112
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: about the Market Square ever, you know, so I'll check

1113
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: them if somebody like it's you, but much deserving into

1114
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Speaker 3: all of the recipients man.

1115
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Speaker 2: Reeves Island got in.

1116
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: It was some real dogs, man, some guys that played

1117
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: in this league and well deserved man to all of

1118
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: them in the weekend. Uh and can But that's a

1119
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Speaker 3: wrap for us here on the players lines.

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Speaker 2: We came in, We did what we did.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back on on Wednesday. Wednesday at one o'clock.

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Speaker 3: I still got this in my pocket for you. If

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Speaker 3: you want to die, I can't.

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Speaker 2: It's the player aloud man. We'll be back on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: We'll see yuh.

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