1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: Never told You Abduction, I Heart Radio. 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: And y'all, we're celebrating today because not only are we 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: here for another amazing happy hour, we're joined again by 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: super executive producer Maya. 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: Welcome back, Thank you. 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: For having me. 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 4: Yes, also, y'all, we're actually at the studio. 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 5: A little bit of drama, oh no, but we're excited 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 5: to be together because we're also coming into season three 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 5: of watching Sex and the City. 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we had a little break. I think it 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: was December was our last one. It's been a minute. 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: It's been a long minute. And of course, because it 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: is the first episode. 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: Of season three, we have to have an amazing guest. Yes, 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm here, and Amaya is here because we've been talking 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: about having her on for a while and she even 19 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: brought us because it is technically a happy hour, she 20 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: brought us a non alcoholic hazy ipa from Best Day Brewing, 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: which I'm gonna open on Mike. So if you don't 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: want to hear this, pop open, you know, skip over. Yeah, okay, 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it my sip here. 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 6: That was good. 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tasty. 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: It's tasty. 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: It's been minutes as I've had to be here because yeah, 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: I've been staying away from alcoholics, but this is not 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: an alcoholic, so I'll be fully awake. 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: I hope. I hope. 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 6: Well, let's not retell what happened after the last thing. 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about it. I was not 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: prepared though. That's the answer to all of that. And yes, 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: we are back and we're doing something different. I'm so excited. 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 2: We are in the studio watching, actually in studio while 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: we're recording. I was like, how are we going to 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: do this? Because I don't understand technology. That's what I've discovered. 38 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: It's ready for us, and this is pretty pretty sweet. 39 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: And it's all because of super producer Christina. 40 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: Of course, it's always making the magic happen for us 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: and making us sound much better than we actually do. 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 2: But as we have said, this is a happy hour, 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: So if you are partaking of anything. 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: Please do it responsibly. 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: One. 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 4: Two we are not currently sponsored by any other things 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: that we're talking about. Of course, things change. Maybe one 48 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 4: day people will see the potential and decide they want 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: to sponsor us. So that's that's the you know, hope right, 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: Oh for sure, always. 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 6: Here for the dollars. 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: I need to feed my dogs literally, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 53 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, I need to feed my dog y'all. 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 55 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: So we are in a season three, so maya tell 56 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: us your experience with Sex and the City. I laugh 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: because you are significantly younger than me and that you 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: love this, uh just as much as I do. But 59 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: it is so outdated, shocked. 60 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of discourse right now actually 61 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 7: about Sex and the City being on Netflix and gen 62 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 7: Z being exposed to it for the first time. Yeah, 63 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 7: it's very interesting because Sex and the City was on 64 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 7: Bravo in the early two thousands like all the time. 65 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 7: Really before like Housewives was on all the time, it 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 7: was Sex and the City all the time. So that's 67 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 7: how I was introduced to Sex and the City. And 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 7: so I never watched it in like successive order, but 69 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 7: I pretty much saw all the episodes throughout the years, 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 7: and I definitely specifically remember my mom being like Sex 71 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 7: and the City. 72 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: What do you know about that? I mean, that is 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: the question that I have, What do you know about? 74 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 7: My mom is also like a boomer, so like she 75 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 7: was like pre Sex in the City, and like. But 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 7: she knew about it obviously because it was so big 77 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 7: on HBO. 78 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 6: But she was like, what are you watching this? 79 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 7: Obviously Bravo didn't have all of the uncuts, you know, 80 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 7: so it was like a little bit tamer than the original, 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 7: but it was still, you know, pretty provocative at the 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 7: time as well. 83 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I loved it. I mean I fell in 84 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 6: love with the characters. You know. 85 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 7: I feel like I'm a Charlotte Okay, okay, in my heart, 86 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 7: in your heart, I think I'm more of a Charlotte. 87 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 7: I'm like a mix of like a Charlotte in a 88 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 7: carry Yeah, a little bit. 89 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: I think I keep forgetting h I try to usually 90 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: get our guests to do quick quiz o. Soll you 91 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: know what, We're gonna do it as a later I'm 92 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: gonna send it to you and then we'll have that 93 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: as a result later time. 94 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: Okay. Fun. 95 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: One of the things I think it's hilarious because I 96 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: also was introduced to it originally, even though it wasn't 97 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: my time timeline, but I was very conservative, was through TBS. 98 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 4: It came through TVs. Wow, yeah, yes, ma'am. 99 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: But you can imagine how edited it was, so like 100 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: the thirty minute episode was like fifteen. 101 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: With lots and lots of ads. 102 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 1: Do it feel like there was like a lot of plot? 103 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: Well, no, because I don't know if it was just 104 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: easy to catch on, or maybe they did an amazing 105 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: job in the editing, or maybe it's because after that, 106 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: after watching it, I would buy my own copy. So yes, 107 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: I have every single DVD, even including the first movie. 108 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: I had to stop after the first, but he was 109 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: pretty good. Yeah, yeah, least it tracked. 110 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 7: Jennifer Hudson's character was that second movie the first first movie? 111 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, so she it was so bad. She was trying 112 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: so hard. This was her like acting debut, so bless 113 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: her heart. We still love her character. But yeah, yeah, 114 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: so I got that later. So maybe because I have 115 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: watched it so much since then, I've forgotten what the 116 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: TVs version was and understood it. 117 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 6: I feel like the sex was not that integral. 118 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 4: To the No, really, it was just like like throwaway sea. 119 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. I guess it's more of a maybe 120 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: you don't understand when you're younger. Certainly for me, for 121 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: the few episodes I saw, I didn't really get what 122 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: was going on, and if I had, so, how was 123 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: it on TVs. 124 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: I think it's quite funny. 125 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: But I will say for this one, as I was 126 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: trying to remember where we were, I'm like, okay, season three, 127 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: episode one, I can't remember what that episode is. 128 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, so there are some scenes here. 129 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: So the fact that we get to gather this together 130 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: because Samantha is Samantha and she makes it delightfully hilarious. 131 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, just a heads up, y'all. If any of 132 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 4: y'all are watching, like, come to watch it and then 133 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: come back, just so you know, don't watch it around 134 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 4: children prepared. Yeah, there's some things. 135 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: But yes, with that, we are in season three before 136 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: we start Annie, which I did call. I did email 137 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: you to remind you, Oh, can you give us a 138 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: recap of what has happened up until now. 139 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm very glad you let me know because I was 140 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: racking my brain trying to remember. So Carrie broke up 141 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: with Big and then was like out in the field again, 142 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: and then got back together with him, and then and 143 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: they had a lot of conversations around like him moving 144 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: and she wanted to leave stuff at his place and 145 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: he was like no, and then they like had an 146 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: I Love you fight and then they broke up again, 147 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: and then she started dating other people and then she 148 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: finds out he's engaged I think two a younger women. 149 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: And then Miranda met Steve and they broke up over 150 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: money I think, but then they had sex later after 151 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: they broke Oh my goodness. She also got an apartment. 152 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: I remember that. Yes, she got an apartment. Charlotte continued 153 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: to date like guys that I was like, Wow, you 154 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: met him at a funeral. Yeah, And then she met 155 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: she fell in with some power lesbians or something. Yeah. Yeah. 156 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: And then Samantha did a bunch of stuff. She was 157 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: at the like SNN club and then all kinds of guys. 158 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: She had kind of a fight with her like assistant 159 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: over a Rolodex or something. 160 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: Yes, the assistant stole the rolodex that had all the 161 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: important contacts. 162 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: So yes, and then she got like kicked out of 163 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: some society and then some bloody helped her get back. 164 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: I knew it was a famous person. 165 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: It wasn't at all like you just had to imagine him. 166 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: He was there and spirit and speaking of I remember 167 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: John bon Jovi showed up. 168 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. 169 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: And then yeah, there's a lot of talk about all 170 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: the kinds of things they always talk about. But one 171 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: thing that stuck out to me is I remember Miranda 172 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: having that whole I'm tired of talking about guys all 173 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: the time. Yes, and she had a lazy ovary. Yes, whoa. 174 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: Memories. 175 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: Good job, good job. Those are all very important things 176 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: later down the road. But yeah, so very good. 177 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: He did a great job. 178 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: So we're coming back with season three, and that's pretty usual. 179 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: I usually give Annie the title and get her to 180 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: predict what she thinks this episode is about. And we 181 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: do have a famous guy start coming in f y I, 182 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: but not everybody in my I don't know, Like I say, 183 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: he's famous. But then like people are going to go 184 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: back and forth because he was up there for like 185 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 2: a like a split second and then he kind of 186 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: went away. Oh okay, I know you're welcome. So the 187 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: first episode is titled where There's Smoke? So what do 188 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: you think this is about? 189 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Oh? 190 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: No predictions, please, Where there's. 191 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: Smoke there is a fire. See. Christina taught me such 192 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: a valuable lesson when she came on, which is it's 193 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: like the obvious thing, but I can't think where there's smoke, 194 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: there's fire. Huh. Something is wrong. I think something's wrong 195 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: in multiple cases, and perhaps in one case an STI wow. 196 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 4: That's not a mean I could see where you get. 197 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: I could see I can see where we get that. 198 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: It's good. This something. Yeah, I think all of them 199 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: are going through a crisis of some sort, and one 200 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: of them it might more literal than I'm grasping. 201 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, we're gonna go with that. 202 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: And because of the beginning of season three, do you 203 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: have any predictions for season three? 204 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: I feel like somehow they can care gonna end up 205 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: back together. Wait, is this what Aiden shows? I've been 206 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: waiting for Aiden? 207 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 6: Noiler. 208 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: We all love it. I think we're all team Aiden, 209 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 4: aren't we. 210 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well I don't like Big. 211 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: Well yeah, that's big. 212 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: He dies, So whatever'll not not anytime soon? 213 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: Just okay, anyway, all right, I like the predictions. 214 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's very simple. 215 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 4: Let's get into it. 216 00:10:47,360 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 8: Okay, Well, this is good. We're actually crossing water to 217 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 8: meet men. 218 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 9: Reminder, I am not going to Staten Island to meet men. 219 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 9: I am going to judge them. 220 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 4: One of the island. 221 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 6: Have anybody ever been there? 222 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: No? 223 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: Yes, the fairies free I'm like too proud. 224 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: You knew something you're excited. 225 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: It's about time I knew something. 226 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I think this is the beginning where Sarahjusica Parker 227 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: gets credited as producer and getting more money because it's 228 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: becoming more and more successful. I'm all right, this is 229 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: where I laugh about like iconic like male and female gaze. 230 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 7: Yes that's the guest. Maybe it's just the time and 231 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 7: like that was attractive, right, but the firefighters. 232 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: Not my appeal that like all of them are thick shoulder. 233 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 2: The cutest guy and she gave him five and a 234 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: half five and a half. That's rough all the halfs. 235 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: But I think it has something to do with like 236 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: or think about the romance covers wave. 237 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 10: Point with like Fabio and such like he would he 238 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 10: would be that level, like even though like yeah, they 239 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 10: were as defined like today, like we've now acknowledged that 240 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 10: a lot of women are all good with the dad bods. 241 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: We are all good with the. 242 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: Dad bods, but like the six pack is more impressive 243 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,359 Speaker 2: with the lean leaner. 244 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, what's with all those half points? 245 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: Six and a half, eight and a half. 246 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: What can I say? 247 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 8: Sometimes a girl needs a. 248 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 4: Half, Sometimes a girl needs that. 249 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 6: Means I have no idea what that means? 250 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: You know, you don't want to make a full decision. 251 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: You can't give him the high so the in between 252 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: can't quite decide. 253 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: Very cious, that was much less sexual than I was thinking. 254 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 6: That's a very carey answer. 255 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: Officially real. 256 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 8: Seventy third Street. 257 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: She's giving out her address, Willie Nilly. 258 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know you, bro, You're not getting my address, 259 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: even though that you can google me, you. 260 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: Have to work for at least yourself. 261 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: How can I get your phone number? 262 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 8: Government? 263 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 6: Purpose is only he already has her address? 264 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 4: I mean, what does he need a number for to 265 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 4: show up? 266 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 5: Man? 267 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: That address comes out first? 268 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 9: You know what? 269 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: Though? 270 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: There it's not quite the can I get your email 271 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: or Instagram level, which is the new right? 272 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 6: I hate that. Yeah, no, I don't like. 273 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 4: So your boo didn't pick you up that way? Oh 274 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: what's your Instagram's? 275 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 7: Oh my god, this is pre pre Instagram? 276 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: Really yeah? Really? 277 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: M hmm. 278 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 10: I'm Samana went home with that firefighter to two b Bee. 279 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: I'm Charlotte's around here somewhere. 280 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 4: Okay, Sam went home with the with the firefighter. 281 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: How many cocktails did she have a couple? 282 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 8: I love this. 283 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: I mean, she's having a great time. 284 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 6: She's let loose. 285 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: You know when you hear that song and you just 286 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: feel it, it's like it's like a theme and anthem 287 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: and you just got to get into it and play 288 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: it out in your head. 289 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: With a SATINYLI He's a strong that white jacket. I 290 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: love it, tub Top getting it. 291 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: I have to say I understand the appeal of this 292 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: show in terms of, like, by the time I was 293 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: their age, which is not that old, I wasn't doing 294 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: this stuff. 295 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: But like it was this lively show of them not 296 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: being moms, yeah, girlfriends, and just living life, like having 297 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: that moment outside of college. 298 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 6: I feel like most young thirties are now. 299 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah forties for some said we're not going. 300 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: But it's more acceptable at their age than it was then. 301 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: I think yes. 302 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 9: And uptown on dry Land, Samantha and mister July the. 303 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: Miracle again, unrealistic scene. 304 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: Look, how do you not get panicked about having live 305 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: flames near you? 306 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: Who does that? 307 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 6: W was that even like sexy? 308 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 8: Like? What was that? 309 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: She was losing it? 310 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: At one point You're like, are you okay to stop? 311 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 9: And the guy was just like, would snow white have 312 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 9: slept in that glass? Coffin forever, or would she have 313 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 9: eventually woken up, spit out the apple, gotten a job, 314 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 9: a healthcare package, and a baby from our local neighborhood 315 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 9: sperm bank. 316 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: I couldn't help, but wonder not anymore. No, No, it 317 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: is reality. 318 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: Ye. 319 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 9: Do women just want to be rescued? 320 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: Just want to be rescued? 321 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 7: I think people want to be rescued, like everybody wants 322 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 7: to have someone take care of their worst burdens. 323 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to be rescued as 324 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: much as I want you to get me food. 325 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 8: That's it. 326 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. 327 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily need you to take me anywhere. I 328 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: don't necessarily need you to make sure I'm healthy. 329 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: Just give me food. 330 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's nice to have someone to depend on. 331 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: I guess the question is more like the stereotypes, but 332 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: I think it's nice to have someone to depend on. It. Also, 333 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: sometimes you don't want to be in control all the time. 334 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, sometimes you just want to like turn your brain off. Yeah, 335 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 7: you know, I think that's the yeah thing. 336 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm fine. 337 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: I did not need anyone to hold my hand. 338 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 6: I love I think he's so like decil most of 339 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 6: the time. 340 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he made a mistake and try to try 341 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: to gaslight her. Yeah, we won't talk about that later 342 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: till till later, But yeah he is the Yeah, I 343 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: think I would be with Steve. Yeah, I've always. 344 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: Loved and. 345 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 2: Well we haven't exactly established that yet. 346 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 4: No d t R yet. 347 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: Nought what that means. 348 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 8: Do you know what d t R is? 349 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: I don't think. 350 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I don't know defining the relationship. 351 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 6: Like I said, my relationship is pre internet like. 352 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: Before. 353 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: So like because this was like online duty thousand and five, 354 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: having a d t R girl, you got to remember, bro, 355 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: I'm yeah good several years Like this is old schools okay, okay, 356 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: So I think this came around like twenty two thousand 357 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: and five. It's like when people talking about the DTR. 358 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: You know, you gotta put initials to everything, especially time. 359 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 9: Yeah. I one cab ride and two potent sleeping pills later, 360 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 9: Steve put Miranda to bed. 361 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 3: All right, okay, give me give me your leg No. 362 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, this, like Miranda is like her level of wanting 363 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 7: to be independent is like an actual detriment to her. Yeah, 364 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 7: like thinking that you're gonna leave Lasik eye surgery alone. Yeah, crazy. 365 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: I used to jokingly call this the single Lady Olympics, 366 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: or I'd be like, I have. 367 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 4: To do this by myself. 368 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 6: What more can I do alone? 369 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: At least you have to do it one time. I'm 370 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: to prove to yourself and then after that, okay, you 371 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: can help me. Yeah, it's one of those levels. Actually, 372 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: this couch is really heavy. My stairs are very dodging. 373 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 7: What I can't stop thinking about now is that there's 374 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 7: this discourse about like lasick being like terrible. Yeah, people 375 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 7: are havings who never get lasick but give lasick to 376 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 7: other people. 377 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that made me think about that. Yeah. 378 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: I mean I've heard people talking about the fact that 379 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: they've had a lot of problems. 380 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 4: It doesn't work. It was reversed later on always yeah. 381 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I had it and it's been a long 382 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: time and I think it's good. I loved it. 383 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I still love it. 384 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: I've been told by several that my stigmatism is way 385 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: too intense, and they gave me alternatives. It's like, you're 386 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: never going to have I'm like, well, then, what's the point. 387 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: I am. 388 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing. 389 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm standing here all the cordless phones. Watching that, 390 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 4: I kind of love it. 391 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like we should bring back home phone 392 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 7: so you don't have to give out your cell phone 393 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 7: all the time. 394 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's so funny to me? I laughed because there 395 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: was a TikTok video of like we need to do 396 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: something where you just have a phone that's a central 397 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: phone for everyone at home, and everybody's like it's called 398 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: the hell. 399 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 9: Line. 400 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: Bring back corded phones, the ones that were on the wall. 401 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: My grandparents, Yes, my parents still have one parents. 402 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 3: Nice pole. I want to see it again. 403 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 404 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 9: Oh, Samantha rode the poll a couple of times that night. 405 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: There's other firefighters in the other room exactly like they're 406 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: in a public transport. 407 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 6: And she's not even trying to be discreet. 408 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: This is hubble, you don't care. I should be a 409 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: fireman because I'm always ready to go. Yeah, she's on duty, 410 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 4: like she's fully in someone's clothing. 411 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: Why she she's like, wait, what's happening? 412 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: Like I'm at a fire station, what is happening? 413 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: Obviously they were already set up for emergency situations. 414 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: She's a pretty good job. 415 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 2: It's like man herself pretty well, She's done this before Yeah, 416 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: not her first row. 417 00:21:50,080 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: You can tell, so you are pretty much wrong. 418 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 4: You definitely get like an you. 419 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 7: Did say something about their dealing with their own crisis, 420 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 7: maybe literal or not. 421 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 2: All right, that's how throwing answer. Well, the one as 422 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: that you typically give is the whole they go to 423 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: a party or they go to a p which I 424 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 2: was waiting for that because that's also true. 425 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: I'll give you a D. 426 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: Then I'll give you a D. The s C, even 427 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: though it was an s C, I, even though it 428 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: was a good guess, was way off. And the fact 429 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: that there was no mention of fire or firefighters, the firefighters, 430 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: I don't think you would have gotten. 431 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 4: That's that's a big stretch. 432 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 6: You're sure saying fire. 433 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: You miss the like big piece of Chris. 434 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: Christina's episode was fairly uh more on topic because I 435 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: think that this was a little more like em there's 436 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: no actual fire, there's no smoke as where because Christina's 437 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: was about the batter up or she was the opening 438 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: of season two right in which they go to a 439 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: baseball game, okay, and so she's like, did they mentioned balls? 440 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: And she's like, they're going to talk about baseball or ball? 441 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: It's like her Christina, but like it also mentioning of 442 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: like the balls and there was so like she was 443 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: on it. 444 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: But this one is a little more I guess, metaphorical 445 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: than the other. So i'll give you that. 446 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 6: Which there's smoke. 447 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 7: What do we think the title was referring to specifically, 448 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 7: other than the fire, maybe. 449 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: The rescuing. 450 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 6: Where there's smoke, there's like distress. 451 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, in general, Like that's what because like there was 452 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 2: a lot of conversation of rescuing, so you would have 453 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: thought that would have been like something different in that level. 454 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I guess all the men in this 455 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 7: episode at some point where attempting to enact some sort 456 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 7: of rescuing or idea of what rescuing looks like. We're 457 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 7: playing into a fantasy and some point yeah, yeah, and 458 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 7: the thing is like. 459 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 2: Okay, in this point, we do see where there's a 460 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: fear of not having a rescuer and then there's a 461 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 2: fear of having a rescuer. 462 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 4: You have that two very distinct complicated crisis. 463 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 7: As you would say, Yeah, yeah, I mean, I would 464 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 7: say I think a lot of the conversations that they 465 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 7: were having in this specific episode are pretty relevant to 466 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 7: you today. You know, I think a lot of women 467 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 7: are in this particular place where, you know, it is 468 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 7: more we've gotten to a point where it is more 469 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 7: acceptable to be an independent woman. But then you get 470 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 7: to a point where you're like, oh wait, like if 471 00:24:53,800 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 7: I want these things companionship or friendship or family with 472 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 7: another person, whatever, it is, like, how am I gonna 473 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 7: get that? Does that mean I have to sacrifice on 474 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 7: my independence or you know, I think this was a 475 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 7: very relevant episode. I would say as far as most 476 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 7: of them go. 477 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: I think we're also having that conversation because the trad 478 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: wife thing is coming back really quickly. So you've had 479 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: the two extremes because for a minute, for a split second, 480 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 2: there was this understanding that you do want it all 481 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: and what does that mean? And it's okay to be 482 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 2: a stay at home mom. That's not a problem. That's 483 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: not the problem at all. It's the choices of whether 484 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: or not you can and whether you want to. Both 485 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: of those are in conversation, and now it's kind of 486 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: like back into the extreme of like, well, we have 487 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: to combat what tradwives are doing in that level of 488 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: like you are telling us that we are wrong for 489 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 2: not wanting to be a mom afore making bread at 490 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: home and telling everybody I listened to my husband type 491 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 2: of conversation in a very heteronormative conversation. So like it's 492 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: it feels like this was in the moment of like 493 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: starting to understand that it's not a bad thing to 494 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: want to be a stay at home mom. It's not 495 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 2: a bad thing to not want to be a stay 496 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: at home mom, to want to be married, to not 497 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: want to be married, to take a last name, to 498 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: not take you know, like all these like complicated conversations, 499 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: and like the understanding that feminism, or especially when it 500 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: comes to intersectionality, is the choice. 501 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 4: That's that's the conversation. 502 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think to your point about trad wives, 503 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 7: I think it's very interesting, especially when you bring in 504 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 7: the intersectional pieces that you know, there's some people who 505 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 7: are being pointed to is like this epitome of tradwife culture, 506 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 7: but they're actually kind of the antithesis because they don't 507 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 7: fall into the white, you know, Anglo saxon, you know, 508 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 7: stereotype of what a trad wife would be. So in 509 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 7: some sense, it is kind of like a rebellion of 510 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 7: sorts to be able to occupy this you know, visual 511 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 7: of what a tradwife might look like, but in a 512 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 7: body that doesn't represent what it would have been. So 513 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 7: it's like they're all of these different rethinking like what 514 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 7: is possible and what that means and what's okay and 515 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 7: what's not. Like I think sometimes we are so in 516 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 7: the point of like we want women to be independent 517 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 7: and be able to take care of themselves that like 518 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 7: seeing someone be reliant on a partner feels aggressive in 519 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 7: the other sense of like you're pushing against my freedom 520 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 7: in some way. 521 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and definitely. 522 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: The conversation I think again it comes back to like, no, 523 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: the bottom line is choosing. Do they have the freedom 524 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 2: to choose in either way. It's like the other conversation 525 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: is that with this whole, especially when CIS men come 526 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: into play, and having this conversation of like you're not 527 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: gonna get married and you're gonna you're gonna regret these things, 528 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 2: and you're not gonna have children, You're gonna regret these things. 529 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: No one's gonna want you after this point in time, 530 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: and telling women they have a timeline. But then like 531 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: having that aloud conversation like yeah, I would love to 532 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: be the housewife as you would call it, which is 533 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: really outdated. Yeah, in that I say, you actually do 534 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: bring all of the money, and then I will be 535 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: that you do whatever I want. Like that is that 536 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: is a great ideal, but that's no longer what like 537 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: is expected. It's like, no, we do fifty to fifty 538 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: and then I do eighty percent of the housework, and like. 539 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 6: That's one hundred. 540 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 4: Because at the veriliest at least. 541 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: You need to go bow of the yard, like some 542 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 2: ideas in that level. Yeah, but like that's that conversation 543 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: of like, okay, but what does this look like? Because 544 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: in the end, like for a lot of women who 545 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: have and I'm putting this and when I say women, 546 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm including all women people marginalized communities, knowing that they 547 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: can't rely on anyone else because they've been told or 548 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: they've seen an evidence in their life that it's not 549 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: going to be that way. And so part of the 550 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: thing of not relying is not because they don't want to, 551 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: is because they can't they don't trust it, or they've 552 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: been burned. 553 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a whole different conversation. 554 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: Right in this because like Miranda has that level of 555 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: both of those things, and like, I don't completely trust 556 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: you because to be fair, Steve walked away because he 557 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: was very insecure about not making as much money than her, 558 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: because she was all in round one, you know, and 559 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: he's the one that left. He felt emasculated when she's like, 560 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: I'll just buy you the suit, yeah, to an event, 561 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: you know, like this is like that level of like okay, 562 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: and then coming back in so she's not fully gonna 563 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: invest I wouldn't either. I am one of those two, 564 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: like in that I'm a Miranda level, which for the 565 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: long time I thought this is not a good thing. 566 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to be Miranda. I am in Miranda 567 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: in that like if you burn me, I'm gonna be 568 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: very cautious. I'm gonna be that's very cautious. I'm still 569 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: a Libra. So I'll give you a chance until you 570 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: until you get her too. So I know, I'll give 571 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: you some leeway for a while, but if it gets 572 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: too then I shut down. 573 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting. One of the things in 574 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: watching this show now, so many times things that were 575 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: romanticized then are not. Yeah, and so in this case, 576 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: like I do feel like Charlotte's violent fellow, Well, at 577 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: the end she realized he was bad, but that was 578 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: kind of like a romanticize all the guy's gonna protect you, 579 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna step in. You've got this stalker guy, which 580 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: was romanticized for all time. And then like, yeah, Miranda, 581 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: on the other side, I did that too, because like 582 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: literally with the I thing, because I was afraid, like 583 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: saying yes would mean more to him than it meant 584 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: to me, even if I was very clear like that's 585 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: not what this is about, true that he'd be like, oh, yeah, 586 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: to get you. And then they get home and it's like, 587 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: can I guess you're not You're like, no. 588 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 4: What I told you? 589 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: And she did. 590 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: She was like, we don't know what we are the 591 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: dt D never forget the DTR because she was like, 592 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: you know, we haven't established and she's also saying that 593 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: to the front. She was like, there's no having of 594 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: the thieve, which is line in that like. 595 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, he literally slept in her bed. 596 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but we know. 597 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: And that's the other part in that conversation, like we've 598 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: come a long way with women being able to be 599 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: sexually free and being like that doesn't mean I have 600 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: to commit to you, just like you might not commit 601 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: to me. 602 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 8: Yeah. 603 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean with Stamantha that was nice where she was like, 604 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, this is my fantasy, dudes do it all 605 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: the time, and the let's go she did. 606 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 7: Also, that guy was like very like he had nothing 607 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 7: going on, so I don't think he would have caught 608 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 7: on anyway. 609 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: I don't think he cared. 610 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: He was nice, but he's like, hey, all right, so Annie, 611 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: we have had what just happened? Do you have any 612 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: now do you have any predictions of maybe things to come? 613 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 8: Well? 614 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. I don't know how long the 615 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: slattery you guys gonna stay around. I think Steve is 616 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: gonna I think Steve is gonna get back into the picture. 617 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm now convinced a and will show up, but I 618 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: don't know when that might be a mid season reveal. 619 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: I do feel bad because I'm doing the thing that 620 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: bready complain about, Like I'm assuming guys are going to 621 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: come to the fiction. 622 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 7: I mean fair like the show is kind of a 623 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 7: you know, friendship of course, but also the relationships that 624 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 7: they're right. 625 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 4: But it's like it's also very heteronormous, like very like 626 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 4: that level. 627 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: Except for one episode that is coming through that's ridiculously problematic, 628 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: like you're you're going to be offended. 629 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: It's bad. 630 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 4: It's like like one of the. 631 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it'sn't that level, like they're trying to be open, 632 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: you can like it is one of those badly placed like. 633 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 7: Like season three, the critics were probably yeah, I don't know, 634 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 7: maybe not at the time, maybe they weren't like representation. 635 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't they wanted representation, but it was all 636 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: kit cheek, token ish, yeah, citation, and then they were 637 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: trying to make it a joke, which is why we've 638 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: seen a lot. Like one of the big problematic episodes 639 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: I remember from thirty Rock, it's similar to this in 640 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: which she talks about like she's giving out love advice 641 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: and then they're like, you know he's bisexual. 642 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 4: She's like, there's no such thing. It's just a layover 643 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 4: to gay town or whatever. That's what she says. 644 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: But like, but like it's so problematic, you're like, oh, 645 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: but they're trying to be funny. Yeah, And that's kind 646 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: of what Sex and the City does too, from a 647 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: very queer from very queer staff, Like we know that 648 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: the creator is a queer man, and so it's. 649 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: Kind of like oh you didn't think that went through. 650 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 7: But also at the time, I think like in the 651 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 7: community there was probably just more acceptance of that as well. 652 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: Right, So there's so many things, But yes, I think 653 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: we got the predictions put it in my head. 654 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: Did not forget you had it? What did you think? 655 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 6: I really liked this episode. 656 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 7: I think it was kind of it was a soft launch, 657 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 7: is how I feel about for a season opener. It 658 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 7: was like a nice easing in, you know, nothing too crazy, 659 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 7: but I felt like, you know, we really got a 660 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 7: good sense of where everybody is currently, like where there 661 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 7: their consciousness is, where everybody's thinking, and like that lays 662 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 7: the groundwork for the rest of the season. 663 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I loved it. 664 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 7: I mean I haven't watched the show in so long, 665 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 7: so it was fun to bring it back. Yeah, to 666 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 7: get back in and like maybe I'll watch the rest 667 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 7: of the season. 668 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 669 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: So I do eventually think it's now that we have 670 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: had the entire team in at least one episode, we 671 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: need to come together maybe the season for Alley or something, 672 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: and have a whole like viewing. 673 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 4: With all of us. 674 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: That would be so good. 675 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: And this is what we've already talked with like trying 676 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: to get Joey in on it too, because we were 677 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: talking about them bringing bringing them in to watch the 678 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 2: final Twilight. 679 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 7: Oh oh my god, Okay, I need to I need 680 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 7: to brush up on Twilight because I specifically you recall 681 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 7: falling asleep in the second movie. I was dragged to 682 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 7: the midnight showing, right, so I do not remember anything, 683 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 7: but yeah, that might be even better though. 684 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, to have the reaction to be like oh yeah, 685 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: oh no, oh yeah, yeah, good mix. 686 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for sitting in with us, 687 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: for providing this lovely beverage has allowed me to stay awake. 688 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 6: Thank you for having me again. Yes for welcoming me back. 689 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: Yes, it was so fun. 690 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 691 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: I have missed these, so I'm excited to get through 692 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,959 Speaker 1: the season and see where it goes. 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