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Speaker 1: My next guest is a very very popular film and

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Speaker 1: television actress. You've seen her in movies like Thinking Like

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Speaker 1: She was recently seen on owns new series of Girlfriends

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Speaker 1: At Powerful Practice for finding the Love of your Life

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Speaker 1: She's a philanthropist, started the Greater the Greater Good Foundation

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Speaker 1: with our sister and an entrepreneur. Were good girl raps

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Speaker 1: I've seen since I Am at least six times. I'm

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Speaker 1: just a guy. I've seen that ending probably about ten

429
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Speaker 1: times because it's just so cute and when you and

430
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Speaker 1: all the characters recognized that they go to adulthood, and

431
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,719
Speaker 1: when you somehow it works so perfectly for you and

432
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Speaker 1: you just you gotta downpack congratulations. I just want to

433
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Speaker 1: just tell you that dis congratulated. It's it's it's believable.

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Speaker 1: It's very cute. It makes me smile. Even when I'm

435
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Speaker 1: talking to you about right now. I'm smiling because it's

436
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Speaker 1: just one of my favorite parts of the movie. And

437
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to exam too, because I know that

438
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Speaker 1: character is gonna be fleshed out a little bit more

439
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 1: and we'll see it a lot earlier than the movie

440
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Speaker 1: instead of the end of the movie. And I don't

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Speaker 1: feel I'm giving away the movie. If anybody has not

442
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 1: seen it, maybe you'll watch it now because when you

443
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Speaker 1: get to that part of the movie, you'll be smiling

444
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Speaker 1: just like Rashan McDonald. I want to make a trader.

445
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Speaker 1: I want to make a transition to you, to you,

446
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Speaker 1: you and your husband. On the cover of the book

447
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Speaker 1: to Wait. First of all, compliments to both of you guys.

448
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Speaker 1: Very attractive couple. Y'all look fantastic. It's called The Way,

449
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Speaker 1: A Powerful practice for finding the love of your life

450
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Speaker 1: and the life you love. Why did you write this

451
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Speaker 1: book with him? Um? It's interesting because the short version is,

452
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Speaker 1: you know, when Devon and I got together, Um, I

453
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Speaker 1: just came out of a kind of a verbally abusive relationship.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't just the other person, it was both

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Speaker 1: of us. We were not good for each other. But um,

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Speaker 1: I literally said, Lord, what am I supposed to be doing?

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Speaker 1: And he told me three things. He said, get out

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Speaker 1: of that relationship. I need you to be celibant, and

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Speaker 1: Devon is your husband, and I said divine is. And

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Speaker 1: I was like wait, And I was like, what am

461
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Speaker 1: I supposed to do? And God was just like nothing,

462
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Speaker 1: just work on yourself. So from that point forward, I

463
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Speaker 1: worked on becoming celibant. I wasn't you know, successful immediately,

464
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Speaker 1: but ultimately I was. And about a few months into it,

465
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Speaker 1: about five months into getting that revelation, I told a

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Speaker 1: friend of mine that Divon was my husband. And she said, oh, girl,

467
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Speaker 1: she's you know he's a preacher, right. I said no,

468
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Speaker 1: and I said, well, I thought would have scared me away,

469
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Speaker 1: but I know what God told me, so it's okay.

470
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Speaker 1: And I said and I said, and you know, um,

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Speaker 1: she said, you know that he's celibant, right And I said, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm celibant too. She said, no, girl, he's for real selibank. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So because he was preaching, he had been selevant for years. Um.

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Speaker 1: And she was like, yeah, you and you you're few

475
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Speaker 1: months girl? Yeah? Whatever you know anyways, and so um,

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Speaker 1: when Divided and I got together, it was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was we were sublevant for that for our our

478
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Speaker 1: year together before we got married. And it was the

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Speaker 1: best experience of my life because I got to know

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Speaker 1: him the way that it's like I got to know

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Speaker 1: him in like four months, the way it took me

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Speaker 1: to get to know someone in four years. And that's

483
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Speaker 1: because there was no It was intimacy in terms of

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Speaker 1: like emotion and spiritually, but there was no physical intimacy

485
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Speaker 1: it that way. So really all I had to do

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Speaker 1: was desides, Do I like you as a human being?

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Speaker 1: Do I enjoy being with you? Do I want to

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Speaker 1: spend a lifetime with you? Are you? Are you about

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Speaker 1: the same thing as in life? Are we going to

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Speaker 1: the same place? We compliment each other in their purpose?

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Speaker 1: So all that stuff was so clear because there was

492
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Speaker 1: no distractions. That the reason we ended up writing the

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Speaker 1: book it is because people kept asking us about it

494
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll tell them the story whatever, and

495
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: they were like, we really would love to have a

496
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Speaker 1: book about this, and the like, I guess we'll just

497
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: will write a book. Not to be preachy and I

498
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: tell people to do, but to tell them what our

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Speaker 1: experience was and just to be transparent about that. And

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Speaker 1: if it helps someone and blessing someone great, you know,

501
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Speaker 1: and well I'm ben't even helping a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: There's two things I want to bring out about the book.

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Speaker 1: The way, it's not about sex, but it begins with sex.

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Speaker 1: It's a book about relationships. And one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: lines in the book is this um the way the

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Speaker 1: way you stop is okay, in your book, the way

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Speaker 1: you stop stop picking and choosing which parts of the

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Speaker 1: Bible you will follow. I read that and I just

509
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Speaker 1: bust out laughing, because not only do is does that

510
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Speaker 1: line apply to me, but so many people we go,

511
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Speaker 1: we'll do this. It's too much work to do everything,

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna follow this over here. But as you say,

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Speaker 1: you can't part time follow God. Yeah that's what you're saying. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the biggest thing is that

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Speaker 1: I think we do tend to pick and choose, and

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Speaker 1: especially as it pertains the sex, because we feel like, well,

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Speaker 1: you lord, you have to understand this party. You gave

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Speaker 1: us some parties. You know you don't want to do it.

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Speaker 1: You know, all the Christians and things, is doing it

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Speaker 1: not come all? And you make you know, just like

521
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Speaker 1: when I when I first left my virginity, I you know,

522
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Speaker 1: I said I'll wait till I'm gonna get married. I

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Speaker 1: left my virginity at nineteen and it was later than

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Speaker 1: most of my friends. But it was also like I

525
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Speaker 1: was like, well, this is my first love. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: marry him, so you know it's my husband anyways, and

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Speaker 1: the point it wasn't um, but I realized, you know,

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Speaker 1: I lived my life like every times where I felt

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Speaker 1: bad and I would like repent and I would not

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Speaker 1: have sex for months, and then you know, and it

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Speaker 1: just I realized that I was really picking and choosing

532
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: and giving myself license instead of saying, let me just

533
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Speaker 1: try to do the hardest thing that there is to

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Speaker 1: do in terms of the commandments, and let's see how

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Speaker 1: that goes. And what I realized is the once I

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Speaker 1: conquered that, and I found that discipline within myself for

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00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: delaid gratification and to not pick and choose. It gave

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Speaker 1: me the freedom and the power to have more self

539
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: control over so many areas. I hated working out, and

540
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: you know it was never gonna happen because the discipline

541
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: I learned from the weight is why I was able

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00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: to work out, which ultimately resulted in Shazam and ultimately

543
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: resulted in me about to be thirty nine. I'm in

544
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: the best shape of my life because my lifestyle changed,

545
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: because my discipline change because of the way. So it's

546
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: not just relationships, it's it's across the board. It changed

547
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: my life because you guys got out with correct and

548
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Speaker 1: I have to say, i'd have to say, like I said,

549
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of yours. I have to say that

550
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: period between and now I have to say, it's been

551
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: the most the best part of your career. I don't

552
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: want to be sound insulting. I'm talking about the movies,

553
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: the films, the projects, your your brand, your your your

554
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: bill of your luck. You glow. You know when you're

555
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: with your husband, y'all, you glow. And that comes back

556
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: to discipline and honesty with yourself. And that is my

557
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: That is one of the takeaways that I had with

558
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: the book to Wait And if you don't mind it's

559
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: it's because it's on my shelf at my home because

560
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: I gave it to my daughter. She read it, and

561
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: I have a home in Houston and Atlanta. Have it

562
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: keep it in my Atlanta home. Uh is still available

563
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: to be bought the book, Yeah, yeah, Amazon, just about anywhere.

564
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: So if you if you feel a little surge in

565
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: book sales, because Roushan McDonald's gonna do this. I have

566
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: an eighty thousand fans fan Club email newsletter I sent

567
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: out every Friday at nine am. I'm gonna put this

568
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: book in my news letter. Okay, and because I feel

569
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: that there's so many inconsistencies I've had in my life

570
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: and one of the things that doing money making Conversations

571
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: has allowed me to. You know, I made a lot

572
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: of people famous, I made a lot of corporations money

573
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: in my life. But what I've what I've done is

574
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: found with Sean McDonald and I just talking to you

575
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: on this doing this interview, it's just so fulfilling to

576
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: me because of the fact that you got it, Megan,

577
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: you you you you clearly are comfortable with yourself. You

578
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: clearly are happy with yourself, and you're a beautiful person.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a that's awesome. Congratulations. Wow, that bless me.

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00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: Thank thank you, thank you for that. You know, I

581
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: have to be honest because of the fact that and

582
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: I try to do this show and and expose people.

583
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: Be uh when I when I dropped the whole idea

584
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: of money making conversations. You know, we may talk about

585
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: your career, why you talk about this when the people

586
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: come on the show, But I always want to pull

587
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: back the curtain so people can just talk. And I

588
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: want to play no music. I have no ambush questions.

589
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: I just want them to just really talk and this

590
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: is gonna be well received in my platform, this interview

591
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: and you're just special. I just wanted to keep winning

592
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: and uh, and I'd like to get your husband voone

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00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: on the show to talk about it. Like I have

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00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: something that call a power Couples. I bring power couples

595
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: on my show together so they can talk. And uh.

596
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: That's a very popular series I have with money making conversations.

597
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: But more importantly, you know, you know you made me happy.

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00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna do exam to You're coming back in that.

599
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: You're standing in shape, so you're gonna be ready for that.

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00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: The girl girl raps. You know, we sold that in

601
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: certain things right now, but we're gonna get that up

602
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: and running because guess what, I'm gonna put that in

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00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: my newsletter. That means sold. That's a good thing. Make

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00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: it sold, that's a good thing. You have a good,

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00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: great good foundation. But that you started with your sister

606
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: that's doing great things and the and the weight is

607
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: a blessing that I want to put back that put

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00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: out there in my platform to the world. Eight percent

609
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: of my followers are female and they need to hear

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00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: the word, and the word is being delivered by you

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00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: and your husband, and it's a written word. And guess

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00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: what the Bible is written word, not saying it's the Bible,

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00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: but the reflections of the reflections of what you're talking about.

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00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: I guide it from the word, and that's important that

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00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: people need to read and also share. And I want

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00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 1: to thank you for calling my show making. Yeah, I

617
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: want to thank you for even thinking to have me

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Speaker 1: and wanting to out me, and thank you for affirming

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Speaker 1: me as well importing into me as well, because it

620
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: seems like a small thing to say the things that

621
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Speaker 1: you said, but it's not. And I really appreciate it

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00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: and I really received it. And I thank you for

623
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: having you with my hands. My hands are put together

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Speaker 1: my borrowing forward and a blessed state and a prepare

625
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: like state because we will talk again in the future.

626
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: Be safe during these pandemic times. Tell your husband high

627
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: and anytime you want to promote I might have them

628
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: reach out and if they can get some art work

629
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Speaker 1: or something like that. I just want to put anything

630
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: tack out there, especially about your wraps and all this stuff.

631
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: We were staying close with my staff to make sure

632
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: that anytime you're releasing the thing in a movie and

633
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: the sitcom. Anything you do in television or as an entrepreneur,

634
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: all with your foundation, bring it to me so I

635
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: can promote it. It's not about I don't charge you

636
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: the money with my social media. I just want to

637
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: spread love and litter. I know that you can win,

638
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: and you win it through relationships, and that's what you're preaching.

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Speaker 1: A young lady. Keep on preaching. Thank you, Thank you

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Speaker 1: spooks to me, self empowerment speaker, entrepreneur, talent manager and

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Speaker 1: author of I Once Was Her. She is famous with

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Speaker 1: Me and the Mamager or a talent manager to wrapp

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Speaker 1: her film and television star lil Ba. Wow. Please, welcome

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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation entrepreneur and author Teresa Cardwell, Hi guys,

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Speaker 1: how are you? Hihi Atrisa? How you doing? My friend?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so blessed. It's been a long time, right,

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Speaker 1: it's been you know, it's really interesting. Let's let's go

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Speaker 1: back and give a history of how we met. We

687
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Speaker 1: met in Los Angeles a little by and by a

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Speaker 1: thousand people came into the Steve Harvard Morning Shows radio

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Speaker 1: booth and that was the first thing counter we met.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a rising star and uh in the business,

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Speaker 1: and uh I like to believe that Steve and I helped, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, fuel his success by supporting him in the music.

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Speaker 1: But you stood out because you were his talent manager

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Speaker 1: and still the talent managers today. Correct, Yes, well right now,

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Speaker 1: I only managed television and film, and I do like

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Speaker 1: branding and marketing. Awesome, awesome, So talk about you know,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you're coming on the book, coming on show,

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Speaker 1: talking about the book. I once was her. I read

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Speaker 1: the book a very good read, very fast read, because

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Speaker 1: of the fact, because of the fact. You know, if

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Speaker 1: when you read the book, Teresa Um, if this was

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Speaker 1: a play, if it was a dramatic play, because you

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Speaker 1: introduced different people who are important relationships in your life,

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Speaker 1: I would sit. That would put you in the middle

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Speaker 1: of room, and I have a spotlight on you, and

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Speaker 1: the entire room will be dark, okay, and then a

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Speaker 1: light would shine on Curtis Martin. He stand up, and

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Speaker 1: he says, and then a night was signed up on

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Speaker 1: another person. They stand up. Because that's how that was

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Speaker 1: the feeling that I had when I read the book,

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Speaker 1: because it felt like various levels of testimonials about not long.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're just one of some of them one pages,

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Speaker 1: some of them were two or three pages, the little

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Speaker 1: and so, but they were important because they described layers

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Speaker 1: in your life. There the changes in your life, and

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Speaker 1: how they were important. So talk about the the angle

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Speaker 1: and the thought and putting that did I described the

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Speaker 1: approach to your book from a theatrical standpoint, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you did, you did? And see what the reason why

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Speaker 1: I chose to write the book that way. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big reader, right, so I wanted to

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Speaker 1: make my book different because I wanted to catch you know,

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Speaker 1: my readers. I wanted them because you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of times were the book. We'll start reading a book

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Speaker 1: to put it down. But I wanted my book to

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Speaker 1: be an easy read. So I'm so glad that you

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Speaker 1: got that. You took that from the book. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to be an easy read, and I wanted it to

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Speaker 1: I wanted my readers to feel what I went through.

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Speaker 1: And I wanted each one of my friends to write

731
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Speaker 1: something about me, like what did they experience with me

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Speaker 1: or by me being their friends? And I picked the

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Speaker 1: I picked the girls who were you know, who are

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Speaker 1: the closest to me to start each chapter. And I

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Speaker 1: picked Curtis Martin to do my forward because that's my brother,

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Speaker 1: and he knows everything about me. Right. Well, you know

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Speaker 1: the thing about the book, uh, and I'd say it's

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Speaker 1: a testimonial, it's a it's a shout out to UH survival.

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Speaker 1: It's out overcoming the odds, single parenting from a woman's perspective,

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Speaker 1: choosing the right mate, and also more importantly the importance

741
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Speaker 1: of fatherhood UH in a young girl's life. Because I

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Speaker 1: have a daughter, she's twenty two, and I always, I

743
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Speaker 1: always have the firm belief that she's going to pick

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Speaker 1: a version of me when she goes out there making

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Speaker 1: her selection process. And so I'm very conscious in my

746
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Speaker 1: communications with her. She can talk to me about anything. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I will stop when I'm doing if she had if

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Speaker 1: she wants my attention, not because I'm trying to baby her.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know what's through her mind because

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Speaker 1: she may have a question they might shape especially when

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Speaker 1: you're young. When you're young, you just grab information that

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Speaker 1: people don't understand that that information that people grabs as

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Speaker 1: a young person will hang can hang through to them

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Speaker 1: for the rest of their lives. And so and that

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Speaker 1: was you you know your your your father who's now deceased.

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Speaker 1: Play you know he was played an important role in

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Speaker 1: shaping you initially, and let's talk about that. That the

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Speaker 1: importance of a male figure in your life at an

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Speaker 1: early age. I feel like, for me, and I only

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Speaker 1: speak for my experiences, I feel like, for me, as

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Speaker 1: a little girl, the first man that we will love

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Speaker 1: as our father. I feel like that love that we

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Speaker 1: get from our father or a father figure is so

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Speaker 1: key until a little girl when she grows up, because

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Speaker 1: that's the type of man that she's going to search for.

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Speaker 1: So for me, I didn't have that type of father love.

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Speaker 1: So I I searched for what I knew and the

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Speaker 1: and I searched for the love that I that I

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Speaker 1: got from my father, and it wasn't the best love.

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Speaker 1: So I attracted, you know, men who treated me kind

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Speaker 1: of like my father, who were verbally abusive, who felt

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Speaker 1: like I wasn't good enough, who I always tried to

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Speaker 1: prove to my father that I was going to be

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Speaker 1: great and it was just hard. So for me, those

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Speaker 1: are the type of men that I chose, you know,

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Speaker 1: my younger age. I chose those type of guys. And

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Speaker 1: then I also chose the type of guys that my

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Speaker 1: mother dated. And my mother dated abusers, so I watched

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Speaker 1: my mother get abused, so I attracted abusers because that's

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Speaker 1: what I knew. And so with me, I had to

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Speaker 1: stop the cycle. So there was the time I would

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Speaker 1: never remember. I would never forget it when I got

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Speaker 1: beat so bad that my ex guide the abuser, he

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Speaker 1: knocks my I looked like the elephant man's little sister,

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Speaker 1: Like that's why. Yeah, And so for me just looking

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Speaker 1: at my face and just look at my body, just

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Speaker 1: look at how I looked. And I had to lie

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Speaker 1: to my son and tell my son that I fell

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Speaker 1: down the stairs. And from that point, yeah, from that point,

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Speaker 1: I was just like, you know what, I gotta break

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Speaker 1: the cycle. Like I don't want to be anything like

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Speaker 1: my mother, and I don't want to dake anything like

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Speaker 1: the guys my mom dated and I And so that

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Speaker 1: right there was a wake up call for me. Know,

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Speaker 1: let's let's talk about that. Because I know when he

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Speaker 1: when he abused you, you even called his father, and

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Speaker 1: his father came over and he saw what he had

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Speaker 1: done to you physically, he told him he would beat

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Speaker 1: him up if he did that to you again. And

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Speaker 1: guess what, he still did it anyway, And so so

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Speaker 1: what people don't understand about abuse. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: I'm an expert expert an expert in abuse. It is

803
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Speaker 1: a book, but there's a journey. There's years like you

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Speaker 1: got kicked out of the house when you were stiff

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Speaker 1: team because the fact that the boar friend that was

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Speaker 1: dating your mom at the time was physically beating her

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Speaker 1: up and your only recourse was to call the police.

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Speaker 1: They arrested him from the mom, like the most domestic situations,

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Speaker 1: sided with the man and told him that you had

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Speaker 1: to go, and you were thrown out with no guidance, snow,

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Speaker 1: no support system. If your mom had four sisters, they

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Speaker 1: didn't want anything to do with you, and the state

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Speaker 1: because you didn't know what to go, We had no

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Speaker 1: options you you might as well have been in jail

816
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Speaker 1: because you didn't have any support and so so so

817
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Speaker 1: it's just struggling to find yourself. And then along the way,

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Speaker 1: of course you got pregnant. Twife one of the second

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Speaker 1: child was And so love is really interesting when I

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Speaker 1: read about it in your book, because there is emotional love,

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Speaker 1: and there's physical love, and then there's loving yourself let's

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the emotional love and let's talk about

823
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Speaker 1: the physical love in that order, because the emotional love

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Speaker 1: of what you were trying to get from your parents

825
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Speaker 1: and you didn't get it. Yeah, the emotional Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: emotional love that I was searching for. You're absolutely right,

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Speaker 1: was the love that I was trying to get from

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Speaker 1: my mother and my father, and I didn't get that.

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Speaker 1: And then you can continue, Teresa, I apologize. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: so so when you when you were searching for that

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Speaker 1: emotional love, it's really hard where you don't get that

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Speaker 1: from your your parents, Like I didn't get it, right,

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Speaker 1: I didn't get it searching for it, and it was

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Speaker 1: sad because of the fact that you know I'm talking.

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Speaker 1: Just just set up everybody talking to Teresa Caldwell. She's

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Speaker 1: the author of the new book and it's uh. You

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Speaker 1: can order pre ordered right now. It's called I Once

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Speaker 1: was her Um. It would be out officially in June

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Speaker 1: June this year. Uh. It's a good book to I'll

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Speaker 1: tell people are there now. But because of you, ared,

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Speaker 1: she become a New York Times bestseller based on the

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Speaker 1: pre orders, because boom, you know, I know the system

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Speaker 1: a system and so, but one of the things that

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Speaker 1: when I'm when I'm reading the book and we're about

845
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Speaker 1: to close out this first break, is that you know,

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Speaker 1: as a man, I felt helpless reading your story because

847
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Speaker 1: as a man, I would not have done any of

848
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Speaker 1: these things to any woman, not let alone you. So

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Speaker 1: so when you when you when these men try to

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Speaker 1: play what you consider an important role in your life

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Speaker 1: and you accept that they're gonna abuse you, when is

852
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: the acceptance becomes okay to an abuse it or do

853
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: you even know when it's okay you just accepted? Can

854
00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: you answer that question? You know what, like speak to

855
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: my experiences, like you really don't know. I didn't know

856
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: because I just accepted it. I accepted it because I

857
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: felt like for me, because I saw that going up.

858
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: I felt like that abuse, the hits and all that stuff.

859
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: At the beginning, I felt like that was his way

860
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: of showing me that he loved me. You know, I

861
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: felt like that was his way of showing me that

862
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: he loved me because in my mind, I felt like,

863
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, because I saw my mother go through it.

864
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: I felt like when he hit me and then like

865
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: he would apologize and be like I only did that

866
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: because you know, I want you to know that I

867
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: care for you, I care about you, I love you.

868
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: That's the only way. That's why I did it. So

869
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: that's what happens. Like for me, that's what I thought, like,

870
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: oh my god at the beginning, like he believe loves me.

871
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: I was young, but he loves me. To hit me,

872
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: to abuse me, he loves me, and to keep coming

873
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: back and supporting it. Yeah, what's the blind slide. But

874
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: the sad part about it is that you were young.

875
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: We have women in the thirties, for these fifties and

876
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: sixties that are dealing with these situations. I'm talking to

877
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: Teresa car World, This beautiful, well put together woman has

878
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: had her share of tears and mountains to climb. Teresa's

879
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: book is a Row, Row, Look a Row, looking to

880
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: the dark side of her life growing up before fame

881
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: and fortune, and that tells the story of rejection, abandonment,

882
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: and physical abuse. Will be right back with more. We're

883
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: talking about her online taste, online boutique, but more important,

884
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: a testimony of overcoming the odds, a testimony of realizing

885
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: that one has to love themselves first in order to

886
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: understand the path out of the domestic abuse. You have

887
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: to look in the mirror and said, look, I am important.

888
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: I am the person that should be on top of

889
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: this game. If you don't ever admit that to yourself,

890
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: you will always be in a state of abuse. Not

891
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: by your not because somebody is giving it to it,

892
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: because you are accepting it the beauty of it. Like

893
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: I said, we met in Los Angeles. U came into

894
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: the radio studio, and uh, I always thought we had

895
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: a good relationship because I understood I was a talented

896
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: manager for then Steve Harvey and dealing with all the

897
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: ins and out. But you are mom manager, which is

898
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: a different perspective because of the fact that you know

899
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: as a manager, you you you basically I was the father, priest, accountant, uh, motivator,

900
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: crisis guy, and so to have an actual relationship with

901
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: a young man like like wow, and then to send

902
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: him off at a very early age under the under

903
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 1: the chair of Suge Knight, under the care and guiding

904
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: some snoop dog. Talk about that moment and all those

905
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: moments because you had to be uh like biting your

906
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: fingernails on that one. But you have no options, I know,

907
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: you know what like for me like it was. It

908
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: was fun. I must say it was. It was fun

909
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: um and I recognized early on and that you know,

910
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: Bod was smart ize I recognized his talent. And I

911
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: also it was his dream. You know, it was a dream.

912
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: So what I did was I was like, you know what,

913
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: this is something that he wants to do. This is

914
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: his gift. So as a parent, I wanted to make

915
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: sure he was able to live out his dream. So

916
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: I trusted Snoop. I trusted shuld like the relationship that

917
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: I had with Shugg you know back in the day,

918
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: like I didn't like. I had a great relationship with

919
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: all of them, and they all looked out for Bout's

920
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: best interest even when I wasn't around, you know. So

921
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: it was all about trust and it was all about God.

922
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: I thought that God was in it. So I feel

923
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: like when God is in it, you feel safe. So

924
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: I felt like God was in it and it was

925
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: his gift. Well, I love it. I loved it. But

926
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: where Snoop comes to you go, you know, some I

927
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: really not. I really am not a good example or

928
00:46:54,200 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: role model because I know Snoop and and he Snoop

929
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: will smoke some weed. People understand he was the brother

930
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: is a no It's like America has caught up with Snoop,

931
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: which is really funny because he was not gonna change.

932
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: He confessed publicly all the time he did it. And

933
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: now when you're seeing that it's being being sold and

934
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: stores for medical reasons or just clear for just for

935
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: for sale with profit reason, you have CBD and all

936
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: these different uh, instead of being brought out because of

937
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: marijuana usage. It's really amazing. But when Snoop I read

938
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: that part of the book that I went that Snoop

939
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: because one thing about Snooper there is a there's a

940
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: business side to him. He is a family man who

941
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: if everybody's father's life, you see, he is a family man. Okay,

942
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: he is a family man. And so he came to

943
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: you and anybody know his whole career how he has

944
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: been a mentor or I want to stand like a

945
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: pseudo father for the community by starting the football league

946
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: and many young men he's helped to get scholarships and

947
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: in college football has been a testament to him. But

948
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: let's go to you in particular. You know that you know,

949
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: like you said, you you started dating hood dudes and

950
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: then you started dating pro athletes, you know, and youre

951
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: getting into this theme. You went from the hood dudes

952
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: you know who was out there, you know, beating you,

953
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: selling drugs. But your lifestyle was uh, you know, it

954
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: was there. You didn't have all benefits of the lifestyle,

955
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: but at least you had the lifestyle. And then you

956
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: went to the athletes, which is also a confusing world

957
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: because you know, it's a competitive world because you know,

958
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: they go from different city of the city. So let's

959
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: talk about where you came from. Okay, at fifteen, you

960
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: got kicked out of the house, then you got pregnant. Unfortunately, sadly,

961
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: you lost your first child. Then you hadow and then

962
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: you start raising them, and then all of a sudden

963
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: you got this young man was taken care of. He's

964
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: kind of like the first far the figure for Bow

965
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: Wow and uh and but he was into drugs. And

966
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: then you decided, hey, you know something, I'm gonna do

967
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: it too because I got to pay off this debt.

968
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: And we won't get any more detail. Read the book.

969
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: It's fantastic how she is showing you when you cornered

970
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: in the state of desperation, you can start crying, but

971
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: have a plan while you're crying because one thing I

972
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: took away from this book is that you if you're

973
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: in a crisis situation, especially in a violent crisis situation,

974
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: you gotta have a plan B. And that's what you

975
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 1: say a lot the reason you stayed in so long.

976
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: You never had a plan B. When you got that

977
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: plan B, you got out. I got up. Yes, yes,

978
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: that is so true. Um. I I felt like, you know,

979
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: when I got myself in a situation, of course I

980
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: didn't have a I didn't have a plan. I didn't

981
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: have a plan b RC. So in order to me

982
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: to get myself out of the situation, I have to

983
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: have a plan. So I stayed in it a lot longer,

984
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: and so I got a plan. So once I got

985
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: a plan, and you know, that's when I got myself out.

986
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: So I went from that, and I, you know what,

987
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't don't regret any of the things that I

988
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: went through because that the street life made me understand

989
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: the entertainment world, because it was kind of to me

990
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: back then, it was the same thing. It was just

991
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: one was legal and one was illegal. So that's how

992
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: I looked at I looked at the music industry back then.

993
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: You know, it was. It was. It was brutal. So

994
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: I looked at it like, okay, it's the same thing.

995
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: It was street dudes one and stuff. You know, it

996
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: was the same. So I was built for it. You know,

997
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: when they came at me, I was able to, you know,

998
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: to to stand up for myself because of what I

999
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: had already gone through. So I went from that to dating,

1000
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, you know dating, well, I went from that

1001
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: to being married and then once I got my divorce

1002
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: and that's when I started getting the poor athletes. Was

1003
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: that you know, with with dating and athletes, like there's

1004
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: good thing that you know, it comes along with that.

1005
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: There's a lot of her, Like you said, it gone

1006
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: a lot and not around. But there's a lot of

1007
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: parts to that, you know. And and and for me,

1008
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: for me, you know, I can't sit here and um

1009
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: and really say like bad things about the guys I dated.

1010
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: It was just like when I look back at everything,

1011
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: like all the relationships, you know, I kind of like

1012
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: was the type of girl who was like, you know,

1013
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: after going through a marriage and divorce, I was like,

1014
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to be married or have kids or

1015
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: have kids like I had. That was made up in

1016
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: my mind, like I don't want to be married and

1017
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to have any children. So for me,

1018
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: you know, dating me was like it was only it

1019
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: was only gonna go but so far because I'm making

1020
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: it known that I don't want to be married, I'm

1021
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: not having any kids. But you know, it was good

1022
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: for me to hear that, because that's taking control of

1023
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 1: your life to me. You know, that's telling people I

1024
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: can make a decisions, I can try to myself and

1025
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be determined by a man's being

1026
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: determined by me. And that's what I you know, I

1027
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: when I opened up when you when I introduce you

1028
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: said your your purpose is for women to discover their

1029
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: true worth. And that's what this book is about. I

1030
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: once was her. I'm talking to to to Therecha Cardwell,

1031
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: it's a as a as a memoir about her life

1032
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: before she was managing. Was kind of like it slid

1033
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: into when she started when Biba became famous a little

1034
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: Biba became famous under that name a little by Wall

1035
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: at the time. But it's really about the beginning and

1036
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: how I shaped her as a businesswoman because it was

1037
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: a tough life that she grew up on. It kicked

1038
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: out of the house of fifteen, had a baby to

1039
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: think sixteen and another child which is all by wall today,

1040
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: and raised him. And and what I loved about is

1041
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: that you didn't allow men to negatively shape your son's

1042
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: vision because when he had a child, speaking of Shad,

1043
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: you made sure that he understood his role in that

1044
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: young girl's life. Talk about that. Yes, I made sure

1045
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: that when Val had a daughter, because of how hard

1046
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: it was for me, it was important to me that

1047
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: I instilled in him that you have to be a

1048
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: great father, not a good father, but a great father

1049
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: because you have a daughter, you know, and so and

1050
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: I told him, like, it is so important because you

1051
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: will be the first man that she will ever fall

1052
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: in love with. The way you teach her and the

1053
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: way you treat her and the way you raised her,

1054
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: and the way you're in her life, that's going to

1055
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: set the standards for when she gets older, when she

1056
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: starts dating, the standards are gonna be so high because

1057
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: she's gonna be like, you know, my father treated me

1058
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: like this, my father this, my father that, And I

1059
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: think that you know, And I told him, like, I

1060
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: told him that, like it's important. I mean, I know

1061
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: I probably got on his nerves talking about it all

1062
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: the time. But I but the relationship that that he

1063
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: has with his daughter is priceless. Now if you look

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00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: at their videos and stuff, you can tell that he

1065
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: plays a big role in her life and it's all

1066
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: about love. You can tell, yeah, it's important, it's important.

1067
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: And then our relationship, like you know, like even with

1068
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: with my with bal and I like our relationship. The

1069
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: things that I talked about what we went through a

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00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: little bit. I I touched on that a little bit

1071
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: in the book, like how hard that was, you know, um,

1072
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, being a mom and being a manager and

1073
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, trying to step away to two. It did

1074
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: put a strain in our in our relationship, we did

1075
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: go through some things, you know, because we want was

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00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: best for our children. And then you know, like me,

1077
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: like my fear was I never wanted my son to

1078
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: be on drugs, Like that was a fear of rhyme,

1079
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, and being in the in the industry, like

1080
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: so much can happen and drugs are like they give

1081
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: it to him, And that was a big I feared that.

1082
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: I tried to protect him. And you did a good

1083
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: job because you in the book you said, I had

1084
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: to want I had to take off my talent manager

1085
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: hand and put back on my mama hat because sometimes

1086
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: you gotta let him know, Look, I brought you into

1087
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: this world. I have a different level of passion that dude.

1088
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: The well, he just wants that. Dude, just want to

1089
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: start our tickets over there, your mama day one, this

1090
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: day one, that day one, mama right here, they want,

1091
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: and we'll be here in the end when all this

1092
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: is going on the way, I'm still gonna be there

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00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: for you. And that's what you that's what you stayed

1094
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: in the book very clearly that yes, I I did

1095
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: accept the role and the professional role as his talent manager,

1096
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: but I never lost the mama hat, the mom and

1097
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: that was really important. Before we get out here, I

1098
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: want to I want to put on that entrepreneur hat

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00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: that that you have here. Taste Online boutique. Tell us

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00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: about that. Yes, so I have an online boutique. It's

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00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: take online. Well, it's shop taste online dot com. That

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00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: I've had that boutique forever. Like my passion is fashion

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00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: and I'm also an interior designer, so I people don't know,

1104
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: like that's where I came from. That world. Like I've

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00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: been an inserted designer for for years, so I'm back

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00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: into that full time now. They kind of brought me

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Speaker 1: out of retirement and I do a lot of entertain

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00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: at homes, like you know, a lot of athletes is

1109
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: like my number one client, So I do a lot

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00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: of those homes in my store. Is you know, I

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00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: have a passion for fashion. I love to see my

1112
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: girls feel good and look good in what they wear. Awesome. Uh.

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Speaker 1: a world of darkness. No instructions on how to be

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Speaker 1: a young woman, No instructures on how to be a

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Speaker 1: young mom, No instructures on how to be a lady,

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Speaker 1: No instructions on how to accept and understand why I'm

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00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,040
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Speaker 1: And she did it, and it's all it is, is

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on money making conversations.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for having me. I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: it and so nice to hear your voice. No, not

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Speaker 1: And we're live here outside the Perez family home, just

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Speaker 1: waiting for the and there they go, almost on time.

1141
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: This morning. Mom is coming out the front door strong

1142
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: with a double arm kid carry. Looks like dad has

1143
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh but

1144
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere.

1145
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: Oh but mom has just nailed the perfect car seat

1146
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Speaker 1: buckle for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, who

1147
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: looks to be about nine or ten, has secured herself

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Speaker 1: in the booster seat. Dad zips the bag closed and

1149
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: they're off. Ah, but looks like Mom doesn't realize her

1150
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: coffee cup is still on the roof of the car,

1151
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: and there it goes. Oh, that's a shame. That mug

1152
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: was a fam favorite. Don't sweat the small stuff, just

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00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: nailed the big stuff, like making sure your kids are

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Speaker 1: Welcome out in my Shoes. My guess is one of

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Speaker 1: the stars of the Own Network series green Leaf. To

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00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: show a premiere on June twenty three on Own. He's

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00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: one of my favorite Hollywood's actors because he can swing

1169
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: between comedy, sci fi, Bossover, dramatic, Road Broadway. He has

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00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: an incredible acting range. Like I said, Broadway, Something About

1171
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: Mary one of my all time funny movies. He appeared

1172
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: in Pitch Black, Sci Fi, barber Shop, Teenade, Mutant, Ninja, Turtles. Plus.

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Speaker 1: He has won three Emmy's performing Forceable Work, Please Work.

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Speaker 1: In The money Making Conversation discussed the final season of Greenleaf,

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01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: the actor and singer that you did a lot of

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01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: you guys don't know about. He plays Bishop James Greenleaf.

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01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: Please welcome. Keith David. How are you doing, sir? I'm

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Speaker 1: well man, how are you doing? It's really good, really good? Uh.

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Speaker 1: Four seasons down, a fifth season ago. We know about television,

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01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: sometimes you can get green leading and don't even last

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01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: beyond the burning of the candle. Uh, going into the

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01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: five season. Talk about that. Talk about the journey of

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01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: this series so far before we get into details. From

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01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: a personal perspective, has been an incredible journey for me

1185
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: because um years in my life, like I used to

1186
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: fantasize about being a preacher. I used to want to

1187
01:00:54,440 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: be a preacher, and uh uh I didn't. I didn't

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01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: want to be a kind of Jack leg So I

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01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: decided to pursue other areas of my life, you know,

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01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: in the life of an artist, and I believe that

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01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: they're both are calling. So now you know, I feel

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: that acting is my ministry. Uh. But when Greenley's came along,

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01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: it was like dream being fulfilled. I mean, it was

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01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: truly a blessing. If you don't you know, if if

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01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: you don't believe in God, well, uh, that's that's your business.

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01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: But God loved you anyway, and that was I believe

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Speaker 1: in God, blessing. I believe in God, So keep talking,

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01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: keep talking. Well, I mean that was that was that

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Speaker 1: was living proof that you know that that God is

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Speaker 1: always looking out for me, and take better care of

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01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: me in that care and take it myself. Absolutely, I

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Speaker 1: believe in that, and I believe that focus get you there,

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01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: and the blessings are based on your hard work, and

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01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: your career is showing a body of work that is

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01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: tied to you know. The thing I like about your

1206
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Speaker 1: career is that, you know, I'll always tell people wherever

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Speaker 1: the opportunity is pointed, give it a hundred percent and

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01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: go forward, you know, voice over work, going forward, singing

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01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: Broadway comedy, drama. That's a really versatile plate of as

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Speaker 1: they say, food that you're dining on there, sir, talk

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Speaker 1: to us about being able to have that range and

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01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: that ability and and and and that that blessing right there,

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01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: be able to do all these different things. Because some

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Speaker 1: people just good at comedies, some people just good at

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Speaker 1: dramatic roles. But you've being able to you're able to

1216
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Speaker 1: swing back and forth. Talk to us about that. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I'm lucky to be able to do that.

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01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: But that's what I trained for. That's what I spent

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01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: my life training for. You know, I spent I spent

1220
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: ten years of my life in class training, right, you know,

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01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: from from high school and college and uh and and

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Speaker 1: you know, the the greatest I think, and I get

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01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: to do it, yes, sir, which that which I prepared

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Speaker 1: myself to do. You know, isn't that great? I mean

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01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: it is great. I mean that's I mean, that's the

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Speaker 1: blessing beyond my wildest imagination. And I appreciate that. Now,

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01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about Greenleaf. Okay, last season, let me

1228
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: just talk about your character a little bit because the

1229
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: last season, you know, Grace character became a dominant character,

1230
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: Lady Maide, and we saw what Charity was doing and

1231
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: underminded the family, and Carissa character kind of undermined the

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01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: relationship she had with Jacob. The men, the men character

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01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: I felt were kind of like like like, well pushed

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Speaker 1: a little bit to the back of the female and

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01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: none negative back when I say that, none negative because

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01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: you got the storylines you have to develop you. Then

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01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: I see this trailer for the final season and you

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Speaker 1: you you preaching through the whole thing. You're praying through

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. Bishop, Are you trying to send us

1240
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: a message? Is your voice coming to the fore front

1241
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: of the series with prayer and leadership for the fifth season?

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01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: Talk to me, well, you know, uh, the Family journey

1243
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: has always been about, you know, been about re establishing

1244
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: ourselves in the church and uh, Grace coming, Grace coming

1245
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: back home to uh uh just rectify what what what

1246
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: had gone on previously in the family and so and

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01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: I think that when we when we started this series,

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01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: Bishop was in a place where he was ready to

1249
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: atone for whatever he had you know past. Uh, discrepences,

1250
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: you know what you know, and and and and faced

1251
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: them head on. Of course, Now when you when you

1252
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: you say you're ready for that, when the moment comes,

1253
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: you say, oh, God doesn't have to be right now,

1254
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: you know. So he's gone through all of that. But

1255
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: you know in season five, you know, uh, we see

1256
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, you know, everything has a ripple effect, it

1257
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: really does. Yeah, and so and so he's gonna he's

1258
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: gonna deal with that and so. Um that's what season

1259
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: five is about. This that final referee. Come on, now,

1260
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: come on, now, what what you know what it's like,

1261
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: you know when you have to you know, it's you know,

1262
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's like, uh let me let me let

1263
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Speaker 1: me aagine this, Keith, about about your character, about the show. Okay,

1264
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: because of the fact that the finale set up a

1265
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of storylines that finale I'm talking

1266
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: about season four for nowe. You know Charity, she you

1267
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: thought you could convince her to vote the right way.

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01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: She did, Okay, that I'm sure shocked your character. You

1269
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: thought she would see the right way. Then she got

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Speaker 1: kicked to the curb by Phil. When Bob Whitmore, the

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: owner of H and H, told her, if you want

1272
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: to stay some stay have power in this whole situation

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01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: with this church, you gotta marry my daughter who happens

1274
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: to be white. If you're not following the series. So

1275
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: those are just a small level of dynamics when you

1276
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: when you get this script, and these scripts have to

1277
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: be juicy at the table reading, these scripts have to

1278
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 1: be juicy. When you shot him. You can just see

1279
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: all this stuff playing itself out. And then but but

1280
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: Charity for the fifth season, she's undermined the family. How

1281
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: do you bring her back into the family without destroying

1282
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: the storyline that we have not seen yet for the

1283
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: fifth season? You know, you you you raise your kids

1284
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: should be good people, right and you and you try

1285
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: to convince him to to do the next rightst thing,

1286
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: and then you then you have to let go and

1287
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: let God handle it the way he's going to handle it.

1288
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: And I think that also that's also one of the

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01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: one of the big lessons that the bishop learns is

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Speaker 1: you know, in spite of your intentions, it's gonna go

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01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: way God intends it to go. And and we have

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01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: and we just have to pray for the grace to

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01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: deal with that because it may not be. It may

1294
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: not be exactly the way you wanted it, no matter

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01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: what your intentions are. You know, you know, you know

1296
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: deal with that. You know you got that great voice there, Keith.

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01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: You know you got that that profound voice as they say,

1298
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: you know when I when I do TV shows, uh Injoy,

1299
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: they called the voice of God. It's so eloquent, it's

1300
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: so it's so strong. Come on, let's go and tell

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01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: the truth about this. And so, like I said, you

1302
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: have that natural gift to be to be able to

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01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: resonate like a minister. And so so you're the Bishop.

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01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: James Greenley f on the series The premieres Greenley for

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01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: series June twenty. Premiers June three on the Own Network.

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01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: Now in the trailer, Now in the trailer, I see

1307
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: your kissing lady. May uh huh Okay, Now, I know

1308
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: you've been wanting to huh. Well, you know, but job,

1309
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: you'll kind of had a little discard over the years,

1310
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: and these these are these final seasons here, come on, now,

1311
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: come on, like I'm not if you, if you you

1312
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: don't have to be with somebody for five years to

1313
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: have a little discord attle so you can believe after

1314
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: fort or five years there are they're gonna be some

1315
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: challenges that arrived, sir, But you know, but you know

1316
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: with you know, uh, with the belief and the God

1317
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: of your under you know, God will find a way

1318
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: absolutely if it's meant and if it's meant to be,

1319
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: so you so you know that's where we are. Okay,

1320
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: So so okay, now we got Charity. You gotta bring

1321
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: her back in the fold. I catch you kissing Lady

1322
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: May in the trailer, which is a good thing. Which

1323
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: is a good thing. Now are y'all y'all all praying

1324
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: holding hands? The entire family. Jacob was in there, Zora, Sophia,

1325
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: Carissa and so so everybody's living at this house, this

1326
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: giant house is a beautiful house as a lake on

1327
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: the property. And Carrissa has issues because she's tired of

1328
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: living in your mama's house, your daddy's house. So so

1329
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: as as the man of the house, the bishop, how

1330
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: does that play out as far as far as the

1331
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: characterization of what you're trying to do and what you're

1332
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: trying to deliver on this show as the bishop, not

1333
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: only at the church what you've lost, but holding onto

1334
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: the house that you may leave lose basos and information

1335
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: that Charissa got from Fernando. Can you talk to me

1336
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: about that. I cannot talk to you about that. Come on,

1337
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on, come I can't. I

1338
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: can tell you, um that that that will that will

1339
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: play out, that will play out, And I think you're

1340
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: going to be, um, you know, wonderfully surprised because the

1341
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: story is so exciting and and but you know, the

1342
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: thing that I think is so wonderful about it is,

1343
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, God works and so so

1344
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: many mysterious ways. We don't know what the ways of

1345
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: God are and what the lessons are to be looking

1346
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: and that's what makes that's what makes I think the uh,

1347
01:10:54,680 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: the series so compelling, is that, uh, in the midst

1348
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: of this, you know, this storytelling is so u this

1349
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 1: there's such a relationship with real life and what happens

1350
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: in life, because in life it doesn't always turn out

1351
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: to be as hunky dorry as you like it now,

1352
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: you know, and and and we have to deal with that.

1353
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: And that happens that happens in ministers families, that happens

1354
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: in bishops families, that happens in church families, that happens

1355
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: in families that never go to church. It just happens

1356
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: because it's life. You know, it's really interesting. You will see,

1357
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: you will see a wonderful way of life unfolding in

1358
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: this season. Oh believe me. Last season was you know

1359
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: when Grace was trying to reconnect with a J. Now,

1360
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: you didn't tell M. S. Rashan, look at the story,

1361
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: look at your story. Look tell them all my fans.

1362
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: You're not gonna give us any extra any little in

1363
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: roads into what may be happening in season five. Watched

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: the episode now when at the end of the last

1365
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: season that Grace was at Fate's grave site and this

1366
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: gentleman who looked like a J but he wasn't a

1367
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: J walked up to her at the grave site and

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01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: he walked away. Any inkling of what that character was.

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01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: Was he an angel? What was he? Well, you know

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01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: I have to leave that up to you because you know,

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01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 1: um in life again, I love the way our imitates

1372
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: life because there there are many times when you have

1373
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: an experience like that. You know, that reminded me of well,

1374
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: he looked like he could have been so and so

1375
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: son and have maybe maybe it was maybe it wasn't right.

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01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: You know. I mean, you know sometimes when we when

1377
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: we have dreams and they speak to us, and I

1378
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: mean I've had dreams that were so real that, uh,

1379
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: if you would have asked me today did it really happen?

1380
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,799
Speaker 1: I would not have good conscious be able to swear

1381
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: that it didn't. Mm hmm I agree. So so, you know,

1382
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way I see that moment is

1383
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: one of It's one of those sort of god shot

1384
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: moments where you don't you know, was that him? Was

1385
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: that not him? Whatever it was, it was, it was

1386
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: it was a momentary miracle. It was it was if

1387
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 1: that she needed she needs, she needed some Godly reassurance

1388
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: of some kind, and she got it. Oh that that

1389
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: And it was well written because her she was questioning

1390
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: her faith, looking down at the great side of faith,

1391
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: and then this character came up to out of mystery

1392
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: and spoke to her. And I want to don't want

1393
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: to tell everybody everything, because everybody should if you hadn't

1394
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: watched this here and go watch one to three four

1395
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: and get caught up before you start June and watching

1396
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: season five. The thing about it is that I just

1397
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: want your opinion, sir, because I got you on the

1398
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: show give me your thoughts on each one of these

1399
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: people who are in your life. They play characters. But

1400
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about feel what who works under

1401
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 1: barb with Moore or h Who's I mean? I mean,

1402
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, here's the guy, here's here's the here's the

1403
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: here's the guy who I believe starts out with some

1404
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: kind of some kind of faith. But you see, the

1405
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: devil is a click and and and puts all kinds

1406
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: of temptations in front of you. Sometimes it's a beautiful woman.

1407
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: Sometimes it comes in the form of money. Sometimes it

1408
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: comes in the form of power, sometimes it sometimes it

1409
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: comes in the form of some combination of all of those,

1410
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: uh but at all. But but you know, the devil

1411
01:14:55,800 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: can also uh disguise himself in ambition, and you know,

1412
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: and the ego is a monster because the ego could

1413
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: fool you to thinking that it is you, and it

1414
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 1: will it will, you know, start motivating you in ways

1415
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: that you think is pure, but it's really couched behind

1416
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:23,839
Speaker 1: some uh it going needs that's that's stoked by greed

1417
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: uh and and the worst parts of ambition that becomes

1418
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: selfish and you become selfishly driven so that you know,

1419
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: uh you lose your way, said, they can't see the

1420
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: you can't see the forest for the trees. So started up.

1421
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: I think he started out, you know, because he wanted

1422
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: to have his own church. He got an opportunity, You

1423
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: got an opportunity to work with this man who you know,

1424
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: promised him big things, one of which that he wouldn't

1425
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,480
Speaker 1: yes one day he would have his own church. So Okay,

1426
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 1: if this sacrifice I have to make is being a

1427
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: ghost writer, I mean that may not be the biggest

1428
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: sin in the world. Okay, fine, uh, but then it

1429
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: leads you to do other things. But when it becomes

1430
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, I mean the thing about phil when it

1431
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: comes down to taking down your own and that is

1432
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: that is that is both you know, uh, familiarly and spiritually. Uh.

1433
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: Then you know, then you have you know, you have

1434
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: to question those motives, and you know which the bishop

1435
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 1: does from the beginning. Bishop questions his motives from the

1436
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: from the beginnings. You know, sees teas and knows who sees,

1437
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: and knows who he is because he knows who Bob

1438
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 1: who is Let's go right there? Who is Bob? Is

1439
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: he the devil? Well? I mean again, the devil has

1440
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: many forms which many names, many many disguises, and you

1441
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: know I mean what I mean, I can't call out

1442
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: every ambitious preacher uh in the world. But you know

1443
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: sometimes when they when they ambition uh overrides your true

1444
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:20,839
Speaker 1: sense of spirituality. Then that if there's something to be questioned,

1445
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 1: because you know, we have to watch out for false gods,

1446
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: and money is one of them. Actually we live, we

1447
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: live in a society. Well, money isn't necessary. I mean,

1448
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, even in biblical times, you know, uh, the

1449
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: money wasn't the same as it as it is now.

1450
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:44,799
Speaker 1: But you know, people, you know, people got got lost.

1451
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: You know, you know how many camels do you have?

1452
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: How much bread do you have? You know, they were

1453
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: all kind they were all kinds of ways to disguise

1454
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: that that particular evil of greed. And that's and that

1455
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: you know, that seems to be the center storyline. Greed.

1456
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: Greed happens in this in the story, especially Bob, you

1457
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 1: know that's for lad feel down this path twenty years

1458
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: and like you saying, ghost writing and never getting credit

1459
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: and then misleading, I don't I don't know, do you

1460
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 1: do you did? I read this role? I felt that

1461
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: Phil really did care for charity, but then when it

1462
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: pushed came to a shop and denying his dreams tied

1463
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: to greed, he denounced that relationship to follow the path

1464
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: of greed? Am I wrongest saying that I don't. I

1465
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 1: don't think so that's you know, I mean, you know

1466
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:41,839
Speaker 1: and and and you don't have to also understand that whatever,

1467
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: whatever your interpretation is when we're telling stories in a

1468
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: parable in a powable situation, whatever it is that you

1469
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: need to learn, that's your lesson. Now you watch it again,

1470
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: you may get a different lesson. True, true, but that's

1471
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: the that's the lesson you got watching it the first time. So,

1472
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't tell you that that's not true

1473
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: or that's not a part of uh stop what's to

1474
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 1: be learned here? That is one of That is certainly

1475
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: one of the least. Now Jacob, Jacob has not lived

1476
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 1: a good life. He's had something that we all have had,

1477
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: but we stumped out foot and made mistakes. And both

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Speaker 1: as a single man, as a married man and as

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01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: a father. What are your thoughts about his as a

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01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: relationship with you in the direction he's grown as a

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01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: character as a man on this show living under your

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01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: house under your roof again, you know what I mean?

1483
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: And there you know, I can't at this very second

1484
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: quote to you who in the Bible Jacob reminds me.

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01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: But you know, and here is here is a man.

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01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: You know, he's like like like I think maybe maybe

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01:19:54,360 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: Joseph's brother brothers. Um, here's a Here's a man who's

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01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: lived under the shadow of his father his whole life.

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01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 1: He had you know, he's had everything. He's ever you know,

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01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: everything has been given to him. Uh. And and he's

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01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: but his his mother has also been very protective. You know.

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01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: It's yeah, in spite of what his father might have,

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01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: you know, his father has always wanted them to be

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01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,799
Speaker 1: you know, go out and uh find his own self.

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01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember, I think it's in season two

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01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: or three. I said to him, I said, look at

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01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: me and tell me. Get out of my face, old man,

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01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: let me do my thing. But you won't even do that, right,

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01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: you won't even specify in your way. I can't give

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01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: this to you. I can't give you nothing. You have

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01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: to earn us. And that's a lesson that a man's

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01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 1: got a life. Absolutely absolutely it is. Really when I

1503
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: when I look at your the journey of this show,

1504
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: and we're talking to Keith David, one of the stars

1505
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: of Green Lift. The series premiers June twenty three on

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01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: the Own network. He plays the bishop on the series.

1507
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: Um it really I would just telling you this, uh,

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01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: And I've enjoyed this run of the first four seasons.

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01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the final season because it allows

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01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: me to stay calm. It allows me, as you can see,

1511
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: like you said, Raean, you might look at it on

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01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: one episode, didn't look at it two weeks later and

1513
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: see something or be mostly driven by something else. And

1514
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: that really is what this series is about. It allows

1515
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 1: you choices. It allows you to be able to understand

1516
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: the values that you have for yourself, whether whether you

1517
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: believe or you don't believe. But if you believe, these

1518
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: are the options that you have to make decisions based on.

1519
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: It has to be just an amazing Like you said

1520
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: early on when you started this interview with me, you

1521
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: always wanted to be a minister, and this blessing came

1522
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 1: about where for five seasons you could play a bishop

1523
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: on a on a role that also look inside yourself

1524
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: and feel compelled that you're you're changing people's lives. Even

1525
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: though it's a role you still are changing people's lives.

1526
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 1: Do you believe that? Well, I mean, you know, praise God,

1527
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: there is that potential and uh and and and I

1528
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: have absolutely loved that opportunity to be able to tell

1529
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: those kinds of stories. I mean, that's I mean, that's

1530
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: a that's what we do. You know. You know, I'm

1531
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: an actor, I'm an artist, and and we and we

1532
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: we tell stories in order to inform our lives that

1533
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: there are there is another way of doing things. You

1534
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: know that. You know, it's not that there's not just

1535
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: one way to get through any given situation, you know.

1536
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, I believe that even now

1537
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: in this COVID situation, God does not put us in

1538
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: situations that he doesn't provide a way out of at

1539
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: and I really have to be wait uh to what

1540
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: those possibilities are before we close out. I just I

1541
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 1: know when you've got other projects other than green Leaf

1542
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 1: premier in June twenty three, if you if you want

1543
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: to shout him out, I got a project with Alison

1544
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,560
Speaker 1: Weaves coming up, a project on Amazon. You want to

1545
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: expound on those a little bit before we wrap up here,

1546
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 1: Mrs David, I am I'm working right now. I'm working

1547
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,480
Speaker 1: on the show based on the life of Joe Williams

1548
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: and uh and uh. My great hope is that it

1549
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: will be uh, you know, the the the pandemic will

1550
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: um allow us to move into theaters and into and

1551
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: you'll get to that. You will get to see it

1552
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: when it's time. Absolutely, absolutely, but be on be on

1553
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: the lookout, absolutely, Joe with absolutely, my friend, Chief David,

1554
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations. I really

1555
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: appreciate it that you allowed me to talk to you,

1556
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 1: you know, and and and I know you can't give

1557
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: me too much of Steven five, but you gave me

1558
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: enough leading up to season five to let me know

1559
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: that I need to be watching season five. I want

1560
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 1: to thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations, sir,

1561
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 1: Thank you. Man. Look to your children's eyes to see

1562
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 1: the true magic of a forest. It's a storybook world

1563
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 1: for them. You look and see a tree. They see

1564
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: the wrinkled face of a wizard with arms outstretched to

1565
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 1: the sky. They see treasuring pebbles, they see a windy

1566
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: path that could lead to adventure, and they see you.

1567
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: They're fearless guide. Is this fascinating world? Find a forest

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Speaker 1: org brought to you by the United States Forest Service

1570
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Speaker 1: and the AD Council. Look to your children's eyes to

1571
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,480
Speaker 1: see the true magic of a forest. It's a storybook

1572
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 1: world for them. You look and see a tree. They

1573
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: see the wrinkled face of a wizard with arms outstretched

1574
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: to the sky. They see treasuring pebbles. They see a

1575
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 1: windy path that could lead to adventure, and they see you.

1576
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: They're fearless. Guide. Is this fascinating world? Find a forest

1577
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: near you and start exploring and discover the forest dot

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Speaker 1: org brought to you by the United States Forest Service

1579
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: and the AD Council. What grows in the forest trees?

1580
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 1: Sure you know what else grows in the forest. Our imagination,

1581
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 1: our sense of wonder, and our family bonds grow too,

1582
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: because when we disconnect from this and connect with this,

1583
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: we reconnect with each other. The forest is closer than

1584
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: you think. Find a forest near you and start exploring.

1585
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 1: I Discover the Forest dot org brought to you by

1586
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 1: the United States Forest Service and the AD Council. Our

1587
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,919
Speaker 1: next guest there on the phone are the co founders

1588
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: are moms as entrepreneurs mission to remove the stigma that

1589
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: moms are unwilling to risk are soon the pressures are

1590
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 1: being a mom and an entrepreneur. Through their struggles of

1591
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: both motherhood and entrepreneurship, they knew exactly what was needed

1592
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: to have service a community that most didn't think of mothers.

1593
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 1: Since seventeen, they have launched over a hundred and ten

1594
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 1: mom owned businesses. Please walk on to Money Making Conversation.

1595
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: Dr Tamira Lucas and Miss Jasmine Sam's thank you for

1596
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 1: having us. We are well you know, you know, I'm

1597
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: a guy, I really uh around a lot to shows

1598
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,799
Speaker 1: about entrepreneurship and I know that you know, women are

1599
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 1: exploding in entrepreneurship, especially African American women are exploding there.

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01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: I like to get a response from each one of

1601
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: you about why do you think that is so? Starting

1602
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: with you Dr Lucas, So, women are exploding in entrepreneurship

1603
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: because we build businesses based off of necessasi from out

1604
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: um that we need every single day. And know that

1605
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: these things like very cliche is like, well everybody builds

1606
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: a business also necessity, but women are those as you

1607
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: take go back to our history, um, you know we

1608
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: were creating solutions to problems within our household because women

1609
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: were the ones that were, you know, mainly taking care

1610
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: of the households by the male work. And those things

1611
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 1: kind of exploded from, hey, this is a necessity that

1612
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: I need for my family and my children. UM. And

1613
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: we kind of think a little bit differently. We're always

1614
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: thinking strategically, we're always thinking innovatively because we meet these

1615
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 1: things right now, UM, and right now it is the

1616
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: year I know here in Maryland. We're located in Maryland,

1617
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: and the governor has um said that of mere the women, UM,

1618
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: and we are really stepping up to the plate to

1619
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: grow businesses. But gentlemen and I want to make sure

1620
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: that we're not just starting businesses, but we're growing and

1621
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: scaling those businesses so that we can be um, the

1622
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: small time millions of those individuals, or those women and

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01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: moms can be the next multipmillion dollars businesses that our country. Um.

1624
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: Are birthdays cool? And the reason you think differently, That's

1625
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: why I wanted UH seems to have a response because

1626
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, I always tell people you're successful by thinking differently,

1627
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: but you're even greater, which is greater heights of success

1628
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: when you can operate as a team, and that's what

1629
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: you're doing now. MS sim's your response on why women,

1630
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: especially African American women are just exploding in the entrepreneurship fields.

1631
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: So not only do we see needs that are immediate,

1632
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: but we've always warned so many hats and our families

1633
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 1: and in our communities, and so we have so many

1634
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:48,520
Speaker 1: talents and most of those coming the form of hobbies

1635
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: or you know things we do offer too ples oude

1636
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: our families and the people around that. And so people

1637
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: like Tenere and Uh we see that and our neighborhood

1638
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 1: and we see it was time to take their hobbies

1639
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: and turn it into money making activities for them in

1640
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 1: their communities. So and then coupled with more of our

1641
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: women are going to school to get the education that

1642
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: can help them actually pursue those goals. And then we

1643
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: have more resources that we can go online and look

1644
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: at the information we need, or we have differ programs, webinars,

1645
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 1: seminars that we can go to to get the information

1646
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: we need to actually turn these hobbies into businesses. So

1647
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: it allowing us to cataport ourselves beyond where we were

1648
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: able to go before. So Mirror said and then all together, well,

1649
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't know the thing about it. You know, I'm

1650
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: a curious guy. You know, I'm going through Black enterprise.

1651
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: I come across this nice article about the two of you,

1652
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 1: and I have six sisters. None of them have out

1653
01:29:56,439 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: ball uh followed in the entrepreneurial lane that you who

1654
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: are striving for women to pursue But there, you know,

1655
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 1: but they're they're my sisters. You know, they're African Americans.

1656
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: And when I see women stepping beyond the norm the

1657
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 1: norm is when I say that not to stay at

1658
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 1: home mom. The normals not just a forty hour week

1659
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: job that may include over time, but saying hey, I

1660
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,719
Speaker 1: trust my natural instinct, I have a plan of action.

1661
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 1: I can go out there. I can get Alan. I

1662
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: won't get me Alan. I'm gonna figure out a way

1663
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 1: to pursue my dreams and aspirations and build this brand.

1664
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: That's a lot of work. Why and when I read it,

1665
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 1: since seen YouTube have been responsible for over fifty six

1666
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 1: mom owned businesses. Lunch, talk to me about that. That's

1667
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 1: a that's a that's that's a a champion right there.

1668
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 1: That's a champion talking about a champion of the community, ladies.

1669
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 1: Well we need to st a little bit because it's

1670
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 1: been over about Okay, all I getting stuff from my buffer,

1671
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 1: people say me stuff, I pull it out, I put

1672
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 1: it on here. Okay. So what you're not gonna do, jas,

1673
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: what you don't go to do is come on my show.

1674
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm just selling bad information. Now if

1675
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 1: you say it's over a hundred, you say it earlier,

1676
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: he say the first time, and beat your beat your

1677
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: and you gonna go. I gotta stop this brother. His

1678
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 1: brother spread bad news about you know us, you worked

1679
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: too hard to build us, you know. So how many

1680
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 1: of that number right there? So I can repromote that

1681
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: what's that number? Is not fifty six? What is it?

1682
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 1: And one more row? Okay? See hours is remarkable by yourself.

1683
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: But we've been able to take it even from almost

1684
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:48,440
Speaker 1: double it because we were able to running in academy.

1685
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: We thought it was one. Let me fix this, says

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Speaker 1: they have launched over a hundred and ten mom owned businesses.

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01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: Please walk into money making conversation, dr to Mirror Lucas

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01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 1: and its jazz scens. See that's how we're doing the

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01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 1: money making conversations. That's that's how we're doing on money,

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01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: make conversations. We're in the business of being accurate, being right,

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01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: you know. So when this, when this ads on podcasts

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01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: and all my platforms, we're gonna promote exactly the success

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01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: story that you guys are putting out there. Now. The

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01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 1: interesting thing about see all I do is go on

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01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,560
Speaker 1: your I go on your website. I pulled information that

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01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 1: says Dr Lucas your trailblazer among professionals and a powerful

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01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: voce for moms teaching business balance and babies. Co found

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01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 1: up the Cube Coworker, Maryland's first and only coworking space

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01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:45,600
Speaker 1: that provides babysitting services. Then this SAMs Salon, consultant industry

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01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:49,440
Speaker 1: expert with over twelve years of beauty and hospitality experience.

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01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 1: Am I is that correct? Just want to make sure

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01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 1: that I can handle one of you guys on the

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01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 1: tool y'all. We're gonna get this straight moving forward. So

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01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: let's talk about this as a co found of the

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01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: Cube co work. Because the thing about is going on

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01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 1: with the pandemic. You know, the you know states have

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01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 1: been shut down, they're starting to reopen and guess what,

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01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,719
Speaker 1: some people are gonna go back to reopen to no jobs.

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01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 1: And then and then some people are being called back

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01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: to work and childcare centers are not even open or

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01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: they're starting to reopen. So how can you go back

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01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: to work and you don't have no place to deliver

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01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 1: your child to be taken care of? Why you're working?

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01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: So when you talk about the que co work, tell

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01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: me how it's being effective now effective now affected now

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01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 1: with the pandemic, and how does it actually work? So

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01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: we created the que co workus there myself as a

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01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 1: space jasmine and our train these moms. We will come

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01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 1: to contact with other mom entrepreneurs that started business but

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01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 1: they could they were struggling with down n seeing their

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01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,719
Speaker 1: families and and their kids. And coworking is a cool

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01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 1: um industry to be in. It's a cool um idea,

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01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: innovative ideas working in a space with complete strangers, but

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01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 1: being able to do network and grow which we all

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01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 1: need to grow out businesses. But when you add, when

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01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 1: you think about childcare costs, you can buy a Toyota

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01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 1: at least the Toyota Corolla every single year for the

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01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: amount that you'll pay in childcare fees. Right, So we

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01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 1: had to think about, well, how are these moms that

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01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 1: are living a little the poverty levels, starting businesses gonna

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01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: be able to afford childcare. And I created the coworking

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01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: space that has babysitting services inside of it so that

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01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 1: one moms or dad because we have both parents, UM

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01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: can focus on their work. But not only can they

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01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: focus on their work, but they can also not have

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01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 1: the burden of high childcare costs because it's how our

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01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: fee structure. Now, before we were fully UM, we had

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01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: our membership with pretty much full because of the baby

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01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 1: Sydney s that UM that it was a pretty quickly. However,

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01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: UM there you know, there were still a lot of

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01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: businesses that were working inside of their traditional office space. Well,

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01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 1: places like Facebook and Twitter. These companies are now giving

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01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: an option for for parents, I mean for their workers

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01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 1: to work from home. And I feel that this will

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01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,480
Speaker 1: be the trend in the in the industry of UM

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01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 1: those type of companies or companies periods saying hey, you

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01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 1: can work from home, and now that childcare part is

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01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: going to be UM critical. So working in a in

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01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 1: a space where you can come in and get four

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01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 1: hours of uninterrupted or three hours of uninterrupted work done

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01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 1: and then you can like do whatever else you need

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01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 1: to do for the rest of the day is going

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01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 1: to be kind of ideal. So right now, although we're

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01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: not open and physically, we created a model that will

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01:35:55,439 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 1: help us the same over time, um hopefully, but we

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01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: can anticipate that we're going to have a large number

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01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 1: of people knocking bold, parents knocking at outdoor to utilize

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01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 1: our services because we know that business is not going

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01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 1: to be as usual. Want everything we finally reopen. Absolutely

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01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:18,799
Speaker 1: this pandemic has shown, like Twitter made an announcement that hey,

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01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 1: stay at home, work at work remote which is going

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01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: to have our effect on real estate offers real estate

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01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 1: in the future, because that's the one industry that has

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01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty. As we spoke about moms as

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01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs um an area of growth that's exploding out there

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01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: in the entrepreneur world. That's one of the reasons why

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01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm motivated to start one of the reason I was

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01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 1: motivated to start Money Making Conversation just to provide information,

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01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 1: free information and bring what I feel in individuals like

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01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 1: uh dr Lucas and ms Sam's on the show just

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01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 1: to share their stories and hopefully they can you can

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01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: you can get some nuggets of information on how they're

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01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 1: doing and how they're applying their the lanes. Because when

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01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: you when you're an entrepreneur, there are no consistent days

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01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 1: of saying it's gonna be done this way. Every day

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01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 1: it changes every day. You have to be prepared for

1777
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,799
Speaker 1: that change and you cannot be frustrated by that change.

1778
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: What you can do is plan for change. And as

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01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: you plan for change, then you can overcome the obstacles

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01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 1: that may frustrate you. Um On the focus on Miss

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01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 1: Jasmine sam uh I read earlier sal Salon consultant industry

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01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: expert in the beauty arena, whether twelve years of experience

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01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 1: and the beauty and the hospitality experience. We know what's ending.

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01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 1: What's happened in this country or with the pandemic, especially

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01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:40,520
Speaker 1: in the African American community where we are overtly affected

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01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 1: by the COVID nineteen virus. How is the in the

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Speaker 1: Maryland area, how's it being happened? And people coming to

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01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 1: you advice and what advice are you giving them? Um

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01:37:54,760 --> 01:38:00,719
Speaker 1: my advice? You know everyone so ready to either reopen

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01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: or just to go through their hair and nails done,

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01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 1: and you know they are ways to take kids of

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01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: those things. Yourself at home and the movie times. The

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01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 1: health of your head and the health of your skin.

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01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: The health of your nails is most important, but also

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01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: the health of you as an individual, because if you

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01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 1: are dead, you cannot get your hand and nails run

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01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 1: again unless you buy more a ticitions. So stay in

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01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: the mouth. Follow your state regulations or your county regulations,

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01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: and follow your state board of Cosmtology or your barber's board.

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01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Follow the regulations that place here. So you're saying that,

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01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:44,640
Speaker 1: don't put beauty ahead of safety. No, don't do that.

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01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,679
Speaker 1: People like I said, I talked to my my younger

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01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: brother here. He showed me photos. He showed me a

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01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 1: video showing he's had to put shower curtains, clear shower

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01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 1: couraging between each stall in his Barbara salon. He has

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01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 1: removed all the chairs out of his barber salon and

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01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: everything's about plumbing. Only he's had to go out and

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01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 1: by he's bought goar goals, he's bought mad. Of course,

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01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 1: he has hand sanitizers, he his lights hole spray And

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01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 1: the problem with that is that that was not part

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01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: of his budget. That has suddenly become part of his budget.

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01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 1: And so when you have uh in this pandemic world

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01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,879
Speaker 1: that we're living in and you have women or moms

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01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: trying to break into the entrepreneurial space. It's a different

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01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: model now, correct, right it is. You know when what

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01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 1: we got noticed that the city and the state was

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01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: starting to shut down, we had to begin to get creative.

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01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 1: So in our business, I have a hands on an

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01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 1: emails on we begin to sell off the inventory that

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01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: we hadn't started to create at home kit to sell

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01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 1: to our clients. So that was one way to continue

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01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:03,799
Speaker 1: ce revenue generation right right right so, and and also

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01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 1: we are membership Beast, so that was another way to

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01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: make sure that when things are slow or things like

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01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 1: this happened, we have a way to kind of maintain

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01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: our brand and keep ourselves in the full front either

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01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:19,639
Speaker 1: when you know we may not be able to operate,

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01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 1: then to keep us alive during this time as well,

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01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 1: right right so, as as as zoom as the as,

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01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:30,679
Speaker 1: the as the social media world be important during this time,

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01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 1: and how do you use the social media to promote

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01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 1: your brand? You know, mom as entrepreneurs and Dr Lucas

1833
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: could be you it's Jazz and Spill, it could be

1834
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 1: responding or both of you guys can respond because my

1835
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: whole thing is that I know this is a joint

1836
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: effort to you know, guys use y'all different ways of thinking,

1837
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: like you stated earlier, which makes this, uh, this partnership work,

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01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 1: and uh I go with you first, Dr Lucas, so

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01:40:56,360 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 1: Jasmine and I have definitely gotten very creative collectively and

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01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 1: individually for our businesses and ensuring that all of our

1841
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 1: brands that we have, whether it's Mom's Entrepreneurs or our

1842
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: personal brands are a continues to be alive. But we

1843
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 1: really utilize those platforms to really tell the story but

1844
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: also share the resources and the and the things that

1845
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 1: we knew that most entrepreneurs needed at this time. So

1846
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: within a week of UM COVID nineteen hitting M Desmond,

1847
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 1: were immediately sharing UM advice resources and anything anything that

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01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 1: we that we were able to access or even have

1849
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:42,600
Speaker 1: a knowledge of. We was immediately using UM those platforms

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01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 1: to share that information. So I know, I strongly I

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01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: had so many beauty experts. As a business consultant, I

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01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 1: worked with all types of entrepreneurs and I had a

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01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 1: lot of UM beauty and beauty entrepreneurs in the beauty industry,

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01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 1: a lot of Mom entrepreneurs in the beauty industry preach

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01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 1: old and say well what am I supposed to do?

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01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: And quickly, you know, giving them advice on how to

1857
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,679
Speaker 1: pivot and their business so that they can to say

1858
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 1: because a lot of times, well the resources that were

1859
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: the funding the release programs that originally went out for

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01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 1: COVID nineteens did not support those type of entrepreneurs. They

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01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: didn't support the duty industry entrepreneurs that may not be

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01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 1: taking a pay checks or have contractors and do not

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01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 1: have employees. So giving them education and support on how

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01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: to pivot their business so that they're still generating some

1865
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 1: type of income UM was extremely important. And also what

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01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 1: did we have available UM from a mom as entrepreneurs

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01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 1: pust doctor. So we immediately our workshops while academy is

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01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 1: normally face to face, and we do that UM specifically

1869
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: face to face, so that we can have the sole

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01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: attention of the parents, I mean of the mom as

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01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 1: they're working towards starting their business. We had to pivot

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01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:05,680
Speaker 1: that online UM. That online virtual Academy started March I mean,

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01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, May eighteens UM and then we also created

1874
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: this fund because we knew that a lot of my entrepreneurs.

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01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 1: A lot of black mom entrepreneurs were pushed out of

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01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 1: the relief efforts. So we knew that, Okay, we don't

1877
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 1: have millions of dollars, but we know that we have

1878
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: a network that could possibly donate into a fund to

1879
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 1: help us support the mom owned businesses that are across

1880
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: the country that are suffering every day. We're always overlooked,

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01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: We're always grouped into women owned businesses. We are women,

1882
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 1: but we are moms and that's totally different. The the

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01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 1: the investment that I make is solely contingent on the

1884
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 1: impact that is going to have on my child or

1885
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 1: on my family. And if you are if you are

1886
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: a woman without kids, you can take a much greater

1887
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 1: risk in starting something or investing this stuff to because

1888
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 1: you only have yourself to worry about. So that was

1889
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 1: on the forefront of Jasmine in our mind of like,

1890
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: how do we support these moms. We're moms, Um, we

1891
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 1: have a great support system. We support one and now

1892
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: there we have a really good support system. UM, I

1893
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 1: would say collectively, but that's not the case for a

1894
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:22,679
Speaker 1: lot of moms, especially in Baltimore. We're in Baltimore where

1895
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: most of the households are ran by single mothers. So

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01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 1: if we want to continue to keep crime down, if

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Speaker 1: we want to continue to UM have our economy operating

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Speaker 1: UM and a decent faster, we need to make sure

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Speaker 1: that these moms have what they need financially the same businesses.

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Speaker 1: I know either the two who can talk. Now, Dr Lucas,

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Speaker 1: you don't talk. You almost ate up all the pole

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Speaker 1: Jasmus time she's lean all into the beauty side of

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Speaker 1: the conversation that you were rocking the roll. And then

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01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, he got right down. And when

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Speaker 1: our credits is motivational speaker because she can speak, that's right.

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Speaker 1: But let's let's talk a little bit of miss Jasmine.

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Speaker 1: What's just the most rewarding part about being a philanthropist?

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Speaker 1: Because I do see the on the cover of your website.

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Speaker 1: I went there and it talks about you know, you

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Speaker 1: have twenty six contributors Moms Give Life, Moms Give Community,

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Speaker 1: hashtag giving Tuesdays. You know, over a thousand dollars been

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Speaker 1: raised so far. I'm a contribute to that. So my

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Speaker 1: name pop up in there this week. UM. What I

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Speaker 1: love to be able to do. I have a newsletter.

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Speaker 1: It goes out every Friday on time and at UH

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Speaker 1: nine a m. To ninety thousand fan club members. I'd

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Speaker 1: love to put this video or some type of banner

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Speaker 1: in telling your story, your your organizational story, moms and entrepreneurs,

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Speaker 1: and see if we can get some more contributions. Is

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Speaker 1: that cool? We love beautiful than beautiful. It's just beautiful,

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Speaker 1: just beautiful. I know you don't have much time left

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Speaker 1: because you know your business partner can talk. You know,

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Speaker 1: as my mom says, talking talk her head off of

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Speaker 1: a dog. You know what I'm saying. Do you know

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Speaker 1: where they go? Well, you know Dr Lucas was talking. Well,

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Speaker 1: I would say the most rewarding thing about being philanthropic

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Speaker 1: is just the success that we need to see from

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Speaker 1: the minds that we support and ultimately thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Going when when we get calling in my business or

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Speaker 1: and the things that I'm doing, I can't. I can't

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Speaker 1: quit because I have this team of other women who

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Speaker 1: have looked up to me in tam Era and have said,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they can do it, I can do it.

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Speaker 1: So if I quit or Tamara decides to quit, does

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Speaker 1: that mean it's okay for them to quit? And we

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Speaker 1: don't believe that So for me, just seeing that the

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Speaker 1: work they're able to put in, the self motivation that

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Speaker 1: they've they've been able to develop because a lot of

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Speaker 1: them thought out very discouraged and believing that this is

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Speaker 1: not something that making these but someone told them about

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Speaker 1: the school mare and saying, maybe you should give it

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Speaker 1: a shot. You're very talented, you're very still it sounds

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Speaker 1: for you to put their emotion and so just seeing

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Speaker 1: these women just grow and build their businesses and become successful,

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Speaker 1: that's the most people in part. You know, I've seen

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Speaker 1: organizations like one hundred Black Men um you know in

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Speaker 1: a CP National Urban League, you know, started one location

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Speaker 1: and then become a affiliates or throughout this country. What

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Speaker 1: what just the future of your organization? M moms as

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs as far as a national platform. So it's funny

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Speaker 1: because covid has allowed us that opportunity to go national

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Speaker 1: as we always um engngetions to do so. So now

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Speaker 1: that we have this um FUN, it's not just a

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Speaker 1: fund for Moms and Baltimore to access. For this a

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Speaker 1: fun that anyone, any mom in the United States could access.

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Speaker 1: And also our virtual academy. So it pushed us to

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Speaker 1: really step out there and get out to the world,

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Speaker 1: into the United States until now we are a national organization.

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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing. I'm speaking to my friends. I'm

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Speaker 1: calling my friends now. You know, we laugh. I've been

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Speaker 1: corrected on the air, you know, on my own show.

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Speaker 1: You know. That's what's not gonna do is run over

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Speaker 1: these two moms. Okay, you know, but they're gonna pull

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Speaker 1: you to the side. But see they could put me

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Speaker 1: to the side on the ready. You gotta tell us

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Speaker 1: about that's wrong. That's wrong, nothing's wrong right there. We

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Speaker 1: have launched over one hundred and ten mom owned businesses

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Speaker 1: since we in twenty seventeen, we launched Moms and Entrepreneurs.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't thank Dr Tamara Lucas and Missus jasmth Sins

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Speaker 1: were coming on this show, and I want to thank you. Know,

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Speaker 1: like I said, when I saw the article in The

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Speaker 1: Black Enterprise, I was motivated to contact you too, and

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Speaker 1: I was thank you for taking the time and come

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Speaker 1: on money making conversations and share part of your story. Again.

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Speaker 1: I want to reach out to you, Samantha, my executive

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Speaker 1: producer of the show, to get some banners so we

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Speaker 1: can put in the newsletter because you have a cause

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Speaker 1: of trying to generate revenue. I went through the payroll

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Speaker 1: protection program and it's not set up for an independent

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Speaker 1: um and uh entrepreneurs, it's not you know. Uh, that's

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Speaker 1: the reason why the average loan and the Second Go

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Speaker 1: Round is only seven and seventy nine thousand loans distributed

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show and we were

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