WEBVTT - Spider-man Elsa Truck Stevens 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:08.639 It's twelve thirty two am in an abandoned asylum in 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:28.520 Dover Plains, New York, and you're listening to night Come hello, 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.720 and welcome to Night Call, a podcast for your strange 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.280 days and lonely nights. I'm Teslint here in l A. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.440 With me is Molly Lambert and joining us in New 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:44.800 York as always Emily Oshida. Hi, Hey, guys, Hello, are 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.760 we ready to take on a hot topic? Hot pot topic? 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.320 We're ready to be the voice of descent? Are we 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.920 ready to be the voice of the millennial generation? Are 0:00:54.920 --> 0:01:00.240 we ready to be old old? As we're in time 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.880 with the thank you next video? The Ariana ground Day video. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.640 Very popular, I've heard, very popular, very internet bait. E 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:14.720 um not my favorite. Why well, you guys know, I 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.840 don't like two thousand's nostalgia. It's too soon. It's not 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.479 that it's too soon, it's that it sucked at the time, 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.720 and why would you be nostalgic for it? That's all 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:30.480 nostalgia though, it's like editing people that were like into 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:34.640 the whole, like like the Brittany Lindsay Paris years, like 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.040 just even at the time, I was like this is garbage, 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:42.000 like who cares about I don't know, like none of 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.440 I don't know. I like Mean Girls. Everybody likes me 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.920 and girls. I like that she made herself for Gina 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.120 George instead of Katie. I thought that showed some self awareness. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.160 I thought it was like, you know, Ariana can do 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.120 this is like maybe like her her heel turn a 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:01.200 little bit. Maybe, um, because she can started like she 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:06.400 cast herself as the bitch, which is funny to do. Um, 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.240 it shows kind of I mean, it made more sense 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.280 than like when Taylor Swift did it, like she was 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.440 better at it, being like I'm the bitch and the 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.320 group of girls not. I actually don't mind the odds 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.480 nostalgia and I understand it especially for like maybe Arianna's 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.280 core fan base who didn't actually live through it as 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:30.720 like adults and uh and maybe you know, have more 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.480 of a rose colored view on it or like, oh, 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.320 I wish I would have been an actual teen when 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.520 Mean Girls came out, which is just like hard to 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.880 fathom I think for us, but um, because I was 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.400 probably not even a teenager anymore when Girls came out. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.639 I can't remember. I was in for free and it 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.880 was great, but but so my main issue with it 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:54.840 is twofold one, the song which I think is a 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:59.480 move off book for Ariana that I think is bad. Uh. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.960 It is of Taylor Swift like like self mythologizing, like 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.400 work out who I'm talking about stuff, which I think 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.800 is just like petty and not something she usually does. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.320 She makes it so easy though she actually says that, ye, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.120 well that's what Taylor does a little bit too. But 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.160 there's that, and then also I just cannot stand and 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.200 Taylor has been doing this for a while now. Everybody 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.400 does this, but Taylor's maybe done it the most egregiously. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.800 But I hate the movie reenactment music video. I think 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.720 it's so stupid done. Well, I'm trying to think if 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.040 there's a counter example of like a movie. So that's 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.280 the most most recent famous one again like kind of 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.720 what this teen movie nostalgia was, the fancy video, the 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:45.119 clueless fancy video. There's a not as seen oh man, 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.400 and now I'm trying to remember, Oh, it's like an 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.240 E d M video for like a song that I 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.200 happened to Like, that's like a Thelma and Louise re 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.880 enactment that I stumbled upon because I was trying to 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.120 find I think I've seen that video that's a video. 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:01.200 It's beyond music video. It it's a yeah, and it's 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.440 just like a beat by beat, like just not Theelma Louise, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.520 but just let's do Thelma and Louise. And it just 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.840 feels like kind of I mean, sometimes it works in moments, 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.360 but I just think in general it feels like kind 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.840 of an empty gesture in most cases, like I don't 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.240 know what what's new being brought to the table other 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.320 than like get this, like you know what this is. 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:23.760 Somebody on Twitter was like family Guy ruined culture because 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:25.680 this is just the thing where it's like, hey, remember 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:29.560 this thing, Yeah, here's the thing. Remember to referential or 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.240 just like without adding anything to it. Yeah, I think 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.840 you can be referential. I think that right now we're 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.400 kind of in a weird nostalgic impression because we're still 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.080 getting a lot of eighties nostalgia stuff, um with stuff 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.039 like Stranger Things and that kind of thing, and then 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.320 still kind of lingering on the nineties and now the 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.680 odds stuff is really kind of I mean, I'm mad 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.080 because we skipped over the turn of the millennial millennium entirely. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.559 We never really did the late nineties, we're going straight 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:58.240 into mean girls, and I feel like that's the best stuff. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.479 Did you want, like, I can't wait, I know, no, 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.640 I wanted like, um, I don't know, I I maybe 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:10.000 maybe because I have no idea, I wanted more like 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.719 white two K stuff. I wanted more like well, I 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.800 want to say that the other videos from this Ariana 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.560 Grande era have actually been really great and original and 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.559 some of the best music videos for a million years. 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:26.080 So I thought, especially the No Tears Left to Cry 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.520 video kind of was like a amazing why two K 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.520 video almost in that sense where you're like, oh, it's 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:37.919 like you're trying to recreate anime in music video form um. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:42.320 And I liked the God as a Woman video, but 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.280 those are both like, you know, I feel like she's 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:48.640 both earned the right to do this and also it's tackey. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:52.400 I don't know. I think it's I just feel Peter 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.359 Kid ship. It's just like YouTube ship, you know, like 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.760 when somebody breaks up with somebody and then they're like 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.600 extremely performative about how over it they are, Like nobody 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.360 who's really over it is like this performatively like over it, 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.040 you know, and that's all that that song and video 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.360 is and it stresses me out. Well, it's weird too, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.600 because it's like it is like, hey, I'm taking all 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.000 the advice everyone's giving me about like not jumping from 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.240 relationship to relationship and like learning to love myself. But 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.320 I also, I said this on Twitter, I pleased with Ari. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:26.200 Now I predict she'll be dating Geezy by New Year's Really, 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:31.360 that's my prediction. She can't resist pull out a tall, 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:38.599 tall bag. Yeah yeah, I hate the thank you next video. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.600 I'll go ahead and say it. I'm a Miranda Sings fan. Wait, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.880 is it bringing bring it on late nineties? Is it? Oh? 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.479 Yeah it is, Yeah it is? Yeah Yeah. And thirteen 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.720 going on I guess thirteen going on thirty was when 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:55.000 two thousand nobody nobody's nostalgic for that movie except Ariana 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:58.360 gon Day. I guess look me too a little bit. Really, Yeah, 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.200 I watched thirteen going on thirty and how feelings I've 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.080 ever seen was lost on me because Mark Ruffalo is 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:10.400 the boyfriend. It's not a movie without a heartache. 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So I try to be a 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:27.080 little bit like, you know, to refrain from being a 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.400 hater to hater back again, I don't think we do 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.480 hate Ariana in general. We like her. We just felt like, 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.040 I don't know something about the video in the way 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.679 it was candory. It's just like made to be h 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.040 it's made to be a YouTube. Well, that's the thing 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.760 is that anytime anything is so clearly manufactured for popularity, 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.800 it's really hard to have a you know, kind of 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.840 organic response to it. I think, um and especially like 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.720 the the anticipation of this video was so intense that 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.680 you were already like bored of it by the time 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.680 I drop. I think that's just what happens now. It's 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.880 like this cycle is so much faster, and it used 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.680 to be like, if you were a huge pop star, 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.120 you could build anticipation for something like that over like 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:11.560 months or like a month. But personal anticipation is so 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.640 different from collective anticipation, Like personal anticipation is a real thing, 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.520 whereas collective anticipation is something that even if you have 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.000 no interest in a music video, but you watch everyone 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.160 anticipating it, you become swept along. And then you also 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.960 sometimes are like, why am I not being swept along with? 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:31.280 This particular tide makes you angry? I just I hold 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.800 Arianna at a high standard, love her, UM, and I 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.120 want the I want the best for her. She's a 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.199 good pop star, she's a great pop star. She's the 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.760 last pop star. Well, she can't dance. That's the thing 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:47.080 that stops her from you know what. Neither neither is 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.480 the greatest. UM. I have to say, I breathed a 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:51.480 sigh of relief when she broke up with Pete Davidson, 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.120 and I'm just really I'm really hopeful for her. Future, 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.680 I was you shipped it? Well, yeah, but it's okay. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.440 We can talk about it's some other time. We just 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:08.720 we should move on about. Emily pointed us to this 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.640 really great article in The New York Times by Jenny 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:16.360 O'Dell um that probably everyone has read by now. Came 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.480 out about a week ago at time of recording, and 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.440 so you know, hopefully people have read it by the 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.400 time you're hearing this. It's called a Business with No End, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.000 and it's hard to even say what it's about. Would 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:28.920 either of you like to take a stab it? It's 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.720 one of the densest things that I've ever enjoyed reading. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.680 I think, guys, I'm gonna be honest with you. I 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.400 forgot to read it. Oh, I'll explain it to you. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.560 The graphic made me be like, what is this about? 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.640 I have to say some of these, some of the 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.800 like long reads graphics are really not working for me 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:52.480 in general. Wasn't this it's like the Amazon story? Yeah? Yeah. 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.040 The way that the long reads are being presented now 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.640 is like you have to have this interruption of like 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.559 a blinking, like a little mini web page. I find 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:05.360 it very like somehow ancient looking. It's not it's it's 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.679 not working for me. So so basically this is just 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.840 like a very long Internet rabbit hole that begins with 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.480 the writer hearing from I think a student of hers 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.679 or something that their parents or their family had been 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:24.920 getting these packages delivered to uh some LLC that they 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:26.680 had never heard of, like what was it called like 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:32.120 Valley Valley Fountain Valley Fountain LLC and um and this 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.400 you know kind of weird um like kind of predictive 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.680 marketing and uh like you know the thing where there 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.760 for a while there were um all these Amazon stores 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.319 that would just uh do sort of s e O 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:51.280 products that were just predictively created. But then you ended 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.040 up with all these bizarre things like an iPhone case 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:58.640 that had like medical images on yeah, like like I 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.839 don't know, like this acted legs and stuff on a 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.760 on an iPhone case just because like somebody just found 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.720 that people have been searching for that and they decided 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:09.640 to put it on an iPhone or nobody decided to 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.480 yea yeah. But so she she found that this this 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:20.440 company one of many that was owned by this um guy, 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:26.720 Jonathan Park, who was associated with this Christian university called 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:32.000 All of That University that was in the news recently 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.439 for being a part of the whole sort of weird 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:39.120 thing that brought down Newsweek. It's like such a it's 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.160 like it's hard to say this this in like distinct 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.320 sentences because it's just like and then, and then and 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.560 then they wrote the story. Yeah, yeah, it's it involves 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.520 the Ivy Times by because because all of that university 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:54.240 was basically the scam where they would bring like students 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.000 over on student visas to the United States to study 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.960 quotes at all of that universe, but really they would 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.120 just be working in a content farm, like doing clickbait 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.079 for Times. And it was kind of presented as like 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.199 they were like, oh, it's an incubator for young entrepreneurs. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.040 We're teaching them to be entrepreneurs. Yeah, and they're like, oh, 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.640 we're like Stanford, which like we have a revenue generator 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.240 that's not we're not fully dependent on tuition, like we 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.080 do research, but their research is just like creating clickbait. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:26.400 And then I guess also creating these stores and and 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.120 I learned the term drop shipping from from this, which 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.880 is like sometimes have you ever been on Amazon and 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.200 you've been looking for something and you see all these 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.680 different retailers that will sell the space cream to you, 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.400 and then one of them is like, for some reason, 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.120 fifty dollars. One of the rest of them are thirteen, um. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:46.480 And that's basically what this is. So drop shipping retailers 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.120 don't keep any inventory. They just when they get an 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.560 order for something, order it from overseas and have it 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.400 shipped to you. So it costs like three times as 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:59.640 much and takes you know, a zillion weeks. But they're 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.440 I guess they're just praying on the one percent of 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:07.080 people who are you know, don't realize probably old, yeah, probably, yea. Honestly, 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.920 is there like an advantage to it? Well, no, they 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.880 make make the money, you know, they make the you know, 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:15.880 difference between how much they paid for it and how 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:17.560 much you get it for. And they're just kind of 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.800 playing the odds with Amazon. Yeah. But these companies that 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.640 are registered and like associated with these Amazon stores. I mean, 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.240 this is like the stuff where I start to get 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.160 like feel creepy, like you start to have a weird 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.080 feeling in your stomach like you do for the entire article. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.360 Because the companies are named like I wrote some of 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.080 them down bro Pastures yeah, bro Pastures was the best one. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:44.920 Dreamless your friend bart lls um and then the creepiest 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.640 one is Giggling I. It's like it's like but it's 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:53.960 all like upper upper caps, lower caps, upper caps, lower caps. Like. 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:59.480 The weirdest part of the article though, is that then 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.720 there are like brick and mortar stores that are worn 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.000 out of this whole enterprise that started as like an 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.280 online kind of scam. And so there's one called Steven's 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.160 Books that was you know, and it's all the same 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.800 group of I think it's Steven's Book though. That was 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:19.040 the weird Steven's bookshop. Steven's Books, dot Com and Steven's 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.360 Book were all the like registered, Yeah, they just registered 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:26.160 every single domain. And then there's the actual Crisco where 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.400 they said the writer Genio Odel was like, I walked 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.000 in and it just looked like a set for a bookstore, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.160 and like the sales clerk was like, oh, would you 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.360 like to check out a book? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot. 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.400 We're not a library if no one comes in, because 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.640 it's just this weird front. And did you watch the 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.400 video of the so so the guy who apparently owns 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.160 this who's like registered as the owner of that LLC. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.880 Is this like Eastern European guy who's in this video 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.760 do we like talking about the legacy of Steven's Book 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.640 And he's Joseph Blanski, it's his name, and he was like, oh, 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.160 people call me Stevens or Joseph Stevens as my nickname, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.000 but it's it's he just bought the company, like Steven's 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.679 Books as existed. Why do they establish a brick and 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.840 mortar to make the name legitimate? I guess just to 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.000 have like a toe hold in reality. But then it's 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:22.199 just becomes this weird independent bookstars profitable. Well, what happened 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.960 was they buy an existing business, like Steven's Books is 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.000 like an existing business or something, especially like an older business. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.600 They fill it with their merchandise and then it's like, oh, look, 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.679 it's not fake because it's existed for a hundred years. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:40.160 Because then they're filling around. They're selling like finger puppets 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.520 or something at the register at Steven's Book, like that 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:47.879 are also sold by and like retinal cream. They're like 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.399 bot creame and like baby fingernail clippers and like a 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:56.040 scary horsehad. One of their most successful stories is called 0:17:56.240 --> 0:18:03.560 the name starts off, it's like a little more so. 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I with my older kid, um, 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:56.719 he was really into like, you know, a bunch of 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:00.520 YouTube videos. Say didn't you encounter this firsthand? Yeah? So 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.679 I mean with with my son, you know, this was 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.000 like six years ago, like five years ago. I just 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.520 had no idea these things existed. So we would be 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:11.720 looking at you know, I didn't really like the like 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:16.520 unboxing videos, but there were some informative like truck vehicle 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:19.800 whatever videos. So it was like, how does a like 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:24.240 hydraulic ram or and so it's hard to find a 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.040 movie like featuring these things. So I was like, sure, 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.560 let's watch YouTube. But then everyone else whose kids are 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:36.280 into like weird niche subjects eventually lands in the kind 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:39.479 of like diabolical YouTube zone. And so I remember when 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:42.480 I first saw them, and also there was one called 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:46.520 I think Insane Gas, which was um, these like it 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:50.359 looked like video game cars and it was just car crashes, 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:54.440 but they weren't real, so it wasn't like obviously as 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.960 horrifying as if they had been, but there was this 0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.640 we can't really tell the difference when you're I mean, 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.520 like that means the same thing. Yeah, So I think 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.600 in a way, other than people who don't know how 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:06.959 to use the Internet and children, I think there's this 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:10.400