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Speaker 1: Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour

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Speaker 1: with Ben Maller starts right now that it does. I

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Speaker 1: hope you're doing well, and welcome to the Magic podcast

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Speaker 1: Box and intergalactic takeover of the I Heart Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: As we are back at it seven days a week.

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Speaker 1: We started this during the pandemic, and the pandemic still

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Speaker 1: going on, and we will continue, and if you keep downloading,

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Speaker 1: we will likely continue forever, forever and ever and ever,

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Speaker 1: every day of the week. A little taste of the

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Speaker 1: Mallard experience if you want. Talking in the third person,

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Speaker 1: But as I Ben Mallard, and we are bloviating the

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Speaker 1: listening to this podcast. We are joined by David Gascon,

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Speaker 1: There is nothing to be embarrassed about here at all. Oh,

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Speaker 1: In this past week, I've seen the continual evolution of you.

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Speaker 1: long distance. Well, I would have put Terry on the

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Speaker 1: podcast if it had been my idea, but it was

425
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Speaker 1: your No, it was not. Yeah, originally it was. But

426
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: you were working in cahoots behind my back in some

427
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Speaker 1: kind of mutual admiration society with Terry, where you're gonna

428
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Speaker 1: put him on. You found the one guy in the militia,

429
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: the one guy who likes you and gets all with you,

430
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Speaker 1: and it gives you extra syrup. It's sickening. Is what

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Speaker 1: it is. It's nauseating. And so of course, rather than

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Speaker 1: put on a great man brigad dear general, like moving

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Speaker 1: man Matt from Boston, or Justin in Cincinnati, or Chris

434
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Speaker 1: and Houston, you put the ship in the militia legends

435
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Speaker 1: in the militia. Well here's the thing. Like, I gotta

436
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: like Chris and Houston. I want to do a power

437
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: our with Chris and Houston, but he's working at the

438
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Speaker 1: at the store. He I can't he can't dedicate the

439
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Speaker 1: amount of time I need because he's got stuff to do.

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00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: And Justin's uh, I can't put him on because I

441
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Speaker 1: got the FCC. I gotta worry about that guy's got

442
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: a potty mouth. Yeah, well, wasn't he busy like flying

443
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Speaker 1: to another state to go visit one of your old

444
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: colleagues ex girlfriends and getting the corona or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what's going on. Oh now,

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00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you don't know what's going on. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I have no I have no idea. I hear rumors, yeah,

448
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: I hear rumors, but I I do not know whether

449
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: that and see, Chris and Houston can't come on you

450
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: know why. It's because he's not available. I can't rip.

451
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: Just if that's true, and you know people traveling around

452
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: to uh hook up or whatever, I can't. I can't

453
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Speaker 1: be ripping now. Now you're not supposed to do it

454
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Speaker 1: because of the coronavirus. But back in the day, let

455
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Speaker 1: me tell you guess you know I you know, I

456
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: would drive pretty far. I mean I would go pretty

457
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Speaker 1: far if I thought I had a chance of succeeding.

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Speaker 1: What's the furthest you've driven for a booty call? Or

459
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Speaker 1: I think Santa Barbara. Okay, it's not like you're going

460
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Speaker 1: to like, well, but it's this. But but listen, if

461
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Speaker 1: we were on the East Coast, it would be like

462
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Speaker 1: three states over from where I was living at the time. So,

463
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: but you're going to Santa Barbara. It's not like you're

464
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Speaker 1: going to Stockton. What do you are? I don't know

465
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Speaker 1: what's going on with Justin. He's driving around picking up bodies.

466
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: That was his gig for a while. It's hard. Women

467
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Speaker 1: generally don't find that attractive. I don't know, what do

468
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Speaker 1: you what do you want? You know? To be fair,

469
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: he's probably like a dead body in bed anyway. Wow, Well,

470
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Speaker 1: you would know. Maybe you should, you know, test it

471
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Speaker 1: out from your female militia members. It probably so. Listen, Terry,

472
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Speaker 1: I liked you, I don't like you as much. What

473
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Speaker 1: the fun is that I found out you were behind

474
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Speaker 1: my back like a snake with gascon. That is not

475
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Speaker 1: the approach I would have taken there. And so you

476
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Speaker 1: you know, you got a little bulls on your back now,

477
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Speaker 1: Terry in England, I hate to say that, but it's

478
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Speaker 1: not right. Now you have to kiss the boot. And

479
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Speaker 1: if you kiss the boot then I will put you

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Speaker 1: back into good graces of the Mala Milish. I'm willing

481
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Speaker 1: to forgive and forget. I will give the all them

482
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Speaker 1: branch to you and all that. But Bet, speaking of

483
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Speaker 1: kissing the boot, I did watch one of your favorite quotes.

484
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: I've watched that movie There at Night, the man who

485
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: shot Liberty Valence, sixties movie that I quote quite a

486
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: bit there. Yes, it's pretty good. Right, that's good. When

487
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: the legend becomes the fact, you go with the legend

488
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Speaker 1: that solid it is true, it is so true, and

489
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Speaker 1: we've you know, I hate to beat maccabb but I

490
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: did a monologue the other day about Roy Halliday and

491
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Speaker 1: his demise and the NTSB report came out and it

492
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: was bad, bad, bad news. You know, he's on ampheta

493
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: means he had drug addiction apparently, like a whole cocktail

494
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: of am being and all these other drugs. Now, who's drinking? Now?

495
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Speaker 1: Who crushed you more? Because I remember when you did

496
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Speaker 1: your Jose Fernandez monologue. Oh I got yeah, keep saying thing, Well,

497
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Speaker 1: it's these guys when the legend becomes the fact, you

498
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Speaker 1: go with the legend. Legend is these guys are star athletes,

499
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Speaker 1: their bulletproof they have no they don't. They don't fall

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Speaker 1: to the same vices the rest of us have. And

501
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: so when they die, we're supposed to give them a state,

502
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: a rule in the proper and knows, people, we all

503
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: have issues, and we all have problems, and no one's infallible.

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00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: I get that. But you know, if you get all

505
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: boozed up and fly your plane into the ocean, you've

506
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: got two young kids and a wife at home, you know,

507
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: come on, are we supposed to celebrate that? And if

508
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: you get in a boat in Miami in the in

509
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: the night, in the middle of the night with a

510
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Speaker 1: couple of buddies and you're doing a bunch of coke

511
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Speaker 1: and you crash into a jetty and kill everyone. Do

512
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Speaker 1: you deserve a state funeral? And nine days of the morning,

513
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Speaker 1: I say no. Now, maybe I'm in I'm cruel and

514
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: all that, but the lesson. The reason I bring that

515
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Speaker 1: stuff up is because when the legend becomes the fact,

516
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Speaker 1: you go with the legends, and people don't want to

517
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Speaker 1: hear that that. They just want to they want to

518
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Speaker 1: celebrate the greatness of the athletic ability. Yeah, that was good.

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Speaker 1: I noticed that earlier this week. Two you actually watching

520
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: the World Series game? I did. I don't usually watch

521
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: old games, and apparently no one else does. We heard

522
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Speaker 1: from somebody this week that the ratings are terrible for

523
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Speaker 1: these games. But but I watch a little nostalgia. I

524
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: was flashing back to when I was a kid watching

525
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Speaker 1: the World Series on TV, and I love Joe Garagiola

526
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Speaker 1: and vincel I'm such a broadcasting nerd like I was

527
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: more excited about seeing Garagiola and Scully on TV and

528
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Speaker 1: it propped back. Oh man, did I love that, dude?

529
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: I used to watch those guys. And then and then

530
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Speaker 1: after that, I like overdosed on nostalgia because I fell

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Speaker 1: into that trap that I do every once in a while,

532
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Speaker 1: I'll do the nostalgic boogie, and I'll go over to

533
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Speaker 1: the YouTube and I'll type in this week in baseball,

534
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Speaker 1: and and then for like the next two two and

535
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Speaker 1: a half hours, I will just like time will stand

536
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Speaker 1: still and I will just worship the late great mel

537
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Speaker 1: Allen and twib notes and uh straight A's in Oakland.

538
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: The Cardinals are flying high in St. Louis, like all

539
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: those dopey lines. But when I was a kid man,

540
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: did I love all that crab? I thought that was

541
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Speaker 1: the greatest thing in the in the world here and

542
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: all those And now you watch it, you're like, oh, boy,

543
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Speaker 1: if I said that, I'd rip You know whoever said that,

544
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: now I'd ripped. But you know when he when he

545
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: said it was it was great. Be sure to catch

546
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two

547
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Speaker 1: am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. It's weird because we were

548
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Speaker 1: actually ready to tape a podcast episode like two or

549
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, and the background audio was actually Game

550
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Speaker 1: one of the World Series, and you were ripping me

551
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: because I was watching highlights of that. Yeah. Well, yeah,

552
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: the one World Series eight allowed allowed. I did that.

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Speaker 1: I did that during I think one of your shows

554
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: when you're off the air for a healthy amount of time.

555
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: Which which health problem did I have that you brought

556
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: onto me? Which the comrad existant condition came out because

557
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: your com rex dropped. So I was. I stubbled upon

558
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Speaker 1: YouTube and I was watching the nine a f C

559
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: Divisional and championship games on NBC. Dick Enberg was on there.

560
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: And that's another one. Charlie Jones, remember Charlie Jonson. Yes,

561
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Speaker 1: Bob Trumpy. Bob Trumpy always did the shittiest games and

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Speaker 1: I loved it. You know, every Bill's game when they

563
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Speaker 1: were bad, or Colts game when they were terrible, Bob Truppy,

564
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Speaker 1: or you know the Bengals who were still terrible, and

565
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Speaker 1: it was I always knew that was a bad game

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Speaker 1: when Trumpy was doing. It's kind of like now, my

567
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Speaker 1: my friend Dick Stockton. If Dick Stockton's calling the game,

568
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Speaker 1: it's not one of the top games in which is

569
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Speaker 1: weird because he had some really good games in twenty nineteen.

570
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Speaker 1: I think that every time we went through the menu,

571
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Speaker 1: he actually had some some pretty decent games. They turned

572
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Speaker 1: out to be good, like you had, you had graded

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Speaker 1: him as bad, but then they actually turned out to

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Speaker 1: be competitive. Well, let me say this, when Fox puts

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Speaker 1: the schedule out, they project what they think are going

576
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Speaker 1: to be the bad games. It doesn't always work out

577
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Speaker 1: because you're projecting. It's kind of like the weather. You know,

578
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: it's a forecast, and the forecast is often wrong. But

579
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Speaker 1: they're projecting what's gonna be a popular game in this

580
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Speaker 1: day and age. You got you know, weatherman that are wrong,

581
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: and now you've got doctors and people that are looking

582
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: at models that are wrong on the coronavirus too. So

583
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, listen, it's I've been ranting about that.

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Speaker 1: That's a whole We can put that in a different

585
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: podcast because I got some thoughts on on that. It's

586
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: fascinating what's going on right now out there, But I

587
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: wanted to get to the Gremlins and Goblins buster, alright,

588
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: so I should win some kind of I heart be

589
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: above and beyond the call of duty a word. I

590
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: don't know if the company has something like that, but

591
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: my god, did I do a courageous act this week.

592
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Speaker 1: So if you've listened to the Overnight show, you know

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Speaker 1: that I have had some major technical issues that have

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Speaker 1: popped up over the last couple of weeks. Was knocked

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Speaker 1: off the year. I had to do multiple segments on

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Speaker 1: my phone because my equipment was malfunctioning and it was

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00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: a nightmare, and from the remote studio that we're broadcasting

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Speaker 1: from compliments of the coronavirus, and so I had some

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Speaker 1: issues here. I used to have an I s d

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Speaker 1: N set up. Not to give you a little inside radio,

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Speaker 1: but I guess I'll give you an inside radio. So

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Speaker 1: I had an I s DN set up, which is

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Speaker 1: a hard wire line and it's old technology. The company

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Speaker 1: wanted me to get rid of it. They moved on

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Speaker 1: from it, the industry has moved on from it. I

606
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Speaker 1: never had any problems with that. I never had any

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Speaker 1: problems with the I s d N line, but the

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Speaker 1: company wanted me to get rid of it and go

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Speaker 1: to a more complex internet based UH situation. And so

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Speaker 1: I did, of course, because you know who am, I'm

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Speaker 1: just I'm a nobody. So I said, sure, whatever you want,

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Speaker 1: I'll have another UH. And so so anyways, I did that,

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Speaker 1: and I've had I've had nothing of a problems with

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Speaker 1: this new setup of of late, and so every day

615
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Speaker 1: we'd have issues that the last couple of weeks, and

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Speaker 1: so Roberto would send off an email to the engineering

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Speaker 1: department and crickets. Nobody got back those not even in

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Speaker 1: an acknowledgement that they received the email. Well the other

619
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Speaker 1: night it was such a ship show that literally that

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Speaker 1: and I you know was it was. It was crazy.

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Speaker 1: So that led to like the what what's the term

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Speaker 1: defcon one? Right? And that's what the So they went

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Speaker 1: Defcon one, DEFCN five? I think is it deathcon five?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was Defcon one. I thought it goes

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Speaker 1: in reverse. I thought like def Con five was was

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Speaker 1: the worst? Yeah, I used to think that too, and

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Speaker 1: I said Defcon five. And then I had somebody with

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Speaker 1: a military background who said, Defcon one's actually the highest statue. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there is five is minimum, one is max. Yeah. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I made the same mistake. You would think it would

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Speaker 1: be the oppotuite, you would think Defcon five would be

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Speaker 1: the worst. And then but no, Defcon one is the

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Speaker 1: I love how like google Defcon five and all of

634
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Speaker 1: a sudden there's a picture of JFK in there. Cis

635
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Speaker 1: it's appropriate? Any So? Anyway, so I had some issues

636
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: and after the last disastrous broadcast where I was like,

637
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Speaker 1: I was really like after usually trying to whatever happens,

638
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, who cares? You know? Go to bed?

639
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Speaker 1: But I was like piste off because I was like,

640
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Speaker 1: spent spent a lot of time getting ready for the show,

641
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Speaker 1: and you assume you'll be able to do the show

642
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Speaker 1: the way you want to do the show, and it's

643
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Speaker 1: a disaster. So anyway, So I get a phone call

644
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Speaker 1: in the afternoon from the one of the head engineers

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Speaker 1: at I Heeart, who I didn't even know who. This

646
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Speaker 1: guy never talked about at the company for years. I've

647
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: been at the company for probably twenty years, never talked again.

648
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Speaker 1: His name Fred. No, it was not Fred. I've talked

649
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Speaker 1: to Fred before. This was a different guy. So this

650
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Speaker 1: guy calls up and, uh, hey whatever. We had a

651
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Speaker 1: brief conversation. He says, listen, call you back in about

652
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Speaker 1: half an hour. I'm gonna get somebody else on and

653
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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna go through this, we're gonna figure

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Speaker 1: out what the hell is going on. Um And so

655
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Speaker 1: I said, okay, fine, I'll be here, and in half

656
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Speaker 1: an hour later, Ring Ring calls me up. I'm on

657
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Speaker 1: I'm on a conference call with a team of engineers

658
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Speaker 1: and we go through all the equipment here the I

659
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Speaker 1: Heart engineers and they I have to fix it, though,

660
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: I have to physically do the thing to fix it.

661
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 1: So they walk me through the steps that they think,

662
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Speaker 1: you know, they're they're checking boxes and what they think

663
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Speaker 1: the issue could be. And we figured out the problem

664
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Speaker 1: and I was able to fix it. So I should

665
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Speaker 1: win some kind of I Heart Media Engineering Above and

666
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Speaker 1: Beyond the Call of Duty award UH and UH possibly

667
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Speaker 1: an FCC award, some kind of FCC. I have an

668
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Speaker 1: FCC license. I don't know. I guess it's it's expired.

669
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Speaker 1: But when I got into radio, I had to get

670
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Speaker 1: a card from the government to run a radio board.

671
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: And they don't have to do that anymore. Roberto told

672
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Speaker 1: me the on the air the other day that he

673
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Speaker 1: does not have a license. I had to get a license.

674
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Speaker 1: I never got a license. I got a license with

675
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Speaker 1: a licensed broadcast. I was, I got a license. What

676
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: year was that? This is the early nineties. Yeah, that's interesting.

677
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Speaker 1: What's that that was? That's interesting. I've never I never

678
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Speaker 1: knew that. I mean now, I mean, you have the

679
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Speaker 1: badges though you have badges and paperwork that gives you

680
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Speaker 1: a clearance to to drive. I know, yes, I am

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Speaker 1: h key, Uh what does it say? It's the term there,

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Speaker 1: there's the I don't forget the emergency resp answering it. Yes, yes,

683
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Speaker 1: there's some Communications Act that passed during one of the

684
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: World Wars that broadcasters are essential. And uh, you have

685
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Speaker 1: a card. I don't use it because I'm not leaving

686
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Speaker 1: my house, but you you have in case you get

687
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Speaker 1: pulled over and they say you're not supposed to be

688
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: out of your house now, and you got that, except

689
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Speaker 1: if you're in Michigan. Now you've got a couple of

690
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: sheriffs that are actually uh putting the boots to the

691
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Speaker 1: governor out there about about people being quarantined not able

692
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Speaker 1: to visit other people from door to door. So it

693
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Speaker 1: seems a little much. It seems a little much to me,

694
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. Drunk on power. Maybe Fox

695
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

696
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Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot

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Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app search f

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Speaker 1: s R to listen Live Well Vett Well Vette taking

699
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Speaker 1: things a little too far? You know, there's always that

700
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Speaker 1: person that takes things a little too far, right, then yeah,

701
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: you're having fun, and then somebody does the one thing

702
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: they're not supposed to do. It's like they dropped the

703
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Speaker 1: turn in the punch bowl or something like that. Oh,

704
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: we're just kidding right now. You can't now not since

705
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: you brought it up. Um, and being off the air,

706
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: I know it was a naked feeling for you, because

707
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: I know you tend to have a stopwatch when you're

708
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: not talking, but you're on the air, Um, someone else

709
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: hawking the mic. Supposedly, how was the show when you

710
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: were off the air? Well, I don't know because I

711
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: couldn't hear it, so I don't know. I assume Eddie

712
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: was panicking and Coope and Roberto were trying to figure

713
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Speaker 1: out what was going on. And so I when I

714
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: got knocked off there Sometimes I got knocked off in

715
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Speaker 1: the middle of a monologue. I was doing a Christian

716
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Speaker 1: McCaffrey monologue and I got knocked off, and I didn't know.

717
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: So it's funny because I had mentioned on this podcast

718
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: with Lee Klein we had on a few weeks ago,

719
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: and I and Lee had something similar happened, and I

720
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: goofed on him, and I guess it's again the karma

721
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: laws of the podcast world with you a whole and

722
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: sure enough, the same thing after me. I'm doing a monologue.

723
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm nailing it and I'm gonna get a

724
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: tent from even the Russian judge. And then all of

725
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: a sudden, I find out that half the half the

726
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: monologue wasn't even on the air because it got cut

727
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: off after seven minutes. I'm starting to think that i'm

728
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Speaker 1: your karma, like for all the wrong that you've done

729
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: in your life, all the wrong reasons, you're you're my

730
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Speaker 1: bad luck. I think it's what you're I'm snake bit

731
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: having to work with you. I think that's maybe right.

732
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Speaker 1: Maybe By the way, kiss of death, by the way,

733
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: we talked about this two weeks ago. Every day with

734
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Speaker 1: you guest, on this Friday thirteenth, I just want to say,

735
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: it's nothing wrong with that. Everyone loves a good Friday, right.

736
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Speaker 1: If you were an animal, you'd be a black cat. Wow,

737
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Speaker 1: Now you're racist, all of a sudden, as something racist

738
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: about that at all? Talking about God. So because you

739
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of confidence in other people. So

740
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Speaker 1: I'm curious as to how the show does. Yeah, I

741
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: don't know. People, here's the odd thing that people loved it,

742
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: you know, and people the biggest fans, and I get

743
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: a lot of One of the cool things about doing

744
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: the shows, we get real time reaction. And people were

745
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: they they thought it was the greatest show they'd ever heard.

746
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: And here I am thinking, man, this is just embarrassing.

747
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: This is a network radio show. We can't even stay

748
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: in the fucking air. And h I'm doing this on

749
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: my goddamn phone, you know, in the middle of the night,

750
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: scream and I'm like, what it's like the end of

751
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: the world. And then I get all these emas, Oh,

752
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: that was great. That was the funniest show I've ever heard.

753
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: That was like a throwback to the old days, you know.

754
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: And and it's you know what it is. It's schadenfreud.

755
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: It's shot. People are taking joy out of my misery.

756
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: They are feeling pleasure, just like I feel press you know,

757
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: I I feel a sense of happiness when I hear

758
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: something bad happens to the astros. That that is a

759
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: powerful drug, that whole revenge thing, that's, you know, the

760
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: quickest and easiest way to remedy. That kind of of

761
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: technical and error on your part. Take your ass into

762
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: the studio like Coop does, Eddie does, Roberto does. That

763
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Speaker 1: doesn't guarantee. And now I know you're a newbie, a

764
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: neophyte in radio, but let me let me teach you

765
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: a little something about business. I've been knocked off the

766
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: year there. I've been like, yes, Bob Gara got the

767
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: nickname wrong Button Bob, Bob Garra. I asked him to

768
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Speaker 1: reset my computer one night. He then proceeds to walk

769
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Speaker 1: down the hallway. He makes a right turn, then he

770
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Speaker 1: makes a little bit of a left turn, then another

771
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Speaker 1: right into the engineering room and proceeds to shut down

772
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Speaker 1: the entire network. He found the one switch. Nobody even

773
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 1: knows what switch that is, and it shut us off.

774
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: The entire network went dark, and uh, he got the

775
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: nickname wrong Button Bob from that point forward, and he

776
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: got promoted. Now he's the producer with Rob Parker and

777
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Speaker 1: Bruss sort. I mean, he did something manly like you

778
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: you just discussed, but it was an error. It wouldn't

779
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: happen if you were here in the studio with us.

780
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: So it's fine. I mean, there's other hosts that come

781
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: in here and still do their show. But you know,

782
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: if you don't want to, it's fine. Well it's not

783
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: many they didn't do that, and uh, key people, they're

784
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: trying to protect their health, people like my know, Jason

785
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: harm In, people like that. You know who comes into

786
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: the studios. You know, Colin Coward goes into the studio

787
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: in Burbank. So it's pretty nice that he can conduct

788
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: business there. And well he does that in part, I

789
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: believe because he wants the camera in there, because he

790
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: likes the video that gets Internet. It's good for his brand.

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00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: He's a TV guy. He can't really do TV now

792
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: because the show is on on hold and all that.

793
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: So at least, I mean, at least admit a little

794
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: bit that you miss coming into work. Like listen, I

795
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: do miss coming you know. I got into radio because

796
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: I like going to the radio station every once in

797
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: a while. I would like to do the show from

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00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: home and hopefully when things get back to normal, I'll

799
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: still be able to do that. But no, I I

800
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Speaker 1: I am annoyed by this. It bothers me that we

801
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Speaker 1: you things can't be normal and and you know it's

802
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: it's annoying to me. I feel like, you know, this

803
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: is this is unnecessary a lot of this stuff. That's

804
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: just my opinion. But you know what the management management wants.

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Speaker 1: I follow. I'm a good foot soldier, guest guns what

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Speaker 1: I Well, you should learn that sometimes because maybe you

807
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Speaker 1: that in the bullshit. I'm a great wing man and

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00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: you cannot deny that. In fact, I know you're annoyed

809
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: by a lot of things. I will be happy to

810
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: report that this podcast is up over the last thirty days,

811
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: so we are doing more podcasts, so that might be

812
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: who cares. That just means that it's more popular. I

813
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: think that's good this. I'm glad people like the podcasting,

814
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: whether they're downloading the podcast and that is. That's one.

815
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: And now we've started and creating a monster. So now

816
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: we have to do the podcast. We have to do

817
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: three a week. Now we were doing one and now

818
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: we gotta do three. So well, it's not hard, is it. Well,

819
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: it's hard to cash the check, you know. Let's just

820
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: say it. Listen, you wear the big belt. You gotta

821
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: fucking school to promote you on air. You got the

822
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: luxury of you have the true generations of broadcast. Yeah,

823
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: you have the luxury of operating your show from home.

824
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: I think you carry a big stick, so you know,

825
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: if you want the hell, you know, it's fine. Again,

826
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, guest, and we don't need to talk

827
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: about that family show. But I'm not gonna complain. I

828
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I'm not gonna denounce you for saying that.

829
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Speaker 1: If you want to talk more about that, you are

830
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: more more than welcome. All right, Well, we'll put the

831
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Speaker 1: baby to bed, as they say, right, guest. So you've

832
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Speaker 1: got Facebook, Twitter, Instagram accounts. Yes, I got three different

833
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: names on three different platforms. I'm really trying to get

834
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Speaker 1: my Instagram following up because that that's the newest of

835
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: the platforms. And that's Ben Mallard on Fox. I'm a

836
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: late arrival to the Instagram game. So Ben Mallar on

837
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Speaker 1: Fox and usually post some stuff on the weekends more

838
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: than during the week but you can see and I

839
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: might start put some videos on there from the new

840
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: camera that I'm getting in my remote studio here, so

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Speaker 1: we'll have some videos up there. Also the Facebook page

842
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Speaker 1: Ben Maller Show, Now that's the Place in the Future podcast.

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Speaker 1: So this weekend we'll have asked Ben, which is well

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Speaker 1: not really asked. We call it the mail bag or

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Speaker 1: grab bag, whatever you want to use. It's a spinoff

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Speaker 1: of Ask Ben. It's your questions. Those all come from

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Speaker 1: the Facebook page. So if you love this podcast and

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Speaker 1: you want to contribute content to the podcast, the easiest

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Speaker 1: way to do that would be to go to the

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Speaker 1: Facebook page, which again is Ben Mallard Show on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: and then on Twitter, which is what I use a

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Speaker 1: lot during the show to get real time reaction from listeners.

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Speaker 1: We have the Muppet Militia that's on there with Earning

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Speaker 1: the Great Old Pineer and then a bunch of muppets

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Speaker 1: that started up. I don't know who's behind that, but

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Speaker 1: it's pretty funny. Uh So that's Ben mav just my

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Speaker 1: name there on Twitter and that's that's all. I'm a

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Speaker 1: guestcon I guess you're not a Facebook guy. You're not

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Speaker 1: allowed on their banned a couple of years ago, but

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Speaker 1: you're still on the other play. Yeah, I'm on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at David J. Gascons. If you want to send me

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Speaker 1: some d m s to be a guest on the

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Speaker 1: on the podcast, you can do that shout out Terry

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Speaker 1: over in the UK and then uh of course on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Dave gascon So yeah, and of course you're

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna solicit women to send you d M s. Right,

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Speaker 1: you're not doing that. Well, I mean they do that freely,

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Speaker 1: don't need to beg for it, like guys in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: But you know, wow, wow, wow wow. You know he's

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Speaker 1: going to get the last word. You realize that now

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Speaker 1: he's got like a lifetime supply of golden tickets. He's

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Speaker 1: just gonna call up and it's gonna be NonStop. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be nobody's listening at that time. Anyway, according to

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Speaker 1: the numbers, many people and ratings are up on the

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Speaker 1: radio show too. Ever, since we stopped talking about sports anyway.

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Speaker 1: All right, listen, have a great day, whatever you do today.

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Speaker 1: We got podcast every day of the week, so come back.

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Speaker 1: It'll be in your device. Will have another podcast tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and the day after, every day, seven days a week.

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Speaker 1: Be stay, be safe, stay healthy, stay inside, do what

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Speaker 1: you gotta do. We'll get through this. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you next time.