WEBVTT - S2E3 - Parabatai Lost 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:39.920 Catherine. How are you? It's good to see. How are you, Dominic, Jesus, great, fantastic. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.519 I don't think I've ever actually called you Dominic. I 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.199 know it's weird, isn't it. It's weird in trouble when 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:49.080 I get called Dominic. Yeah, well, you're not in trouble today. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:53.720 But Jason is clearly Jason's poor Jasons. This is a slow, 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.000 steady decline into a whole Like I forgot what happened 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.080 in episode four, and then I was just reading the 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:00.800 notes on it, and I'm like, that's right. There's a 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.160 bad episode for me. It's rough. Night before is a 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:08.199 bad episode for everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, um, and three 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.200 is not great for me the or Alec bless him 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.759 or Magnus bless him, his poor heart. Anyway, we'll get 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.759 into that. Stop rushing me. Goodness gracious, So today, Tom, 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.760 we are rewatching season two episode three, parabt I lost. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:25.120 The original air date was January Seen, written by the 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:29.280 lovely Peter Binswanger, who we just adore, and directed by 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.440 the also lovely Gregory Smith, who we really really enjoyed 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.560 having on the who I also worked with again in 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.840 the Arrow Verse. Oddly enough, he bounces, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.600 I worked at him on Arrow A couple of years later. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.120 I was like, hey, it's nice. It's nice when you 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.240 get to run into people again. But this episode, as 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.240 one may know, is starring myself as Clarie Fray, You 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.760 dum As, Jays Wlan, Alberta Rozuende, Matthew Didario, emarad Tobia 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.440 Asama Stafa, Harry Sham Jr. With guest stars Alan and Sprang, 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:07.760 Alicia Wainwright in her first series Welcome, Alicia Woo, Christina Cox, 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:12.120 David castro A, Maxim Roy, Next Segar and Stephanie Bennett. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.000 All the hits tell us, Oh my goodness. Let me 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.359 tell you, god, I forgot about this episode. There's so 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.680 much just getting my ass kicked, and I'm so looking 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.760 forward to it the time. The time is running out 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.160 for Jason. Already cut off from the Institute and his friends, 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.040 Jason finds his situation worsening when he becomes the target 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.639 for the New York Wolfpack, who believed Jason to be 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.440 a killer and don't forget about Older Tree and the 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.720 shadow Hunters, who continue their own hunt for Jason. With 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.240 Ja's becoming the most wanted man in New York. Can 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.560 his friends find him before everyone else does? There was 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.520 a lot of jas's in that sentence. I don't want 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:52.640 to monopolize this episode, although do I know? I would 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.600 never um. Meanwhile, Simon is on a search of his 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.440 own as Raphael puts pressure on him to find Camille. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.880 Oh my goodness, so much, so much, so much that 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.240 we're in for I'm so excited so much. I am 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.800 as well. We also get to meet baby Jason, baby 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.799 Alec in this one. Yeah, oh yeah, we should get 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.400 all those folks, baby Jay's baby Alec and teenage Jay's 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.120 teenage Alic, teenage Isabel. Oh that's right, Yeah, they're all 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:17.680 in it as well. Yeah, we should try and get 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.200 them because they were all fantastic and poor baby and 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.520 teenage Jays had to wear a single brown contact lens, 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.760 which I can tell you from experiences wildly uncomfortable. So 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.680 credit to you guys for being so amazing. Did they 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.400 both have blue eyes? Naturally? And then yes? I believe 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:37.520 so yeah nice? See, yeah for just this one? Wait 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.720 is that one? I don't know why I'm looking into 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.520 the distance like somehow I'm gonna be able to see 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.400 the color of my own eyes. I don't know. I 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:48.240 don't know what's happening. Oh well, although that's not uncommon 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.480 on TV shows. I know there's several shows that folks 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.520 have to wear contact even on Arrow. Um Ben Lewis, 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.640 who played my brother, I believe he had to wear 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.400 blue contacts because the kid who played the youngers of 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.480 him for the several seasons of Arrow, who was Anna 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.880 hopkins son. By the way, on that show, it's another 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:11.600 weird Arrow son. Yeah, Anna Hopkins plays my son. She 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.760 played this kid played Anna Anna Hopkins son. I see. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:22.160 I was like, how much happens between fishing. Sure she 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.280 had a corgy, but not children. I'm pretty sure. No 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.840 no No played her son, her fictional so um the 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.680 ad old version of Anna Hopkins fictional son and Arrow 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.719 also had to wear contacts. It's a long, convoluted genealogy, 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.880 you know, I see it. I get it. I'm so 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:39.760 excited to get Anna on the show. But that's a 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.440 that's another conversation for another day. We gotta get the 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.880 season three first, come on. I know, I just watched 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:47.880 this YouTube thing. I was doing my research about this 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:49.480 episode and it popped up and it was like, shout 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.000 out into season four, and I was like, I don't 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.520 think so, because nobody's asked me about that, So I 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.200 don't think so. But I watched it and it was 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.080 like a recap and worst season four, mic go and whatever, um, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:59.600 And then it reminded me of all this stuff we 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.840 didn't see season three, because it's it all seems like 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.600 such a long time ago now, and especially doing a recap, 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.520 I'm hyper aware of the stuff we did in season 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.719 one because we just run through it or now starting 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.560 to get more aware of season two. But I completely 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.120 forgotten about season three and even the fact that we 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.800 made it season three. Wow, how special? Any who HUNI 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.880 Filming began on you Are. Filming began on August and 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:29.280 wrapped on September t two thousand, sixteen sixteen. You had 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.800 your mind Jason was originally going to be hiding out 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.600 in a college in this episode. I didn't know that. 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.880 Where did that information come from? I didn't know that 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.800 I was originally hiding out in college. Interesting, Maybe it's 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.160 a book thing, Maybe maybe it's a I don't know. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.560 You want to weigh in there? Do you know where 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.840 this came from? I don't think we've ever had our 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:53.560 producers voices actually on the podcast. Yet right to our 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.840 amazing producing team, I'm actually ashamed of myself that we've 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.800 done twenty plus episodes and we haven't said hello to 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.160 our incredible are hiding from do all of the work? 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.000 Is the reality? No, you don't want to say, I 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.479 don't want to come out of the shadows. That's okay. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:12.200 They're hiding at the shadows. They're glamored. It turns out 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.480 our producers are not being recorded. So even we just 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.599 had a little conversation that canna sound very strange because 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.920 it sounds like we're talking to nobody, But we had 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.520 a conversation and basically they said they really dislike cat 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:27.040 and refused to be on voice on the show. Even 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:34.560 deny it, sure absolutely not. They they are going to 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.320 be our voiceless partners in this. But I promise you 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.160 that they do all the work, make us a little fantastic. 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.840 So thank you, as always guys for that. Yet I 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.440 was talking for a long time. Just then I'm gonna 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.240 have a sip of my not beer and you talk 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.200 about you're not beer beer. Absolutely well, look you're I'm 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.760 in Santa Fe. It's appropriate beer time for you. I'm 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.680 drinking tea because it's seven. It's eight in the morning here, 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.159 so you know, we're doing our thing and you who, uh, 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.600 there's a few book things that I really enjoy. I 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.360 love something And I don't know if we get to 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.400 see much of this in the third season because Luke 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.840 kind of steps away from the Police Force, but in 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:12.560 season two we get to see a lot of this 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:17.000 crossover of police force and werewolf head of Pack and 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.040 shadow Hunter work. You really get to see how this 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.400 world works behind the scenes. Um, and unfortunately we have 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.080 you know, Gretel has an unfortunate fate. In the beginning 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.120 of this episode, we get to see the werewolf funeral 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.040 practices just a little bit. You get to see the 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.240 first the first glimmer of them. We see more later 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:38.000 on in season three. Um, we we're not talking about 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.200 it again. I refuse to acknowledge it. But we do 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.600 get to see Luke put Gretel to rest with the 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:47.520 Batti Belicoci, which is the equivalent to the aviat Valle 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.680 in the shadow Hunters world. We get to see a 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.240 lot of Latin in this episode. We do say Lucas 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:57.240 speak in Latin. Wasn't the translation here somewhere something about 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.320 warriors like lay my warriors rest or something. Yeah, I 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.240 feel like I just read this somewhere. Oh that's right, 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.080 I forgot. It was the motto of the praetor Lupus. 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.960 The Prator Lupus is something we didn't really get into 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.320 too much in the series. And it's so unfortunate because 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.240 in the books it's got such a cool did you 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.400 ever anyway in the books that has a really cool mythology, 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.360 and it's it's sort of like the Jedi of the 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.960 Shadow World. We see them like right at the end, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.200 right like right at the end of season three, we 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:24.800 see them pop out. It's all coming back to me. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.920 Now we don't talk about season three though yet. That 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.640 was a trash Where is the translation for this? I 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:35.720 just read it somewhere, didn't I we'll find it while 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.520 you're looking for that. Let's get into the beginnings of 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.080 this episode. Um, you know at the so the end 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.440 of last week's episode, we dot tore through the wards 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.760 on Valentine's ship and we ran and jumped over the edge. 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:53.440 Or rather, yeah, we didn't do it. They didn't let us. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:55.560 In fact, it's very funny. I just had a similar 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.760 situation on set this week where there was water and 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.679 jumping and they didn't let us do it again, and 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.360 I was so frustrated. Water in Santa Fe, I mean 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.520 there's ponds. I thought it was all like desert find 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.240 water somewhere. I mean, it's a lot of dessert. But 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.839 it's so green this year. There must have been a 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:20.360 ton of rain over the winter because it's inordinately green here. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.120 It's definitely different than the pilot. But hey, sure the 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:30.640 Google translation for BT Belicosi is not correct. Well, maybe 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.480 it is correct, and we just stretched it. This just 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.640 says happy Warriors, And I don't think that was the case. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:39.960 I don't think that's something aware happy Warriors. It's around. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.319 I don't think that's the case. So I think we 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:46.240 did something else. I'm sure it is um all right. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:52.400 So we started this episode with babies do the little babies? 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.679 Oh my god. These guys were awesome. These guys were 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.240 so good and they we talked about this all the 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.640 time with with guest stars coming in and having just 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.960 entirely immersed themselves in this world that has existed before them, 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.000 and especially when we get to season two, it's existed 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.200 before them for a year or so and it's been 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.040 successful enough to bring it back for a season two. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.760 So there's a lot of pressure coming in. And these 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.839 guys are like twelve thirteen years old and they had 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.719 to come in with that same mindset. And not only that, 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.800 but I don't know about you can't necessarily, but for 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:28.000 for me and my experience playing someone who's existed, like 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.240 I did a movie where I played Jagger and there 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:31.959 was Mick Jagger, and there was a huge amount of 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.559 pressure to get everything right because it's already happened. It's 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.959 there isn't any creative like nuance to it. It's like this, 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.480 this has done a certain way, and these guys really 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.000 threw themselves into it. And I remember him talking to 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.760 me and wanting to get into Jason's mindset, and I 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.959 thought that was the coolest thing, especially for a young actor. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.280 So these guys had had the right mindset to do 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.240 very well in this in this industry, and I hope 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:59.400 they do. Anyway, we see Jason Alec Bond for the 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.760 first time, and we see them, we see them sort 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.280 of meld for the first time. We get to see 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:10.040 a tiny little bit of of Jason's little traumatic past, 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.199 just tiny bit. Yeah. One thing, I think it's really 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.079 interesting just about this first scene. Um, you know, we 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.800 are training room. This set, which is used so much 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.599 in this episode, was still really new, and I remember that, 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:22.719 you know, we were still kind of breaking it and 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.880 these kids got to break it in for us basically, 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.439 you know, we get to every time, and all of 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.840 these sets were so new. These bedrooms sat you might 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.920 have been the second thing that was shot there. You guys, 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.160 you and m shot your fight scene there and then 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:36.560 and then it was this and it might have been 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:40.679 the second thing we ever shot there. I think so well. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.800 And then even this next scene with Magnus and Alec 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.439 and Isabelle, this was one of the first times we 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.760 did to see alex bedroom. And this is the first 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.960 kind of you know, we had the in season one. 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.439 The bedrooms were the upper level of the It was 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.480 our training room basically the original training room that had 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:00.200 been transformed converted whatever word you want to use, um 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.559 into the bedrooms. And now we actually had these hall 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.200 ways to explore. And I remember you sued always get lost, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.920 even though it was like a whole way and a half. Yeah, 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.160 well it wasn't though it was a whole it was 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:12.599 a whole like by the end of season two, it 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.280 was a whole functioning institute like it was there was 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.959 from You could literally walk from the entrance all the 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.800 way through past everyone's bedrooms. The bedrooms were that corridor 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.800 on the right hand side, and you could walk out 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.839 to the left hand side and Older Trees office or 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.520 the head of the Institute's office, whoever it was, was 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.720 there with the balcony, and then you could keep walking 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.040 through to sort of the outside area. Like it was 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.880 all a functioning space at that point and they could 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.920 use it however they wanted, and that was really cool. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.079 And I don't know if we'd quite reached that stage yet, 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.240 but by the end of season two we had a 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.400 fully functioning institute. I know at that point we had 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.040 two rooms. After we had the two rooms in a hallway. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.079 We had one room that was Alex bedroom and Alder 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.360 Trees office, and then another room that was Clary's bedroom 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.120 because we were in close bedroom a lot in the 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:57.839 first part of this season, so they just kind of 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.600 left it set up. Let's talk about Look, so we've 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:06.359 got Madness trying to bring Alec back from his parapetite, 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.160 the brink of death. Yeah, the brink of death. You 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.600 know happened. The brink of death. As as we often 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.000 are in this UM format, I forget that because this 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.080 is one of my absolute favorite episodes that we did, 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.520 especially that last scene, and Greg did such a good 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.800 job directing it was. I think we only did it 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.559 two times really because it was really quite harrowing to do. 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:28.640 I think we already did two or three times. And 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:33.800 Greg is a really cool like sort of direction. It's 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.120 not even a direction, it's a really cool it's a 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.080 cool connection to get with your director when they come 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:40.920 in and go, that was on the money. Let's just 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.880 do it again. Let's just do another one of those, 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.319 and like, amazing, dude, that's great. I love that. And 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.479 it's not that we're necessarily adverse to taking these notes necessarily, 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.839 but just sort of is like that scene in in 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.839 the mid season finale of season two. It's one of 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.000 those things where you like, we checked the boxes there, 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.840 like everyone knows they did a good job, and like, great, cool, 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:02.800 everyone's happy. We just do it one more time. We 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:04.959 get it in the back. Yeah. But by this point too, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.480 we were so kind of in tune with these characters 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.599 and these character relationships, and we were I think we 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.599 were just starting to really hit our stride with the 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.120 world and the family of the characters, and it was 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.920 nice to see directors come in and people like Greg 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.240 come in. Sally Whitfield was another one who just dove 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:27.400 in and understood the world from day dot and trusted us. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.360 And it became this kind of partnership with these new directors. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.880 As we got more comfortable owning these characters, these directors 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.640 would come in, recognize that and then play with us 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.880 and it became such a cool given take and it 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.280 really taught me a lot about you know, this, this 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.840 format of of what we do. Yeah, definitely. I was 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.880 actually very sad that we didn't get Greg back at 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.760 any point, but obviously he's a busy man. Um Sally 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:52.680 we were very fortunate to get back a few times, 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.520 I think, and we have Sally direct four episodes, three 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.440 or four episodes and Sally everything like that. Yeah, I 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.160 know I've been trying to trying to steal her over here, 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.520 but she's a busy woman too. They're all busy, I'm sure, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.760 good at what they do, and they're appreciated in their field. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:29.920 Of course, that's the best problem to have. Back to 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.480 the story, Alex dying, Magnus is trying to help. That's 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.360 a very a very lucid way of saying it, but 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:39.680 that's basically exactly what's happening. Um. And then my least 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.280 favorite shot, arguably that we ever did on the show. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.520 Do you want to tell us a little bit about 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.800 the dreaded this so much going on? Let's start with 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.000 the sweater. The sweater was horrendous, and I was promised 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:52.600 that I would only wear it for one episode that 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.240 it turned out to be a lie. I wear it 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.040 for like three or four episodes. Absolutely hated the thing. 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.520 It was super richy when you put blood on it, 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.440 it got sticky. When you put it in water, the 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.080 whole thing like extended somehow. So, like there's the scene 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.840 that's coming up now where I come out of the water. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.080 You'll see that one of my sleeves is like three 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.920 sizes too long. All of a sudden, it's just because 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.200 you added water to it and expanded like the fucking 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.600 sea monkeys or some ship. I don't know how it happened, 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.240 but that's this is what happened here. And then on 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.080 top of all of that, it is firstly, in the morning, 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.480 the water is freezing ass cold, and I don't care 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.880 about being in the water at all, but it's dirty, 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.520 it's like full of stuff. Before each take, I would 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.800 sort of try and push it all to the sides. 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.360 They wanted me to wake up underwater because the cameras 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.400 underwater with me, which ends up being on screen for 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.360 a blink of an eye. But I remember sort of 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:42.840 being on my hands and knees being like, yeah, we're 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.680 ready because the tide's gonna change and we're ready. Okay, great, 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.040 And I would just sort of move as much ship 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:48.840 to one side as I can and put myself under 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:50.960 water and then wake up and do this whole thing. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.520 This isn't fun. To make it look like you're like 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.240 you've been underwater, like you're choking. You kind of have 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.080 to choke, like you have to put the weight to 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:01.520 the back of your throat and make it feel like 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.399 you're actually sort of coughing up water. Are You actually 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.000 do an amazing job of this. In season two when 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:12.440 we go to address the first are frozen, freezing cold, 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.359 you do an amazing job of this. I remember I 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.560 remember watching you drink and send it to the back 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.200 of your throat and then cough it back up. And 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.760 it was very very, very um accurate depiction of what 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.359 happens here is very good. But it's not comfortable. It's 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.919 not a comfortable thing to do, is what I'm saying. Anyway. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.280 But we had a great medic, so we can trust 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.359 and Drew are seth medic to save us. Always trust 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:37.359 and Drew always. Um. Anyway, Jason wakes up in the water. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.200 He's not feeling so good, and he finds dead quit 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.560 at all. Although there's something I don't something I love 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.800 about this is his first thought as Stelle. His second 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.439 thought is Clary, and then he figures it, and then 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.120 he kind of comes to and figures it out. It's 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.160 it's it's such a very jace. It's such a great 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.560 marrying of very much. It happens again later, Actually it 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:00.800 happens again when he get on the phone to Izzy. 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:05.600 I noticed the exact same thing. Um. And then this jogger, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.320 some psycho jogger who's jogging at seven o'clock in the 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.600 morning by the lake, is wrong with you, Lady's nobody 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.400 else on this beach. Come on, I mean, I used 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.240 to jog at seven am by the lake in Toronto, 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.040 and I think you're a psycho for it because it's insane. 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.119 It's an insane thing to do. But why does she 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.639 think you killed her? Why doesn't she think you saved her? 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.320 This is my thing. She immediately goes like, oh my god, 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.719 he's a serial killer. I don't get that. There's been 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:29.560 like a demonic killer on the loose in New York 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.720 or whatever. And maybe she's on edge, but you can happen. 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:34.560 Oh yeah, that has happened. Yeah, you're right, you're right, 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:38.239 you right. Um. What I didn't understand is how can 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:42.440 she see me? Well, you don't have your celle, you 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.960 don't know about your other thing yet and established the 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.840 golden eye thing yet maybe yeah, no, no, no, no, 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.320 that's yeah, that's a way the way. Yeah. I think 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:56.680 you're glamoured actively Okay. Yeah. So you see like a bloodied, 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:01.199 like wet tattooed man cradling a dead lady's body, you're 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.040 gonna start thinking some ship. I get it. I understand that. 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.040 I think my response would be the same, like a man, 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.240 I don't know what's going on here. But you saying no, 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.840 it's not what you think is not an appropriate rest 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.560 it's not enough for me to be like, okay, fair enough, 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.160 I'll continue with my job. That's I'm gonna call the cops. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.840 What's going to happen there? Even that, I don't know 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.880 why Jason's response was like, oh yeah, you should absolutely 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.280 call the cops. That's going to end up back with 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.520 Luke and I'm gonna end up back with my people. 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:29.800 Like that was the whole sort of aim with jumping 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:31.240 off his But I don't really know what the issue 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.879 with that is. There you go, it adds to the drama. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:38.439 Waterlogged brain. You know, you hit your head, you straight 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:42.000 I get it. But this next shot was one of 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.919 my I've seen. You know how much are the Shadow 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.760 family is to give things. There are several moments where 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.560 Clary storms into the institute in various states of distress, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.560 and this one is always gift. And I really, I 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.280 just I got a huge kick out of the fact 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.119 that she has no shoes. She's looks like a drowned 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:05.600 rat and her face, by the way, no shoes or socks. 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.760 At some point in the in the water swimming through 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.159 the Hudson back to the Bay of New York, you 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.840 figured that not only the boots were slowing you down. 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:18.359 But also these Adidas ankle socks. That's enough of you, 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.879 and off they went food for fishes. I love that 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:23.600 you think I was cool enough to wear Adidas ankle 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:26.280 socks under my boots. I was always in unicorn socks 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:30.520 or some kind of animal sillyness. We also get to 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:33.240 see our first example of and I want this to 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.600 end up like as a as a hashtag that runs 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:37.880 through because it happened so often. We get our first 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.920 like poor ray Ray's just trying to do his job. Man, 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:52.119 sorry Raj Raymond whom Raymond plays rush Yeah, poor twice 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:56.320 in this episode. In this episode he gets He gets 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.800