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Speaker 2: Welcome to Games with Names. On today's episode, we are

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Speaker 2: why did you pick this game?

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Speaker 1: It kind of perfectly describes me. It's funny, and there's

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Speaker 1: It absolutely is not Julian. In fact, it could be

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Speaker 2: that was fucking great. Whatever Alex said he did that,

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Speaker 1: When I was in New England, if Alex Barrow asked

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Speaker 2: It, you know what I mean, Like I would have too.

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Speaker 2: the pocket, so he hasn't had to be you know,

438
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: rad explosive to get outside the pocket or or this.

439
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: He could work everything he had to work until he

440
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: was forty five. And that's a testament to his hard

441
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: work and his lifestyle. But it's also a testament to

442
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: you know, you watch some of these quarterbacks that got

443
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: hit back in the day or even earlier in his

444
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 2: career when his helmet got tooken off the g Yeah,

445
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: these guys are getting hit. And then we look at

446
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence who goes down and doesn't think he should

447
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 2: even be touched. Like this is a National football league.

448
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 2: These are fucking animals, dude. Yeah, you got to protect

449
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 2: yourself at all goddamn time. It doesn't matter if it's

450
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: a free player. You can't get hit, you know what

451
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: I mean. So, like I think it's the perfect storm.

452
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 3: It really is. Is probably accurate, Like there's always an

453
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: intersection of.

454
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: And he's just great. Touch by God, yeah.

455
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: Touch by God, right, So there's some of that luck

456
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: factor whatever it is. I mean, met with the most

457
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: I've ever seen anybody work on his body, on his diet, nutrition, health,

458
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: physical fitness, body work. He hired us, you know, a

459
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: guy to literally keep an eye on it so he

460
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: didn't have to. It was like, I mean, every single

461
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: aspect of his life was encompassing or was circled around

462
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: being the best he could possibly be today. And that

463
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: level of sacrifice, it's so rare and so unique.

464
00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 2: And it's also it's he's got like he's got an

465
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 2: extraordinary ability to compartmentalize that is extraordinary, you know what

466
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Like it didn't matter what was going on

467
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: in his life. Yep, Tom Brady was the same guy

468
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: every day at work. Yeah, the like almost the nerd

469
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: guy that was in there at first with his book,

470
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: taking notes, hand.

471
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 3: Up, fucking heroically unflappable.

472
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: And it didn't matter if it was on the field,

473
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: it didn't matter if it was in the film room,

474
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. Like what was going on the outside

475
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: you had, you would have no idea. I mean, like

476
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: you said, he could get leveled. He could throw an

477
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: interception on the pass drive. The next time he goes

478
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: on the field, it's dimes all the way down for

479
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: a tuddy and we're back on top of the scoreboard

480
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: and you're like, how, but that's that's the perfect way

481
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: to describe it.

482
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: But it's not even just those things. It was the

483
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: things outside of football, like his he had family problems.

484
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: His mom was like, he was a fucking like you

485
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: wouldn't know is once. That's how that's that, that's a

486
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 2: fucking that's a talent to like, really, he's got like

487
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: this goal setting talent. If he wants that fucking goal

488
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: doesn't like he can focus on it. Yes, it's like

489
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: some you know, psychological murder shit.

490
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: No, it really like it's almost sociopathic. But that's what

491
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: That's how I was looking for rich things.

492
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: But but I, but I, but I loved it so

493
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: much because there was all that, like the cold blooded

494
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: killer side and and that's the Sunday's time and the

495
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, the practice time. But then he's a guy

496
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: whould take his tray over to some knucklehead, you know,

497
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: Dick Burger out of Penn State who just got drafted

498
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: in the fourth round and know my bio, like would

499
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: sit down with his cottage sheese and blueberries or whatever

500
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: the fuck he hits, or out avocado smoothies. And be like,

501
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: you know, telling asking me about my parents and like

502
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: and you grew up in New York, right, I'd be like,

503
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: how the ship do you know that dude? Like yeah,

504
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: I do, and and like we would go, like you

505
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: developed a rapport really quick with this teammates. So it

506
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: wasn't just the football stuff, like he understood. It was

507
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 1: everything that was important to having a whole team, to

508
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: having a whole picture.

509
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: And I loved it so much.

510
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: It was it was like having like you know, an

511
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: uncle or a big brother who was guiding the process

512
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: and taking a lot of the thought out of it

513
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: for you.

514
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: It was pretty cool.

515
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: But like your uncle. He was the guy that like

516
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: started like Facebook and like he was like the cool uncle,

517
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: but hella rich.

518
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know what I mean. But he never

519
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: knew he was.

520
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: He was kind of a door Mark Zuckerberg's Tom Brady's

521
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg basically, now talking about the culture that we had,

522
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: now we talk about how strenuous it was, but it

523
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: was guys like you, jokesters, storytellers that made that whole

524
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: thing possible, which we had a great chemistry of that

525
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: stuff in between in the building. Who are some of

526
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: like the funniest guys that you play with because you

527
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,239
Speaker 2: were clear, like I talk about you all time as

528
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: being one of the funniest fucking guys. And we'll get

529
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: into it, like your storytelling your Joe Paw accent, is.

530
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: That, Oh he fucking hated me. Oh my gosh remember

531
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: his voice? Let me here?

532
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, I mean so, I okay, bunniest Larry Verus.

533
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: I won't jump into Joe Bobs Joe Joe.

534
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: One time, I got into a fight with a defensive

535
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: tackle out of like the Maryland, Baltimore, Virginia area, and

536
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: this big dude, Phil, Big Phil, and I took his

537
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: helmet off. I'm swinging out of my throat. It's a practice, right,

538
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: and he's pissed.

539
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: He's like, hey on, Bega, you gotta get off the field.

540
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: You're rennimal. It's not even worth it with you. I'm

541
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: gonna set you off the next thing, smoking back to

542
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 3: Nasau Community College and like I'm just like, I'm like,

543
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: I'm mad.

544
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: So I'm giving him the finger from across the field

545
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: like double birds to Joe Paterno. As I'm leaving the field,

546
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: my offensive line coach grabs my arm as I'm walking

547
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: out of our indoor facility. He was like, You've just

548
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: made a big mistake, Richard. And I walked to the

549
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: locker room. You know, he tossed me off the fields

550
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: on walking the locker room, take a shower, hop on

551
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: the bench, and he comes walking.

552
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 3: So Joe.

553
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: Later on, he's got his khaki pants on, his ankles exposed.

554
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody taught him how to wear pants.

555
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: And he's walking through the locker room and he goes,

556
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: he stops in my locker and he just looks at me.

557
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: He goes, you New York is Yer all the same?

558
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: And I fucking.

559
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: Can't stand it.

560
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: And he just kept on and he rarely cursed. So

561
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: I was like Jesus, funny thing is he's from New.

562
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: York, He's from Brooklyn.

563
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, Joe, Yeah, But I think there was a

564
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: part of him, and there was a part of Bill Belichick.

565
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: There's part of all my coaches who appreciated the fact

566
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: that I was.

567
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: I was a little nuts, a little.

568
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: Out of my mind. And I think you have to

569
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: be to play the sport. You have to enjoy pain

570
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: to a certain level. You have to enjoy contact. There's

571
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. I loved it. It's the reason

572
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: why I found football. It's like football and me we

573
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: found each other because I was this rambunctious kid who

574
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: I guess you would call a kid like us now,

575
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: like sensory seekers, like you just want to crash into

576
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: everything and just you know, you want to be in

577
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: the middle of it, right, And so I was a physical.

578
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: Guy, a tough guy, mean guy on.

579
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: The field, but I was coachable and I could take

580
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: a lot of shit. So if you needed a guy

581
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: who you needed to make an example out of, I

582
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: mean Paterno did that my entire time at Penn State.

583
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: I don't think I started a single spring game. I

584
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: think he just buried me on the depth drive and

585
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: be like, you're not gonna start around here. And then

586
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: I ended up starting forty games or whatever. I was

587
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: thirty six games at Pet's say.

588
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: You never gonna start around here, and why do why

589
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: because you're lose cannon, you know, like you are a

590
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: pain to my ass. Whatever it was.

591
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: But he I think he liked it because if I

592
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: skip class and he could make an example out of me,

593
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: it would put the fear of God into the underclassmen

594
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: coming in and uh and yeah, So, I mean it's funny.

595
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: At the time, it felt dicey. At the time. I

596
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: felt like I was gonna get thrown out all my

597
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: year and be back working at the Meadow Dairy and

598
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: East Meadow, New York cutting cold cuts. Were getting somebody

599
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 1: a hat pound of Blownian saying, yeah, one time I

600
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: was drafted by the Patriots, you want a heavy hat pound,

601
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, just extinguished a cigarette like but yeah, all.

602
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: Worried out Happy Valley. That hadn't have been a cool experience.

603
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: It was incredible.

604
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like many of the moments in your football

605
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: career where you don't even realize like how cool it

606
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: is until you're on the outside looking in. Yeah, like

607
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: the whole town shots sound for football, it's it's classic

608
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: big ten country State college is a middle nowhere town.

609
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: It's cows and football players and you know, a couple

610
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: of people going to the campus to watch football games

611
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: and that's about it.

612
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: And so it was nuts.

613
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: You would have the RVs all out on the grass

614
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: fields outside the stadium, Beaver Stadium, leading up to kickoff.

615
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: And you know, while I was there, it was a

616
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: good pocket to be at Penn State because we we

617
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 1: were a recruiting class that kind of kicked off, you know,

618
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: getting back to winning. There like it it was going

619
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: down this direction, the needle was pointing down, and there

620
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: were some rumblings about, hey, you know, Joe's lost it.

621
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's time to move on from JOEPA,

622
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: and we kind of took off. Two thousand and five,

623
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: we go to the Orange Bowl. We have an awesome season.

624
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: We pump out like some awesome NFL talent. We beat

625
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: Bowden's team in the Orange Bowl that year. That was crazy.

626
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: And then it just we continued winning and you know,

627
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: I ended up finishing my career. Two thousand and eight season,

628
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: we were a one lost Penn State team. We played

629
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: against USC and the Rose Bowl and yeah, yeah we lost.

630
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: So Mark Sanchez, he fucking carved us up. Mark Sanchez.

631
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: We might have gotten him the whatever he was the

632
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: six overall draft pick, because we sat and covered three

633
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: and he just, I mean crushed us. We could do

634
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: nothing to stop him. And then offensively, we just we

635
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: weren't scoring well enough. I mean they were they were

636
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: such a talented defense. They were fast. I think Clay

637
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: Matthews was out there. Ma Luga.

638
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those they were they were That was that

639
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: was when USC was still USC. That was like Pete

640
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: Carroll time over there just after right, didn' he leave?

641
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: Just left?

642
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: Might have been his final season? Yeah, it might have

643
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: been his final season. But yeah they were good.

644
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, what's the bus ride after losing it to

645
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: the USC on the way home? What's Joe Pod doing?

646
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, I I I barely remember post game

647
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: of the Rose Bowl.

648
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: Ye Rose Bulls a great it's the grand Dad. But

649
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: I do remember this.

650
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: I remember being on field level in Pasadena and thinking like, oh,

651
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: that's why the grass looks so green because they painted.

652
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: After we finished that game.

653
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: I was covered in green paint because you know, I'm squirrely.

654
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm get out there trying to cut down linebackers and shit,

655
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: and I'm codd. I mean, but yeah, it's a it's

656
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: a scene set right out of Hollywood.

657
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: It was. It was cool.

658
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: But after the game, I know how I felt. I'm

659
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: sure a lot of guys feel this way when you're

660
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: you finish your final game. I was ready. I was

661
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: just ready. I wanted to get out of there. I

662
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: wanted to see what was next. I had no idea

663
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: if I was going to be drafted or if I

664
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: was even going to catch on at the next level.

665
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: So draft day was a huge surprise. Yeah it was.

666
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 3: I was. I was very ready to be done at

667
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: the college level.

668
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 5: Before we move on from the Rose Bowl. I heard

669
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 5: a story that before the game, you went to the improv.

670
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: We went to the Hollywood improv.

671
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you didn't stand up.

672
00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah I got on.

673
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: So Bud Friedman, who's like the father of stand up comedy,

674
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: we had to present him a team ball assigned it,

675
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: and there was always like he's a father of stand

676
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: up comedy. I'm like, what Jesus christaid in Tony jokes,

677
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: like like.

678
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing with this?

679
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: This guy on this I'm like, look at this geezer

680
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: back here, like and I'm saying all these awful things

681
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: and he's laughing.

682
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh, thank god, that went well.

683
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: So I got off the stage quick and let the

684
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: comics who came on after do the real work and

685
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: they were awesome.

686
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: We actually, you know who was on stage was Pablo Francisco.

687
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: He's funny.

688
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: He was funny. He was doing all the voice guys. Yeah,

689
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: I remember watching him. He was big when we were yeah,

690
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: just coming out, Yeah.

691
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I loved he had that one bit about

692
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: the stripper and the duck. Oh you like ducks. I

693
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: like ducks. We'll be right back after this quick break.

694
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: So Penn States, they're hosting a game that's gonna be

695
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: fucking wild.

696
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: It's gonna be crazy.

697
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: Was they playing crazy?

698
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: Is it SMU? I think yeah, Southern Methodist.

699
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: Oh it's gonna be a little chilly there too, probably. Huh.

700
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: It'll be cold.

701
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: Yeah it's old, it's cold and happy valley this time

702
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: of year. Yeah, I'm curious how that goes. I mean,

703
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: they they they call James Franklin, uh, small game James,

704
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: And I hate it because, like, I think he's a

705
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: great guy.

706
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 3: Uh.

707
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: He he was great to me and my family when

708
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: I came out there for a spring game.

709
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: I think he's a great recruiter.

710
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: He had a tough situation after everything that happened at

711
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: Penn State. It was years later because our boy Billy

712
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: Oh was the head coach there for for the first stint,

713
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: and then when Franklin got there, I mean he completely

714
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: changed the culture and and you know, keeping up with

715
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: the times and all that stuff. So I'm hoping they

716
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: have success. They get this playoff win under their belt,

717
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: and they they continue on.

718
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: We could win a chip this year. I mean, it's

719
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: a real thing.

720
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 5: It is when this episode airs, they have already won

721
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 5: a championship.

722
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: There, it is there, it is okay, So Penn State won. Yeah,

723
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: Oh my.

724
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: God, I like this one for Paterno peach ice cream.

725
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: This one's for Sandusky.

726
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: Also, let's also pretend if they lose, like yeah, I mean, ye,

727
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: ran Out, I guess.

728
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: It's is it not Key pill over there as head coach?

729
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: What was his name again? What did they call Franklin?

730
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess they were right.

731
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: No, I I hope they beat the brakes off of

732
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 1: Uh it's a white out white out.

733
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be fucking awesome. It's gonna be rid.

734
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: So Ranchie, you get drafted New England. We both get

735
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: drafted in two thousand and nine, and you, being a

736
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: funny guy, get to enter a room with Matt Light

737
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: in it. Oh my god, Matt, and I also tell

738
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Matt Light, and then I

739
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 2: also I tell the story because you know everything that's

740
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: going on. Randy Moss, Our thoughts and prayers, are with him.

741
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: But I always tell the story that he used to

742
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: call you fucking coach the day you came in and

743
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: we had to we had to announce our names in

744
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: front of the whole team. Do you remember that? Yeah,

745
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: oh I remember. Can you tell me explain that?

746
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: So I get drafted by the Patriots, It's two thousand

747
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: and nine, Randy's coming off like this unbelievable tires. Yeah,

748
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: he's been crushing it, and you know, it's it's a

749
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: little bit before the veterans start coming around the building.

750
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: But when we have OTAs, we have the mini camps

751
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 1: and things like that, you know, Randy's in the locker

752
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: room and I remember it. It came in waves, and

753
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: I'm sure you felt the same way. It's like, oh

754
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: my god, that's Tom Brady. Yeah, it's like, oh my god,

755
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: that's Randy Moss. Like you're playing with these guys now.

756
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: But slowly but surely, it starts to feel more normal.

757
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: You know, you start to realize, ah, these are just

758
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: my buddies. We're playing football. It's all the same as

759
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: it was in college or high school. But there was

760
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: this weird thing. He gave me this nickname, and it

761
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: happened immediately. I have no idea why, because we barely

762
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: spoke to each other outside of passing by each other

763
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: in the hallway or outside the meeting rooms are on

764
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: the football field, you know, on our way to the

765
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: football field, he'd be like, hey, what's up, coach?

766
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: He called me coach.

767
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: So Randy would call me coach everywhere, you know, we'd

768
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: be waiting and like he's like, oh, yeah, coach. Yeah,

769
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna get on this pot Roads because

770
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: you look like Pot Roads coach, and you big fat fucker.

771
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: I bet you Oh, you're gonna have two pieces of

772
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: pot Roads. Yeah, I bet you bet. You know what

773
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: hat three? Hat three? You know, you know Randy with

774
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: the West Virginia.

775
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm like maybe,

776
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: like maybe it's like I'm in man. Like he gave

777
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: me a nickname. Like I'm telling people from back home,

778
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: like Randy.

779
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: Moss gave me a nickname. He really likes me.

780
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: That's what I'm telling you that. It was so cool.

781
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: They had a fucking nickname. He was so funny. He

782
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: had a nickname.

783
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

784
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: Like immediately I was like, this is the best. And

785
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: then we was its standard, it's customary. Bill Belichick at

786
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: one point or another in the offseason he has all

787
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: the rookies get in front of the room and say

788
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: their name, who they are, Dret whatever it was. And

789
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: so I get up there, and I can't remember if

790
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: it was in the meeting or immediately after, but Randy

791
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: Moss pulls me aside and he goes, motherfucker, you a player.

792
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: He goes, you, you've been a player this whole time.

793
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: I think he was from the whole tame you gray

794
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: haired bitch. I thought you was a coach. He was like,

795
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: you a player? Oh hell no, Bill, did we waste

796
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: a draft pick on this motherfucker? Are you kidding me?

797
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: This gret he was gonna go out there and break

798
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: a hip. God damn Bill. And I'm just like, oh

799
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: my god, that was not a nickname. It was not

800
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 3: a nickname. He thought it was a fucking coach. He

801
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: thought he was a coach. How unbelievably embarrassing. I mean

802
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: I told everybody. I was like, yeah, Randy really likes me.

803
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: It's going pretty well, gang, Yeah, yeah, dude.

804
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: Now, how does Dante Scarnakio have you and Matt Light

805
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: in a meeting? And how did just can you explain

806
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: the dynamic in a in a in a quiet logan

807
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: making Yeah, I want to hear how it was from

808
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: your rookie perspective.

809
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: So I walked into the room and Matt light is

810
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl offensive tackle. I mean just he was

811
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: like Batman Like, you know, you'd be like, gosh, you know,

812
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: how are you gonna they gotta change this light bulb

813
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you take something off the

814
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: bat belt. They'd be like, and he'd like, unscrew the

815
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: light bulb and he'd be like, you know what would

816
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: be funny? You know, would be funny if we replace

817
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: it with a firecracker this way when they walk in

818
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: and smoked the chet.

819
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: You know, he always had like a prank you want

820
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 3: to play? I'm just like, Matt, what the fuck?

821
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: But he always had all these toys and these gadgets

822
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: and these things, and he always had ideas. He's a

823
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: big idea guy. The idea guy love being around people

824
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: like that. So Matt's in the room, you have logan Mankins,

825
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: who's this Central Valley California shit kicker farmer who is

826
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: just roughing dudes up on the regular. Literally could grab

827
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: like a three hundred pound defensive tackle, up end him,

828
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: stick them in a trash can kick it over down

829
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: a hill like it's nothing to him. He had these

830
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: strongest goddamn hands, huge I've ever shake shaken in my

831
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: entire life. He was wrapped around your wrists.

832
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: Dude.

833
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you shake his hand, you're getting an album. Yeah,

834
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: it is ridiculous. So Logan's there. He's a pro bowler.

835
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.

836
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: He'd better be in the Hall of Fame one day.

837
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 3: He's incredible. Steve Neil, Steve Neil, wrestler, wrestler.

838
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: They found him. He was like a freestyle world champion wrestler.

839
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: And then I think it was Philly's practice. Philly signed

840
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: him first.

841
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: He was on practice squad, got cut, signed by the

842
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: Patriots or whatever, but he ends up working his way

843
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: to starting offensive lineman in the league. Played ten years,

844
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: eleven years, whatever it was, won three Super Bowls, like

845
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: incredible human being, like the nicest guy you ever met.

846
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: Loved locos, loved him, dude.

847
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: And did you ever go on a taco run with

848
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: the four Locos with Steve.

849
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: A little place in Pawtucket?

850
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I can't, dude, it was that place actually

851
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: served great taco, really good mobile home. So Steve was.

852
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: There in that room. Oh, Dan Copen, Cope, Cope the best.

853
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: Dan Copen, never without a dip in his lip and

854
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: uh and was just so snarky and he had this

855
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: nasally voice and be like fucking Ornberger class clown over here,

856
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: who don't see if he makes it? Kind of guy.

857
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: But I love Dan. I learned a lot from Dan.

858
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: Like. Dan was the type of guy who would like

859
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: bully a bully a bullia and then he would teach

860
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: you like the lesson you needed.

861
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: It would like unlock something in your brain. You'd be like,

862
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: holy shit, that's how you see this? You know whatever

863
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: it is a line call and adjustment on a play.

864
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: He was just a brilliant dude. And then I'm trying

865
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: to think if I remember Donald, Oh Donald, are you

866
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: around with Donald? Yeah, well we crossed Donald Thomas for

867
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: like only an off season because they put a lot.

868
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: Matt put a real duck in his fucking locker after practice.

869
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 3: Oh didn't he do this for like a year? Yes?

870
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: And he was He had ducks show up in different

871
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: parts of his life for a year. Yes.

872
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: That and then another weird story was nobody knew pet duck.

873
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: Nobody knew where the ducks were coming out by the way. No,

874
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: like he would find him in his helmet. He would

875
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: like be putting his helmet.

876
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: He was like another duck. Like it was a problem

877
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: for Donald, it was a problem.

878
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: What's something that stands out with Matt Light that you remember?

879
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: Matt Light?

880
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: Oh Man, Matt one time.

881
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: Uh he he put a a I don't even know

882
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: what to call it, a micro chip or he switched

883
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: out the mouse on Dante Scarnekia's computer.

884
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: He told that story.

885
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: Oh he told it on the Okay, so I won't

886
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: repeat the story. Well, I'll give you the briefest version.

887
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: So basically, this this little mouse. It messes with the

888
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: cursor on the screen. So it'll work for about five minutes.

889
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: But at some point you can have it on a timer.

890
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: It's going to go away from where you're trying to

891
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: point to. So Dante for I'm not kidding the better

892
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: part of like ten weeks of a season, but that

893
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: the the IT guys in New England were complete idiots.

894
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: He was like, I mean they come in and they're

895
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: over here circle jerking around the computer and nothing's getting fixed.

896
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: Now.

897
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: I can't fucking teach if I can't click on the

898
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: right I'm trying. And then they would walk in and

899
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: be like, Dante, what are you trying to click on?

900
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: I'm trying to click on cut up number two, you know,

901
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: and he's giving them the business. And then they try

902
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: it with the mouse. But Matt, when Dante would leave

903
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 3: to get the IT guys pull it out, he would

904
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: switch it back out and nobody would see him do it.

905
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 3: So then the IT guys would come in and be like, yeah, Dante,

906
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: like the mouse works, like everything's cool, And so Dante

907
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: thought he was going nuts or he thought they were

908
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: lying to him. It was like this.

909
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: It went on so much longer than was fair. Like

910
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: Dante Scarnekia was losing his fucking mind that year, and

911
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: it was all Matt Light. It was all his fault.

912
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: It was incredible. I still don't know if Dante knows what.

913
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: Happened that year.

914
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: I think he knows.

915
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: It was incredible. Yeah, but then Dante was the ringleader.

916
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: He had to try to find a way to reign

917
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: in all of this, Like in I mean, to this

918
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: point in my life, I don't know if I saw

919
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: a more cohesive unit on any football field than the

920
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: New England Patriots offensive line when he was at the

921
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: head of the class. Because Dante, he just found a

922
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: way to connect with everybody. He was an amazing teacher.

923
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: He'd slow it down for some, he'd speed it up

924
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: for others. He spent the time after practice. There are

925
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: so many coaches, assistant coaches who are in a rush

926
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: to get off the field. He really spent the time

927
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: with us, and I benefited greatly because my whole life,

928
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: I feel like every single situation I've ever walked into,

929
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm an unfinished product, like by leaps and bounds, like

930
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: a look around me. I'm like, why is everybody so

931
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: much better than me? And like I needed help and

932
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: Dante gave me help. I love that man. He taught

933
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: me hard lessons. He taught me the right lessons. He

934
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: was an incredible coach, incredible teacher too.

935
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: I saw that when he was gone, you know, I

936
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: just I didn't realize it until he was gon on,

937
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: because I remember when he would he would yell at

938
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: these linemen. He would yell at you guys, oh my god,

939
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 2: and I want to get into your Welcome to the

940
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: NFL moment with Dante Scarnekio after this, But he would

941
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: yell at guys in front of the in the in

942
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: the offensive meeting, but he would yell, he would he

943
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: would call him a fat fuck or a fat piece

944
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: of shit. But then he would follow it up with

945
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 2: the technique that you had to do.

946
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: So he go, you fat fuck, put your right foot,

947
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: drop it right here, you put your left hand right there.

948
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 2: Instead of a coach that's just yelling like, come on, guys,

949
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: we gotta do it better than that. Like he would

950
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: give you play for play what you needed to do

951
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: to get it right. And that's why I saw he

952
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: was such a fucking great.

953
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: Coach, one thousand person. I mean, it wasn't just like, hey,

954
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: you screwed it up, No, do better. It was like

955
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: this would be a Dante Lion. He'd be like, hey,

956
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: ass eyhes, what the fuck were we doing in the

957
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: meeting room the entire time before we took the goddamn

958
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: failed And you'd be like, I'm not sure. There was

959
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: so much and you would be like, we were working

960
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: on you know, whatever we called it there. You know,

961
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 3: if the mic backer is mugged up in the A

962
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: gap and he bails, you gotta pop if you're the

963
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: center and look out to the fucking right because Sam

964
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: screaming off that edge and you're like, okayl I'm sorry,

965
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: but like you're hearing all this and like meanwhile, internally,

966
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: you're doing all this stuff I was just doing, and

967
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: like on the outside, you're just like you got it, Dante, Yes, sir,

968
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: and don't call me sir, motherfucker. That just means fuck you,

969
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 3: and you're just like, okay, now, another thing to remember,

970
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 3: I can't call him sir.

971
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: It was like it was intense. It was intense, but

972
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: it was it was incredible because you learned. You learned

973
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: really quick who was gonna survive and who wasn't. There

974
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: were guys who could handle the pressure, and that's all was.

975
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: It was just a pressure test.

976
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: If you can't.

977
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: Handle a five foot six assistant coach who you know,

978
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, like he wouldn't be able to knock you

979
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: over if you tried shouting in your face a practice,

980
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: how the hell are you gonna be able to handle

981
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals or the Seattle Seahawks or the Dallas Cowboys,

982
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: Like you better be able to handle this otherwise you're

983
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: not gonna do any of that.

984
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're gonna handle Scar, you have to

985
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: kill Scar. This car would come. That motherfucker had spent

986
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: his forty five to an hour in that swim mix

987
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: every goddamn Marty, and he had the slowest heart rate

988
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: on the team. I used to compete with him for

989
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: like a five year span. He had such a slow

990
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: heart rate because he was in such great shape.

991
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: He was already dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

992
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: As it turns out, we found out years later he

993
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: had died back in the early seventies and it was

994
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: just a vampire. That's but I know he's a great guy.

995
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: I love. I have nothing bad to say, but what you're.

996
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: Welcome to the moment because I remember the first day

997
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: a rookie camp, I heard him scream something like.

998
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: You fat fuck You're gonna be bouncing.

999
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: Around the league for seven years woman the back of

1000
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: Walmart doing these things for five dollars because I get

1001
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: fired for trying to make you riders.

1002
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: So dude, one hundred you, I mean, you must have

1003
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: been doing wide receiver individuals right where we were doing

1004
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: center quarterback exchange. So before practice, if you were gonna

1005
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: play interior offensive line at all in New England. You're

1006
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: taking snaps with Dante because, like we all know, there

1007
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: are games where all of a sudden, you run out

1008
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: of centers. You know, you you run out of tackles.

1009
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes the tight end has to shift over, like shit happens.

1010
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: You only get whatever it is forty six active players

1011
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: on a sideline, So you better be versatile. And so

1012
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: he had all the interior offensive lineman taking center quarterback exchange.

1013
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: He's got his hands under center. He takes snaps from us.

1014
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: So tiny little Dante Scarnakia has his his tiny little

1015
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: hands under my giant fat ass and he is shouting

1016
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: out cadences. And I snap a football and he swears

1017
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: it was shallow, so he said you like, so I

1018
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: it hits the ground.

1019
00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: I feel it. It hits my ankle.

1020
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: So I turn around and I look at him and

1021
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: I was like, where did it hit you? Like, I'm

1022
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: like pointing to my hand trying to find out like

1023
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: what depth. And before I could finish showing him on

1024
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: my hand, ask him like so where he lunges at

1025
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: me and he grabs my face mask with two hands.

1026
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: He is now doing fucking chin ups on my face mask.

1027
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: And screaming the most profane rant I had ever heard

1028
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: in my entire life, telling me that I'm going to

1029
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: be offering sex services for work, telling me that I'm

1030
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: no good, that I'm dumb as shit, that life is

1031
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: going to be bad for me if I don't figure

1032
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: out how to snap footballs to him, and I remember.

1033
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: He is day one, this is day one, This is

1034
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: day one, day one in New England.

1035
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: Day one. We just got drafted. Well, he kicks the

1036
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: fucking football and I'm staring at it, like kind of

1037
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: still in shock from the moment, and he goes, now, God,

1038
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 3: don't just look at the football. Go fuck it, get

1039
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: it and let's do this over.

1040
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: So I run over, I grab the football, and I

1041
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: back kind of at a leisurely pace. He's like, okay,

1042
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: we're waiting on you now. I'm like, okay, I'm sorry.

1043
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: So snap the football and I mean it was off

1044
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: to the races. It's like, this is the level of

1045
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: accountability that happens here. There's no time for discussing. His

1046
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 1: whole point was well founded. I mean, in a football game,

1047
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: you're never going to snap a football and if you

1048
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: feel it hit your ankle, turn around and be like,

1049
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: was that one a little too low for you? Like

1050
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: you're going to have to block somebody. So he's like,

1051
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: if it hits the ground, you run and you hit

1052
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: somebody and then figure out if you have possession of football.

1053
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: Coach plays over still coaching. Yeah, motherfucking but coaching hits

1054
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: some one if it's on there, your quarterbacks and I

1055
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: can get there. Yeah.

1056
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1057
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: Oh that was my welcome down. But there were so many.

1058
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have some too, like where you see

1059
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: something happen at the pro level where you're just like,

1060
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: I've never seen that before.

1061
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: Randy Moss, our buddy, Like you said.

1062
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: I remember the first day when the Vets came. Remember

1063
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: that because we had our rookie camp and we had

1064
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: like four days and then we were there for a while.

1065
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 2: And then that first day when we when you see

1066
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: Randy Moss and Tom Brady connected on the sideline, effortless sleep,

1067
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: whole different world, it was like, oh man, that's fucking cool.

1068
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like and that's like that's what it looked. I

1069
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: guess that's what it's supposed to look like. Day one,

1070
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, well, well I'm never gonna get anywhere

1071
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: near that level, but maybe I could like brush up

1072
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: against the basement of that level.

1073
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 3: Maybe.

1074
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: But Randy Moss I remember one time training camp practice.

1075
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: It was our first training camp, and I would I

1076
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: started our first training camp injured because I actually tore

1077
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: my hamstring during the forty yard test and so I

1078
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: was on the training room table for like ten days

1079
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: before I got back out there. Randy, I remember it

1080
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: was a team drill. Randy was going against like some

1081
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: rookie or second year corner and uh, this guy, I

1082
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: guess felt like he covered him going downfield on a

1083
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: play and Randy was running just you know, fly round,

1084
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: go route whatever, just down the sideline, and this kid

1085
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: was drawn to him, and so Randy he's pointing, I mean,

1086
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: shouting something down the field. You can't you can't hear it.

1087
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: It's inaudible at first, but you just know Randy's pissed.

1088
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah. So he's like, oh no, hell no, no, no,

1089
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna run that shit back. Billy out, none of

1090
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: this bullshit. That's our offensive coordinator at the time, Billy O'Brien.

1091
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: He was like, no, no, no, we running that shit again. Tommy, okay, right, yep,

1092
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna do it. We're gonna and so Randy's in control.

1093
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: Now Bill steps aside. We're gonna run that play again.

1094
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 3: So this corner knows what plays coming. He just successfully

1095
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: covered Randy Moss just moments ago. But I guess he

1096
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 3: wasn't given his one hundred percent effort. He knew what

1097
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 3: Randy was gonna do. He blows by him and he

1098
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: is five steps in front of him by the time

1099
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 3: they're fifteen yards down the field, and I shit you, no,

1100
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 3: Jules Tom throws a perfect ball to his inside shoulder.

1101
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 3: He never even looks at the fucker. He just goes

1102
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: like this.

1103
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: He kind of side eyes it, throw his hand out,

1104
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: catches it, and then holds his hand in the air

1105
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: as he's running to the end zone, talking shit the

1106
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: entire time into the end zone, all the way back

1107
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: to the huddle, and then he spiked it off the

1108
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: corner's head. Got in the huddle, they ran the next play.

1109
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: I was like, what did we just win this?

1110
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? I remember that.

1111
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: That was so fund Randy didn't even warm up with

1112
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: the team. No, so he used to be offense defense.

1113
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: Randy would always be with v he'd have his fucking

1114
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: gloves on member oh.

1115
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, shit, wouldn't even be tied.

1116
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: He'd be out there just talking with the cold and

1117
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: shop bro.

1118
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: Randy was a man.

1119
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 2: It was such a fun, fun, fun teammate. And he

1120
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 2: he would motherfuck us. But when people weren't around, he'd

1121
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: always give you some knowledge. He always buddied me up,

1122
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: like because I was in his room.

1123
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh I know, yeah, that must have been something, dude,

1124
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: But he.

1125
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: Would always you know, I was quiet in my room

1126
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 2: because you know, you have Randy Moss, West Wolker or

1127
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: fucking Greg Lewis. We just traded for Galloway.

1128
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Joey, Yeah, Galloway.

1129
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: So like I didn't say ship, but Randy, you know,

1130
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: when we had to go pay for shit, he know,

1131
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: he's take care of me. Tory Holt was that was

1132
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: two years. That was the next year. Oh okay, yeah,

1133
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: but I mean we retired on the conditioning test with

1134
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: the zigs. Yes, yeah, I'm sorry, Toy, I'm sorry, but

1135
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: I gotta tell the story.

1136
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he was, he was awesome.

1137
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 2: No, we were on our conditioning test just to come

1138
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: back right before. Yeah, and he was wearing remember those rebox.

1139
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: Zigs, Yeah, the little ziggs.

1140
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Conditioning Test twenty sixties. Okay, pretty easy, it's not

1141
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: too bad. It's not too for receivers. We got a run.

1142
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys run.

1143
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: We get to Rep number four, He takes his shorts

1144
00:54:54,760 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: off Rep number five shirts Rep number six. He looks

1145
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: down and he says, don't do this to me, Ziggs,

1146
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: and he walked off the field. I never saw him again. Never.

1147
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: He retired. Right, the fucking conditioning test got him.

1148
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 3: That is the coolest thing I've ever heard in my life.

1149
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: He's like, but he was old. He was older at

1150
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: the time.

1151
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: No, I know.

1152
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean like it happened a lot in in New England.

1153
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: Like he should be in the hall too, Yeah, he

1154
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: should be. He needs to be in the whole. They

1155
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: got a couple that need to be over there. Yeah

1156
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: showing turf. Oh my god. Yeah, that team with uh Man.

1157
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: They bulk Isaac Bruce, Bruce.

1158
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: They were bad.

1159
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: They had a couple of white pace was on role

1160
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 2: was there. They had a bunch of guys.

1161
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, yeah, you're not kidding. You know that forty

1162
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: test where I tore my hamstring our rookie year, it

1163
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: was same thing. Well, it wasn't the same thing as toy.

1164
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1165
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: I didn't quit the team, but it was literally the

1166
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: it was the fourth rep. Yeah, and so I mean

1167
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: I had been training like all of us like crazy, Like.

1168
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: You get a lot of anxiety. So let me paint

1169
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: the picture for every Yeah. Yeah, you know, when you're

1170
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: doing the forty test in New England, Okay, it's not

1171
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: just you get there, you do your physical and then

1172
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 2: everyone in the organization, in Player Personnel Department fucking GM,

1173
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: every coach, anyone that has any kind of dealing with

1174
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: any kind of player are out lined up watching like

1175
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 2: it's a fucking meat market and they're all sitting there

1176
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: mugging you. They all got a fucking note paper and

1177
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: they're sitting there taking note. So there's a lot of

1178
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 2: pressure if you don't know the test. It's an easy test,

1179
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 2: but guys get over hyped for it because of all

1180
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: these guys sitting there watching.

1181
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: I was one of those guys who got pretty over

1182
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: hyped for it. So I'm in good shape. You know,

1183
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm fresh out of college. You know, I'm I'm fine.

1184
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm ready for this test. I've been doing it at

1185
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: home the whole offseason leading up. So we start the

1186
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: test and for the fat guys, for the offensive lineman,

1187
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: you to just make sure you finish under six seconds. Yes,

1188
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: every single one. You got to finish under six seconds

1189
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: and you're fine. So you get two seconds for the yard.

1190
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: So if it's forty, you get six. For the skill.

1191
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: It's fifty, they get seven. Yep, we were sixty at eight,

1192
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: so we would we.

1193
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: Would run down.

1194
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: You get thirty or forty seconds whatever you run back,

1195
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: you run down and it's just forty yards back and

1196
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: forth back of thirty second wrist.

1197
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 3: And then set of ten.

1198
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: You get about a two minute break to grab a

1199
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: sip of water, and you're doing another set of ten

1200
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: and that's your twenty reps. Well, in Rep four, I'm

1201
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: running down and all of a sudden, I feel my

1202
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: hamstring go. And I mean, I've never torn my hamstring.

1203
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 3: Before in my life.

1204
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, I've never felt that before.

1205
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 1: So I'm hobbling to get through. I finish in time,

1206
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: but you know, ten seconds into the rest, I'm stretching

1207
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: my leg I can get down like halfway to my toes.

1208
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: You know, twenty seconds into the rest, I can stretch

1209
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 1: down to my knee. Maybe like my thigh. I mean,

1210
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, I'm not gonna be able to run.

1211
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to literally tear this muscle off the bone

1212
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Sebastian Vaalmer, who was drafted

1213
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: in the second round our year. He was this giant

1214
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: German by way of Houston. He played for the Koogs

1215
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: in college, got drafted by New England. He had this

1216
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: bizarre accent because he was of German descent, learned English

1217
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: in Houston. So he goes, hey, Rich, well, was that

1218
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: your hamstring of mine? And I'm just like it was mine.

1219
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: He was like because it popped, it was loud. I'm

1220
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: like yeah, And so he takes off for the next

1221
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: rep and I take a seat and so my NFL

1222
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: career started. Instead of accent on the football field, I'm

1223
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: in the training room and it was It was not

1224
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: great because.

1225
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: That's the worst place to be, especially when you're rookie.

1226
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: Had made that, you know what I mean, you're new Oh,

1227
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: and every guy comes in there and they this is

1228
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: New England. Where Randy comes in there looks you like,

1229
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: oh what are you doing here?

1230
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: Oh? That really?

1231
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: Or guys come in and it's like you you feel

1232
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: bad for being hurt.

1233
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1234
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: Oh, they make you feel bad like it's your fault.

1235
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: Your hamstring exploded. Now it kind of was my fault

1236
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: because even though it was a three hundred and fifteen

1237
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: pound offensive lineman, I ran like a band.

1238
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 3: Leader, like I mean like literally, like my legs were kicked.

1239
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: I mean, like just a ridiculous stride.

1240
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't relearn how to run because I realized I'm

1241
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: pretty hammy dominant. I mean you see my ass, I

1242
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: mean it is, I mean, I'm I'm all posteriors. Yeah,

1243
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question about it. But yeah, So

1244
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: those guys walk through like a Dalias Thomas or Randy

1245
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: or guys who played in the league for you know,

1246
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: Brady forever.

1247
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: They would be like like, can't make the club and

1248
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 3: the tub scrub. I'd be like, great, this is great.

1249
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: This is They wouldn't say something mean, but they give

1250
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: you a look or yeah, just to look like, oh,

1251
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: like what do you got and you'd be like hamstring.

1252
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 3: They'd be like got it, and then you'd be like

1253
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: like okay, yeah, got it. Yeah.

1254
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: Oh actually Richard Seymour, so same training camp, Richard Seamar

1255
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, Hall of famer.

1256
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 3: He's rehabing a back.

1257
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: Same time I'm getting back from this from this hamstring tear.

1258
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: And uh so we're where I'm get to know him.

1259
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: Like Richard's a super quiet guy, super introverted, doesn't like

1260
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: to talk to anybody, but I like to talk to everybody.

1261
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: So I'm just talking his ear of him, like, hey,

1262
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: we're two Richards, right, let's get to know each other.

1263
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: And so he, uh before long, I got him like smiling,

1264
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: I got him laughing, and we were doing a bunch

1265
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: of Because he's a defensive lineman, he's gonna be.

1266
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 3: Ramping up to get back to practice. I'm an offensive lineman.

1267
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: So when he's testing the back and I'm testing testing

1268
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: the hamstring strength, we're going against each other in the

1269
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: indoor away from you know, practice, off to the side

1270
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: fields whatever. And so I'm starting to trust my hamstring

1271
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: a little bit more. He's getting his back right, and

1272
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: we both hit the field around the same time. Back

1273
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: back on the practice field, and so we're doing one

1274
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: on ones offensive line versus defensive line. And it is

1275
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: my first one on ones since I've been in New

1276
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: England because I missed the first week and a half

1277
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: of training camp. I missed like because it was all

1278
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: two days. I missed like twelve or thirteen practices. It

1279
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: was insane, thirteen dude.

1280
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: So in six days now they give mandatory day off

1281
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: after four days of camp.

1282
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: No kidding?

1283
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: Is that the new mandatory day off after four days

1284
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: of single camp?

1285
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 3: That would have been pretty cool. We were doing we

1286
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 3: were doing things differently back then.

1287
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: Man.

1288
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 3: It was So I go out for these one on

1289
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 3: ones and I first person first rattle out of the box.

1290
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: It's Richard. It's me, It's my buddy, Richard, Richard Seymour.

1291
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: So I get in at guard and I think it

1292
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: was Dante Scarnekie, the offensive line coach, blowing the whistle

1293
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: for the drill. We got a quarterback back behind us

1294
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: about six yards where you know that the drop yep,

1295
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: and so blow the whistle. I get out of my

1296
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: stance and I set Richard Seymour. And when I say

1297
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: I set Richard Seemour, I wouldn't actually know that because

1298
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: he was behind me before my before my hands even extended.

1299
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, what just happened? So I'm like, okay, I'm

1300
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 3: all right, Like I guess he I thought he jumped

1301
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 3: off sides. I thought they were gonna run it back

1302
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 3: because they were like, like, you're you're clearly you win.

1303
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: You win early. No, I was so slow, he was

1304
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: so fast. That's what that was, what that looked like.

1305
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: So Dante screams at me, he yells at me. He goes,

1306
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: we're doing it again. We're doing it again. So I

1307
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: gotta go again against Richard. So this time I take

1308
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: a much shallower set, which means I didn't step as far.

1309
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: I kind of almost like set in place. I just

1310
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: basically lifted my hand up off the ground and I'm like,

1311
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: he's not getting by me.

1312
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 3: This time. Richard Seymour took me with two hands.

1313
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: By my chest plate, lifted me off the damn ground

1314
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: and threw me on the back of the head on

1315
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: the other side of the quarterback back.

1316
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, Richard, I thought we were freshed, but it

1317
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 3: was insane. I'm like, oh, it's different.

1318
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: So then I moved to left guard because Dante wants

1319
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: to see if I have chops at my natural position

1320
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: where I played, you know whatever. It was thirty five

1321
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: games at left guard at Penn State. He was like, wow,

1322
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: he get over left guard. So I go to left guard,

1323
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: and I'm going against big v I'm going against Vinnie.

1324
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 3: Will Fork, and so I'm like, listen, let's se how

1325
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: this one goes.

1326
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: So I again do the same thing against Richard that

1327
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: I did against Richard, where I short set. I just

1328
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: lift my left hand up and I basically set in

1329
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: place and I'm bracing for impact because he's gonna bull

1330
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: rush me. He just saw Richard literally lift me like

1331
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: I was a newborn child. So I hunker down and

1332
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: I give Vince a good pop and dude, he drops

1333
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: to a knee. And so I'm like, oh, I guess

1334
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: I guess I've arrived. I can play at this level.

1335
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: That's Vince will for I just put him on his knee.

1336
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: Things are looking up for old tricky Dicky Ornberger. Well

1337
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: guess what. So it turns out Vince Wilfork slipped and

1338
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: I was unaware of it. But Pepper Johnson, his defensive

1339
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: line coach, wasn't. So he goes, no, no, we got

1340
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: to do that again. So peb spinning his whistle, smiling

1341
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: behind Vincent. He blows the whistle. Vinnie takes off, lifts

1342
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: me up like I am a newborn baby, and throws

1343
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: me on the back of my head. And that's how

1344
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: I started one on ones at the NFL level. I

1345
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: think I remember that on low lights it was Oh yeah,

1346
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: it was. It was almost like it was it was broadcasted.

1347
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: Bill wanted to show rookie he wasn't practicing and we

1348
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: all been getting motherfuck for eight days and it's just

1349
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 2: a you know, correction city.

1350
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: I remember Bill puts it up on the screen and

1351
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: he goes, I mean, he doesn't even say anything. The

1352
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: worst part is when he would put things on the

1353
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: screen and it's a low light and he wouldn't even

1354
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: say anything. He had the picture of I think it

1355
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: was the one on one rep against Vince where he

1356
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: dumped me on my head and he's just holding the

1357
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: little laser dot right at the point so everybody he's

1358
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: rewinding it and playing and rewinding and playing, and then

1359
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: he just goes. He goes, you guys didn't do any

1360
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: one on ones at Penn State, and I'm just everybody's laughing,

1361
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: like you feel like the whole world.

1362
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm getting cut. That's it. I mean, this

1363
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 3: is this has been a fun ride. It's been like

1364
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 3: a cool thirteen days. But I'm going home.

1365
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the worst is when you were on

1366
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: the low lights as a rookie. Yeah, you really thought

1367
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 2: you were getting cut any minute. You thought you weren't

1368
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: even gonna make it through the meeting. Like he was

1369
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: just gonna be like you know what instead just leave,

1370
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 2: you know what, I think we're done here. We've seen

1371
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 2: en off. Yeah, like Rich said, when he didn't say anything,

1372
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: and I'm sure, I'm sure right when he paused it

1373
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: and did the four or five rewinds of the highlight

1374
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: or low light with no commentary, then he would get

1375
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: up and step up in front of the team and

1376
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: there'd be two little do boys that turn the lights

1377
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: on right when he walks out and be like god,

1378
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 2: the lights would turn on as he would just say

1379
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 2: he didn't do that at Penn State or something like that.

1380
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: And then you even go back and the guys will

1381
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 2: turn it off. The guys should turn off. Remember you

1382
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 2: remember the light guy.

1383
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: He was like the like guys were like these little henchmen.

1384
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: And the funniest shit was when they thought he was

1385
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: about to talk yes, and so they'd dive for the

1386
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: light and then all of a sudden, like a light

1387
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: would flicker and he would give him a stare. He

1388
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: would just like look at him like a disappointed father,

1389
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, not a good day to a

1390
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:41,479
Speaker 1: good day.

1391
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 3: That tech guy.

1392
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh my god, those people bless.

1393
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 6: That was like the Seinfeld and George would leave on

1394
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 6: a high note.

1395
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 3: Exactly right, exactly right.

1396
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 2: Could you explain to people Billy O'Brien as when we're rookies.

1397
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Billy O'Brien.

1398
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: He I mean like he first of all, super well

1399
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: informed coach, knew knows shit, knew every nuance of every

1400
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: play we're gonna run, you know, whether it was the

1401
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: offensive line pass blocking scheme or the appropriate route depth

1402
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: of the tight end or the option route the slot

1403
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: guy's gonna run, or the quarterbacks drop or the re whatever.

1404
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: I mean, the global view he had of the game,

1405
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: plus what the defense is gonna do to you, how

1406
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: you respond to the defense. He was a practitioner, but

1407
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: he was also like we called him a teapot because

1408
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: it was like watching a kettle on like medium. So

1409
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: you start the meeting and Billy, oh wouldn't be at

1410
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: like one level of frustration, like there was always just

1411
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: like a simmer, like he's always kind of pissed just.

1412
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 2: A little, yeah, just a little, and then potential energy.

1413
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: The meeting would go on and be like, you know,

1414
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: if Jules, you know, if he was supposed to run

1415
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: around to the sticks, you know, yeah, you know, he

1416
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: came up to two yards short, and it's just like

1417
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean, we like, I mean, it stirred down Julie,

1418
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: and like I like, I don't, I don't, I don't

1419
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: actually understand how I could. I couldn't have been more

1420
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: clear in the meeting before the practice, because god damn it, Joe,

1421
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: and he would lose his mind and like vain sticking

1422
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: out of parts of his face neck he get the

1423
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: neck veil, remember, dude, And you would be like is

1424
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: he gonna make it? And then he would ask you

1425
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: a question or whoever screwed something up like his beautiful play?

1426
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: Like you maimed his beautiful play? Like how could you

1427
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: do this to me? You embarrassed me in front of

1428
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: all these coaches. We're gonna do this on Sunday, you idiot,

1429
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: and be like, explain yourself. And then there were times

1430
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 1: where like a receiver might say something smart. It's like, oh,

1431
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: you know, I saw the safety cheating a little bit,

1432
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: and I just want to cut off the around a

1433
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 1: little bit earlier.

1434
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 3: And he would be like as absolutely not, absolutely not.

1435
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 3: But then sometimes later on he would change it because

1436
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 3: he was a good listener too, But he was a

1437
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 3: hothead and and but was a wonderful coach.

1438
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: Because again, that's the pressure cooker. If you could make

1439
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: it an offensive meeting, if you can make it on

1440
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: the field, if you if you could deal with all

1441
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: of this, it's not fake pressure. It's real because jobs

1442
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: are on the line and salaries on the line. If

1443
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: you could last inside the practice field, the meeting rooms,

1444
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna be fine.

1445
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 3: On some the games were so much easier.

1446
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: Easier, Yeah, prepared and that you get the hate was

1447
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: in the barn at that point. All the work was in. Yeah,

1448
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: it's pretty crazy. Got a cool ACC matchup this year

1449
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: Boston College versus North Carolina, Oh my god, versus Billy Oh.

1450
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 3: I didn't thought about it.

1451
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 6: Let's would have ever seen the day he's with Billy Oh?

1452
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 2: Is build going to fucking make a trade or a

1453
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 2: scholarship trade for nil money?

1454
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: Can they lure Bears Nigerian away? Bears needs to be

1455
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: with Bill For anybody who doesn't know. Bear's Nigerian was

1456
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: Bill's like right hand man. He was his office assistant.

1457
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: So as you walked into the Patriots facility at Joellette Stadium,

1458
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: immediately to your left was Bearje's office and it was

1459
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: a Jack and Jill office. You had to walk through

1460
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: Bears's office to get to Bill's office, So the only

1461
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,879
Speaker 1: way into Bill's office was through Bearje's office.

1462
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: And like Bear's Nigerian, he did I mean he did

1463
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 3: everything everything.

1464
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: I mean, he did everything except actually take snaps on

1465
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: the football field, like I mean. There were times, like

1466
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he would do everything. There were times where

1467
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: he'd be up in a thing, filming a practice, or

1468
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: washing a car, or like you know, like I mean,

1469
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: like doing Bill's taxes, like I mean, whatever he needed.

1470
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 2: He was a glue guy. He was an important role

1471
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: player on the staff. Definitely a glue guy. So much

1472
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 2: social media had to be scoured by Bears.

1473
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 3: Did you feel like Bears hated you from the day

1474
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 3: you walked in that building until the day you left.

1475
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: I felt like it took me about five six years.

1476
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 3: Yea. I felt like Bears had no sense of humor

1477
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: for me. I would say hello to Bears.

1478
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: I would try to crack a joke and he would

1479
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: look at me as if I was speaking French or Latin.

1480
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well fuck me, see later, Bears,

1481
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: and just continue on.

1482
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: My would be at his stand up desk like all right,

1483
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: aarren Berger.

1484
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he wouldn't laugh. You would say something like

1485
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 3: the meeting starts at seven fifty and then continue typing

1486
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 3: and be like, all right, well.

1487
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 2: What was your perception of Ernie Adams? He's been on

1488
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: the pod we love Arnie. What did you think Ernie

1489
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: Adams was a mad scientist. I didn't know that he

1490
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 2: was on the coaching staff. I thought he was someone's

1491
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: dad at first. To be perfectly honest with you, okay,

1492
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,560
Speaker 2: can we okay? This is how bad it was for

1493
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 2: me when I was recruited and signed my letter intent

1494
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: to Penn State, and through my first maybe three years,

1495
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what the Big ten was, Like,

1496
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: I knew nothing about football. I played lacrosse my whole

1497
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: young life. I didn't watch any football. I didn't particularly

1498
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 2: care to watch anything. I loved playing it, so I

1499
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: started playing in eighth grade and then it became the thing.

1500
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: So when I was drafted by New England. I learned

1501
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 2: everything at Penn State, and then I learned everything more

1502
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,799
Speaker 2: of everything when I was in New England.

1503
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 3: But I didn't even know where were in the AFC East.

1504
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 3: I didn't know where to Foxborough was. I didn't know

1505
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: where fox Yeah, I knew it was in Massachusetts. See,

1506
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 3: I didn't know that because I couldn't tell you, like

1507
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 3: who we played against in Division. Like when people were

1508
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 3: like Division Rob, I'm like, oh, yeah, the Tennessee ThunderCats.

1509
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 3: Am I all right? Every time we play the Cats,

1510
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: it's Pat's Cats? Am I right? God?

1511
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: It was.

1512
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,799
Speaker 1: I had no idea. I had no frame of reference.

1513
01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: So like when I'm meeting different coaches and like, you know,

1514
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: this guy's the you know whatever, the offensive assistant to

1515
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: the nutritionists. I was like, coret On, It's great to

1516
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: meet you. Like so Ernie, I thought he was just

1517
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: someone's dad. I didn't know he had an actual title

1518
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: that one tells you, yeah, and nobody told you. So.

1519
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: It was just this must gray like white mustache man

1520
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: wandering around a football field muttering to himself. And then

1521
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: occasionally he'd walk up to a coach Hanna machet of

1522
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: paper and it would be like he would read it,

1523
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: fold it, put it in the pocket, and be like,

1524
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna do something different. Like but he

1525
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: was like a mad scientist. He just wandered the field

1526
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: and fixed shit. He was incredible. Do you have any

1527
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: interactions with him? Only a couple and it was usually

1528
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: when someone else was talking to him, because I never

1529
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: once started a conversation with Ernie. I think he came

1530
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: up to me one time and it might have been

1531
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: something like you know where you're from originally and be like, uh,

1532
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: New York, Nassau County, right, yeah, all right, and then

1533
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: he'd walk away.

1534
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 2: I'd be like, he knew everything about you.

1535
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 3: That was him talking, that was him, that's Ernie saying hi, No.

1536
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: But I found out later he's like got this savant

1537
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: level understanding of the game of football, and him and

1538
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: Bill would like scour the archives for hours, and you know,

1539
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: he had this encyclopedic knowledge of like, you know, every

1540
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: play that you know the teams he was affiliated with

1541
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,560
Speaker 1: have ever ran and be able to recall.

1542
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 3: Things like in moments.

1543
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1544
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: Brains like that. I don't have a brain that works

1545
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: that way. No, brains like that impressed me. Ernie impresses

1546
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: me to no end.

1547
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: No, but you have brains that killed rookie skits.

1548
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the story?

1549
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: I don't know if you could tell it on here,

1550
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: but you told you got a fucking white boy.

1551
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 3: So he was our guy.

1552
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 2: Didn't you do a commercial, the Matt Light commercial?

1553
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

1554
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, because matt Light had the vitamin water. He dressed

1555
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 2: up in a two too or something.

1556
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: He was, yeah, like in a skin suit because there

1557
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: would dance around in this. Was it Snapple or Soaby Life.

1558
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,919
Speaker 2: Solery water, Life Water.

1559
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: Whatever it was. It was a ridiculous commercial. And so

1560
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: we're making fun of Light for that one. Let's see. Yeah,

1561
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: the one you're talking about with the whiteboard, I can't repeat,

1562
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, Oh I can. All right, I have

1563
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: one for you, this one actually, So this continued so

1564
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: Bill during the Rookie skids, Like when I told a

1565
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: story about my life, he was he. I mean I

1566
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: didn't realize he had as good of a sense of

1567
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: humor until that night, and he was howling, laughing, and

1568
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: it was almost like encouraging me to go deeper and

1569
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: further into this story. I'm like, oh, I thought this

1570
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: was going to be like a little.

1571
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: Shape risque a little only Skarniko. Oh al least Scar

1572
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 2: would be like, oh, we got it, and.

1573
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: I would just pile it on. I'd give more details

1574
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: and so Bill would like it. So throughout my time there,

1575
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: he would call me up, if you remember, even after

1576
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: my rookie season, at random times, just to tell a story.

1577
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: Twenty eleven, he called me to the front of the

1578
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: rooms my third year in. He was like, hey, rich

1579
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 1: he got a story for us. I'm like, yeah, I

1580
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: could come up with one. So I wandered down the

1581
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 1: front of the room and now there's expectation and people

1582
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: are like clapping and applouding.

1583
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, what am I going to

1584
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 2: tell these people? This is gonna be I have nothing ready.

1585
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what I was in the crowd.

1586
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, Richie's got this. Let's go rich.

1587
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 1: So fortunately, something awful had happened to me that offseason

1588
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 1: and I regaled the tail in front of the team.

1589
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: It was the year of the lockout twenty eleven, so

1590
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: the owners locked us out. We were left to our

1591
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,560
Speaker 1: own devices, like you could not go to the facilities

1592
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: because a new CBA had to be hammered out between

1593
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: the players and the owners. So I had just had

1594
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: a shoulder surgery on my right shoulder and I'm in

1595
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: an arm sling still. The training staff, Jim Whalen, Joe,

1596
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: they set me up with the with the the Boston

1597
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,839
Speaker 1: Red Sox trainers because I'm living in Boston.

1598
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they have a like a private practice.

1599
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: Three blocks four blocks walking distance from the apartment I

1600
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: was renting in Boston at the time. So i wake

1601
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 1: up one morning and I'm telling this story in front

1602
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: of the team. This is for Bill and everybody else.

1603
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: I wake up one morning, I roll out of bed

1604
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: and I don't hear my alarm, like, oh, I'm late

1605
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: for this training session. And now the Patriots trainers could

1606
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: they could communicate with those Red Sox trainers. They just

1607
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: couldn't talk to me because they're under contract with the

1608
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: league owners, so they would know if I missed or

1609
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 1: was late or anything. So I'm like sprinting to get ready.

1610
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: So I throw on a pair of sweats, I throw

1611
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,879
Speaker 1: on a T shirt. I'm wearing my arm sling and sandals.

1612
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: I walk the four blocks over to the PT clinic.

1613
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: So I hit the elevator. I'm riding up to the

1614
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: second floor, and I'll pause here to tell you what

1615
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: I have for dinner.

1616
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 3: The night before. I had a sushi from a gas station.

1617
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: Which don't do that in Boston.

1618
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: In Boston, yeah, which there was like one gas station

1619
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: in Boston, and they.

1620
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 2: Had the best sushi, so said the Mexican food joint

1621
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 2: t right there.

1622
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you know the one that.

1623
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're gone, get oh, it's gone gone. Well,

1624
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 1: they had good sushi. But but it was questionable, I

1625
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: guess because I kicked my leg up in this elevator

1626
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: and I ship my pants worse than anybody has ever

1627
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: shipped a pair of pants in the history of shitting pants.

1628
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: It was I can't even explain to you how horrifying

1629
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: the scene was. But did you go down your leg, buddy?

1630
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: It had cuffed ankles full. Okay, So anyways, I'm in

1631
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: this elevator now with my ship pants, and the door's

1632
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: open at the second floor, and I'm like, I can't

1633
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 1: leave this elevator, so the door's just closed.

1634
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 3: And now I'm just riding an elevator.

1635
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: In soil pants and it smells in there.

1636
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 3: Oh and I didn't have time to put on draws

1637
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: like I'm wearing just gray sweatpants, buddy.

1638
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: So we're riding the elevator. I'm riding an elevator up

1639
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 1: and down, and people are like coming onto this elevator

1640
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: like starting their workday. And I mean, I smell like

1641
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,520
Speaker 1: an ox like like people are now like visually disturbed,

1642
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: and I mean, I'm a psychopath in the back of

1643
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: this elevator, tucked into a corner because I don't want

1644
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: them to see the back of my pants, and the

1645
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 1: elevator reeks, so they're like, who's this escaped patient. I'm

1646
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: sitting there in an arm slant wearing sandals and shit

1647
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: stained sweatpants and a T shirt. So finally I'm like,

1648
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 1: I guess I just have to walk home and kind

1649
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: of face the music.

1650
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 2: Here.

1651
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 3: This is the worst day of my life.

1652
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 1: And so I hit lobby, go down a lobby, doors open,

1653
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, as I'm walking through the doors,

1654
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: I notice it says PG on the button panel.

1655
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:52,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, parking garage.

1656
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: I'd always walked there, I never driven, so I didn't

1657
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 1: know there was parking garage. So I clicked PG really

1658
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: quick and I go down to the parking garage. But

1659
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 1: now I mean, it's change nothing.

1660
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 3: I'm now just I'm walking around a parking garage, trying

1661
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 3: to only face people as they're exiting their vehicles and

1662
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 3: going to this elevator, also scaring the shit out of

1663
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 3: people because they're like, who is this escape patient wearing

1664
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 3: the arm sling only facing us in the parking garage. So,

1665
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 3: after doing this for like five minutes trying to figure

1666
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 3: out a plan, I'm like, I gotta face some music

1667
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 3: and walk home.

1668
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: So I'm heading for daylight. I'm about to pass the

1669
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: last row of cars and go up the ramp, and

1670
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: I at the corner of my eye, I see a

1671
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 1: pair of jeans in the back of a Honda Civic.

1672
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 3: I'm just like, God, damn.

1673
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if it were me and I knew someone

1674
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: like me were in this situation, I know I would

1675
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 1: feel okay with him taking these jeans, and so I

1676
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: don't feel great about it. Sir, ma'am, I'm sorry for

1677
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: taking your clothing. But I opened the back seat, the

1678
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: back door to this Honda Civic. I grab, I grab

1679
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: what I thought. We're jeans, what we're popular back then

1680
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 1: that aren't so popular anymore.

1681
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 3: Are jaggings and the woman whose jaggings he's belonged to,

1682
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 3: was not a large woman. These were. She was diminutive

1683
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 3: and stature, to say the very least.

1684
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 1: These were the smallest fucking leggings that a human being

1685
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 1: could squeeze themselves into. And I'm kicking off my clothes

1686
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: in this parking garage and I'm pulling these ill So

1687
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: I even removed my shirt because I needed like clean up.

1688
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: It was I don't even want to get into spacific

1689
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: because it was bad. So the sandals, the T shirt,

1690
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: and the sweats that I was wearing ended up under

1691
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: this poor woman's car.

1692
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 3: I pulled the jaggings up. They're tearing at the seams.

1693
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: There's holes in these jaggings, okay, and I'm wearing I

1694
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: reassemble my arm sling, and so I'm walking towards the.

1695
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 3: Exit, and I realized, like, oh, this is way worse.

1696
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 3: This is like I didn't do the math, but now

1697
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 3: I'm a three hundred and fifteen pound man in an

1698
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 3: arm sling, wearing ill fitting women's clothing, and well, I'm

1699
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 3: just gonna walk home in the streets of Boston.

1700
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: So look, I was an athlete and I'm not bragging

1701
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 1: humble bread. I was super fast for being a fat guy,

1702
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: and so I decide, once I hit the top of

1703
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: this ram, I'm sprinting home like I'm gonna get there

1704
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: like mock three. I'm breaking the sound barrier here, So

1705
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: I start running. Didn't do the math on this. When

1706
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,799
Speaker 1: you're dressed like that and you start running in public,

1707
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: people start running with you because they're afraid of whatever

1708
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 1: danger you're running away from. So now it's like the

1709
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: jogging club going down the streets of Boston. I shake

1710
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 1: my tail though. I make it back to the apartment.

1711
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: I shower off. The doorman buzzes me in completely nonplause

1712
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: by any of this. He was just like, as if

1713
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: it's a normal Tuesday morning. He's like, hey, reach, I'm like,

1714
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: what's that, Muhammed. I go up to my apartment, shower off,

1715
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: come back downstairs, say goodbye to Muhammad again, walk out

1716
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: to the PT clinic, ride that elevator back up, still

1717
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: kind of stunk, roade Albert back up the second floor.

1718
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 3: I get there, I'm like, hey, I'm so sorry. I'm like,

1719
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 3: they're like, you're not late, You're right on time. My

1720
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 3: appointment was like thirty minutes later than I thought all

1721
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 3: of this could have been avoided. It was the worst

1722
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 3: day of my life. And so when you run out

1723
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 3: of stories to tell, you just tell stuff like that.

1724
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 2: You putting on another person's pants reminds me of the

1725
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

1726
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, that story

1727
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 3: forgot all about it. I took it.

1728
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: So I was. I had a prescription to Ambien for

1729
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: sleeping and it was the Super Bowl and there was

1730
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: a cold going around.

1731
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1732
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was sick. So the first couple nights

1733
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: I took meat quilte and imbian. Last thing I remember

1734
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 2: is waking up with a pair of like forty eight

1735
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 2: boxers on the outside of my bed. I'm like, what

1736
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 2: the fuck happened? I had no clue anything happened. It

1737
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: was rich Ormburger's fucking boxers. Because I got I took

1738
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 2: a piss, I was. I guess I was peeing on

1739
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 2: my door outside in the public, and they didn't think

1740
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 2: it was They didn't know I was a player, and

1741
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 2: so they had to bring me down button naked Donald

1742
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 2: duck at it. I had no underwear. I just had

1743
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 2: a T shirt on. Yeah, and rich was going up

1744
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,839
Speaker 2: and he's like, you gave me a pair of boxers.

1745
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, this guy needs underwear.

1746
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, come with me.

1747
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't even remember, Yeah, I dude, I can't tell.

1748
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 1: You how fast like all that happened. But yeah, oh

1749
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 1: I barely remember. That's so crazy. You have a good memory, dude.

1750
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 3: So much happened, like we played for three years, but

1751
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 3: if it feels like a mini lifetime there, like it's

1752
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 3: a so much, so much happened in New England during

1753
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 3: that span. It's insane.

1754
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to a segment. Let's dip into it.

1755
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: Let's go back to around December ninth, twenty twelve, Oh

1756
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 2: my gosh, and go around pop culture. Number one movie Skyfall.

1757
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 3: Never seen it.

1758
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 2: That's a James Bond. It was pretty good.

1759
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah is that uh which James? Yeah? Yeah,

1760
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 3: like Daniel Craig, I like the theme to us guy.

1761
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 2: It's like a jazzy little number number one song Gang

1762
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: Is Style by ps Wile whatever.

1763
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 4: Most huge video and all of you.

1764
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, my daughter loves his.

1765
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 1: Song, buddy. I was about to say, you have an

1766
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: eight year old daughter. I have a nine year old son,

1767
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: six year old son. We still jam gang themsel.

1768
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on the playlist for sure, for sure Sports

1769
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: twenty twelve thirteen Super Bowl champions or the Ravens.

1770
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: That was the blackout harble. That was a yeah Beyonce halftime.

1771
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: I remember that game. That was crazy. Yeah, Ravens won

1772
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 1: that year. We almost went. We lost to the Ravens.

1773
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah in the AFC Championship. H NFL VP Adrian Peterson.

1774
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 1: He's a fucking monster. Great to see that the running

1775
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,560
Speaker 1: backs are getting a little more love now. Like it

1776
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 1: so my boy, Saquon Barkley, Penn stander, dude like reborn

1777
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia?

1778
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 2: Is that reborn? I think it's a mixture of him

1779
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 2: being healthy again because the last couple of years he

1780
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: was still off that A cl and B playing with

1781
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 2: the line that actually is capable.

1782
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 3: Those guys are bad dudes there, you know.

1783
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 2: And and also the pieces around him he doesn't you know,

1784
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 2: there's a lot to try to defend on that team.

1785
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 3: When you got that tight end and Smith and Brown

1786
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 3: and Hurts is a run threat. Like, there's so much

1787
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 3: to look at and they Sirianni, I forget who their

1788
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 3: OC is in Philly.

1789
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 2: But kellout that's right, Kellen Moore.

1790
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 3: They do a pretty good job yeah.

1791
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's my only thing about Philly. I don't

1792
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: trust the leadership in the organization. I think Saquan has

1793
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 2: masked a lot of stuff.

1794
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 3: Oh dude, the whole brown hurts be if.

1795
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to run the football to win, you

1796
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, why would And it's not

1797
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: AJ's fault. It's the offensive coordinating the quarterbacks fault on

1798
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: making everyone happy. But you have to run the ball

1799
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 2: because you guys are winning.

1800
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: So quick story about the Ravens AFC championship game that

1801
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: we won in What was that?

1802
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 3: That was twenty even?

1803
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, Convetti falls right. We're all on the field,

1804
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: they're setting up the impromptu stage on the field. We're

1805
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: all hugging each other. I mean, it's tears. We're going

1806
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,799
Speaker 1: to the damn Super Bowl. I mean, this is crazy.

1807
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: I bump into this old lady. He's wearing this big

1808
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: fur coat, this mink and I'm just like, oh, I'm sorry, man.

1809
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: She goes hi, that's no problem, and I'm just like,

1810
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: that is some voice on that lady. So she wanders away.

1811
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: I'm hugging one of the one of my buddies. Offensive lineman,

1812
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: whoever it is and I turned and I face the

1813
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,919
Speaker 1: stage and it wasn't an old lady. It was Steven

1814
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: Tyler of Aerosmith. I guess he was at the game

1815
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: or in the owner's box or whatever. So he's on

1816
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: stage with the trophy presentation. Dude, look like a lady.

1817
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 3: Oh yeah he did not.

1818
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 6: He did the national anthem that game was.

1819
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just guy too.

1820
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 2: He's from Boston.

1821
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Aerosmith start out there and it looks

1822
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 3: like a lady.

1823
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 2: He really does. I like that, it really does. Trophy

1824
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 2: winner Johnny Football Alabama, the champs.

1825
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 3: Wow.

1826
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning signs with the Denver Broncos. That was crazy.

1827
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 1: That was a little nuts after the neck. Remember the

1828
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 1: Colts drafted Luck and he was like he was in

1829
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: Germany doing German things, who knows what with the neck.

1830
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: And then he comes back and he was he went,

1831
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: I mean winning that Super Bowl, noodle arm in it

1832
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: around the field with the Broncos. Yeah, they got the

1833
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 1: whole Osweiler treatment out there too.

1834
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 3: You remember that. That was a crazy year.

1835
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,480
Speaker 2: That was a very crazy year. They benched Peyton for Osweiler.

1836
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: He got hurt and then Osweiler came in and then

1837
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: they rebnched Osweiler. They were gonna go with them, and

1838
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 2: then they in the posts postseason, they went with Peyton.

1839
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 2: They went with the general and he got the damn

1840
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: thing done. You know, his arm just fell. He couldn't

1841
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 2: grip the ball because his first year in Denver, this

1842
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 2: year to fucking lit it up.

1843
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 3: Oh he lit it up.

1844
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like lead, a league leader and all

1845
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 2: this every Yeah, he was a crazy year. Also the

1846
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: bounty skin Annal bounty game. Oh my, I forget about that.

1847
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because and then there's bounty Gate and then

1848
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: also the pill scandals, which fucked up. You couldn't get

1849
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 2: anything and it ever again, do you remember the tour Yeah,

1850
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 2: you couldn't get tourt all.

1851
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 3: No, oh my god.

1852
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So for anybody who doesn't know about tourd all,

1853
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: it's like the wonder drug. It's vitamin T. Baby would

1854
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: ticket before every single game. And I mean, I guess

1855
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 1: it's like a surgical an inflammatory. So maybe it sounds

1856
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: a little reckless talking about it this way, but I

1857
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: mean it worked. He had a sprained ankle. You feel

1858
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: great for four hours, buddy, Yeah, and then you even

1859
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: had like the halo effects, the next day.

1860
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 3: The next day wasn't too He felt like shit, the

1861
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 3: worst day. You're like ever?

1862
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, walk until about Thursday and then geared up

1863
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 2: for Sunday.

1864
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 1: I won't say the name of the player, but there

1865
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: was a player who during that time. Uh yes, he

1866
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: uh well he he found uh he found us dash

1867
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: of vitamin T and he started taking cots into the

1868
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 1: stall and giving no no, no, not in New England.

1869
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, if you needed it. It was around.

1870
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: It was I mean, dude, it felt like what are

1871
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: we doing? Like, what is this the program? I mean,

1872
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: it was ridiculous.

1873
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 2: Oh, Jackie, let's get into this game. Let's talk about

1874
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 2: break Carizona Cardinals real quick. My god, I've an eleven.

1875
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 2: This was the final year of the kin Wizen Hunt era.

1876
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,719
Speaker 2: We mentioned Ken earlier. Oh Ce, Mike Miller, Mike Miller,

1877
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 2: d C. Ray Horton.

1878
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 6: Three Pro bowlers on this team, Larry Fitzderro Washington, Patrick Peterson.

1879
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 6: Uh we talked ray Horton most recently, the head coach

1880
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 6: of the Pittsburgh Mallers.

1881
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 2: Wow AFL I believe so yes? Is there an ANFL

1882
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 2: not arena that's USFL No.

1883
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 6: No, it's it's the American that was one of those

1884
01:30:56,240 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 6: defunct and then uh, Mike Miller, you be coach of

1885
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 6: the Toronto Argonauts. Of course for all our CFL heads

1886
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 6: out there, no kiddy, Yeah, good coordinators today. All right?

1887
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 2: All right? Started off hot four.

1888
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 6: And oh we went up to New England, got an

1889
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 6: upset win, first win in New England since nineteen ninety one.

1890
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 3: I remember that, dude, that was my first year in Arizona. Dude,

1891
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,640
Speaker 3: I gave them everything we had. So I left New

1892
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 3: England and Ray Horton, the defensive coordinator, He's like, what

1893
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 3: do you have for me?

1894
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm like everything. I'm like, we're gonna go out to

1895
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: Foxboro and we're gonna I'm like, they have no idea.

1896
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 3: I know everything.

1897
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 1: And so I gave them every line call, I gave

1898
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,799
Speaker 1: them every adjustment I gave them. I mean they pumped

1899
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: me like like you know, they were given gas away.

1900
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 1: It was crazy. So they they had they had you

1901
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 1: beat us the Patriots Hohle playbook. Yeah, we went out there.

1902
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: I didn't even play in this game, and I'm just

1903
01:31:53,200 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 1: on the sideline like the trap is set. So you

1904
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: think it helped, it helped. I mean it definitely. Some

1905
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: of the guys on the defense after the game were like, yeah,

1906
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 1: you were right when they whatever the line call was,

1907
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 1: when they say this, they did that, you know, whatever

1908
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was it was fun. But

1909
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 1: yeah we start off hot four and oh and then

1910
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 1: it all fell part in a big way.

1911
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 2: How do you sum this team up? How would especially

1912
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 2: you're coming from New England so you just went to

1913
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. Yeah, you go to Arizona and when

1914
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,679
Speaker 2: you're a Patriot going into another locker room, I assume

1915
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 2: I assume people are like looking at you like, oh,

1916
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 2: this fucking guy, what it was? What sum this team up?

1917
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so you made a good point there, and it's accurate.

1918
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: When you leave New England and you go elsewhere, it's

1919
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 1: kind of like the same way, like an Ivy League education,

1920
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 1: Like like there's this feeling of like, oh, like.

1921
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 2: He you Penn instead of Penn State, Right, Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah,

1922
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 2: big difference, big difference. Uh.

1923
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

1924
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: It was cool going to a new team and people

1925
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: would ask like about Bill or Tom or you or

1926
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 1: Wes or you know, as the years went on, like

1927
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, what was it like? You know, and and

1928
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 1: they just assumed like you've you've got it all figured out,

1929
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: because New England had it all figured out. So it

1930
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: wasn't like they rolled out the red carpet. But you

1931
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: would even have coaches like what would new what would

1932
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 1: the Patriots do here? Like how would they do this different?

1933
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: And like sometimes you'd make a suggestion that worked in

1934
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 1: New England, like an adjustment at the line of scrimmage

1935
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then you would see it put in

1936
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 1: the game plan. Yeah, like it was kind of wild.

1937
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: But anyways, this team, the way I would sum it

1938
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: up was injuries. We started off hot. Kevin Cobb got

1939
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 1: his lights taken out against Buffalo.

1940
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 3: They came out to Arizona and they.

1941
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 1: Beat the breaks off of us, and uh and after

1942
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 1: that beating from Buffalo, I think we lost nine straight

1943
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 1: games if I remember correctly. And somewhere in the midst

1944
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: of that was this visit to Seattle and it was

1945
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 1: a bad one. It was a really really bad outing.

1946
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 2: Oh I forgot Brian Hoyer was there. Oh yeah he

1947
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 2: so again.

1948
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: Injuries, So Kevin Cobb, John Skelton, Ryan Linley quarterbacks on

1949
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 1: that team.

1950
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 3: Later on down the road, Brian.

1951
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 1: Hoyer had to be brought in because they were like,

1952
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: we just need like warm bodies on this roster. And

1953
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 1: like Hoy Dog lived with me for a short time,

1954
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 1: like because we were camp. He was always my roommate

1955
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: in training camp during during our time together in New England.

1956
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 2: So your guys room to study formations with Hoy Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1957
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 3: There were times where in my underwear I would be

1958
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 3: snapping the ball to Hoyer and you would be running

1959
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 3: walking routes and he would throw the ball to you.

1960
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 3: In our residence, in living room, we would move the furniture. Yeah,

1961
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,560
Speaker 3: walk through, That is no bullshit. We walked through for

1962
01:34:58,680 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 3: the walk through.

1963
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just say you could always be on point

1964
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 2: because we weren't letting these motherfuckers take you down.

1965
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 3: We were so well prepared.

1966
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 6: That's the kind of behind the scenes stuff I love

1967
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 6: to hear about.

1968
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, man, Larry Fitzgerald. How cool of a

1969
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 2: fucking teammate pro, just a one pro, just like the coolest.

1970
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: Dude you could ever ask for, Like, I mean, teammate wise.

1971
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: So years later, out of a Super Bowl I was

1972
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: broadcasting from I mean, Larry Fitzgerald had no reason to

1973
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: ever remember who I was. I randomly walked up to him,

1974
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: just like, Hey, Larry, what's up.

1975
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 3: Before I was about to reintroduce myself to him, I

1976
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 3: was about to say, Hey, it's Rich Wrenberger from the

1977
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 3: twenty twelve season. Dude, I just want to say, what's up.

1978
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 3: He stops me and he goes, Rich, what's up.

1979
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 2: Man?

1980
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 3: He was and he like remembered like he.

1981
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 1: Was is a wonderful human being and like one of

1982
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: the most prepared athletes you ever met. Like he just

1983
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,719
Speaker 1: he just understood everything. Every single movement wasn't wasted.

1984
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,480
Speaker 3: He was. He was insane, mature.

1985
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 2: Big bro vibes. Yeah, because I remember I went out.

1986
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 2: I remember he used to have those during that lockout.

1987
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 2: He used to have that camp in Minnesota and in

1988
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 2: Arizona for receivers. I went out, Yeah, And I went

1989
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 2: out with Charlie Frye to the camp in Arizona just

1990
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 2: to throw at them. Yeah, and he invited me back

1991
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 2: to it. I never met him. I was a no

1992
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 2: name at the time. I was a special teamer and

1993
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 2: I went out to Arizona and he I remember, he

1994
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 2: was just the coolest dude. He's like, hey man, we

1995
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 2: were working out after the running of the routes. He goes, Hey,

1996
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 2: why don't you come over to my house. I got

1997
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 2: a pool, I'll have Chipotle cater it, We'll have some

1998
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 2: people over. It'll be awesome. Went over there. It was

1999
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 2: just the coolest fucking mature big bro that always looked out,

2000
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 2: taught you good shit, got great advice, but also just

2001
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 2: like looked out. He looked out for you. It was awesome.

2002
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 3: That was him and Arizona.

2003
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: Even though we didn't win a lot ken wizen Hunt,

2004
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: like he set the schedule where and they did a

2005
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: lot of winning under wizen Hunt in the Desert, but

2006
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 1: this year just the wheels came off, and I can't

2007
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: remember what the season's record was before that, but they

2008
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 1: ended up moving on from this whole staff after this

2009
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: five and eleven year. But he was a guy who

2010
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 1: was like at three o'clock, if anybody was still in

2011
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: the in the building, they were doing the wrong thing,

2012
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 1: Like get home. Yeah, like we're not going to live here.

2013
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna study your plays at home. We're gonna be prepared.

2014
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 1: I remember Russ Grimm, the whole Hall of Famer offensive

2015
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 1: line coach, was my offensive line coach. He was the

2016
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: same type of way like be with your family, get

2017
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,560
Speaker 1: out there, and then when time comes, you kick a

2018
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 1: ton of shit out there, and that's how we're gonna run.

2019
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 1: Like he was, they were like, it was the best

2020
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 1: quality of life I've ever had playing football, But unfortunately

2021
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 1: we just did not win a lot of games.

2022
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a fine line in the league. I mean,

2023
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 2: you look at it's it's between winning and losing is

2024
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 2: so close for an organization.

2025
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 3: The margins are slim.

2026
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 2: Margins are so slim, like they could have probably if

2027
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 2: you look at the one score games they could have

2028
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 2: been if they would have went the other way, they

2029
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 2: could have been like maybe nine and fours or six

2030
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 2: or you know what I mean. Like that's how close

2031
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,759
Speaker 2: it is. And because of the injuries that they sustained

2032
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 2: this year, I mean, that's how fucking it's like wildfire.

2033
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, we lost quarterbacks, offensive linemen,

2034
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 1: we were injured on the defense. And then then the

2035
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: blame game starts because things start going squirrely, and then

2036
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: guys get frustrated because everybody in that locker room is

2037
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 1: somewhat nuts and also on alpha, and it's like, you know,

2038
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 1: you want it perfect, you want it right, you get frustrated.

2039
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Nobody likes losing, so the culture spoiled a little bit,

2040
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 1: like it got a little ugly in spots, and it

2041
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 1: was you know, I mean it just it's unfortunate the

2042
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: way the season ended. But at least we kind of

2043
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 1: made history that year on that on on that December

2044
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 1: night in Seattle.

2045
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break, Jackie, why

2046
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 2: don't you break down the Seattle Seahawks so we can

2047
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 2: get into it.

2048
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:09,600
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

2049
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 6: Let's get into this history maker. Eleven and five Seahawks team.

2050
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 6: This was Pete Carroll, Era, Darryl Bevill, Gus Bradley. Those

2051
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 6: guys are still killing. Came the next year, I think, yes,

2052
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 6: Robert Salad was on his staff as a defensive QC guy.

2053
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 3: That's right.

2054
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 6: This was Russ's rookie year. Heck of a draft for Seattle.

2055
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 6: Bruce Irv and Bobby Wagner, Jeremy lab jesus. Yeah, that's

2056
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,759
Speaker 6: how you win super Bowls. You draft great, incredible, super

2057
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 6: talented team.

2058
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 1: Who was up front on the it was me being

2059
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 1: right defensive tackle, yep, Brandon Meban Yeah, he rich, he was,

2060
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 1: Oh he was gigantic.

2061
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:49,600
Speaker 2: He's a huge human. And he remember when we parked, No,

2062
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 2: where do you park? You know where we parked on that?

2063
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, because I don't think you were there

2064
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 2: with him. He was on the later part.

2065
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

2066
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 2: He was like a techie dude, no kidding, Like he

2067
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 2: liked I think he liked video games or he may

2068
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 2: have liked like anime or dude would get up. He

2069
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 2: would go from the parking lot and he had an

2070
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 2: electric skateboard and he would electric skateboard from the parking

2071
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 2: lot just to just to the door door and then

2072
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 2: he'd be scooting this thing in and out. He would

2073
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 2: do it in the hallway.

2074
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 3: Oh so, oh buddy, those hallways in New England uncomfortably long.

2075
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 2: Oh, very uncomfortably long.

2076
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is gonna sound super weird, but we

2077
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 1: have to take this tangent. There are no doors on

2078
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 1: many of the corridors in the New England facility. So

2079
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: like if there is a coach, like especially Bill, walking

2080
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 1: down one end of the hallway and you're walking down

2081
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 1: the other.

2082
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 3: Twenty five yards dude, yeah, like a long walk. Wow,

2083
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:52,720
Speaker 3: you're just like what do you do with your eyes? All?

2084
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 3: My gosh? I mean, imagine how uncomfortable, and he was.

2085
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 3: He never had a cell phone in his hand, and

2086
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 3: he would stare through your skull like as if you

2087
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 3: were an apparition and you're just in the way from

2088
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 3: his I don't know, is waffles or whatever the hell

2089
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 3: he's walking to the lunch room to get dude, And

2090
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 3: then he would he would either you were like, is

2091
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 3: he gonna stop me? Or is he gonna walk past me?

2092
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: He never knew, and then at like like maybe five yards,

2093
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: he would say like hey, and then you would have

2094
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 1: to stop because he's addressed you.

2095
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 3: Now he'd be like, hey, coach, how's it going.

2096
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: You have to pretend like you weren't just like sweating

2097
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 1: this conversation the whole time, and he would like compliment, criticism, question,

2098
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 1: whatever it was. As soon as it over, you're just like, oh,

2099
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: thank god, and you would just keep walking. And it's

2100
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 1: not because he's an unpleasant man, No, he was just

2101
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,799
Speaker 1: in control of your whole world at that point.

2102
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 2: And he had an aura around him.

2103
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:53,799
Speaker 3: Yes, he did like it. How could you just felt

2104
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,679
Speaker 3: it when he came in the room. Everyone knew, yes,

2105
01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 3: Like even if your back was turned to the orwin knew.

2106
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 3: It was like there was a disturbance in the forest.

2107
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 3: You were like, oh my god, he's here. I tell

2108
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 3: a story that I was. He caught me there late

2109
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 3: night once. Hey, you know I used to go when

2110
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 3: I first got there. You went to Penn State, so

2111
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 3: you had great facilities and shit, I went to Kent.

2112
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 3: I used to go to the locker room and get

2113
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 3: all these free gator age shakes and stuff at New

2114
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:21,719
Speaker 3: England and hang out in the tubs.

2115
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 2: I never had that stuff in my life. That's why

2116
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 2: I was always there, Like Sawna. I thought it was

2117
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 2: fucking cool with that. I go there off season and

2118
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 2: Bill's there and we got caught in the hallway together.

2119
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 2: First off, he went bare knuckleberry in the hot tub

2120
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 2: while I was in there.

2121
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: I remember you telling that story. I couldn't believe it.

2122
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 1: Like he is the problem at the YMCA locker room.

2123
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 1: We got it out, just balls out, just like, hey,

2124
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: deal with it, buddy. I'm comfortable in my own skin,

2125
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,560
Speaker 1: and now we're gonna make Belichick soup together. But we

2126
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 1: got caught in that hallway walking together.

2127
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 3: Oh so it was worse.

2128
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,679
Speaker 2: Yes, you know how they're buddy, You know how there'd

2129
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,759
Speaker 2: be a couple alleyways that would come where you wouldn't

2130
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 2: see what was at the thing until you got there.

2131
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 2: You just so happened to go at the same time

2132
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 2: and your lockstep, lockstep to the fucking parking lot at

2133
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock at night in March.

2134
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 1: Dude, I would have been like, forgot my cues, got

2135
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 1: a bail. I mean, I would have came up with

2136
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 1: some excuse, ship my bands, I gotta run whatever it was.

2137
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 3: I didn't know what to do. What was that conversation?

2138
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 2: So we didn't have a conversation.

2139
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 3: My god, this is the problem. So we walked out

2140
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 3: and by the time we got.

2141
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 2: Thirty five yards yeah, and then another probably twenty five

2142
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 2: yards of cement to the parking lot.

2143
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 3: We got there.

2144
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 2: Finally we're going different direction. I'd go coach Man, pretty

2145
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 2: crazy that you're here on March, you know, at eleven

2146
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 2: o'clock at night. It's pretty cool.

2147
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2148
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 2: He looked at me, he goes, it beats being a plumber.

2149
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 2: I'll see it tomorrow, and that was it. Jaculates kid

2150
01:43:59,200 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 2: in the game.

2151
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 6: All right, quick little lead up. This is a rematch

2152
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 6: from week one cards beat him Round. We're looking for

2153
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 6: Seattle's looking for some revenge or No Baby started out?

2154
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we start hot, yeah, yeah.

2155
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 6: Fast forward here, cards are on an eight game losing streak.

2156
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 6: Seattle's hunting for a playoff spot. There's still seven and five,

2157
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 6: Arizona's four and eight here, and we're heading up to

2158
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 6: Seattle here.

2159
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 2: Now, when did you know this is gonna be ugly? Oh?

2160
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 1: Oh, right out the gate, right out the gate. I'm

2161
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 1: trying to remember who started for us. I think it

2162
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 1: was John Skelton, Yes, I think it was, and then

2163
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 1: and Linley got time though, because either John got injured

2164
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 1: in this game, our quarterback, yes, and then Ryan Linley

2165
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 1: had to come in, or or they benched.

2166
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 3: I forget how it went. Whatever the situation was, it

2167
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 3: was not going well right out the.

2168
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Gates, and so what made matters worse was I think

2169
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 1: it was after halftime. I'm fairly certain it was during

2170
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: one of the plays we're trying into Actually time, it's

2171
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 1: thirty eight zero, dude, it's I mean, it is out

2172
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: of hand. We are getting it fed to us right now.

2173
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 3: It's bad.

2174
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: So we leave the tunnel and the planet's like all right,

2175
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 1: first half, So it's the second half. Lot effort, gang,

2176
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 1: go get them and it's just like what are we

2177
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 1: doing here?

2178
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 3: Like, So we we go out there, and you would think,

2179
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 3: like Seattle would like call off the dogs a little bit.

2180
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 1: They're still coming. They're like they're they're trying now, they're

2181
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 1: trying to pile up some stats on us, and like defensively,

2182
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 1: they're still really giving us some good effort. So we're

2183
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 1: running an inside zone, which you know, it's just a gap.

2184
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a scheme where you're stepping to

2185
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 1: the gap adjacent to you and you're working up to

2186
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 1: the next level or blocking the down lineman in that gap.

2187
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 1: So I'm the center, snap the ball to Linley, I think,

2188
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: and I hit the defensive tackle or the nose, I

2189
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 1: think it was Mebane And then whoever was blocking the

2190
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 1: three technique, the defensive tackle to my right dumped them

2191
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 1: on my right knee and I completely tear my mcattle

2192
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 1: And so I'm down on the turf and I gotta

2193
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:06,799
Speaker 1: get walked off by the training staff.

2194
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 3: I go into the locker room. My night's over.

2195
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 1: I go on the table right next to a TV

2196
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 1: so I could watch. There's a close circuit camera going on,

2197
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 1: you know, from the TV feed, and they're showing a

2198
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 1: close up of Linley and the backup center I won't

2199
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 1: name his name, doing some center quarterback exchange to get

2200
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 1: warmed up to go in there, and they fumble two

2201
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 1: snaps on the sideline. I'm like, oh shit, this is

2202
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 1: not gonna go well. So they go out to the field.

2203
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 1: The very first snap was a fumbled snap, and I

2204
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 1: think Seattle dove on it, and I'm pretty sure the

2205
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 1: very next time we touched the football they fumble another

2206
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: snap or something goes off like, you know, he snaps

2207
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 1: one over his head. Whatever it was, it was going poorly.

2208
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: So I say, practice here. No, No, this was a

2209
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,800
Speaker 1: very different culture. And so there was this trainer who

2210
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: had this giant shaw on his cheek. His name was

2211
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 1: the Machine. We called a machine in Arizona. I was like, hey, Machine,

2212
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: have you ever taped a knee back together?

2213
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 3: Is that possible?

2214
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 1: And he goes, we could give it a shot, spits

2215
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 1: and then puts a brace and tape and he's like

2216
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 1: wrapping my knee up.

2217
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 3: And then I start jogging around in the training room

2218
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I think I could play on this.

2219
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 1: And then I kind of get out into the tunnel

2220
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 1: and I'm going back and forth. I'm like, yeah, I'm like,

2221
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: I think I could go back in there because I'm

2222
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 1: worried that because I like, I like Ryan and like

2223
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 1: you gotta be a little nuts to play football. I'm like,

2224
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,599
Speaker 1: I gotta protect that guy. I feel bad he's working.

2225
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: So I get back on the field. We are now

2226
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 1: trailing forty something to nothing, and I go back on

2227
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 1: the field in the third quarter with the football guy

2228
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: to finish out this game. And I mean, I am

2229
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:54,680
Speaker 1: in more pain than I think I've ever been in.

2230
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this knee is no good.

2231
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 3: It is shot.

2232
01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm standing on nothing. It's welling, swelling. I mean, it

2233
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 1: feels like I'm getting no push off of it. And

2234
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 1: so at some point into the fourth quarter, I say

2235
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 1: to Mebane, I'm so curious if he remembers this conversation.

2236
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, buddy, I'm like, I'm in a lot of pain.

2237
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think this knee is like broken in half.

2238
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, could we just dance for the rest of

2239
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 1: the game. He's like, I got you, big dog, and

2240
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,640
Speaker 1: so me and anytime I had a block, hum, we

2241
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 1: just made it look like we.

2242
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 3: Were yeah in a game. Oh dude. The coolest dude.

2243
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 1: I love him for it, and so I am fairly

2244
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 1: certain the fifty eight nothing final because I got yanked

2245
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 1: before then this game. Russ grim My offensive Wine coach

2246
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 1: was like, buddy, you're done, like like he was, I'm like, no,

2247
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 1: I can still go. And he pointed at the scoreboard.

2248
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:48,600
Speaker 1: He goes, the war's over, the battle's over. He's like,

2249
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 1: they may shut us down before the season's over.

2250
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 3: And I'm like, my god.

2251
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 1: So he pulled me out of a game, and that

2252
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 1: was my last game of the season. I was on

2253
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:02,719
Speaker 1: ir for the rest of the year. But man alive, dude,

2254
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 1: it was. It was just I'm fairly certain that fifty

2255
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 1: eight nothing is tied for third all time, the worst

2256
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 1: shutout beating in the history of the league.

2257
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 3: And I was there. I mean, he was there for

2258
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 3: it all. Yeah, I mean that there was some correct

2259
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 3: on that stat.

2260
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 6: Rich number one. Two thousand and nine Patriots Titans fifty

2261
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 6: nine nothing.

2262
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was a snow game.

2263
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 6: Snow nineteen seventy six Rams Falcons fifty nine nothing.

2264
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

2265
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 2: Twenty twelve fifty eight nothing.

2266
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2267
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 6: First, Arizona at a little piece in that game, forty

2268
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 6: eight nothing.

2269
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:41,759
Speaker 2: You come back in that's a it was what's lost

2270
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 2: like that?

2271
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 3: I mean, eager to get drunk on the plane.

2272
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean, what is left? You've lost what eight straight?

2273
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 1: At that point? We lost the ninth one that night

2274
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 1: and then I think.

2275
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:54,719
Speaker 6: We actually beat was it the Bears, the Lions?

2276
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:57,680
Speaker 1: The Lions? That's what NFC North, this is what we

2277
01:49:57,760 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 1: were doing. We're like, we're just a crummy football team,

2278
01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:02,160
Speaker 1: Like this is how it works. Now, we go out,

2279
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 1: we get just our shit kicked, and we get back

2280
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 1: on the plane. Like it was bad, but you get

2281
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 1: used to it somehow.

2282
01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 6: It sounds dumb, but like it's almost like how do

2283
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 6: you getting that win after nine straight losses? It's kind

2284
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:15,639
Speaker 6: of like, how does that even happen?

2285
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 2: I am?

2286
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 1: It just goes to show you how bad the Lions

2287
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 1: have been over the years. I mean, what Dan Campbell

2288
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:27,799
Speaker 1: has done is nothing short of like a miracle, because

2289
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean Detroit, Holy shit, talk about a franchise that

2290
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 1: has not been able to get out of their own

2291
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 1: way since what Reagan was in office.

2292
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 2: I mean now ever, yeah, I mean not Reagan. It'd

2293
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 2: be more who's in the forties Eisenhower. Yeah, that was

2294
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 2: when games were on the radio. Yeah, well they didn't

2295
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 2: win Super Bowl. They win championships in the forty six.

2296
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 3: Good lord. I like Dan Campbell, I do too, but.

2297
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:59,719
Speaker 2: He's he's floating a little too much. Yeah, reckless aggressive. Yeah,

2298
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:04,440
Speaker 2: your team's not a team that has to buy possessions

2299
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,919
Speaker 2: now because you don't have talent. You have to evolve

2300
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 2: your play style.

2301
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 3: Now.

2302
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 2: I don't I don't mind the last fourth down of

2303
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 2: last week, but it was the four or three drives

2304
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 2: before where he went forward in his own territory. When

2305
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 2: like that, that against Andy Reid and Mahomes, against a

2306
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 2: team that can control the game, that'll that'll burn you,

2307
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 2: and they're at the they're at the point now where

2308
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 2: it's Super Bowl or bust because of the success they've

2309
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:35,759
Speaker 2: attained this year and the talent they've accumulated.

2310
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:38,560
Speaker 3: Over the last few years. So like that's how I

2311
01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 3: evaluate them now. I think it's fair. I think he's

2312
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 3: honestly created the best team in the NFL. I mean,

2313
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 3: if and the.

2314
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 2: GM and the carryover parts of you know, Matt Patricia

2315
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 2: hired Ben Johnson, that's exactly you know. I mean, there's

2316
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of guys. This thing, like once again

2317
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 2: is a perfect storm and it has to be. That's

2318
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:02,679
Speaker 2: how crazy the National Football leagues. A lot of things

2319
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 2: have to happen for you to attain success.

2320
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 1: Well, and just think, like say Ben Johnson does accept

2321
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:11,519
Speaker 1: the commander's job, does that offense look the same this year?

2322
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 3: And the answer is no. You know, I mean, just

2323
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,560
Speaker 3: one decision this offseason could have changed the fate and

2324
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:20,760
Speaker 3: fortune of every single person in that franchise forever. But

2325
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 3: he stays golf.

2326
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:27,759
Speaker 1: Has consistency in the headset, Montgomery and Gibbs stay healthy,

2327
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 1: They've got weapons on the outside.

2328
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:34,040
Speaker 2: I mean that defense. Losing Aiden Hutchinson's still the thing

2329
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 2: that scares me. I don't know if they're going to

2330
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 2: because you look at the teams that are going to

2331
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 2: be coming from the AFC, and then you look at

2332
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 2: the upper echelon teams in the NFC, which they're going

2333
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 2: to have to get to the Super Bowl through. Every

2334
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:50,639
Speaker 2: team can run the football, yeah, and all of a sudden,

2335
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 2: those football if you could run the football on them

2336
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 2: and it sustained long drives, you keep the offense off

2337
01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 2: and then you put them in, you make them play

2338
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 2: the way they don't want to play from behind, and

2339
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 2: then once they play from behind. I'm still not sold

2340
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:07,640
Speaker 2: on the drop back pass game of Ben Johnson and

2341
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,759
Speaker 2: Jared Goff. When you're from ahead and things are rolling,

2342
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 2: they are dangerous. So the only quarterback in that system

2343
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 2: that has had success, there's been a couple in the

2344
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 2: West Coast. Matthew Stafford, who started in a back drop

2345
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:25,560
Speaker 2: back pass game for fucking his first nine years of

2346
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 2: his career, knows how to play from behind, and Aaron Rodgers.

2347
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 2: Those are like the two guys that are in that

2348
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 2: West Coast scheme that can play from behind.

2349
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 3: It's it's a well primed as yeah, yeah, like a.

2350
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 1: Well founded point because if also like look at for example,

2351
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:47,599
Speaker 1: like the the Ravens, right, they they're a good comp

2352
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 1: because Lamar Jackson's so dynamic that I think it hides

2353
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 1: a lot of what they do poorly. But when they trail,

2354
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 1: I mean they're front runners, like they're they're bullies. They

2355
01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 1: want to play with the lead. John Harbaugh aggressive Dan

2356
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 1: Campbell on some of these you know, two point conversion decisions,

2357
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 1: fourth down decision making, and you can be a bully

2358
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 1: like that when you're playing with the lead and you

2359
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 1: can preserve possessions and things like that. But get behind,

2360
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:14,759
Speaker 1: make one mistake like that, don't get the two points,

2361
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 1: don't get that fourth down. Give the Chiefs the ball

2362
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 1: deep in your own territory. I mean, give the Bills

2363
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 1: the way they're playing right now, but playing right back.

2364
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 1: You guys are really hammered. Seasons over golf, ships are planned.

2365
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, uh should we put a bow in this game?

2366
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 2: Fifty eight to nothing?

2367
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 6: The only game in NFL history to end with the

2368
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 6: score fifty eight to nothing.

2369
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 2: Score score a gami baby, that's some history.

2370
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 6: Four hundred ninety three total yards for Seattle, eight turnovers

2371
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 6: for the Cards to one for Seattle.

2372
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 2: I mean that's how the position was pretty cool.

2373
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 6: Possession was close thirty four to twenty twenty five, so

2374
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 6: we got some things going there.

2375
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 2: But aftermath, we got to score this after math.

2376
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 6: Real quick, Rich goes on ir. As we mentioned earlier,

2377
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 6: this would be the third largest blood in NFL history.

2378
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 6: Seattle would go on to finish eleven and five, second

2379
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 6: the NFC West, losing to Atlanta in the divisional round.

2380
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 6: The Cards would finish five and eleven, losing eleven of

2381
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 6: their last twelve. WHI should be the last one of

2382
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 6: the GM Rodgrave era Cardinals would hire Bruce Arians the

2383
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 6: next season and bring in Carson Palmer drew one to

2384
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 6: sign with the Chargers the next season, and the Seahawks

2385
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 6: would then go on to win the Super Bowl forty

2386
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 6: eight the next year.

2387
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 2: You guys catapulted the Seahawks' confidence to get over the

2388
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 2: hump the next year and become the legion of Boom,

2389
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 2: therefore to lose to us the following year.

2390
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2391
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty proud of that accomplishment. If I get

2392
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 1: we're kind of like a slumpbuster.

2393
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 3: H that's great.

2394
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 2: Slumpbuster. I used that a couple of days ago. The Foks.

2395
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, dude, Yeah, that was That was a

2396
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 1: slobber knocker. We took one, but you know what, the

2397
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: story wasn't over after that. Continued on and uh and

2398
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 1: and found my way to San Diego and that's home now.

2399
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 2: So can't complain, right, Everything happens for a reason. Yeah, man,

2400
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 2: what's your favorite all time NFL moment in your career?

2401
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 1: A really cool one was Cincinnati Bengals. We're in Cincinnati

2402
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen seasons, so my first year with the Chargers,

2403
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 1: we're playing in Cincinnati that January, so it was twenty

2404
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 1: fourteen postseason and Nick Hardwick goes down. You got he

2405
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 1: actually got hit by Raymond Luga. Who is you know

2406
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: he's met Mike Linebacker with Cincinnati mean a banger, I mean,

2407
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 1: just a heavy headed dude. He would just lay people out.

2408
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 1: And so yeah, yeah, I mean so it came full

2409
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 1: circle a little bit there. So Nick goes down. I'm

2410
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,760
Speaker 1: the backup center. I go in and it's like fourteen

2411
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 1: plays into the game. And I ended up seeing the

2412
01:56:56,920 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 1: TV copy years later at the A frigat get the

2413
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 1: crew who is working the game.

2414
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:04,040
Speaker 3: But they were like, oh, this is not good. Nick Hardwick,

2415
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl center.

2416
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 2: Who's this guy?

2417
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:07,879
Speaker 3: Rich Hornberger? This is gonna be a disaster.

2418
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 1: But I go out there and uh and we we

2419
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 1: run the ball all the way down the Bengals next,

2420
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean Ronnie Brown, we got him in the zone.

2421
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 1: We had Ryan Matthews going off. He's like yeah, dude,

2422
01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And and I remember getting back to the

2423
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 1: locker room after that game. I had no idea that

2424
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 1: the commentators were talking about me as much as they.

2425
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 1: I had a thousand text messages, like my phone had

2426
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 1: lit up, and everybody from you know, my high school

2427
01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 1: football coach over at East Meadow High Vinnie Massia or

2428
01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 1: Ed Claven but buddy yeah, or or Steve Anderson or

2429
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:51,640
Speaker 1: Justin swide Kowski or Mike Simone or Rich Howard. All

2430
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 1: my high school got, you know, all my college buddies,

2431
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 1: a Q Shipley and you know the like because the

2432
01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 1: whole world's watching the playoffs, like you know, all of

2433
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 1: the past teammates from my career, like anybody who had

2434
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 1: my number, it felt like reached out to me because

2435
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,320
Speaker 1: it was one of those moments where for a second,

2436
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:11,880
Speaker 1: like I did something really important, and like I said,

2437
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 1: I knew I was talented enough to play in this league,

2438
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 1: but I was always hurt.

2439
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 3: I was always too hurt to play.

2440
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 1: And when I got these opportunities, I kept, you know,

2441
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 1: having something go wrong. And I was healthy enough and

2442
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, I was always well prepared.

2443
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 3: And Nick went down, I went in, We got the

2444
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:32,200
Speaker 3: dub and it was onto Denver for the divisional round.

2445
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 3: After that we won that wildcard game, and it was

2446
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:36,040
Speaker 3: just one of those moments.

2447
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 1: It's like it truly felt year five, I'm like, oh,

2448
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 1: if I can stay healthy, I can play a long

2449
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:42,400
Speaker 1: time in this league.

2450
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 3: And I couldn't stay healthy. Tool. I exited after the

2451
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen season only a year later. It's fucking tough, man. Yeah,

2452
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 3: it is that.

2453
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 2: I remember that feeling because we experienced playoff games that

2454
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 2: we weren't really involved in as much when we were

2455
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 2: with the Patriots. Yeah, and then you know, you have

2456
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:05,959
Speaker 2: you know, I can experience. I remember that first experience

2457
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 2: of contributing to a playoff win. Nothing nothing feels like

2458
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 2: that because a group of guys all been working their

2459
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 2: dicks off for fucking eight months and it's do or

2460
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 2: die time, and you guys go out and you fucking

2461
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 2: win and you dealt with all the bullshit. There's been

2462
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 2: some problem that you had to overcome earlier in that season,

2463
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:31,480
Speaker 2: and it is very hard to win in this league. Yeah,

2464
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 2: to go out and do in the playoffs, man, that's

2465
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:34,400
Speaker 2: fucking awesome.

2466
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 3: It's the best. It is, absolutely is.

2467
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 2: Let's name the game now. These are some of the

2468
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 2: names we came up with. You can also chime in

2469
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 2: if you want. We got the slaughter in Seattle, scoreless

2470
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:53,440
Speaker 2: in Seattle, the Seattle Stinker, the pathetic performance in the

2471
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest, or fifty eight zero, or if you have

2472
01:59:57,560 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 2: any suggestion, Seattle Steamer.

2473
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 3: Anything related to just a dog shit performance. It was.

2474
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:06,080
Speaker 6: It was bad.

2475
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:10,920
Speaker 1: It was I you know what, the let's see Sattle

2476
02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 1: stinkers scoreless in Seattle.

2477
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 4: Thank god you picked that one, because yes.

2478
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 2: In Seattle. I like that.

2479
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 3: It's perfect.

2480
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:20,840
Speaker 6: It's perfect.

2481
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 3: Score the game.

2482
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:24,840
Speaker 2: Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it.

2483
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:30,600
Speaker 2: Rich Ornberger steaks zero to ten on the Week fourteen

2484
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 2: game between a team that is not going to make

2485
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:38,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs and another team that may not make the playoffs.

2486
02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 2: Stakes in this game decimal is okay?

2487
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 3: Okay?

2488
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean can we can we go less than zero?

2489
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, like they knew they were going

2490
02:00:46,640 --> 02:00:48,920
Speaker 1: to beat us. We knew they were gonna beat us.

2491
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 1: This had there was absolutely no way we were leaving

2492
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:55,600
Speaker 1: Seattle with a dub. So I'm gonna give it.

2493
02:00:55,680 --> 02:01:01,240
Speaker 3: A zero point one the first in our be fair.

2494
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:03,680
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to say. It was terrible.

2495
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:09,040
Speaker 2: That's a score of gami. I'm gonna go with I'm

2496
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 2: gonna go with the two because even though there's no

2497
02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 2: relevance to this game, yeah, there's still players that even

2498
02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:20,480
Speaker 2: when you're on these types of team, you can put

2499
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:22,800
Speaker 2: film out there and they're playing for ship and it's

2500
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:24,840
Speaker 2: still the National fool. Everyone's still getting paid.

2501
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 3: So it's two point.

2502
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 2: I went with a three to seven here divisional game.

2503
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah.

2504
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:32,880
Speaker 2: The star power of this game were you guys on

2505
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:35,320
Speaker 2: your your six string quarterback boy?

2506
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, who were you? I think third string? We started

2507
02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 3: with our second I would say the star power was

2508
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 3: mainly on the side of Seattle. They had a loaded

2509
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 3: up squad.

2510
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:49,080
Speaker 2: This is they were, they were they were cooking something

2511
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:49,480
Speaker 2: over there.

2512
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 3: They were cooking something. We had Larry Fitz Hall of Famer,

2513
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 3: Klais Campbell. Campbell, dude, that's still playing, Like what on?

2514
02:01:58,000 --> 02:01:58,960
Speaker 2: It was crazy?

2515
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 3: Klais is he with Miami this year? I mean, and

2516
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:06,720
Speaker 3: he's good. Yeah, Like, like I can't believe. I'm gonna say,

2517
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:11,200
Speaker 3: give us a solid seven and a half. I would

2518
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:13,640
Speaker 3: say seven and a half sounds fair. Seven, I'll go seven.

2519
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:23,720
Speaker 3: The highest opinion of the gameplay of the game zero

2520
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:26,040
Speaker 3: to ten. How the game went, I mean, I think

2521
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:27,640
Speaker 3: there was a there's a lot of turnovers.

2522
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:31,320
Speaker 2: There was a strip between the you know fits or

2523
02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:35,480
Speaker 2: the bibble there's that, there's the hens turn From gameplay,

2524
02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 2: it was sloppy, sloppy, extra sloppy. It was Yeah, I

2525
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:40,960
Speaker 2: didn't know how you like him?

2526
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 3: You boys, you boy said you're shoppy jokes.

2527
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a it's a two, it's a that's

2528
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,840
Speaker 1: a two. That was an That was a disgusting watch.

2529
02:02:50,920 --> 02:02:53,640
Speaker 1: I actually feel bad for anybody who showed up or

2530
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:56,120
Speaker 1: watched at home. Maybe I should start like a gofund

2531
02:02:56,200 --> 02:02:57,240
Speaker 1: me and refund people.

2532
02:02:57,800 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 3: That was awful.

2533
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:03,120
Speaker 2: I'll go there is some exciting ship for the Seattle Seahawks.

2534
02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:06,040
Speaker 2: Three three, I might there with you.

2535
02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:08,200
Speaker 4: One point six almost a perfect game for one half

2536
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:08,640
Speaker 4: of the field.

2537
02:03:08,680 --> 02:03:10,760
Speaker 2: Now, hey, the name of the game, you gotta score

2538
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:11,360
Speaker 2: the name of the game.

2539
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:11,720
Speaker 3: This is good.

2540
02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 1: This is good name scoreless in Seattle. I mean that

2541
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:21,280
Speaker 1: is I'll have what she's having. Give me an eight

2542
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 1: out of ten that whoever came up with that kudos.

2543
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:24,840
Speaker 3: I'll take.

2544
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:26,480
Speaker 2: I'll give it an eight as well.

2545
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:30,960
Speaker 6: Somewhere Nora Efron's watching this episode like, yes, yeah, I'm

2546
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:32,720
Speaker 6: gonna go with nine point.

2547
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:36,200
Speaker 4: Four point four Jack. If this isn't our last game.

2548
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah, what is it?

2549
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:43,760
Speaker 6: Equalating calculating ai more point eight five?

2550
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 2: What does that go?

2551
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:47,800
Speaker 5: Oh, it's not the last game, it's our second to

2552
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:52,080
Speaker 5: last game. It's seventy seventh overall. It's just below the

2553
02:03:52,120 --> 02:03:57,440
Speaker 5: twenty fourteen TBT Final Barstool versus the Notre Dame Alumni,

2554
02:03:58,040 --> 02:03:59,000
Speaker 5: and just above.

2555
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:00,960
Speaker 4: The twenty twelve AFC.

2556
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:07,360
Speaker 2: God, oh my god, that's not ideal. Did the Pro

2557
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:08,360
Speaker 2: Bowl he got MVP?

2558
02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, the top eighty is pretty good. Rumor

2559
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 3: has this.

2560
02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:15,400
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm in the charts.

2561
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:16,960
Speaker 3: I'm the charts. Rich.

2562
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 2: We miss anything? No, dude, that's uh, you got it

2563
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:22,000
Speaker 2: all right there. I appreciate you coming on.

2564
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:22,480
Speaker 3: Everyone.

2565
02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:26,360
Speaker 2: Go check out Rich on Countdown to kick Off, which

2566
02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:30,600
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio, San Diego Sports

2567
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:35,360
Speaker 2: seven sixty, the one oh one point five KGB Big Rich,

2568
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:40,440
Speaker 2: TD and Fletch Show, The Red Zone Radio Show which

2569
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 2: you could see Red Zone Rich Fox Sports Radio, which

2570
02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:46,720
Speaker 2: we already hit that. Uh, he calls San Diego State games.

2571
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 2: Check him out. He's kind of like the Bill Walton

2572
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:53,240
Speaker 2: of that that calling color you know what I mean.

2573
02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:55,960
Speaker 2: I always remember Late Night RP Man.

2574
02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:59,120
Speaker 3: Oh god, I met him so many times because he

2575
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:00,480
Speaker 3: lived in Sandy. Oh.

2576
02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 2: I love Bill Wali.

2577
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 1: Actually only one time, I really like we were in

2578
02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:11,480
Speaker 1: conversation for like a while. Every every other time was

2579
02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:13,240
Speaker 1: like we're at events together, just passing by.

2580
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:16,080
Speaker 3: What's up, Bill, are you doing? But I shake his hand.

2581
02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm in the owner's box at a Padres game. Peter

2582
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 1: Seidler rest in peace as well. He was a buddy.

2583
02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 1: He was the former owner of the Pods. And so

2584
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:28,720
Speaker 1: Walton's in the booth in the box. I'm in the box.

2585
02:05:29,080 --> 02:05:30,840
Speaker 1: I walk up to him, be like, Bill, what's up, man,

2586
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:33,360
Speaker 1: It's good to see again. And that was the last

2587
02:05:33,440 --> 02:05:37,040
Speaker 1: words I spoke for forty five minutes. I'm not even

2588
02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:40,280
Speaker 1: kidding you. I missed seven innings of baseball. I think

2589
02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:42,720
Speaker 1: it was unbelievable. It was like it was no it

2590
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:45,000
Speaker 1: was like the third inning, and then I got to

2591
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 1: watch like the bottom of the seventh.

2592
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 3: It was unreal, I mean. And we got into also.

2593
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: He was telling me about you know, uh, National Parks,

2594
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:58,920
Speaker 1: and we we talked about Sequoia's like the trees.

2595
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:01,240
Speaker 3: Long time City.

2596
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2597
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:03,400
Speaker 3: I still haven't seen one in person, but I can

2598
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:06,000
Speaker 3: tell you after that conversation, I don't need to. I

2599
02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:12,120
Speaker 3: know everything about Sequoias. Awesome. Well, Rich is like.

2600
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 2: Riches like Bill Walton when he calls game, very entertaining.

2601
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:23,360
Speaker 2: Analyst on NBC Sports in Sandy. This guy works everything, guys,

2602
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, and you got to check him out

2603
02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:29,880
Speaker 2: on all his social media's at rich Ormberger O h

2604
02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:34,680
Speaker 2: R n B e r g e R. I don't

2605
02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 2: know how to spell that, so I don't know if

2606
02:06:36,320 --> 02:06:37,720
Speaker 2: you guys know how to spell them. But I also

2607
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:41,760
Speaker 2: can't read that well. So rich Ormberger on socials. Rich,

2608
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:45,880
Speaker 2: thanks Bro, I appreciate you, Thanks Jules, thank you guys.

2609
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:50,640
Speaker 2: Gosh Ormburger can talk. He lived up to the hype.

2610
02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:52,360
Speaker 2: My guy can some stories.

2611
02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 4: More Lineman more.

2612
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:57,919
Speaker 2: This is a Lineman loving podcast. I love a satirist

2613
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:02,800
Speaker 2: Lineman an l l P ll P ll P. Li'm

2614
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:06,040
Speaker 2: in loving podcast. Let's get onto our post post game second.

2615
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 2: What do we got NFL comedy casting? I like this.

2616
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:13,920
Speaker 2: We have a selection of all the comic roles and

2617
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 2: we're going to cast them with different NFL players according

2618
02:07:19,160 --> 02:07:21,240
Speaker 2: to which one we think they are. I like this

2619
02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 2: or something like that casting here, let's get after it.

2620
02:07:24,440 --> 02:07:27,680
Speaker 2: Call it comedic roles, comedic roles in the NFL.

2621
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:30,839
Speaker 4: Who would be the best stand up comedian?

2622
02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:32,760
Speaker 3: Stand up?

2623
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:36,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean Pat McAfee did do stand up McAfee,

2624
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:39,240
Speaker 2: that's true, damn smart. I mean Ormburger did stand up.

2625
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:40,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about it with him.

2626
02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 6: We're talking like a half hour set here.

2627
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe the tight here's probably some guys that the

2628
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:50,120
Speaker 2: thing about what's going to be hard about this? Usually

2629
02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:53,800
Speaker 2: the funniest some of the funniest guys aren't known guys, right,

2630
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:54,520
Speaker 2: you know.

2631
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:58,760
Speaker 6: On Herald like Ormberger, right, the average the average fan

2632
02:07:58,880 --> 02:07:59,480
Speaker 6: might not know Rich.

2633
02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, he's hilarious. Bubba van Trone. Uh,

2634
02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 2: he was like the suburban poet. Like, we had guys

2635
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 2: that were just fucking They used to write these poems

2636
02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:14,800
Speaker 2: like once every few weeks Bill when the team where

2637
02:08:14,840 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 2: I was down, Bill would have him write a poem.

2638
02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:21,240
Speaker 2: And you have these slapstick humor poems that were like

2639
02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:25,800
Speaker 2: theme throughout the fucking season, like like we gotta you know,

2640
02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:30,280
Speaker 2: we block a punt. He'd like, and yes there was

2641
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 2: a punt that you know, like they would drop it,

2642
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:36,240
Speaker 2: like don't make us run up that hill? Oh yeah,

2643
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:40,520
Speaker 2: but he would perform it. He put on some glass.

2644
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:41,120
Speaker 3: It was fun.

2645
02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:45,280
Speaker 2: So stand up comic. Who's the best stand up comic

2646
02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:50,920
Speaker 2: out of NFL players? And Kelsey would be good.

2647
02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 3: He'd be good. Jason.

2648
02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:57,200
Speaker 5: Oh, Jason, Jason, Jason Kelsey, Jason, He's got the late

2649
02:08:57,320 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 5: night show.

2650
02:08:58,000 --> 02:08:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jason Kelsey.

2651
02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:00,640
Speaker 4: Would be I love that.

2652
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:01,160
Speaker 3: I like that.

2653
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:02,040
Speaker 2: Let's let's put him.

2654
02:09:02,520 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 3: I think.

2655
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:07,240
Speaker 2: I think Jason Kelsey's funny and I bet and he's

2656
02:09:07,240 --> 02:09:10,120
Speaker 2: a smart fucking dude. I watch him on on all

2657
02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:11,200
Speaker 2: all this TV stuff.

2658
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:13,800
Speaker 6: I gotta say, his suit game and his fit game.

2659
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:16,600
Speaker 6: He comes correct every week Monday Night. He's got the

2660
02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:19,600
Speaker 6: Texas City and like whatever he's in, go to bars.

2661
02:09:19,640 --> 02:09:23,040
Speaker 6: I already was down here in Santa Monica. Next category,

2662
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:26,320
Speaker 6: the buddy comedy partner.

2663
02:09:26,440 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 2: Now, I like this. This is a duo here.

2664
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:32,480
Speaker 6: It takes a special duo with some chemistry.

2665
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 3: And kittles in there.

2666
02:09:36,440 --> 02:09:38,200
Speaker 2: Who would be his buddy? It would be his partner.

2667
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:40,560
Speaker 6: George Who's his running mate?

2668
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:46,040
Speaker 2: His running man would have to be Trent Williams.

2669
02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:51,320
Speaker 6: No ros.

2670
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:57,680
Speaker 2: I think Kyler Murray. You know, you get a little

2671
02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:00,160
Speaker 2: you get like little little a hole by with like

2672
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:02,520
Speaker 2: hell a jolly guy. Yeah, you like this, you know,

2673
02:10:02,720 --> 02:10:04,560
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying Kyler is a hole, but he

2674
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:06,640
Speaker 2: got a hole. You know, he got those He's got

2675
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 2: like you got that vibe you guys, I paused my via.

2676
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:13,160
Speaker 2: I would have been good, but I'm gonna cast myself

2677
02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:13,440
Speaker 2: a kid.

2678
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll cast you go watch dudes on dudes.

2679
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:16,040
Speaker 4: The answer is.

2680
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:18,880
Speaker 3: What I was going for.

2681
02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:20,560
Speaker 2: Yes, it's kind of what I was going for.

2682
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:22,880
Speaker 6: But see see, I like us doing sort of our

2683
02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:26,640
Speaker 6: our our loop pearlman, if you will in creating a group, yeah,

2684
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:28,400
Speaker 6: like we're not just picking one off the street, like

2685
02:10:28,640 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 6: we're making a super group.

2686
02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, duo, go watch dirty Pop.

2687
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 2: Shout out, yes, yeah, shout out. I don't know if

2688
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 2: that was a great reference.

2689
02:10:35,880 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 4: The answer here is Rob Gronkowski. Man, I like Kyler

2690
02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 4: available on Thursday.

2691
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:45,320
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray and and George Kittle. That'd be a fun

2692
02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:47,400
Speaker 2: duo clown. Who would be the clown?

2693
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:48,080
Speaker 4: Clown?

2694
02:10:49,160 --> 02:10:52,520
Speaker 2: Oh man, what do you mean like a clown?

2695
02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:54,840
Speaker 6: Clinton portis used to always dress up funny?

2696
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:59,200
Speaker 2: How funny? How do I amuse you? He did just clown?

2697
02:10:59,200 --> 02:10:59,840
Speaker 6: I forgot about that.

2698
02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:02,040
Speaker 2: You know who would I'll tell you right now. He's

2699
02:11:02,120 --> 02:11:04,160
Speaker 2: not a clown, but he would, he would. He would

2700
02:11:04,160 --> 02:11:05,040
Speaker 2: do a really good clown.

2701
02:11:05,080 --> 02:11:06,800
Speaker 6: I hope we're thinking the same person right now, the.

2702
02:11:06,800 --> 02:11:09,440
Speaker 2: Guy that he and he would try really hard at

2703
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:12,320
Speaker 2: being that clown. Like if if he got like if

2704
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:14,640
Speaker 2: he's asked him to do he a clown, he would

2705
02:11:14,680 --> 02:11:18,800
Speaker 2: do that, okay, kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins, Yeah, like he

2706
02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:21,880
Speaker 2: would do it with so much pride too. And you

2707
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 2: know he's got like those like suburban birthday like cold cash.

2708
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:31,720
Speaker 2: He knows that world. Yeah, because that's what he I'm

2709
02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:35,360
Speaker 2: sure he's got like a few kids that he's had clowns.

2710
02:11:35,360 --> 02:11:38,280
Speaker 6: He's been in some backyard afternoon back he's been the

2711
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:40,440
Speaker 6: entertainment of a back jack.

2712
02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:41,880
Speaker 3: Who are you going to say? I was gonna say

2713
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:45,360
Speaker 3: Andy Reid, Andy Reid, And he's got the jolly sort

2714
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 3: of he's just so versatile.

2715
02:11:46,760 --> 02:11:48,080
Speaker 5: Give me some of them, give me some of the

2716
02:11:48,120 --> 02:11:50,800
Speaker 5: would be like answer for clown is Jameis Winston?

2717
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:51,120
Speaker 2: Is it not?

2718
02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:55,520
Speaker 6: If you want your clown to motivate you, maybe, yeah, like.

2719
02:11:55,600 --> 02:11:58,040
Speaker 5: He'd fucking rock the ship out of it. You'd be entertained.

2720
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:04,120
Speaker 5: Maybe I can't sorry for having an awesome answer.

2721
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:07,120
Speaker 3: I don't know who do you think?

2722
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:09,000
Speaker 6: I think we're the split decision.

2723
02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:11,760
Speaker 2: Here is tough. Kirk Cousins is good, kir Cousins is good.

2724
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:13,760
Speaker 2: I just think he would be like he would play

2725
02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:18,000
Speaker 2: it like I could see Kurt with makeup on and like, hey.

2726
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:20,680
Speaker 6: Hey, Kurt, put this chain on you. Like yeah, it's

2727
02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:27,640
Speaker 6: the same vibe. Especially, just don't make it a primetime

2728
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:31,240
Speaker 6: birthday party makes it's got.

2729
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:34,400
Speaker 3: Birthday party.

2730
02:12:35,720 --> 02:12:36,040
Speaker 2: Roaster.

2731
02:12:36,200 --> 02:12:38,480
Speaker 6: This seems obvious to me, does it?

2732
02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 2: Yes? Who Rabel and everything I've heard, I don't know

2733
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:45,560
Speaker 2: what this is. Rabel is the best, like he will

2734
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:49,640
Speaker 2: just I've heard it's legendary, right sort of, It's legendary

2735
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:58,880
Speaker 2: within our world, legendary Lee. It's no, it's it's legendary Lee, legendary,

2736
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:06,440
Speaker 2: legend and dairy Lee, like horrific, how crazy it is?

2737
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:08,720
Speaker 6: Like Nicki Glazer would be in the corner taking notes,

2738
02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:10,720
Speaker 6: blushing like I can't believe you said this.

2739
02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, and and nothing's off limits.

2740
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:16,240
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning has roasted before.

2741
02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:17,160
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

2742
02:13:17,760 --> 02:13:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Peyton's too. He's too I mean, he's ESPN.

2743
02:13:22,840 --> 02:13:25,360
Speaker 2: He doesn't go for he gives like dad joke humor.

2744
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:27,120
Speaker 2: Raybel will go for your fucking net.

2745
02:13:27,600 --> 02:13:31,720
Speaker 7: He's like the old school smokey roast from the fifties. Yeah, yeah,

2746
02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:35,920
Speaker 7: which is great, that's the right answer. What's our next one?

2747
02:13:35,960 --> 02:13:40,400
Speaker 7: We have anything else and Jackass cast prankster.

2748
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:46,440
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean you could go Matt light here, jack Yeah.

2749
02:13:47,800 --> 02:13:52,400
Speaker 2: Light Dola because it's like a cool way of funny.

2750
02:13:52,720 --> 02:13:55,640
Speaker 2: It is, you know, like doing some crazy ship. That's

2751
02:13:55,720 --> 02:13:57,680
Speaker 2: kind of cool. Those dudes are all kind of cool.

2752
02:13:57,720 --> 02:14:01,360
Speaker 2: All the Jackass dudes were all like cool that just

2753
02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:05,360
Speaker 2: so happened to do crazy ass ship. Part of my

2754
02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:08,680
Speaker 2: mind goes here to like a only of him is.

2755
02:14:08,680 --> 02:14:11,200
Speaker 8: A very cool guy, but like a like a schooler

2756
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:16,400
Speaker 8: type like crash test dummy special teamer, Like I'm going

2757
02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:18,960
Speaker 8: down there throwing my body at something that's more the

2758
02:14:19,160 --> 02:14:20,520
Speaker 8: the not the pranks oude of the.

2759
02:14:24,280 --> 02:14:25,840
Speaker 6: That's another end of this spectrum. I feel like we

2760
02:14:25,880 --> 02:14:29,360
Speaker 6: could go towards, but I don't think it's a fun Nah.

2761
02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:33,680
Speaker 6: You can't be a teamer that hasn't won a super

2762
02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:38,440
Speaker 6: Bowl on this like slate, if anything, it'd have to

2763
02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:40,760
Speaker 6: be like a slater. But we're not putting slate in

2764
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:41,480
Speaker 6: a prankster.

2765
02:14:41,600 --> 02:14:46,360
Speaker 2: Who's gonna be like eating a fucking cowball or swallowing

2766
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:47,800
Speaker 2: a fucking goldfish.

2767
02:14:47,480 --> 02:14:50,080
Speaker 6: Getting farted the fart with the astronaut helmet on.

2768
02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:51,200
Speaker 2: Remember that one.

2769
02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:52,760
Speaker 3: This one is the take.

2770
02:14:55,000 --> 02:14:55,880
Speaker 2: Jackass holds up.

2771
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:57,080
Speaker 4: You ever watch Wild Boys?

2772
02:14:57,440 --> 02:14:58,120
Speaker 6: Also awesome?

2773
02:14:58,360 --> 02:15:01,400
Speaker 4: I have Wild the best.

2774
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:02,920
Speaker 3: You should reboot Wild.

2775
02:15:03,080 --> 02:15:05,240
Speaker 2: I used to love all those MTV shows like that

2776
02:15:05,600 --> 02:15:08,760
Speaker 2: and then Who is the Jar Show?

2777
02:15:09,040 --> 02:15:09,280
Speaker 3: BAM?

2778
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:12,960
Speaker 2: I loved BAM. I loved Drop Deer Deck, all escape

2779
02:15:13,080 --> 02:15:16,040
Speaker 2: culture guys, like their shows were so fun to me.

2780
02:15:16,600 --> 02:15:20,480
Speaker 2: I think the Fantasy Factory still exist someplace. Yeah, it's

2781
02:15:20,480 --> 02:15:24,000
Speaker 2: still happening because I know that show does. No, I

2782
02:15:24,040 --> 02:15:24,280
Speaker 2: don't know.

2783
02:15:26,520 --> 02:15:28,360
Speaker 6: M Yeah, yeah, I was thinking, but those were the

2784
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:31,240
Speaker 6: DVDs The uncle died, right uncle don vido?

2785
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:34,440
Speaker 2: So who are we going with the prankster? No Light?

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02:15:35,200 --> 02:15:38,000
Speaker 2: I see Matt Light in the Harry Carey video in

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02:15:38,120 --> 02:15:41,880
Speaker 2: my mind when he's in a fucking towel, only like

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02:15:43,320 --> 02:15:48,440
Speaker 2: he would do some fucking party boys ship like like

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02:15:48,560 --> 02:15:51,040
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere. I can see or I

2790
02:15:51,280 --> 02:15:53,640
Speaker 2: can see that, like I can see Matt doing a

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02:15:53,720 --> 02:15:56,600
Speaker 2: prank where like he puts himself in the trunk of

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02:15:56,640 --> 02:15:59,400
Speaker 2: a car butt naked and then has his boy come

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02:15:59,720 --> 02:16:01,720
Speaker 2: fuck and get him out, and like you know, like

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02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:04,040
Speaker 2: those those frank stings to do on there.

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02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:06,520
Speaker 6: He would do that show like pop out of there

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02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:08,160
Speaker 6: like Leslie Chaw in The Hangover that X.

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02:16:08,200 --> 02:16:12,480
Speaker 2: Comedy lead, like like the Dave cerebral. He's a little

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02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:15,560
Speaker 2: bit of gravitas I think. I mean where I instantly

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02:16:15,640 --> 02:16:18,760
Speaker 2: went Travis Kelcey because that's kind of his humor.

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02:16:18,880 --> 02:16:19,760
Speaker 4: He also has.

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02:16:21,120 --> 02:16:23,400
Speaker 2: You know, he'd have a cool story like if you

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02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:25,200
Speaker 2: were to do like one of these like Dave type

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02:16:25,760 --> 02:16:26,560
Speaker 2: comedy things.

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02:16:26,840 --> 02:16:30,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, Baker Mayfield Bake, Oh what affection was driving?

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02:16:30,720 --> 02:16:31,360
Speaker 2: Baker would be.

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02:16:31,680 --> 02:16:34,240
Speaker 4: One of the American horror things.

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02:16:35,360 --> 02:16:36,800
Speaker 6: And then he was in Moon Bay's eight remember on

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02:16:37,600 --> 02:16:39,360
Speaker 6: Yeah that was funny.

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02:16:39,400 --> 02:16:39,840
Speaker 2: That was funny.

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02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:41,240
Speaker 4: Man Mayfield could be good.

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02:16:41,240 --> 02:16:42,160
Speaker 2: Bake would be interesting.

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02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:45,560
Speaker 6: I kind of picture him as uh like when he

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02:16:45,680 --> 02:16:47,680
Speaker 6: was wearing the law the tweed coat and he hadn't

2814
02:16:47,680 --> 02:16:48,600
Speaker 6: shaved in a couple of days.

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02:16:48,640 --> 02:16:49,200
Speaker 3: That kind of bake.

2816
02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:51,199
Speaker 6: And he's at the press conference.

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02:16:51,280 --> 02:16:52,520
Speaker 4: He was finding those commercials.

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02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:55,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, progressive bakes. Some man Baky, I like that

2819
02:16:55,879 --> 02:17:00,560
Speaker 2: Bake or Kelsey Kelsey. I mean, I don't know if

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02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:04,880
Speaker 2: it's just being a production owner, I think the show

2821
02:17:04,879 --> 02:17:09,360
Speaker 2: would be bigger with Travis. See spoken like a true

2822
02:17:09,400 --> 02:17:11,880
Speaker 2: casting director, right, you know, And I'm just saying the

2823
02:17:11,959 --> 02:17:14,280
Speaker 2: storylines we could get He's at right now, you can

2824
02:17:14,360 --> 02:17:17,000
Speaker 2: go down the pop star Alley. We can like Bake

2825
02:17:17,160 --> 02:17:20,800
Speaker 2: is a funny fucking dude, but he's more sitcom. Well yeah,

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02:17:20,800 --> 02:17:22,560
Speaker 2: I mean no, I'm talking.

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02:17:22,560 --> 02:17:23,640
Speaker 3: We're talking FX like.

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02:17:25,680 --> 02:17:29,280
Speaker 2: Drummedies, like Dave, those are drummedies.

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02:17:29,080 --> 02:17:30,440
Speaker 6: Like I want to see you with the Golden Globes,

2830
02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:31,800
Speaker 6: Come Come Award season.

2831
02:17:32,560 --> 02:17:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, this role and like he's just like he's got

2832
02:17:34,760 --> 02:17:37,680
Speaker 2: a cool story and he's kind of witty. He's witty

2833
02:17:37,720 --> 02:17:40,320
Speaker 2: as fuck. He's he's and he's a sly dude. You know,

2834
02:17:40,440 --> 02:17:44,520
Speaker 2: like what's his name right here? Donald Glover? Like Donald Glover,

2835
02:17:45,520 --> 02:17:48,400
Speaker 2: I can see that little dicky, little Dicky.

2836
02:17:48,400 --> 02:17:50,640
Speaker 4: Or what's the guy from the Bear Jeremy Allen White.

2837
02:17:50,440 --> 02:17:51,920
Speaker 2: He's like the coolest dude in the world right now.

2838
02:17:52,040 --> 02:17:53,200
Speaker 2: Or like the last couple of.

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02:17:53,320 --> 02:17:55,440
Speaker 6: You got like lookalike context of him and like Central

2840
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:56,000
Speaker 6: Park in New York.

2841
02:17:56,120 --> 02:18:00,640
Speaker 2: What a weird looking dude. It's I know, he looks

2842
02:18:00,640 --> 02:18:06,760
Speaker 2: like a goldfish. You need like really cool dudes have

2843
02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:10,560
Speaker 2: a little weird look. No, he's probably like an m

2844
02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:13,680
Speaker 2: M A guy or something. I don't funk with any

2845
02:18:13,720 --> 02:18:16,480
Speaker 2: of those because I know, like there's another dude, little

2846
02:18:16,520 --> 02:18:21,480
Speaker 2: actor dude. He's like a boxer, Like fucking what's his name? Baine,

2847
02:18:22,720 --> 02:18:26,040
Speaker 2: Tom hard Tom Hardy. He'll be the ju jitsu. These

2848
02:18:26,080 --> 02:18:29,200
Speaker 2: dudes are all doing some crazy ship now, don't yeah,

2849
02:18:29,720 --> 02:18:33,920
Speaker 2: I don't bark up, No trees, keep it moving. Oh

2850
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:36,520
Speaker 2: fucking those days are over.

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02:18:38,680 --> 02:18:39,360
Speaker 3: But what a game.

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02:18:40,360 --> 02:18:43,959
Speaker 2: Thanks again to Rich that's been another episode of Game's Names.

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02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:48,400
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2854
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