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Speaker 1: just two years ago are no longer on this defense.

425
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Speaker 1: That left a particular stain that you don't have them anymore,

426
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Speaker 1: just in Kareem Jjoe Tyrn, matthew All in the secondary,

427
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Speaker 1: Andre Hall in the secondary, and then you don't have

428
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Speaker 1: Roderick McKinney this year because he's injured. And then upfront

429
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Speaker 1: reader Clowney. Without those two guys up front, and then

430
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Speaker 1: other guys that were good in the roles they were in,

431
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Speaker 1: Christine Covington would come in and give them depth in

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Speaker 1: the middle, and that's not something that they've been able

433
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Speaker 1: to have. So that twenty eighteen defense had those particular

434
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Speaker 1: type players and Clowney was one. And everywhere you go

435
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Speaker 1: and anytime you do an interview outside the city when

436
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: Clowney was playing here, they would want to know about Clowney. Yeah,

437
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: they would ask about Clowney like, hey, man, Clowney's doing

438
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Speaker 1: this or Clowney's doing that, and It's like, yeah, he

439
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Speaker 1: is he he really is, and he definitely is polarizing.

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Speaker 1: But I'd say this, even though Mario had more, Mario

441
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Speaker 1: had more sacks, I'd take Clowney. Well, he's one of

442
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Speaker 1: those guys. And they didn't even win a playoff game

443
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Speaker 1: wait with Mario Clowney and two years ago? Yeah that year, Yeah,

444
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Speaker 1: but they won one in sixteen with him, and he

445
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Speaker 1: had that big John was talking about two Yeah. I mean,

446
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Speaker 1: clown is a kind of guy who does a whole

447
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Speaker 1: bunch of things that might not show all on the

448
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Speaker 1: stat sheet too, but affect the game. There's no question

449
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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure off what when he was on

450
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Speaker 1: the other side. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, general, what do you

451
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: have going on to the Chronicle? Well, I have that

452
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: thing about the blueprint for the Texans organization. Aaron Wilson's

453
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Speaker 1: got a story about Eric b Enemy just as a candidate,

454
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Speaker 1: not day candidate, because he's a hot candidate all over

455
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Speaker 1: the league. And and I hope you guys have a

456
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Speaker 1: great weekend. I'll be in Indianapolis and hopefully that performance

457
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: will be more like the game two weeks ago and

458
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: not the game Sunday. Hopefully they got that out of

459
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Speaker 1: their system two weeks ago with the finish thank you general,

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, take care, stay safe, always a pleasure,

461
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: all right. A lot of polarizing figures, all right. One

462
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Speaker 1: big one has come in that we totally ignored. Houston

463
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Speaker 1: ten studios the Hunday Texans Radio portable studio tonight and

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Speaker 1: he just turned my mic on. You just turned my

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Speaker 1: mic on. What that look? Don't don't they have to

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Speaker 1: on for me. You have to understand Brandon is behind

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Speaker 1: double paned glass here. I mean it's bulletproof. It's like

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Speaker 1: a pokemobile he's in and I can't believe you turned

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Speaker 1: Now let me Johnny, Well, you saw the old studio

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Speaker 1: that was on the other side of the building, when

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Speaker 1: was there. I go back even before you mark back.

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Speaker 1: My first time I was ever in Sports Radio six

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Speaker 1: ten was nineteen ninety seven, so I remember it then,

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Speaker 1: and I think when you got here it was even

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Speaker 1: different from that. Well, when I got here, the producer

515
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Speaker 1: was across the hall, so you'd literally literally have people

516
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Speaker 1: walking down the hall like I can't see the producer,

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Speaker 1: but no one can hear you because you're behind the

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Speaker 1: thick glass and they're behind the thick glass. And then

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Speaker 1: Jonesy was my producer and there was light behind him.

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Speaker 1: All I would see is this silhouette, so you couldn't

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Speaker 1: see his face, which it's really important to see the face.

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Speaker 1: He can just have the sort of you know, visual communication.

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Speaker 1: And it was just bizarre. It was. It was like

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Speaker 1: broadcasting and a broom closet. But those were legendary days.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Dick Harmon and Charlie yaps occasionally, but

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Speaker 1: Dick Harmon on Fridays, a late Dick Harmon Friday's Friday's

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Speaker 1: at eight o'clock, Charlie casually at seven for an hour,

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Speaker 1: followed by the Golf Hour at eight. That was the

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Speaker 1: sports Radio sixteen Friday morning line, unbelieve, and then me

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Speaker 1: at nine. So there it go. Yeah, that that was

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Speaker 1: the years. Years later, the Thursday Thursday hour, the seven

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Speaker 1: to eight hour was yours truly, followed by oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember hearing you. Then I'm like, this guy is

534
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: like he has no life. He just he knows everything

535
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Speaker 1: about college football. It's creepy almost how much he knows.

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Speaker 1: All right, polarized, you started the show saying I did

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Speaker 1: polarizing players because we were talking about James Harden and

538
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see him tonight. Actually yeah, you know,

539
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: not personally, but like at the game, I figure he's

540
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: playing unless they're you know, making a deal right now

541
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Speaker 1: as we speak. And it's sad to me by the way,

542
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, because he's great Houston athlete. You hate to

543
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: see him go. You'd wish it could all work out somehow,

544
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: but whatever, not my business. But we were talking about

545
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Speaker 1: Mario Williams as a polarizing text, and I question, is

546
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Speaker 1: Matt Shop polarizing? I think the debate on whether he

547
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: was really good or not was kind of a polarizing thing. Yeah,

548
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: but David Carr himself, the very first QB number one

549
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: pick in the draft two thousand and two, he was

550
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Speaker 1: polarizing and it didn't start out that way. But you know,

551
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Speaker 1: expansion team. Everybody understood Baselli never played, Ryan Young never

552
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Speaker 1: played at the other tackle spot. We were thinking, all right,

553
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Speaker 1: I give the kid a break, he's a rookie. Then

554
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: year two it's like, oh, is it gonna happen? Year three?

555
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Now they got off to a good

556
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Speaker 1: start in two thousand and four year three for David Carr.

557
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Speaker 1: First half of the season, they were four and three. Gosh,

558
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: I wish we were four and three at some point.

559
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: They were four and three in two thousand and four

560
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Speaker 1: year three of franchise history, but then they slid down

561
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Speaker 1: from there ended up finishing seven to nine, which was

562
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Speaker 1: nice at the time. But anyway, I think he was

563
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Speaker 1: a polarizing guy. Johnny, Yeah, I think you're I think

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Speaker 1: you're dead on. I think that's exactly exactly the kind

565
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Speaker 1: of guy. I think you encapsulated the shop one two.

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Speaker 1: I think he was not. I don't think you look

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Speaker 1: at him and go, oh, he was polarizing. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think everybody kind of went yeah, yeah, metsical quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know when it went off the deep, Okay, I

570
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: think everybody saw that. I don't think anybody was going, no,

571
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: he's still good, and the other people are like, no, no,

572
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: he's not good. I mean I think it was like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: it's gone off. It's unfortunate, but it's just kind of

574
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: gone off the rails. The one net. I mean, I

575
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Speaker 1: could I could see in some sense because there are

576
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Speaker 1: so many different adjectives to describe him, but I don't

577
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Speaker 1: think his play was ever polarizing. I just think he

578
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: was polarizing off the field because you there were some

579
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Speaker 1: people that are like, I love Aryan Foster, and then

580
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: there's some people that are like, I don't care for

581
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Speaker 1: him at all. But on the field, I don't think

582
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Speaker 1: there was any question about him on the field. I

583
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Speaker 1: think for Aryan it was more did you you know,

584
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Speaker 1: did people have an issue with you know, British Arian,

585
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: which we loved it, we thought it was funny. But

586
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Speaker 1: then there were some people that are like, eh, And

587
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Speaker 1: then some people would hear Aryan, you know, be short

588
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: and impress conference or whatever the case might be, and

589
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: some people like, I don't, I don't care for him,

590
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: entitled athlete, whatever the case might be. But the but

591
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: Arian was especially earlier in his career, he was very

592
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Speaker 1: likable to everybody. But at some point it's sort of changed,

593
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Speaker 1: and I think you could you could maybe look at

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Speaker 1: him as a polarizing guy off the field. On the

595
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Speaker 1: field not at all. I mean, that guy was just

596
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Speaker 1: a straight baller on the field. So I don't think

597
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Speaker 1: you could you could argue with that. But it just

598
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: strikes me when I, you know, you look at James

599
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Speaker 1: Harden because here's the thing that and and Hardened to me,

600
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 1: is just kind of a He's kind of an enigma

601
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: wrapped in a riddle. I heard my wife used that

602
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: phrase because a long time ago, a headmaster said that

603
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: to me that I was that way. I was an

604
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Speaker 1: enigma wrapped in a riddle, and I was like, okay,

605
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: either way. My wife used that phrase, and I was like,

606
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of hard in some sense. And I think

607
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: it's that way for for Rockets fans too, because nationally

608
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: people hate him. He's not even bull rising. People just

609
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: hate him. But yeah, Rockets fans are like, yeah, well,

610
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, he produces fifty point triple doubles. You know,

611
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: he's an MVP candidate, Like, what do you want him

612
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Speaker 1: to do? Yeah, he brought the eurostep, you know, really

613
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: made it popular in the game, and he gets a

614
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Speaker 1: lot of his points from the freak throw line. I mean, so, yeah,

615
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: it's different. But the fans outside this city hate him. Well, now,

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Speaker 1: in the city in which the only place that has

617
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Speaker 1: cared for Hardened, he's now saying now I want to bounce,

618
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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I think he's even gone past

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Speaker 1: polarizing to this point to say annoying, But it's more

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait and see on this before I really

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Speaker 1: kind of dive into being a hardened file if you will,

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Speaker 1: on this one. That's the way it's kind of feels

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Speaker 1: to me, not to players who really want to get traded.

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Speaker 1: I think, and look, what do I know? I don't

625
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Speaker 1: want to get traded, But if I did, if I

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Speaker 1: were a professional athlete wanted to get traded, I would

627
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Speaker 1: go to my organization and say, I'd really like to

628
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Speaker 1: get traded. Now, I'm not gonna go public with this.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm gonna be a model citizen because I

630
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Speaker 1: know you guys want leverage to make the deal. Right. Yes,

631
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Speaker 1: If I cos you guys to dump me, well then

632
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Speaker 1: it's big, a big problem for them. You know they're

633
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Speaker 1: not gonna want to do that. You want to be model.

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Speaker 1: You want to have model behavior, model performance, so you

635
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Speaker 1: get the best possible price, and that incentivizes to a

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Speaker 1: degree the organization to do it. But at the same time,

637
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, you're working in hey, is it getting done?

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00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: Is it getting done? Is it getting done? And I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Easier said than done, of course, was something

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Speaker 1: like this not my business, like I said, and we'll see, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to a couple of things about Sunday,

642
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Speaker 1: because all the talk this week about these final games,

643
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: especially this game, it's the next one. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you this. I've done a couple of

645
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Speaker 1: appearances in Indie. I got another one tomorrow, and they're concerned.

646
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: They're concerned about the Texans. They saw what happened two

647
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: weeks ago. This is a huge game for the Colts.

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00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: And if I'm Romeo Cornell, if I'm any kind of

649
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Speaker 1: Texans coach, that's what I'm telling my guys. Do you

650
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: guys understand how big a game this is for that

651
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: if they lose this game, they're losing the division. I mean,

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00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: let's be honest here. They're gonna lose the division if

653
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: they lose this game, and they know it. So you

654
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: have a chance to do something here that affects the race,

655
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: that affects the AFC South. You're not winning the division

656
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: this year, but you can prevent them from doing it

657
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: now and doing that, you're helping the Titans win, which gosh, Johnny,

658
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean this is awful. Yeah, this is like the

659
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Speaker 1: USA watching World War Two. And Russia and the German front,

660
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, which one do we want to win

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00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: this thing? Actually the Russians of the Sorry, yeah, I

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00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: mean it's like bick one. Yeah. I mean, look, you

663
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: know the whole debate about the Shawn and look, Deshan's

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Speaker 1: gonna play. I mean he's he has said it before,

665
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: you know, setting a standard for this organization. So are

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00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: you okay with that, by the way, because that's that's

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00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: been a huge thing all day all week. I mean

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00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: I am, and I have been. Now, if the game

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Speaker 1: gets out of hand in the late third quarter, mid

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00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: to late thirty more than like I did the other day,

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Speaker 1: then I would be I would be okay with de Shan.

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00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: You know, hey, look we've this one's out of hand.

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00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta get ready for the Bengals next week.

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00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: AJ gets some snaps. Uh, let's let's move on. But

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00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, these Colts games have no matter what the

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00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: records are on each side, they've been one score games

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00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: going all the way back to twenty thirteen, minus the

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Speaker 1: playoff game, every regular season game has been within a

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00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: one has been one score. And I think that's probably

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00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: why the Colts fans and the Colts media are probably

681
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: a little bit like because there have been times when

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00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have beaten us, and Hasselback came in a

683
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: diaper and beat us. And it probably goes the other

684
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: way too. There have probably been some times when they

685
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: definitely should have beaten us, and you know, we took

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Speaker 1: it to him and ended up getting a w So

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00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: no matter who's on the field. So when you have Watson,

688
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: it's enough to put pressure on anybody. But I believe

689
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: in in playing. They know the whole tank like you.

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00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: Now here's what the copy. I texted Sean Pendergas the

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Speaker 1: other day. I was driving up to get COVID tested

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Speaker 1: and they were talking about it, and I said, you

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Speaker 1: know the one thing that I'm gonna watch this Landry Locker.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's talking about guy. What if the Texans had a

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00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: first round pick, would you then be sitting to Shawn Watson? No,

696
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: n it gets a little bit now, it gets a

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00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: little bit dicier from that from that standpoint. Now, whether

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00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: you have a difference of three draft spots in the

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00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: third round versus having three draft spots in the first round,

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00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: those are two totally different things. Can you go to

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00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: the Dolphins right now and say give us a two

702
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: and we'll sit Watson for the rest of the season. Yeah. So, boy,

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00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: that's a that's a great one. That's a great one.

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00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: So here's here's one of my others. In the NBA,

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Speaker 1: you can protect a first round pick? Can you protect it?

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can't do that in the NFL.

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00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. I don't know if you

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00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: can do it, But I clan why can't you stipulate?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But here's the thing. Mark, if you

710
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Speaker 1: did have, say the number four and number five pick

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00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: this year, and you know there's gonna be a team

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Speaker 1: that wants a quarterback and like, hey man, we'll give

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Speaker 1: you a one, I mean, that's that's where I mean.

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Speaker 1: How how did the Tennessee Titans get start to kind

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Speaker 1: of turn the corner when they had Mariota? Then they

716
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: ended up getting the first round pick, and then the

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00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: Rams traded with them, The Titans get a you know,

718
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: pilot picks, and who did they pick amongst that pilot picks?

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Speaker 1: Derek Henry was in those picks that they got from Mariota.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that, you know, you really want

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Speaker 1: to throw a season. But if you've got a quarterback

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Speaker 1: and you end up in the top five, you're golden,

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Speaker 1: especially in a draft that's got quarterbacks and teams at

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Speaker 1: quarterback needs and you've got three or four of them,

725
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: so you could move out of whatever spot. That to

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00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: me would be the more interesting question. If you had

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Speaker 1: a first rounder, then would you sit the sean Then

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Speaker 1: it would be then you, oh boy, Then my answer,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it would be, so thank god

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Speaker 1: it aren't. Well, I don't want to say that because

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Speaker 1: I would love to have a first round pick, but

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Speaker 1: it would be the answer. That question is a whole

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Speaker 1: lot easier. Now it's like, yeah, there's no win or lose.

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Speaker 1: I mean, losing doesn't help you in any way, shape

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00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: or form. But you win a game, you get a

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00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: little confidence, like, hey, you know, let's fish this thing strong.

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00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: Let's get three ws, get to seven and nine and

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00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: feel good about how we finished with the new GM

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00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: and a new head coach coming in and kind of

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Speaker 1: round this thing back where it should be in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one and beyond. All right, we have one more segment, Johnny,

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00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: hang out one more Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's rock,

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00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: all right, so we'll go around the league. Raiders tonight

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00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: and PFT had this question up on their headlines. Does

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00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: John Druden get judged by a different standard. We'll debate

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00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: that just for a second. And I've got one scenario

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00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,640
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Speaker 1: the Titans and the Colts gunning for the division title.

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Speaker 1: They're both tied a top the AFC South nine and four,

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00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,000
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00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: already have three losses, so you got them there, so

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Speaker 1: they win the tiebreaker. That's the first one. And look,

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Speaker 1: they both have tough games next week, especially, but we'll

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Speaker 1: see out all plays out for them. The Titans have

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00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: Detroit this week. And that's no gim mean, that's no layup,

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00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: that's no one foot put out there. Oh you're not

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Speaker 1: buying it, are you? All right? I mean right say?

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00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean the Lions center Frank Ragne I was playing

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00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: with a fractured throat last week, So you know they're tough.

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00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: They're playing hard, and I do think that. I do

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00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: think with a guy like Matt Patricia being out of

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Speaker 1: the building, I think they have enjoyed playing for Daryl Bebel.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I think they've played hard. They played

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Speaker 1: hard in that game against the Bears, the one the

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Speaker 1: week before we played, and I watched that game, Man,

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00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 1: how did they win this game? But the Bears jumped

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Speaker 1: out early and then you just kept seeing the Lions

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Speaker 1: kind of keep coming back, keep coming back, and they

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Speaker 1: won that game, and just to see the excitement they

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00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: had on the sideline, I was like, man, they're playing

818
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Speaker 1: hard for Daryl Bebel. And I don't think Darrell ends

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00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: up getting the job. But I did find it interesting

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Speaker 1: that the Lions we were playing hard for. He was

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Speaker 1: a hot candidate for a while though. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: funny because he's a Seattle yep whatever, having a Jim

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00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 1: Bob Cooter. He was a piping hot for a while.

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Speaker 1: He was Jim Bob Cooter. Somebody was gonna have a

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Speaker 1: guy named Jim Bob Cooters their head coach and it

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Speaker 1: never happened. Opportunity, Yeah, because I forget where he is now, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we just saw him somewhere and he's

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Speaker 1: with the Jets. Good luck with that, Okay, not working

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Speaker 1: out very he is is he's with the Jets, well

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Speaker 1: kind of. Well at look Adam gase Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about hot assistant coaches, guys who have

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Speaker 1: you know, their their stock is so high. And look,

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Speaker 1: Eric b enemy might turn out to be Vince Lombardy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But once upon a time Adam gasee

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Speaker 1: was the hottest assistant coach in the market. He was.

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Speaker 1: He was got the Dolphins job, got them to one playoffs,

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Speaker 1: that was it. Got the Jets job, ran them into

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Speaker 1: the ground even deeper than they ever were. You know.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's the deal. I look, the only way

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Speaker 1: I would entertain sitting Deshaan if he wasn't healthy, If

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Speaker 1: injury and he was like toughing it out, Like I

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Speaker 1: Who knows what's gonna happen with him, but he is

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Speaker 1: all right, So, Johnny, final thoughts tomorrow night's show, what

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Speaker 1: do you got? Well, we're gonna have Matt Taylor on

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Speaker 1: That's Jamie Roots. I know he's listening, So I've got

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