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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 1: welcome to wind Down. Um, how is everyone's fourth of July?

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Speaker 1: I go, I just wait to be called on. That's

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Speaker 1: all I do. I it was good. It was good. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, we they do this really cute fireworks show

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Speaker 1: in in my village, Minroevia, California. And we realized we've

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Speaker 1: lived here for three years. We realized we could watch

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Speaker 1: it from our backyard this year. So every other year

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Speaker 1: we go downtown and like steak out a good spot everything,

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Speaker 1: and then this year we're like, oh, we can just

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Speaker 1: see this from the back porch. So that is what

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Speaker 1: we did. Um. It was really nice and uh and

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Speaker 1: we barbecued, just my wife and I and uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had a good time. Oh I love that, Riley.

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Speaker 1: What about you? Ben? Yeah, just hung out with some friends.

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Speaker 1: We went on to the beach for a little bit

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Speaker 1: before I got crazy. Um, it's always crazy at the

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Speaker 1: beach around here, so we want to get there early. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then fireworks were popping. This year, I felt like

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Speaker 1: just it was crazy. But I think it was nice

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Speaker 1: to just sit with friends like you know, we haven't

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Speaker 1: So it was perfect. Yeah, I feel like it's one

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Speaker 1: of those things where it's like we're free, Like its

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Speaker 1: like everyone's just like throwing like because even on because

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Speaker 1: I went up north to Michigan and um, which I

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Speaker 1: honestly didn't know how I was going to feel because

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Speaker 1: the last two fourth of July as we r vied

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Speaker 1: and it was like this big like family vacation and um,

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Speaker 1: and so I at first I was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: like in the up North Michigan is like my happy place.

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Speaker 1: It's my like whenever I have anxiety, it's it's like

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Speaker 1: the one thing where my therapist like when we always

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Speaker 1: talking about like when I was trying to like work

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Speaker 1: on anxiety there like pick a place that like it

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Speaker 1: just brings you so much serenity and so much peace.

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Speaker 1: And so I was like, well, up North Michigan like

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Speaker 1: no matter what, like just sitting on at like like

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Speaker 1: there's something like I'm I'm a percent me. I'm like

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be anything. I'm not like I'm

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Speaker 1: just like so carefree up there and just at peace

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Speaker 1: and so that's always like my happy place, and I'm like, shoot,

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Speaker 1: like I hope I don't go up there and it's

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Speaker 1: ruined or it's like tampered because of like the memories

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Speaker 1: that I had with you know, my acts and the kids.

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Speaker 1: And it was like probably the best trip I've ever

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Speaker 1: had now, Yeah it was. It was a little challenging,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you know, um first like single mom

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Speaker 1: vacation and flying with them and um, but it was

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Speaker 1: so you know sweet too because my my cousin Jessica

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Speaker 1: texted me was like you know, her and her Eric,

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Speaker 1: my cousin were talking and they were like, it was

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Speaker 1: so cool to see you just like kill the single

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Speaker 1: momb game up north, and and I was kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: sure there was moments where I'm like I could really

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Speaker 1: I just made it work, and it was just like,

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Speaker 1: say I thought it was just going to be like,

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Speaker 1: just there's something about like I'm like, oh, like something

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Speaker 1: I feel like I almost can you come visit on set?

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Speaker 1: glad you brought that up, Janey, because I saw in

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Speaker 1: your on your Instagram, which I pay close attention to.

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Speaker 1: I saw you studying the script aboard a plane, and

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Speaker 1: I was, I want to know what we can find

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Speaker 1: out about this movie. So that's a Christmas movie. So

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Speaker 1: this and I just I can't wait to go film it.

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Speaker 1: But I am a I'm like, um, it's like a

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Speaker 1: flip or Flop show. I'm like, I'm the start of it.

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Speaker 1: So um, so that's that's my job. And I, you know,

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Speaker 1: excited about it. So we'll have him on the podcast

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Speaker 1: and we'll do like the whole announcement on the next

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Speaker 1: have him mom, and he's awesome. He's such a great actor,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm so looking forward to it. And

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Speaker 1: first week and a half, so it'll be it'll be

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Speaker 1: really fun. I know that we've really nailed the like

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Speaker 1: recording remotely and you know your way around all the gear.

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Speaker 1: But but I really think the show would benefit for

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Speaker 1: you in person. I one thousand percent agree. And I

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Speaker 1: kind of a a little sad. I'm like, I missed coming

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Speaker 1: I miss you guys and um, but yes, please come

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Speaker 1: But first, let's take a break. Hey Derenda, Hey there,

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Speaker 1: how are you? How are you? I'm Janna Kramer. It's

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Speaker 1: nice to meet you. You're nice to meet you. Where

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Speaker 1: are you? I am actually in Los Angeles. Where are you?

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Speaker 1: I am in the Berkshires on a very torn literally

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Speaker 1: out stormy. We had a little many tornado here last night.

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Speaker 1: You had a tornado in Massachusetts. Well, we get these

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Speaker 1: because it was well, and it's just it's isn't you

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Speaker 1: How old are you? When you got divorced from your show,

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Speaker 1: beautiful because it suffers and it protects that beautiful juice.

426
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Speaker 1: It's sorry, this is just you just know life's hogged. Yeah,

427
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: oh man, So how are you like? Because how how

428
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 1: many that's been? How many years it's gonna be ten

429
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: years this year? Can you imagine? So how do you like?

430
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: How do you get back out there? And and and

431
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: and trust that like and and to bring thelow You

432
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: should talk to people, and you should get any kind

433
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: of professional help you can be in. You should be

434
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: shameless about it, and you should cry when you want

435
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: to cry, and you should not rush into anything. You

436
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: should be very protective of yourself because it's a wound

437
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: and you should, you know, just do it slowly, there's

438
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: no rush. And you know what, you got it all

439
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: in front of you. You got your two kids, and

440
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: it sounds like you have a beautiful career and you're

441
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: a beautiful girl, and you know you do you have

442
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: a strong family bond, Yeah, very much. You have your family,

443
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: so you've already won. I mean, I'm very religious, so

444
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: my religion helped me a lot. You know, I'm not

445
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: cookie religious, but very spiritual. You know, I clean onto

446
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: that and that helped me a lot and and exercise

447
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: and stay healthy. So make it nice. What is your

448
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: just so but make it nice. I mean that is

449
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: your I mean, that's that is probably I mean, is

450
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: it just kind of is it showing the journey and

451
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: how how you've come to this place, that's this whole

452
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: place that you are. You have to you have to suffer,

453
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: and you have you have to go through things, You

454
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: have to go through life, and all you can do

455
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: is sort of look at it and try to do

456
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: it as best you can, as honorably as you can,

457
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: as accepting as you can. You know, and be and

458
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, don't be in a rush. Sloan Steady wins

459
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: the race. You know, eat life really is a marathon,

460
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: like it's you. You know, it's like it's like a butterfly,

461
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, the butterfly, the monarch. Butterflies are the strongest

462
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: of the ones that come out of the nest a

463
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: little bit later because they but there's by the time

464
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: they get out, their winds are so strong that it

465
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: was worth taking the time to do it right. And

466
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: you know it's women, we like you're feeling right now.

467
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: This is a roadblock, but you'll figure out a way

468
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: around it. You know, you don't have to go through it.

469
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: You'll figure out. You're like, you know why I got

470
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: to the path. I thought I was going to Italy,

471
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: but now you may end up in France, so you

472
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Speaker 1: want to French? Alright, It's okay. Isn't that great? You

473
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna end up in Italy, but it's

474
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: that you're going to France. That's okay. That's why my

475
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: mother used to say, you thought you were going to

476
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: the beach, but unfortunately going skames adapt It's about adapting.

477
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: It's about you know, taking looking back on these things

478
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: that we go through like this, not as disappointments but

479
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: as growth periods. Yeah, and really taking care of yourself,

480
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, as women we and I include myself, you know,

481
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: we can get a self destructive people around We started

482
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: drinking sort did you trying to keep up, trying to

483
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: compare and contrast. Just stop. You'd be surprised how life

484
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: unfolds for itself if you ask it too. Yeah, right,

485
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: I I agree with you, and that it's just I

486
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: think it's like the hardest thing is like how powerful

487
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: your mind is too, you know, and how how much

488
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: you know? I'm like, oh, well, I guess I don't

489
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: deserve that, So I'm gonna go. Let's let's let's choose

490
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: the next relationship that's justice destructive. There is a wonderful

491
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: tool for women, isn't it. We grapuate onto it, just

492
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: don't don't pick up that him. Did you enjoy writing

493
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: your book? It was an absolute joy and it came

494
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: at a perfect time because, as you know, it was

495
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: not on the Real Housewife last year and it was COVID,

496
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: so I kind of used it as a time because

497
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 1: I've been you know, it's so funny. I'm I love

498
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: to talk. I love people, but I never take time

499
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: to like really take stock of what I've done, where

500
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: I come from, and what I believe because I'm always

501
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: talking and talking and I love women and kind of

502
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: empowering women, and I just I like, like I always

503
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: say I should have. I would have probably been great

504
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: and like a harem right one husband fifty that's our

505
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Speaker 1: commune liver. I would be a great common liver because

506
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: I like people, right. But it was nice because COVID

507
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: allowed me to sit still and stop talking and start

508
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: writing it down and thinking and going through these phases

509
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: of my life. It was a real Um, it was

510
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: a real um gift, you know, because I have been

511
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: through a lot, you know, and I'm really proud of

512
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: myself and I have I haven't often said that about myself.

513
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: If you're always doing it's just about God through that, okay,

514
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: God through that to go back and really honor my

515
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: relationships and experiences I've had and the downfalls. And then

516
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, I was reading I was watching the other

517
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: day a little Chaos and she says the most beautiful

518
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: thing that she says that, you know, women should be.

519
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Women should be noted for their she says something that

520
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: don't take it word for word. I'll I'll watch against

521
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: you've been watching, said women should have been. Women are

522
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: often recognized for their faults with are vulnerabilities, but not

523
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: for their successes. We're really good at pointing out our

524
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: vulnerabilities and our faults, but we're really bad at pointing

525
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: out our successes. So I was like, that's it, you know, yeah,

526
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: and I think there's something so I thought this when

527
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: it turned into it, right right, But it's so it's

528
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: so good though, it's so real, and I think, like

529
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: when you like, what does that mean? That's whatever you

530
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: call it? That could be God, that could be you're

531
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: your angel. There's someone out there to put us together today. Yeah,

532
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: and I think should maybe a shifty interview, but we

533
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: certainly got it there. But I think it's there's something

534
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: so beautiful of you being like, you know, saying that

535
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: you're proud of yourself and I can't even you know,

536
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: and not like chokes me up because the voices that

537
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: I feel like us women speak to ourselves are so

538
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: toxic all the time and we have to work on that.

539
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: And you know what, and also to what you just said,

540
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: which is very interesting. So when you don't have that anymore,

541
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, I said, the great thing about a postmanopausal woman,

542
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: the sex thing is sort of not as important. So

543
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: it's crazy because that's sex thing and chilled childbirard and

544
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: make you a little nutty. Right, So when you're mad

545
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: at fifty six and you're like, oh, I just want

546
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: to watch TV and go to sleep at night, you

547
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I want to make money, that's

548
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. I want to go vegation

549
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: with my girlfriend. It's it's amazing because you don't, you know,

550
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: you you you you don't have all that craziness because

551
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: it's like questioning and craziness and I'm a worthy and

552
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: just should I date? And am I gonna get married again?

553
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: It's it can really make you loopy, and I think

554
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: in some ways men tune into that a little bit

555
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: because you know, we're all it's probably you know a

556
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: lot of men love to say that thing you're crazy,

557
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: you're not, and it creates such anger that it makes

558
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: us look crazy and nuts or make us feel like

559
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: we're crazy. I'm like, am I crazy? Did I Like?

560
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know I could have maybe been like

561
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: a little less naggy and like, yeah I had I

562
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: was controlling at times because of the environment that caused.

563
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know, as you're intelligence self, I

564
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: had nothing to do. I know, but it's very hard

565
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: not to like when you hear it cards. It's very

566
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: hard to not listen to those because I'm like, and

567
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: I was just I was helping a girl. Some people

568
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: DM me sometimes and they're like, hey, like I just

569
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: feel and I'm like, I can so easily give the

570
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: advice to other people, but I can't take it myself.

571
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: Like I know that yes, was I controlling, Yes I was?

572
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: But was it because of the environment that was created. Yes,

573
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: like both those things can be true, but like I

574
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: put on so much guilt for that. Well, I was like,

575
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, I tell other people not to Well, that's right,

576
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: because it's easier to give than follow. It's easier to

577
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: give direction than follow. It's easier to tell someone to

578
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: do temper shops and doing them yourself. Right, you can

579
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: say to someone doing tempership is really good for every day,

580
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: but when you have to do them like this is hard.

581
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: My boobs, I not my my my doctor told me

582
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to with my new books. You know,

583
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: I think that when people when there's any kind of betrayal,

584
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: it's a wound, and just like any kind of animal,

585
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: you protect the wound. So you get a little jittery,

586
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: you know, afterally get the wound right, it's it's it's trauma.

587
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: So you know, I just would not if I would

588
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: to give you some advice as the older Yes, you're

589
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: in the place you're you're now my my new life coach,

590
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: Like I would say, stop thinking about the past and

591
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: just today and go forward and be like I would

592
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: just like pretend until you are strong enough, it doesn't exist.

593
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Just until I'm not saying forever, but for now, just

594
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: until you can, you know, really accalm, get strong and

595
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: heal yourself and lick your wounds again. I would just

596
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: put that on hold because maybe, just maybe any year,

597
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: two years, you'll be able to look at that say

598
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: care anymore? Mm hmm can you? I mean maybe they

599
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: should try it. I mean nothing, You're not gonna because

600
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: it's a little bit spinning your wheels. It's probably taking

601
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: away from some positive things that you could probably develop

602
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: over the next twelve sixteen months of your life. Right, yeah,

603
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: absolutely go out there and enjoying a new groups. Oh

604
00:31:53,960 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: I have trust me, trust my god, I've got oh drenda,

605
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: thank you for making this, for making it nice? Oh good,

606
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: good enough, And I signed you with the book. I'll

607
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: put a nice note personally, and I'm going to buy

608
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: one too. But yeah, I just I appreciate every wonder.

609
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope I did root Are you kidding me?

610
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: You know you are incredible? And I hope everyone gets

611
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: her books a book make it nice on Amazona River

612
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: books are sold. But seriously, I just I appreciate you,

613
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: and good lucky if you know authentic, I'm I'm on

614
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: lovely I've gone through it. Your family want to make

615
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: a question, I have a chat. I'm here. I would

616
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: love that. I mean, I'm a good listener. I you are,

617
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you and I will take you up

618
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: on that. So thank you so much. I appreciate you. Okay,

619
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Speaker 1: I am obsessed with her, Kenvill, can you please pop

620
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: on right now? And Kendall is our new? Um? How

621
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: how would you call yourself a producer? What? What's what's

622
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: the new Kendall? Uh name for Kendall? Yes, so my

623
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: title actually is a podcast researcher. Okay, well, welcome Kendall

624
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: to wind down. Um, I'm obsessed with Drenda and now

625
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: I want to go back and watch every single housewife

626
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: like show that she was on. You will be obsessed.

627
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, she is just a ball of energy and amazing.

628
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: But like I couldn't like the entire time that we

629
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: were like on the interview, was like she probably doesn't

630
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: like yell at people or like was like was she

631
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: like a start? She was a mediator, like you know,

632
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: was very level headed, but there was times we were

633
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: like whoa like? Especially right now, I feel like you

634
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: probably couldn't tell, but she is so much fun in

635
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: a fan favorite. And I know for all the Real

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Speaker 1: Housewives fan they were like so upset that she wasn't

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Speaker 1: on this new season. Why wasn't she on? You know,

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Speaker 1: I think she just had her time. She's been on

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Speaker 1: it for years, and like she said, you know, it

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Speaker 1: was a gift she had, you know, the time to

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Speaker 1: sit down and work on her book and focus on

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Speaker 1: other things in life, and I think that she would

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Speaker 1: just maybe over it. My god, well I'm like, can

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Speaker 1: we really both crying? I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: But I just like I loved her. She's so sweet,

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Speaker 1: Like she's just like she has like such a great

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Speaker 1: energy and soul to her. So and she's the cutest

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Speaker 1: bond with her daughter, you know. I love that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she was the best. I hope you guys enjoyed that

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Speaker 1: and got some if you're in that spot of kind

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Speaker 1: of feeling stuck, like she said, you know, the past

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Speaker 1: is the past. Start start just focusing on today. I

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Speaker 1: know it's so much easier said than done, but um,

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Speaker 1: you are not alone, So you next week