WEBVTT - Josh Kelley

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<v Speaker 1>What's up everybody? Why do I always feel the need

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<v Speaker 1>to start shows like speaking differently than I normally do,

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<v Speaker 1>like with like a different energy. What's up everybody? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever talk I never talked like that? Why am

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<v Speaker 1>I talking like that? So you gotta start it differently

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<v Speaker 1>or weird or fun or something. I don't know. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't I just be like, Okay, here we go, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's myself. I don't know, I'm overthinking it. Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the Hills are coming back. And for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you out there, you might not remember,

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<v Speaker 1>but the beginning of this show was actually not called

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<v Speaker 1>the Wells Cast. It was called the Pratt Cast because

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie Pratt of The Hills had her own podcast. Steph

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<v Speaker 1>being Steph my Heart, had had asked if I would

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<v Speaker 1>help co host a show with her with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my radio background, kind of keep her between the mustard

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<v Speaker 1>and the mayonnaise, keep things on track, if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Steph left the show, moved to London. She go,

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<v Speaker 1>but the show is coming back. The Hills are coming

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<v Speaker 1>back with some even bigger names apparentl So we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, like what do we do here? Do we continue?

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<v Speaker 1>Doing the Wells Cast. We bring back some of the

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<v Speaker 1>Pratt Cast. We changed the name over to the Hills Cast,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what do we do? And I think paying homage

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<v Speaker 1>to the genesis of this show. We gotta do a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of Hillstock even though the person who you

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<v Speaker 1>know was on the show was no longer on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's whatever. We're gonna do it long Diet Tribe to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you the next week we're going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>Drey No, that's right now, we're gonna talk about Hills

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<v Speaker 1>season two coming back. All right, let's get out with

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<v Speaker 1>the show wrote it. This is a Wells Cast with

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<v Speaker 1>Wells Adams and I heart radio podcast. Welcome into the

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<v Speaker 1>Wells Cast. I'm your host, Wells Adams. Anyways, super pumped

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<v Speaker 1>about this show. And I'll tell you what. The guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming on today as a very similar story to mine.

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<v Speaker 1>He grew up playing golf as a kid, went the

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<v Speaker 1>same college as I did, moved to Nashville after college

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<v Speaker 1>just like I did, got super lucky in some how

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<v Speaker 1>was able to trick a famous beautiful actress into being

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<v Speaker 1>with them. Were like the same person, We're cut from

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<v Speaker 1>the same cloth. Now is he more talented? Than me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes is my mother reminded me of that every time

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<v Speaker 1>we speak. Yeah, am I working it out with my therapist? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not though, because we got bigger problems. This guy's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing it for a long time. Absolutely amazing musician.

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<v Speaker 1>He got offered a record deal when he was like fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to meet James Brown back then. His mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>debut for The Ride Home found a top five single

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<v Speaker 1>with Amazing, and his second album, Almost Honest, included a

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<v Speaker 1>top ten single Only You. He's appeared on the Today show,

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<v Speaker 1>Good Morning America, Ellen DeGeneres, That's the Night Show at

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Leno Lie with Regis and Kelly, Rachel Ray, Last Call.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean literally, the dude has done everything. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He also wrote the theme song for Mike and Molly

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<v Speaker 1>and if that wasn't all very impressive. He's married to

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<v Speaker 1>the one the Lee Katherine Heigel from Like Grey's Anatomy

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<v Speaker 1>or Under Siege or Knocked Up or if you're Josh

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<v Speaker 1>from My Father The Hero. His story is so cool,

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting, and he is so candid about his life.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a really really enjoyable interview for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>truly loved having this guy on this show so stick

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<v Speaker 1>around because it's coming up in the Wells cast an

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<v Speaker 1>episode you do not want to miss with the one

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<v Speaker 1>the Only Josh Kelly Yellow. Can you hear me? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear you. Fantast dude. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, man, this is awesome. There's some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of wonderful flex of doing an interview as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>instead of beats by dre headphones, they've got in ears in.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do appreciate that. The other day it looks

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<v Speaker 1>silly when I was where in my mind, but you

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<v Speaker 1>look cool with yours on. But I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, something about this face just looks

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<v Speaker 1>silly on on Skype with headpons on. Josh Kelly, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Wells gass dude. Good to see a man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you too. Our paths aligned a lot. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that? No? I didn't give me tell me why. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're a couple of years older than me. But

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Old Miss What yep. I was there

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<v Speaker 1>from two thousand two to two thousand seven Victory Lab. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's think here. So let's see I was nine nine, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got my record deal. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand two, so like right when you got

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<v Speaker 1>there is right? I was playing that was it like

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<v Speaker 1>the height of my old miss fame as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like playing the Sneaky Tiki and all those places, the

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<v Speaker 1>Sneaky teky Man. I remember that place. It's no longer there.

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<v Speaker 1>I played that. There was a venue called the Library.

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<v Speaker 1>I played a lot still there. There was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>different places, and I remember, basically like when I first

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<v Speaker 1>started writing songs that I knew, I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I think these are good. I would make

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<v Speaker 1>flyers and I put the flyers for the Sneaky Tiki

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<v Speaker 1>shows on every single sorority door and put it under there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would, you know, sometimes they would open the

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<v Speaker 1>door and be like, guys, I'm playing the show now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're gonna love it. I just kept on

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<v Speaker 1>like promoting it. And then at one point the Sneaky Tiki,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they were giving me three dollars ahead at

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<v Speaker 1>the door. And there was one night I had a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people there, so I was like a I was

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<v Speaker 1>still a dependent. I was like twenty years old and

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<v Speaker 1>I made three grand on a Thursday. I remember just going,

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<v Speaker 1>holy mold it. We in the money. Baby. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like at the time, I was dating this girl

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<v Speaker 1>at Brittany, I was like, dude, we're going out for shrimping,

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<v Speaker 1>grits and wine tonight. Baby, We're going to city grocery. Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. We're going to the city grocery. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have them fried bottom fetus. I think we basically just

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<v Speaker 1>missed each other at Old Miss, And then after that

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<v Speaker 1>I graduated from Old Miss with my journalism degree, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went and did radio in Nashville and worked at

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<v Speaker 1>Lightning one hundred for seven years and then I heart

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<v Speaker 1>after that. So I assumed you you must have been

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<v Speaker 1>gracing the Lightning one airwaves when I was there. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was in Lightning one hundred a lot

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<v Speaker 1>like Amazing was part of heavy rotation for a long time. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. I remember that, uh, And I remember there

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<v Speaker 1>was country radio stations and pop stations in Nashville that

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<v Speaker 1>we're playing Amazing, and um, you know what's funny about

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<v Speaker 1>that too, is that originally Amazing was a bluegrass song.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was trying to get a record deal in

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville in the very beginning. I got turned down somehow

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<v Speaker 1>got a pop deal in with Hollywood Records, and all

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<v Speaker 1>I did is just all we did is just changed

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<v Speaker 1>the song a little like, Yeah, we just changed the groove.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how closely related like country and pop music

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<v Speaker 1>really actually is. Its attitude and groove. That's the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's a little it different. Yeah, take out the

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<v Speaker 1>Mando and the Van Joe and now it's a pop song.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll be fine, it really is. So I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to all that, but I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of start the interview off with you and

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<v Speaker 1>I have Hotti Totty and I missed Nashville. You're no

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<v Speaker 1>longer there. You're in like Utah now right, Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>right right right outside of Park City, Utah. Congratulations. You

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<v Speaker 1>are one of the very few people in the music

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<v Speaker 1>industry that I've been able to put out music because

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<v Speaker 1>and I totally get it, you can't tour behind anything

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But you've got an unplugged record out now

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<v Speaker 1>right yea. You know, I mean, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you can see this, but this studio, this is my

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<v Speaker 1>mad scientist laboratory. And you know, over the years since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid. I think it's because my parents

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<v Speaker 1>never gave me out of all, I just ended up

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<v Speaker 1>learning like fifteen different instruments. So I produce everything, I

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<v Speaker 1>engineer everything, I mix it all, master at all. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I've always done it like that myself. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter really what happens and comes my way, I

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<v Speaker 1>I always will make music. I'll be making music until

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<v Speaker 1>I can't talk anymore. And because for lack of better words,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no overhead. I mean, I make everything here, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a little it's like a little factory. So

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<v Speaker 1>me during the pandemic, it just gave me an excuse

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of lose myself in the studio and spend

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<v Speaker 1>more time with the kids. And UM, I did a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of online shows, but I have written this is

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<v Speaker 1>the most prolific I've been in my whole life, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to sit around and do nothing

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<v Speaker 1>unplugged from upstream studios. Is upstream studios like your little

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<v Speaker 1>man cave. Yeah, it's this is actually a it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a farm. So it's a horse ranch, pigs, goats, chickens,

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<v Speaker 1>you name it, dog rescue. UM and my mother in

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<v Speaker 1>law buitless place, and there's this room at the very

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<v Speaker 1>sort of end like if you go outside these doors

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<v Speaker 1>as a bunch of horse stalls and all that. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was gracious enough to give me this space. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a nice big room because I used to create

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<v Speaker 1>at home, and and as much as I love that,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids are getting to the point now where they

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<v Speaker 1>will come in and you know, we want to hang

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<v Speaker 1>with Dad, and they will, you know, kind of take

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<v Speaker 1>me out of the moment I have to escape to

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to really create. And so it's this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is great that I can come here and

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<v Speaker 1>sort of get lost in the music and then go

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<v Speaker 1>back home and be dad. What can people expect from

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<v Speaker 1>this Unplugged record that they wouldn't normally from past releases? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean I grew up at the very

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of MTV Unplugged, and I used to love that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I used to love I mean, I remember I

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<v Speaker 1>could probably paint every frame of their Nirvana Unplugged and

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<v Speaker 1>the air Clapton one. And so over the last probably

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<v Speaker 1>four or five years, my team and I we've noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that my my my solo acoustic shows which I played

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<v Speaker 1>piano acoustic guitar sometimes, I mean I had my rig two.

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<v Speaker 1>So sometimes where I'm like, let's just have a dance

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<v Speaker 1>party and I'll just like press the space bar and

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<v Speaker 1>we just rock out. And there something about the solo

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<v Speaker 1>acoustics show that moves the needle more than the full

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<v Speaker 1>band show. I think it's because it's a variety show.

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<v Speaker 1>I can grasp my fans a little bit better and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make him laugh, make him cry, take him

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<v Speaker 1>through a sort of an emotional roller coaster. And because

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<v Speaker 1>of that, my fans have asked, you know, repeatedly on

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<v Speaker 1>social media for me to record the songs the way

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<v Speaker 1>I do them, you know, on the shows. And so basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, of it is there was their choice, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>songs that they chose, and then the other were some

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<v Speaker 1>of the new songs that I only got to do

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<v Speaker 1>three shows right before the pandemic that I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>those songs live and it was really moving the needle.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of them is a gospel song called hold

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<v Speaker 1>Me My Lord, and so I just kind of cherry

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<v Speaker 1>picked him and started recording them in here and kept

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<v Speaker 1>them really minimal, you know, just sup just not a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot going on, and very exposed, very naked, and

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<v Speaker 1>and it allows the voice and the message to really shine.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm really proud of it. I mean, it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of was just something that I did for fun, and

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<v Speaker 1>when I sent it into my team, they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're putting this out right. So that's kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>it happened, is very organically and having fun. You can

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<v Speaker 1>never really beat that. I used to always say that

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite bands to go see where three pieces because

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<v Speaker 1>there was nowhere to hide. You can't be bad at

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<v Speaker 1>your craft to a three piece, And I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>should revise that to what you're doing because you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be super vulnerable in that space. You are the

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<v Speaker 1>piano player, you are the guitar player, you are the

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<v Speaker 1>lead singer. I used to play music back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day and stuff, and there is something nice about being

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<v Speaker 1>able to hide behind people when you need to. Was

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<v Speaker 1>it a hard transition to be like, guess what, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just me now, you know? No, it was. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. It was two thousand fourteen. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia and I was about to play this show, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was in my hotel room and I just decided,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm allowed to say this or

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<v Speaker 1>not on the show. You can probably bleep it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to not. I didn't give it anymore. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't give a ship what people thought about me. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't give I don't care. I'm not going to censor

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<v Speaker 1>myself anymore. And because of that, it allowed me to

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<v Speaker 1>be authentically me and goof around, mess with people, make

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<v Speaker 1>them laugh, and then play a song about my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>and make him cry, like just instead of trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be someone else. It just it just literally was like

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<v Speaker 1>light bulb went off. And ever since that day, I

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<v Speaker 1>walk into shows going I'm about to mess these people

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<v Speaker 1>up like I and it and it's fun for me

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I've been doing it long enough now

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<v Speaker 1>to where I really know what I'm doing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>really really love it. I love it when people don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they're about to have an uncomfortable moment. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some shows, like acoustic shows, you're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so uncomfortable. Man. I make us a family

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<v Speaker 1>right off the bat, and and once we're a family,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's a variety show that we're all on together.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know about the science of creating the

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<v Speaker 1>set list because you're like me, my fiance is an actress,

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<v Speaker 1>your wife is an actress, and I've learned so much

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<v Speaker 1>just from being around her about character arc in stories,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of times should be like, well this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna happen, because this needs to happen, for this, this,

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<v Speaker 1>and this to happen. I'm like, I never even thought

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<v Speaker 1>about movies and TV shows that way. And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the question is that live music is very similar. You're

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<v Speaker 1>taking people on this emotional roller coaster. What's your blueprint

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<v Speaker 1>for setting that all up beforehand or is it all

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<v Speaker 1>off the cuff and just how the crowd is reacting

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<v Speaker 1>to Well, yeah, so it's it's for me, it's mainly

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<v Speaker 1>based on the crowd and they, you know, they based

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<v Speaker 1>on how what whether show is, what kind of show

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<v Speaker 1>it is, what the venue is. I tailored that to

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd for sure. What I what I make is

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<v Speaker 1>a cheat sheet. So I make I will write down

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<v Speaker 1>a list and very big black sharpie on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>of like forty songs, and I kind of put little

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<v Speaker 1>little cartoons next to some of them, like hey make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you you know hit these these are the most

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<v Speaker 1>important ones for this kind of venue. And then based

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<v Speaker 1>on the crowd, I sort of organically kind of decide

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of journey I'm going to take them on

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<v Speaker 1>based on how they're reacting. If it's like a chill crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>like let's say it's a hotel cafe in l A.

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<v Speaker 1>Or let's say, like in Boston, it is a city winery,

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<v Speaker 1>and those people are there, they pay, they pay top

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<v Speaker 1>dollar to wine and dine and to really listen to music.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's a totally different experience. I don't have to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like if I'm doing a festival and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of drunk idiots, it's completely different, like an

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<v Speaker 1>outdoor thing, you know where it is, And so I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do tailor it towards that. Um it's the

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<v Speaker 1>people will let me know what kind of journey they

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<v Speaker 1>want to go on. But I think usually my big

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<v Speaker 1>thing is is I love to make people laugh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love stupid Dad ones and jokes and all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and coming up with him, and I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm flying from here to New York or Boston

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<v Speaker 1>or something, I spend the majority of the flight coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with new jokes and it's really fun. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them suck, and those are the funniest ones. What's more,

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<v Speaker 1>gratifying doing like let's say a show that would be

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<v Speaker 1>outdoors or at the festival where where people aren't paying

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<v Speaker 1>as much attention as you'd like and then winning them over,

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<v Speaker 1>or from jump Street playing a show, or everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>just already hanging on every word. Dude. I will give

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<v Speaker 1>you an example. So I did this. I was headlining

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<v Speaker 1>this country festival and I can't remember was in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of nowhere. I mean, I don't even know where

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<v Speaker 1>this place was on the map, but it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an outdoor festival, and right before me, a

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<v Speaker 1>full band with like smoke and it come out of

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<v Speaker 1>cannons played and then all of a sudden, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>me and acoustic and are and this one dude, super drunk,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of young guy. He kept going play Garth Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>and he was so loud, and there's probably three thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people there they could all hear him play Garth Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>The old me would have just like kind of shrunk into,

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<v Speaker 1>like just shrunk in and just like gotten through the show.

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<v Speaker 1>The new me that doesn't give a shit, starting in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand fourteen, said, um, I think I think what

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<v Speaker 1>I said is I said, is there any security here?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, see that guy over there yelling Garth Brooks,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, can you get that mother effort out of here?

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<v Speaker 1>And the crowd erupted and then I had him. We

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<v Speaker 1>were together. They clapped and the dude got escorted out

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, we're a family, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And and then the show was great. Before that, all

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<v Speaker 1>I could hear is this guy kept on saying that

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again. Play Garth Brooks and I love

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<v Speaker 1>Garth Brooks, but no, not right now. And it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the things that I've learned just

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, Like you know, there's gonna be outside

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<v Speaker 1>forces that try to can mess you up and skip

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<v Speaker 1>you up, and you just don't give it a heartbeat,

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of it or play with it, don't shrink.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once that mother was kicked out, you brought

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<v Speaker 1>the house down with color on baton rouge and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. It was fun, man, it was very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>When when I was at Old Miss, I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>there on a golf scholarship. So we're gonna get into

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<v Speaker 1>all that. Don't worry about this because now you've got

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<v Speaker 1>me thinking about Old Miss Man. That was so fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a great place. Speaking of all this live music, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's it's about to happen, or it's like

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<v Speaker 1>slowly happening. I was talking to Russell Dickerson on my

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<v Speaker 1>other podcast and he was like, dude, were about to

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<v Speaker 1>release a tour. You've got a tour coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>the fall of It's happening. We're back. I'm so excited. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, right when the pandemic happened, I

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<v Speaker 1>finished three shows and and we were still I was

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<v Speaker 1>still thinking about going to Atlanta and finishing out that

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<v Speaker 1>next little part of the run, and my wife was like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure? And then next thing, you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>manager calls me and she was like, no, no, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not going anywhere. But what I did during that is,

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you the positives of COVID For me,

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<v Speaker 1>there was actually I hate saying this, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them. Um. The positives are I created

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<v Speaker 1>a much better and closer relationship with my fans. My

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<v Speaker 1>social media following doubled, and because I just became more involved,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I spent a whole week researching how to

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<v Speaker 1>how to create my own really great online live shows

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<v Speaker 1>with multiple cameras UM using and using o b S

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<v Speaker 1>online broadcast service and but like really owning it UM

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was kind of one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>guys that I know of during it that really hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground running with the live shows online. I had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, three camera set up. I switched the cameras

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<v Speaker 1>with my toes and it was so fun. Man, it

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<v Speaker 1>was really cool and I was able to do these fun,

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<v Speaker 1>quirky things that I do. But I will tell you this,

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<v Speaker 1>there are subtle things that you do in a live show,

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<v Speaker 1>really subtle things that do not translate online. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so looking forward to October because the tour got pushed

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<v Speaker 1>four times. In October, It's happening and I am ready

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<v Speaker 1>two to have a tangible experience with other humans, well

0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:29.919
<v Speaker 1>everyone out there. You can go get your tickets at

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<v Speaker 1>a Josh Kelly dot com. And the new unplugged record

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<v Speaker 1>is called Unplugged from Upstream Studios. It's out now on

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<v Speaker 1>Spotify and Apple Music and everywhere you can everywhere you

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<v Speaker 1>can get music out. Is there anything else that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about or promote before we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>pivot over to my portion of the show. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just tell you too. Like the album that came

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<v Speaker 1>out in November is called My Baby in the Band,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just printed let's see if I have it

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<v Speaker 1>right here. We it's my first time ever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>basically printing vinyl, like doing it on my own. Check

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<v Speaker 1>this out, dude. So we got this. This is actually

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<v Speaker 1>a picture that of my wife and I when we

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<v Speaker 1>were in New York in our honeymoon phase where we

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where everything was sparkles and butterflies. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to choose the color, dude. I have a huge vinyl

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<v Speaker 1>collection and I don't have one that's read and I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Yeah, it's like lipstick red. So we're selling

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<v Speaker 1>these on online on my website and I'm I'm personalizing

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<v Speaker 1>and signing every one of them. So when people get

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<v Speaker 1>the record, you just have to put in the and

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<v Speaker 1>the comments like this is first stay Facious loves Jeremy

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<v Speaker 1>Day and and I'll put it on and I put

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<v Speaker 1>it on there. It's fun, man, I love it. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're like a homegrown one stop shop over here and

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<v Speaker 1>it's my wife and I and it's actually really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back to being an independent artist again because we've

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<v Speaker 1>thought about doing the major label thing again. But but

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is is, I'm forty one now, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>so many great relationships. We were really moving the needle

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<v Speaker 1>on our own with our partnerships and like digital distribution everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody's buying when's the last time you bought a CD?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think they make cars with CD players anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's over right, Yeah, so I don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're just gonna stay kind of homegrown, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for as long as we can. And I'm loving it. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's more fun. I can put out a song

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<v Speaker 1>a day if I want to, instead of having to

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<v Speaker 1>wait for your place in line. It's definitely the way

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<v Speaker 1>the future, man, the way the industry is moving, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes the most sense. Or like, just do it like

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<v Speaker 1>Isabel did, and like start your own label and then

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<v Speaker 1>that's effectively what you're doing anyways, and you're putting out

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what we've done. Yeah, we start our own label,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just partnered with the distribution company, which is

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:44.879
<v Speaker 1>what major labels do anyway. And if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go on a radio tour, just get alone. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>a breaker deal is. It's a loan. So I hate

0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:51.400
<v Speaker 1>saying that because now somebody's going to call me after

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<v Speaker 1>this and be like, I don't know whatever, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>give it. I don't think our c A is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear what happened on the Wells guest this weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Kelly would typical Josh Jops quick break. When we

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<v Speaker 1>come back. I don't know if anyone told you, but

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<v Speaker 1>my show's origin stories. I like to find out where

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<v Speaker 1>people came from and how they got here, the success

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:20.280
<v Speaker 1>stories that you had along the way, the blueprint that

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<v Speaker 1>you have created for yourself that other people that listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this show can use in their life. So when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back, we're gonna find out where the hell

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<v Speaker 1>Josh came from and why the he is on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Stick around and you're listening to the Welles Cast, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a nut all right? Back in the Wells Cast. Very

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<v Speaker 1>excited to have Josh Kelly on the show. New Unplugged

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<v Speaker 1>record out right now. It's called Unplugged Upstream Studios. You

0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 1>can download its, stream it whatever over on the Internet.

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And then of course the Fall tour is coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in October. Grab your tickets at Josh Kelly dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that you're opening up in Nashville at City Winery,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the place that's near and dear to my heart,

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<v Speaker 1>love that place. I love all those venues because it's

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<v Speaker 1>perfect for what I do. It's the perfect size audience.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the it's people that get my jokes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to spend that much money on the ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>They get my jokes. I hate saying that, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of my stuff falls flat for anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>you know nineteen or younger, So I am in your

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>age bracket, and I too love that. I don't know,

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 1>like for people that don't know. It's kind of like

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>dinner theater but with with musicians, and it's so wonderful.

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 1>The food is great, like this is now turning into

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.359
<v Speaker 1>a City Winery plug but the food is great, the

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>wine is great. And then it's also just like good vibes.

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 1>It's a bunch of people that like are there for

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.679
<v Speaker 1>the same reason, like just to enjoy music sitting together.

0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.399
<v Speaker 1>You never know who's at your table other than the

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.720
<v Speaker 1>people that you rot. It's awesome. Yeah, no, they spent

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:04.720
<v Speaker 1>they spent their money. I think there's like ten of

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>them now and they spent money on making sure like

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.199
<v Speaker 1>when you go there, it sounds like a freaking record,

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 1>like the sound system, the engineers that are there, I mean,

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.919
<v Speaker 1>it's it sounds like. That's why I always tell them

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to him, like when you please record the show for me,

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 1>because I want to be able to use this because

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 1>that sound quite so good. So that's that's what it is.

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 1>It's all about vibe. It's almost like you're going to

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 1>like a distillery or something. You need to take a tour,

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like it looks like that nice and oki. Yeah, like

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that kind of like oky places, floody. Everyone makes sure

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>you go download the new Unplugged record now grab your tickets.

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 1>I want to pivot over to my portion of the show.

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kind of fascinated with how successful people became

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>successful and like what trials and tribulations you ran into

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>along the way. When we started the show off talking

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>about how we both went to Old Miss but you

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>know we got there in different avenues. I from California

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.959
<v Speaker 1>and you were born in Georgia, right, yeah, originally Augusta, Georgia,

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Home of the Masters. Yeah, which the tradition unlike any

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>other I know, you went to Old Miss on a

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>golfing scholarship and we will get there. But you grew

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>up in Augusta. Have you played Augusta? I have? You know,

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I've been very lucky to have some friends who um

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.400
<v Speaker 1>are members, and they've been very kind to me, and

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, allowed me and my family and us to

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 1>go out there and play. And it really is the

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>most incredible, most beautiful experience. I hope that my buddy

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Ernie is listening to this because I really like to

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>rub that in. There's something Bad's the most beautiful place

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>in the world, and it's weird. It's like its own

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like its own country inside of the city of Augusta.

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't get in, and if you get in,

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't get out. It's like one of those things.

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 1>It's its own little world, and it is a glorious,

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>beautiful world. Very rarely does anyone trump me on being

0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 1>from a more badass golf mecca because I'm from Pubble Beach.

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>But I do think that you win because anyone can

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>go play Pebble, but not everyone can go play Augustina. Dude,

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Pebble is not talk about an unbelievable experience. I think

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually going to be doing when they when when

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>they allow the celebrity pro am to happen again, it

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 1>looks like I'm going in. My little brother does it

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>all the time. My younger brothers, Charles Kelly from the

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>band Lady and A Bellum now called Lady A and Um.

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, he does it every year. And I used

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to do all these pro ams and then finally my

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>wife was like, if you're not making money, you can't

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>just leave us for a week. So I what I

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>always do now is I'll always call whoever is like

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>putting on the celebrity pro am. I'm like, hey, if

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you need entertainment, just think of think of me, because

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 1>then I can I can justify going. So you were

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>born in Augusta, Georgia. Is it just you and your

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>brother or do you have other siblings? Know, there's six

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>of us with a brady bunch, the girls, three boys

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and uh you know Charles and I. Well, actually my

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>older brother. The reason we got into music is my

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>older brother on you know, took us everywhere with him

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and I honestly I can't thank him enough for that,

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Like everywhere he went, even with his friends. We were

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>in his beat up car, listening to led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath,

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Jethro Tolls, Supertramp Like. He just immersed us with music.

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 1>And then when he he went off to college, he

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>was on a golf scholarship at wake Forest and he

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 1>came home one day with like some pawn shop guitar

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and when he went back to school, he accidentally left

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>it there. And when he came back a month later,

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I had already taught myself a couple of led Zeppelin

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 1>songs and he was like, well, I guess I'm giving

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>this thing to you. Like he couldn't take it from

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 1>me after that, And so that's really how music started

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>for us. And um, we made a drum set for

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Charles out of pots and pans, and next thing you know,

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>we're just jamming all the time. And I felt like

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Charles and I put in our ten thousand hours before

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>we ever even got to college. That's how music started

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>for us, just gigging around. We had a band called

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 1>Inside Blue. I remember that James Brown's manager, Larry Friday,

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to sign us to a record deal. I

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>remember this. We were like fifteen and fourteen. He was like,

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you'll have a record release party and in New York

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 1>will have all the finest ladies and all this kind

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. We were like, yeah, Larry, and my dad

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>came to the meeting and he was like, nope, you

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>do any addition. We were so mad at my dad,

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>but thank god he said no, because who knows where

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>we'd be right now. I'd probably still be new music,

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>but I'd probably be on the side of sleeping on

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>a park bench and in California somewhere. I had read

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that like in in meeting uh those people and being

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>offered that uh that deal that you got to actually

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>meet James Brown though oh yeah, wow, I'm a huge

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>James Brown fan, and yeah we got to meet James Brown.

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I still can remember the feeling of his hand on

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the handshake. It was like it was like a like

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>a like a really he had a really thick hand too,

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and it was like a like an old like baseball glove.

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I could I swear. I can still feel. It's like

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>dry baseball glove hands and and it and it it

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>was so like nice and warm and nurturing handshake. He

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>was like hello, young man. I was like hey, Mr Brown,

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and he was so cool man. It was just a

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>cool dude. Uh, and I got to I think we

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>met him again too when we were my little brother

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>was getting like allergy shots. He was at the allergy

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>shot doctor and my mom was like, my boys would

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>love to shake your hand. He's so nice man. Yeah,

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>we got to meet James. That was great. You put

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>in your ten thousand hours before you went to college,

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>but I guess you also put in your ten thousand

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>hours before you went to college for golf as well,

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>because you went to Old Miss on a golf scholarship.

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>At the time. Were you like, I'm gonna be a

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>musician or were you like I'm gonna be the next

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Tiger Woods? You know, I didn't. I didn't know. All

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I knew is that I wanted to to to get

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>far enough away from Augusta where I could kind of

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>like started. I mean, I loved my growing up in

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>august It was amazing. It was a perfect place to

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>grow up and have the opportunities to learn music and

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>and golf and all those kind of things. But I

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>just I've always been kind of a loner and I

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>need space, you know, to to kind of you know,

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>blossom and being myself. And so I was I was

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>very excited about golf, but music has always been sort

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>of like the dream. And I remember when I was

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a kid, tell him my little brother. I was like,

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm I think I'm gonna doing music for a job.

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>And remember him going, no, no, you can't, man, nobody

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>does that. They're born into it. I was like, I

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. I think they're just normal people. It

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>just you know, worked really hard, and so it was

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>always in the back of my mind. And I think

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>what happened is is once I started realizing that I

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>was going on more dates because of music and not

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>golf when I was in college, I really just sort

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>of organically started steering myself in that direction and and

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 1>then it just, you know, it happened out of nowhere.

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I how many times I haven't

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>really said this very much about how I did it,

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>but I remember when I came up with my little,

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>for lack of better words, scheme online scheme. At the time,

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it was like two thousand or two one,

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I knew it was gonna work, and it involved Napster,

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>remember Napster. Of course, what happened is is that you know,

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I was making music that I really that I liked

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and I and I was like, I need to get

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>my music out there. And you know, I had already

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>had Napster and I was, you know, getting music and

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>at the time, Napster basically it's like if somebody in

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:40.479
<v Speaker 1>let's say Braithwait Louisiana, had their laptop open and and

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>we're sharing their library songs, you know, you could take

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>from their laptop and you know, share it through the

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Internet onto yours. And so I realized one day, by accident,

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I right clicked on somebody's unique user name, and all

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, this little thing popped up on Napster.

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>It was like, basically you could send them a message,

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and I went really, and so every single day I

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>would type in a new artist, Like first day I

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>typed in James Taylor, and then a hundred results of

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>unique users that were sharing James Taylor songs basically came

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>up on a list and so I sent a hundred

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>people that day a mets is saying, Hey, I noticed

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>that you like James Taylor. Why don't you try this

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>kid out I just found named Josh Kelly. You're gonna

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>love him. What was your user name? Did you have

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>a different user names of people weren't like I don't

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>even remember who knows what it was. It was probably

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>something stupid. I think it actually was something stupid. It

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>was like change basket or something like that. But it

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like Josh Kelly at Gmail and they're like this

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>guy Josh Kelly is telling me to go check out this.

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>It was. No, it wasn't. I prided myself on coming

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>up with clever names, and now I'm older, old enough

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to realize that none of those things using names the

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>game at would be clever at all. But yeah, I

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>did it a hundred times a day for I think

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>about two months, you know, and I would go to

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:58.959
<v Speaker 1>the library at Old Miss and do it because there

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>was a firewall, so you know, nobody knew what my

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>IP address was. And basically after about two three weeks,

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even have to have my laptop of the

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>open anymore to to share to host my songs. People

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>were sharing them on their own. They so many people

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>have downloaded my stuff that it, for lack of better words,

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of went viral and napster. And then I remember

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>one of my recipients about two months into it, I

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>think I was basically had like typed in like Stevie

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Wonder or something. I said, hey, if you like Stevie Wonder,

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna love Josh Kelly and and all of a sudden,

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>for the first time in two months, somebody actually like

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>sent me a message back and said, hey, I love

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. Who is this guy? And I said, well,

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 1>it's actually me. I'm just trying to get my music

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>out there. And he goes, well, I'm an A and

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>R guy for Hollywood Records. Can I call you tomorrow?

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>And I gave him my number and I thought it

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>was BS, and all my friends were like, this is BS,

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>And all of a sudden, he called me the next day,

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and six months later I had a record deal, and

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a year later I had, you know, one of the

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>highest played songs on the radio. And it really all

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>happened a little bit too fast, but it happened. That's ingenious, dude.

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I wish what I knew. I wish at the time

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I knew what I was doing with social media, I

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>would be a billionaire, but I just all I cared

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 1>about was getting the music out. I didn't realize it

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.919
<v Speaker 1>like people wanted to communicate on a platform. If only

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you had known that Instagram was going to be a

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>thing out of flowing my helicopter too. I'd be right

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>there in person with you right now. So that all happens,

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>you become this kind of huge name. You somehow hacked Napster,

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>which is genius. What happens next? The A and R

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>guy asked me to send him music. So I burned

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>a CD, and and I was an art major at

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Old MRS. So I used the art department to make

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>like a really cool CD cover and all this kind

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>of and so you know, remember the Mac computers that

0:34:57.560 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>were looked like an ice cube. Yeah, that's what I

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 1>made it on. And so I sent him the music

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and he loved it. But and he, you know, and

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I was I was really talking myself up to him

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>when I was on the phone. I mean, and I

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I talked to him like every week. I

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't let I wanted to be on his frontal lobes

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>at all times, because by god, this was gonna happen.

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And so I sent him music, and I was telling

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>him how the shows, where I probably was embellishing them

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I was like, dude, there's like ten

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>thou people here, you know, and he came out to

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>see He came out to see a show, and you know,

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>I think he liked what he saw. And then we

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>just kept on chatting and then at one point he

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, let me fly you out here to l

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>A and he flew me out. And I played for

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the A and R team, you know, at the record

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>label on the Disney lot. And here's the problem. I

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know how I got away with this, but or

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>how I'm even got in the business, because I showed

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 1>up with berking stocks, uh frat boy hair, a golf

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>shirt and raggedy khaki shorts and I played my songs

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and I remember, you know, going back home and in

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>that called him. I said, you know, how how did

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>it go? They were like, hey, they really like you

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and they loved the song, but they don't think you're

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a star. And I was like, what not a star?

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's because dude, I showed up in sand you

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 1>know what an idiot? You know? But I was. That

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>was me and I remember going, well, I think what

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I said to him, I said, go over them. He

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>goes that. They don't want to. You know, the in

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>our team didn't want to take a chance on you.

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I said, we'll go over their heads then go to

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>someone else, and he literally went to the general manager

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and played them the song because I asked him to

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>go over their head and the general man was like,

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>why are we not what? This is a hit? And

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the next thing, you know, I had the deal. It

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>was almost not gonna happen. And I think at the time,

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I just I wish I still had that fire. You know,

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm still looking for that guy sometimes. That was you know,

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna happen to come hell or high water,

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and I lost him a little bit. But it was

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 1>very interesting. You know, when you have that that much

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>will and you is you know, you know you're gonna

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 1>make it happen, it always seems like things just kind

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>of do you know. It's so funny because I have

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>this conversation with a lot of really successful people, a

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of actors and musicians and stuff. In that time

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>of your life, there is no plan B. And so

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>when you have no plan B, it makes it really

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>really easy to be like super hungry because there is

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>no fallback. Yeah, there's no there's no doubt. I mean,

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember being you know, having all this

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 1>nervous energy back then that was a little almost kind

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 1>of manic, you know, I mean it was it was

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>all I thought about. It's all I focused on. I remember,

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, praying for a record deal, and I had

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>a ritual every night that I did. I literally would

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I would kneel down next to my bed when I

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 1>was at Old Miss, I would need on next to

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>the bed. I made sure no covers were touching me

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and nothing on the floor was touching my legs or anything.

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>It was like, it was like this crazy ritual, and

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I was praying for a record deal. Everything that I

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about, everything I was doing, was focused on that.

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 1>So if there was any angles that were coming at

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>me that maybe nowadays I probably wouldn't see it, then

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I was so focused on anything that could even fit

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>in the category of helping me to get a record deal,

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>I saw it at all times, you know, and I

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:18.360
<v Speaker 1>pulled those things in. So it was interesting how I

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>look back on that time my life where you know, yeah,

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was gonna make it happen, you know,

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't going to be Hollywood Records, and if

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't have gone over their heads to get to

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the GM, we were going to go to Columbia. We're

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna go somewhere else. I was going to knock on

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>doors until it happened, And you know, I am actually

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>finding that guy again. I will tell you what's helped

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>is I stopped drinking bourbon. Oh boy, I mean me,

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>my brother is my family. We have very addictive personalities,

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and I spent a lot of the last whatever fifteen

0:38:55.280 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 1>years being uh, not the best version of myself, a

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>bad guy or anything, just just always like living in

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>a low hanging fog. Over the last two months, I've

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>been so clearheaded. I am running on functioning on all

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>cylinders again, and now I'm addicted to that. Yeah, I

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 1>love it, dude. I love being sharp and and really

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>getting stuff done and like you know, and like turning in.

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm writing a new song every day or every other

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.399
<v Speaker 1>day with an artist and sometimes different countries. And I'll

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>do the demo after we're done on the zoom and

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>then I send the song in and it's like that

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>stuff makes me super happy. Now. I don't know why,

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I just love it. I assume you got signed to

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Records. Was it a good deal? Yeah, yeah, it

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>was a good deal. I you know, I had actually

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>my A and R guy at the time. He found

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>me a good lawyer, you know, I mean, and I

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>will tell you this, like if there's any young kids

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>who are thinking about doing this, and you know, and

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 1>here's some advice that I wish that I would have

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>been given. I got two things. The first thing is

0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to show my parents that I could do it.

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't need their help. I could do it all

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>my own. I regret that I wish that I would

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>have involved my dad and you know, my mom and

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody else, because there's a certain wisdom that he would

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>have brought to the table. And there's mistakes that I

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>would not have made. I made a lot of them.

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 1>But now because of all those mistakes, I'm when if

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a new young artist comes here and I'm writing with him,

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm able to teach that. The second little life lesson

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>which I did, hold on to my very first producer

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 1>who produced all that. His name is John Alasia. He

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>produced John Mayer's first record, Jason Mraz Lifehouse. You know,

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>we were like, it's like young singer songwriter, like factory.

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:43.439
<v Speaker 1>And he told me to never sell my publishing. He said,

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 1>it will be your retirement. It will be your kids

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>education one day and I took that to heart and

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I had there was a lot of people throwing a

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of big money at me back then, and he said,

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>just remember that whatever that figure is, it has to

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>last year basically the rest of your life. And and

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and then in a little way, you're kind of betting

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:06.399
<v Speaker 1>against yourself. So I never did it, and now here

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I am forty one, still own my publishing and it

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>literally is my retirement. It is my kid's education. Is

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>exactly what he said, So kids, don't bet against yourself

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>unless it's twenty million dollars. Didn't take it. Yeah, but

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 1>that mailbox money, baby, it's good stuff. I've wrote the

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>theme song for the TV show Mike and Molly and

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it got syndicated, and I will tell you that was

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>an answered prayer man, because before that I was running

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 1>low on dough. All of a sudden, out of nowhere,

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Kebmo and myself we got that theme song, and yeah,

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I needed it. That financial security, you know, man, entertainment

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>business is there's no guaranteed. You make your guarantees hopefully

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:56.240
<v Speaker 1>very true. Okay, so you signed with Hollywood. I assume

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you go on tour for a while. When did you

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>separate from them? Uh? So, let's see, I made two

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>records for Hollywood Records. So the song only You, that

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>was the first single off the second record, Only You.

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>That's how I met my wife. Really, Um, I had

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>just bought a house in Nashville, and because I wanted I,

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I was just ready to get back to the South

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and I bought us in Nashville. And the day after

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I bought the house, I had to go back to

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>l A and shoot a music video for the song

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>only You, and I didn't know who was gonna be

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the leading lady in it at all. But and then

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>when I met her, it was Captain Freak and Heigel,

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and I still didn't know then. I didn't know who

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 1>she was because nobody told me or anything. But we

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>were both under the Disney umbrella, you know, Hollywood Records.

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 1>She was on ABC doing grays Anatomy, and we hit

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>it off. Man, we hit it off, and we've literally

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>been together since that day and not until I can't

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 1>remember what it was. But when I was a kid,

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I was totally obsessed with her movie, um My Father

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>the Hero, but I didn't know that it was her

0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:02.239
<v Speaker 1>for a while. And literally when I found out it

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>was her, I went, I can't believe that somehow I

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>figured out how to find that girl in my life

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that I was totally in love with when I was thirteen?

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 1>How and the did that happened? And we've been together

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:18.320
<v Speaker 1>since two thousand five minutes? So I think Hollywood records

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.279
<v Speaker 1>for that. But after that record they let me go.

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't she also the daughter and under Siege? Was? Was she? Okay? Yeah,

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 1>your wife's done a lot of really cool movies. I mean,

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like Knocked Up Still is like one of my favorite.

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny and so well done. I remember that's

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:38.280
<v Speaker 1>actually when I proposed to her. Deft way through shooting

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that movie. I took her to the place where we

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 1>shot the video that the couple that owned it on

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Venice Beach, on the place they were like, yeah, of course,

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I said, I want to propose to her here. So

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>they let me go up there and set up a

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>whole thing, and I proposed to her on the rooftop

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 1>in Venice where we shot the video. Like did you

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>feel a spark immediately or you're like, oh, she's like

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a great actress and like this is no. I didn't

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>even know she was an actress, and I just I really,

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I tell people on my shows all the time. I

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.439
<v Speaker 1>cracked people up. I'm like, dude, I got Katherine Hygo

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>for twenty dollars Like that definitely wasn't gonna happen. I

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>mean what it talked about the sweet So I was

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>like right before Grey's Anatomy really hit, you know, so

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. We just hit it off, like we

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>were hitting it. We were in two separate buildings, so

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>we're like having this sort of love affair, you know,

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>through the windows while I'm playing music with my band

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and she's dancing through the music and this, you know,

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>basically whatever apartment on the other side. And then we

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.919
<v Speaker 1>started doing our scenes together. And when we did, that's

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>when I turned up the charm Southern charm Baby and

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I started working it. And it's crazy, man. We literally

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 1>we have been together since that day. We just hit

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it off, and you know, and I know this sounds

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>super cheesy, but she's definitely my freaking my soul jam.

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, we just we fight like cats and dogs,

0:44:57.120 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 1>but we just get each other many that's for and awesome. Man.

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>How long from shooting that to like first makeout session

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 1>a week first day, but she had a yeah, but

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 1>anything past that, she had like a two month rule.

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 1>And I've never heard of anybody having any rules. You know,

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't. The only rules I grew up

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 1>with there like you know, brush your teeth and go

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 1>to bed. I didn't know that those rules. And so

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 1>but I, you know, I was like, absolutely, you know,

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 1>anything you want, I got to cover it. So that

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>was great. Man. She's just, she's just, she's rad, she's fun.

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:39.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, she has a lot of respect for herself

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 1>and and and and I respect that. I think we

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 1>were definitely both in love. But I think when you

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<v Speaker 1>know you've got something pretty special, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to ruin it with that. You know,

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>there's more to life than that. So I'm glad that

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 1>she's taught me a lot. She's definitely made me a

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>way better person. And and you know, she's kind of

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 1>taught me how to see past myself. I can be

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>very self absorbed because I love making music, I love

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>what I do. I like to do my things. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned a lot from her, for sure, on how

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<v Speaker 1>to be how to how to not just keep myself

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, you know what I mean, like how to

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<v Speaker 1>be more present as a as a family man and

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<v Speaker 1>and and all that. So yeah, I'm very grateful. Yeah,

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 1>there's something to be said for getting involved with like

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 1>a super high functioning, powerful woman because I'm the same way.

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm super self absorbed. I do these shows about me

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and everything. And when I see her creative spark and

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 1>like her drive that I'm like, I gotta keep up

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 1>or I gotta try to at least, you know, and

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it you know, it's like you know, rising tides raises

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>all ships or whatever, and it's an important thing to

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 1>align yourself with someone who also is super driven or

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 1>as driven as you would like to be. You know.

0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 1>It makes life I feel like a lot easier. Yeah,

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 1>it's very interesting, you know what I mean. Like I've

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>never she's so freaking talented. Like you know, when I go,

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I forget sometimes that this is what she does for

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>living living, And like I went and she was doing

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 1>her Netflix show and and I you know, I'll sit

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.399
<v Speaker 1>right there next to director or whatever. Sometimes they'll give

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 1>me a chair, and I forget, My god, she's so

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>good this and it's effortless. She doesn't people get mad

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>at her because she doesn't have to. She will look

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 1>at like three pages of lines one time while you're

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.160
<v Speaker 1>doing your hair and knows them for the rest of

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the day. And everybody else is like studying their lines

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and like, how do you do that? Do you have

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a photographic memory? Like what is it? She goes, No,

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I just really try to understand the tone of the moment,

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>like what like I put myself in the that emotional scenario.

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:48.319
<v Speaker 1>And it's not so much that I've memorized all the lines.

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I memorized. I memorized the feet, the feeling, and and

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>so it allows her to she knows what it's gone.

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 1>She knows what's going on, you know what I mean?

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't. It's not like you can tell when an

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 1>actor is like really trying to pull from the member bank,

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 1>like what was that line? What was that line? And

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 1>they're like seeing it go through their head. She's just

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 1>pulling on the emotion and I'm like, you're genius, how

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>did you do that? And she's put in you know,

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:15.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand hours and I think that's how you do it.

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know if it blows my mind. Well, hey, man,

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to be respectful of your time. I generally

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>end the show before rapid fire questions with this question,

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>which is is there a credo or a motto or

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a rule that you live by that you've found that

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 1>helps you continue to be successful and whatever it is

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.319
<v Speaker 1>you do. God, that's a really going I have a

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 1>bunch of them. I'll tell you what I've learned in

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:43.760
<v Speaker 1>my last ten years of living. Honesty is so freaking huge.

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 1>You remember when you were a kid and you would

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you would have like a lie and you didn't want

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:50.759
<v Speaker 1>anybody to know. This line you would hold onto and

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>even if people knew, you would still just like you

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and it and it would it would eat you up

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 1>inside whatever you were hiding, it would eat you up inside.

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>And um and really kind of like just that nervous

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 1>energy can just kind of ruin your life. And and

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:07.400
<v Speaker 1>there was a time in my life where I just

0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 1>went honesty all the time, always, no more bs. When

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I had to do a lot

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>of bullshit for reasons I won't explain, but to for

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:18.959
<v Speaker 1>other people's feelings, you know, to make them feel better.

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Tell him everything's will be whatever. And and now I'm

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.840
<v Speaker 1>just I'm learning. I'm still not perfect at it. But

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 1>if you can be honest as you can throughout the

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:31.240
<v Speaker 1>day all the time, you won't You'll never have that nervous,

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:34.400
<v Speaker 1>niggling crap that can eat you alive. And yeah, definitely

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 1>it's very freeing, you know, even if it's bad, I

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>just you know, say it it's and it just freezy.

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:42.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like when Jerry McGuire's beating on the steering wheel

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>when he finally gets was it Kushman or whatever and

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the song plays and he's just so happy. I think

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like the relief that your body feels

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:53.360
<v Speaker 1>when you when you don't put yourself in bad situations anymore.

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Mean you're just honest about how you feel what is

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.359
<v Speaker 1>going on, and it just cuts through the bullshit. I

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:00.839
<v Speaker 1>work on this reality TV show where I'm kind of

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.440
<v Speaker 1>like therapist slash bartender, and a lot of people will

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 1>come up to me and they'll ask for advice and

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:08.399
<v Speaker 1>it's always the same, which which is what what you're

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>saying is. But the way that I say that is,

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, the truth always sells every single time.

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 1>If you lie, then you sound inauthentic because it's not

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 1>who you are, So just be who you are, and

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what nine times out of ten, Especially

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 1>in the reality TV world, everyone wants to be the

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 1>funny guy on TV. The truth is always much funnier

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 1>than whatever you've come in your mind because the truth

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.240
<v Speaker 1>is something that everyone can relate to. Oh yeah, I

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't go on the stakes. I have diarrhea. I

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.240
<v Speaker 1>ate too many times last night. So that's very true

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and like a hard to say, but it's hilarious and

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 1>everyone that watches will be like, I've been there too. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah,

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:47.839
<v Speaker 1>honestly is relatable and like I was saying, you know,

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 1>two fourteen, when I decided to be to not care

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 1>what people think, It's all I was doing is just

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<v Speaker 1>being authentically my honest self, my my true self. And

0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 1>after that, man, uh god, it is so freeing. I

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 1>don't I really don't get nervous for shows anymore. I

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 1>get excited and I already know I'm about to take

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:12.360
<v Speaker 1>people on an experience and it makes me. It is

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:14.840
<v Speaker 1>better than any drug. I swear it is the best.

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Before I lets you go, you're ready for some rapid

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.759
<v Speaker 1>fire questions. Oh god, okay, God, I'm so bad at

0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>these all right, I'm ready, alright. Rapid fire questions with

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Josh Kelly. First of all, on favorite pizza topping, Oh uh,

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:30.360
<v Speaker 1>sausage and black olives. You have a favorite book, Malcolm

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Gladwell Outliers. First constant every went to? Uh? That was

0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Vince Gill with my mom. First job you ever had

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:41.720
<v Speaker 1>was at Hickory Ham. I was glazing Hams and making

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the most amazing sandwiches for lunch people's lunch time experience.

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Aside from your wife, who's the most famous person in

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:52.440
<v Speaker 1>your phone, and maybe also aside from your brother Ashton Kutcher.

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>That's a good one. First record cassette or CD you

0:51:55.200 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 1>bought Pearl jam Tin nice? Favorite superhero? My favor superhero

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 1>was Hulk Holgan. Maybe I only he wasn't superhero, but

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was at as a kid, I always

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:09.360
<v Speaker 1>had him making out with Barbie, but Barbie was so

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:12.959
<v Speaker 1>much taller. He had to overcome, you know, he needed

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:17.680
<v Speaker 1>something to overcome. Physical trait. You noticed first about someone

0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you're attracted to, Oh man, it's just vibe usually yeah,

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:25.440
<v Speaker 1>confident in their own skin, so physical traits. So I

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 1>would say, how they hold himself while they're smiling? Did

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you have a celebrity crush when I was a kid? Yeah,

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean it literally was the girl from my father

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:37.799
<v Speaker 1>The Hero and then Marrier. I swear god, it is

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 1>so weird. I can't believe it. I can still I could.

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen that movie and forever and I can

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:46.280
<v Speaker 1>still like paint you a few of my favorite frames

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 1>that have been stained in my memory since. Josh Kelly

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:55.319
<v Speaker 1>truly Winning It Life, The Unplugged from Upstream Studios is

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>out now, go stream it, downloaded by it. He's got

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>vine for sale at Josh Kelly dot com. Don't forget

0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 1>about the Fall tour again. Also tickets available at Josh

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Kelly dot com. Where can people find you on social

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 1>media or on Napster for that matter, Yeah, Naster and

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 1>there funny. So Josh B. Kelly, my midnime is Bishop.

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Actually always wanted to go by like Bishop Kelly is

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:20.800
<v Speaker 1>my my stage name, but they wouldn't let me. So

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:24.080
<v Speaker 1>it's Josh Josh B. Kelly and Kelly spelled k e

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 1>l l e y. And we do some pretty goofy

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 1>funny ship there too, man. So it's it's actually been

0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun for me to build that following up.

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:34.759
<v Speaker 1>My wife thinks that my following is cute. That's what

0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:37.759
<v Speaker 1>she calls. Yeah, I feel like four million. I think

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I have like a hundred thousand, and she's like, oh,

0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:43.959
<v Speaker 1>that's adorable, honey. Yeah, dude, I'm in the same boat

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 1>as you. Bro. Hey, let's play. Yes, let's play some

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 1>golf soon, dude, let's do it. I'm in let's do

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 1>it all right, Hotty Tide. Brother, thank you so much

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 1>for being on the show. It was really wonderful talking

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.920
<v Speaker 1>with you. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. Man. Alrightee man,

0:53:55.960 --> 0:54:02.400
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0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:06.680
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