1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: This is John, this is the m Okay Storytime podcast hosts, 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: and we. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: Have some. 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Good stories coming up for you. That's right. But before that, 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: we have a little morsel of a two minute at 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: break from the sponsors keeping the show delicious. 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: Hmmm. 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: I lied to my boyfriend about my childhood secret and 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: finally told him the truth imaginary friend. I'm aware that 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: this is a terrible thing to do, and I will 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: live with the guilt of it my whole life and 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: cannot apologize enough to those affected by this. When I 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: was starting eighth grade, I went into a completely new 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: school district due to bullying at my old school. I 15 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: still had one friend from my old school who I 16 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: texted daily. Will call her Molly. By the way, this 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: comes from square efficiency five by three, and if you 18 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: want to submit your own stories, go to the r 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: slash Okay Storytime separated it. I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, and 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: we're here to give good advice goof Lee, But we 21 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do, 22 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: So let us know what you would do in the 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: comments and Opisa, Mollie and I had this idea to 24 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: see how long I could convince the students at the. 25 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: School that I was color blind. 26 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: I am not, and we decided it would be easiest 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: for me to pretend to see in just black and white, 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: which I'm pretty certain is not a thing, so I 29 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: wouldn't get stumped if people tested me. Unfortunately for me, 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: I was quite convincing, and nobody ever called me out 31 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: if they doubted me. I went on to fall out 32 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: of contact with Molly because she stabbed me in the back, 33 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: and was then worried everyone would hate me when I 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: came clean alone without her to defend that we had 35 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: come up with it together. At this point, I had 36 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: made a whole new friend group who believed me, and 37 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: the entire school that knew me also knew that I 38 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: was colorblind. Fast forward to meeting my now boyfriend. Nothing special, 39 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: just lucky on a dating app. He was everything I 40 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: was looking for and I couldn't have been more happy 41 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: and still am. We have never fought in the two 42 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: years we've been together, apart from silly debates about SpongeBob 43 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: plots and what kinds of food is better. I love 44 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: it more than anything and I want to spend my 45 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: life with him. However, I don't believe I deserve to 46 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: have that. When we started getting serious, he met my 47 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: best friend since high school, and in the meeting, my 48 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: color vision came up, and rather than come clean to 49 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: my best friend, I decided to lie to my boyfriend, 50 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: and I feel terrible to this day. My issue is 51 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: I don't believe I can continue to go forward when 52 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: there is this lie hanging over the whole relationship. For 53 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: no reason. I feel I have done the equivalent to 54 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: cheating on him by lying for our entire relationship. I 55 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: know I have to come clean, and I'm going to 56 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: and hope for the best. I suppose I simply would 57 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: like advice on how to best go about it. His 58 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: family also believes I'm also color blind. Feel free to 59 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 2: rip me a new one in the comments. I deserve 60 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: it for faking a disability, and I take full responsibility 61 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: and will not claim I was a child and didn't understand. 62 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: I knew I was wrong, and I regret it edit 63 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: that I was telling me to add to the lie 64 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: or not helping. I know summer jokes. My issue isn't 65 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: I'm scared he'll figure it out. I want him to know. 66 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: I simply want a smart way of going about telling him. 67 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: Comment one, Listen, I once convinced a priest was my 68 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: twin when I was in seventh grade. Except I don't 69 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: have a twin. I'm an only child. That's what kids do. 70 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: They ever around. In your case, you're finding out a 71 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: little too late. If I can come clean and risk 72 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: internal damnation with a man of the cloth. He ended 73 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: up finding it hilarious, but did recommend therapy. I'm sure 74 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: you can come clean to folks, because it's effing funny. 75 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: Common two says, I am legitimately blind in one eye, 76 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: and almost everyone I know constantly forgets about it. I 77 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: have no idea why anyone would give a single f 78 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: about whether or not someone was colorblind, let alone bring 79 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: it up constantly. Common three, here's the thing. You've been 80 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: feeling shame about this for so long you've lost perspective. 81 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: So I'll tell you this is objectively hilarious. It's also 82 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: not that big of a deal. You told a lie 83 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: as a kid to get attention. You didn't hurt anybody 84 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: with this lie. You got in too deep and kept 85 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: it up to avoid embarrassment in high school, probably when 86 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: the shame started getting tangled into it, because you knew 87 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 2: by that point that it's a little cringe to tell 88 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: an intention seeking lie. Now you can't separate the reality 89 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: that it was a dumb, silly thing to do and 90 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: nobody's gonna hate you or cut you off for it, 91 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: from the alternate reality you've created in your head that 92 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: this was a shameful lie and you've betrayed your friends 93 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: and the boyfriend by telling it. The alternate reality is 94 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: not a thing. It's not real. Try to get an 95 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: aerial view of this. Imagine your boyfriend claimed to be 96 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: left handed as a kid because he thought it'd be cooler, 97 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: and somehow managed to learn to write with his left 98 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: hand and fooled everyone. Now imagine him coming to you, 99 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: solemn guilty, almost in tears, and admitting that he's not 100 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: actually left handed. He's been right handed all along. You'd 101 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: laugh your butt off, right, I mean, if my husband 102 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: told me that, I definitely would, because it's funny and 103 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: nobody got hurt and it's so not a big deal. 104 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: I'd probably make fun of him for a while, not mean, 105 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 2: just teasing, and then I'd probably forget about it. Maybe 106 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: once in a while i'd remember and chuckle again. Just 107 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: come clean to your boyfriend. It's not that deep. Your 108 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: brain and shame are tricking you, and op he does reply. 109 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: But I agree with all those comments. 110 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: I think that was also really nicely worded. So that's 111 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: what I was saying too, where Like there was I 112 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 4: think there were a lot of people who were like, like, 113 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: you're making a big deal like brushing it off, and 114 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 4: it's so clear that to this person like basy have 115 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: made like and so I like the way that that 116 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: person worded it. That was like, hey, like, yeah, you've 117 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: been kind of inside for so long, like dealing with 118 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: this that you have lost perspective like this is fine. 119 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 3: It's like when you, you know, are worried. 120 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: About something and then you internalize it and then you're 121 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: thinking about all the worst possible scenarios and then when 122 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 2: you like journal or you tell someone, you're like, oh, 123 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: actually it's it's really not that bad. Yeah, it's just 124 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: getting perspective on it. 125 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 5: That is a constant. 126 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 2: I feel like lesson that that you never stop learning 127 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: is just being like, oh my gosh, I can't believe 128 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: that open communication yeah made everything better. 129 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: And then you learn that lesson promptly forget it and 130 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: then have to just relearn constantly. 131 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: Groundhog's Day is a little very I can't believe open 132 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: communications save the day again, Opie replied, thank you so much. 133 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: I told my mother and asked for help, and she 134 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: couldn't stop laughing enough to speak. I guess it's not 135 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: that bad, but my shame is that it's a disability 136 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: I faked, and in a way was making fun of 137 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: those who genuinely suffered with it and a common four, 138 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: says Ellwell, reminds me of how I said I lost 139 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: my virginity to a non existent man named Jack and 140 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: kept it the lie for an entire seven year relationship 141 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: with a dude I actually lost it to. 142 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 143 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: Tell him you have to tell him something and it's 144 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: really bad. Just keep alluding to how terrible it is, 145 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: so that he thinks you slept with his dad or 146 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: drowned a litter of puppies for fun. Then when you 147 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: finally really reveal it's just that you're not colorblind, he's relieved. 148 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: Ohpi says, I hate to admit that's what I was 149 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: thinking from the start, but I don't think I could 150 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: bear to even make him think I would do that. Update. 151 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: I spoke with my boyfriend last night while having pizza, 152 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: I simply said what I typed above, as many people suggested, 153 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: and after a lot of blank stares, silence and a 154 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: simple what, we started laughing. I was laughing nervously and 155 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: I was still unsure if he was going to get 156 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: up and leave my house, but wanted to laugh at 157 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: me first, dramatic, I know, but that's me. He calmed 158 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: me down because he's a saint and told me I'm 159 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: stupid and that was weird, and he still slightly shocked, 160 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: but ultimately he didn't care. We continued eating our pizza, 161 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: watch the next Marvel movie in our lineup, and I 162 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: had a completely relaxing night. I waited to update, still 163 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: unsure if he was staying with me after a night's 164 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: rest on it, but I'm happy to say it says 165 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: if nothing has changed, and I couldn't be happier. I 166 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: saw a few comments of Paul that I was sorry 167 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: for lying to my boyfriend, but nobody else. I will 168 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: admit my post did make it seem that way, and 169 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: maybe he was the catalyst to make me take the 170 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: steps towards coming clean. But I do deeply regret lying 171 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: to my friends as well. On that note, I told 172 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: my best friend as well over the phone because she 173 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: lives hours away at college right now, and she also 174 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: thought it was hilarious and shocking I managed to keep 175 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: it up this long. She also said she wasn't upset 176 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: with me, and it changed nothing between us, apart from 177 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: the relentless teasing I'm sure is coming my way. I 178 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: haven't told my boyfriend's family yet, as I want him 179 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: and I to decide together how to go about it, 180 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: because he obviously knows them better than me, although I 181 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: have already come to love them as my own family. 182 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: And that's the end of that story. Folks. 183 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: My boyfriend hides girls on social media and then says 184 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: I'm the toxic one. 185 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: Well, we better find them. Yeah, where are they? Where 186 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: have they gone? My boyfriend and I have been together for 187 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: almost eight months. I've been in a very toxic for 188 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: your relationship before him, and he hasn't been in one 189 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: before I broke up with my ex because he was 190 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: constantly following and looking at other girls. Because of all 191 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: the things I've been through with my ex, I carry 192 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: a lot of insecurity with me, which leads to a 193 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: lot of jealousy from my side. By the way, this 194 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: comes from user no Prune ninety nine sixty and if 195 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: you want to submit your own stories, go to ar 196 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: slash Okay's story time subreddit. I'm Riley, I'm Sophia, and. 197 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 5: We are here to give good advice in a goofy manner. 198 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 5: But we'd we don't know everything, believe it or not. 199 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 5: Uh So we only know what we would do. 200 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 4: So if you have other opinions or experiences, speak your 201 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: truth down in the comments. Speak your mind, speak your mind, 202 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: spego truth speak go hot uh OPI says, in the 203 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: beginning of my relationship with my current boyfriend, I wasn't 204 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 4: jealous at all. That's because he made me feel like 205 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: the most beautiful girl in the world. I trusted him 206 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: one hundred percent to not be looking at or talking 207 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 4: to other girls behind my back. However, one day we 208 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: decided to warn a girl about her being spread via 209 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 4: his TikTok account. It was late and I decided to 210 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: go to bed. A few hours later, the girl added 211 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 4: me on Snapchat and sent me screenshots of the conversation. 212 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: Turns out he had given her his snapchat but deleted 213 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 4: it for me so I couldn't see it. I was 214 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 4: hurt a lot and acted out on him. We had 215 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: a big argument about it. 216 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: A few months into our relationship, we decided to go 217 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: on a trip together. Out of boredom. I asked if 218 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: I could go on his phone. He said yes. I 219 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: decided to go through his photos and saw that he 220 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,479 Speaker 2: had saved a girl in a bikini. 221 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: I got really upset at him. He told me it's 222 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 4: because it was a girl he knew. I still didn't 223 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: like it, but I decided to calm down. A few 224 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: days later, he lost his phone on this trip, so 225 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: I told him he could use my iPad until we 226 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: got back. I noticed that a girl had viewed my 227 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: profile on TikTok, and my first instinct was to look 228 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 4: at his TikTok account. I saw that he had unfollowed me, 229 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: but left me as a follower. 230 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: I got really upset. 231 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: At him and was really mean because I thought it 232 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 4: was strange that he did that. I also noticed that 233 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: the same girl had followed him on there. I didn't 234 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: really think much of the girl at first. The next 235 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: day I walked in on him texting someone on my 236 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: iPad on Instagram, and when he noticed my present, he 237 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 4: swiped the chat away. 238 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 5: That day, he acted. 239 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: Really strange and wouldn't leave me alone with my iPad. 240 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: He even wanted to take it outside with him in 241 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 4: his pockets when he had to grab something. The first 242 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 4: moment he left me alone with the iPad. 243 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 5: I decided to look on to it. 244 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 4: I saw that a girl had messaged him on IG 245 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 4: and he had muted the chat. I decided not to 246 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: say it I saw anything and give him the chance 247 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 4: to tell me himself. So I asked him who he 248 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: was talking to earlier. At first, he told me it 249 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: was a girl he knew from high school. 250 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: I was upset. Then ten minutes later he grabbed the 251 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: iPad and showed me his DMS, saying, girl, you worry 252 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: too much. I wasn't talking to another girl. 253 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: If I hadn't seen the task before, I would have 254 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 4: believed him. But I had seen it and told him 255 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: we're done. I saw her messaging you you've deleted it. 256 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: Then I went outside and was anxious as heck. I 257 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: told his mom what had just happened, and she went 258 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 4: to talk to him. I went to her room and 259 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 4: cried my eyes out like a hysterical person. He came 260 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: to sit with me and talk, saying he was sorry. 261 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 4: I called him a heartless person and was really mean 262 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: to him again. Eventually, I decided to stay with him, 263 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 4: but on the condition that I could have his password 264 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: to all his social media accounts. The next day, I 265 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: woke up with a weird feeling in my stomach. I 266 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: decided to look through his saved tiktoks and saw him 267 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 4: saving other girls. I cried again and asked if we 268 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: could talk. He got really defensive and stressed because he 269 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 4: knows I broke up with my ex because of this. 270 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 4: I stayed calm, though I did cry about it to him. 271 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: He told me it was for his art, he makes 272 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 4: three D characters, and that he isn't that kind of guy. 273 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: Other things I've noticed include his Twitter account being filled 274 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 4: with Asian girls. I hadn't said anything about that though. 275 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: When we got home from the trip, I got another 276 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 4: weird stomach feeling and decided to find out who the 277 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: girl is that viewed my TikTok profile. 278 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: Turns out it was the same girl he was texting. 279 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 5: I decided to break up with him, but when I told. 280 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: Him why, he said he didn't know it was her. 281 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: I decided to trust him and we. 282 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 5: Didn't break up after all. 283 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: A few weeks later, he started commenting on my chest 284 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: a lot. He told me they got bigger, they got 285 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 4: small again. When is your next period? Because he knows 286 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 4: my chest is bigger before my period. Your chests are 287 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 4: so small haha. 288 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: And then I had a dream you had. 289 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: A really big chest. 290 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 4: I was really confused as to why he was paying 291 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: so much attention to them. We were engaging in spicy sleep. 292 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: He put a blanket over me and grabbed his phone. 293 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: I accused him of going on Twitter to look at 294 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: those girls that pop up on his FYP. I immediately 295 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 4: stopped and didn't let him touch me. After that, I 296 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: woke up with a weird stomach feeling again and decided 297 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 4: to look through his. 298 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 5: Social media history. 299 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: When I got to his Instagram watch history, saw about 300 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: forty reels of women volumptuous women from the same account, 301 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 4: with no videos from other accounts in between, means he. 302 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: Had watched them back to back. I sent him a 303 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: video of it because I was so done. I sent 304 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: it with the text, you guys are all the same. 305 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: I didn't handle this situation well. It was very toxic 306 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: to say the least. Well, I agree, and that only 307 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: because you should have broken up the first time. 308 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I don't think you were toxic for sending 309 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: that not like. I just think that we could have 310 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 4: avoided this by just like together when we broke with 311 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 4: the first time. Let it stick. 312 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 5: I let him believe I blocked him. 313 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 4: After sending the video, he asked me what he did wrong, 314 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 4: and then convinced me that his algorithm randomly shows him 315 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 4: these things and that he wasn't actively searching for it 316 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 4: at all, because that's. 317 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: How algorithms were. 318 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 5: I decided to forgive him. That was yesterday. 319 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: He gave me a FaceTime call yesterday evening and asked 320 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 4: me why I looked through his history. I told him 321 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: about the chest thing. He told me he felt that 322 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: I didn't trust him and that he felt like he 323 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 4: had to walk on eggshells with me because every time 324 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 4: I see something on his social media that involves a girl, 325 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: I act out and become mean to him. He also 326 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 4: says that his mom and brother don't see the wrong 327 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 4: in the history thing and said he couldn't do anything 328 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 4: about it. He feels like I don't understand him and 329 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: that I wrongfully compare him to my ex. He also 330 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: finds it draining to give me conscient reassurance, and doesn't 331 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 4: like the way I say mean things when I'm upset. 332 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 4: I've never called him bad words or anything, but I 333 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: guess I do say insulting things like you're heartless. He 334 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: told me that the past few months have drained him, 335 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: especially yesterday, so he asked for space and that it 336 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: could be up to a few months of space. I 337 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: didn't respond to an understanding wait to him to all 338 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: the things he told me on that FaceTime call. 339 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 340 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: The thing. 341 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: The way that I know that that he's a good 342 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: gas lighter is that he like makes it sounds He 343 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: makes it sound good. 344 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: You know. 345 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: He makes me being like, oh, well, maybe you know 346 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: there is another side I'm not seeing. But then we 347 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: get to the end and I'm like, oh no, he 348 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: just wants toaff other women. Yeah, oh, he wants a 349 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: couple times of space, not just break up. Yeah, why 350 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: do you want a couple months of space? What are 351 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: you gonna do in a couple months of space? 352 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: There's another relevant update, but let's discuss. 353 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, break up, break up? Why I don't have 354 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: any other advice for you? Break up, break up, and 355 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: please like again? Because I've seen how you've behaved throughout 356 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: this whole story. You need a minute before you get 357 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: into another relationship. 358 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 5: Because like, and it is interesting. 359 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: She even starts this story with, like, I have a 360 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 4: lot of insecurities. I get jealous very easily, and I 361 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: get mean, and I feel like a lot of the time, 362 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: sometimes people think that saying that is good enough, like 363 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: as long as they're like I know, like, yeah, I 364 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: get pretty jealous. 365 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 5: And it's like, well, you can't stop there. You have 366 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 5: to be like, Okay. 367 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: I recognize that jealousy is something that I struggle with. 368 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 5: How do I figure that out? 369 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 370 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: Because at this point, I'm like, how much of this 371 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: is your jealousy coming out in extremes or how much 372 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: of this is him, you know, actually pushing past boundaries 373 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: that you've set And it might be a little bit 374 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: of both. Yeah, because there's definitely like he's doing some 375 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: absolutely shady stuff. 376 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it is also yeah, like like if you 377 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: know that that. 378 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: Is something that you struggle with, yeah, really being aware 379 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: of and watching for that stuff. Yeah, Because I mean, 380 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: regardless of who you're dating next, whether they're a good 381 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: person or not, you're going to react the same way. 382 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, that's the thing is yep, and you actually 383 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: said it perfectly and I had nothing else to do, 384 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: that's the thing instead of yes and just yes yeah. 385 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: Oh. 386 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 4: He says I was very cold to him and only 387 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 4: focused on my own feelings. I made some toxic comments. 388 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: I also said I couldn't understand how he was okay 389 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: with not talking to me for so long, and I 390 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: couldn't even think of doing that to him. He just 391 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 4: responded that I don't get the reason he wants to 392 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: stop contact for now. 393 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 5: After that, he just said good night. 394 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: Do you guys think that he still wants to be 395 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 4: with me after all of this? And what can I 396 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 4: do to make this relationship work? 397 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: Nothing? 398 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 5: Or is our relationship ruined? 399 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: Yes? Your relationship is over. Yeah. The comment has something 400 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: which I will probably agree with, which says all he 401 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: does is piss you off. Why do you care if 402 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: it's over? Are you afraid you won't have anyone to 403 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 2: be mad at anymore? Oh? That was crazy. That was 404 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: a crazy way to end that. I actually I was like, 405 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, we'll probably agree with commenter. And 406 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 2: then they put some sauce on it right at the end. 407 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 4: Opie replies no, I care because I genuinely love him 408 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: and I don't want to be this way towards him. 409 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 4: I've summed up all the things we've fought over in 410 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: this paragraph. The other parts of our relationship are all 411 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: happy and follow like best friends. 412 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: No, you're not. You're literally not. That's not how best 413 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: friends behave Yeah, stop lying to yourself. 414 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 4: I wrote this text to get advice, criticism, and just 415 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: honest feedback to better myself for him. Another commenter says, 416 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: what the f can you possibly be getting out of 417 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: this relationship that you'd even care if it's ruined. You're 418 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 4: terrible for each other. He wants to break up with you, 419 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 4: but is afraid to tell you quit making toxic comments 420 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: with him and it with anyone else, and stop making. 421 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: Your issues other people's problems. And that's the end of 422 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: that story. Folks. My girlfriend wanted a procedure, but the 423 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: real reason shattered me. 424 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 5: This is so vague. I don't even have a quippi 425 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 5: for it. She's like, whatever, could you mean some backstory? Oh, 426 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 5: booth age. 427 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: We've been together about a year and a half and 428 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: we get along fabulously. I love her like crazy. We've 429 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 2: had a rough patch, but we made it through and 430 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: now we're great. We say I love you all the time, 431 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: regular dates, rarely fight, et CETERA great dynamic. By the way, 432 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: this comes from history. What now and if you want 433 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: to smit your own stories, go to the raslash okay, 434 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: storytime subbured it. I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, but we're here 435 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: to give good advice. Goofy, but we don't have all 436 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 2: the answers. We only know what we'd do, So let 437 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: us know what you would do in the comments, and 438 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: Op says we are both child free. It was one 439 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: of the first things we bonded over. She's been planning 440 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: to get her tubes tied when she was thirty since 441 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: before we met. She has an IUD now, so permanent 442 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: birth control is nothing new. I support her decision completely. 443 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: But then a couple days ago we were talking and 444 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 2: the topic of how she'll be thirty soon came up 445 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: and the surgery. Then she drops on me totally casually 446 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: that instead of getting her tubes tied, she's leaning towards 447 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: getting her uterus completely taken out. I'll admit I'm not 448 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: the most medically savvy, but from what I know and 449 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: looked up about it. It doesn't seem safe or logical, 450 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: especially at her age, so it was kind of a bombshell. 451 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: I said. I thought it had too many health risks 452 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: and could send her into menopause from what I know 453 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: about it. She just kept repeating that she knows what 454 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: she's talking about it and is fine, and not to 455 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: question her. From what I know, her periods aren't very 456 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: heavy or painful, and there's no history of camp, so 457 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: I have no idea what brought this on. It escalated 458 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: to a heated argument that led to her saying she 459 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: wished she hadn't said anything and that it's not my 460 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: body and storming out of the room. That was a 461 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: few days ago and things are still chilly. Neither of 462 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: us have said anything on the topic, so what the heck? 463 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: She won't say why, And from what I've researched on 464 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: the procedure, it a seems completely unnecessary, b could be 465 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: slash is harmful for a woman her age, and see 466 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: good luck finding a doctor who will do it. You 467 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: usually super into her health and weighing the risks and benefits. 468 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: So I don't get it. Am I missing something here? 469 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: Or am I just being an unsupportive jack butt, and 470 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: there are some comments. Common One says you don't have 471 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: to broach the subject or talk about it at all, 472 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: because they won't remove a perfectly healthy organ if she 473 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: has normal periods, no fibroids, no care, it's not coming out. 474 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: It's beyond too dangerous to perform this on a healthy 475 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: person for no reason, and it will not happen. It's 476 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: not a birth control option, it's not elective period. A 477 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 2: doctor will tell her this in due time, So this 478 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: is not your problem. Stop worrying about this. I just 479 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: need to correct you re metopause. That's only if they 480 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: remove the ovaries along with the uterus, which isn't necessarily 481 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: and not part of an average hysterectomy. Two, you've been 482 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: getting some frankly crap advice here, no offense, but this 483 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: sub seems to have been filled with people who immediately 484 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: jammed cotton into their ears the minute they saw something 485 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: about women's reproductive organs. And stop paying attention to reality. 486 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: You should absolutely be worried about your girlfriend. Heck, my 487 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: fiance has a cold and I'm worried about her health. 488 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: If her response to a cold was I should get 489 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: my sinuses removed I'd be super concerned. While it's probably 490 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 2: true she won't find a doctor worth her salt who 491 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: will provide one, if she's set on it, she'll be 492 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: able to get one one way or another, and that's 493 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: very concerning. As for what you should do here, step 494 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: back and give it a little time before you guys 495 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: talk about it again. Let cooler heads prevail, as it were, 496 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: ask lots of questions, and come in without or seemingly 497 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: without judgments. As directomy is not a my body, my 498 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: choice thing. That's a major surgery with very long term effects. 499 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: If her reasons are nothing but zero percent of babies 500 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: and no more periods, then she does not have good reasons. 501 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 2: Common three says, of course, it's not your body, but 502 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: you love her and you want what's best for her, 503 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: so you felt the need to tell her your concerns. 504 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: And it's unfortunate that that was in the form of 505 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: a heated argument. But the complete removal of an organ 506 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: is not a trifle matter. And there is an update. Wow, 507 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: this really blew up. I've read through all the replies 508 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: and went to addressed and want to address a few things, 509 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: especially for anyone who didn't read the original post. I'm 510 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: not being mistreated, not being manipulated. The hysterectomy idea was 511 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: brought up as an option to permanent sterilization. It's part 512 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 2: of an ongoing conversation. We are child free. She had 513 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: planned to get her tubes tied when she turned thirty, 514 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: since before she met me. It probably would not have 515 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: escalated to this if I had just said okay. It 516 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: was when I reacted strongly that she got defensive. Therapy, 517 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: particularly couple's therapy, was already suggested between us, and we're 518 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: probably going to go for it. She admitted she has 519 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: some baggage surrounding her previous bedroom relationships, and because I 520 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: wasn't listening and she figured that getting her ovaries out 521 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: was a potential solution to something. I didn't think it 522 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: was needed to go into detail like this, but she 523 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: said when we were talking that she was surprised at 524 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: how heated she got over the issue. She also realized 525 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: after the fact no doctor would take her ovaries out voluntarily. 526 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: For the people I missed it, we generally communicate pretty well. 527 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: I just missed the spicy sleep talk from her for 528 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: six months, again, something that can hoefully be addressed with therapy. 529 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: If every bump in the road or accidental miscommunication is 530 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: breakup worthy jeepers, good luck to you, guys. I got 531 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: a lot of advice on the last post from all 532 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: points of view and a couple of messages, so I 533 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: figured i'd do an update. First off, she didn't actually 534 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: want a hysterectomy. It was a cry for help or 535 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: red flag. Also, I'm an idiot, So the day after 536 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 2: I made the post, I wanted to clear the air because, 537 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: like I said, things were chilly and off. So I 538 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: sat down with her and I had a whole apology 539 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: planned out about doubting her judgment and clearly she knows 540 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: her body, and I was just worried because I love 541 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: her and I support her and so on and so forth. 542 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 2: But I only got part way in before she got 543 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: upset told me it doesn't matter because she knows she 544 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: can't get one and it's not happening. Then I got 545 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: really confused and said, if it's what she wants, then 546 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: I'll help her get one and find the right dog 547 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: her and we can do our research together. She yelled 548 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: that she doesn't want one and to drop it and 549 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: leave her alone. Then she burst into tears and stormed 550 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: out of the apartment. See, oh, b I, this is 551 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 2: why I really feel like you need to I mean 552 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: it seems like he, you know, tried to go one 553 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 2: way didn't work, try to go the other way didn't work. 554 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: I think we just need to go middle of the 555 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: road and say why do we want it? 556 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I will say it does sound like she. 557 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: Does not want to talk. No, yes, I agree, but 558 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 2: it seems like Opie's you know, I understand. 559 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: When their extremes occur. 560 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: Yes, it's like I'm fully on board. I don't need 561 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: any information. It's like I don't think either of those 562 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: ones are going to work. I think it's just, hey, 563 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: why why do we feel like this? Ah? So I'm 564 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: super confused and worried at this point. I didn't call 565 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: because when she gets this upset, it's better to leave 566 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: her be. But I sent her a text telling her 567 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: I love her and I want to fix whatever's going on. 568 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 2: She came back an hour later, still crying, and said 569 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: she needs to talk and tell me something. I was 570 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: completely brave for the worst that she cheated or was pregnant, 571 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: but I think what she actually said hurt more. She 572 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: wanted the hysterectomy as a last ditch resort to intentionally 573 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: unlive of her spicy drive. Remember how I mentioned we 574 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: had a rough patch about six months ago. Well, I 575 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: thought everything was better than ever since then. But what 576 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: I didn't notice was I've coincidentally taken on some bigger 577 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: projects at work since then, which is up my stress levels. 578 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: And I didn't notice we've been having less and less 579 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: spicy sleep. She pointed out that we only had spicy 580 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: sleep twice in the past month. And I don't initiate, girl, 581 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: We didn't have to jump to let's get a hysterectomy. 582 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: Let's just talk. Yeah, I mean, what did I say 583 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: earlier today? It's like the constant lesson being learned of. 584 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: You just got to communicate. 585 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 3: You just got to communicate. 586 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: She also told me her last three relationships ended with 587 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 2: passed away bedrooms where her partners refused to work on it, 588 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: so she was scared it's happening to her again. She 589 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: then told me that if it keeps happening to her, 590 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 2: that there must be something wrong with her and how 591 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: awful she feels. So she just wanted to not feel 592 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: anything spicy wise. 593 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: Ouch. 594 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. At the end of the day. This is just 595 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 2: you just had to you know, slowly, you know, weeded 596 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: out of her. 597 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 5: Like the information. 598 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's not the uterus the information. No, yeah, 599 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: it really is like that should have been those feelings 600 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 2: should have been talked about way earlier before you go 601 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: to medical. Yeah, a huge medical like change, that's that's yeah. 602 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: We don't need any procedure that's gonna literally affect your 603 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: life forever. Uh. Yeah, but I'm glad. I'm glad she 604 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: finally told you, and I hope that you can listen 605 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: and make those changes. 606 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: I know, I'm curious to see how this ends. 607 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: Honestly, the whole thing is heartbreaking, and I felt so guilty. 608 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: She had brought up the spicy sleep thing a few 609 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: times before, but I hadn't taken it seriously enough, and 610 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: I guess she just gave up. Anyways, I felt like garbage, 611 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: and I've spent every day since trying to make it 612 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 2: up to her. And yes, we've been having spicy sleep. 613 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: I've also committed to making sure I initiate and to 614 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: actually listen before things snowball. She's happier, she's incredible. I'm 615 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: much better for actually getting some two and I'm the 616 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: luckiest man on the planet. And all's well. That ends. Well, 617 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: there we go, that's all just communication saves the day. 618 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 2: Another story saved by communication. But folks, that's the end 619 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 2: of that story. 620 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam. 621 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: We'll get back to the stories. 622 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 623 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: My father's girlfriend wanted to be my friend, but I refuse. 624 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 6: Second time, doesn't have to be your friend. 625 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: My twenty six female father late fifties has been with 626 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: Trudy early forties for about six years, but she only 627 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 3: moved in with him a little under a year ago. 628 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 3: Before that, she lived in a different city. By the way, 629 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: this comes from Construction Witty nine seven eight. And if 630 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 631 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: r slash Okay story time. It's Sepreddit and I'm Angie 632 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 3: and I'm Keon and we're here to give good advice goofily. 633 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: But we don't have all the answers, so we're just 634 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: gonna guess what we would do in this situation. But 635 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 3: if you would do anything differently, let us know in 636 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 3: the chat or in the comment. So Opie says. Since 637 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: they started dating, Trudy has established herself as essentially a housewife. 638 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: It was her choice from what I gather for My 639 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 3: father was against it, and she seems happy with it, 640 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 3: but she's a little extreme about it. She doesn't work, 641 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: she has no hobbies, and refuses to go anywhere without 642 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: my father. He often leaves on work trips for days 643 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: at a time. When he's in town, she joins him 644 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: and whatever he's doing. When he's not, her daily routine 645 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: consists of going to the gym and returning home to 646 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: order takeout and watch TV. Because of that, Trudy has 647 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: no friends in this city. She never meets anyone. Her 648 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: whole family is a six hour drive away, and only 649 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: my father's friends come to her birthday parties. Recently, both 650 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: Trudy and my father started pushing for me and my 651 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: sister to hang out with Trudy or include her in 652 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: whatever plans we make, because she's been spending a lot 653 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: of time home alone and has been getting lonely. They've 654 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: mostly given up on asking my sister, but still try 655 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: to convince me. I never do both because I can't 656 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: and because I don't like Trudy. I'm well aware that 657 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: that's not her problem, and I'm always polite, but I 658 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: don't want to spend time with her when I don't 659 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: have to. I also have a baby and a job, 660 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 3: so whatever free time I have tends to revolve around 661 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: my son. Even when it doesn't. Trudy and I don't 662 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: have the same interests. Last Friday, Trudy was home alone 663 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: and invited me and my husband and our baby over 664 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: to watch a movie with her. We thanked her, but 665 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 3: said no because my husband wanted to catch up on 666 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 3: work and I didn't want to take our son out 667 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: on my own, both true. On Saturday, we ended up 668 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: inviting my best friend and her husband for a small 669 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 3: game night at our place. Said friend later posted an 670 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: Instagram story about it. My father returned on Saturday morning 671 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: and we saw my family at a small get together 672 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: that day. Trudy was quiet, which was a bit out 673 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: of character. Right before we left, she and my father 674 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: pulled me aside. We had an argument because Trudy had 675 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: seen what my friend had posted. She said that she 676 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: was upset that I hadn't thought of including her or 677 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: taking her up on her offer to hang out when 678 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: she was home alone. My father told me that I 679 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: had been inconsiderate and as she hasn't made any friends 680 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: around here yet, and I know how lonely she's been lately. 681 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 3: I said, it's not my fault she doesn't have friends, 682 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 3: and I don't have to include her in my plans 683 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: just because she refuses to meet new people. And Trudy 684 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: God offended, but my husband and I had to leave yesterday. 685 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: My father texted me saying that Trudy was still upset 686 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: about what I said, and he thinks that I owe 687 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: her an apology. He thinks that I'm bullying his girlfriend 688 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: by refusing to hang out with her. And it was 689 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: rude of me to imply that her lack of friends 690 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: is her own fault. That's not what I meant. And 691 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: I don't like being treated like Trudy's cure for loneliness. 692 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: But I do understand and how what I said could be. 693 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: Seen as rude? Am I a hole? 694 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: If you do have some relevant comments? One commentary says, 695 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 3: not the a hole. Why is Trudy looking at your 696 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: friend's Instagram story? It's not your job to entertain her 697 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: or invite her to anything. Trudy's a grown but woman 698 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: who needs to get a life instead of crying to 699 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: her boyfriend that his kids don't want to hang out 700 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 3: with her. Opie says she started following some of my 701 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: friends during my birthday a few months ago. She said, 702 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: A said friend has been my best friend since diaper's 703 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: and is a little more active on social media, so 704 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 3: Trudy checks hers pretty often. Another commentary says, not the 705 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: a whole explained to your dad that you are not 706 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: bullying her. They are bullying you. You've said nothing mean 707 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: to her or about her, and you have not done 708 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: anything mean to her. You did not attack her with 709 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 3: the statement you defended against their attack. You are a 710 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: working mother with limited time already, and she is not 711 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: offering to help you in any way. She's just demanding 712 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: a portion of your already limited free time. The fact 713 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: that she has no child, no job, and is bored 714 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: does not give her the right to add stress to 715 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: your already stressed life. Obi responds that things with her 716 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 3: have gotten so much worse since my son was born. Interesting. 717 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 3: I thought I always thought my father would be more 718 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: difficult to deal with around this time, but she does 719 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: not understand how limited my free time actually is. Another 720 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: commentary says, it's exceedingly hard for me to sympathize with 721 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: or feel any compassion for women in these situations, because 722 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: if it's against the husband's wishes, then it's ultimately entirely 723 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: a situation of the woman's designs. Any dislike for the situation, 724 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: any absence of a life beyond being a housewife, is 725 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: entirely by her own decision. Plus, from what it sounds like, 726 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: she basically doesn't have any real constraints because she's just 727 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: sitting on her butt, ordering takeout and watching TV. Like 728 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: join a club, take up a hobby, read books. If 729 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: you're just scrolling TikTok and watching TV, then your loneliness 730 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: is your own faults. Also, it's not necessarily bullying to 731 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: exclude freedom of assembly is a personal right, and you're 732 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: not required to spend time with her just because she's 733 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: a loser, not the a hole. Obi responds, My father 734 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: was indeed against it, but at the same time, he's 735 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: always liked having people who depend on him, even if 736 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: he doesn't admit it. I love the guy, but living 737 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 3: with him wasn't easy, and our relationship got a thousand 738 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: times better when I moved out. This is actually the 739 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 3: first fight we've had in a while. I think his 740 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: main problem with it is how intense it is. She 741 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: quite literally refuses to do anything without him. Sometimes that 742 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: comes at the expense of other people's money, comfort, or time. 743 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: She doesn't care. I do think my father enjoys having 744 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 3: her around, but her fixation on being a terminator housewife 745 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 3: bothers him too. And more on Trudy and Ope's father's relationship, 746 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: Opie says, I always thought that they were a weird couple. 747 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: Trudy is still nostalgic for Y two K and would 748 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 3: be a Disney adult if she could afford to. My 749 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: father thinks he's James Bond, but is closer to Fraser 750 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: minus the college degrees. He really wants us to be friends, 751 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: though I never told him I didn't like her, but 752 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 3: I did make it clear that the fact that we 753 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 3: have nothing in common makes it unlikely. Plus, she used 754 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 3: to work, and I think she still has some savings. 755 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: I also think there is some inheritance money involved. My 756 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: father does pay for most of their expenses, though back 757 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: when she lived in her hometown, she'd fly in to 758 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 3: visit my father at least twice a month and stay 759 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 3: for about a week. Moving in with him didn't change much, 760 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 3: except she no longer has the option of returning home 761 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: to stay with her friends and family when he's out 762 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 3: of town, and we do have an update. But yeah, 763 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of those comments are true. 764 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: I think a lot of the comments were pretty harsh. 765 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 6: But no, they were just brutally honest. 766 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: Do you think yeah, because I mean I almost want 767 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 3: to give her the benefit of the doubt a little bit. 768 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 3: I think she it is odd that she is just 769 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 3: like following the husband around and only wants to wants 770 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 3: to do everything that he's involved in because she's shadows. Yeah, 771 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 3: he's not getting his own life and she's not building 772 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 3: her own. So it's it is true what Opie said 773 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 3: about like, yeah, I mean, it's not my fault she 774 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: doesn't have any friends, you know, And it's true that 775 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 3: she can join hobbies and join clubs and stuff like that. 776 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 3: I will say though, that even then it can be 777 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 3: difficult to make friends, So you know, I don't I'm 778 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 3: not surprised that she maybe felt left out. But at 779 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: the same time, it's like, you can't be mad to 780 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: the point where it's like, oh my gosh, my life 781 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 3: is depending on this and you ruined it. 782 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, Like I get it from a point of 783 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 6: like maybe once in a blue moon hang out or 784 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 6: like get lunch or coffee or something like that. But 785 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 6: like if she's like, no, you need to be my BFF, Jilly, 786 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 6: I maybe a friend bracelet, Like right, let's hang out 787 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 6: twenty four to seven. Yeah, that's a little different. 788 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 789 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: And also her her reasoning for this situation, like for 790 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: being mad about the situation was just like, oh, I 791 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 3: asked you to hang out once, you said you couldn't 792 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 3: do it because your husband was doing something already and 793 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 3: you didn't want to like take care of your kid 794 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: without the husband. 795 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: So now the fact that you're hanging out. 796 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 3: With this other person was like, you know, it's like 797 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 3: that's that's if it was multiple times, where like she 798 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: was always inviting and always saying no, but then hanging 799 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: out with other people even though she said she had 800 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: no time, then that I would be upset about. But 801 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: this is like, girl, you can't be this mad about 802 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 3: this yet. 803 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. This is unless if we this is the 804 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 6: context we get, maybe it's happened more than once, right, 805 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 6: but it seems like like chill take a chill pill. 806 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, Trudy, exactly, take a chill pillm. But we do 807 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: have an update from twelve days later. It's been almost 808 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 3: two weeks since I posted here. I wouldn't say I've 809 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: sorted everything out, but I'm satisfied with what has happened. 810 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: A few days after my post, I reached out to 811 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: all my friends who know Trudy and told them to 812 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 3: either block her on social media or just remove her 813 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: as a follower. Interesting. I don't think she was using 814 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 3: them to stalk me or anything. She spends a lot 815 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 3: of time on her phone. It was actually very unlikely 816 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: that she wouldn't see the story that my friend posted 817 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: that day, but I figured it would be best to 818 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: prevent this from happening again. I also removed her from 819 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 3: my followers. My account has always been private anyway. I 820 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: decided that I wanted to have a one on one 821 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: conversation with my father so that we could talk things through, 822 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: so we agreed to have lunch together on Saturday. We 823 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 3: settled on a restaurant near my place and agreed that 824 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 3: it would be just the two of us. Ay of, 825 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 3: he called and told me that Trudy was insisting on 826 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 3: coming along to keep company. I told him no, I 827 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 3: wanted to talk to him on my own. We had 828 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: a small fight because he didn't want to leave Trudy alone, 829 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 3: so I told him that it was best that we 830 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: rescheduled it. My husband and I had lunch together and 831 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: took our baby to the park instead. That night, I 832 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 3: told my husband what had happened, and he said, I 833 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 3: love that you're still trying to be nice to them, 834 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: but I don't think it's working. Between that your comments 835 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: and the fact that I'm exhausted, I decided to give up. 836 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 3: I can't force my father and Trudy to listen, but 837 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 3: I can at least put my foot down. I called 838 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 3: my father the next day, while Trudy was at the gym. 839 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 3: I told him, in no uncertain terms that I do 840 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 3: not like Trudy and will never accept an offer to 841 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 3: spend time with her when he's not around, even more 842 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 3: so now that I have a child. As expected, my 843 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 3: father started trying to guilt me right away. First, he 844 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 3: went on a spiel about Trudy's life story and how 845 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 3: caring and devout she is to everyone around her. He 846 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 3: told me about how much she loves me and wishes 847 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 3: that we could spend more time with her. This wasn't 848 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 3: the first time that I heard all of that, but 849 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 3: it was the first time that I told him I 850 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: didn't care. I'm glad she loves me, but I have 851 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 3: no obligation to love her in return. I could spend 852 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 3: hours listing all the reasons that I don't like her, 853 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 3: but I don't think she has to care about that. 854 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 3: We're not friends and we're not family. That argument actually 855 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 3: went on for a while, but eventually the subject shifted 856 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 3: to Trudy's lack of friends. I reminded him that they 857 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: live in one of the most popular streets in our city, 858 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 3: and there are dozens of things that she could do 859 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: to meet new people. My father said that she knew that, 860 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 3: but Trudy didn't want to try any of them. 861 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 6: Ohoh wow, Wow, she doesn't want to try. 862 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 3: She doesn't want to try, So now it's on uop. 863 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 3: Her life is in your hands. I told him that 864 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 3: in that case, there was nothing else I could do. 865 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 3: Trudy can either start putting herself out there or continue 866 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 3: her lonely routine. Either way, I won't be a part 867 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 3: of it. My father said he wouldn't try to push 868 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 3: me to hang out with Trudy anymore, but he can't 869 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 3: guarantee that she'll do the same. I can live with that, 870 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 3: and I reassured him that I'll never stop being polite 871 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 3: to Trudy, but I I won't like but I won't 872 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 3: start liking her just because they want me to. He 873 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 3: said that he could live with that. My husband and 874 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 3: I have come up with multiple theories about why Treaty 875 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: is so fixated on having her life revolve around my father's. 876 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: We call her the terminator housewife for a reason, but 877 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,919 Speaker 3: I've always thought it was very unhealthy for the both 878 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 3: of them. I hope she does decided to start meeting 879 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 3: new people and doing stuff on her own, but I 880 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: won't be treated as her babysitter anymore. My son is 881 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 3: my number one priority. Thank you for your reassurance. I 882 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 3: don't think this is over, but I don't plan on 883 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 3: updating again, as I'm very busy and very tired. Cheers 884 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 3: and she said that that's the last update. But there 885 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 3: is a little bit more to the story, so or 886 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: at least there are some comments. Okay with that op 887 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 3: response to okay, so what do we think about this? Though? 888 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 6: This is the truth. They got to deal with it. 889 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 6: If if they don't like it, tough luck. Yeah, you're 890 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 6: you don't owe Trudy anything. Again, you were like, I'll 891 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,959 Speaker 6: be polite, but yeah, I'm not golda call her mom. 892 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna be like buddy, buddy, and that should 893 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 6: be respected unless unless, say, she earns it. I think 894 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 6: respect is earned. Friendship is earned. It's not like just 895 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 6: like you can you know, get it immediately. 896 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: Just by being like the title of your dad's girlfriends. 897 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 5: Yeah exactly. 898 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 6: Okay, i'm your dad's girlfriend now and now i'm your mom. 899 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 6: Yeah no, no, no, no, no that I'm also an adult, 900 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 6: so yeah, I can have my own choices. 901 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: Thanks exactly. So thanks, Yeah, no, I I agree. I 902 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 3: think I'm glad that something happened with that conversation. Yeah, 903 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 3: and that it's not just uh yeah, it's it didn't 904 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,959 Speaker 3: end with just them hanging up. 905 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 6: Or something like that or it didn't end it end 906 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 6: in like complete no contact. It was just like this 907 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 6: is it. And the dad was honestly like, all right, fine, 908 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 6: and Trudy's not whispering my ear. 909 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah it's all right. 910 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 5: I will respect that. 911 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 6: I'm not saying she will, but and you know what 912 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 6: it's like, well, we'll we'll work from here. 913 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 2: It's good. 914 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: We're using some sort of compromise here. That's great, but 915 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 3: there is a little bit more here, so we have 916 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: some relevant comments. One person says, I'm glad that you 917 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: are satisfied with the outcome and wish you all the best, 918 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 3: and that it stays that way. 919 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 2: However, I would not be. 920 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 3: Surprised if the ternaminator housewife starts to crank up her 921 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: crazy she saying people react very differently to rejection than 922 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 3: crazy ones, and I would not count lowly truty to 923 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 3: do and I would not count lowly lonely Trudy. Uh 924 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 3: to the sane ones. Opie says, Yeah, this isn't over 925 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 3: in the slightest, but I think my husband and I 926 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 3: are prepared, and I'm glad that my father knows that 927 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: I don't like her. Now, I don't support running around 928 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 3: telling people you don't like them like a preschooler, but 929 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 3: God didn't feel good to get that off my chest. 930 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: Another commentary says, not the a hole. How about Trudy 931 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 3: gets a job. She can make friends there or at 932 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 3: least keep herself busy, so she'll leave you the heck alone. 933 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 3: Opie says she has refused to get a job for years. 934 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 3: She has three degrees in a decent work history, but 935 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 3: the most interest she's shown in working since she started 936 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 3: dating my father was when she wanted to be his 937 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 3: personal assistant a few years ago. Another commentary says, strange, 938 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 3: how did they meet if she doesn't socialize? Not the 939 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 3: a hole? Opie says, I genuinely don't know. She was 940 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 3: an affair partner before she was a girlfriend. Oh oh, 941 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 3: so they're both pretty secretive about the first months of 942 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 3: their relationship. Eh eooo. 943 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 6: Maybe that's why we also don't like Trudy. That's yeah, 944 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 6: which is very reasonable. 945 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 3: That's very fair. That's super fair. Also, maybe that's why 946 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 3: Trudy insists on like being around him all the times. 947 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 3: Maybe she's worried that he'll just go off and cheat 948 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: on her. 949 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 6: Fair or Yeah, I don't know that. Oh man, that's 950 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 6: a little context I wish we got right. 951 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's big information. But I do 952 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 3: know is that she has friends in her hometown, which reminder, 953 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 3: is six hours away. Another commentary says that explains why 954 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 3: she sticks to your dad, Like lou she so he 955 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 3: was cheating on someone else with her, You could just 956 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 3: tell her you have a difficult time befriending people who 957 00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 3: don't practice fidelity as a core value. Hope, he said. 958 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 3: I don't think it's that simple. I think she has 959 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 3: her vision of a future in which she depends entirely 960 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 3: on her partner and never has to worry about anything 961 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 3: as long as her life revolves around him. I think 962 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 3: she wanted someone to be codependent with. And more on 963 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 3: why OPI doesn't like Trudy by draining, I mean having 964 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 3: a conversation with her is exhausting. It's like listening to 965 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 3: a song you hate but smiling through it because your 966 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 3: friends like it. Trudy is the type of person who, 967 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 3: when she wants something, will try to mold something else 968 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,479 Speaker 3: into it instead of just looking for it. She often 969 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 3: expects whatever situation she's in to revolve around her. She 970 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 3: doesn't care about anyone else's boundaries, schedules, or needs if 971 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 3: they're stopping her from doing something that she wants. On 972 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 3: a deeper level, Trudy is prejudiced against pretty much anyone 973 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 3: who's not like her. Oh that's another big reason. And 974 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 3: not like Truty too. 975 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 6: I wish we had this context at the beginning. 976 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of just assumed like she, Opie said, 977 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 3: that she didn't like Trudy, and I was kind of 978 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 3: just like, we never really got a reason at the beginning, 979 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 3: and I was just assuming like, oh, it's just like 980 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 3: I thought. 981 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 6: He was, just like, I just don't like her because 982 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 6: he's trying to feel that that uh, that space is 983 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 6: moll Yeah, but this makes a lot more sense a 984 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 6: lot of. 985 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 3: Other reasons here. I've stated this elsewhere, but Trudy's extremely 986 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 3: judgmental of other women. She's also very conservative, which I'm not, 987 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 3: so she tends to judge me specifically. She doesn't do 988 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 3: that openly, but it's obvious. Additionally, she's very talkative, again 989 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 3: not inherently bad, and okay she Additionally, Additionally, she's very talkative, 990 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 3: which again is not inherently bad, but she's also annoying. 991 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 3: She acts like a teenager, and the topics that she 992 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 3: likes talking about reflect that. And there are many other 993 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 3: reasons why I don't like her. I don't expect her 994 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 3: to change, and I don't think my opinion on her 995 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 3: needs to be her problem. 996 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 2: But if I can. 997 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 3: Avoid spending time with her, I will. And that's the 998 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 3: end of that story. 999 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,240 Speaker 1: John here og host, We're gonna get back to these stories, 1000 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: but a quick three minute break from ass for more sponsors, 1001 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: I refuse to my. 1002 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 2: Sister, a coworker of my business. Now I'm the villain. 1003 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 2: I twenty eight female, run my own business as a seamstress, 1004 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 2: selling clothes I've made as well as doing alterations. I've 1005 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: been open for two years and I do steady business. 1006 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 2: My primary income for my business is the alterations I do. 1007 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Tossaway Account eighteen hundred 1008 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 2: and if you want to smit your own stories, go 1009 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. I'm Sophia 1010 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 2: and I'm Anjie, and we try to give our best advice. 1011 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 2: But we haven't experienced most of these situations ourselves. So 1012 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 2: if you have, let us know what you would do 1013 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 2: in the comments today. I have a sister, twenty nine 1014 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 2: female who will call Lana. Lana is currently a recovering 1015 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 2: heavy drinker and I'm trying my best to support her. 1016 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 2: Due to Douis, she has been struggling to find a 1017 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 2: job and her mental health isn't helping her keep any 1018 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 2: job she finds. I feel really bad for her, and 1019 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: while we were visiting my parents on Monday, I made 1020 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 2: the offer that she could work for me. When I 1021 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 2: made the offer, I said that she could work inventory 1022 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 2: and register like a normal employee. She seemed pretty on board, 1023 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 2: but said she would have to think about it since 1024 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 2: she didn't want to leech off. Our parents were also 1025 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 2: really on board and encouraging, and they thought this would 1026 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 2: be a great opportunity for both of us. Wednesday, my 1027 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 2: mom called me and asked if the building would now 1028 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 2: be in both Loanna and my names. I asked her 1029 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 2: what she meant, and she said, since Lana is a 1030 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 2: co owner, her name should be on the lease. Huh. 1031 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: I told her it wouldn't because she wouldn't be co owner. 1032 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: I made it clear to my mother that Lana would 1033 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 2: be like any other employee. The reason I wanted her 1034 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 2: to work with me is so if she relapsed, she 1035 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 2: wouldn't risk losing her job again, since I know what 1036 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 2: she's going through. Mom beat around the bush trying to 1037 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 2: convince me to make Lana co owner, and I repeatedly 1038 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 2: told her no, not only for Lana's sake, but also 1039 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: for the sake of my business. I don't think Lana 1040 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 2: would be a bad co owner, but at this time 1041 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 2: she's still fairly unstable, and I don't want her to 1042 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 2: get stressed and fully break her sobriety. I made this 1043 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 2: clear to my mother in our phone call before she 1044 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: eventually gave up. I thought that was the end of it. 1045 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 2: A few hours later, Lana called to ask if I 1046 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 2: hired her, what she would be doing. I told her 1047 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 2: the same thing I said at dinner, that she would 1048 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 2: mostly be doing inventory, register, etc. She asked if she 1049 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 2: would help with any of the clothes. I told her 1050 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 2: when she learned to sew, I would consider it. She 1051 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 2: accepted and seemed excited with the arrangement. Since both of 1052 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 2: us have always loved fashion, we agreed I would host 1053 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 2: an interview with her at the end of the next 1054 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 2: week on my day off. My dad called me yesterday 1055 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 2: scolding me about the position I was putting Lana in 1056 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 2: and was telling me a meaner version of what my 1057 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 2: mother was saying. He continuously tried to hound me to 1058 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 2: give Lanna a higher position. I was getting really frustrated, 1059 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 2: and I told him that if he and Mom wouldn't 1060 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 2: stop pushing, I just wouldn't hire Lana at all. My 1061 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 2: dad called me a terrible sister before hanging up. I 1062 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 2: called Lana and told what happened and my words about 1063 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 2: not hiring her. She got upset with me, and I 1064 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,919 Speaker 2: apologized and told her I still wanted her to work 1065 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 2: with me. I just didn't want the drama with mom 1066 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 2: and dad. She understood, but is still upset with me 1067 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 2: that I would even say that. Even in the heat 1068 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 2: of the moment. Am I the ale p said, I 1069 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 2: was getting really frustrated, and I told him that if 1070 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,439 Speaker 2: he and Mom wouldn't stop pushing, I just wouldn't hire 1071 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 2: Lana at all. Some of Opie's comments, one commoner says, 1072 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 2: not the a hole, but you probably didn't need to 1073 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 2: relay the entire conversation with your parents to your sister. 1074 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 2: You were both happy with the arrangements, so your parents 1075 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 2: can butt out. Stick to your original plan, and stop 1076 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 2: trying to justify yourself to your entitled parents. Op says, Yeah, 1077 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 2: Lana and I have always been really close, so I 1078 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,399 Speaker 2: automatically tell her everything. But it's a bit late now. 1079 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 2: But you and the other comment are right that I 1080 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 2: need to start standing up for myself against my parents. 1081 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 2: More commoner says, your parents have put you in an 1082 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,439 Speaker 2: impossible position. I don't suppose they were offering to buy 1083 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 2: out half of the business to give to your sister. Sure, oh, 1084 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 2: P says no. But they did help me find the 1085 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 2: building my business is in, as well as help me 1086 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 2: move some of my stuff into the building and get 1087 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 2: it set up. That's just like if everyone that helps 1088 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 2: someone move into their place automatically got a share of 1089 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 2: the business, there would be a lot of split businesses. 1090 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 3: It'd be a whole lot, especially with parents, because I 1091 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 3: feel like if you've got a small business and your 1092 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 3: parents have free time, my parents help me. 1093 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 2: Moved into this place, do they get a live here now? 1094 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 2: They haven't paid off anything related to my business, unless 1095 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 2: you count the sewing machine they got for me when 1096 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: I was thirteen that started my love of clothes making. 1097 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: But I think that earlier help is why they think 1098 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 2: they have such a say in all this. Commoner says, 1099 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 2: look at it this way, not as if your sister 1100 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 2: was a stranger applying for a job. Granted, a lot 1101 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 2: of this wouldn't be on an application, But would you 1102 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 2: hire someone with multiple DUIs, mental health issues and a 1103 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 2: heavy drinker. I'm assuming the answer would be no, no, 1104 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 2: and no. Not the a hole Opie says, Yeah, I wouldn't, 1105 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 2: but I can't bring myself not to help her, even 1106 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 2: if she would be a terrible higher on paper if 1107 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 2: she wasn't family. And even then, it's something she likes 1108 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 2: to do, and I'll be there to support her rather 1109 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 2: than metaphorically tossing her to the wolves if she worked 1110 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 2: with other people. I don't know. I just want to 1111 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 2: help her out. But thank you for commenting, and Commoner 1112 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 2: says you seem to have turned out very well for 1113 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:29,720 Speaker 2: having two completely delusional parents. Kudos. Opie says, lol, thanks, 1114 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 2: but all this is actually coming really out of the 1115 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 2: blue for them. My dad has always been really level headed, 1116 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 2: and my mom was the one who taught me family 1117 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 2: should always be put first, which is why their demands 1118 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 2: are so weird, especially since at dinner I told them 1119 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 2: exactly what Lona would be doing and they seemed fine 1120 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 2: with it. To another commentary, sometimes I wonder if my 1121 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 2: parents still think we're teenagers arguing over who gets to 1122 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: drive the family car. As I said in a previous comment, 1123 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 2: their behavior is really out of the blue, since they've 1124 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 2: always been really sweet and supportive when it came to 1125 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 2: my business. I want to believe they might just be 1126 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 2: a misunderstanding something, or maybe they're just stress trying to 1127 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 2: help Lana as best they can and taking that stress 1128 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 2: out in the wrong places. I'm just hoping the gifts 1129 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 2: resolve before I interview Lana next week. Top Commoner says, 1130 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 2: not the able. Ask your dad if he would give 1131 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 2: away half his business to a wasted sibling who has 1132 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 2: no experience, because that's what your mother is demanding. Opie says, yeah, 1133 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 2: especially since Lonna is currently living with them while she recovers. 1134 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 2: They know exactly how she's doing and that she isn't 1135 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,439 Speaker 2: fit to run a business. I have no doubt she'll 1136 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 2: be a great employee, since she's always been the type 1137 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 2: to put her best foot forward in all she does, 1138 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 2: but with where she is at the moment, I think 1139 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 2: the stress would make her relapse. Commoner says, I suspect 1140 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 2: they know she's going to crash and burn at this job, 1141 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 2: and their only mental way out of the doomsday scenario 1142 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 2: is to believe that this is a permanent gig that 1143 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 2: she can't be fired from. That doesn't excuse what they've done. However, 1144 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 2: I feel like the commenters are really hammering in on 1145 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 2: the like Lana's gonna drink on the job and she's 1146 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 2: gonna be terrible and that's really not at all the 1147 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 2: problem here. 1148 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the problem is literally the parents. 1149 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1150 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 3: I feel like Op has made a great point about 1151 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,240 Speaker 3: how like, yeah, co owning is actually a big job. 1152 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 3: That's not that's not just like oh cool, I get 1153 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,720 Speaker 3: a lot of money. It's like, no, you. 1154 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 2: Have a lot of responsibility. 1155 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, like the reason that you know, it's not just 1156 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,280 Speaker 3: like maybe some of these comments are saying of like, uh, 1157 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 3: you know, Lana just can't keep these other jobs because 1158 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 3: she's like unstable or whatever. It's like, well, I mean 1159 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 3: if she's not in a super a stable place and 1160 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 3: it's hard to keep jobs, that why that way, it 1161 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that she like can handle the responsibility right 1162 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 3: now and that's fine, like maybe some days she can, 1163 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 3: but yeah, no. 1164 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 2: I think I think there needs to be sort of 1165 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 2: balanced in the story. Like one, the parents need to 1166 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 2: realize she's not ready for that. 1167 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 3: Parents need to be sympathetically yeah, and then the commercers 1168 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 3: need to. 1169 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 2: Realize that she's not like she's in recovery yeah, and 1170 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 2: she's trying to do better and she you know, right, 1171 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 2: and OPS faith in her right also wrestling Mama said earlier. 1172 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 3: Something about like, uh, oh shoot, I moved furniture into 1173 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 3: Canes into Raisin Kaines. 1174 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 2: I own a restaurant. 1175 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, have you been checking up on that? 1176 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1177 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,720 Speaker 3: Have you been getting your your checks? 1178 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 2: And yeah, they've been sending you checks because you probably 1179 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 2: have a lot of you know, that's a big business. 1180 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 2: I think I'm going to have a family talk with 1181 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 2: them after the weekend is over, and hopefully I'll find 1182 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 2: out where this is all coming from and how to 1183 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 2: deal with it. OHP clarifies, thank you, But like I 1184 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 2: said in other comments, I believe my parents' behavior is 1185 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 2: primarily out of stress about Lana than genuine hostility or 1186 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 2: parent or poor parenting. I should have been clear in 1187 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,760 Speaker 2: my post that Lana does not have a felony for DUI. 1188 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 2: She has two misdemeanors. However, due to time frame, lack 1189 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 2: of harm to herself and others, and the actual BAC level, 1190 00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 2: she's not a felon in our state, and I wouldn't. 1191 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 2: I'm successful, but I'm definitely comfortable, but I still have 1192 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 2: to watch my budget. Other employees Lana's access to the register. 1193 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,439 Speaker 2: I actually don't have any other employees which is where 1194 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 2: I think my parents might be assuming she'll be co 1195 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 2: owner since I run my store almost entirely myself. I 1196 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 2: say almost because on rare occasions my friends might come 1197 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 2: in to help move stuff around or do deliveries. As 1198 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 2: for the register, I have my PayPal hooked up to 1199 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 2: the card reader, and even if she was paid with cash, 1200 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 2: I would still know how much is made in a day, 1201 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 2: and if numbers didn't add up in the very unlikely event, 1202 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,760 Speaker 2: Lana would try to steal from me. As for becoming 1203 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 2: an enabler, I've been doing my own research on how 1204 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 2: to help recovering family without enabling them, and I have 1205 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 2: made it clear Tolana repeatedly, especially with the interview thing, 1206 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 2: that she will be treated like a normal worker when 1207 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: we're on the clock. One more thought from op Opie 1208 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 2: says thank you, and I'm really proud of her too. 1209 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 2: Last week actually marked her first three months without a relapse. 1210 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 2: That's that's really exciting. And there is an update to 1211 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 2: any other thoughts before we jump in. I feel the 1212 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 2: same way. 1213 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope that this update brings conversation with the parents. 1214 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 3: Yes and apologies, And it may be understanding between op 1215 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 3: and Lana without the parents' involvement, and maybe even Lona 1216 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 3: could go to the parents and say, hey, I don't 1217 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 3: want to be a co owner. Yeah, right, dealing with 1218 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff right now, and that is a 1219 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 3: lot of responsibility. 1220 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 2: For me exactly. Update. So, before I get into the update, 1221 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 2: I would like to clear some questions that were raised 1222 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 2: in the comments. I tried my best to answer them all, 1223 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 2: but I got a lot. First, Lana is not a 1224 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 2: felon in our states, heard uys that was already read. Second, 1225 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 2: my parents' behavior was very out of the blue. They're 1226 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 2: usually very supportive and rational, but I think that the 1227 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 2: stress of Lana is making them act irrationally. As one 1228 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,360 Speaker 2: common or put it, they see you're working for me 1229 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 2: as a magic bullet to fix everything, and when I 1230 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 2: try to set the boundary of her being an employee 1231 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 2: rather than a co owner, they thought I was not 1232 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 2: going to give her a good job at all. Third, 1233 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 2: my business is very small. I run it all by myself, 1234 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 2: and like I said in my first post, most of 1235 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 2: my money comes from alterations rather than my own designs. Fourth, 1236 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 2: what I said about Lana not getting the job was 1237 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 2: heat of the moment, frustration when talking to my dad. 1238 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 2: He was yelling at me over the phone and being 1239 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 2: incredibly pushy, and it felt like I was talking to 1240 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 2: a brick wall. I still have full intentions to hire Lana, 1241 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,319 Speaker 2: and the interview for this coming Friday is still on. 1242 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 2: I just set it to try and get my dad 1243 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,760 Speaker 2: off my back, and I apologize to Lana about even 1244 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 2: saying it to begin with, since it wasn't fair to her. 1245 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 2: Fifth some people were implying Laanna's drinking had to do 1246 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 2: with our parents, but it does not. Up until this point, 1247 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 2: we've never had any major rifts with our family, and 1248 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 2: we've always been incredibly tight knit. The reason for her 1249 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 2: drinking was because of something outside of us. I won't 1250 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 2: say what, since it is not my place, but our 1251 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 2: parents have nothing to do with their regular use other 1252 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 2: than give both of us the regular use gene. Anyways, 1253 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 2: here's the update. Uh. Lana called me after dinner late 1254 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 2: last night and we talked. She spoke with her parents 1255 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 2: and told me that my suspicions of a lot of 1256 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 2: this being a stress film misunderstanding were correct, and she 1257 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 2: invited me over this morning for breakfast with them all. 1258 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 2: I got back literal minutes ago. As I'm riding this. 1259 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 2: It was pretty awkward at first. Our parents were still 1260 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 2: on this high horse about Lana getting a good position. However, 1261 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 2: we were able to talk it out. Lana explained how 1262 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 2: she doesn't feel ready for such a position while she's 1263 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 2: still recovering, and how it would make her feel like 1264 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 2: she's leeching off me. She also pointed out that their 1265 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 2: pushiness was impacting her and my relationship and stressing her 1266 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 2: out more since she felt like she had to pick 1267 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 2: a side. She appreciated their concern, however, as she pointed 1268 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 2: out that concern was coming out a detriment to all 1269 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 2: of us. I told them how I felt like they 1270 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: didn't respect my business and how hurtful their words and 1271 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 2: actions were, especially my dad yelling at me. As Ray's 1272 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 2: voices have always been something I'm sensitive about. I explained 1273 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 2: my perspective of how I didn't want to stress out 1274 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 2: Lana with a position she really isn't ready for, nor 1275 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 2: does she have the experience for, and it felt like 1276 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 2: I was getting punished for trying to help her out. 1277 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 2: I brought up what another commenter said about how it 1278 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 2: was like expecting me to put her on the lease 1279 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 2: of my apartment she doesn't even live in. That's what 1280 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 2: I said. 1281 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 3: This is great, this is exactly what we said to do. 1282 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 3: We got We've got communication going. Yeah, bhazza bhazzah. 1283 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 2: Look at you guys. Go And I'm glad that Lana's 1284 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,439 Speaker 2: involved in this conversation to me too. My parents really 1285 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 2: took some time to think over what Lana and I 1286 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 2: were saying. Well, they made breakfast. When we sat down 1287 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 2: to eat, they apologized to us and explained that they 1288 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 2: were terrified of Lana having another relapse. Apparently, before we 1289 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 2: were born, my mom's cousins suffered from regular use and 1290 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: mental health, which eventually led to her downfall, and they 1291 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 2: were terrified the same might happen to Lana. This was 1292 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 2: why they were pushing for a more permanent position. It 1293 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 2: was a hard talk, but those were the important bits. 1294 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 2: It ended with some tears from my mom and so 1295 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,439 Speaker 2: so many apologies. We've all agreed it would be good 1296 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 2: to look into family therapy. Lana is already seeing a 1297 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 2: regular youth psychologist and plans to consult them about good 1298 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 2: family support groups and therapists at her next session. My 1299 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,919 Speaker 2: parents keep occasionally texting me asking if I need help 1300 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 2: with anything and if I'm okay, which is their way 1301 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 2: of apologizing even more. But there is a little bit 1302 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 2: left to this story. Any final thoughts. 1303 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 3: I think this is great. 1304 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, good job ten out of ten. You you really 1305 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 2: killed it. 1306 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, We've got family. It makes it like I feel 1307 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 3: like that's happened to me before in my family, where 1308 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't understand you parents, and then 1309 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 3: they're like, actually, this really sad thing happened and I'm terrified, 1310 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 3: and I'm like, ahh okay, I get it now, you know. 1311 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 3: So it's like that. That's like that makes a lot 1312 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 3: of sense, and it's good communication. 1313 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 2: Agreed, good, good job ten at ten h This interview 1314 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 2: between Lana and I is still on, and I've already 1315 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 2: set some boundaries with her about what it means working 1316 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 2: under me to ensure she has structure without enabling her. 1317 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 2: When we get the therapist, I'll also be speaking with 1318 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 2: them for more tips. I'm a bit surprised things resolved 1319 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 2: this fast, but not really. My family and lingering tension 1320 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 2: is like oil and water. None of us can ever 1321 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 2: go to bed upset. I think things are going to 1322 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 2: be weird for a while, but in the end, I 1323 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 2: think it'll be all right. I'm excited to work with Lana, 1324 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 2: and I'm nervous but eager to start family therapy since 1325 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 2: I think it will be good for all of us. 1326 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 2: Thank you all for your kind comments and support. Other 1327 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 2: than responding to comments, this will probably be the last 1328 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 2: post I make, since I just made this account to 1329 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 2: get advice. Thank you, and when commoner asks or says, 1330 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 2: this is a great update, thanks for posting it. Best 1331 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 2: wishes to Lana if you can pass this on from 1332 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 2: a stranger on the internet, and great respect to you, 1333 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 2: op he says, I will, but I think my family 1334 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 2: would freak out if they knew I posted about our 1335 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 2: squabbles on the Internetel. 1336 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 3: I'll tell her you're just a friend, and that's the 1337 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 3: end of that story. 1338 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 2: Folks,