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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's Giants, the Giants Bubble, give me some jump. Part

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Speaker 1: of the Giants podcast network. Let's roll. It's time for

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Speaker 1: another Giants Little podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the

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Speaker 1: official Bank of the Giants. I am John Schmelk. Today

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Speaker 1: it's the targets, It's the wide receivers. The Giants have

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Speaker 1: a lot of players in that room, with a lot

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Speaker 1: of varying skill sets, some young players, some rookies and

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Speaker 1: potential burgeoning superstar and elige neighbors. It's a fun group.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to talking to them today, the Giants wide

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Speaker 1: receiver group. And now we're joined by Giants Wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Jalen hi Jaalen. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Man doing good? Man doing good? Blessed to be here.

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Speaker 1: So it's been a lot of fun watching you in

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Speaker 1: the spring. Has it been as much fun working in

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Speaker 1: the spring has it been.

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Speaker 4: Watching It's been fun, you know, getting back on the

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Speaker 4: field you know again, you know, being with new guys,

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Speaker 4: you know, with Russ and uh, you know other guys

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Speaker 4: that we you know, brought in from preegency or the

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Speaker 4: draft and you know, just being there with them and uh,

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Speaker 4: to see what type of team we can be, you know,

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Speaker 4: this year and you know, developing that relationship.

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Speaker 1: It seems like you've really the good relationship with Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: What is it about the way he's approached you this

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Speaker 1: first press conference he mentioned you he's single jet as

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Speaker 1: somebody who's looking forward to working to What has it

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Speaker 1: been like doing that relationship with him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been good. Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, Russell, he's a He's a true, true pro

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Speaker 4: and how he goes about his business, how he goes

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Speaker 4: about his day. And for me, just you know, being

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Speaker 4: around that, you know, trying to see you know, his consistency.

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Speaker 3: Uh see how he works.

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Speaker 4: Every day and uh, just a train Uh you know,

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Speaker 4: change myself and change how I think and you know

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Speaker 4: my mentality you know when I step on that field.

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Speaker 1: One thing all the receivers have said is that he

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Speaker 1: lets you know and he's very clear about what he

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Speaker 1: wants from you guys, what he wants you to do

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Speaker 1: with how he wants you to do it. What does

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Speaker 1: that mean in practice when you're right there on the field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's all it's all time, and it's

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Speaker 4: all time, and you know, you know, being in the

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Speaker 4: Trusting you know, it's all about trust, you know. You know,

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Speaker 4: can you trust your receivers? Can you trust your quarterback?

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Speaker 4: And you know, for a quarterback, perspective is, you know,

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Speaker 4: can it receive it being the spot that I want

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Speaker 4: them at? And for receiver, you know, perspective is if

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Speaker 4: I'm getting open, can I get the ball? You know,

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Speaker 4: And once those two sides are working, you know, that's

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Speaker 4: when the relationship, you know, continues to build.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm working on.

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Speaker 1: What were your big goals just heading into this offseason,

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Speaker 1: trying to get back and be a better player?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Uh, for me, it's just consistency, being disciplined, making the

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Speaker 4: players that come to me, you know, and once you

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Speaker 4: do that, more opportunities, you know, they come.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's really my mindset.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you heard your teammate Darius said. He said,

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Speaker 1: I think Jay will put on fifteen to twenty pounds

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Speaker 1: Do you want to share how much you did add

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I played at like one seventy one

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Speaker 4: telling you that's what That's what darkness does to you.

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Speaker 3: It changes you.

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Speaker 1: Yep, you even't lost any speed though.

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Speaker 4: But for me, it's just uh, you know, learning to

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Speaker 4: play bigger, play stronger through contact. And you know, I

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Speaker 3: Just felt like, uh, just felt weak. So just had

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Speaker 1: I think that's fantastic. You mentioned trying to play through contact.

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Speaker 1: Now in the spring, there's not as much as that, right,

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Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing how this will translate once the

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Speaker 4: You know, like you say, you know right now this

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Speaker 4: is all about you know, developing relationships and you know,

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Speaker 4: learning your teammates, and you know this really in the

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Speaker 4: in the real thing. Yet you know, when trainee camp

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Speaker 4: that's when things start, you know, really really start kicking

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Speaker 4: in and uh preseason and obviously you know the season,

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Speaker 4: so you know, I'm really that's what I'm looking forward to.

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Speaker 4: I've been looking forward to the season since the last

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Speaker 4: but it's coming now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not tracking this every play, but I'm out here

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Speaker 1: watching every practice, and my sense is that they're moving

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Speaker 1: at all the receivers around a little bit more. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing you, I saw you inside a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: What has that been like moving to a lot of

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Speaker 4: You know, I had a good conversations with Dave's and

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Speaker 4: you know, what we can do to you know, have

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Speaker 4: a better you know year three, you know for me

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Speaker 4: you know, I want to move around. Don't want to

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Speaker 4: Uh So that's really that's really what my mentality is,

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Speaker 3: And also to my.

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Speaker 1: Coaches, why do you like playing in the slot? Uh?

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Speaker 4: You know, for me, it's just that's that's I'm just

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Speaker 4: It's just I just love moving around because you know,

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Speaker 3: So you know, that's that's that's probably why.

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Speaker 1: Final two questions, compare your comfort level in this offense

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Speaker 1: running all the routes they asked you to run today.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take you back to when you're a rookie,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure then you know that's a whole another

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Speaker 3: Uh, I can run every route that never been a.

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Speaker 1: And you weren't practice, by the way.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, definitely can run every route. But for me,

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Speaker 4: it's just you know, showing that, you know, not on

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Speaker 4: obviously I didn't have a lot of opportunities last year,

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Speaker 4: opportunities when I did have him, And uh, that's how

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Speaker 3: You know, you you you you.

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Speaker 4: Take advantage of the opportunities to get more. And you

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Speaker 4: know that's really my mamset going into the year three.

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Speaker 1: Final question, what makes the Russell Wilson deep ball as

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Speaker 1: legendary as it is? Because you know, we all heard about,

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Speaker 1: we see it on TV, and then you come in

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Speaker 4: No, He's obviously a great, great player, you know, great

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Speaker 4: resume that he has and what he's done since he's

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Speaker 3: You know, he throws it.

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Speaker 4: He trusted your he trusted the receiver to go get it,

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Speaker 4: and uh, you know that's one thing that you know,

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Speaker 4: he told me, you know, Tom, Tom, we got him.

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Speaker 4: You know, he called me and you know we had

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Speaker 4: His number saved, and like it was this and just

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Speaker 4: that's really you know what I'm trying to do, you know,

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Speaker 1: Let me just follow up with that. Is it? One

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Speaker 1: guys who were in perfect coordination on a back shoulder

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Speaker 1: throw the covers is good. I think it was pauls

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Speaker 1: was really annoyed. He's like, I had good coverage, but

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Speaker 1: It is that the type of being in the right

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Speaker 4: Sure, for sure, you know, it's that's why you know,

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Speaker 4: that's why I say about saying, you know, being in

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Speaker 4: that's what it comes down to. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 4: all about time, and it's all about time. And you know,

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Speaker 4: obviously he's the d line rush in the NFL these

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Speaker 4: days are elite. You guys get back there quick, and

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Speaker 4: you know it makes it harder on the quarterback obviously,

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Speaker 4: but for receivers, we got to speed up our routes.

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Speaker 4: We got to speed up our uh speed up what

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Speaker 4: you know what we gotta do and uh you know,

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Speaker 4: like you said on that back shoulder. Yeah it was

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Speaker 4: against Boston, you know, obviously a great corner in this league.

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Speaker 4: But uh, just developing that relationship that we have. You know, Tom,

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Speaker 4: he wants me at and you know, taking advantage.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: Chilling chilling, you know, do cool?

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Speaker 3: How cool?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: So this is now your second year, Like is your

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Speaker 2: Is it just like yeah, it's definitely up a whole

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Speaker 2: and going into the same team with the same team.

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Speaker 2: So I was with every team so far for one

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Speaker 3: Cake to the curve.

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Speaker 1: So how has it made a difference for you?

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Speaker 2: I just feel like they trust me. I feel like

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Speaker 2: I played really good and whenever I'm whatever I'm asked

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Speaker 1: We spoke it in the last year and I think

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Speaker 2: You gotta be fearless kick returnerick kick returners are like

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Speaker 1: So, how did the new kickoff rules change your approach

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Speaker 2: Year, it's definitely I feel like, you know, it made

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm the type of person that I can

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Speaker 1: You think around the league, they you know, they're trying

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Speaker 2: A little bit, I would like to say, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: So now you also have a chance to be in

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Speaker 1: this offense for a second year, do you think we

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I want to do. I want to

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Speaker 2: I don't even need a lot. If you go through

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Speaker 2: get what I'm saying. So I do my work, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't need that many chances. But when I do

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Speaker 2: have the ball, I'm something to see and I'm worth watching.

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Speaker 1: Efficient and explosive. It's a good combination.

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Speaker 2: I love gets the job done.

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Speaker 1: You're good stuff that I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes

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Speaker 1: receiver Wanda Rominson Wondo. What's up, dude?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 1: How's this offense different heading into this year for you?

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Speaker 1: Like you've seen this evolve different quarterbacks, and I think

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Speaker 1: I think Brian David does a great job of justin

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Speaker 1: you have a bunch of new quarterbacks, like all new

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks except for Tommy, things are gonna change. So how

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Speaker 1: do you think this thing's gonna look different?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I definitely think it'll just look different from

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Speaker 3: Door and things like that.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, I just think we'll just continue to

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Speaker 1: Are you enjoying moving around more? You talking about this?

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Speaker 1: And you know in the media, I j one here

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Speaker 5: I'm not definitely like getting moved around a lot, and

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Speaker 5: I I mean, I just think it expands all my routes,

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Speaker 1: The spring against your teammates and unpadded practices. Can you

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no doubt. I mean it's like you give

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Speaker 5: It's our jobs to go out there and make those plays.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, he tells us all the time he's

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Speaker 5: he's gonna throw it up. So it's all nice to

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Speaker 1: What makes the rust deep ball, the rust deep ball

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Speaker 5: Man, it just drops right in that bucket said, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I say it's soft, and it's literally it looks like

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Speaker 1: Is it tough adjusting your eyes though? Where you have

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Speaker 1: Do you have to adjust how you're locating the ball

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Speaker 3: Definitely a little bit.

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Speaker 5: But I mean for the most part, he kind of

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Speaker 1: What has it been like gaining chemistry with him? How

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he tells you exactly what he wants,

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Speaker 1: And I know Brian Dable has even with the media,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's any question about

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Speaker 1: So hey, look, and I'm seeing a bunch of screen

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, yeah, no doubt. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: You know, what are your personal goals you kind of

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Speaker 5: the down the field, stuff underneath will be that much

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Speaker 5: more open and create that many more opportunities for run

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Speaker 5: after catching, which I feel like is kind of my

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Speaker 5: special ability.

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Speaker 1: So well, we can't wait to see it. Oneell, thanks dude,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, man, Thank you very much. That's the Giants

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. Great talking to them. It should be a

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Speaker 1: big year with new quarterbacks in the building, some big

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Speaker 1: time production from these guys as they try to find

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Speaker 1: chemistry with this set of quarterbacks, so all the time

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Speaker 1: we have for the Giants. Total Podcast brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Citizens Official Banking the Giants. We'll see you next time.