1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hey there, Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I am 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: excited to have Adam Coleman back with me today. He 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: has a new book out. We've spoken with Adam before, 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: and I think he has a very interesting perspective in 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: the world today as a former Democrat who is now 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: speaking honestly and openly about how the politicized media lied 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: to him for many years and kept him from truly 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: understanding the conservative point of view. I think it's very 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: interesting for us to bring him in. He is the 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: founder of Wrong Speak Publishing and the author of the 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: book Black Victim to Black Victor. Adam, thank you for joining. 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Me, Thank you for having me back on. 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: I appreciate it absolutely so. I mean, I think that 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: since we last talked, a lot has changed in the world, 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: and we're seeing some very strange things happening. And I 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: would say, out of both political parties right now, I 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: think everybody is sort of reacting strangely to what's going 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: on across the world. And I would say in some cases, 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: I think Republicans are trying to create extra government to 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: somehow counteract what's happening, and Democrats are sort of silent 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: on everything that's going on, so I kind of wanted 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: to get your opinion on what you think is going 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: on right now in the world before we kind of 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: dive into how you actually came to this fact that 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: the media was manipulating you. 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: Sure, if I was to summarize what's happening right now, 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: I think a lot of it is extreme polarization mixed 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: in with propaganda. I haven't really talked about this publicly, 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: but much of the different scenes around the college campuses, 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: and while everybody on the superficial levels talking about the 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: Marxist movement, you know, these college kids are being in 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: doctrinary in schools. These are things we all understand, but 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: there the counter movement in many ways is part of 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: the show. And a lot of this seems like not 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's orchestrated, but it reminds 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: me of when people describe the Civil War in the 37 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: United States, how in one particular area there's just mayhem, 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: be chaos and blood being shed, but yet on other 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: parts of the town it was like nothing was going on. 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: And that's what it feels like. It's almost like a 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: manufactured battleground that's happening across the country where not just 42 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: the people, not just the kids in these colleges, but 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: you have outsiders who are coming in to join the fight, 44 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: whether it's for Palestine or against Palistine, for Israel against 45 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: his Ra or whatever it might be. But you have 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: all these different factions that are finding these colleges as 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: like a battleground. And I'm wondering, is this just because 48 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: this is what we want or is this something that 49 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: we're being pushed into being part of. 50 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: Do you see the media having a role in this? 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you've talked about how the media impacted you 52 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: throughout life. Do you see the media impacting this narrative 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: right now? 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely? And not just mainstream media, and usually when we 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: say mainstream mean left wing media, but right wing media 56 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: as well. There's this need to get involved, you must 57 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: say something, you must get out there, you have to 58 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: join the fight. They use these almost militarized terms to 59 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: get normal people part of the chaos. And at the 60 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: end of the day, I'm a very analytical type person, 61 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: and I think to myself, does doing this produce the 62 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: outcome that we're looking for? What does screaming at some 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: college student who's holding up a sign that you just 64 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: agree with change nothing. It doesn't really change anything. 65 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: But I okay, so let me argue this. Do you 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: think that today is about change in making things better? 67 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: Or is today about ratings? And whereas it used to 68 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: just be ratings for those big networks, now it's a 69 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: different type of rating because everyone is a citizen journalist 70 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: and they want to be on Twitter and they want 71 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: to have all the and they want to have all 72 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: the shares, and they want to just get bigger and 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger, and every situation like this is now 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: blown out of proportion because there are people who want 75 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: to become famous because of the situation. 76 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 2: And that's exactly the point. So being that I'm thinking 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: analytically that screaming and some college students' face doesn't change anything, 78 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: then there's only one other reason. It's to make yourself 79 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: feel better or to gain some sort of attention. And 80 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: I think there are citizen journalists who like this for 81 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: the idea of they can take some videos of some 82 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: wild and crazy person saying something wild and crazy, and 83 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: then they can share it and get a bunch of attention. 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: Like we're in an attention economy. And I don't think 85 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with acknowledging this. And it's not just 86 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: one party that's doing a one political spectrum that's doing it. 87 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: Everyone's part of it. Right, there is no civil war 88 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: if there aren't two factions who are part of it. 89 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: You know they're This entire thing to me just feels 90 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: very much so manufactured. If Columbia students want to sit 91 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: on their lawn and complain to the administration, then let 92 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: them sit on the lawn and complain to the administration. 93 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: It doesn't require me getting up out of my house 94 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: and going to Columbia and complaining that they're taking over 95 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: their own lawn. I don't care. What does it matter? 96 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: And it's not to say, like I for the people 97 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: who are standing wanted to stand up for Israel and 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: things of that nature. I get it. You can strongly 99 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: disagree with their stances and what they're doing. But at 100 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: the end of the day, is them sitting on the 101 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: lawn changing anything in your life? No, Is them putting 102 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: up an encampment changing anything in your life. 103 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: No. 104 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: If anything, they're destroying the very environment that indoctrinated them. 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: So let them destroy it. And I don't understand this 106 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: need to want to go in there and have them 107 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: do otherwise when this entire like for the past two 108 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: three years, maybe four years, we've heard nothing from the 109 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: political right other than saying, let them die as far 110 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: as the institutions, let them die. And here they are 111 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: killing it and you want to get in their way. 112 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Interesting. I mean, I guess to a certain extent, I 113 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: get what you're saying. I think that there's also I 114 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: mean a lot of people, these are their alma maters. 115 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: This is like a part of their history, a part 116 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: of their culture, a part of American culture, and they're saying, wow, 117 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: this radical ideology of you know, it goes beyond just 118 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: a protest when you're saying we won't let Jewish kids 119 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: on campus, we want to kill Jews, and then that 120 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: becomes that spreads and these people kind of become, I mean, 121 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: they become indoctrinated in this next level rhetoric that is 122 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: now now you're talking about saying things that are not 123 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: protected by the First Amendment. And I think that's been 124 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: kind of funny to watch how we've had these people 125 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: who have come out and they've been like, oh, America 126 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: is so free, and I think to a certain extent 127 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: and so spoiled that They're like, I can say whatever 128 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: I want if I think that I should. You know, 129 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: we have the What was she like the girl who 130 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: went to the county commission meeting or whatever it was 131 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: in California who then was arrested because she said she 132 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: was going to actually murder people in their homes, And 133 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: she's like, what do you mean this is not a 134 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: protected speech? Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. When 135 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: did we get to the point where our students, and 136 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: especially I think that might be what it is. I 137 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: think it's such a shock to Americans right now to 138 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: look at this and go, we have students at some 139 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: of our most revered universities who don't understand that these 140 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: statements cross the line. 141 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: Well, that's the use of word revered. And that's the thing. 142 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: The reason why these Marxists get to continue to use 143 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: these institutions the way that they are using it is 144 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: because they've been revered. The reality is that in many ways, 145 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: Harvard Columbia, all these Ivy League institutions are skin suits 146 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: of what they used to be. They're not the same. 147 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: And that's the problem. We're not letting it fail. We 148 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: should let it fail. I'm a believer in and I 149 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: say this personally. There's many times I failed in my life, 150 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: but I've recovered from it because I failed. There's so 151 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: much you can learn from failure. And I think this 152 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: is probably a time we should let these institutions fail, 153 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: to let them see where they've gone wrong. And by 154 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: wanting to go in there and try to rescue them 155 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: or try to show them their errors in their ways, no, 156 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: let them fail. I'm like, I'm a strong believer in that, 157 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: whether it be a politician, whether it be an institution, 158 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: whether it be just a Joe Schmo down the street, 159 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: sometimes failure is the greatest lesson of them all. And 160 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: I think we're not understanding that failure might be necessary 161 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: for this. You know, if we're experiencing a revolution or 162 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: a counter or yeah, I would say maybe some sort 163 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: of cultural revolution, then these institutions are culpable for it happening. 164 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: So why are we going in there trying to rescue 165 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: something that has been dying And it's probably been dead 166 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: for quite some time. And it's just these people are 167 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: wearing Columbia as a skin suit on their diplomas, right, 168 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: So I say let them die, let them die off, 169 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: and let them be reborn into what they're supposed to be. 170 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: But it's the choice is up to Columbia, the choice 171 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: is up to Harvard. The choice is up to these institutions. 172 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 2: Right if they want to let these kids take over 173 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: their campus, then this is the moment they can look 174 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: at themselves and say, maybe we've gone too far. 175 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting as we're talking about this, because your 176 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: book is from Going from a Victim to a Victor, 177 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: and I think that as you look at these universities, 178 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: you see a lot of these kids that have come 179 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: out and they even though this is a situation that 180 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: doesn't directly affect them, they believe that they are victims. 181 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: And you've seen this throughout your life for Black Americans specifically, 182 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: that you believe that they're constantly lied to about the 183 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: source of their community's issues and that people are profiting 184 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: off of that pain, but then leaving Black Americans in 185 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: a community that's not thriving. So let's get into that 186 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: a little bit, because I think this is something that 187 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: people across the country in the political world are like, well, 188 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: how do we talk to black communities specifically? And I 189 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: will say that when I was campaigning, we didn't go 190 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: into Flint Michigan, and the reason was strategic because of 191 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: resources and because we knew that that community was going 192 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: to vote Democrat and we weren't going to have enough 193 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: time to spend in there to be able to say, hey, 194 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: we can we want to do this for you, we 195 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: want to do that for you. And afterward the Mare 196 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: came up to me and he was like, why didn't 197 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: you come to Flint? And you know, I thought, I 198 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: just don't think that anyone there would believe me. But 199 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: I do think that there is a question of how 200 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: do we how do we what do What do black 201 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: Americans believe from the press that you've been talking about, 202 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: and what do they actually need from politicians? 203 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: Sure? What do they believe from the press? Think of 204 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: it like anything else. If there is someone that you're 205 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: only remotely familiar with, you have no personal interaction with, 206 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: you have no personal experience with, and someone tells you 207 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: a falsehood about them, I mean, do you have a 208 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: counterbalance to that statement? And then two people tell you 209 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: false statements And it's like, oh, man, I heard that 210 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: from somebody else, so that must be true because I 211 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: have no idea. I've never met these people, and quite literally, 212 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: I've talked to politicians who have gone into these areas, 213 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: and they say all the time that people tell them 214 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: it's the first time I've talked to a Republican. They've 215 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: never met a Republican. God forbid, they've met a Republican 216 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: that's actually trying to get their vote. And so when 217 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: the question becomes how do we get black Americans, it's 218 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: how you get any other American one. You have to 219 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: go to where they live. And I think, and this 220 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: is not reformation on you, because I understand. I understand 221 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: the perspective of you have limited resources, you have donors 222 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: who give you certain amount of money. You want to 223 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: use that money in the most efficient way possible. And 224 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: I think it's sometimes unfair to put someone like yourself 225 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: who's running for a state election to go in there 226 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: and try to do a herculean effort in an area 227 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: that no one has tried in before. Right, So I 228 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: can understand it's. 229 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: Also very disingenuous if you suddenly you're like, oh, now 230 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: I'll walk in and you know, and I think that's 231 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: what people have said. Also, Gosh, I have politicians come 232 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: around every two years or every four years, and suddenly 233 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: they care and then they walk away, And I think 234 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: that from my perspective. You know, obviously when you're in 235 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: the middle of a campaign, you're also taking advice from 236 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: your consultants, and people are saying, Okay, this is the 237 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: strategy of how we could get enough people to win 238 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: this state. But the question that I have for you 239 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: really is what are we missing? What is the discussion 240 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: and what is the need the need from those communities 241 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: from government that we don't understand. 242 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: Well, that's actually the point I was really going to 243 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: make is that I don't think that there is one 244 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: general This is what the black community wants, I think 245 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: very much. So it is something that crosses racial lines. 246 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: We all care about our economics, we all care about 247 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: our safety, right, and maybe there are certain black areas 248 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: that are less safe than others, and these are also 249 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: the areas that want more policing. 250 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: We'll be right back on the Tutor Dixon Podcast with 251 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: more from Adam Coleman, But first let me tell you 252 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the International Fellowship of Christians 253 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: and Jews. 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Well, 277 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: I'll just pick on Democrats who are head for years 278 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: said defund the police. And obviously they're putting They're not 279 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: putting my neighborhood in danger, They're putting a different neighborhood 280 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: in danger. And so you see that that narrative has 281 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: come out of that side. But then this new in 282 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: the last few years where it's like let criminals out, 283 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: let people steal, let businesses be destroyed. These in communities 284 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: like Minneapolis where they just allowed people to go riot. 285 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: These were black owned businesses that got destroyed. And so 286 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: I I and then and still do today in these 287 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: communities where it's like you can steal up to nine 288 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: hundred dollars and there is no you get no backlash 289 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: from there's punishment for that. Why is there Why is 290 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: there a lack of understanding that the people who are 291 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: allowing this are not helping you. 292 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think there is an understanding. I think that 293 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: there's an increasingly understanding point to that. The I think 294 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: what happens when we have these political discussions, we only 295 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: see it in the binary. Either you're voting a Republican 296 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: or you're voting Democrat. But there's a third choice and 297 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: it's not libertarians. I'm sorry libertarians. The third choice. The 298 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: third choice is you don't vote. There's voter apathy, and 299 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: voter apathy is a real thing. And when I try 300 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: to point out to people, because the automatic discussion is, oh, 301 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: all these black people live in Chicago, love them some Democrats, 302 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: And I'm like, have you looked at just in the 303 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: city alone, the percentage of registered voters, not citizens, of 304 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: registered voters that actually go out and vote, and it's 305 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: incredibly low. And that's because people are like, what's the 306 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: point in voting? We have one part and that's it, 307 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: And they all it's basically a matter of do I 308 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 2: want a blue dog Democrat that barely cares or do 309 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: I want a communist? You know, and what's happening these 310 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: days is that the blue dog Democrats are catering to 311 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: the communists. So it's like, well, what's the point why 312 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: even go out there and vote? And when there's only 313 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: one party option, that's it. So either you vote for 314 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: them or you stay home and what that gets translated into. 315 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 2: We see these eighty eighty five percent Black Americans are 316 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: voting for the Democrat Party. Is there obvious propaganda that's 317 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 2: going on. Are there cultural aspects that are happening, Yeah, obviously, 318 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: But that's not the entire story. The entire story is 319 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: that they don't know Republicans and Republicans aren't fighting for 320 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: their vote. And this is not new. So when we 321 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: look at cities like Chicago, they haven't had a Republican 322 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: mayra since the early nineteen hundreds. New Orleans hasn't had 323 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: a Republican mayra since the late eighteen hundreds. So this 324 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: is something that has been going on for a century. 325 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: In many of these places, this is a commonplace and 326 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: it becomes cultural, it becomes a norm. And honestly, you 327 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: could say the same thing for rural voters who live 328 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 2: in these various places. Democrats aren't trying to fight for 329 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: the rural vote. I mean, that's what it is. They 330 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: have one party to vote for or they stay home too. 331 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: So we have a very fractured country when it comes 332 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: to voting patterns and politicians who are trying to get 333 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: everyone's vote from both parties. 334 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: What do you think that it means when I mean, 335 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: explain to me what it means when you talk about 336 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: being a black victim. 337 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: Being a black victim means that because I see it 338 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: as a relationship. When you have a victim, you have 339 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: a savior. And when you're a victim, it becomes no 340 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: longer your responsibility for your problems. It's no longer your 341 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 2: fault as to your circumstance. And listen, sometimes you're born 342 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: into a circumstance and that's what it is. But there 343 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: are many things that happen in life that you have 344 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: control over. But when you relegate your control onto someone 345 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: else as to being someone else's fault, then that's the 346 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: victim mentality. You don't believe that you can overcome those obstacles. 347 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: And then on the other side, there's a savior, right 348 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: the savior says, you know what it is my fault 349 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 2: and I will save you. I will do these things 350 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: for you. And they'll give you lip service, but at 351 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's self serving for them, 352 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: and often they're not going to help you. And what's 353 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: very interesting if you add in, like the Marxist dialogue, 354 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: you have the oppressed versus the oppressor, and the way 355 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: they actually talk about it is the oppressed. The oppressed 356 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: who've been oppressed by these oppressors are supposed to wait 357 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: for the oppressors to change their mind and start doing 358 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: for the oppressed. It's a very weird dynamic that you 359 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: would expect someone who, if I was to take their narrative, 360 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: someone who hurt you is going to turn around and 361 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: help you at the same time. But yeah, I would 362 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: say victim mentality. When I talk about black victim and 363 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: black victor part of it. I'm talking about myself on 364 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: a personal level. I'm talking about culturally. But you can 365 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: replace black and put anything in there. And I see 366 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: victim ideology all over the place. I see victim ideology 367 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: and politics. You know, it's everywhere. 368 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: And that's what I was going to say. Man, if 369 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: we look today, it's like, what is what is my victimhood? 370 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: You have to hold up your badge of these are 371 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: the categories that I fit within. So I don't think 372 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: that it is it belongs to one race at this time. 373 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: I think it's become kind of a way of life, 374 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: and it's never it never used to be the way 375 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: of life in the United States. Everybody was kind of 376 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: like the American dream and I can do anything. And 377 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: now it's it's really changed, and I think it's been 378 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: very harmful to society. But when you look at coming 379 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: out of that your own personal story, I mean, how 380 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: do we draw the country out of this woe is 381 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: me situation? And like I said, I would go beyond 382 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: just the black race. I would say as a society. 383 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: I mean, whether you are a college student, or you 384 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: are identifying as something or you know, there's always some 385 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: victimhood there. How did you get out of that? How 386 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: do you convince people to see the light. 387 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: Well, one of the ways I got out of it 388 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: was failing. Victim ideology leads to. 389 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: Failure and no one rescuing you exactly. 390 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: But I mean, I think. 391 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: Parents need to hear that because too often parents are 392 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: pulling people out of these situations like, Oh, don't worry, 393 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: you didn't really fail. But if you don't fail, you 394 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: can never achieve exactly exactly. 395 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: You know. Even with my son. It's funny because my 396 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 2: favorite thing to tell my wife when something's going on, 397 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 2: She's like, oh no, but what I'm like, It'll be fine. 398 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: That's my favorite response to something that's happened with my son, 399 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: he'll be fine and because he will let him go 400 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: with through whatever is going on. It sucks, but he'll 401 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: be fine and you'll learn something from it, and he has, 402 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: because that's how we learn things in life. And when 403 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: someone's steam rolls all your troubles, you don't learn anything. 404 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: So yeah, in treating them like a victim, telling them 405 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: that it's not your fault, yeah, it probably is their fault. 406 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: It probably is their fault. And honestly, one of the 407 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 2: ways that I stay from victim ideology is I am 408 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: very critical of myself and I always ask, no matter 409 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: what the circumstance is, how could I have done better 410 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: in the circumstance. It could have been something where let's 411 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: say I got fired from a job and I said, 412 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: you know, it's because my boss didn't like me. Or 413 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: I could have said, you know what, I could have 414 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: done better at X, Y and Z, so next time 415 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: I'll do better and I won't get fired. That's how 416 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: I approach it. It's not my boss's fault, it's my fault. 417 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: Right even so, it's not me taking ownership of someone 418 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: else's stuff, but it's acknowledging that I have weaknesses, and 419 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: we all have weaknesses, and that's how you actually get 420 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: better and grow. You have to reflect on who you 421 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: are as a person. But the problem is that we 422 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: tell people there's nothing wrong with you, everything is fine, 423 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: and it's them who won't accept you. They, you know, 424 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: just bring yourself to the workplace, you know, and it's like, no, 425 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: you need to take a look at yourself and notice 426 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: the errors where you're weak. 427 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 428 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. I literally sat in a like 429 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: a chamber of commerce meeting, a local one, and they 430 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: had college students in there and they had you know, 431 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: they are all these businesses and we're in Michigan, so 432 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: there were many manufacturing businesses. And the people who are 433 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: leading the meeting said to the college students, you know, 434 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: what do you think is important for these businesses to 435 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: understand about you? And they said, you need to understand 436 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: if you want people to come and work at your companies, 437 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: you can't be strict about times. We need to be 438 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: able to sleep in. We want to get up when 439 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: we want. There are going to be times when we 440 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: don't want to have to come into the office and 441 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: the room of college students and professors that were there 442 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: and the people that were the administrators at the chamber. 443 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: They roared with clapping and hooting and hollering and stood 444 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: and I looked around the room and these employers were like, 445 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: oh gosh. And that to me was really a turning 446 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: point for our community, where I see employers who were like, yeah, 447 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: if we have a first shift and we're making cars 448 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: for parts for cars, it does it. You can't come 449 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: in late, like, you can't decide to come in whenever 450 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: you come in. That's just not real life. But I 451 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: do think that we are in in a society that 452 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: has been your special It's up to you. You make 453 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: your own future, you make your own day, and there's 454 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: no reality that you don't. You do not make the 455 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: rules at the company. And that was one of the 456 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: things that the students said, and then the chamber reiterated. 457 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: They were like, you have to understand if you want employees, 458 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: this is now an employees market, and you have to 459 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: like essentially bow to them, bend the need to the 460 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: employees to say whatever you want. How did we get here. 461 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: There's no other country that's doing this. 462 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: We got here through bad parenting and a lot of 463 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 2: people don't like hearing that, but it's true. Actually, I 464 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 2: just wrote a piece a few weeks ago for the 465 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: New York Post about a survey that came out for 466 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: Red Balloon, and they talked to I believe is eighty 467 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: thousand small businesses to ask them about gen Z and 468 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: give them some sort of grade, and all the categories 469 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: they failed, and the biggest thing that they came back 470 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 2: with was saying that they're entitled. And they gave some 471 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: they you know, they allowed them to put some reasons 472 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: or some scenarios, and you know, they think they can 473 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: do whatever they want. They think that they can just 474 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: come in late and get a raise just cause like 475 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: it's high levels of entitlement. And the what ends up 476 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: happening is like the quick reaction is like, oh, look 477 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: at gen Z, but someone raised them. You're not born entitled. 478 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: Someone raised you to be that way. And so I 479 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: say this as a parent who has a gen Z 480 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: child who is not like this. You know, there are 481 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: plenty of times I could have told my son sure, 482 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: and I said no, and he accepted it because that's 483 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: how I raised him. I raised him not to get everything. 484 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: Because sometimes life disappoints you, and he has to prepare 485 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 2: himself for that. But when you steamroll everything for your 486 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: children and then they get in the workforce and then 487 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: you shrug your shoulders, I don't understand what's wrong with 488 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: this generation. We just gave him trophies for being involved. 489 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: Well, no, it's not it. And it goes beyond that. 490 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: When I was in manufacturing and we made castings and 491 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: then we had the machine, so we would go to 492 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: machine shops and so like the foundry, I will admit 493 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: is a dirty environment in Stark and you know, it's 494 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: very hard work. The machine shops were super clean. I 495 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: mean in some of these machine shops you could eat 496 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: off the floor right and there they can schedule the 497 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: work through their cell phone. And it's not It is 498 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: good work. It pays really well and it's not like 499 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: you for the most part, it's not backbreaking. You're moving things. 500 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: If you're moving them, you have a lift and all 501 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: of that. And these guys were like, we can't get 502 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: people to work. And he said, last week, I had 503 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: a kid who is twenty one years old, and I 504 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: didn't his machine was broken down. So I had him 505 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: on cleaning duty and his mother called and said, how 506 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: could you be so disrespectful to my son? He's not 507 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: a janitor, he is a respected worker. You should treat 508 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: him with respect. His mum, I think about the irony 509 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: of that he's respected. You need to treat him well. 510 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: His mother is calling his work and saying, treat him well. 511 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: They said, we regularly have parents call in to tell 512 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: us that the person is going to be sick and 513 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: can't come to work. At what point, when as an adult, 514 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: did you ever have your parent call in sick for 515 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: you at work? I mean, it was unheard of when 516 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: we were young. But what did we do? I mean, 517 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: I admit I think it's something in our generation of parenting. 518 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: And how do we stop it? 519 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. How do we stop it? I 520 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: don't know if you can, And we might have to 521 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: let our generation fail and go back to that theme. 522 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: You might have to let them fail. But what you 523 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: don't do is to use a doctor phyllism. You don't 524 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: reward bad behavior, right, you don't say, you know what? 525 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: It's the third kid who has his mom calling and 526 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: calling sick because he's not feeling well, or because he's 527 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: been out drinking too much and he has a little 528 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: bit of a hangover. He said, no, we're just going 529 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: to be short staffed until we find the right people, 530 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: and then they will learn, because otherwise they're going to 531 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: be unemployed and then they're going to be forced to 532 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: look at themselves and only mommy can do so much. 533 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: Right, It's true, I mean, and it goes back to 534 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: like that whole saying of like hard times make strong men, 535 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: strong men, make good times. Good times make weak men. 536 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: You know. It's like I'm seeing that happen right now, 537 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: and I look at these young people today and I mean, 538 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: and I'm guilty of it too. I'll say to my 539 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: kids like I would never have said that to my mother, 540 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like, how how is this happening in my 541 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: own house? And I think there are a lot of 542 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: outside influences as well, and I think as parents we 543 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: have to be very very strict about what the outside 544 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: influences can be. And it goes beyond social media. People 545 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: don't always talk about these television programs that kids are watching, 546 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: and if you look at the Nickelodeons and the Disney's, 547 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: they're very disrespectful to adults. They don't have any responsibility. 548 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: And oftentimes these kids somehow live alone. It's like they 549 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: live with just an older brother. How is this the case? 550 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: And they have like adult lives, but their children and 551 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: because they have these adult lives, kids think, well, I 552 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: can do that too, and it's not reality. So I 553 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: do think that, I mean, you're just making me think 554 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: about all of this, and probably I am feeling guilty 555 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: as a parent, like, oh shoot, what am I doing 556 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: to screw up my own kids? But I do think 557 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: that we need to have these open conversations before we 558 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: go though. I want you to talk about your books. 559 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: So tell us about your book and tell people where 560 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: they can get it. 561 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I basically have a second edition to the 562 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: first one. Admittingly, when I wrote the first one, I 563 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: didn't really have a whole lot of expectations of people 564 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: reading it. You know, I was just an it guy 565 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: who just wants to express himself. I edited it along 566 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: with my wife, and I would have been happy if 567 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 2: ten people bought the book, and including my friends and family, 568 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: and you know, I sold thousand copies of the book, 569 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: and I wanted to have an opportunity to re edit 570 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 2: it along with doctor Tanya Hitler, who helped me in 571 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: that process. So this book can be used in different institutions. 572 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: It can be used in schools and not have to 573 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: see like these different errors that are in there. So 574 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: if you have the first book, it's much of the same. 575 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: This is just a more revised version, cover new interior. 576 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: But I just wanted to re release it in a 577 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: way where this is it. This is the final touch 578 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: is it's a little bit more cleaned up and be 579 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: seen in a more professional light. 580 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you coming on and talking about it. 581 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: It is black victim to black victor. We enjoy having 582 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: you on. I always love your perspective, and I think 583 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: it's good for us to talk about all of these 584 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: things because, like I said, it makes me even think, Okay, 585 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: what do I have to change? And it's a good 586 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: reminder to constantly be aware of your surroundings and aware 587 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: of what you're saying with your kids, and aware of 588 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: what you're saying with community members. Thank you so much, 589 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: Adam Coleman, thanks for being on my pleasure. Thank you absolutely, 590 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: and thank you all for joining us on the Tutor 591 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: Dixon Podcast. 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