Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to the Almost Famous podcast. It
Speaker 2: is Ashley and today I am joined by Jared.
Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: Oh, are you so excited to be here?
Speaker 3: No, I'm very excited to be here. But it's just
Speaker 3: like my overall nature. I know, I'll talk about things
Speaker 3: here we go.
Speaker 2: Actually, let's start with that. Do you know how I
Speaker 2: get comments on Instagram being like Jared doesn't look very well,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm happy, but I just have a I'm
Speaker 2: very people hold on, sorry, people would say that about
Speaker 2: my entire life, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: When I was on people would always say that's true.
Speaker 2: Like even on Bachelor, you were always like having that
Speaker 2: look off. Yeah, you were just looking stressed.
Speaker 3: I'm just very Henry cavill and Man of Steel, Like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's very neutral.
Speaker 2: So guys, if you see Jared on Instagram and he
Speaker 2: doesn't look like thrilled to be on my can't run,
Speaker 2: don't worry. That's just his arresting Jared face.
Speaker 3: Also, I feel like the majority of the pop relation
Speaker 3: to the human races like this, it's probably you know,
Speaker 3: It's like I get it. You're very you're authentic, and
Speaker 3: you're like very smiley, happy, go lucky type of personality.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure a lot of people just fake it
Speaker 3: on podcast. At least I'm not faking it.
Speaker 2: It's true. Okay, So, hi, Jared's here. We were thinking
Speaker 2: that we would talk about some stuff that you know,
Speaker 2: we have going on, and then we also are going
Speaker 2: to talk Bachelor headlines and a little bit of Jared's
Speaker 2: opinion on the new style of Bachelor and Paradise. He's
Speaker 2: really thrilled by it, actually, baby, I wish you had seen.
Speaker 2: So he doesn't follow follow listen. Jared only watches one
Speaker 2: show and that is Seinfeld. So and you guys, you
Speaker 2: don't even understand. He watches NERD movie Reviewers on YouTube,
Speaker 2: many hours of that and Seinfeld and that is it.
Speaker 2: I could never get him to watch five hours of
Speaker 2: Paradise every week. So but he watches in the background
Speaker 2: like as I'll have it on. And Jared's really good
Speaker 2: at watching things in the background. He picks up on
Speaker 2: stuff because you know, he is a movie analyst, so
Speaker 2: like anything that has to do with the screen he
Speaker 2: has an opinion on, even if it doesn't watch it
Speaker 2: like too intently, So I guess, like, let's start there.
Speaker 2: When you were watching in bed the other night with me,
Speaker 2: like you were taken aback by the stylized at it.
Speaker 3: I think my overall perspective on Paradise is that it's
Speaker 3: not it's not it's not Paradise anymore. It's not the
Speaker 3: same show, and that's done intentionally, and maybe that is
Speaker 3: for the best.
Speaker 2: I don't why would it be for the best. Most
Speaker 2: of the audience does not like this, according to polls
Speaker 2: that we've conducted that other fan accounts haven't conducted, and
Speaker 2: Tanner Delbert.
Speaker 3: I saw Tanner's pose because I also don't watch Love Island.
Speaker 3: I also don't watch a lot of these new dating
Speaker 3: shows that are crushing it. So perhaps Paradise and the
Speaker 3: Bachelor franchise does need to really change things up to
Speaker 3: try to move into this new wave and be more
Speaker 3: like these other dating shows. I don't know. All I
Speaker 3: can tell you is when I was watching Paradise with
Speaker 3: you the other night, it's very clearly not the same show,
Speaker 3: and it's done very intentionally that way. In terms of
Speaker 3: the way the cast is talking to the camera now
Speaker 3: straight on, it's much more it feels like they're trying
Speaker 3: to make it much cooler now with everybody, you know.
Speaker 2: Everybody's supposed to be so sexy, there's nothing clumsy about them.
Speaker 2: With the music Jill Jill brings a lot of realness
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 3: I miss just in terms of the the visuals, the
Speaker 3: slow motion, the camera work, the music. The show is
Speaker 3: not I hate saying this, the show is not very funny.
Speaker 2: No, actually, this is what I wish you saw. I
Speaker 2: was episode three because this is when the Goldens came in,
Speaker 2: and you and I were both not super keen on
Speaker 2: the Goldens coming in. They brought the old school Bachelor
Speaker 2: in Paradise humor and a big It was just so
Speaker 2: much more of a lighthearted episode. I told Ben, I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if like they slowed it
Speaker 2: down intentionally the edit or it just felt slower with
Speaker 2: the older people there, But it definitely Episode three felt
Speaker 2: more familiar to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think listen, as cast members of Paradise, we're
Speaker 3: all very lucky to be there, and as much like
Speaker 3: insecurities as I have, as everybody else does have, Like
Speaker 3: in terms of the general landscape of the world, we
Speaker 3: should be made fun of, you know, we've had. We
Speaker 3: had this opportunity to go on this beach and to
Speaker 3: date other people, and like nobody gets to do this.
Speaker 3: My point in saying that is like the show should
Speaker 3: make fun of us, Like they should show Ashley talking
Speaker 3: to a crab or whatever you were talking to.
Speaker 2: Like, oh raccoon. Oh no, I had the parrot, Claire
Speaker 2: had the recoon.
Speaker 3: That's right, and then like or like making me look
Speaker 3: stupid because I say something dumb or things of that nature,
Speaker 3: because it's funny, because we should be made fun of,
Speaker 3: because it's all in lightheartedness, because at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, we're so lucky, and I think a lot
Speaker 3: of the cast members know that, so I guess we'll
Speaker 3: watching it. They just try to make everybody look so cool,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I get it, They're already cool,
Speaker 3: Like I don't need you to try to emphasize that
Speaker 3: they're cooler than they.
Speaker 2: Already aready like in the ninety nine percentile of attractiveness.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. Like I kind of missed the
Speaker 3: days even when we were on the show and the
Speaker 3: show was making fun of us, it was I liked
Speaker 3: it because it's just kind of like brings everybody back
Speaker 3: down to earth a little bit, and it's it's just
Speaker 3: funny and self deprecating, and there was a style to
Speaker 3: Old Paradise. Now, granted, perhaps there needs to be a change.
Speaker 3: Maybe this show is not made for us, and that's
Speaker 3: totally fine. It's really whatever's best for Paradise. And so
Speaker 3: my opinion is just that it's my opinion. It doesn't
Speaker 3: mean that it's the best or worst thing for the
Speaker 3: future of the franchise.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to just fill you in on
Speaker 2: what happened that you didn't see, which is when I
Speaker 2: started to be able to ignore the style and focus
Speaker 2: on the content. Was when Susie and Justin. You know,
Speaker 2: I've rooted on for Susy and Justin. They've had a
Speaker 2: very similar storyline to you and me. They'd be started
Speaker 2: out as friends, two wonderful people, and we both liked
Speaker 2: them very much, and then they came to Paradise as
Speaker 2: a broken up couple. There was a lot of feelings
Speaker 2: there and there was like a lot of love still
Speaker 2: there and it was fun to watch. Now what happened
Speaker 2: was I just I don't know, do you know what happened? Okay,
Speaker 2: So it's really making the internet buzz right now because
Speaker 2: Lexi was like kind of like she'd gone on a
Speaker 2: date with Justin. They definitely had shown interesting each other.
Speaker 2: They barely made it. I don't even know that they
Speaker 2: made out. Remember that scene that you saw where they
Speaker 2: were making out, because there was that game that made
Speaker 2: them make out. That was like their only kiss. So
Speaker 2: that shows you how serious they actually were. Not very
Speaker 2: in my opinion, not very. She had a lot of
Speaker 2: reservations about him because she thought he was too fresh
Speaker 2: out of a relationship to be there. So what happens
Speaker 2: is he feels so bad about Susie not getting picked,
Speaker 2: like Susie didn't get a rose that week, that he
Speaker 2: ends up, of course having the last rose to give out,
Speaker 2: and he gives the rose to Susie so she can
Speaker 2: continue there and he lives and she you know, he
Speaker 2: had the rose, and then Lexi had to go home,
Speaker 2: except for he was like, I'm going to give this to,
Speaker 2: you know, Susie, and then I'm going to excuse myself.
Speaker 3: That's yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: He leaves. Yeah, people are angry. Lots of people are angry
Speaker 2: at him for doing this, thinking that he led Lexi on.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I think it was clear that
Speaker 2: Lexi didn't want to be with him.
Speaker 3: Dude. I saw one scene with kissing booth and she
Speaker 3: said you didn't want to kiss.
Speaker 2: Her and she was like, this is so awkward, so
Speaker 2: not me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very clear that Lexi was not into Justin yah,
Speaker 3: which again totally fine. Don't give Justin.
Speaker 2: She's given him so much crap online, like.
Speaker 3: I could, I'm team Justin, I know.
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe it's just because like I know
Speaker 2: him more, I know him personally.
Speaker 3: Also, it's what's wrong with that move? There's nothing I
Speaker 3: don't think because maybe if Lexi was into.
Speaker 2: Justin, then he would have probably given it to her.
Speaker 3: Or why can't they just try to develop something off
Speaker 3: the show? Did he maybe talk to her about that, saying, hey, listen,
Speaker 3: I'm leaving as well. You know, I'd love to like
Speaker 3: see if this could happen away from Paradise.
Speaker 2: Do you think that that was so you in this
Speaker 2: situation that we can bring this back to Arcie's in
Speaker 2: a Paradise you were in not really a similar predicament.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call that you were in a predicament at all.
Speaker 2: You were like, get the fuck out of here. Actually
Speaker 2: this is like, that's how I felt because I come in,
Speaker 2: you don't give me that rose though, way yeah right, okay,
Speaker 2: I know it's some sort of it's very similar. It's similar.
Speaker 2: I'm leading somewhere. Okay, so when I come in and
Speaker 2: Bachelor of Paradise three, I don't get a rose that
Speaker 2: first rose ceremony, and because you chose to give your
Speaker 2: rose to Kayla, it's okay, we don't have to talk
Speaker 2: about that. What happens is it was kind of a
Speaker 2: produced moment in which I was allowed to go down
Speaker 2: there and be like, hey, I uh, I really like,
Speaker 2: I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving. Basically it is exactly
Speaker 2: an it, and I was like, can you guys please
Speaker 2: like forgive me for being a hooligan. Well also like
Speaker 2: they had no options for me. They had like literally
Speaker 2: one single guy and that was what's the same from Canada,
Speaker 2: Daniel Daniel. Yeah, And then everybody was like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: that's fine. So basically Bette and I were being hypocrites
Speaker 2: yesterday because we're always like, oh, we don't want to
Speaker 2: see like produced moves, we don't want to see production
Speaker 2: and you know, fingerprints. But then when justin and Susie
Speaker 2: both get eliminated within and Susie's only on one episode.
Speaker 2: Susie Evans, the winner of Clayton season only gets one
Speaker 2: episode fan favorite. We were like, uh, we would like
Speaker 2: some production here. Can she please stay? How can we
Speaker 2: get her to stay? I thought she was saying, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I didn't clarify this too. She she said,
Speaker 2: I can't accept.
Speaker 3: This, so she leaves, and she left. Dude. That's when, yeah,
Speaker 3: producers to be like, yo, you're going to accept it. Relax,
Speaker 3: you're staying. Sus I'm thinking that they did it. She
Speaker 3: seemed shocked when he offered her that rose. I think
Speaker 3: she wasn't prepared and that was just herse She wasn't prepared.
Speaker 3: But I bet no producer that now gonna think that
Speaker 3: she Yeah, she would be, she'd say no, especially after
Speaker 3: Justin said, hey, I'm going to leave. Why would she
Speaker 3: leave too? Justin's gone.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, Justin didn't at the podium say
Speaker 2: that he was going to leave. It was when she
Speaker 2: rejected the rose that he said I'm going to leave.
Speaker 2: Because he had a milk down with Jesse in the room.
Speaker 2: So you're saying that's his biggest flaw.
Speaker 3: Well, this is it's kind of all stupid. Not the
Speaker 3: people involved obviously understand that there's a lot of motions,
Speaker 3: so they're going to make brass decisions.
Speaker 2: The problem is Justin was like, I'm going to eliminate you, Lexi,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to continue to stay here while giving
Speaker 2: a rose to my exe.
Speaker 3: I understand with one with one rose, with one rose
Speaker 3: not given out Lexi, Justin and Susie all we're allowed
Speaker 3: to go home? Yes, okay, so that seems a bit
Speaker 3: It's like, we don't want producers involved unless it's like
Speaker 3: extenuating circumstances, and this feels like an extenuating circumstance. Not
Speaker 3: all three of you guys can go home. We need,
Speaker 3: you know, either Susie or Justin to stay one of.
Speaker 2: You two one of the two of them for sure. Now,
Speaker 2: how much do we want to see the two of
Speaker 2: them interact more? Because their conversations in the episode were
Speaker 2: the ones that we were so drawn into. Of course,
Speaker 2: there's so much history they actually did, and Joe and
Speaker 2: Kendall were there, and you and I loved watching Joe.
Speaker 3: And Kendall there. Who didn't That's I mean, we watched
Speaker 3: the show for very real moments like that, and it
Speaker 3: doesn't get more real than that. Yeah, you know, the
Speaker 3: idea that Justin Susie were back together in Paradise after
Speaker 3: a lot of history together being best friends and then
Speaker 3: dating and then breaking up and then, you know, because
Speaker 3: as we both know, experiencing breakups, like when you break
Speaker 3: up with somebody, you're not just breaking up with them,
Speaker 3: but you're breaking up with everybody that you know, you
Speaker 3: became friends with. It's it's an awkward situation. So the
Speaker 3: idea of reuniting those two after so much history on
Speaker 3: the beach is very compelling. But I understand why one
Speaker 3: of them would have to go home. I think it
Speaker 3: was the healthiest thing for both of them. One of
Speaker 3: them goes home, and I think that one would have
Speaker 3: been Justin. Yeah, so I'm shocked that Susie is gone.
Speaker 2: Well, so, I mean, it's kind of funny. This podcast
Speaker 2: isn't meant to recap for somebody who hasn't seen it.
Speaker 2: But what's really interesting is I thought, oh, here comes
Speaker 2: the production move because Jeremy went on a date with Susie,
Speaker 2: but he ended up giving his rose to Bailey a
Speaker 2: day later. Bailey says yes to a date with Andrew Spencer,
Speaker 2: and you love Andrew Andrew and now when he when
Speaker 2: she does this, Jeremy calls. He calls Susie in the
Speaker 2: interview room and says, hey, I made a mistake. I
Speaker 2: want you to come back. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is the way in, this is the way to
Speaker 2: get Susie back, in to which she said, I'm at
Speaker 2: the airport. I don't I don't think it's good for
Speaker 2: me to come back.
Speaker 3: Well, I understand why Susie wouldn't come back. Yeah, why
Speaker 3: can't Andrew be the bachelor?
Speaker 2: He could be? Put it out there, yeah, and this
Speaker 2: so wonderful.
Speaker 3: It's like Dale is fine.
Speaker 2: You know who would make you happy to watch every week?
Speaker 2: Andrew with his jolly smile. It's adorable.
Speaker 3: He's just so endearing, so sweet. Yeah, why can't Andrew
Speaker 3: be the bachelor?
Speaker 2: You keep putting it out there. I think Dale doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like an option at all. All Dale has to me,
Speaker 2: it's a really pretty face. And he still to me
Speaker 2: comes across as like am I wrong? And say, I
Speaker 2: don't think he's a villain, but I think he's regarded
Speaker 2: as a bachelor villain. Yeah right, I mean I don't
Speaker 2: think he's a villain this person. I just think that
Speaker 2: he's not regarded as like somebody that like people would
Speaker 2: necessarily like.
Speaker 3: I think he's just very straight laced, which is not
Speaker 3: a batchel lace.
Speaker 2: No, I think I think about him.
Speaker 3: I've been watching I'm just seeing like.
Speaker 2: No, Jared, I'm just thinking about his history with Claire,
Speaker 2: Like I just feel like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's like what is he he's a model
Speaker 3: now model.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he does.
Speaker 3: I see him sometimes I'll like be perusing Amazon for
Speaker 3: like sports, and I'm like, is that Dale modeling this
Speaker 3: shirt on Amazon?
Speaker 2: Right now? It's not me having a It's just like
Speaker 2: I felt that Claire was played, I guess, And I'm
Speaker 2: always going to be a defender of Claire. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: he proposed her, right, Jared, they were together and they
Speaker 2: were talking bait.
Speaker 3: No, I remember that. But they didn't leave boyfriend girlfriend,
Speaker 3: they left engage. H Yeah, there's no shot Dale knew.
Speaker 3: There's no shot that Dale proposed that moment thinking like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is my wife. Okay, so that doesn't Claire is
Speaker 3: the best, you know what I mean? So I agree.
Speaker 3: I'm team Claire on that one, because it's like, bro,
Speaker 3: you knew, like there's no shot, no shot. Sorry, I
Speaker 3: don't believe you.
Speaker 2: So that's why I feel like Dale couldn't be Bachelor
Speaker 2: because there's just too much suspicion about there, you know,
Speaker 2: just too much suspicion around him.
Speaker 3: For me, well, it's for honestly, it's also whoever's gonna
Speaker 3: make the best TV? I mean, at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, of course, you want this to work. We
Speaker 3: all want this to work. But like you know, the
Speaker 3: most important thing is an entertaining product for the show,
Speaker 3: for your guy, for you guys, for everybody.
Speaker 2: So are we saying in this conversation that sometimes we
Speaker 2: feel like production does need to make moves to make
Speaker 2: great TV?
Speaker 3: Of course, I mean, who's naive enough to think that,
Speaker 3: like there'd be very little drama because it's one thing.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, and it's it's natural. It's very natural
Speaker 3: for human beings when faced with conflict, to try to
Speaker 3: avoid it, just avoid it. Yeah, exactly, like we would
Speaker 3: walk away from scenarios if we face with that right now.
Speaker 3: But it's like, so if what we want to see
Speaker 3: just people walk away from each other and then like
Speaker 3: cooler heads prevail later on. I mean that doesn't sound
Speaker 3: very entertaining or do you want them? It's not like
Speaker 3: producers like tell people to say, but it's like, if
Speaker 3: you're forced to face that conflict, that is compelling stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and if you're not forced to face it, then I mean,
Speaker 3: what do we watching.
Speaker 2: The way that I always describe Bachelor, especially Bachelor in Paradise,
Speaker 2: is that it's very much hunger games. Ask like you
Speaker 2: are you have your free will in the arena, but
Speaker 2: like there are people on the outside of the arena like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're sending jaguars exactly, sending.
Speaker 2: Things in Yeah, okay, well you know what, You're gonna
Speaker 2: be so jealous of that. I just want to like
Speaker 2: touch on you. They had this big ad integration for
Speaker 2: I know what you did last summer?
Speaker 3: I saw that do it and jessin Palmer do something together.
Speaker 2: Oh no, this is like was like integrated into Paradise.
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, like in the mirror. And then like
Speaker 2: he went up to Welles and he was like, what
Speaker 2: did I do last summer? And then like he was
Speaker 2: like we weren't here.
Speaker 3: Did somebody say, what are you waiting?
Speaker 2: For No, I have to watch the original again before.
Speaker 2: I haven't. I've only seen it once and it was
Speaker 2: your nineties Ryan Philippi face yeah, great face, great face,
Speaker 2: great face, great face, and great face.
Speaker 3: Philipp is the man I know he did last summer
Speaker 3: cruel intentions. I wanted to name one of our sons Sebastian,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: And I hate the name of Sebastian.
Speaker 3: Love the name Sebastian.
Speaker 2: You only love it the because of his role.
Speaker 3: Why do you love Dawson? No, I love the.
Speaker 2: Sound of Dawson.
Speaker 3: I love the sound of Sebastian.
Speaker 2: Yeah you do. I know only the sound of Sebastian.
Speaker 2: I think of the crab. That's like, you wouldn't let
Speaker 2: me name it. Well you didn't. You thought Dominic the donkey,
Speaker 2: and I think a Sebash and the crab. Okay, So
Speaker 2: did you hear about the money being involved. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: don't really know the money thing yet. There was teas
Speaker 2: at the end of episode one, but it hasn't been
Speaker 2: directly brought up again yet. So my thoughts is that
Speaker 2: it won't be brought up again until the end when
Speaker 2: it's time, you know, how like the week where it's
Speaker 2: like you either break up or you get engaged. I
Speaker 2: think now it's going to be you either break up,
Speaker 2: get engaged, or get half a million dollars. And we
Speaker 2: were joking and this is maybe like forget half million
Speaker 2: dollars if you break up. Yeah, I think that you
Speaker 2: have to. Yeah, I think you money. That's just with
Speaker 2: the speculation, Jared. It's the speculation.
Speaker 3: Use money every day and then you leave and then
Speaker 3: you get to the person like, hey, let's go out
Speaker 3: to a really nice dinner, dude.
Speaker 2: That's what I said. That's why this isn't even gonna
Speaker 2: make any sense. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. So
Speaker 2: maybe it won't turn out to be that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just I don't like. My gut
Speaker 3: reaction is I don't like the introduction of any type
Speaker 3: of financial prize in this show.
Speaker 2: It could be a big tease. There's so many false cheeses.
Speaker 2: There was like in my season of Bachelor, there was
Speaker 2: a pregnancy test that was in the cheezer that never
Speaker 2: got address.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's different than alluding to some sort of
Speaker 3: cash prize at the end of this. Yeah, it would
Speaker 3: be weird if they introduce that and never do anything
Speaker 3: with it. I'd be it would be weird. So I'm
Speaker 3: assuming money plays a role at some point. Maybe it
Speaker 3: has something to do with the Goldens, not the we
Speaker 3: that could be, not the younger cast, but that would
Speaker 3: make more Yeah, give them the money. Yeah that kind
Speaker 3: of I like that. Give them the money.
Speaker 2: Hmm. All right, they passed.
Speaker 3: Down to the grand kids.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. All right, well let's get into Bachelor
Speaker 2: Nation headlines. Sam McKinley and Allie Joe, who we both
Speaker 2: have seen already get eliminated from Bachelor in Paradise this season,
Speaker 2: are sparking romance rumors. During the time on the show,
Speaker 2: Sam went on a date with Jess we know it
Speaker 2: didn't work out, and Ali was like kind of talking
Speaker 2: to dyl and Jonathan and both Sam and Ali both
Speaker 2: went home. But this week Sam posted a story where
Speaker 2: you can see a woman's hand holding up a drink
Speaker 2: and showing off her bright red manicure. That manicure matches
Speaker 2: Allie Joe's and her instagram's story, in which she captioned
Speaker 2: keeping the main thing the main thing, which Sam is
Speaker 2: famous for saying on gen season, and to add fuel
Speaker 2: to these soft launch rumors before going on Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 2: Sam told Joe and Serena on Happy Hour the podcast
Speaker 2: that he wanted to see Ali Joe there, I would say,
Speaker 2: this is a thing.
Speaker 3: You know what all I can think about while you're
Speaker 3: reading the entire story, it's I I gotta get off
Speaker 3: social media. I got I gotta stay. I gotta spend
Speaker 3: more less time on this thing. Like I can't what
Speaker 3: are we even talking about? What is this?
Speaker 2: This makes perfect sense to me.
Speaker 3: Great, And obviously I'm coming on it from a different,
Speaker 3: whole different angle, and you are right. I am wrong.
Speaker 3: I am on the almost famous podcast, like.
Speaker 2: I think this is a this is a couple in
Speaker 2: the making.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, cool. Yeah, But it was just like one
Speaker 3: of those things like I was reading it or you
Speaker 3: were reading it. I was listening, and like you see
Speaker 3: a hand and then there's a real thing and then
Speaker 3: keep the main thing.
Speaker 2: We're doing online.
Speaker 3: I was like, what are we doing? What? What not?
Speaker 3: What are we doing? What am I doing? What am
Speaker 3: I doing? Anyway? Congratulations to the new company.
Speaker 2: Yes, get off social media and start watching more TV
Speaker 2: shows with me, please? All right, So Alex Cooper's new
Speaker 2: show Love Overboard has announced its host. We were speculating
Speaker 2: this last week because we saw Gabby Windley's whereabouts on
Speaker 2: social media and it was announced this week that she
Speaker 2: will be the host of Hulu's new dating show, produced
Speaker 2: by Alex Cooper's Unwell Productions. Love over Board is going
Speaker 2: to debut on Hulu in twenty twenty six and Disney
Speaker 2: Plus internationally. We have some friends working on the show
Speaker 2: as part of this family, and it makes sense to
Speaker 2: us as to why Gabby might have been picked to
Speaker 2: be the host of this show because one the people
Speaker 2: that we know producing this show have ties to Gabby
Speaker 2: because aka, she was the Bachelorette and then also her
Speaker 2: season on The Traders definitely like gave her a burst, Yeah,
Speaker 2: big boost, big boost. And she's good with gameplay. We
Speaker 2: know that, and so if this dating show has anything
Speaker 2: to do with well love and gameplay, she is a
Speaker 2: good choice. In the show, we're gonna see singles chase
Speaker 2: a possible love partner while sailing aboard a luxury yacht.
Speaker 2: The show synopsis says this, As the journey unfolds, romance ignites,
Speaker 2: alliance's form and hearts are shattered. In the end, only
Speaker 2: one couple will reign supreme. Who will rise to the
Speaker 2: top and he'll be left stranded. I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 2: It makes total sense for Gabby to be hosting it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: combination of love and traders.
Speaker 3: Obviously, I just go back to what is close to
Speaker 3: us and it just, yeah, it makes me. I hope
Speaker 3: I'm in the minority with this Paradise season. Granted I
Speaker 3: haven't watched a lot of it, but I hope that
Speaker 3: people are liking it a lot more.
Speaker 2: What does this have to do with anything, because.
Speaker 3: It just feels like, here we go another dating show,
Speaker 3: Gabby's the host. It's by Alex Cooper, like streaming on Hulu. Like,
Speaker 3: you know, obviously there's only so much attention span for
Speaker 3: people out there, so it's like if there is a
Speaker 3: big supply within this dating reality show market, it's like,
Speaker 3: oh man, they're adding another show and it asks Gabby
Speaker 3: as the lead, and like we know certain people producing it,
Speaker 3: and like obviously we're going to support it because we
Speaker 3: know the people that are working on it, which is wonderful.
Speaker 3: But it's like, you know, I just hope that Paradise
Speaker 3: is keeping up. So anyway, that's my thoughts, because this
Speaker 3: show is going to crush it. I mean it's Alex
Speaker 3: Cooper just like anything this woman touches is killing it.
Speaker 3: Gabby's just huge right now, we know some of the
Speaker 3: people working on it, and there's extremely talented a dating
Speaker 3: show on a boat, and then also what Bachelors are.
Speaker 3: But what Bachelor had going or for so long and
Speaker 3: still does is the engagement. Yeah, like they have the
Speaker 3: rights own. I think they're the only show that it
Speaker 3: can end in engagement, really, I think so. I think
Speaker 3: that's why no other show ends in an engagement. Wow,
Speaker 3: So I think Bachelor is the only one that can
Speaker 3: do that, which really separates it from other dating shows.
Speaker 3: Having said that, because there's so many engagements that just
Speaker 3: end literally months after the show, the engagement doesn't have
Speaker 3: the weight that I used to. So it's kind of like,
Speaker 3: is there a difference between people leaving together on a
Speaker 3: different show or being engaged on Paradise? I don't really see.
Speaker 2: It, especially since so many married couples from Paradise did
Speaker 2: not get engaged on the show.
Speaker 3: Uh, who else in Paradise you meet?
Speaker 2: You meet Adam Raven, Kevin and Astrod.
Speaker 3: Adam Raven didn't get No, wasn't it like on the
Speaker 3: post show the after show. No, No, Yeah, who else
Speaker 3: Kevin and Astrod, Yeah, they didn't get engaged, and so I.
Speaker 2: Think that I might be missing I might be missing one.
Speaker 3: Tannor and Jay got engaged.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know, there's a lot that did get engaged.
Speaker 3: But oh Becca, Becca, oh Koofer, yeah, oh Thomas Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's four of like the eight didn't even get
Speaker 2: engaged in the show. Actually had like sometimes fake breakups.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean we got engaged in the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not be too specific. It's just the stakes
Speaker 2: that they put on make.
Speaker 3: It too you know, get a lot of pressure. Yeah, pressure, Okay.
Speaker 2: Moving on Lettia gar You know, as we know from
Speaker 2: Grant season, she sparked engagement rumors throughout the past week
Speaker 2: or so. She was celebrating a bachelorette party. There were
Speaker 2: things that were like headlines with her saying she was
Speaker 2: headed down the aisle. This past weekend, she in bachelornation BFFs.
Speaker 2: They were united in Utah, and the gathering like had
Speaker 2: put fans into just like a tizzy because they were
Speaker 2: saying that they were celebrating Lattia's bachelorette party and we're
Speaker 2: all finking, how did this girl get engaged so fast.
Speaker 2: She met a guy and got engagees fast. We were
Speaker 2: all excited for the hard launch for the with the
Speaker 2: Fiance Fiance. There was a sign that said, welcome to
Speaker 2: Latia's Bachelorette. And guess what it was all the lead
Speaker 2: up for a brand deal with this this thing called
Speaker 2: it's like a frozen like a popsicle. It's called true
Speaker 2: Frew which you gotta get it. You gotta get an
Speaker 2: ad with them. Jared's the biggest popsicle guy. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: so the brand deal, it was walking down the freezer aisle.
Speaker 2: Huh you want to see it?
Speaker 3: No, here she is, Yes, she looks great.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, oh that's funny.
Speaker 3: She goes cool now, yes, why is that? Was that
Speaker 3: her thing? Come on now?
Speaker 2: Just like so literally she was the front ridder of
Speaker 2: the This is so funny that Jared doesn't know what
Speaker 2: he's I mean, I know who she is clearly, No,
Speaker 2: I know you do, but like you don't know the
Speaker 2: come on now. So she was the front under the
Speaker 2: entire time. It was so clear that like this feelings
Speaker 2: seemed deeper for her. And then when he was breaking
Speaker 2: up with her, she was like, come on now, come
Speaker 2: on now, come on, she was just hilarious. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a really good ad.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 2: Now the question is how far would we go for
Speaker 2: a brand deal?
Speaker 3: I mean, what are you guys offering.
Speaker 2: We would? Well, this is fun. This is not like
Speaker 2: I would of course do this as a single girl.
Speaker 2: That's so cute. That's a funny idea. Yeah, there's no
Speaker 2: shame in this game, No, no.
Speaker 3: Shame at all. I remember I saw somebody I know
Speaker 3: post like give to Hannah Anne her pregnancy announcement, the
Speaker 3: gender or something. She clearly had like product placement in it.
Speaker 2: Really we have the same age.
Speaker 3: And then somebody I know on Facebook, like one of
Speaker 3: my mom's friends, like screenshot it and circled him and
Speaker 3: was like, oh how disgusting And it's like yeah what
Speaker 3: good guy? Like good god? Yeah, no, no, no, trust me.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that if you were not offered Bunny to
Speaker 3: post a picture like that, you guys never would obviously.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, anyway, what if I guess.
Speaker 2: The fun question here is would we fake a divorce
Speaker 2: for a week? You know, trible in paradise headlines? Will
Speaker 2: we do that in order to get a for a
Speaker 2: brand deal? That you would have to be breaking glass
Speaker 2: or whatever the heck, breaking the hell knows. I'm just
Speaker 2: thinking of.
Speaker 3: If Benny Brand has ideas for that, just reach out
Speaker 3: to us and will decide that will we'll make the
Speaker 3: decision the right how much money you willing to offer?
Speaker 3: There's a price for everything.
Speaker 2: Jared initially was going to say, like no, because you
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to like freak the kids out, but the
Speaker 2: kids wouldn't know, but you wouldn't want the kids to
Speaker 2: like research us at some point and then like all
Speaker 2: leading to a brand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as it was in h and tongue
Speaker 3: in cheek, you know, I think, because you know, we
Speaker 3: could talk to Dawson and Hayden later, like listen, guys,
Speaker 3: it was it was a joke.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you get to go to college. It's
Speaker 2: always the you get to go to college line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we both I think Ashley and I both
Speaker 3: have sense of humors, more so me, but like a
Speaker 3: little bit of a dark sense of humor where it's
Speaker 3: like we can joke about those things. And I do
Speaker 3: think Dawson and Hayden Walls have a very similar sense
Speaker 3: of humor because I can already sense, I can already
Speaker 3: see Dawson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can.
Speaker 3: He's definitely a ballbuster.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He already like looks at us with like a
Speaker 2: side I know, and he's like.
Speaker 3: I know that if we were all in the joke together,
Speaker 3: it would be fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Well the final headline, Becca Tilly and
Speaker 2: Hailey Kyoko get engaged in Spain after they've been together
Speaker 2: for seven years. They started dating like the same season
Speaker 2: that you and I started dating. It was spring two
Speaker 2: thousand and eighteen.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, well, first of all, yeah.
Speaker 2: Congrarettulately congratulations. We're so happy for them. That ring is
Speaker 2: gorgeous that I literally have. When we were at Tanya's wedding, yep,
Speaker 2: I was like stressed by how like obsessed they are
Speaker 2: with each other still like seven years in Like don't
Speaker 2: you think that they like literally look at each other
Speaker 2: the stars in their eyes. Still, I still look at
Speaker 2: you like.
Speaker 3: That, you know, not in a bad way, But they
Speaker 3: come off as a very like of course they're madly
Speaker 3: in life.
Speaker 2: There are you kidding me? They're like obsessed with each other.
Speaker 2: They like can't like let each other's hands go.
Speaker 3: I could see I could see them like kind of
Speaker 3: busting each other balls a little bit like couples do
Speaker 3: when they're like dating five or six years, and you know,
Speaker 3: sure like Hailey rolls her eyes, you know, like something
Speaker 3: Becka does. But that's adorable, obviously, that's the whole purposeful
Speaker 3: of changes love of alls as time goes on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Hailey's the best. I got to know Haley a lot
Speaker 3: better at Dean and Kaylen's wedding and we really bonded.
Speaker 3: I mean I was always friendly with her, but yeah,
Speaker 3: she's wonderful, just wonderful. And Becca is uh, yeah, Becca's
Speaker 3: just so down to earth. She really is a grounded person,
Speaker 3: as you would say.
Speaker 2: They're both just so special. Yeah, wonderful, they're wonderful energies
Speaker 2: and lights. And I know that our producer Easton was
Speaker 2: us already talked to the two of them on their
Speaker 2: podcast Scrubbing In. So, Easton, is there anything you can
Speaker 2: add from your episode that we wouldn't know from all
Speaker 2: the headlines?
Speaker 4: The two things that stuck out to me most. It's
Speaker 4: such a beautiful story, but I'm trying to get through
Speaker 4: that crying. I got really emotional of them there sayings.
Speaker 4: But we asked, becha, like what did Haley say when
Speaker 4: she popped the question, and she said that. Haley got
Speaker 4: down one knee and said, I will always protect you
Speaker 4: and I will always keep you safe. And just thinking
Speaker 4: about everything that Beca's been through, with her being who
Speaker 4: she is and coming from the world she's from, hearing
Speaker 4: those words were really powerful to me. And then the
Speaker 4: other thing I really really appreciated was that they didn't
Speaker 4: notice at the time, but Hailey proposed on a nude beach,
Speaker 4: so they're surrounded by just swinging penises. Yeah, they got
Speaker 4: when she dropped Awndy, which I just if you haven't
Speaker 4: seen the photos on their Instagram, it's they're so lovely,
Speaker 4: but like just out of frames's just like a bunch
Speaker 4: of naked people.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. There's so much emotion in the engagement pictures.
Speaker 3: I think there's something very poetic about Haley and Becca
Speaker 3: getting engaged while being surrounded by swinging penises. You know,
Speaker 3: it's almost the perfect scenario that does.
Speaker 2: Make some sort of poetic sense.
Speaker 4: Yes, it really is. We're so happy for them and
Speaker 4: I'm so excited for the future.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what about the fact that Becca has to
Speaker 2: now propose to Haley at some point, because that was
Speaker 2: like kind of their deal. Right, that is.
Speaker 4: Their deal's coming. And I keep saying, how funny will
Speaker 4: it be if Haley says no, that's an option.
Speaker 2: Well, we're so happy for them, and so is Becca's
Speaker 2: best friend, Jojo Fletcher. She actually flew like twelve hours.
Speaker 2: She said, she flew thirteen hours across country to surprise
Speaker 2: her and they were only there for twelve hours until
Speaker 2: they had to turn back around. But she's so happy
Speaker 2: that they were got to celebrate at their little intimate
Speaker 2: engagement dinner, just another special thing that Haley put together
Speaker 2: for Becca. Surprised her with all of her best friends.
Speaker 2: Once they came back from Spain. All right, well, Jared,
Speaker 2: now it's time for our headline. It's not that you guys,
Speaker 2: it's not that headlining. There was one headline. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's cool. So we are producing an indie TV pilot.
Speaker 2: It's called Two Romantics, so it's like a rom com.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let Jared talk about it because he is,
Speaker 2: you know, his goal in life would be to be
Speaker 2: some of producer director, and this is like his first
Speaker 2: step into that world.
Speaker 3: So this production company called Madhouse Films reached out to
Speaker 3: Ashley and I and they were producing a TV pilot,
Speaker 3: a short film directed by this girl, Italia light Rake,
Speaker 3: who had done work with Ashley before, which is why
Speaker 3: they reached out. And they were looking for executive producers
Speaker 3: to help finance the film, and so they sent me
Speaker 3: the script. They sent me a pitch deck of what
Speaker 3: the show would be about, how they would pitch networks,
Speaker 3: what overall vibe was going to be. I got to
Speaker 3: zoom with the owners of Mad House Films and Talia
Speaker 3: as well, and I really fell in love with the script.
Speaker 3: It's the story of a micro influencer named Sam who
Speaker 3: has like little less one hundred thousand followers and then
Speaker 3: she gets kind of like a little bit of a
Speaker 3: big break. She's trying to be a musician, where this
Speaker 3: influencer named Mac who's kind of like this, you know,
Speaker 3: douchebag early twenties influencer trying to be a musician as
Speaker 3: well now like make real music, ends up seeing a
Speaker 3: video of her, he asked to work with her. They collaborate.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like a will they won't they, But
Speaker 3: there's definitely a little bit of a dark side to it.
Speaker 3: And I really enjoyed the script. I thought it was
Speaker 3: very smart. I thought, I think it's a good commentary
Speaker 3: on today's I think it's good commentary on today's influencer
Speaker 3: world and also public relationships. So I'm excited about it.
Speaker 3: We got to go to set they filmed in New York,
Speaker 3: got to be on set. I'm at a cameo, got
Speaker 3: to meet the entire cast and crew. We were there
Speaker 3: for the whole day. I think Talia is an incredibly
Speaker 3: talented director with a great eye, and I really enjoy
Speaker 3: working with Madhouse. They are up and coming. They actually
Speaker 3: just got their first feature film to release on Shutter,
Speaker 3: which is a streaming service. It's a horror movie. It
Speaker 3: starts as Lily Reanhrt and a couple other very known actresses,
Speaker 3: so that's very exciting for them. So Ashley and I
Speaker 3: feel very excited about working with Madhouse on this. I
Speaker 3: think they're a great company with a bright fewure. I
Speaker 3: think Talia is very talented with the great eyesh I
Speaker 3: think the movie's gonna look great, or the film the
Speaker 3: TV pilot, so we'll see. Hopefully we against some film
Speaker 3: festivals next year, and hopefully there'll be an opportunity for
Speaker 3: streaming service to because she's So what's happening is she
Speaker 3: Talia wrote this TV pilot filmed, we're gonna send it
Speaker 3: to film festivals, and then she's also writing a full
Speaker 3: season one of Too Romantic as we speak. So the
Speaker 3: idea is to show off, uh, this short film. Hopefully
Speaker 3: it gets a little buzz, and then we can go
Speaker 3: in front of streaming networks Netflix, hulus On and so
Speaker 3: forth and say, hey, listen, you know this is what
Speaker 3: we're looking for season one. This is the beginning, middle,
Speaker 3: and end. Are you guys interested in in, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: having this on your platform?
Speaker 2: So yeah, soo right now, we don't have a huge,
Speaker 2: like day to day role in it. It's really just
Speaker 2: word like just fine.
Speaker 3: It's not like they're they're not sending me the dailies
Speaker 3: or anything.
Speaker 2: And yeah, Jared to make a little cameo and he's
Speaker 2: very good at acting. And I just got to like
Speaker 2: sit in the producer room for the afternoon and watch
Speaker 2: them film a few scenes and it was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2: So and of course, like I like it because it's
Speaker 2: a romance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of fits right into what Ashley and
Speaker 3: I do, influencing and then also just this public relationship.
Speaker 2: Aspect, which is why they came to us because it
Speaker 2: made sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 2: But very exciting, very exciting, all right, guys, Well that
Speaker 2: was fun. I always loved doing an episode with Jared
Speaker 2: every here and there. I love you and until next time,
Speaker 2: I've been Ashley.
Speaker 3: I love you too, and I've been Jared.
Speaker 2: Bye.
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