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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Showdown at the Border continues. Welcome back to play in

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Speaker 2: Buck our two underway now, and we know that the

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Speaker 2: numbers are absolutely bonkers. You're talking about over ten thousand

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Speaker 2: a day now in parts of the US Mexico border

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Speaker 2: coming across Texas doing something about it. And I think

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Speaker 2: one thing you may see is if Texas continues in

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Speaker 2: this way, there may well be other states that start

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Speaker 2: to see, notably Arizona, start to see more of a

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Speaker 2: surge across their border. I think that's very possible, maybe

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Speaker 2: in southern California as well. But in the meantime, we're

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Speaker 2: looking at what Texas is going to do about this.

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Speaker 2: About the Supreme Court decision that merely says it's very

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Speaker 2: important that we speak with clarity on this. It just

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Speaker 2: says that the federal governments allowed to remove the razor wire.

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Speaker 2: If they say the razor wire is in the way, now,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy that they say it's in the way because

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Speaker 2: it's helping them do their job. But federal government, and

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Speaker 2: let's be clear, I believe Border Patrol also put out

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Speaker 2: a statement over the weekend that they will not arrest

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Speaker 2: any members of you know, Texas law enforcement who are

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Speaker 2: putting razor wire down. So they're like, we're not getting

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Speaker 2: in the middle of this. We refuse to go to

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Speaker 2: that next level of a federal state law enforcement showdown.

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Speaker 2: So I think cooler heads are prevailing on that, which

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Speaker 2: I thought given that border patrol is about thirty percent

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Speaker 2: US military veterans. People don't generally know that, but a

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Speaker 2: lot of vets in border patrol. That's not surprising to me.

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Speaker 2: Texas is going to continue with the razor wire, continue

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Speaker 2: to put it down. It has not been told that

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Speaker 2: it cannot do this, so it is not breaking any laws.

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Speaker 2: It is not find a Supreme Court decision. All the

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Speaker 2: decisions had to do with was can the federal government

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Speaker 2: remove what Texas puts down? Well, yes they can. Apparently

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Speaker 2: how much time and resources do they want to spend

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Speaker 2: in that effort. Well, there's also this talk about the

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Speaker 2: deal and Langford, Senator Langford of Oklahoma has been involved

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Speaker 2: in this on the Republican side. On the Democrat side,

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Speaker 2: Senator Tim Kaine was on one of those Sunday shows

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Speaker 2: which still exists, kind of amazing setting the political agenda

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Speaker 2: for the week, sure saying that this is a painful

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Speaker 2: bipartisan compromise. Play eight.

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Speaker 3: Look, this is a painful compromise. This is a tough bill.

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Speaker 3: I wish it were an immigration reform bill and not

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Speaker 3: just a border security bill. But the fentanyl issue is

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Speaker 3: a crisis. Yes, I wish this was a comprehensive immigration

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Speaker 3: reform bill, not just a border security bill. We got

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Speaker 3: to dig into the details, but we've got to find

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Speaker 3: a compromise. And as was pointed out, this compromise is

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Speaker 3: also key to opening up the security funding that we

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Speaker 3: need for Ukraine, humanitarian assistance in Gaza, defense support for Israel.

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Speaker 3: All that is hinging upon getting this deal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Clay, the bill is unnecessary in its entirety. This

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Speaker 2: is this is I think what the single most important

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Speaker 2: thing that everybody should take away about what's going on

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Speaker 2: right now at the US Mexico border is that this

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Speaker 2: is entirely the result of Biden decisions. And Biden could

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Speaker 2: basically shut it all down tomorrow if he wanted to.

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Speaker 2: We have our friend Ryan Gurdusky joining us tomorrow to

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Speaker 2: talk about the polls in the primary. But you know

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Speaker 2: he's sharing this, Clay, just so he's getting helping him

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Speaker 2: get the word out. Federal Code eight USC eleven eighty two.

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Speaker 2: F Okay, this is in the Federal code right now.

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Speaker 2: This is federal law. A president can already impose restrictions

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Speaker 2: or outright suspendy into the US of aliens when they

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Speaker 2: determined that entry would be detrimental to the country's interests

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Speaker 2: for periods as they shall deem necessary. Clay Biden has

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Speaker 2: the right and as an executive branch power to just

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Speaker 2: say sorry, we're full right now. You can't keep coming

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Speaker 2: over and just have people removed and deported straight away.

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Speaker 2: He can do that. That is the law right now.

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Speaker 2: So all this talk about, oh, we need a law

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Speaker 2: to figure out the No, the problem here is not

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Speaker 2: the lack of law. The problem is the lawlessness that

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Speaker 1: So they're going to try to argue that Republicans are

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Speaker 2: At the border.

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Speaker 1: That's what you need to understand about where this is headed.

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Speaker 1: And I thought Stephen Miller really succinctly summed it up

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Speaker 1: for us. Was he on Friday, Thursday, whatever he was

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Speaker 1: on last week? Who would be Biden's Is he would

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Speaker 1: be Donald Trump's borders are I believe if Trump ends

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Speaker 1: up winning the election in twenty twenty four, and Steven

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Speaker 1: All Joe Biden would have to do to fix the

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Speaker 1: border is just reinstitute all of the policies that Donald

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Speaker 1: If you remember when Joe Biden got sworn in, and

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Speaker 1: the executive orders. On the very first day that he

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Speaker 1: Trump and basically let it be known that the southern

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Speaker 1: And but here, so first of all, let me say

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Speaker 1: this too. People out there who are interested in protecting

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Speaker 1: members of the military National Guard, in no way of

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Speaker 1: a field with either be very careful about the choices

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Speaker 1: Feds everywhere trying to catch people who were showing up

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Speaker 1: want to make it such that if you are a

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Speaker 1: Be very careful about what text messages you're sending the

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Speaker 1: guy who is the most aggressive in your group about

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Speaker 1: the need to protect America. It would not stun me

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Speaker 1: at all if that is a federal agent looking to

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Speaker 1: try to catch you and trap you and make it

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Speaker 1: look like America's chief adversaries and enemies are inside of

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Speaker 1: the country. Second part on this, buck and this is

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Speaker 1: the gamble that I think the Biden administration has made,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that I'm wrong on this. It's almost

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Speaker 1: impossible to deport millions of people, and so what the

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Speaker 1: going to flood this country with ten million illegals during

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Speaker 1: our four years, and we'll make it twenty million illegals

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Speaker 1: if we win reelection and we get into a second term,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be impossible to ever get those

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually not impossible, though, right, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: just said, look, we've got too many illegal Mexicans who

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Speaker 2: three million of them. Well, that would be phenomenal, that's

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Speaker 2: with I mean, and let me know, far fewer illegals

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Speaker 2: of his administration. He was in Las Vegas on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: and this is clay right now. This is the first

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Speaker 2: thing that he's saying He's going to do. The first

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Speaker 4: We have no choice. Within moments of my inauguration, we

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Speaker 4: to all, we have no choice because this is not sustainable.

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Speaker 4: It's no under Joe Biden and his thugs are so

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Speaker 4: desperate to stop us. They know that we are the

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Speaker 2: They know that now he would have the power as

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Speaker 2: president to do this. This is not a matter of

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Speaker 2: congressional action. These individuals are in the country in violation

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Speaker 2: but in general, illegals are here in violation of federal

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Speaker 2: immigration law. The whole notion of asylum seeking too, I

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Speaker 2: a regulatory matter, not as a legislative matter. That that

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Speaker 2: can be changed. They can say, look, sorry, we're making

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Speaker 2: it a higher standard. Asylum is a nice thing that

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Speaker 2: we do for the rest of the world. As Americans.

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Speaker 2: We set the standards of what that should be, and

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Speaker 2: the federal government can just say, look, we got too

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Speaker 2: many people who are lying about this. You have to

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Speaker 2: can't just say I have a credible fear. That would

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Speaker 2: change the game too, Clay. So if Trump follows through

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Speaker 2: on this, it is a very different immigration situation than

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Speaker 1: So the incentive structure has changed because what is being

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Speaker 1: Because I believe we have had over one hundred different

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Speaker 1: on if somebody crossed from Mexico. You mentioned the nineteen

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Speaker 1: fifties with Eisenhower. Historically immigration patterns were people from Mexico

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Speaker 1: really kind of their roots in Mexico. Well, that's somewhat

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Speaker 1: you're from far down into Latin America. The idea that

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Speaker 1: longer viable. And so what's going on here is we're

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Speaker 2: They're breaking laws, they're scamming our system, they're taking advantage

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Speaker 2: from Pakistan, all right, and you try to just do

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Speaker 2: this thing where you show up at the US Mexico border,

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Speaker 2: and there are people who come from Pakistan. Just to

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Speaker 2: one hundred countries have come across our southern border since

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Speaker 2: over one hundred sixty at this point. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's just crazy. Yeah, So every third world country

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Speaker 2: Do it today. Let's take a call here from Jerome

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Speaker 5: Yes, Hi, good afternoon, Thank you. What I wanted to

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is a Jerome. This is a very important

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Speaker 1: flying to Latin America or Mexico, and they're walking right

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Speaker 1: into our country. So, I mean, this is kind of

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Speaker 1: crazy to think about. It's easier for an African illegal

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Speaker 1: immigrant to get in the United States, which should be

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Speaker 1: wildly difficult just based on raw geography, than it is

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Speaker 1: to actually get into Europe.

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Speaker 2: You know, you also have to start looking at what

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Speaker 2: does it mean to have sovereignty and what does it

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Speaker 2: mean to have rule of law? You know, why is

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Speaker 2: it that we don't have Canadians voting in our elections.

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Speaker 2: Canadians speak the same language, they live right next door

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Speaker 2: to us, a lot of you know, you can't even

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Speaker 2: tell some Canadians you think they're Midwesterners. You know, they're

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Speaker 2: just as nice, just as polite, right, so you can't

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Speaker 2: tell the difference. And yet Hawaii, which is in the

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Speaker 2: middle of the Pacific Ocean, a totally separate land mass,

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Speaker 2: one of the most isolated island chains in the world,

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Speaker 2: those are Americans. Why is that? It's because it's American soil.

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Speaker 2: Because we have nation states that make these determinations, that

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Speaker 2: draw boundaries on a map and say we control what

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Speaker 2: goes on on this soil. The moment that all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, anyone can show up and anyone can be

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Speaker 2: a part of this, and there's no by your leave necessary,

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Speaker 2: it's just I want to be here. I'm here. You

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Speaker 2: start to ask, well, how long do we really have

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Speaker 2: a country? How long do we have a cultural unit?

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Speaker 2: How long do we have linguistic ties, historical ties, a

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Speaker 2: shared heritage, a shared love of the way that we

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Speaker 2: do things here versus the way that we do things

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Speaker 2: somewhere else. I mean, I always point out in the

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Speaker 2: European context, Clay, it can feel even more obvious. You know,

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Speaker 2: you look at a country like the Netherlands. It's not

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Speaker 2: a very big country, right, It's not very big geographically,

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Speaker 2: it's not very big population wise. You let in a

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Speaker 2: million people from a very different culture. Very quickly, very suddenly,

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Speaker 2: you realize you're starting to be in a different political entity.

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Speaker 2: Now it's not the same country it was before you

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Speaker 2: let in five million people into a country of that size,

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Speaker 2: you're definitely in a different place, different laws, different and

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Speaker 2: you know, we could talk about those laws look like

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Speaker 2: and what the religious persuasion of some of the migrants

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Speaker 2: is versus what the people that are there. But this

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Speaker 2: is why you have so many governments in Europe that

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Speaker 2: are increasingly turning more right wing, more conservative, because the

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Speaker 2: people that live in these countries are saying, what's the point,

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Speaker 2: Like if you can just show off and you don't

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Speaker 2: have to learn the language, and you don't have to

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Speaker 2: feel like there's any affinity. You don't have to obey

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Speaker 2: our laws. Why am I here? Why would I give

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Speaker 2: my life for this place? Why do I pay taxes

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Speaker 2: to this place? Why can people show up at my

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Speaker 2: door and take away my freedom because I don't give

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Speaker 2: them the prescribed amount of taxation that they demand.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think there's lots of people looking around

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Speaker 1: the country. Let's use our listeners. In Southeast Michigan right now.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are looking around at

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Speaker 1: some of what is being said surrounding October seventh and

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Speaker 1: thinking to themselves, my goodness, how in the world are

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Speaker 1: we living in a state where there are huge portions

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Speaker 1: of Michigan now right dearborn, in particular, where large majorities

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Speaker 1: of Arab people living there don't believe that Israel should

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Speaker 1: exist and are using American political institutions as immigrants to

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Speaker 1: argue against, for instance.

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Speaker 2: Israel existing. It's just the culture of a place.

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Speaker 1: And we haven't even talked about the clip that has

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Speaker 1: gone super viral of elon Omar arguing that basically she

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Speaker 1: exists to do the bidding of small eland and defend

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Speaker 1: Muslim interest in the United States, above her responsibilities as

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Speaker 1: a United States citizen and I think there are lots

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Speaker 1: of people asking these questions, not only the United States,

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Speaker 1: but just about nationhood in general. And remember, Puck, you

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Speaker 1: can't become a citizen of China. There is no immigration

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Speaker 1: to China. There's no immigration to Japan. By and large,

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Speaker 1: there are many big group of seven nations. The United

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Speaker 1: States is actually the outlier in terms of its incredible

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Speaker 1: welcoming nature, in terms of its birthright citizenship perspectives. These

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Speaker 1: things don't exist in many of the other largest economies

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Speaker 1: in the world.

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Speaker 2: If immigration that is unrestricted doesn't put strain on the

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Speaker 2: load bearing walls of our republic, why do we have

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Speaker 2: immigration laws. There's no reason for them, right if there

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Speaker 2: was nothing that could go awry, if there were no

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Speaker 2: challenges that would come from just unrestricted, unrestrained, free flowing

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Speaker 2: immigration into this country. People say, oh, but what about

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Speaker 2: you know, what about the early eighteen hundreds. Those are pioneers.

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Speaker 2: There's no welfare state, folks. Okay, if you got here

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Speaker 2: on a creaking wooden ship and you didn't die of

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Speaker 2: scurvy or typhus or whatever it was, go out in

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Speaker 2: the woods with a hatchet. Nobody was putting you up

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Speaker 2: in a four star hotel in New York City and

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Speaker 2: saying we're gonna pay for your food and your health

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Speaker 2: care and your schooling, and you know, and you're gonna

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Speaker 2: be voting. Is so so the historical analogies people use

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Speaker 2: here are completely off. They don't even talk about how

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Speaker 2: a third of people that showed up at Ellis Island,

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Speaker 2: a third of people that made it into this country

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Speaker 2: legally self deported from America because it was so hard

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Speaker 2: to make a go of it here, because the immigrants

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Speaker 2: were in such challenging legal immigrants were in such challenging circumstance.

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Speaker 2: I've been to the Tenement Museum in the Lower East

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Speaker 2: Side of New York City. It's, man, it is sorry

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Speaker 2: you've ever been there, you see every show.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been there, but I've I've read the stories

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Speaker 1: about the life and the way that people lived in

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Speaker 1: that era is quite a lot different than what people do.

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Speaker 2: Irish living, you know, eight eight in a room, you know,

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Speaker 2: and Italian and Jews living eight in a room in

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Speaker 2: the Lower east Side, and you know, there'd be outbreaks

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Speaker 2: of communical disease, and I mentioned typhus and typhoid and

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Speaker 2: these other things, and they just be stacking bodies like

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Speaker 2: firewood in front of the building, and you know, that

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Speaker 2: was just the deal. They were immigrants. You know, there

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Speaker 2: was no there was no huge outcry about now it

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Speaker 2: was inhumane and awful, but I'm just saying, that's what

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Speaker 2: people were getting on ships to come here for. And

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Speaker 2: that's why when you're talking about what's going on now,

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Speaker 2: people are flying here on a plane, walking across the

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Speaker 2: border and saying, where's all my free stuff? And they're

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Speaker 2: getting all their free stuff.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, we're four percent of the world

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Speaker 1: population United States. If you're fortunate enough to be a

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Speaker 1: citizen of the United States, we are four percent of

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Speaker 1: the United States population. It's pretty wild to think about

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Speaker 1: the rate at which we are adding people illegally, and

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Speaker 1: and how many.

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Speaker 2: People just don't have any issue with that. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the US is a pretty I'm going to say US

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Speaker 2: is a pretty arrogant place when it comes to the

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Speaker 2: rule of law. And we're the only country I know

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Speaker 2: of that has true global taxation. You're an American citizen,

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Speaker 2: you live anywhere, you are subject to US federal income tax.

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Speaker 2: You're living in an island in the South Pacific, but

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Speaker 2: you have in a US passport, you are subject to

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Speaker 2: US tax law. You're subject to all US federal laws

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Speaker 2: while you're traveling abroad, no matter where you are. Very

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Speaker 2: few countries have anything like that. So they're gonna say,

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Speaker 2: you can live somewhere else and not be subject to

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Speaker 2: anything other than holding a US passport and we'll tax you.

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Speaker 2: But immigration law, we're not going to enforce that. So

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Speaker 2: people can live next door to you illegally and get

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Speaker 2: government benefits for free, and there's no problem. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: this is why it's the biggest issue in the country

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Speaker 2: right now. Let's take some calls. We come back. Eight

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Speaker 2: out three boxes of old videotapes and piles of photos

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Speaker 2: or the goal of determining who gets what. In a sense,

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Speaker 2: they were dipping up those family memories. One person suggested

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Speaker 1: Several of you want to ask a few questions out there.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and two to two A two. John Kirby,

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Speaker 1: speaking live says the US will respond after the murder,

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Speaker 1: the death the killing of three service members by Iranian

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Speaker 1: backed terror organizations, that the US will respond at a

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Speaker 1: time and place of its choosing, so not giving us

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Speaker 1: very much information there. Chris in Indianapolis, Indiana, what you

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Speaker 1: got for us.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you very much. I'm kind of the where

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Speaker 6: the rubber meets the road kind of guy. With the

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Speaker 6: cartels being in charge of of all these people coming

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Speaker 6: across the border. My question is, I wonder who here

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Speaker 6: is working with the cartels to allow us to happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for the call, Chris. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: working here to allow it to happen. The cartels bring

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Speaker 1: all of the people to the border. They typically have

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Speaker 1: color coordinated wristbands to ensure that they have evidence that

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Speaker 1: these people have paid and contextualizing for Chris, they are

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Speaker 1: the size of this business. The Mexican drug cartels. Illegal

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Speaker 1: shipping of humans into our country is more profitable for

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Speaker 1: them than the NFL is in terms of revenue that

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Speaker 1: is produced. That's staggering for anybody out there to think

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Speaker 1: about the size of this business for the cartels and

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Speaker 1: how much money they're making. It's a bigger business than

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Speaker 1: the NFL is in the United States. But in terms

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Speaker 1: of who's participating here, I mean, I don't think anybody's

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Speaker 1: necessarily getting directly paid off. I think just the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration is allowing all of these people to come. It's

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Speaker 1: creating a tremendous business opportunity for the cartels, and in

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Speaker 1: conjunction with their illegal transit of drugs, they're also illegally

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Speaker 1: transiting people. They're just taking out advantage of the opportunity

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Speaker 1: that's there. Yeah, when you look at the amount of

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Speaker 1: money that these cartels are making between their human smuggling

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Speaker 1: and drug smuggling operation, and then you wonder rule of

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Speaker 1: law in Mexico not particularly strong, you start to think

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Speaker 1: who's really in charge of that government everybody? And I

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Speaker 1: think about how brazen it is.

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Speaker 2: To be running mass international human smuggling operation the cartels

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Speaker 2: are doing. They're doing it in broad daylight. I've seen

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Speaker 2: I've seen them. I've seen the smugglers doing what they

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Speaker 2: do from the other side of the Rio Grande. And

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Speaker 2: guess what, they're not worried about it. They're not concerned.

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Speaker 2: They're not waiting for the federals to swoop in and

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Speaker 2: arrest them, and they don't care. So, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: not going to get better on the Mexican side of

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Speaker 2: the border anytime soon either, I can tell you that much.

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Speaker 2: They're just you know, hoping that they don't have an

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Speaker 2: all out cartel war in the meantime, but that's a

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Speaker 2: country where rule of law is unfortunately kind of a fiction.

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Speaker 2: Henry in California, what's up.

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Speaker 7: Sex, Thanks good pleasure to talk to you, guys, my

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Speaker 7: first time calling.

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Speaker 5: I have a question.

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Speaker 2: Thank you you guys.

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Speaker 8: Maybe you can help me with my question. I have

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Speaker 8: support Donald Trump.

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Speaker 7: I live in LA and I'm in the middle of

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Speaker 7: the train is of the war with all these leftis

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Speaker 7: of liberals. It's really hard, but I support Donald Trump

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Speaker 7: and his deportations strategy for his hopefully for his new administration.

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Speaker 7: It comes in on twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I got twenty seconds.

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Speaker 8: Wonder twenty yeah, right, I wonder if what are the

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Speaker 8: policies that could be implemented that obviously that are not

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Speaker 8: working now. I mean they could work, but what new

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Speaker 8: policies can.

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Speaker 2: Work to deportations lots of them and shutting down the war. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the Paul.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and the political ramifications of that,

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Speaker 1: as well as the latest on the terror attacks in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Next