WEBVTT - EP 31 – Jan 

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<v Speaker 1>That evening, one of the strangest things happened. I looked

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<v Speaker 1>in the mirror and I said out loud, He's not

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<v Speaker 1>coming home. And I thought, my god, am I being dramatic?

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<v Speaker 1>And I dismissed it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Betrayal, a show about

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<v Speaker 2>the people we trust the most and the deceptions that

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<v Speaker 2>we have coming up now. Onto this week's episode. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Jancanty's story. She grew up in Detroit in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifties and sixties. It was an era of social change,

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<v Speaker 2>a time when protests erupted across the country and people

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<v Speaker 2>demanded equality. It all informed the woman Jan became.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved growing up in Detroit. It was a very

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<v Speaker 1>historical time. I was very active in the women's movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Even as a teenager. I was in demonstrations. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make a difference and I did not want to

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<v Speaker 1>grow up and be a housewife and have kids. But

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<v Speaker 1>I lacked role models for how to do that because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that I knew that was a woman stayed home

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<v Speaker 1>and had kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Jan didn't know what possibilities were out there for her.

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<v Speaker 2>She loves learning, but she didn't love school.

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<v Speaker 1>Hated high school with a big passion. Hated it capital

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<v Speaker 1>h I thought it was a complete waste of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw it as babysitting. It turned me off

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<v Speaker 1>to school, and I said I was never going to

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<v Speaker 1>set foot in the classroom again.

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<v Speaker 2>If she could have dropped out of high school, she

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<v Speaker 2>would have, so college wasn't part of her plan. She

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even know how to apply.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just went from one crap job to another,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like any of them, got really bored. So I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of started out really floundering, not knowing what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking for a little direction, she gave school one last try.

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<v Speaker 2>She started taking classes at her local community college, and

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<v Speaker 2>sure enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it, so different than high school.

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<v Speaker 2>It was at community college that she took her first

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<v Speaker 2>psychology course. It was a turning point. Working in psychology

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<v Speaker 2>would mean helping others. Plus she found it interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing more basic than thought. They can take away

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<v Speaker 1>your family, your health, so on, but they can't take

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<v Speaker 1>away your thought. And that intrigued me. It still does.

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<v Speaker 2>As she began her studies, she was eager to start

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<v Speaker 2>a life on her own, so she moved downtown and

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<v Speaker 2>rented the cheapest place she could find.

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<v Speaker 1>My apartment cost me eighty dollars a month. It had rats,

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<v Speaker 1>It had about six locks on the door. It had

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<v Speaker 1>no kitchen. It was a hot plate, a bathroom, and

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<v Speaker 1>a bedroom. I remember putting my mattress on the floor

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<v Speaker 1>away from the window so the gunshots outside wouldn't bear

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<v Speaker 1>through the window because there was always gunfire at night.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was home to me, and it was proof

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<v Speaker 1>that I was on my way.

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<v Speaker 2>Still as cheap as it was, if she was going

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to live there. She needed a job. A

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<v Speaker 2>friend told her about a psychologist who was hiring. He

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<v Speaker 2>needed help typing up a manuscript. This was right up

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<v Speaker 2>Jan's alley, so she applied, and soon she got a

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<v Speaker 2>call asking for an interview. When she pulled up to

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<v Speaker 2>the office building.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed you had to pay for parking. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not have two dollars and fifty cents on me to pay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I thought, I'm going to have to ask for

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<v Speaker 1>a loan from my future employer.

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<v Speaker 2>She went inside and immediately felt like a fish out

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<v Speaker 2>of water.

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<v Speaker 1>It was staggering. It had marble and bronze and three

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<v Speaker 1>feet long chandeliers in the corridor, and arches and paintings

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<v Speaker 1>and you name it, very very very elegant. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I remember walking through the doors and instantly I felt

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<v Speaker 1>out of place. I'm like, I don't belong here. This

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<v Speaker 1>is fancy. I don't have any money, I'm a phony.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so nervous, and I had on my best clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>which I bought used and I remember watching people how

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<v Speaker 1>they got to the elevator and how they used the button,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would know how to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But as she got off the elevator, her nerves faded when.

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<v Speaker 1>I got off on floor eight. He must have heard

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<v Speaker 1>the elevator going. He stuck his head out, way way

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<v Speaker 1>down at the end of the hall. He said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down here.

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<v Speaker 2>The psychologist's name was Alan Canty. Jan had been expecting

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<v Speaker 2>a man who matched the building, someone intimidating, formal, classy.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan was anything but he.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a golf shirt on. His pants were too short

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<v Speaker 1>for his shoes. He was bashful, and he was very welcoming,

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<v Speaker 1>laughed easily.

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<v Speaker 2>The two of them hit it off. Twenty minutes into

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<v Speaker 2>the interview, Alan offered her the job, but before she left,

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<v Speaker 2>she had a favor to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>On my way out, I said, oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>can you deduct two dollars and fifty cents out of

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<v Speaker 1>my paycheck?

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<v Speaker 2>Jan explained that she wasn't able to pay the exit

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<v Speaker 2>fee for the parking lot. Alan just smiled.

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<v Speaker 1>He pulled out of his pocket a roll of cash

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<v Speaker 1>and peeled it off and seemed more than happy to

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<v Speaker 1>give it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>In the beginning, Jan and Allan's relationship was strictly professional.

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<v Speaker 2>After all, he was eighteen years older than her, well educated,

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<v Speaker 2>he came from a wealthy family to Jan Alan was

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<v Speaker 2>elite and accomplished. He was someone to look up to.

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<v Speaker 1>My impression of him was one of respect. Given his

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<v Speaker 1>station in life, I knew I could learn a lot

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<v Speaker 1>from him him in terms of the field of psychology.

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<v Speaker 2>Before long, he started treating her to lunch and.

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<v Speaker 1>I would talk about classes and what I was learning.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to give her advice to be a mentor.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the first person to ever express belief in

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<v Speaker 1>my goals, the idea that of course you can go

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<v Speaker 1>to college. Of course you can graduate. Of course you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that. I had never had anybody tell me

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<v Speaker 1>that in my life. It really made a big impression

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<v Speaker 1>on me, and I was so pleased that he saw

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<v Speaker 1>potential in me that nobody else acknowledged or validated.

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<v Speaker 2>He encouraged her to transfer to a four year university

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<v Speaker 2>and get her bachelor's degree, and he helped her pay

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<v Speaker 2>for college by promoting her to receptionist.

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<v Speaker 1>It gave me a raise, and I was so grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for that because I was really barely paying my own tuition,

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<v Speaker 1>and one term I had to sell my car to

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<v Speaker 1>make tuition. And I had started to walk to glass

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<v Speaker 1>in those neighborhoods, which was a challenge to get home

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<v Speaker 1>before dark.

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<v Speaker 2>In the winter, Alan started giving her rides home at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day. He liked looking out for her,

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<v Speaker 2>and she liked being cared for. After a few months,

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<v Speaker 2>Alan asked her out on a date. It didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>come as a surprise. Jan knew they had chemistry. For

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<v Speaker 2>their first date, Alan drove her somewhere she'd never been before.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like a Rundown neighborhood, and it looked dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>As Alan pulled up to a house, Jan thought for

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<v Speaker 2>a split second that she might have made a terrible mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>The windows were boarded up and the grass was overgrown.

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<v Speaker 1>The only sign was a little tiny yellow and green

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<v Speaker 1>sign that said lelli'es that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>But as they drove around back.

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<v Speaker 1>The aroma coming from the kit was beyond description, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had a man with a violin in the parking lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a fancy restaurant, one of the nicest she'd

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<v Speaker 2>ever been to, and it was hidden, almost like a speakeasy.

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<v Speaker 2>When they stepped inside, the place was decorated with real

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<v Speaker 2>oil paintings, chandeliers, candles, and even roaming musicians. Jan was wowed, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked and talked and talked until we realized we

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<v Speaker 1>were taking up too much time. Like the waiter was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, come on, I have a change over

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<v Speaker 1>in the table.

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<v Speaker 2>They were enjoying each other's company. Alan wasn't a standout

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<v Speaker 2>when it came to his looks or his charm. He

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<v Speaker 2>was shy, awkward even, but Jan thought a real connection

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<v Speaker 2>with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked how he treated me with respect, and he

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<v Speaker 1>always helped me with my coat and opened my car

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<v Speaker 1>door and never interrupted me, and was always eager to

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<v Speaker 1>hear about my day. And he'd ask follow up questions,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like what did you think of that class?

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<v Speaker 1>And what'd you think of that book? And tell me

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<v Speaker 1>more about your parents? Or why do you like that singer?

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<v Speaker 1>Or whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Their attraction was rooted in conversation. Jan had never had

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship like this before.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt very lucky because a lot of my friends

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<v Speaker 1>were floundering, you know. Their idea of a date would

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<v Speaker 1>be to go to McDonald's and ride up and down

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<v Speaker 1>Woodbert Avenue, and I was like, I'd rather go to

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<v Speaker 1>the museums. I'd rather have an intellectual discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>And with Alan, she could here was someone on her

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<v Speaker 2>level They were spending all day together at work and

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<v Speaker 2>then going on dates at night. Pretty soon Jan could

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<v Speaker 2>picture a real future with him. They'd been dating about

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<v Speaker 2>six months, and one morning over breakfast.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very bashful, and I decided, you know, he's never

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask me, so I better ask him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had a paper calendar in my pocket and I

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<v Speaker 1>pulled it out, put it on the table, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's about time that we get married. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think? And he goes, okay. And I took

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<v Speaker 1>my calendar out and it took a pen and I

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<v Speaker 1>stabbed a date. It was a year calendar, and it

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<v Speaker 1>landed on a Saturday in September, and I go, there's

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<v Speaker 1>their date.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't wait to be married just a year into dating.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a tiny, no frills ceremony.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time we got married, I was finishing my

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<v Speaker 1>bachelor's and he encouraged me to go for my master's degree.

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<v Speaker 2>When Jan doubted herself, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Gave me the confidence to go into my master's program.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the era too, women did not go to

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<v Speaker 1>graduate school at all.

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<v Speaker 2>In the early eighties, she started her master's in psychology

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<v Speaker 2>at the University of Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it so much I did not even want

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<v Speaker 1>to go home after class was over. I loved everything

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I loved the old, old libraries. Oh, it

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<v Speaker 1>was breathtaking.

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<v Speaker 2>During this time, Alan wanted to move into a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>home in a more affluent neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to have us have our own house together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I have nothing to bring to the table. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could put everything I had in my trunk.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly what she did. Jan packed up her pillow, clock, radio,

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<v Speaker 2>and a suitcase of clothes, and she moved in with

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<v Speaker 2>Alan and.

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<v Speaker 1>We moved into the sixth bedroom, six bathroom house.

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<v Speaker 2>The new home he'd bought for them was a Tudor

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<v Speaker 2>revival mansion and one of the most exclusive suburbs of Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a public building, it was so big.

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<v Speaker 2>When Jane agreed to move in with him, she only

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<v Speaker 2>asked for one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, what's important to me is if I can

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<v Speaker 1>take one of the bedrooms and turn it into a

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<v Speaker 1>dissertation room. He got me an electric typewriter with a

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<v Speaker 1>little exchange ball so he could change the fons, and

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<v Speaker 1>he got me there. He got me a bookshelf and

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<v Speaker 1>a lamp, and he bought me a coffee mug that

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<v Speaker 1>he found someplace where. On the inside, if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it down at the bottom, there's somebody looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they're mountain climbing up the side of the cup on

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<v Speaker 1>the inside. And he called it a struggle cup, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, when you get discouraged, look in your struggle

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<v Speaker 1>cup and remind yourself a day at a time, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it. You're going to finish. You have

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<v Speaker 1>what it dates.

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<v Speaker 2>In a little over a year, Alan helped transform Jan's life.

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<v Speaker 2>Before she'd met him, she was broke, living in a

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<v Speaker 2>Rundown apartment, searching for direction. Now she was on the

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<v Speaker 2>path towards becoming a psychologist, and she had a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>home in a wealthy neighborhood. At the time, she was grateful,

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<v Speaker 2>but looking back now she sees it all a little differently.

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<v Speaker 1>He liked rescuing damsels in distress, which I did not

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<v Speaker 1>understand at the time. That's his pattern.

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<v Speaker 2>Once they got married, Alan and Jan were both busier

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<v Speaker 2>than ever. He had a heavy caseload and would often

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<v Speaker 2>work late into the night at his practice. Meanwhile, Jan

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<v Speaker 2>was charging ahead with her master's in psychology, which eventually

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<v Speaker 2>turned into a PhD and then a post doc.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, the hours you put in, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy hour workweeks were not unheard of. And he was

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<v Speaker 1>very considered about me coming home and going right up

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<v Speaker 1>to my room and just working on my dissertation.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan wasn't exactly the romantic type, but life with him

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<v Speaker 2>was steady easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt special, I felt lucky. I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten the jackpot. We had a routine. We'd either

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<v Speaker 1>have breakfast together or go out to eat. He liked

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<v Speaker 1>to order the newspaper and read it at night. We

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<v Speaker 1>would have dinner at a prompt time because he often

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<v Speaker 1>worked in the evenings and his home office and I

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<v Speaker 1>would be doing homework. It was comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Becoming a psychologist was Jan's sole focus.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to the point when I was finishing my

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<v Speaker 1>doctor and he said, you know, we really ought to

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<v Speaker 1>furnish the living room. We've been in this house for years,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go, oh, yeah, that's a good idea. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I never noticed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan took care of her.

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<v Speaker 1>He took care of the bills, income taxes, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. He managed one hundred percent of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was fine with that. I was just glad not

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<v Speaker 1>to have one more thing on my plate. So we

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<v Speaker 1>never argued over money. I never worried about it.

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<v Speaker 2>They stuck to the same old routine as the years

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<v Speaker 2>ticked by. Then in nineteen eighty four, ten years into

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<v Speaker 2>their marriage, Jan noticed a change in Allan. It started

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<v Speaker 2>in November, when she traveled to Arizona to be with

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<v Speaker 2>her parents. She'd come down with mono, so she went

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<v Speaker 2>to recover where it was warmer.

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<v Speaker 1>That coincidentally happened to fall on his fiftieth birthday. That night,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it's his birthday, and I felt like crap,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had such a raging, raw, sore throat, but

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<v Speaker 1>I set my alarm and got up and called him

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<v Speaker 1>at eleven o'clock and thang, a'm happy birthday, and he

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<v Speaker 1>started tearing up. I thought it was because he was

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<v Speaker 1>worried about me and my health.

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<v Speaker 2>She stayed in Arizona for three weeks. When Jan got

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<v Speaker 2>better and returned to Michigan, Alan seemed disturbed. He was panicked.

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<v Speaker 2>She'd never seen him like this before, and he continued

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<v Speaker 2>to spiral downward for months, and by May of nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five, they decided to admit him to a psychiatric

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<v Speaker 2>hospital for a few weeks of intensive mental health care.

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<v Speaker 1>And he kept saying to me at the hospital when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the process of getting him hospitalized, you're

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<v Speaker 1>pure snow here, a snow here as snow.

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<v Speaker 2>What did that mean? The phrase didn't make any sense

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<v Speaker 2>to Jan. Throughout Alan's stay in the psych hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>He kept repeating words saying things like pure snow. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so bad, birthday, dawn money, pure as snow. I'm so bad,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to stand tall. And I just thought, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just craziness speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>He was having a psychotic break. Eventually, he was released

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<v Speaker 2>from the hospital and he seemed much better, but Jan

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't shake the feeling that something wasn't quite right, and

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<v Speaker 2>that feeling only grew as spring turned to summer. One day,

0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Jan was gardening out back and.

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<v Speaker 1>I went back there to trim the lilac bush. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is after days of rain, and I noticed three

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<v Speaker 1>dry cigarette butts on the ground in the mud near

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<v Speaker 1>our kitchen window. And that set off a big red

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<v Speaker 1>flag because they were dry, which meant they were recent.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a small detail, but one that didn't sit

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<v Speaker 2>right with her. Neither she or Alan smoked, and they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a gardener or a housekeeper, so that meant

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<v Speaker 2>someone had been standing outside her kitchen window smoking. Jane

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<v Speaker 2>imagined a stranger just lurking in her backyard, watching her

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<v Speaker 2>through the window. She checked every room in the house,

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<v Speaker 2>in the basement, all around the perimeter. No one was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan was at work, so she left him a message

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<v Speaker 2>at his office, but he never returned her call.

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<v Speaker 1>He came home from work and I was livid that

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<v Speaker 1>he had never called me, and he was patronizing and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, well, what do we need to do? Do

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<v Speaker 1>we need to get you a dog? Would that make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel better? I said, what would make me feel

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<v Speaker 1>better is if you return my phone call. Something is

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<v Speaker 1>a myths? Can't you feel it? You don't find cigarette

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<v Speaker 1>butts out there? Something is a myth? And he just

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<v Speaker 1>started laughing, like, oh, you're so cute. Oh that infuriated me.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't dismis somebody's got genuine reasons to be worried.

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<v Speaker 2>Was someone casing the house and planning to rob them?

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<v Speaker 2>Her mind went to dark places.

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<v Speaker 1>My way of handling stress is to do tasks, to

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<v Speaker 1>get busy and so after this incident, I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>catalog every single thing in our house, how many towels

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<v Speaker 1>did we own, where was our insurance policies? And put

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<v Speaker 1>it in a photo album, so that if somebody was

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<v Speaker 1>going to rob us, because that's what I thought was happening,

0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.479
<v Speaker 1>I could say to the insurance company, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we have. Here's proof of our belongings. Then one day

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<v Speaker 1>I went to go write a thank you note to somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>and I reached up in the closet shelf above my

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<v Speaker 1>head to pull out where I thought was where we

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<v Speaker 1>put the thank you notes and realized that photo album

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<v Speaker 1>had been missing. And I knew for sure that's where

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<v Speaker 1>it should be because I was the only one that

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with it.

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<v Speaker 2>She confronted Alan about it, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, what is with you? I took it to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I was bragging about you. You don't get it. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a great idea, And he went out

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<v Speaker 1>to his car and he got it and brought it

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<v Speaker 1>back in to show me, and it smelled like cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan explained that he wanted to show his colleagues this album.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't understand Jan's concern. Even with this explanation, she

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<v Speaker 2>still felt uneasy, especially when.

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<v Speaker 1>We started having hang up calls in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the night. A couple of the first ones, I grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, and it was always the same man. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a southern draw, he sounded like he was drunk,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was always asking for some person.

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<v Speaker 2>JAN didn't know who he was asking for. But every

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<v Speaker 2>few days this man would call back in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the night, and every time.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it was a wrong number and I hung up.

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<v Speaker 2>But nothing was more unsettling than what happened one evening

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning of July.

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<v Speaker 1>I was driving long Fox Canal on a stormy, foggy night,

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<v Speaker 1>and this car was following me, speeding up and then

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<v Speaker 1>backing off, speeding up and then backing off, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck? And we turned the corner onto my

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<v Speaker 1>side street, and I knew that very very well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that there was a dip in the road

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<v Speaker 1>where it turned, And so when I got close by,

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<v Speaker 1>I turned off my lights and sped up as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as I dare do it, drive and turn left into

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<v Speaker 1>my driveway and left onto the grass behind the hedge,

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<v Speaker 1>just sat there, and sure enough I watched them come by.

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<v Speaker 1>They stopped at every driveway on our side street, and

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<v Speaker 1>Eva stopped at my driveway, but they didn't see me,

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<v Speaker 1>and they drove on.

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<v Speaker 2>If one of these things had happened, sure she could

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<v Speaker 2>have chalked it up to paranoia. But the cigarettes, the

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<v Speaker 2>photo album, the hang up calls, being followed. Something was

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<v Speaker 2>off and Alan wasn't taking it seriously.

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Al blew it off. You don't know that they were

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>following you. Yeah, they were following me. He was always

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<v Speaker 1>belittling me when it came to issues of safety because

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't bothered by any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, on July thirteenth, nineteen eighty five, Alan didn't come

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<v Speaker 2>home for dinner at his usual time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a very stormy day. We lost power. It

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<v Speaker 1>was hail, rain, wind, So I wasn't totally shocked when

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't arrive promptly, although that was his pattern because

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<v Speaker 1>of the weather, and I figured the roads were probably impassable.

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<v Speaker 1>But by eleven o'clock that night, I got concerned. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is before cell phone, so there was no way

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<v Speaker 1>to check where he was. And one of the strangest

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 1>things happened that evening. My anxiety was escalating and I

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<v Speaker 1>was pacing I walked into his home off and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a bathroom attached to it, and I looked in

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror and I said out loud, he's dead. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not coming home. And as soon as I said those words,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the heck? It was like my voice

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<v Speaker 1>but not my thoughts, and I thought, my god, am

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<v Speaker 1>I being dramatic? This is stress speaking. Of course, he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be home. And I dismissed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jan woke up the next morning without Alan in bed

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<v Speaker 2>beside her. He had still not returned. She called friends

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<v Speaker 2>and family and coworkers of his No one had seen him,

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<v Speaker 2>so after twenty four hours, she reported him missing.

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<v Speaker 1>But nothing came of it that day or the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>or the next day or the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>With each day she grew more and more pain. He

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<v Speaker 2>could have been in a car accident or a carjacking.

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<v Speaker 2>He could have been mugged or kidnapped. After all, it

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<v Speaker 2>was Detroit in the eighties.

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Crime in Detroit was at an all time high at

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<v Speaker 1>that point in history. The statistics were at that time

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<v Speaker 1>that a car was stolen every thirteen seconds. You heard

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<v Speaker 1>sirens day and night. We were working in an area

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<v Speaker 1>that was high crime so it would not be unthinkable

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<v Speaker 1>that he was a victim of a crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Jan needed support. Her parents flew in from Arizona to

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<v Speaker 2>be with her, but they weren't the only ones at

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<v Speaker 2>her door.

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<v Speaker 1>On about this third day of him being gone, the

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<v Speaker 1>media descended and they never let up at all. They

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>were intrusive, they were relentless. They made it a living

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>hell for me. Nonetheless, we had to get the word out,

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 1>so they did. It was on the news every time

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<v Speaker 1>I turned around.

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<v Speaker 2>Jan waited. A week went by, then eight days, and

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<v Speaker 2>nine days, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>The tenth day. I got a phone call early on

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<v Speaker 1>a Sunday morning from a detective marlus Landero's. She asked

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<v Speaker 1>me to meet her down at the police headquarters.

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<v Speaker 2>The detective was outside the building waiting for her. When

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<v Speaker 2>she arrived, they went up in the elevator.

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<v Speaker 1>We got off on floor five, which was homicide, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was called into the office of the Inspector, Gil Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very short meeting. He said, we have reason

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to believe your husband's been murdered, but we don't have

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>his body yet, and I suggest you go home and

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<v Speaker 1>check your finances because we've been told that he's been

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<v Speaker 1>handing out a lot of cash down on cast Quarder,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the red light district of Detroit.

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<v Speaker 2>Jan Canty's husband Alan had been missing for over a

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<v Speaker 2>week when she got called into the Detroit police station.

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 2>The investigators suspected that Allan had been murdered, but they

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 2>didn't have his body. They'd been investigating his disappearance and

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 2>found something surprising. Allan was well known in Detroit's Red

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 2>lay district. He was often there spending money on sex workers.

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Jan knew her husband to be a bookish, bashful man,

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<v Speaker 2>a psychologist who's spent his free time reading.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got the wrong guy. No, this can't be uh huh.

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know my husband. My husband is somebody who

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>reads the newspaper every day. He's always home, but at

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a certain time when he says he's going to be home.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a ladies man. He doesn't to kill, he

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't do drugs, he doesn't gamble. He's got the wrong guy.

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>There's got to be another explanation, and the fact that

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have a body lent itself to my argument

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that they had the wrong guy.

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Jan was incredulous, but with no other leads, she took

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the detective's advice to take a look at Alan's finances.

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Everywhere I look, we were in the red, I mean IRS,

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>house payments, office payments. There was no savings account, there

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>was no life insurance policy, there was nothing. It turns out,

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>when I totaled it up in nineteen eighty five dollars,

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I was thirty thousand dollars in debt and I had

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>no income to speak of because I had just finished

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>my training.

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>A few days later, as she was still making sense

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 2>of the finances, she got another call from the police.

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 2>They had more intel.

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>And they said he's been keeping company with John Carl

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>fry Senor and Don Maurice Benz on Casper Street. And

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>they looked at me to see my reaction, and I'm like, okay,

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Like it might as well have been Greek. I don't

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>know them. That was the first I'd heard of them.

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Then the police revealed.

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>We have found his body and we need you to

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>identify him.

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>The detective explained to Jan that they would need to

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 2>go to the Morgue.

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>On the way over there. In her very professional and

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>caring way, she did her darnedest to prepare me to

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>see him in an altered state. Because he had been

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>buried in a bog for ten days in three different places.

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 2>His body had been dismembered.

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Some of his body parts were left done the freeway.

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to identify those. What I had to

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>identify was his head. My dad said, you can't do

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>this by yourself. I'm going to go with you. And

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I said, Dad, this isn't your problem, this is my problem.

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>But I could not stand. I could literally not stand.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>It felt like my legs were made out of silly buddy.

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:26.239
<v Speaker 2>The detective held her up on one side as her

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>dad held her up on the other. The experience was

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>incredibly traumatic. Jan can't even remember who was in the room.

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I do remember Detective Landero's telling me all you have

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>to do is say yes or no. That's it, and

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>we're out of here. And when they put his head

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>in a table, I couldn't speak and I closed my

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>eyes and she was very patient, and then she asked

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>me yes or no. He didn't have his glasses on,

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>but his hair looked the same, and his eyelashes and

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>his eyebrows looked the same. When I said yes, I

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>was sure it was him.

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 2>The detective snuck Jan out the back. Camera crews were

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 2>waiting for her out front. The story had become national news.

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 2>On the way home from the morgue, Jen laid down

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>in the back of the police car. Jan could no

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 2>longer deny the reality her husband was dead and he

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 2>was murdered by people she'd never heard of. And who

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 2>were these people? Well, they were still at large.

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>There was an APB for their whereabouts, and they started

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>having their faces plastered in the news.

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Jan didn't want to look at the TV, but her

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 2>dad insisted.

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>He said, I want you to know their faces. I

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're on their way to our house, but

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you're out and about in the community. I want you

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to be able to identify them if you ever see them,

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and your first obligation is to call nine to one

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>one then me in that order. So that's the first

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I knew of their faces and connected them with their name.

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Their names were John Carl Frei Senior, and don Marie Spence.

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 2>As Jan watched the news, she found out for the

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>first time who these people were. Jawn was a sex

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>worker and John was her boyfriend. The media ran with

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the story of a wealthy psychologist being sucked into a

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 2>dark love triangle, But could that be true? Jan still

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 2>couldn't fathom it.

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm still like, hell, that doesn't make sense. I

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't wrap my head out. It was so unlike him.

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 2>The man she knew was quiet, intellectual, earnest, someone who'd

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 2>get wrapped up in a world like this was a

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>different Alan Canty entirely. Jan barely had the basic facts

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 2>of the case. She didn't even know how Alan met

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 2>these people and what their relationship really was. But she

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't have the time to look for answers.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I had so many more urgent, immediate things on my plate.

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I was worried about the irs selling my house, if

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.479
<v Speaker 1>I had AIDS, I was going through AIDS testing. I

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>had no time to wonder and think about what did

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>he do, what did he say? Where did he go?

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>That was a low priority. I was worried about my

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>own safety.

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 2>After all, she had been followed. The fear and stress

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>were taking a massive toll on her.

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sleeping. I into permanent menopause. I was physically sick.

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I lost a lot of my hair, I lost a

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of weight.

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Alan had led a double life one She still didn't

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 2>have a clear picture of she was deeply betrayed, but

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 2>she was also grieving.

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I was very defensive, irrationally angry, like I would get

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:27.479
<v Speaker 1>angry at going into the grocery store that they didn't

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>make loaves of bread for one person. I was looking

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 1>for things to get angry about. Somebody opened the door

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>for me. I'm like, what do they think I'm weak?

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.280
<v Speaker 1>They got to open the door for me. I didn't

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 1>maybe say anything to him, but internally I was very

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:42.280
<v Speaker 1>angry all the time.

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 2>With Alan dead, there was nowhere for her anger to go.

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 2>He couldn't answer for what he'd done. And to make

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>matters worse, Alan had kept financial secrets big ones.

0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I got handed a bill for thirty seven thousand dollars

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:05.439
<v Speaker 1>field for back rent. He'd taken out personal loans, he'd

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>forged my name. I was so broke. I didn't know

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>how I was going to get through the winter. I

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.720
<v Speaker 1>turned down the heat so much that I had frozen pipes.

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I started eating less. I can serve my trips to

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 1>the store. I walked when I could. I sold off

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>everything I could, his car, parts, jewelry, furniture, books. One

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>night I was by myself as usual, and it was

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a peaceful night. I was sitting by the fire at

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>my house. The room was empty. There wasn't a stick

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>of furniture in there, because I'd sold it all, and

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking, somehow, some way, I'm going to make

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:54.919
<v Speaker 1>this a positive thing. I don't know how, I don't

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>know when, but I do know why, because if I don't,

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it'll trumble me.

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 2>It took two years for Jan to get on steady

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 2>ground after Alan was murdered, and during that time she

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 2>was still unaware of who her husband really was and

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:18.240
<v Speaker 2>what he had truly done. Then, in nineteen eighty seven,

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Jan got approached by a reporter. He was writing a

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 2>book about Alan's case. At first, Jan tried to shut

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the book down. She didn't need anyone showing up on

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>her doorstep again digging up old wounds.

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to speak with him. I didn't want

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>anything to do with it. And I went to my

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>attorney about it, and he goes, you can't stop it.

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:44.439
<v Speaker 1>He's writing it based on public records, and in fact,

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a reason you should cooperate with them. And I go,

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>what's that? And he said, you're going to learn things

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that you need to know. He's going to have the time.

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>He's going to have the answers, and if you don't

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>get the answers, you'll always wonder. So I'd suggest you

0:36:59.120 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>meet with him.

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:05.479
<v Speaker 2>So she did, and through the reporter's findings, the other

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Alan Canty finally revealed himself. Here's what she learned.

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>She bought our marriage. He had women on the side,

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>and every single one of them was in need financially.

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>He had offered to put up some in their own apartments.

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>He had offered to pay the tuition of others. He

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>paid the medical bills of some and even visited them

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital. There was never a time when he

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>was the person I thought.

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 2>He was all those late nights that he was working.

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 2>It was really with these women. It was like he

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 2>had a pathological desire to save women in need. So

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 2>when his mother gave Alan five hundred dollars for his

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 2>fiftieth birthday.

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>He took that money and spent it on Dawn. That's

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 1>the first time he met her.

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 2>This was when Jan was sick with mono and resting

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 2>at her parents' place in air Arizona. Jan thought back

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 2>to that birthday call when Alan started to cry. Originally,

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.280
<v Speaker 2>she thought it was out of concern for her health.

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I think instead it was a little pang of guilt,

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>but was short lived.

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 2>The guilt apparently subsided, and Alan continued to spend time

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 2>in the red light district where he met Don. There

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't the sheepish guy Jan had known. Even smaller

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>details didn't square up with what she knew about him.

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 2>For one thing, she discovered.

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 1>He was a very good pool player, and he would

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>challenge people playing pool, which I can't even picture him

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:43.280
<v Speaker 1>in a bar let alone playing pool.

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 2>The other Alan spent his nights with Don at bars,

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 2>and the reporter told Jan something that changed her understanding

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 2>of the whole dynamic. Before Alan died, he'd been hanging

0:38:56.400 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 2>out with Don and John for nine months, so that

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.280
<v Speaker 2>time Alan wasn't paying Don for sex.

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>They stopped having sex. They only had sex the first

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>two months.

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 2>So what was the point of their relationship? Could it

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:16.360
<v Speaker 2>be drugs? The reporter turned to Jan for an answer,

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and in her gut she knew it was an addiction

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 2>of a different kind, an addiction to being needed.

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>So this was like a guarantee, you know, if I'm

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 1>going to surround myself with people who need me financially,

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I have a guarantee of an audience. I have a

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 1>guarantee of a partner. They're not going to leave me.

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:44.800
<v Speaker 2>He liked having a captive audience.

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>He will go over there and read the paper and

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 1>bring them breakfast, and they'd sit and listen with boredom

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to his stories.

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Of course, Don and John got something out of this

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>relationship too. They were in it for money. Jan was

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>able to figure out just how much Allan had given them.

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>It was one hundred and fifty grand.

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 2>In today's money, that's nearly four hundred and forty thousand dollars.

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 1>And that doesn't include the cars he bought them, the

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>rent he paid, the meals he paid for.

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 2>He also bought them heroin.

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:24.840
<v Speaker 1>He would take them on drug runs for them, and

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that was his making sure they were going

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>to be dependent upon him.

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 2>This was Alan's m He got people to need him.

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:38.439
<v Speaker 2>But this time Alan was mixed up with some very

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 2>dangerous people.

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean even among other criminals. John was feared, that's

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>how vicious he was.

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Remember those phone calls Jan got in the middle of

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 2>the night, the ones from the man with the Southern

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:56.280
<v Speaker 2>accent that was John Fry. Alan had lied and said

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 2>he was a widower. So when John called the house

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 2>and heard Allan's wife on the line, he was surprised.

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Then he got an idea he could use that information

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 2>to extort Alan, to threaten his wife in exchange for

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 2>more and more money, and they drained him dry.

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>When he ran out of money, they lost patience with him,

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 1>They had no interest in him and decided, at least

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>John decided the best thing to do was just to

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>kill him and get him out of their hair.

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Near the end, Alan started to see the writing on

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 2>the wall.

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 1>He was running out of money to give them. He

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>realized that John had been calling our house and hanging up.

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Things were coming to a head, and I think he'd decompensated.

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 2>That led to Alan's psychotic break, or what Jan had

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 2>thought was a psychotic break. She remembered that phrase Alan

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 2>kept repeating when he was in the hospital.

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>You're purest snow, purest snow, snow. And I think in

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.280
<v Speaker 1>his mind at that point in time, he was seeing

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Don and me as very different people.

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 2>To Alan, Jan and Don were total opposites. Jan was

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<v Speaker 2>the woman he transformed into something good and clean and pure.

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<v Speaker 2>Don brought out his dark side. But when Jan learned

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<v Speaker 2>more about Don's backstory. It resonated with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Don came from an abusive household, and she did not

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<v Speaker 1>have a good self esteem. I mean, she quit school

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<v Speaker 1>a month before she graduated high school and she was

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<v Speaker 1>nominated val Victorian. Instead, she threw all that away, left

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<v Speaker 1>the suburbs to go downtown and met up with John,

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<v Speaker 1>and their life took a turn for the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>After that, Jan learned of at least four other women

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<v Speaker 2>he supported financially. Jan herself had been that young woman

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of potential and no direction to go in.

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<v Speaker 2>When she met Alan, her life changed too.

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<v Speaker 1>In a way that was the old me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I had nothing when I met him, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'll pay your tuition, just like he said it

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<v Speaker 1>to them.

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<v Speaker 2>And now, for the first time she saw their relationship

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<v Speaker 2>through his eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>It explained to me his attraction to me. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that I was a project. I was a challenged to

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<v Speaker 1>be fixed, to be provided for. I was a good

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<v Speaker 1>prop someone he could perform for with his knowledge and

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<v Speaker 1>his money, and I sat and ate it all up.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a willing participant.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a strange feeling, especially considering that Alan helped her

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<v Speaker 2>achieve so many dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>I will always be grateful for what he gave me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean just financially, but the encouragement. He was

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<v Speaker 1>instrumental in getting me on my path, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I would have done it without him.

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<v Speaker 2>The very things she loved about Alan were the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that destroyed him and destroyed her life. John Fry was

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<v Speaker 2>eventually convicted of murder and the mutilation of a body.

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<v Speaker 2>He served the rest of his life in prison. John

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<v Speaker 2>served ten months plus three years probation for her role

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<v Speaker 2>in the crime. As for jan she wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I left Detroit, I paid off the bills and

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<v Speaker 1>got away from the media and got away from the police.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I could start to reinvent my life.

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<v Speaker 2>She's lived many lives since that time. She's taught in

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<v Speaker 2>practiced psychology, traveled the world, gotten remarried. Still, she couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>leave what happened with Alan behind completely. She continued to

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<v Speaker 2>think about the man he'd been as both a victim

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<v Speaker 2>and a perpetrator.

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<v Speaker 1>What that did was end up in conflicted grief. You

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<v Speaker 1>have dueling emotions. There's a part of you that's like

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<v Speaker 1>the typical grief. Feel those loss and sadness and missing

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<v Speaker 1>in person, but the other side of it is relief.

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<v Speaker 2>Dealing with this complicated grief and trauma made it hard

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<v Speaker 2>for Jan to connect with people who could possibly understand

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<v Speaker 2>what she'd gone through, but eventually she found community and

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<v Speaker 2>other homicide survivors.

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<v Speaker 1>Homicide survivor is someone who is grieving over the homicide

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<v Speaker 1>of a loved one. It's somebody who's left with the

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<v Speaker 1>aftermath of murder. And the reason we don't know of

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<v Speaker 1>that term is I don't think it's projected much in

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<v Speaker 1>true crime. The focus is on the perpetrator and the

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<v Speaker 1>deed a little bit on the victim, and we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the background, and nobody cares. They think if we get

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<v Speaker 1>the perpetrator convicted, that that's the end of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of like, oh if you only knew.

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<v Speaker 2>Knowing people who shared even parts of her own experience

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<v Speaker 2>give her a deep sense of belonging.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I hold that as near and dear to my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>The people I have met, the stories I have heard,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so healing. It was like the missing piece.

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<v Speaker 2>Supporting and advocating for homicide survivors has become Jan's mission.

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<v Speaker 2>In life. We end all of our episodes with the

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<v Speaker 2>same question, why do you want to tell your story?

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<v Speaker 1>If you think about most movies dealing with homicide, the

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<v Speaker 1>family of the victim is either never shown or they're

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<v Speaker 1>grieving in the corner wringing their hands. That's the end

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<v Speaker 1>of them. There's not any curiosity about it. And the

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<v Speaker 1>fact of the matter is anybody listening could be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of our club. Homicide cuts across all racial lines, age, economic, geographic,

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<v Speaker 1>you name it. Nobody is immune. And if anything's going

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<v Speaker 1>to change, we have to put our story out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody Scott to do it.

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