1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: This is like the presidential debate. We'll have to take 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: the fact checkers a good Ryan Mink dot Com facts 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: right there. I appreciate you pointing out your airs and 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: your fallacies. That's an honorable man right there. That's why 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: you're so stunned. Understand what I'm doing. Welcome into the lounge. 6 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: I am Ryan Mink and I'm Garrett Downing, and I 7 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: wish we just had something to talk about today, Ryan, Yes, seriously, 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: nothing going on now, it's gonna be We're gonna get 9 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: into everything. Lots of people have questions about what's going on. Obviously, 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: the big news happening this week is that the Ravens 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: have made a change at offensive corner or. Mark Trestman, 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: who has been here for the last year and a half. 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: He's out, and Martin morning Wake has taken over as 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and play color on game day. It's 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: a move that I don't think shocked either of us, 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: but has pretty large ripple effect. So we're gonna get 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: heavy into the offense. It's an offensive heavy podcast today, Garrett. 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: And first of all, do we have a reader or 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: listener email? Yes, we do, And as you probably can guess, 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: there were lots of emails about the offense, so I 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 1: picked one of those. The subject line of this email 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: was it's getting tough to watch and it's from Gary Elliott. 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: The email reads, Hey guys, I'm a big Ravens fan 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: and fan of the podcast from Ashington, Northumberland, England International. 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Another one I swear, I don't think when you post 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: the podcast does it go domestically or is it only abroad? 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: Let's posting on international podcast dot. I think that's been 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: the problem. Well, Gary, I'll continues as much of a 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: big Ravens fan I am. This season has been really 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: hard to watch, especially the last two games. What's going 31 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: on with the offense? Who's to blame? Is a trustman? 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: Is a Flacco? Was that the o line? Well, Gary, 33 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna hope to get to answer some of those 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: questions today as we dig in to the offense. Here 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: as always, you want to hear from you guys, so 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: you can send us your emails. The mail is the 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. We try to 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: read at least one every week, and hopefully next week 39 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: we have some happier emails that are coming to us 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: from our international fans from all the internet. So here 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: I kind of, you know, let the cat out of 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: the bag. But I'll ask you this question, were you 43 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: surprised by the move? I was not shocked by the move. 44 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I really liked getting to know 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: Mark Trustman. I'd say, since he's been here, he's been 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: h somebody that just have liked his personality. And I think, um, 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: i'd say he's a little bit different off camera, so 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: to speak, than he is in public. You know people, 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: I'll say this, he was one of the few coaches 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: that have ever been here who would go out of 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: his way to say he enjoyed our work. Yeah he did. 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why. Maybe that's why I liked him. It 53 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: doesn't take much if you say, hey, I like that article, 54 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: I like that video, or I like that podcast, all 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're on my list. You're on my 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: A list. So maybe that was it. But um, in 57 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: terms of the move, I wasn't shocked because the offense 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: just hadn't looked good at all really at any point, 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: outside of a couple of drives this year, it had 60 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: been stagnant the entire season. Um, and really even going 61 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: back to last season, before so many guys went down 62 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: with injuries. You know, you can look at the last 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: quarter of the season when Joe Flacca was hurt and 64 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: you're playing with you know, third and fourth stringers. Well, 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about over the 66 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: past year and a half. This offense really has never 67 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: gotten into a rhythm. And well, last year you can 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: certainly point to a lot of injuries as part of 69 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: the problem with it. But I'm saying even before that happened. 70 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: That's my point is even before Joe went down, before 71 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: Steve went down, before for Set went down. Last season, 72 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: the running game never really was in sank. Ever, there 73 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: were issues with the passing game. This year, they invested heavily, 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: not only a quarterback. They brought in a new left tackle, 75 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: they brought a new weapons They got Perriman back, Dennis 76 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: Pittter returned, Steve Smith was back, so you felt like, Okay, 77 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: you've got the weapons around Joe, everything needs to click. Yeah. Well, 78 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: to me, whenever something like this happens, uh, there's a 79 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: lot of things that play into it, right, and and 80 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: it's I think it would be a mistake to say 81 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: all the Ravens problems you can just put it on 82 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: Mark trust and letting him go solves at all. I 83 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: think that would be a mistake to think that way, 84 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, Uh, because you look at it, you talk 85 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: about bringing in a new left tackle. Ronnie Stanley has 86 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: been out the past two games, both losses. That might 87 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: have something to do with it. Uh. The offense that 88 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: I agree, on paper, looks great. You know, we said 89 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: this all preseason leading into the year. On paper, it 90 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: looks great. Now we have yet to see on the field. 91 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: It came together very late. I mean, that group never 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: really played together until the first week. And I think 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: that we gave the offense somewhat of a pass for 94 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: the slow start, and it was easy to give them 95 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: pass a pass when you're winning, you know, for the 96 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: first three games, you're like, well, that that group is 97 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: gonna come together. And I think the move to release 98 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: Mark is a signal that, you know what you had 99 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: five weeks and it still hadn't come together, and that's 100 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: a problem. You know, that's a legitimate problem. Just real 101 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: quick on the coming together late, I think there's some 102 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: validity to that, and I understand what you're saying. You know, 103 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: when you don't have Steve Smith out there practicing, Imperiman 104 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: out they're practicing. It's going to take a little of 105 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: a training camp. But you know what, I don't know 106 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: if I put too much stock into that. Sam Bradford 107 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: got traded to the Vikings like two weeks before the 108 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: season started in their five and oh, and he's looked 109 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: really good. Tom Brady missed the entire one thing. I 110 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: understand he saw Brady and the Patriots and all that. 111 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: He went out there and put up four hundred yards 112 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: and what three touchdowns on his return. So I think 113 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: that you have to consider the other aspects of that 114 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I 115 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: think that's that's definitely a fair point. Uh. To me, 116 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: what signals this change really was? I think it became 117 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: evident that Mark and Joe really weren't on the same 118 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: page with where this offense was or even maybe going. 119 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean when Joe after Sunday's game says, that's not 120 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: a winning formula, Like, I'm trying to be patient. I'm 121 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: trying to be patient and it's very difficult, and I 122 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: don't think it's a winning formula. That's pretty strong. Uh, 123 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, when when you're coming off the field and 124 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: fans are really struggling their shoulders, holding their hands up 125 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: and booing. You know that's not good, and uh so, 126 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: I I think a change at this point need to 127 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: be made. As much as I like Mark and you 128 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: hate to see people lose their job in this business, 129 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: or anybody lose their job, especially a good guy like 130 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: Mark and a good coach, I think it's a change 131 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: that needed to be made. The thing so in terms 132 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: of what doesn't what's not working, because that's what some 133 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: people ask, is like, what's going wrong with the offense? 134 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: And when you try to like kind of hone in 135 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: on it rather than just saying, oh, the offense sucks. Okay, well, 136 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: let's try to take it a little bit deeper here. 137 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: And when I look at it, the thing that really 138 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: stands out to me, and I think it goes to 139 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: the point that you're making. I think that Joe his 140 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: strength is his arm and his ability to push the 141 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: ball up the field. And I'm not talking about bombs. 142 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking about using more, okay, fifteen yards over the middle, 143 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: fifteen yard outplay, using the entire field. And it felt 144 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: like throughout this entire your season, and I looked up 145 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: the stats last week, Flacco was getting the ball out 146 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: of his hands quickly, and I felt like the strategy 147 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: coming to the season was to sort of go with 148 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: the dick and donc get the ball out of your 149 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: hands quickly. That was the approach, and I just don't 150 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: think that that really is flaccos wheelhouse. It kind of 151 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: felt like you took a shooting guard and made him 152 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: a power forward, you know, like, can he do it? Yeah, 153 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: but he's really better suited at this different position. That's 154 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of it just felt a little ill fitting. Did 155 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: you says you're looking at the stats? Did you check 156 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: how many checkdowns there were in sundays game against the Redskins? 157 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean check down throws. There were a bunch of them, right, 158 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking like near a dozen. Are you even look 159 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: at the final drive? Everything was just a dink and 160 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: dunk check down over the middle. But are you saying 161 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: that he should have thrown? I'm guess I'm missing out 162 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: what your point is. My point is that this offense 163 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: was a dink and dunk offense, right, it's not to 164 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: your point stretching the field. You agree with me, Yes, 165 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: that's why you're so Stunnedn't understand what I'm doing. I'm like, 166 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: where where are you coming at this? Mark Trustman came 167 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: to Baltimore and all the Chicago Bears reporters said was 168 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: it's a dinking dunk. I mean they were always constantly 169 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: That's why Matt Forte led the league almost in catches 170 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: as a running back. I mean then you have like 171 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: a hundred receptions or close to it. I mean that 172 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: told you what Mark Tressman's offense offensive bread and butter is. 173 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: It's dink and dunked. I mean kyl uche led the 174 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: team and catches the previous week, uh, or close to it. 175 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: Speaking of Juice, we're gonna have him on the podcast. 176 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: Nice teaser, um, and I agree with you. The Ravens 177 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: one came in the season wanted to do the New 178 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: England Patriots. Get rid of the ball quickly, make it 179 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: easier decisions for Joe, that kind of thing. But in 180 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: order to do that, you also need to get yards 181 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: after catch. It can't be like a three or four 182 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: yard route and you're getting wrapped up immediately. And that's 183 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: what you saw. There wasn't any breaking away from guys. 184 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean Steve Smith, that was the exception. But that 185 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: was the exception. So I agree with you, Uh, you 186 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: need to take more shots down the field, and it 187 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: doesn't I'm not just talking about heaves or bombs. Yeah, 188 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: that's what I think. Sometimes you start talking about pushing 189 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: the ball off the field, everyone assumes you're just taking long, 190 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: deep balls to Prescott pairman. We're talking about not throwing 191 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: behind the line of scourage and having two yard losses 192 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: on first and ten in the passage. So so, in 193 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: terms of what's going to change, is that where we 194 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: think the biggest change is going to be. Because the 195 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: other thing that everyone's talking about, and I think yesterday 196 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: was a perfect example of this, is the need to 197 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: run the ball more. And I'm not a big run 198 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: the ball guy. I've said it on a number of 199 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: different occasions. I know you're not huge into that either, 200 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: but yesterday I was sitting there in the press box 201 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: and I was saying, you gotta run the ball more. 202 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: You know, Terence West when you're popping them for eight something, 203 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: carry carry the reason. I absolutely the reason I normally 204 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: say I'm not a big run the ball guys because 205 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: I assume that you're getting like three yards a carrier 206 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: where you can get a lot more with the passing game. Yesterday, 207 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: you were getting a lot more on the ground than 208 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: you were through the air. You're average the average more 209 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: yards per play per running play than per passing play, exactly, 210 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: so you're it's more productive. It also takes more time 211 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: off the clock, allows your defense to get more rest, 212 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: shortens the game where you're all things that you wanted 213 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: to do. Particularly yesterday's game when you had the lead early, 214 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: It's not like you were playing from behind and you 215 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: had to throw the ball. You know. I think that 216 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: was a big sticking point, was that when the running 217 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: game with a run pass balance gets as out of 218 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: whack in a game where there was every reason for 219 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: it to be the other way, it just didn't mesh. 220 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: Something wasn't right. And and we're not the only people 221 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: to see that, you know, I think that in the 222 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: locker room, uh, the defense saw that. You know. The 223 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: defense can't be throwed when they see Terrence West running 224 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: up and down the field and then all of a sudden, 225 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: Joe's it's three and out, three and out, three and 226 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: out in the passing game, and they're right back on 227 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: the field in a hurry. You know, I'm sure they're 228 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: not happy seeing that neither is Terence West. I'm sure, uh, 229 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: you know everybody sees that and that that's that's not good. 230 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: You know, when when you start to have people not 231 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: really being on board with what the plan is. Yeah, 232 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: this is this is a side note. I think Terence 233 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: West has been uh he's been a bright spot for sure. Yeah. 234 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: I just but I think that he's kind of legit, 235 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, like, I think it's more than just he 236 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: had one good game. Now has been two good games. 237 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: I think he could be a pretty good running back. 238 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: And I thought I think everyone sort of assumed that 239 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: when kind of Dixon came back, that he was going 240 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: to take over the starting job. I'm not so sure anymore. 241 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: I think Terence West is legit. I think in my 242 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: own record on saying he could rush for a thousand 243 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: yards this year on this pot very podcast, were you 244 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: on record for saying that, yes, we gotta pull up 245 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: the tape, pull up the tape. This is like the 246 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: presidential debate, pull up the tape. The fact checkers in 247 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: good Ryan Mink dot com the facts right there. Yes, 248 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: I do believe that Terence West is legit. I think 249 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: that he'll pretty much split it with Buck or not 250 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: with Buck, but with Dixon, Buck will be sprinkled in. 251 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: And what's also worth pointing out is that the running 252 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: game has gotten it done without Ronnie Stanley the past 253 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: few games, and the offensive line has been bagged up. 254 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you had without Ronnie Stanley and Alex Lewis 255 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: against Oakland and you ran the ball pretty darn well. 256 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: So if you get all your pieces back on the 257 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: offensive line, now, what's your run game look like? I 258 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: think I'm all. However, also on record on saying that 259 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: I didn't think the running game was ever gonna get 260 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: turned around me. See, I fact checked myself. It makes 261 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: me a great candidate. I appreciate you pointing out your 262 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: airs and your fallacy. That's an honorable man right there. Well, okay, 263 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: so I think that we've seen this before here. You 264 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: know it was definitely happened with cam camera here a 265 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: few years ago. Is that the guy started becomes public 266 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: enemy number one, and the play caller often is that guy, well, 267 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: because everybody at him thinks they're a play call exactly. 268 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: I played Man and I know how to call play, 269 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: so you know, it was my bread and butter, and 270 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: Man was the ten yard outs. The heat was just automatic. Man, 271 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: I could call dial that up every single time. I 272 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: don't know why they don't do that in the pros 273 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: exactly out You're just like all the fans who think 274 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: they're play callers. My thing. You always had a running quarterback. 275 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: You needed to have the running You always play with 276 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: Dick Michael Vick. Oh yeah, no question. Even if I 277 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: was playing with the Ravens like old school, I would 278 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: swap in Troy Smith. Anyway, you also have to point 279 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: out and there's other there's blame to go around, you know, 280 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: Like I look at yesterday's game and Perryman, he should 281 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: have had that long touchdown down the sidelines. And I 282 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: know it was a really tough play at the end 283 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: of the game, really was only a few plades of 284 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: grass away from getting down. But I think a veteran 285 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: receiver gets to swipt down that's tough one. But yeah, 286 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean if he just went limp basically and it's 287 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: a tough play, he'll come down, then Yeah. I put 288 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: I really faltered more for the one that was in 289 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: his hands he had gotten over top and Joe Joe 290 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: for the criticism that I had on the podcast, last 291 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: week about his deep ball. Put it on money. Put 292 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: it he hurt me. So you're welcome, Ravens fans. Uh. 293 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: He put that one on the money. That was a 294 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: great throw. And that's what Perryman was drafted to do. 295 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: Get over top, beat him with your speed, make the play, 296 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: and he's got to make it. Yeah. And I think 297 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: the bigger point that I'm making there is it comes 298 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: back to something that we talked so much about throughout 299 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: the off season and even into training camp. It's the 300 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: playmaker's word, and so they need guys to step up 301 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: and the playmakers. Steve Smith has shown to me that 302 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: he could still be a playmaker, but then he got 303 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: hurt and he wasn't playing, So then who's gonna step up? Okay, Perriman, 304 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: they want him to be a playmaker, and they gave 305 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: him a couple of opportunities and he just wasn't able 306 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: to finish the play. And so that's what there are. 307 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: This offense is still looks So as much as you 308 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about the play calls or the run 309 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: past balance, you also need players to step up and 310 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: make plays at the end of the game. It's been 311 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: too many drops to be quite Frank at the end 312 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: of the game. Yeah too. I mean, Chris Moore the 313 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: drop against Oakland was a big, big drop. If he 314 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: doesn't drop that ball, they that might put him in 315 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: field goal range. The tucker. Uh you know, it's tough 316 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: to fault camart Aken or Mike Wallace on the drops, 317 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: the balls that hit him in the hands on the 318 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: last places of the game the past two weeks. They 319 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: got absolutely destroyed at the end of this. But but 320 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: it's the ball hitching the hands and uh, you know, 321 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: you're an NFL receiver, So it's tough um Perrman like 322 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about. I mean, there's been too many drops. 323 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: It's just been too sloppy. There's been penalties. I mean, 324 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, the Mike Wallace holding call just killed the 325 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Ravens second drive right after you march down the field, 326 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: get a touchdown on your first drive and come out 327 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: second one. All right, let's put up another touchdown holding 328 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: first and twenty and with the dink and dunk offense, 329 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get You ain't gonna get that. So 330 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: penalties need to really cleaned up. I mean, there's been 331 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: there is a lot more. There are issues to solve 332 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: other than certainly Mark Trustman, and we don't even we 333 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: don't know if that issue has been solved. I mean, 334 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think Marty morning Weig is a good coach. 335 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: He can come in here and do it, but we 336 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: don't know. We haven't seen him, you know what I mean. 337 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: So like for fans that are just saying, like checking off, 338 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, Holly, you know Trustman's out. You know we 339 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: got Mark morning Like Marty morning Weig. You haven't seen Marty. 340 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: You know what have you seen from Marty as a 341 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: Ravens coach. Yeah. The other thing too, I think, and 342 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: we haven't even mentioned it, is the special teams needs 343 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: to play better. You know, you can't be giving up 344 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: eighty five yard punt. We were just hitting an offense here. 345 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: Well I know, I know, but like it goes to 346 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: the point of there's more blame to go around. You 347 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: give up the long return, you gotta you can't have 348 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: that happen. They're giving up. Yeah, you're three long returns. 349 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: Now that basically were three touchdowns. I mean, one actually 350 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, the other one went to the six 351 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: yard line. And then there's one in the Cleveland game. 352 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: I think it was or Jacksonville that brought him into 353 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Ravens territory and they went down to score to touchdown, 354 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: and it's just gotta be so maddening for Jerry Rossberg 355 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: and John Harbaugh, who obviously harp on this. I mean, 356 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: everyone knows that Hardball's background is a special teams coach. 357 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: They spent a lot of time on this. They're not pleased. 358 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean Hardball came out and said it after the game. Basically, 359 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: these young guys who are playing special teams, this is 360 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: a priority here. You gotta step it up, right. I 361 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: want to get back to the offense. Okay, all right? 362 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Do you think with Marty morning wig In what changes 363 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: and does have the Cam Cameron effect that the two 364 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: twelve firing did. What changes, to me is what we 365 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: talked about earlier. I think that you see less of 366 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: the dak and knock. I think you're gonna see them 367 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: push the ball off the field a little bit more. 368 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: And then I think that you're gonna see you aren't 369 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: going to see the run pass balance get as out 370 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: of whack as it did on Sunday. I think if 371 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: the running game is working, they're gonna work. They're gonna 372 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: stick to it um. Here's the thing that's interesting about that. 373 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: Harbs has come out and said, you know, we're gonna pass. 374 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that harbors He knows the 375 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: value of a running game, but he's aggressive in favor 376 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: of the passing. He would you agree with that? Uh? Yeah, 377 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: But I still think hardball, Like if we're talking core 378 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: philosophy here, I think that he still thinks you want 379 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: to be a team that gets after people on the 380 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: ground and you can ground and pound us, but particularly 381 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: in the second half of games, because you want to 382 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: be up and you want to be running the ball. 383 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: And I think that at his core he believes that. Yeah, 384 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: I think I think at his core he believes that. 385 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 1: But I think he is definitely of the mindset that, 386 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: you know, how you score points in this league you 387 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: throw the ball. The key is when you have your 388 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: running back put up sixty yards in the first quarter, 389 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: you don't want to get him erest of the game. 390 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: And if you're winning games, you need to be able 391 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: to salt the ball, salt the game away on the 392 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: ground by milking up clock Layton games. Here's the thing. 393 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be the Steelers offense or the or 394 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots offense, where the I think the passing game 395 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: is gonna come out and just beat the brakes off 396 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: people and you're gonna put forty points up and you 397 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: can march this team. I don't think that right now 398 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: in the passing game is good enough to do that. 399 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: And so your best chance at scoring points and winning games, 400 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: I think you know you have you have to stick 401 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: with the run more than certainly they have. What about 402 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: that's moving for a role for now. The Ravens after 403 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: losing two at home, which it's just kind of a backbreaker, 404 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: and saying you come home and you've got two winnable games, Yeah, 405 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: and that's the one. Now you got to go on 406 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: the road back to New Jersey and back to back weeks. 407 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: They're going to face a Giants team that is coming 408 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: off three straight losses of their own. They've got issues 409 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: and they're trying to get back on track. I hate 410 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: what you facing a team that they're kind of in 411 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: a must win situation. You love the mustwins. I think 412 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: that's tough. That's what you were talking about going down 413 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville too. Yeah, yeah, well it's not exactly like 414 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens won that one. By three touchdowns. Just keep 415 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: that in mind. Let's be let's be they're all must wins, Gerett, 416 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: They're all must wins for everybody. Anyway, that's not really 417 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about. Who's gonna stop motile Backham, 418 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: Who's gonna guard him? I think Jimmy Smith is gonna 419 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: get He's gonna shout, I'm gonna fall and wherever he goes. 420 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that you can do that. Yes, 421 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't want a chance. You need to actually pick 422 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: a side here. Is he gonna follow him all over 423 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: the field or not? No? Okay exactly because because the 424 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: Ravens rarely do that, right, So I'm playing their odds here. 425 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: If they only do that employ that strategy five percent 426 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: of the time, that I'm not gonna say yes and 427 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: be an idiot and go against the grain so heavily. 428 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: But but I think that this game, there's a much 429 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: better chance than your your average game. And I think 430 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: that it could could happen because I think that cornerbacks 431 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: who have come up jammed uh Oto, Beckham Jr. Gotten 432 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: his gotten his face, frustrated him a little bit with 433 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: their physicality are the ones that have had success against 434 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: him relatively speaking. I mean that guy's gonna get his 435 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 1: and I think that that's what suits Jimmy Smith. Well, well, that, folks, 436 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: is a definition of hedging your bats right there being smart. 437 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: I don't think that they're going to do that, um, 438 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: but I think it's really also interesting is what happens 439 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: on the other side of Jimmy Smith rest right, was 440 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: out of this game after having back spass ums. You 441 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: had Tavon Young really step in there. Shelton Price got 442 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: the start that he goes down with a hamstoring than 443 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: Tavon Young steps up, and all of us thought that 444 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: Tavon Young was only an inside guy than he plays 445 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: the rest of the game outside and he looked decent, 446 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he said after the game, that's 447 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: where I played outside my whole career at Temple. If 448 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: anything outside feels more natural than inside at this point, Yeah, 449 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: And one of my questions is did they feel comfortable 450 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: putting him outside against the Sean Jackson still really good player, 451 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: but not on the smaller side. Yeah. Now, Odell Beckham 452 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: not a huge player, but he's also just a freak. 453 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: You know, you're not gonna You're not gonna put him 454 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: out there against Brandon Marshall, Julio Jones. Yeah, you know, 455 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: yeah some of the Mike Evans. Yeah, that is not 456 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: going to be a recipe for success against Tavon Young. Yeah, 457 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: but I don't know that. Yeah, he's on that big 458 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: he's he's under six feet. Um that said, I do 459 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: you want Jimmy matching up against ADB? Want Tavon Young? 460 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: I would not like a fourth round rookie matchup against 461 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: the probably the most talented receiver in the NFL. Do 462 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: you think the Ravens are going to be able to 463 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: Is he going to have a field day? You know, 464 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: he's he's been getting his criticism. No, outside of A J. Green, 465 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens have really done a good job 466 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: on a lot of Like whenever there's a top tier, 467 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: elite wide receiver that comes in and they play against, 468 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: you rarely see that guy just absolutely have a heyday. Uh, 469 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: Agent Green is the exception. They have not figured that 470 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: one out, or he's just really really which he is really, 471 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: really really um So, No, I don't think od B 472 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: is gonna go absolutely off. I kind of wish though, 473 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: this would be a good game. You know, we had 474 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy on the podcast more. Maybe you can suggest this 475 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: to him in the locker room. He's gotta stet his 476 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: trash game. Talk up od B, as you've seen, gets 477 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: a little rattled, you know, starts kicking or hitting kicking 478 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: nets yea, bunking in the head. Yeah, that kind But 479 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: Jimmy is not a talker. He's not a talker, so 480 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: they won't get anything. We can talk trash to Jimmy 481 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: and kind of get them fired up this week, get 482 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: him talking trash. That's a good idea. I think Harses 483 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: would love that idea if we were really trying to 484 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: stir the pot between Jimmy Smith. I know Dee'll Beckham 485 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: before the game, he would love that. Yeah, provide some boardzero. Yeah, 486 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: there's nothing more that we can do than to provide 487 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: bolts to board fodder for the other team. That's where 488 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: that's why people love us aroun here. So now we're 489 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: moving forward to the New York Giants heading there Sunday. 490 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: I'll be on the train up there. Ravens aren't flying. 491 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of a nice way to travel. I like 492 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: the train, and we did that for Philly. It's really nice. 493 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: It's nice there's a little more more space. He feels 494 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: kind of like old schoolish party. Situation is a little different. 495 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: I remember one time, this is actually last time we 496 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: took the training. Story time. This is story time right here, 497 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: the last time we took the train. And you know, 498 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: usually we drive to the airport. It's b w I 499 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: we have we're parking lot. We know the whole routine. 500 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: This is like you gotta get the train station, you're 501 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: in a garage, all this stuff. So we come back 502 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: from a game Philly. It's a Super Bowl season from Philly, 503 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: right for a preseason game. I think, oh, no, second 504 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: game of season. Really, yeah, okay, come back from Philly, 505 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: and I think I was giving you a ride. You're 506 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: driving me home? Yeah, it's driving you home. And stories 507 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: around the park lot and there's Harves just walking around, 508 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: just looking like, can't find this car. He gets, Hey, guys, 509 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: you wond if I hop in the back? You drive 510 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: me around my car? And at the time, my crappy 511 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: little integral with my dog hair all and he's like, 512 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: it was a two door car, wasn't it. Yeah, it's 513 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: two doors. He's a little two door hunk, a junk. 514 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: And I I actually did the honor of saying, you 515 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: know what, Harves, I'll hop in the back, so I 516 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: climb in the back so he didn't have to remember. 517 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: He's like rolling down the window and he's like shouting people, Hey, 518 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: you know as he Chris is behind my thing. It's 519 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: like rattling, like I know much of the players like hey, 520 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: nice nice whip Harps. So anyway that'll be I'll be 521 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: on the train up to New York, New Jersey and uh, 522 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: let's hope that we're talking about a way. I think 523 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: we said that the past couple of weeks. It's gonna 524 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: come true. This time it's a lot more fun. Again. 525 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Kyle you check on the podcast later 526 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: this week. That's expected to come out on Thursday. Maybe 527 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, if you're lucky, you get it late Wednesday night, 528 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: but either way, you should have it for your commute 529 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: as you're heading to work Thursday morning, So make sure 530 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: you check that out. And as always mentioned before, go 531 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: ahead and send us your emails at the lounge at 532 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net. Then, for the love a guy, 533 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: can we get a Baltimore email? Can we get somebody 534 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: state side to email us I love our international fans, 535 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: but we need some more bal Amorians to email us 536 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: so and rate, review, share. We need to, you know, 537 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: get this thing going, get it blown up. Thank thank 538 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: you for listening, and we'll be back with you later 539 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: this week