1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: The wait is over for Cede Lamb to get his 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: money in Dallas. The week continues for that bag in 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Cincinnati and San Francisco. We'll tell you what the CD 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: signing means for those other wide receivers. 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: Is it Russell Wilson or Justin Fields? Is QB one? 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: In Pittsburgh we will explain Mike Tomlin isn'tsane just yet. Meanwhile, 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: preseason is over, So what do we make of which 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks did and did not see the field in the preseason. 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this much. We always come to play 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: right here. 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the insiders alongside Ian Rappaport at Mike Garrifolo, 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: I am Tom Pelvisero. James Slater is going to be 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: joined us Shorley Bridge at Condoll be here, Steve Whitch, 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: Michael f Florio has some scalding hot fantasy takes. As 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: you get in your final drafts here over the coming days, 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: you better hurry as you know what fellas. We got 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: ten days, just ten days until regular season football. 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: That's Right's the kickoff game. 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: The Ravens, the Chiefs Lamar Mahomes cannot wait for that time. 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 2: Ass are running short stif he got. 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, a superstar holding out the Cowboys. 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: Well they got that in the nick of time. 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and the Cowboys Today, after months of on 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: and off negotiations, after plenty of questions, after about six 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three Jerry Jones formal and impromptu. 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: Press conference, has got it done. 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: Four years, one hundred thirty six million, with one hundred 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: million guaranteed for Ceedee Lamb. 29 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: Howx heender are you? Mike McCarthy. 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: The reaction obviously was was great. Everybody in office was 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: fired up. You know, he can play outside, he can 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: play inside. He has the speed play outside and also 33 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: has the you know, agility in the in the quickness, 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: and you know he has the whole packets, you know. 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: And one thing about TV is he CD he's as 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: tough as they come. So yeah, he's definitely a complete, 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: complete player. 38 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: I know, if I got a thirty eight million dollars 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: signing bonus, you know what my first purchase would be 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: money gun, you know, to get some of those dollar 41 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: bills up in the air, because what are you really 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: gonna do with a thirty eight million dollar bonus? Then 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: a wild guess Ian's probably at least thought through this 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: over the course of time. But he I was talking 45 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: about how I did a. 46 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: Darry Jones money guns thing one time, and you both 47 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: laughed at me. 48 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: See, money guns they're a thing, right, But we well, 49 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: you don't want to get fined though, because if you 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: do the money guns in the wrong spot, they'll actually 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: take some of that money. 52 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: Oh wait, anyway, he's got millions of dollars. 53 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: Now you gonna talk about how this got done, Ian, 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: because really, for the last ten or eleven days, the conversation, 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: the negotiation kind of picked up. 56 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: It felt like it was coming to a head. 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: As we got under two weeks before the regular season 58 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: opener for the Cowboys against the Browns, they finalize it. 59 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: To tell me more, First of all, the number really 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: is where it should be. 61 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 5: Thirty four million dollars per year, four years, one hundred 62 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 5: and thirty six million, one hundred dollars million dollars guaranteed 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 5: a record for a wide receiver, thirty eight million dollars 64 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 5: signing momus. 65 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: It all makes sense. And we all spoke for months. 66 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 5: About whether or not CD Lamb was going to try 67 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 5: to be the highest paid receiver. 68 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: In the NFL. 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 5: It didn't sound like that conversation really got off the ground. 70 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 5: It was pretty clear that he was going to get 71 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 5: just under Justin Jefferson with really strong guarantees. 72 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: That's exactly what he got. 73 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 5: I get a million dollars per year less than Jefferson, 74 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 5: but gets paid really what he deserves. And just to 75 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 5: hear Mike McCarthy gush over the type of player, person, receiver, teammate, 76 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 5: all the things that Ced Lamb could do. 77 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: These are the guys you want to pay. 78 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 5: And obviously there's been so much conversation Mike about the 79 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 5: Cowboys not paying free agents. Part of the reason is 80 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 5: these are the guys they want to pay. 81 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: So you're right. 82 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 5: It really ramped up, I would say, over the last 83 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 5: ten days or so, this was always the target so 84 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 5: he could get to the practice field by tomorrow for 85 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 5: their first practice. 86 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: Did it need to take all this time? I don't know. 87 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 5: But what would we have talked about had we not 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 5: had the CD lend thing hanging over us? 89 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: Mike got it. 90 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 6: We're not upset at all. 91 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I could have taken five minutes right after Justin 92 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: Jefferson did his deal to come in right behind that, 93 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: but they spent a couple of months saying, you know, 94 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: you're you're a cowboy, right, you could take a little less. 95 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: There was also the length of the deal that was 96 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: being discussed, and they finally got him down to that 97 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: four year extension. There there was cash flow, there was 98 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: other considerations. There was also a you know, and the 99 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: teams in the non state tax states, and that was 100 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 4: non income tax states, that's Texas where they were saying, well, 101 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: justin Jefferson, yeah, he's at thirty five, but you could 102 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 4: come in a lot less than him and make the 103 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 4: same as him. And CD He's like, no, no, no, let's 104 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: get up there, because now if you factor in a 105 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 4: non state tax state, he's actually over Justin Jefferson. And 106 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: I know Jane Slater, resident of Texas, is going to 107 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: join us shortly, and she's listening. She said, yeah, but 108 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 4: the property taxes went up in Texas recently. Well there's 109 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 4: no picnic in Minnesota either, So look, long story short, 110 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 4: it was the pressure of the start of the regular 111 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 4: season and getting in enough practice time. 112 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: That was part of the conversation. Seriously, per my reporting, 113 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: that's what we do here, we report. 114 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: But yeah, enough time to get him into football shape 115 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: because there is no shape like football shape, nothing like 116 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 4: playing football to get in football shape. 117 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 6: That's what I'm trying to say. 118 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: I said it several times on the ERA over the 119 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: past several days here, knowing that CD Lamb was not 120 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: trying to outshoot the Justin Jefferson number. This wasn't a 121 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: super complicated deal to get done. It was going to 122 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: come in right under Jefferson. Flip side of that, Ian, 123 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: you have Dak Prescott, who I think that everybody looking 124 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: at this situation on his face, has so much leverage 125 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: there would be a surprise if he does not reset 126 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback market. 127 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: That spot right now is fifty five million dollars per year. 128 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: Dak's already been franchise tag twice because they had to 129 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: burn that second tag to get the paperwork through a 130 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: few years ago when they did an extension. There has 131 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: been conversation, there has been negotiation about a new deal 132 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: to keep Dak off the market next March. I would 133 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: certainly anticipate that is the next thing that Jerry Jones 134 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: and company try to ramp up here in the coming days. 135 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 5: Well, you mentioned a second franchise tag for Dak Prescott. 136 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 5: That was not a given that was one of the 137 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 5: I would say better negotiating moves from his agent, Todd 138 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 5: Frents to get the Cowboys to tag him a second time, 139 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: basically making it impossible to tag for the rest of 140 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 5: his career. That's one reason why Dak Prescott has all 141 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 5: the leverage he has right now, and make the mistake, 142 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 5: he has literally all the leverage. The Cowboys would clearly 143 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 5: like to get a long term deal done. If it 144 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 5: gets done, he is no doubt going to be the 145 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 5: new highest paided quarterback in the NFL. And here are 146 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 5: really the options. It is either taking deal that resets 147 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 5: the quarterback market. That's something that Dak Prescott is proud of, 148 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 5: that his agent is proud of, that the union, that 149 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 5: the whole world knows this is a great deal, or 150 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 5: just go be the biggest free agent in NFL history. 151 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 5: Those are really the options for Dak Prescott. That's the 152 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 5: situation he's in. And I would say the Cowboys have 153 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 5: a week or so maybe to get this done, but 154 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 5: the stakes are redibly high. 155 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: We spent so much time this offseason, almost a much 156 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: as Cowboys fans talking about the Cowboys. Why aren't they 157 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: getting these deals done? Why aren't they signed anybody. Well, 158 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: in recent days, they've made trades. They have signed some 159 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: veteran defensive players. They might not be done just yet. 160 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: It's a tweally short time ago. Four time Pro Bowl 161 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: running back Dalvin Cook is getting on a plane tonight 162 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: to go to Dallas and potentially join Ezekiel Elliott in 163 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: that backfield. We know that things didn't work out last 164 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: season for Dalvin. Aaron Rodgers goes down after four snaps. 165 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: They never really established the mix in the backfield they'd 166 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: intended with the Jets what the vault were actually had 167 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: a long run in one of those playoff games here. 168 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: But this time around, he's not coming off a shoulder 169 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: injury anymore. He's been spending time within the gym. As 170 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: you see right there, a very interesting potential addition for 171 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. 172 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: For now we know this. 173 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: It's one hundred and thirty six million dollars for CD 174 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: Lamb right there. You can split these numbers in different ways, 175 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: but certainly CD getting a very good deal as he 176 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: comes off of a career season. As welcome in our 177 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Jane Slater, who is of course there in Dallas. Jane 178 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: as Ian mentioned here Cowboys knew that they were kind 179 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: of running short on the clock to get CD ready 180 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: for Week one against the Browns. 181 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: So what is the plan moving forward? What does this 182 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: mean to. 183 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: This Cowboys team that's got high aspirations to finally know 184 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: officially they got CD back in the full. 185 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 7: Deadlines mcdill's Stephen Jones says it all of the time, 186 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 7: and this is one of those triggering weeks when you 187 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 7: consider they've got to make cuts to the roster, and 188 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 7: when you look at what they had out at training camp, 189 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 7: it was always inevitable that they were going to get 190 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 7: this thing done. So he's been away from the team 191 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 7: for three months now. He's been training a lot in 192 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 7: Houston with his uncle. He's been down in South Florida 193 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 7: working out with doctor Sharif Taba otherwise known as Doctor Reef. 194 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 7: They've been working on things like film sessions on field work, explosiveness, stability, 195 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 7: dealing with release, dynamic timing, reads and coverages. All that 196 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 7: to say, he's been putting in the work this offseason. 197 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 7: I talked to a couple of people in the building. 198 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 7: I said, what's the next plan as. 199 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 8: You ramp them up? 200 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 7: Well, there's been some minor adjustments to the terminology as 201 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 7: it relates to the offense. No one's worried about whether 202 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 7: he's going to get up to speed or not. One 203 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 7: person telling me he's about as smart as they come 204 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 7: when it comes to knowing this playbook. Mike McCarthy, Aside 205 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 7: from the clip that you shared earlier, guys, you know 206 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 7: the words he used was relief and exciting to get 207 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 7: him back in the building. The biggest thing with him is, 208 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 7: obviously you've just given this huge deal. You want to 209 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 7: make sure that you don't have any soft tissue injuries. 210 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 7: It's very different than when you're trading by yourself or 211 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 7: you're working out in the sand. This is sort of 212 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 7: that real game temp But we talked about this on Friday, 213 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 7: very similar to what they did with Ezekiel Elliott, who 214 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 7: by the way, had an even shorter amount of time. 215 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 7: When he signed it was September fourth, and then he 216 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 7: played in a game on September night. Scored in that game, 217 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 7: was fine. He was in a bit of a pitch count. 218 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy says. The big thing is you just want 219 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 7: to make sure that CD's not doing too much. He 220 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 7: loves to run, loves to go hard. His focus on 221 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 7: is making sure he doesn't do too much, but I 222 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 7: don't anticipate that we're really going to see too many 223 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 7: limitations based on some of the work that he's done 224 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 7: this offseason. 225 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: Thirteen days away, it's the Cowboys, it's the Browns, it's 226 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady on the call and wild guests. Jane Slater 227 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: might be in Cleveland as well. Jane, thank you very much. 228 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: As always, we will look forward to talking with you 229 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: again soon. Okay, we mentioned some of those other wide 230 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: receivers still waiting for deals. 231 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase is on that list. 232 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: One key difference with Chase is that he's got two 233 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: years remaining on his rookie contract. 234 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: The math is a little bit different. 235 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Another key difference, Jamark Chase has been there throughout the 236 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: course of training camp. He's been a hold in, not 237 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: a holdout, and that appears to be ending with him 238 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: getting back on the practice field starting on Sunday, when 239 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: for the first time since training camp began, he was 240 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: a full participant. So ian the question still remains here, 241 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: when potentially could we see a Jamar Chase contract and 242 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: what impact, if any, is of CD's deal getting done 243 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: with Dallas. 244 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: We'll start with the first part. 245 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 5: The Bengals and Jamar Chase's agent, Rocky Arsenal are still negotiating, 246 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 5: still trying to work out. 247 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: A long term deal. 248 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: As Mike Brown has said, it is a challenge, a 249 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 5: big time challenge, mostly because it's early and the expenditure 250 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 5: for the Bengals would be massive, But it is still possible. 251 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 5: They're working and the landscape of the receiver deals got 252 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 5: much more cleanly defined, clearly defined with this Cede Lamb deal. 253 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 5: You can't argue that Justin Jefferson's thirty five million dollars 254 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 5: per year was an anomaly. Cede Lamb, who's also awesome, 255 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 5: came in right below it. Jamar Chase, of course, is 256 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 5: going to want to come in at or one cent 257 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 5: above his good friend Justin Jefferson. So the landscape is 258 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 5: there to do a deal. They do have some time 259 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 5: to make it happen, though, And look, the fact that 260 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 5: he has been practicing, I think is at least a 261 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 5: good sign. It does give an indication that he'll probably 262 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 5: be on the field when this season starts. But the 263 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 5: two sides are simply trying to get there, and we 264 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 5: just don't know whether or not that's going to happen. 265 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: When I say that, the math is different too. 266 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: When you get two years left, it's really a matter 267 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: of these extensions are on top of what you got 268 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: left on your rookie deal, right, What's hard to move 269 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: enough cash up in the deal that the numbers actually 270 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: look right on paper here. In other words, a thirty 271 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: five million dollars year extension for Jamar Chase really add 272 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: up differently than a thirty five million dollar year extension 273 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: for Justin Jefferson. Could be next year, but the Bengals 274 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: have been open to a deal. We'll see if they're 275 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: able to push that thing forward. Brandon Ayuk, of course 276 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: you might have heard a little bit about this, and 277 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: though I don't know, the past six months, still looking 278 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: for a new contract as well. He was at the 279 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: forty nine ers preseason game against the Raiders. He was not, 280 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: as multiple league executives point out to me, wearing team 281 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: gear on the sideline, which is something that you're supposed 282 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: to do. There have been a lot of twists and 283 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: turns in this, Mike, tell me where we stand right 284 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: now with Ayuk, the forty nine Ers, and god knows 285 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: who else. 286 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, the traveling to the game, the other night felt 287 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: like some kind of show of good faith on Brandon 288 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: Ayuck's part. And I've been saying that the sides have 289 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: been relatively close on the forty nine ers last offer 290 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: and just nobody moving as they're really that close to 291 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: getting something done and we're still kind of there. The 292 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: offer hasn't changed since I believe it's two and a 293 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: half weeks or so since the forty nine Ers made 294 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 4: that offer, But this past weekend sort of felt like 295 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 4: somewhat of a reset. And I don't know how many 296 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: resets this is. I mean, I haven't seen this many 297 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: resets since it involved blowing into a Nintendo cartridge. But 298 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: we're getting closer to the start of the season, and 299 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: thank you, I think that was a compliment. We're getting 300 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: close to the start of the season here. So at 301 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 4: some point, is it going to be staying in San Francisco? 302 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: Is it going to be a trade to the Steelers? 303 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: Is it going to be a trade to another team? 304 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 4: Remember there were other teams involved way back. Can they 305 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 4: circle back and try that route again? And all this 306 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 4: stuff has been discussed by understanding, according to the sources 307 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 4: in that forty nine Ers building. 308 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: So it's getting close to. 309 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 4: Nut cutting time, and one option on the table is 310 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: for Brandon I used to play out the last year 311 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: of his contract. That doesn't seem to work for anything. 312 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 4: I just don't feel like that's a good solution for anybody. 313 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: So if we get to that point, this saga is 314 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: going to continue into the regular season. Auks do about 315 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: fourteen million dollars. Obviously the forty nine ers at any 316 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: point could say, hey, you're coming back and playing on that. 317 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: You could also have the right to say I'm willing 318 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: to give up close to a million dollars a week 319 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: at least up until the middle of the season, where 320 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: he'd have to prevent his contract being from being told. 321 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: One guy, we do know where he's headed. 322 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster quickly finding a new team, which also 323 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: happens to be his own team back with the Kansas 324 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, who was actually already out there on the 325 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: practice field earlier today. 326 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: Some interesting decisions for the Chiefs to make. 327 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: With that wide receiver room, but with Juju they got 328 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: somebody they know already has the chemistry with their quarterback 329 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. 330 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: The NFL is back with four days a foot ball. 331 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: When the twenty twenty four season begins put the Baltimore 332 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: Ravens against. 333 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: The aforementioned Kansas City Chiefs. 334 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Watch live September fifth, seven thirty pm Eastern Time on NBC. 335 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: It's NFL Kickoff, presented by U two Team V. 336 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: We don't want to see Mahomes. We don't see Lamar 337 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: Jackson in week one. 338 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: Well we see Russell Wilson or potentially will we see 339 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: justin Field. 340 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin has still not said for certain. 341 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: We'll get into why and what might play out here 342 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: in the coming days right after this, as The Insiders 343 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: rolls on. Every time we think we know what direction 344 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to go with their starting quarterback, 345 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: there's some type of little twist there. Night it was 346 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett banging up his shoulder and Drot Mayo said 347 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: he was actually fine. The plan was to hold him 348 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: out after only one series, which seems like what you 349 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: do with the starter, not a guy who's competing with 350 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: Drake may Here's a little bit more of what may 351 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: has had to say over the past couple of days. 352 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: Would Drake may play if Jacobi's not available? 353 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 9: Uh, I would like to see here and say one 354 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 9: hundred percent he's our second best quarterback on our Russer 355 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 9: right now? 356 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: Is that yes? Or next question? 357 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 9: I'm not sure. I'm not sure until until I West 358 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 9: of Fame. You know, he's climbing the ranks and to 359 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 9: Kobe having a better overall command of the operation. But 360 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 9: who knows. They may change. And you know, we said 361 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 9: it all along, we had one A and one B. 362 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 9: It's a competition. That's definitely a huge conversation here over 363 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 9: the next couple of days of how we want to 364 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 9: approach it. I would say, you know, we came into 365 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 9: the preseason with the plan for Drake. You know, he's 366 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 9: a you know, number three overall picks, so you know, uh, 367 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 9: the expectations and things like that are high, and the 368 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 9: pressure from the outside, from the fans and from the 369 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 9: media will be to put Drake in. But you know, 370 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 9: after speaking with a VP and Eliott, we feel we 371 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 9: still feel confident about the plan we have for Drake. 372 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pella, Sero Rapport, Mike Garafollo. 373 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: We don't have as much of a track record on 374 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: Drod Mayo quotes Ian in terms of I think we 375 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: all had kind of a Belichick. 376 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: Translator through the years. 377 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: You can bring it into the various grunts and non 378 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: answers and things like that. When you hear girod Mayo 379 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 1: after the game say break's our second best quarterback, then 380 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: today say Drake is outplayed Jacoby Brissette. I still get 381 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: the impression that basically they're saying, hey, even though one 382 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: guy looked really good, we can't put him out there 383 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: right now with this team. 384 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: Let's put Jacoby out there. 385 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: What do you make of what you've heard and seen 386 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: about New England's decision? 387 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 5: First of all, listening to Drodmeo, it's clear there is 388 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: no firm decision yet, which is okay, there doesn't have 389 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 5: to be obviously this week you would think one would come, 390 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 5: but no firm decision yet. And it really is a 391 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 5: multifaceted decision. It's simply not okay, who throws the ball? Well, 392 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 5: who played better in the last game? You know, then 393 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 5: you'd say, okay, we'll cool, Drake may get on out there, 394 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 5: go play. It is also having a veteran who could 395 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 5: come in and withstand all the different things that come 396 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 5: in an NFL game. Is the offensive line good enough 397 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 5: to block for someone who mightn't take a split second, 398 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 5: more in making decisions with Obviously Drake may is a 399 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 5: good athlete. You want to put a rookie quarterback who 400 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 5: you're really really high hopes for, You want to put 401 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 5: him out in a position to have some success. Is 402 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 5: this Patriots team right now in a position to have success? 403 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 5: The answer is, I have no idea, But I don't 404 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 5: know that anyone else does either. Because it's the preseason, 405 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 5: there's so many questions. I think that's why you get 406 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 5: these sort of non answers or half answers from Jid Mayel, 407 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 5: because a lot of this really is up in the 408 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 5: air now. I would also say that when we talked 409 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 5: to Jacoby versaid, and he's said this publicly several times, 410 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 5: he believes he is the starter. He was brought here 411 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 5: to be the starter. There's nothing wrong with having the 412 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 5: first round quarterback. Just take a deep breath and wait. 413 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 5: And I would finally add this mic everything we have 414 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 5: seen from Drake May the last couple weeks. The Patriots 415 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 5: have been excited about him all camp. I know there 416 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 5: was some sort of narrative like they've been excited about 417 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 5: him all camp. It's just a matter of when he 418 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 5: actually gets out there. 419 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 6: Well, he in the control room. Please leave him up 420 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 6: for this. 421 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: It's getting close to nut cutting time, which according to 422 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: wictionary dot org, which is not the best source, but 423 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 4: trust me, this is true. Means quote the optimal time 424 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 4: to gather nuts before they are seized by other animals 425 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 4: or buried in the snow. No, the last block in 426 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 4: this block. Understand that that's what nuts about. But I 427 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: would say this to Girodmeo. Fine, you know, in relation 428 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 4: to what you said with regard to the offensive line 429 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 4: and everything around him and all that stuff, there was 430 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 4: a fumbled bubbled snap there that he picked up and 431 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 4: was able to kind of still make. 432 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 6: A play there. 433 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: There was a third and fourteen where he scrambled for 434 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 4: seventeen yards when nobody was open. 435 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: There was a play where he lost his shoe last night. 436 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: The shoe came off, still completed a pass. Like Drake May, 437 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 4: who is a cool customer if you've been with him 438 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: through the draft process, like I'd been with him a 439 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: couple of times and talked to him, and yeah, I 440 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: got him. But as your quarterback, as a head coach 441 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: and you see all this going on, you know, maybe 442 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: he's got more resilience than the average rookie. 443 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: That's all I would say, is anything good ever come 444 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: from somebody's shoe coming off? 445 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 6: Like? 446 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 1: All I can think back was, you know herschel Walker 447 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: lost the shoe one of his first games with the 448 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Vikings that obviously ended poorly here. I don't know if 449 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: that's a harbinger of bad things to come. 450 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 6: I would say it was. It was a hall of fame. 451 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: I think we're not a hall of fame career because 452 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: I think he was in the Black Sox again. But 453 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 4: Joe Jackson, right, and then a movie came of it, 454 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: a really good movie, Feel the Dreams. 455 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't it great for Joe Jackson? But he met out. Anyway, 456 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: we're way off topic here, all right. How about this? 457 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 2: We had another team that does not yet have a 458 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: starting quarterback named You might have heard about this one too. 459 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: It's in Pittsburgh, Russell Wilson justin fields. They have proceeded 460 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: in terms of the reps as if Russell Wilson is 461 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: the guy. He only played one series through three passes 462 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: the other night. And yet here we stand allot a 463 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: firm answer from Mike Common, who's says that he is 464 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: going to wait untiled the end of this week as 465 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: we welcome in our friend Bridget Condon to the conversation. Bridgie, 466 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: you were at that game the other day against the Lions. 467 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: It was a very brief and actually pretty effective in 468 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: terms of the offense outing for Russell Wilson Justin Fields. 469 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: We saw some of the dynamic movement skills he has. 470 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: We also saw I yet another botch exchange. What do 471 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: you make of where we stand right now in terms 472 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: of how Pitchburg's looking at that QB position? 473 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 8: Well, Tom, you mentioned it. 474 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 10: Mike Tomlin said after that game, We're going to wait 475 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 10: until the end of this work week, so they're going 476 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 10: to have three days this week of Steelers on Steelers. 477 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 10: He said, why not do that and then we'll make 478 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 10: a decision. But all eyes really are pointing towards Russell 479 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 10: Wilson being the starter Week one against the Falcons. But 480 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 10: let's have some fun, right Why not compare the two 481 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 10: quarterbacks to this preseason. Justin Fields had eleven drives whereas 482 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 10: Russell Wilson had just six drives. They have a very 483 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 10: similar passer rating this preseason, Russell Wilson with a ninety 484 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 10: two passer rating, Justin Fields with a ninety one point four. 485 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 10: But again, this is the difference, right. You kind of 486 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 10: mentioned it coming to me off that toss. Russell Wilson 487 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 10: was in the game, led the team to a touchdown 488 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 10: in his first drive, then was pulled out of there. 489 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: Justin Fields did the same thing. He led the team 490 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: to a. 491 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 10: Touchdown on the first drive of that game against the Lions. 492 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 10: The difference he stayed in for another two drives. It 493 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 10: looks like Russell Wilson is their quarterback one, right, That's 494 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 10: what you do in the preseason. You get your quarterback 495 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 10: in there, let him score a touchdown, get a little rhythm, 496 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 10: and then pull him out of there. But it's going 497 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 10: to be interesting to see what they do come the 498 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 10: end of this week. All eyes again pointing towards Russell Wilson. 499 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 10: Some of the conversations I had at that game on Saturday, 500 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 10: that's the sense I got to. It felt like, yeah, 501 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 10: there was a little bit of concern with a calf injury, 502 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 10: but once he got back out there and was able 503 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 10: to do everything, there was no limits in terms of 504 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 10: scheme for him in the game. It felt like because 505 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 10: of his experience. Again, look, he's entering his thirteenth season 506 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 10: in the league. Justin Fields, just his fourth season, it 507 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 10: felt like he always had the edge over fields. But 508 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 10: that's not to say at some point this season that 509 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 10: we won't see Justin Fields in there as QB one 510 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 10: for the Steelers. 511 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 5: I think that's also evident, Bridget is that this is 512 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 5: a team that's gonna have to play defense, and I 513 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 5: think the defense is gonna be pretty nasty. They're gonna 514 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 5: have to run the ball to We know they have 515 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 5: Naji Harris Jalen Warren dealing with the hamstring injury the 516 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 5: last several weeks. It sounds like there's some optimism there 517 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 5: that he gets back week one. That's what he's told 518 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 5: reporters today. We'll see, but that at least is a 519 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 5: good sign that that is what he believes. So being 520 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 5: full go offensive line and run games certainly something that 521 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 5: will help. And Bridget, That's not the only good running 522 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 5: back news we got today. I'm talking specifically about the 523 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 5: Lions budting star Jamier Gibbs. 524 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 10: What do we know there, Yeah, he was back on 525 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 10: the practice field just to walk through today. But the 526 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 10: Lions got a lot of guys back. As we inch 527 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 10: closer to Week one against the Rams. Sam Laporta, their 528 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 10: tight end, was also back and a big boost on defense. 529 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 10: Dj Reader was taking off the pup list. In terms 530 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 10: of if he'll play week one, that's not been ruled out. 531 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 10: Dan Campbell says they're getting week two against the Bucks 532 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 10: for his return, but they're going to see how he 533 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 10: does over the next couple weeks before making a decision 534 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 10: on when he'll be back. But Dan Campbell is saying 535 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 10: today this is going to be a tough couple hours 536 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 10: for them until cut down day tomorrow when they try 537 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 10: to get to that fifty three one position. That's really 538 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 10: interesting that you guys, I'm sure have been talking about 539 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 10: keep your eyes on, is that wide receiver number three 540 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 10: position behind Amen Ross, Saint Brown and Jamison Williams. 541 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: Josh Reynolds. 542 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 10: Remember how big he was for this team, both in 543 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 10: terms of size at six to three, but also you 544 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 10: know what he did on the field. He was their 545 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 10: best deep threat. They have a couple players that are 546 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 10: in contention for that. Donathan people Jones is one of them, 547 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 10: and also de Reese Fountain, both big guys at six ' 548 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 10: to two, but also this undrafted rookie. Have you guys 549 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 10: heard of him? Isaiah Williams, He's making a name for 550 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 10: himself this preseason for the Lions. He's just five ' 551 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 10: ten though, and Dan Campbell says they'd love to have 552 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 10: that size, you know, for the wide receiver room. But 553 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 10: it feels like Isaiah Williams has done a ton this 554 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 10: preseason and might just have made a spot for himself 555 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 10: on this roster. 556 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: I don't know if we know. 557 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: If we know Brad Holmes, he also know he's going 558 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: to be on the phone potentially adding to that room 559 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: among other places as we go through these next several days. Bridget, 560 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Talk to you again soon here 561 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: back in the top story coming up after this, Ceedee, 562 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: Lamb got a big old bag of money. So what's 563 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: next for the Cowboys? Yes, it turns out there actually 564 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: are other people on the team. Jane Slater will be 565 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: back to break it all down. 566 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: Coming up right. 567 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 11: After this on The Insiders, Back to Thriller lets him 568 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 11: from the safety spot, and Pruscott of states that lunch 569 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 11: to his life, throws on the. 570 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: Run the middle of. 571 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 12: The Atlantica fifty. You want to get anywhere near him, 572 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 12: Lamb crawl if we wanted to CD Lamb, Lady who 573 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 12: yours well, get guest out for the Dallas touchdown. 574 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: Pay the man already pay? 575 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 6: Oh they did, They did pay the man. 576 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: Case you missed it earlier, Ceedee Lamb and the Cowboys 577 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: agreeing to a four year, one hundred and thirty six 578 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 4: million dollar extension with one hundred million dollars guaranteed. 579 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 6: So he is back in plenty of time to. 580 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 4: Practice and get ridy fur week one as a member 581 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 4: of the Dallas Cowboys. Jane Slater, get back in here. 582 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 4: We talked CD earlier. That's the good news. Let's talk 583 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 4: a little bad news because we you know, we tackled 584 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 4: the good and the bad here on the Insiders, And 585 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 4: let's talk about Deron Bland. The Cowboys losing one of 586 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 4: their big defensive playmakers. 587 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a tough one. You know. Earlier in 588 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 7: camp they lost Sam Williams, and granted they were able 589 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 7: to go out and get some help there at defensive end. 590 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 7: And they also have their rookie Marshawn neland they are 591 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 7: going to once again be calling on a rookie to 592 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 7: help out here. Mike Dearn Bland. 593 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: For the fans that. 594 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 7: May not have been familiar with them, very saft spoken, 595 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 7: but he let us play do all the work. Nine interceptions, 596 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 7: five of those returned for touchdowns. Last year, he really 597 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 7: stepped up when remember Trey Vaughn Diggs went down last 598 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 7: year with an ACL injury in early September. So Mike 599 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 7: Zimmer was sitting here thinking he had an. 600 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: Embarrassment of riches. And now you need a rookie to 601 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: step up here. 602 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 7: Kaylin Carson, the rookie that they're going to be turning to. 603 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: Who is he? 604 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 7: He has a fifth round pick out of wake Forest. 605 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 7: Now I asked around one of your thoughts on him. 606 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 7: Super competitive, quick learner, tough, he will tackle, he won't 607 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 7: back down from a challenge. But you know, in order 608 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 7: to impact the run game and provide pressure, you need 609 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 7: two good corners. And so the question here is do 610 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 7: they have that I've been reaching out to see if 611 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 7: you know, you've got a couple of free agents out there, 612 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 7: guys like Patrick Peterson, You've got Eli Apple. It doesn't 613 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 7: look like they've got those guys in coming in just yet, 614 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 7: but they've been known to surprise us. The Dalvin Cook 615 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 7: thing happening today him coming to Dallas, got that confirmed 616 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 7: along with Tom Pilisaro that he will be doing a workout. 617 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 7: So looks like Jerry Jones is flexing out there, as 618 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 7: he did in a profanity laced interview with our boy 619 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 7: Clarence Hill, telling us what a good GM is. So 620 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 7: he is scanning the rosters in the waiver wires, see 621 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 7: what's out there. We'll see if they do something at corner. 622 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 7: But looks like they're right now going to be looking 623 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 7: to the rookie about. 624 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 6: Six to eight weeks from now. 625 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 4: Even on the back end of that, you're looking at 626 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: mid October, so they would have bland back potentially before Halloween. 627 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 4: So the Cowboys may be thinking we've got enough in 628 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: house to get us to that point. 629 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 6: We shall see what tack they take. 630 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: Thank you, Jane Tom. 631 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: A lot of moves out being around the NFL. Not 632 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: all cuts good news, bad news for the Browns. No surprise, 633 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb going to remain on the physically unable to 634 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: perform lists. 635 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: Coming back from that e injury. 636 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: The Browns always knew was not going to be there 637 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: in September, but there is hope that as we get 638 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: into October and November, we'll see Chubb back on the field. 639 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: Little good news Jack Coughlin Jedrick Wilson are starting tackles, 640 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: both past their physicals off the pup list today. Be 641 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: while for the Rams they got Pooking the core back 642 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 1: in the mix, so at least going out there and 643 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: doing some individual drills. He had been sidelined because he 644 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: went down awkwardly, even with a knee issue. Sean mcfado 645 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: had said that it was only going to be a 646 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: couple of weeks at that time. Full expectation, I in 647 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: the Puka is ready to roll a couple week one. 648 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 5: Not a similar sitching for Uchenna Nuoshu, the Seahawks standout 649 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 5: ed really not a household name, but he is a baller. 650 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: Nasally been having a great, great training. Kip sources that 651 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: he is going to miss. 652 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 5: Multiple weeks with a knee injury that he suffered on 653 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 5: Saturday night. 654 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: Could actually begin the season on. 655 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 5: IR That is one of the reasons they traded earlier 656 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 5: today for Trevis Gibson from the Jaguars, and. 657 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: Then we had a quarterback tree. 658 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 5: Malik Willis, the former backup quarterback for the Tennessee dun 659 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 5: was probably exlated to be certainly was slated to be 660 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 5: their third rounder with Mason Rupe coming in and playing 661 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 5: really well. 662 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: He is headed to the Green Bay Packers, likely to 663 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: be their backup. 664 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 5: That is a fresh start. Leak willis a really good situation. 665 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 5: The fact that he gets a backup his good friend 666 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 5: Jordan Loves surely something that will help kickstart his career. 667 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 5: You want to talk about quarterbacks, let's talk about quarterbacks. 668 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers and Deshaun Watson. Both awesome quarterbacks, both highly productive. 669 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 5: Both didn't do you know anything in the pre season. 670 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 5: Is that going to matter in the regular season? If 671 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 5: only Steve Weisch was available to ask, where is Steve Weisch? 672 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: It's coming up. 673 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: It's the biggest NFL fantasy season ever, and NFL Fantasy 674 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: Live has all the info you need to dominate your league. 675 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: Line of advice to waiver wire, targets and sleepers to 676 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: watch out for. 677 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: Our experts have all your fantasy needs. 678 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: Cover NFL Fantasy Live weekdays at six pm Eastern Time 679 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: only on NFL Network. Or if sometimes you don't have 680 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: time to watch the show, you get this text Michael 681 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: lef Florio directly, which is what I was doing right 682 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: before a draft I had last weekend. Welcome back to 683 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: the Insiders. It's Tom Beelisero Revort, Mike Garafollo. Let's bring 684 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: up here. 685 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: I sent this to you if I had text Michael left. 686 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: But there were a lot of names. 687 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 8: I'm right in the middle there. 688 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm listening is Tommy, Uh, what do you think of 689 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: this draft? Because in the middle rounds you gave me 690 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: all stuff that you said on the show last week 691 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: I should do. 692 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 693 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 8: So it's hard for me to make out the exact names, 694 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 8: but I remember on it was like Friday or Saturday, 695 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 8: you had texted. 696 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 6: It to me. 697 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 13: I remember going over it and being like, I really 698 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 13: like this team and ranted. 699 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 8: A lot of it is because there's players I like. 700 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 9: But I remember you got you. 701 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 8: Got Josh Allen with a couple of bills back there. 702 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: I look, I thought you came. 703 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 8: Away from a great team with a great team. 704 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 13: I don't think, like I said, about either of Mike's teams. 705 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 13: I've yet to see anything that they have drafted. But Tom, 706 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 13: you did a good job this weekend. 707 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so take that to the AI thing that grated 708 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: my draft as a D plus. 709 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: We'll see about that as we think out later in 710 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: the season. 711 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: All right, Florio, you're here, for a more important reason 712 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: than that. I think a fantasy hot take from me. 713 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: There's still a lot of drafts going on around the country. 714 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: Give me something that you think that nobody else is 715 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: thinking as they get ready to draft. 716 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 8: I got through freeing Tom the first. 717 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 13: I think Trey McBride is going to be you tight 718 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 13: end run in. 719 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 8: Fantasy football this year. No tight end is going to 720 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 8: score four points than Trey McBride. 721 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: I know it sounds like a hot take. 722 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 13: Last year with Kyler Murray, he was the tight end 723 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 13: one in fantasy points per game and in target share, 724 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 13: and of all the top tight ends from last season, 725 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 13: he had the fewest percentage of his fantasy. 726 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: Points come from touchdowns. 727 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 13: I think this offense is going to be better with 728 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 13: a healthy Kyler Murray, which should just lead to more 729 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 13: scoring opportunities for McBride. 730 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 8: I don't worry about Marvin Harrison or anything like that. 731 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 13: And then I think Isaiah Pacheco is going to finish 732 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 13: as a top four fantasy running back this year. 733 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 8: People might even hurt me, say this a right. 734 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 13: This is gonna be the take of mine this summer 735 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 13: that I think gets most remembered for. So check out 736 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 13: already dominates groundwork in Kansas City, especially near the goal line, 737 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 13: but he's got a really thin RB room there. 738 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 8: I think he's going to be a three. 739 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 13: Down back and I think the Chiefs might be three 740 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 13: best offense in football. 741 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: So at three down back on. 742 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 8: The best offensive football with Andy Reid. Yeah, it seems 743 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 8: like a hot take now come January. I don't think 744 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 8: it will. 745 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: That was like six hot takes. 746 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 5: But it's our pretty flamming I appreciate you putting yourself 747 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 5: out there. Why don't you tell us as I continue 748 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 5: to get ready for my fantasy draft on Monday, once 749 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 5: you give us a couple fringe first rounders that you like. 750 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 13: Ruka Nakua is a player that last season I pounded 751 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 13: the table for all summer and we all know really 752 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 13: went on to. 753 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 8: Post rookie records and catches and yards. 754 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 13: He won a bunch of people their fantasy championship that 755 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 13: I will say. I'm a little bit nervous this year 756 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 13: having to pay full price. 757 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 8: It's like when I was younger, I always. 758 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 13: Went to this bar and I had fifty cent win 759 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 13: and then I wrote there on a regular night and 760 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 13: they wanted like twenty bucks for ten wings and I. 761 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: Was like, I don't want to pay that price. 762 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 8: That's kind of how I feel right now. 763 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 13: With Puka, but he's fallen to around two in a 764 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 13: couple of my drafts and I love getting him there. 765 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: And then Jonathan Taylor. 766 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 13: I'd have been a Jonathan Taylor fan since his Wisconsin days, 767 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 13: and I'm not stopping now. I get the concerns Anthony 768 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 13: Richardson maybe could vulture a couple of touchdowns away. 769 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 8: Maybe he's not going to throw the ball to Taylor 770 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 8: as much, but those two running the option should be 771 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 8: a ton. 772 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 13: Of fun, should lead to a lot of big plays 773 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 13: for Taylor. 774 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 8: And he has been in RB one in points per 775 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 8: game in all but one. 776 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 13: Of his NFL season, so I think with a running 777 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 13: quarterback we could potentially see even more upside. 778 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 2: Out of him. 779 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 4: All right, backing out Florida, there's a reason you haven't 780 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 4: seen my fantasy team. 781 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 6: I haven't had my draft yet. 782 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 4: It is Tuesday, this coming Tuesday, not tomorrow the next Tuesday. 783 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: Nice and my. 784 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 4: Seven pm Eastern, which is when this program now. A 785 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 4: lesser man, a lesser man would probably take off. 786 00:34:59,560 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm not. 787 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna work my way. I'm going to draft live 788 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 4: daed roll back. We don't have the graphic. We are 789 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 4: gonna draft live on Tuesday. Would you like to join 790 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 4: and help me and be a phone a friend and 791 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 4: be a ringer here? Yes, you would, Florio ignat with 792 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 4: us on Tuesday. You're gonna help me draft my team. 793 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 4: You got to tune in for that. See if I 794 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 4: can focus on anything other than my draft during the show. 795 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 4: Speaking of focus, time for me to focus on the question, 796 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 4: I have to ask you, which is a rookie that 797 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 4: you believe will be the first off the board? 798 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 13: First, good luck to you because doing a show and 799 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 13: drafting is not easy, and you're not even doing a 800 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 13: fantasy show. 801 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 8: So good luck Mike. But warmn Harrison Junior, first wide 802 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 8: receiver off the board. 803 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 2: You've heard his name for years. 804 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 8: He is finally here. He is a great field stretcher. 805 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 13: I think he's going to be the Cardinals number one 806 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 13: red zone. 807 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 2: Option from day one. 808 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 13: And those two things are huge because long catches and 809 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 13: touchdowns is how wide receivers score points. 810 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: In chunks. 811 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 13: We have seen Kyler Murray already support a wide receiver 812 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 13: one in his career. I have Harrison ranked as a 813 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 13: wide receiver one, but you get him in round two, 814 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 13: and then the second rookie off the board is Malik Neighbors. 815 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 13: He continues to climb up and up and up draft boards, 816 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 13: but you could still get him in the fourth round. 817 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: In a lot of drafts. 818 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 13: He was my wide receiver one actually throughout the NFL 819 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 13: draft process because. 820 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: He can do everything. 821 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 13: He could stretch the fields, he could win after the catch, 822 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 13: he could win in the red zone. 823 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 8: He is a future star in this league. 824 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 13: And I know people have concerns about his quarterback, but 825 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 13: he is going to be the focal point. 826 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: Of this offense. 827 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 13: Nine to ten targets a week is in play, and 828 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 13: with his talent, that is someone that you want on 829 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 13: your rosters. 830 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: Michael, thank you very much for being here. 831 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: And I think it's actually illegal if you join Mike 832 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: on during rout next week, Lee's league may not be 833 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: overly thrilled. Weekday six, Fan Eastern Time Fantasy Live. He's 834 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: not being there, Mikey, thank you very much. We'll look 835 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: forward to talking with you again next week. A lot 836 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: more to come tomorrow be here, We'll see it