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Speaker 1: Brought to you by the all New Toyota Corolla. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles

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Speaker 1: w Chuck Bryant, and Jerry's over there, so it's stuff

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Speaker 1: you should have. Okay, I'm not gonna sing that song

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Speaker 1: what Werewolves in London? Oh that's not what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: What was up? Woman? No, it's an American werewolf in

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Speaker 1: London Werewolves of Londman by Warren z Evon. I never

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Speaker 1: get it into him me, neither or that song. Um.

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Speaker 1: I thought when I was young, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's for old people. And now I'm an old person,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, not for me. For you, You're like,

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Speaker 1: give me the band. Oh yeah, any day. So you

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Speaker 1: want to talk werewolves, You've got a good intro. You

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Speaker 1: got some spicy No. Um, I was bored, just gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about some of my face evorite werewolf movies. Well

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Speaker 1: we just talked about my favorite American werewolf in London.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty tough to top that one. It's great and

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Speaker 1: I watched the transformation scene again today and it still

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Speaker 1: holds up pretty well. In the day of c g U.

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Speaker 1: I think this looks pretty good. It was direct that's

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Speaker 1: John Landis joint, right, Yeah, and the legendary Rick Baker

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Speaker 1: did all the effects, you know. And that's the same team,

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Speaker 1: by the way, who worked on Michael Jackson's thriller video. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: his transformation was pretty good too. It was good, and

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Speaker 1: I think Rick Baker won. Rick Baker won the inaugural

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Speaker 1: Makeup Award Oscar Award that year, the very first one,

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Speaker 1: and some say they might have even created that award

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Speaker 1: because of that movie. It's like the Grammy for the disco. Alright,

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Speaker 1: remember the one year, the one and only year they

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Speaker 1: I don't remember that. That's pretty funny. Um. There's also

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Speaker 1: did you have you ever seen that Mystery Science Feeders

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Speaker 1: three thousand Werewolf starring um Joe Estaves, who's Martin Sheen's brother.

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Speaker 1: Really good stuff. That one's definitely worth seeing. It's it's

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Speaker 1: really there's people. I don't think anything's in Arizona, but

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Speaker 1: if Tommy Wasao had directed a werewolf movie. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot like that. Um, And then there's another MST three

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Speaker 1: K that was good. It was I was a teenage

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Speaker 1: werewolf Michael Landon. So these aren't your favorite worwolf movies?

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Speaker 1: So your favorite, right? Yeah? Because if I saw him

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Speaker 1: without the mister side of theater applied, it would stink.

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Speaker 1: Who can forget teen Wolf? That was a good one too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a TV show, didn't it? Or was for a while.

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Speaker 1: There's a cartoon and then now I think it's like

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Speaker 1: a drama on MTV. Oh, it's not like the silly

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Speaker 1: hidjinks of a Michael J. Fox type. No. I think

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Speaker 1: it's like supposed to be kind of like true Blood,

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Speaker 1: but it's like teenagers. Yeah. Have you seen that Michael J.

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Speaker 1: and I thought, let me check it out. It just no,

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Speaker 1: all be family Ties or Team Wolf things? Is right?

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Speaker 1: Team off? The cartoon that's right. Uh, but yeah, that

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Speaker 1: What about The wolf Man? Uh? Sure? Or or uh

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Speaker 1: like the Howling. Wouldn't that a werewolf movie? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But anyway, the Wolfman not the Jack Nicholson version, the

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Speaker 1: classic old version, right. Uh? He did wolf? Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: but I have not seen that one, So I wonder

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Speaker 1: if it's based on this this movie. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: And then of course this is just the wolfman there

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Speaker 1: were there were It was based on folklore, which we'll

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Speaker 1: get into now that had all kinds of different rules. Right.

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Speaker 1: But the many many years before people have been writing

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Speaker 1: but that's definitely the most iconic, like werewolf a template. Right,

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Speaker 1: werewolves have been present in folklore for many, many millennia. UM.

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Speaker 1: It turns out the first mention of werewolves it comes

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Speaker 1: But in Gilgamesh, the goddess Ishtar who doomed Um, Warren

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Speaker 1: like canos exactly. And that's where the word comes from,

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Speaker 1: Um she makes the point that like it's so ingrained

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Speaker 1: of the funniest bullet lists and the whole site. Reason

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Speaker 1: Number one shape shifting inspire Spear is you become a

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Speaker 1: genital generalized hyper trichosis. And they're all the same family

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Speaker 1: He does look suave though he wears it well. Rabies

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Speaker 1: things plus agitated. Yeah, and if you if you think

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Speaker 1: about it, if you're just a bystandard peasant in sixteenth

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Speaker 1: and then later on that person starts acting kind of

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Speaker 1: rabies is. There's your werewolf outbreak. Uh. Wolf hybrids, um,

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Speaker 1: wolves and dogs co mingling and having the sex and making.

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Speaker 1: You can get those. You know, there's pets wolf dog hybrids,

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Speaker 1: but the same kind of deal. They attack people in

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Speaker 1: there's this really cool Atlas Obscure article about um the

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Speaker 1: beast of give a don so g E v A

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Speaker 1: but they're like supernatural wolves and they won't go away,

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Speaker 1: and all these villagers kept being killed by wolves. And

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Speaker 1: then it was the last one was actually killed by

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Speaker 1: a girl, a little shepherdess um who stabbed this charging

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Speaker 1: beast in in the chest and finally ended this like

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Speaker 1: century of wolf attacks. But it's worth reading for sure,

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Speaker 1: So let's take another little second for a message break.

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Speaker 1: Al Right, So moving on, um, as recently as the

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Speaker 1: nineteen thirties in Africa and what's now Ghana, there was

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Speaker 1: belief widespread that you could people could turn into hyenas.

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Speaker 1: So this isn't like hundreds of years ago. And as

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Speaker 1: recently as the eighties, uh, this practice in the Iberian Peninsula.

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Speaker 1: I don't really get this that there was there was

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Speaker 1: into werewolves where children would act as godparents for their

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Speaker 1: younger siblings. The seventh and ninth child against seven and

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Speaker 1: nine coming into play, so the the werewolves would basically

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Speaker 1: recruit excess children. Family had too many children, gotcha, then

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Speaker 1: the werewolves would come after those kids. So the older

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Speaker 1: siblings would be like, Okay, well you're my kid, I'm

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Speaker 1: your god parent now. So they would do that up

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Speaker 1: until the nineteen eighties. Yeah, so on paper, it shaves

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Speaker 1: off the number of kids that are right. Family technically has,

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Speaker 1: at least as far as werewolves are concerned. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were doing this until the eighties. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we mentioned not all where wolves are bad in literature

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Speaker 1: and books and films. Um, a lot of them have

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Speaker 1: compassion from the audience because you know, they're kind of

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Speaker 1: saddled with this, with this thing now that they have

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Speaker 1: to deal with. It's a struggle between higher and lower self.

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Speaker 1: You're primitive and your cidified self. But we have to

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Speaker 1: mention in the Harry Potter series, Remus Lupin has been

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Speaker 1: evalent and uh, of course Buffy the vampire slayer oz

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Speaker 1: he learned to control his uh werewolf ng so he

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Speaker 1: could be a good guy. And when Willow back, did

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Speaker 1: you watch that, Buffy? No, not really, it was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it was the greatest thing other

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Speaker 1: one like some people do. But some people are crazy

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Speaker 1: for that. Oh yeah it was huge, but yeah to

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Speaker 1: eat his song agreed, Uh, let's see you got anything else?

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Speaker 1: I got nothing else and werewolves. That was a good one.

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Speaker 1: Next full Moon watch out. Uh yeah, seriously, I haven't

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Speaker 1: even thought that. And I can't remember the last time

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Speaker 1: I looked at a full moon and thought werewolves. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been a long time. Well, they haven't had any

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Speaker 1: really good movie Like the Venici Adultur movie wasn't very good.

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Speaker 1: That Nicholson movie wasn't good. It's been a while since

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Speaker 1: they made a really good werewolf movie early. Uh. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you want to learn more about werewolves again, seeing

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Speaker 1: this really interesting bullet list, um, you can type werewolf

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Speaker 1: into the search far at how stuffworks dot com and

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Speaker 1: it will bring up this article. Uh. And since I

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Speaker 1: said search far, it means it's time for listener mail.

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Speaker 1: I am gonna call this guy dog feedback from Kate. Hey, dudes,

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Speaker 1: I'll listen to you for ages. But never really had

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Speaker 1: anything worth writing about until the Guide Dogs episode. Way

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Speaker 1: back in the day around two thousand, my fifth grade teacher,

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Speaker 1: Mrs McKernan managed to commence our public school system to

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Speaker 1: train a guy dog in her classroom. Her name was

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Speaker 1: Krrick that is k E r i C. And she

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Speaker 1: was this adorable little black lab. Mrs McKernan would bring

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Speaker 1: her to class every day and took her home every night,

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Speaker 1: And in the meantime, Kirick was not only trained on

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Speaker 1: basic commands by the teacher, but by all of the

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Speaker 1: students as well. Uh yeah, that's pretty neat. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of input for that dog. I know. Well, Karrock

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Speaker 1: didn't make it. Um Kirik went with our classroom everywhere,

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Speaker 1: including if you field trips, and she got her own

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Speaker 1: school photo for the yearbook that year. That's pretty cute,

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Speaker 1: I would put on the cover. Needless to say, we

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Speaker 1: all bawled when she was sent off to finish her training. Sadly,

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Speaker 1: she was one of the dogs that did not pass

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Speaker 1: final training. Maybe that's what to do with the thirty kids.

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Speaker 1: So this is how you sit down? You sit down

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Speaker 1: like this. No, I should mention I didn't read this part.

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Speaker 1: But she did say that they got pamphlets on like

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Speaker 1: everyone being consistent. Okay, I'm mrs kidding. You know how

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Speaker 1: I put in with you know, listener mail share. But

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Speaker 1: in Carrick's defense, she was disqualified under a really hard

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Speaker 1: test for any dog. She had to sit next to

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Speaker 1: a wheelchair while a bucket full of tennis balls were

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Speaker 1: dropped off a balcony and Salve Rubik's cue at the

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Speaker 1: same time was right and she could not grab any

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Speaker 1: of them. So that's like, that's after that. Mrs McKernan

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Speaker 1: took her back though, and officially adopted her and still

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Speaker 1: brought her into new classes occasionally. Recently Ms McKernan that

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Speaker 1: I have a really hard time and second tell where

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Speaker 1: moved schools and has had Carrot qualified under habit Human

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Speaker 1: Animal Bond and Tennessee is a therapy dog for her

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Speaker 1: new schools students. So she said it was a great

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Speaker 1: experience and um, it's worth telling your listeners that never

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Speaker 1: hurts to ask your workplace and see if they can

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Speaker 1: do something like we did. And I guess if you're

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Speaker 1: going to train a guide dog, if you want to

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Speaker 1: really get them ready for that test with all of

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Speaker 1: the tennis balls. Yes, man, that's a rough one that

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Speaker 1: is from Kate about the dogget Even ones that do

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Speaker 1: it are just like, is there bleeding out of their ears,

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Speaker 1: concentrating so hard. Kate, thank you very much for writing in.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Back in the day of two thousand,

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Speaker 1: she's uh, if you want to share a story that

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Speaker 1: makes Chuck and I feel super old, You can tweet

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