WEBVTT - Dream Requiem with Rufus Wainwright 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.440 Hi Catherine, Hi Chelsea, how are you today? 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:07.800 Doug has diarrhea lives in Canada. My friend Cynthia texted 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:10.680 me this morning saying she felt like Doug was depressed 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:13.119 when I left, and I said, I doubt it, and 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.600 then she said, I know he really misses you. And 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:17.960 then she goes, actually he hasn't eat his food all day, 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:20.080 and I go, oh my god, oh my. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.600 God, he came out of me. Fuck well. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.320 At first I thought he does love me, he does 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:25.720 love me, and then I was like, wait a second, 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:27.520 I had food poisoning, and I was like, did he 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:28.480 get food poisoning? 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:29.200 Anyway? 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:31.320 He had diaryea on her couch and on her carpet. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.080 So I was like, okay, I'll be back sooner than 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:34.960 later to get him. 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:35.720 Anyway. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.040 She I was like, we can replace all of those things, 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:43.240 we can replace her houseplace. She goes, he's so high, 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.159 he's got such energy, and I go, just put him 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.839 outside while he's sick. He's happy to stay outside and 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.760 sleep outside. He preferred so fucking hot with all that hair. 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.080 And she's like, okay, but just you know, like bears 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.600 come through the backyard and I was like, oh. I 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.960 was like well, I mean, he'll probably find his whole family. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:01.800 Those are his ancestors, you know. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:02.160 What I mean. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:02.800 It's so true. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:04.760 He is basically a bear. He is a bear. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.800 So I don't know how long he's gonna last in Canada, 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.040 but I have people. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:10.120 Long enough to come back to La. 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.240 Well, he might not get in with the fucking way 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.680 immigration is going. Who knows if they'll stop him at 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.679 the border. I mean, he is black. Who knows they'll 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:18.240 make up some. 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.880 Fucking excuse, you know what I mean? There are his papers, 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.120 I know, well, I do have his paperwork. Actually, ironically 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.400 I could. I should probably sell that to somebody. Well, 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:28.600 not sell it, give it to somebody. Listen to me. 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:30.640 I would just like to say that. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.279 It's early in the morning today and I got myself 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.759 a parking spot all by myself. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:39.400 I paid the major, I did it effectively. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:40.840 And it wasn't even in the normal place. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.200 It wasn't in a normal place. I parked up the street. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.600 We're at a studio. I went by my real house 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:47.200 this morning to check on things. There's a lot of 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:48.120 drilling going on. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.160 I was telling Brad this morning, I'm like, I don't 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.400 even know what exactly's happening at the house, I don't know. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.480 Nobody asks me anymore, and nobody should. Nobody asked me 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.920 what's going on with my house. If you're listening to 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:00.800 this and you want to rent a big house in 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.080 Los Angeles for a lot of money, hit me up 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.520 on DMS, because yeah you could. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.560 I'm gonna rent that house out great until I make. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.680 My money back, and I'll live in Whistler or Spain 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:17.040 or I don't know, Guantanamo Bay, you know where, whatever, 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.880 whatever place welcomes me exactly. 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:20.760 If people can rent that, if they're fans of yours 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.200 or RFK Junior, I mean it's great. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.320 I just yes, this is a what is it a 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:29.120 cautionary tale? Cautionary tale? 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:29.080 True? 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.600 I had one great house building experience and I got 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:37.840 very confident, over confident, and then I now have another 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.960 house building experience and I am will never ever build 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:42.800 anything again. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:43.840 Yeah. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.600 Well, speaking of Trump's cabinet, we have one of Trump's 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:48.720 favorite people. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:49.320 Cabinet. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:50.840 They shouldn'ven be called a cabinet. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.160 That's like, that's a fucking thing, that's an item you'd 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:54.639 find in my house that doesn't work. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:56.000 It's not a cabinet. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:00.000 It's like a fucking broken toaster is his cabinet? Yeah, 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.480 we have somebody who has gotten, who has had it 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.639 friction with Trump on today. He's an amazing singer, songwriter, 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.280 composer and legendary beauty. 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.040 Please welcome Rufus Wainwright. 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:16.919 Hi, good morning, Hello, Hello, Hi, oh oh hi, Rufus. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.840 Oh wow look at you. You're like me way early. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.680 Yeah yeah, no way early. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:28.239 But and for a musician, no less. I mean, this 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:29.720 is what is happening. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.720 Well, I have a fourteen year old child. 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.760 Yes, I know about that, and so you have to. 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.000 Wake up early to breastfeed. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:42.320 Yeah, yeah, I have to be on call basically twenty 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.680 four to seven for any kind of horrific situation. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:47.960 Absolutely, I understand. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.160 Yeah. Is that better? 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.320 You look very thin? You look really thin? On this 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:55.960 Is that what you said you're going for? 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.040 Well, I was more going for Marlene and Dietrich. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.640 But then we'll work well Finn and Marlene Dietrich Rufus. 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.000 First of all, well, there's a lot to talk about, Yes, 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.280 dream Requiem, which is what we're here to talk about. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.280 But first I wanted just to mention a couple of things. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.080 I know that the Trump campaign used your song Hallelujah, 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.320 your your Leonard Cohen cover Hallelujah, And you were pissed 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.760 about that, So I was curious about that too, like 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.880 obviously your agents and managers or whomever get involved, right. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:22.520 Yeah, yeah, I mean I was. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.839 I mean I was pissed, but I think above pissed, 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:31.000 I was more just sort of flabbergasted and completely you 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:36.200 know shocks in the sense that just because it was also. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.560 So weird how it was used, Like it wasn't just 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:39.560 used as. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.600 A rally, you know, ending thing where people are always 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.719 shaking hands. He turned it into this sort of you know, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:53.160 group dance flash prayer moment of you know, seeking forgiveness, and. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.480 And that just was Yeah, it was a horrified, shockedness. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.000 And then I was pissed, and then. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.000 Yeah, I'm shocked and horrified. I'm first of all, I'm 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.760 not Catholic or religious in any way, shape or form. 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.039 I'm shocked and horrified when they use any sort of 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:11.200 religious backdrop or there are people praying with him. I 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:16.280 find that so offensive to real religion, Like I might have. 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.479 I have a little bit of a scoop for you, though, 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.800 Oh great, regarding this, I don't think I've talked about 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.400 this yet, but and it's sort of out there a 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:29.719 little bit. But so that happened right and then and 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.880 then and this is before he won the election. 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.080 Uh or yeah, I guess he won the election. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:37.000 He won. 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.680 We're living in a we're living in hell. And answer 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.760 your previous question, I'm in Canada right now. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.480 I'm in Canada right now for real. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.000 I mean, well, you're Canadian. I'm trying to become Canadian. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.320 Okay, are you? Are you really in Canada where. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.760 You I'm in Whistler, Yeah. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.640 Okay, okay, we're both we're both in exile and probably 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.080 will remain so for a few years. 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.360 But but what happened is that he won. 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.559 He won the election, and then one of the first 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.520 visitors that he had was Justin Trudeau, the Prime Minister 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.080 of Canada, our ex prime minister, And so he went 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.719 down and I'd met Justin a couple of times, you know, 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:18.920 on grinder and I'm just kidding. But anyways, so then 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.440 I got a call a few days later from Justin Trudeau, 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.240 the Prime minister, telling me that he said, I guy 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:30.080 had this funny story for you, And so I answered 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.440 the phone, Yes, mister Prime minister, make me laugh. And 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.160 he said that when he was down in mar A Lago, 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:40.400 they were sitting together and at one point Hallelujah came 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.479 up on the sound system in the ballroom, but it 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.400 was it was Andrea Bucelli's version of Hallelujah the song, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.120 at which point Trump turned to Justin Trudeau and said, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:56.039 you know Rufus's version, right, and and then Justin Trudeau said, oh, yes, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.919 I know, I know Rufus's version, but you have to 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.560 give Jeff Buckley some credit because he's the first person 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.120 to cover the song, at which point I'm on the 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.400 phone with Justin Trudeau, like, wait a minute, he brought 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.080 up the Jeff Berkele like I started to get whatever. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.600 I was a bit riled internally. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.120 I also find it a bit surprising that Trump is 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:17.800 aware of different covers of that song. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:18.840 I know, no, well he is. 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:23.200 But then so then Justin said to him, yes, but 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.720 you have to give Jeff Buckley some some credit, at 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:29.119 which point Trump said, okay, well, maybe twenty minutes later, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.920 Trump walked up to Justin and said, you know, Rufus's 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:38.040 version is really the best version, at which point Justin went, yes, 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:40.000 it is the best. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.600 Version so so so in terms of like Hallelujah. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.440 Versions, I'm a total Trumpianda that's about it. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.160 Yeah, well I'm god. I mean what an endorsement. Trump 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.600 believes that yours is the best version of Halloween. Yeah 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.640 you got that, I guess. 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.160 Yeah, yeah, No, that's the Yeah. 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.560 Look, I've been seeking that for years and it's all 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.280 I've ever wanted, really is to be acknowledged as the 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.720 greatest singer of Hellelujah. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.520 Forget my operas, forget my children. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.280 So let's talk dream requiem, because I know that you have. 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.000 Jane Fonda is going to is she narrating it? Is 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:19.040 that the proper terminology? 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.800 Yes, what it is is that I many years ago 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:26.160 I discovered this amazing poem by Byron called Darkness, and 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.080 he wrote it in eighteen fourteen, which was this year 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.160 that there was this incredible insane earth not ealth quake. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.360 What's another thing that we're about to. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:42.160 Have economical volcano volcano okay, volcanic volcano that went off, 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.319 that erupted, that went off in Southeast Asia, and the 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.720 entire world was dark for a year. 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.320 There was no season, and everybody thought the world was ending. 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.520 It was the year that they wrote that. Mary Shelley 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.960 wrote Frankenstein's it was like the most kind of gothic. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.560 Oh wow, yeah, and that was eighteen fourteen. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.120 You said, yeah, it's the most got the gear except 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:07.640 for this year. We we know eclipsed that. But so 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.839 then you wrote that poem, so as I fell in 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.120 love with the point. It's all about the end of 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.560 the world and it's about like ecological collapse. And then 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.840 I was composing this requiem mass and I decided to 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.680 put them together. And I was maybe going to compose 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:26.360 the music to the English words, but English is crap, 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.000 and unless it's like rock and roll or rap, it 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.880 sounds terrible if it's sung operatically. So I quickly, you know, 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.440 shifted it and and said, oh, we'll have a narrator, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.520 which in the end has turned out to be an 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.760 amazing kind of trick. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:41.960 And I don't want to say trick. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.120 Ploy where, you know, because the premier in Paris, and 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.240 we had Meryl Streep there as the narrator, and our 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:52.200 recording is available on Warner Classics. And yeah, Jane is 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.840 doing it in La. Have you heard anything about how 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.920 she got the job? Tell us, well, I i'd look 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.400 Dan and Dane and I have I know your friends 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.640 too up? Yeah, yeah, no, I I I mean I 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.959 I'd run into her over the years here and there, 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.679 but we never quite you know, bonded. But we were 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.480 at this I had just done the Requiem in Paris 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.120 with Meryl, and we were at the Hammer Gala in 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.440 La and I went there and I was with my 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:25.880 husband and Yorn and we arrived and I saw Jane 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.520 and we kind of ended up in just the same corner. 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.800 We just started talking and it's and it started to click, 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.000 you know, we just started to give. As they say, 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:33.760 it's a give or jibe. 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:35.520 I don't know. I'm so white anyways. 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.079 I think I think it's jibe, but I'm also white. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:39.720 Who fucking knows. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.320 Okay, we were doing something cool and it was weird, 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.560 but uh so we're talking. And then I said to her, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.200 and I started talking about the Dream Requiem, and I said, 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.520 you know, we did it. We did it in Paris 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.400 with Meryl and and actually it's coming to La. We 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.400 don't have a narrator yet, but it's going to come 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.079 to Disney Hall. It's with the Master Corral and and 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.800 and at the end of that little speech, Jane turned 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:06.040 to me and she said, rufus, I'm doing it. I 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.160 was like, excuse me. She's like, no, I'm gonna, I 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.880 will do it with you. She immediately hut herself, which 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.959 I mean I was. I was overjoyed also a little shocked. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.120 And then it's just from there on. You know, we've 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.160 been hanging out a lot, and she's come to a 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.400 few of my shows and she's just so like when 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.160 she wants something or loves something. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:25.840 Yeah, she's very precious. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.240 Yeah yeah, and so I'm just I don't know, I 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.199 felt very It's been one of the great great things 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:32.960 in my life, in the midst of all of this 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:34.080 darkness and stuff. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:35.600 So when is this performance? 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:40.560 Performance is in la It's May the fourth at Disney Hall. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:43.160 It's also with the Master Correll, which is probably the 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:44.680 greatest choir in America. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:46.520 Yeah. I know who they are. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.000 Yeah, I know they're amazing. And look, it's something you know, 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.880 I don't. I don't in any way. Look as much 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.480 as Trump likes to think that he rules the world, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.840 I kind of would like to say, well, maybe Trump, 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:03.400 you exist. Because I wrote this Death Mass and it's 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.120 premiering at the perfect time. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.440 So You're just the backdrop to my music. So I'm 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:09.280 kind of trying. 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.640 To turn it around because because it is eerie, how 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.120 you know, just the whole you know, the apocalyptic dark. 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.400 You know, it's a perfect thing to be putting out 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:19.760 right now. That's all I want to say. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.240 Yeah, it's also you know, I was I don't know 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.160 where I read this, what book. I read this in 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.240 probably my favorite book, Letting Go. But it's about being like, 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.360 you know, even in times of strife or when the 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.400 world is a dark place, there are people who could 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:35.920 create art and people who can thrive within the darkness 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.600 and not off of the darkness. I'm not talking about 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.199 like to the tech billionaires on all of that. I'm 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.840 saying people who can thrive, who makes something happen even 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.840 amidst all the darkness and continue to thrive. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:49.559 Yeah. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.240 Well, I am very much fueled, as you said, not 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.679 fueled by the darkness. But I am a how can 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:00.280 I say this? I am attuned to that sensibility I work. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.880 I've always loved opera. I've always loved you know, written 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.360 ballads and very intense music. 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.520 So I love so yes, artistically, I'm in. 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.120 I've been a very good place. But it was funny 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.559 when you bring up the tech bros. Because they have 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:17.120 no artistic sense whatsoever. I mean, what's so kind of 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.400 horrific about that whole situation is that their idea of 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:25.480 art is like them dressed as the Mona Lisa or something, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.000 you know, with like a banana in the background. You know, 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.680 they just have no aesthetic sense or anything. So they're 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:37.080 not even I don't know, like like artistically, they cannot be. 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:43.240 Yes, So it's up to me, right right, well artists, 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.240 you know, yeah, to actually show up. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.880 Yeah, And they think they're artists. They think they're artists, 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.000 they think that they're. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.800 They think they're artists though I mean they're. 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.959 Clearly they think they're everything. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:54.959 Yeah right. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.520 They think they're sexy too, which is pretty sure. Yeah. 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.959 Well, that's the most revolting part the the sex. The 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.480 assumed sex appeal is so revolting. I mean, I can't 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.880 think of anyone, any group of guys that are less 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.960 fuckable than all of those guys. Talk to me about 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.840 Dream Requiem, So tell me how you would. First of all, 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:15.680 I hate this question when I'm asked how I would 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.320 to describe one of my shows. But I'm gonna ask 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.000 you without saying those words. 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:21.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, No. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.800 I look, I'm a big, as I said before, classical 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.520 music fan, and I but the first piece that really 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.960 got me going when I was thirteen was Verdi's Requiem 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:33.160 the Composer of Verity. 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:34.640 He wrote this amazing requiem. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.160 It's one of the great ones, and I just became 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.160 obsessed with it and it sort of began my whole 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.000 journey in that In that realm, it was a little 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:46.120 freakish for my dad, especially, he's not a big opera 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.600 fan to see, you know, his thirteen year old son 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.200 in the corner in the dark with headphones on listening 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.560 to you know, Day of Wrath and stuff like that. 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.200 So I but I stuck it out, or everybody stuck 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.800 it out. And now you know, I've written you know, 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.600 several classical works and also pop works and all that stuff, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.360 and now I just feel like it's time to give 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:10.080 back to that. I will say, are you Catholic at all? 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.360 Or you're probably anti kit you hate? 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:14.320 Yeah, I'm not anything at all. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.160 Were you brought up Catholic or. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.240 I was brought up Jewish? Actually you're brought up. 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.480 Okay, sorry, Okay, there you go, but I am not anything. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.280 I'm not even baptized Catholic. I was brought up in 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:28.800 a Catholic environment. My mother was Catholic, and I went 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.640 to Catholic school. And how was that Well, you know, 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.520 it wasn't great in a sense, but it was really 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:41.240 they really ingrained it and you in the sense that 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.080 I was a little shocked when I went to compose 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.000 it and I was working with all of those prayers, 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:47.280 you know, the Latin mass. 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:49.760 Wow, just how fast. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.600 It came out, and how how it's just like wired 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.840 into into me, for better or for worse, probably more 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:58.120 for worse in a lot of ways. 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.240 That's how I am with state capital those are to me. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:04.880 Sounds nice. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.360 So anyway, so I so I just started composing it 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.040 and then. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.040 And it just came out really fast, and and it's 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.040 one of these things. 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:15.840 Where the idea came and then I so, okay, that 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.520 sounds like a nice idea. I like to see to 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.000 see if anybody is interested. And we asked Paris first, 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.280 and then within two months there was ten commissioners, ten 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.120 cities all over the world that wanted to do it. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:26.080 There was a real kind of. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.880 Need for it. It was right after COVID. So I 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.560 think people were whatever, they were pretty. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.440 Gloomy, yeah, and. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.560 So, so I think they could relate to that. The 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.640 other thing, which I don't do you know anything about 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:38.840 the dog situation. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.280 I don't know anything about anything. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.800 Okay, well, okay, well this is this is interesting because 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:49.840 you know the requiem is it's dedicated to two individuals. 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.520 The first first one is dedicated to Verity the composer, 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.400 because you know of that. But then the second dedication 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.800 is to Puccini, whose most people would think is an 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.600 op composer, which he is. But Puccini and I say this, 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.240 and the thing used to be our little dog. We 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.720 had a dog named Puccini. And actually within the poem 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.879 Byron's poem there's Byron adored Dogs, and then the poem 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.480 there's a dog that dies in the middle of the poem. 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.439 It's it's kind of the most touching moment of the 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.520 of the piece, or one of one of the many 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:21.680 touching moments. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.000 And and so and we. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.639 My husband and I, we had a little dog named Puccini, 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.679 and so we dedicated it also to the to the 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.560 little dog. So yeah, so so for there's a big 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.000 dog element to the to the piece as well for 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:35.040 dog lovers. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.320 So if you hate opera, but it's. 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.359 A whole opera, right, it's not just one piece. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:41.480 No, it's why it's one piece. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:42.800 It's one only one piece. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.080 Yeah, yeah, it's as Yeah, it's a mass and it 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.280 starts with some of the poem and then it goes 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.840 into the into the mass, like the choir sings all 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.840 the religious mass stuff and then the poem is is 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.200 recited by the narrator and at a certain point they intertwined. 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.680 But it's it's seventy five minutes, like there's no intermission 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.000 or any thing. It's just there. You're in and your 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:06.000 out and yeah, so it's. 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:06.720 I'm very excited about it. 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.440 I mean I've been fighting years and years and years 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.639 to make it into you know, the classical world, and 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.760 it seems like I've done it with this piece of music, 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.480 which is very exciting. Of course, right at the time 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:20.479 that I did that, I wrote a musical in London 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:26.560 called Opening Night, which totally flops. So so I kind 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.320 of the Broadway world kind of or the West End 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:33.480 world in London kind of, you know, gave me the boot, right, 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.240 as you know, the classical world opens, So it's always 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:37.840