WEBVTT - The System vs The Startup for the AFC 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:14.840 I'm Red Lewis, and this is NFL Inside Report as 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.440 we embark on Championships Sunday here in the NFL. We've 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.040 got you ready with the NFC Championship games. We talked 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.000 to Jim Trotter on Wednesday. Now the a f C 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.040 Championship game under the spotlight and to do it. Welcome 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.680 in to it the very best, my guys, James Palmer 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:33.080 and Jeffrey Chidia here with us today on Inside Report. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.360 Fellas great to be here with you. Let's start with 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.280 essentially how the Chief's got here, because it's one of 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.000 the great stories and one of the great games that 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.520 we've all ever seen in the win over the Bills 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.560 in the divisional round at Arrowhead, and let's fast forward 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:48.960 to the final thirteen seconds. And James, I want to 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.800 start with you because we had talked about this a 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.160 little bit earlier in the season during the Chief struggles 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:55.880 and you had brought up the fact and Jeffrey, I 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.160 know you've written about this too, that how the Chiefs 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.360 were really struggling with some of the communication and some 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.640 of the freelancing that they're able to do within the 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.400 offense and it just wasn't clicking. As much. Well, it 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.000 feels like those final thirteen seconds, JP, do what Kells 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:19.240 do it? I like that open it worked. They got 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.640 back to the magic takes a snap on the near 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:27.880 hash goes down the middle of Kelsey by the Chiefs. Yeah. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.319 The funny part is everybody on the offense didn't know 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.559 this was happening. Well, I'll put you in the shoes 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.240 of Orlando Brown Jr. The left tackle. He's sitting there 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.840 and he's hearing do it, Kells, do it Kells. He 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.920 was thinking that Kelsey's gonna chip next to him. That's 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.959 what he thought. He had no clue that's what the 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.160 two of them were talking about. I just told him 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.440 right before they called a time out, right before we 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.080 we went out there and ran that play, um, and 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.120 I told him, I'm probably not going to run the 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:54.880 route data that it's called. I'm just gonna run to 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.960 the open area. And uh, probably midway through his cadence, 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.640 he was screaming at me at the line of scrimmage, 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:04.080 do it like, do it? Do it? And I was 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.240 just like, all right, here we go, boys, And it 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.519 was just a little backyard football. With a couple of 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.400 seconds left, they gave us an opportunity to win the game. 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.960 It's more to take the game into overtime, excuse me. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.440 And so that's how like this freelancing is operating. It's 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:22.560 not like everybody's even included. But the best part about it, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.079 I think really is you're right. We talked about how 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.079 the freelancing was causing some issues earlier and then it 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.280 became now really back to being their staple. I think 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.120 the point of it is Patrick was seeing things differently 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.560 with the way defenses were playing, and then some of 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.839 the freelancing they were doing was playing right into how 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.880 defenses were taking some of these things away. And so 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.760 I do think that it's It's something that has talked 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:46.720 about a lot here in Kansas City. It's not the 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.720 only place that it happens, uh, It's just happening in 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.720 the biggest moments, uh here in Kansas City. And I 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.560 think that's why we're seeing it because of this kind 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.959 of freelancing. And Kelsey has talked about it with other 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.280 tight ends Jeff like and other guys you know around 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.120 the league. Um, I know c j Uzama has talked 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.040 a lot about his conversations with with with Kelse about 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.440 his his chemistry with with Patrick, and obviously that's something 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.880 all those guys and Cincinnati are starting to build. But 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:13.919 this is something that is, I don't want to say 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.440 unique to the league, it's just unique and how they 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.560 execute it at such a high level when it's rolling. Yeah, 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.200 you saw Kelsey talked about that after the game, where 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.680 he just said, this is the culmination of years of 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.519 working on things together, both him and Patrick and and 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.840 Tyreek Hill in that mix as well. I can't even 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.560 put it into words, man um, how much work we 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.640 put in together and how much fun we have doing that, 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.760 and then to go out there and put our entired goals, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.480 dreams and aspirations out there. Just just bleed for every 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.000 single person on his team and every single person in 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.160 that stadium wearing red man that was That was a 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.520 fun experience. I remember the the catch and then seeing 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.400 Tyreek standing up for me calling game and then seeing 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.840 Pat running over me was I'll remember that for the 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.760 rest of my life. Just understanding how to handle the 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:05.640 different situations, rehearsing different responses to different situations. I thought 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.280 it was under rated how much they had had to 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.000 plays in the ready to go. You know, he had 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:17.240 a very difficult, very stressful position, thirteen seconds to play. Obviously, 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.279 you're not getting those plays to work unless the Bills 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.240 cooperate UM. But that also speaks to Kelsey's ability and 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.599 my Home's ability to recognize the coverages they were seeing 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.240 in that situation. I think Kelsey and and both my 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.480 homes talked about or had you re talk today about 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.520 or the other day about just how much they were 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.280 seeing too high looks in being of the year. Now 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:41.160 it's more too high with man coverage mixed in. We 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.240 were seeing a little bit more man beforehand when he 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:47.560 was young, and now we're standing zones UM with man 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.880 mixed in. This group here does everything. So you can't 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:53.440 go in and just go all right, they're gonna play 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.240 shell and and go with it. They've got a bunch 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.119 of shell coverage is they've got a single safety metal covers, 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.760 a handful of own ones, and a handful of man 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.159 was But it was a matter of just sorting it out. 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.359 He did a nice job. It's all part of the 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.040 maturation process, making sure that with the with the offense, 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.480 making sure that the um offensive lines on the same page, 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.960 and receivers are on the same page, and quarterbacks on 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.320 the same page with all of them ample running back. Uh, 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.360 they don't know what they're always going to get anymore. 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.839 But they have seen so much different stuff over the 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.719 last four years that they could handle this about anything. 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.160 And by the way, just to echo your points there 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.720 about Orlando Brown not knowing what Andrew Wiley the right tackle, 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.600 I talked to you this week as well. I was like, yeah, 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.200 I just I had to make sure that Kelsey wasn't 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.760 on my side, and because because he thought he thought 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.440 that the chip might be coming too, and that's that's 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.640 what everybody thought. And then you know, now we go 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.560 back and we hear all the you know, the mic 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.440 dup stuff with with Kelsey telling Tyreek Hill to do 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.240 this and that on the first play that ends up 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.160 getting them the you know, the first chunk of yards 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.680 they might they right, man, you are and I'm saying 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.560 go outside and come back in, like running around outside. 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:07.400 How like when you come back in, I can get 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.000 in the way. It truly is amazing that that can 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.080 happen in thirteen seconds, um, and it's a testament to 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.160 their chemistry together. But Jeff, how would you then characterize, 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.920 you know, how far they've come from that stretch where 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.080 they were three, you know, three and four after the 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.120 loss to the Titans in Week seven, rattled off eight 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.880 in a row and now, you know, come back in 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.480 this great fashion to you know, win an overtime against 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.120 the Bills. Well, it's been in bed, night and day. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.400 And I'm sure James could would say the same thing. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.240 You look at where they were first half of the year, 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.400 and they were still trying to be the Chiefs of 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.360 two thousand and eighteen, two thousand nineteen, two thousand and twenty, 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.960 that could just go up and down the field, give 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.720 you a seventy five yeard touchdown, passed anytime they wanted to, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.800 and and there was a lot of recalibration with in 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.600 this offense at mid season, and I don't think it 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.000 was I think people don't understand how hard it was 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:59.960 at some point for them to get to this point, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.640 because at time it did it did look like they 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.240 were struggling with it, that Mahomes wasn't comfortable having to 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:11.040 play take what they give you offense. But I feel like, 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.080 and I've watched him for the last four years. As 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.840 as James, that was his best game. He's a lot 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.440 of great games in his career, a lot of big numbers, 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:24.280 but in terms of managing offense, making decisions, understanding when 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.840 to use his legs, he didn't throw a pass over 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:28.679 twenty five yards in the game where he had almost 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.880 four hundred yards passing, and that would have never happened, uh, 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.760 even a year ago, even eight games ago. And so 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.200 I think it by by far it was his best 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.000 game and you're seeing the maturation of a quarterback in 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.880 an offense as a result. Yeah, Jeff, the three things 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:46.600 that you said that that jumped out of me, and 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.120 I want to kind of break down a little bit. One. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.720 It was not easy, as Jeff said, Like I was 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.920 told by people in the building, this was a very 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.400 difficult season for Tyreek Hill to learn how to play 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.840 the position completely different. This is his lowest yards per 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.680 catch average as a starter in his NFL career, but 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.560 he also broke the Chiefs record for most catches in 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.120 a season in this same year. He just had to 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.840 learn to play it differently and it was a struggle 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.360 for him. And not to say, like you know that 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.240 that makes him any different than any other receiver. If 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.120 you're the fastest man on the planet, you want to 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.560 go deep consistently and burn people. He had to play 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.000 in space, and he learned, you know, getting better to 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.600 playing guys across the middle and playing in space. The 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.080 other aspect of Jeff saying like that might have been 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.560 like the best game of Mahomes. I think what he 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.440 did in terms of taking what was given to him 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.079 and what was that was the struggle. Early in the season. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.400 I had a long talk with Kurt Warner about this, 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.240 who loves just breaking down all of these guys, and 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.640 he just said it was there. He just wouldn't take 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.680 it over and over and over again. That's what makes 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.600 Brady great to keep taking that. That's that that short 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.520 route that somebody gives you. And what we saw in 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.000 this game, he just he's the leading rusher in the game. 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:54.400 He goes, well, I'll just take the run. I'll just 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.640 take the run. Finally forces them to play a little 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.760 bit of man and knows that's where he can have 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.280 the advantage with Travis Kell see entiree hill when they're 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.200 in those situations. So the patients really really showed I 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.719 think in that game that was Those are the two 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.600 things we saw from the struggles to now where we're 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.200 seeing it all kind of clicking because everybody took some 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:13.840 time to figure it out, and it was not easy 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.200 on on Tyreek Hill specifically. And that's kind of interesting 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.520 now as we switch over to the Bengal side of things, 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.240 and we will get into the kind of the ins 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.200 and outs of this matchup here in just a minute. 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.560 But first, for the Bengals, coming off a win in 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.160 which Joe Burrow did not throw a touchdown pass against 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:33.079 the Tennessee Titans, knocking off the number one seed. Uh, 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:34.720 you know, got Joe Mixon going a little bit and 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.520 had to rely on their defense, you know, to make 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.560 some real plays in that game. But then you go 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.480 back to when these two teams actually played against each other, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.320 Bengals in Chiefs back in week seventeen. Barrow throws for 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.960 over four hundred, Jamar Chase goes for over two hundred. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.000 They were on fire, you know, through the air, so 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:59.800 there is no tase, it's a touch stop, He's gonna 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:04.000 chev and they open fail sixty nine yards to go 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.240 with a seventy two yarder in the first quarter. Does 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.600 this tell you, you know, Jeff, that the Bengals kind 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.000 of like the Chiefs now, feel like they can win 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.400 in a lot of different ways, and that might make them, 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.960 you know, even more dangerous, even when the past game 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.959 wasn't clicking like it like it had been for much 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.800 of this season. Yeah, they have an amazing comfort level 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:32.080 with playing different styles of football that you don't see 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.680 from young teams, and certainly not young quarterbacks that have 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.720 this kind of weaponry around him. I saw them play 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.880 in Denver a few weeks back with a fifteen ten game. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.880 I can tell you I probably needed to drink like 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:46.000 eighteen cokes to stay awake. It was that boring. You 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.400 got exactly I was going through everything. I had all 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.080 the cabin and you're I can get my hands on. 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.880 But you saw the way there there comfort with that. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:11:00.240 You saw their comfort with Last week nineteen sixteen ended 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.920 out getting your quarterback hit nine times. And they've been 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.439 a slow starting team throughout most of this year. That's 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.640 one of the big knocks on them early on was 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.679 that they just they tend to dig holes and they 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.560 can't get that great offense going. So yeah, I do 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.840 believe you're right. There is a sense of whatever it 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.839 takes to win, they will do. That's coach speak. A 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.280 lot of players say that Joe Burrows has said that 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.800 many times in the course of this year. But but 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.319 it's true with it. With this bunch, they know they 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.400 have different ways to go about it. They know that 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:30.840 they can go up and down the field with a 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.880 team like Kansas City. And I tell you that that 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.480 when they got in that game, it's huge to their 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.160 confidence level because they were playing for something that they 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.600 were playing for the AFC North. The Chiefs were playing 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.320 for the number one seed, and they walked away with 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.320 a win. And Joe Burrow was right when he says, 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.400 this is beyond a nice little underdog story. I'm tired 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.280 of the underdog narrative. And we're really really good team. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.840 We're here to We're here to make noise and teams 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.920 are gonna have to pay attention to us. Were, like 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.720 I said, a really good team with really good players 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.839 and coaches, and we're kinding for it all. This is 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.920 a really good team that thinks they can win an 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.480 a SC championship this week. And you look at the 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.839 way you broke that down, Jeff, in a sense where 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.439 they do dig these holes. That is if anything shows 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.720 you the season what you can't do against the Chiefs, 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.040 right Usually you get behind to Kansas City, and then 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.880 they become more aggressive as a defense. Then usually you 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.880 change your play calling. Then usually they forced another turnover 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.200 and it's game over. We didn't see that. I was 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.920 at that game in Cincinnati. You didn't see any panic 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.600 from Joe Burrow and that group at all, because they 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.200 realized a lot like we've seen over the with the 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.000 Chiefs over the years, they can score like that and 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.800 then they can change the course of a game so quickly. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.480 That's how they're able to really, I think, have that 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.800 calmness to them because they know at any given time, 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.520 any given player on this team can have an explosive 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.360 play to help them out. And the part with Joe 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.760 Burrow getting sacked nine times and I think there was 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.120 another two with penalties that he got taken down on 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.520 that so it could have almost been a leaven and 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.920 he still completes almost set and the six percent of 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.480 his passes in that game. That's the shocking part. To 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.480 not be rattled in your accuracy when you're hit that 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.840 many times. I was thinking in my head on like 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.080 on nowhere else you think other than inside your head, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:15.120 but Chris Jones coming at you should be something that 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.200 could really throw you off in the middle. But Jeffrey 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.120 Simmons was just doing it a week ago and it 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.000 didn't throw them off. So I mean, I think that 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.200 that ability to be very calm in those in those 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.320 moments and not get rattled no matter how many times 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.199 he's hit is a definite advantage for the way Joe 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.679 Burrow plays, because we all think when young guys happened, 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.600 and that happens to young guys, Oh man, we're seeing ghosts. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.800 We haven't seen it with Joe Burrow, and he even 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.080 had a major injury with getting under pressure and we 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.320 still haven't seen it from him. I think it's a 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.000 great point. And look at about the nine sacks. I mean, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.880 it's just it's absolutely incredible that you could take that 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.400 kind of beating and you know, still win a game, 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.960 much much less a playoff game. But it kind of 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.079 just goes back to the story of Joe Burrow, right, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.920 It's like, you know, interes a losing culture or um bud. 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.800 He's like, I'm I'm not a loser. I am a winner, 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.600 and that's what we're going to do. I mean, it's 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:09.400 just like you may consider getting sacked nine times a 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.679 losing effort, but we are not going to lose, and 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.719 that's just that's just kind of what it's been and 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:20.720 sounds like Stewart Smiler from Saturday Night five. Dog got 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.560 it all right. We're not throwing up the Tyreek kill 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.280 deuce is to to j P and Jeff here just 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:30.120 yet when we come back digging into this matchup and 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:34.480 what that Week seventeen matchup really means for the Chiefs 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.960 who came up on the losing side of it now 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.440 heading into the rematch here in the a f C 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:56.880 Championship Game. Back here in NFL Inside Report, getting set 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.120 for the a f C Championship game between the Bengals 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.640 and the Chiefs from arrow Head Stadium as Kansas City 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.160 gets set to host the a f C Title game 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:09.200 for an NFL record fourth consecutive year. James Palmer, Jeffrey 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.440 Chidia gracious enough to be back here with us on 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.920 NFL Inside Report, And James, I know you just popped 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.320 off some zooms with some of the Chiefs players here 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.560 ahead of this game, so I want to start there 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:26.200 with you on how the Chiefs are framing the discussion 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.600 surrounding the Week seventeen loss to the Bengals as they 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:36.680 approach this rematch here in the a f C title game, Well, 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.640 we could start right on the defensive side of the ball. 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.480 I think we know Steve Spagmolo's like history with rematches, right. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.280 I think he's pretty good at the second time around 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.800 and making making some noise. And I think when you 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.800 have a veteran defense, I think, like in some of 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.360 the key roles that the Chiefs have, I think the 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.400 first time around against a young team, you learn a 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.360 lot and and they really were hitting the mouth and 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.760 how they played, and there was definitely, Jeff some calls 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.720 that we were debating, uh in some specific moments of 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:08.960 that game where we were kind of scratching our head 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.960 a little bit. And I think obviously those type of mistakes, 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.880 if you know Spags are probably not going to happen 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.360 a second time around. That The big thing to me 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.440 is Tyrone Matthew in the middle and if he plays 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.040 in this game, actually in the pot, they going to 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:27.920 the ends on the pick, but guess who Matthew The 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.880 second interception of the night brings it back to the 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:34.320 fourteen yard line and coming back to practice on Thursday. 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.280 Not out of the concussion protocol yet, but it's all 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:40.520 pointing towards his availability on Sunday, Lagarius needs said to me, 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.440 like he tells me before every snap what's happened, And 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.520 they didn't have that against Josh Allen and the Bills 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.080 and a guy that is, you know that Chris Harris 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.960 Typer or that they're just screaming pre snap because they 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:56.760 are so smart about what they see the second time around. 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.000 It's important to have that voice because everybody, right Jeff 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.440 sees sees it the second time around. If you're one 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.800 of those guys that yell into everybody is a part 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.600 of your secondary, when you've seen it for the second time, 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.520 you almost have that advantage. So I do think his 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.560 his ability to play in the middle in this game, 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.440 I think changes their defense because there were actual packages 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.160 they couldn't use against Buffalo with him off the field. Yeah. Yeah. 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:22.359 Frank Clark made that point after the game that if 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:26.000 the Buffalo game just talking about just how vital Matthew 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:27.600 is not just to the back end of the defense, 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.800 but to the front end to everybody. You know, you've 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.880 seen that time during the game where we kind of struggle, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.960 you know, um where whether it's pass rushing, getting getting 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.920 the stuff when we needed them. Um. Also where where 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:39.800 you see, Um, you know we gave up a few 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.080 passes in the back end. Um. Those are things where 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.119 you know time is there. He's able to help with 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.040 the adjustments, help comp situations down and stuff like that. 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:48.920 You know where it may seem like, you know, things 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.920 are kind of getting overhyped and stuff like that. There's 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.800 a different defense when he's not out there as far 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.000 as communication, as far as how they blitz. That's really 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.760 what his biggest value is these days. He's a much 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.119 better blitzer, much better towards the line of screamage, and 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.880 he is on the back end covering people. But I'll 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.320 say this much. He was there. They played the first time. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.320 They were all there played the first time. It didn't matter, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.480 you know, you know who wasn't there. And this is 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.000 do you guys remember, I mean, I'm watching Orlando Brown Jr. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:21.800 Just Walked to the m R I room because they 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.680 actually have an m R I at that stadium, which 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:25.720 is very rare. But he goes out with the calf 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.240 injury pre game. Then they lose Lucas Nyang, their other 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.919 they're they're starting right tackle to a season ending knee injury. 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.040 Joe Tuney just went from left guard to left tackle 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:38.120 with no reps and held Trey Hendrickson in check. Like 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.240 I mean, Patrick Mahomes was clean in that game. I 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.920 think we forget early on they were just running the 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.159 football up and down the field Kansas City, and then 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.720 they scored three points in the second half. That's the 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.760 part where I don't know if that happens the second 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.480 time around with this offense. But I think what I'm 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.439 making is that offensive line now back to being full strength. 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.719 I'm not sure how much pressure they get on Patrick 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.879 Homes when you just watch this. These last two teams 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.760 come against him in Cam Heyward and t J. Watt, 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:10.240 and then this Buffalo Bills defense. I think they're shaping 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:11.720 up to be able to do what they did in 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.120 the early part of that Cincinnati game. Yeah, I would 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:16.960 agree to. I think that's that will be an interesting 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.240 thing to follow with with Orlando Brown back and with 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:23.840 Andrew Wiley jumping in a right time. Yeah, good point, 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:29.800 Jack Tony at the left tackle, Um, Jeff help, you 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.480 know we're talking about this being the fourth consecutive a 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:35.720 f C Championship game at Arrowhead. You live there in 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.720 Kansas City and go to a ton of these games. 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:41.960 They want two of those three preceding this one at Arrowhead. 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:44.800 How big is it, like, is it Is it going 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.399