WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: High Tech Farming

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and hold the tech are you? It's time for a

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff classic episode. This episode originally published July six,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand fifteen. This titled High Tech Farming and Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Benjamin joined me for this show. I hope you're doing well, Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>miss your buddy, and yeah, let's sit back and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this classic episode. I was amazed at how technology

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<v Speaker 1>is rapidly changing the face of agriculture because in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things that's been kind of set

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<v Speaker 1>technologically speaking for decades, and it just shows how how

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<v Speaker 1>ignorant I was of the whole thing. I had just

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny bit of insight on this UM Our listener,

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<v Speaker 1>our listening audience UM back in two thousand and ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we did an episode about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>some of the stuff that was happening back then. But

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<v Speaker 1>even since two thousand ten, there's been a lot of advances.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have a few listeners in our audience that, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where their their ranch hands or the work

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<v Speaker 1>on the farm and they listen to the podcast as

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, or killing the fields or whatever they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing tending to the herd. And um, they said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what would be really interesting I don't think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people know about this is just how advanced

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<v Speaker 1>tractors are becoming, Just how advanced, um, you know, barnes

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<v Speaker 1>themselves are becoming. It's not just the machinery, it's also

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everything that goes around around growing or or

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<v Speaker 1>umvest harvesting and like maximum potential yields. All that has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with with modern technology more or less now,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, um, it's all becoming pushed far more into

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<v Speaker 1>the future than you would ever think. Yeah, And and

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because we're at a time where we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a decreasingly small percentage of the population being dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>the roles of ranching and farming. Right if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at United States history, this is particularly true in the

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<v Speaker 1>U S, but you can see it in other places

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<v Speaker 1>as well. If you look at the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century, so around nineteen hundred or so, about half

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<v Speaker 1>of the population of the United States were farmers. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you get to and before that was even larger numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Um the percentage wise, you know, obviously the population itself

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<v Speaker 1>was smaller, but percentage wise it was there were many

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<v Speaker 1>more farmers. And what happened was this little thing called

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<v Speaker 1>the Industrial Revolution. You've probably heard that term, Scott, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured you might. So the Industrial Revolution actually meant

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanization of lots of different industries, including agriculture. And

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<v Speaker 1>so around nineteen hundred, your chief means of operating the

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<v Speaker 1>various machines in agriculture were it was horsepower, literal horsepower,

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<v Speaker 1>actually using horses. Yeah, it wasn't until the nineteen twenties

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirties the tractors really started to get traction in agriculture.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, oh boy, I'm gonna have to leave. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, it's I've lost somebody co hosts this way. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, Chris, Chris was way worse about puns

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<v Speaker 1>than I was. He was punk. Yeah, but at any rate. Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 1>so you get to the nineteen fifties nineteen sixties, those

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<v Speaker 1>numbers start increasing, but as the mechanization increases, the number

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<v Speaker 1>or the percentage of population that needs to be farmers

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<v Speaker 1>or ranchers decreased, because you didn't need that much labor, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you were able to offload the labor to to mechanization

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<v Speaker 1>to some extent. Sure. Well, how many times have we

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<v Speaker 1>heard in the past, I mean, in the past decade

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<v Speaker 1>even that very soon the world population is going to

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<v Speaker 1>outpace the capability that we have to produce food for

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<v Speaker 1>that population. Sure, And it's always I mean, I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard this for a long long time. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, maybe of years or even even longer than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably I just haven't been privy to that information. But

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<v Speaker 1>it always seems like they say the world's population will

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<v Speaker 1>exceed the world's capacity to produce food by the year X,

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<v Speaker 1>and the year X is always about twenty years out,

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<v Speaker 1>ten or twenty years out, and and it always seems

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<v Speaker 1>like we always overcome then some way. So and this

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<v Speaker 1>is I found this interesting. I found an article um

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<v Speaker 1>in the Guardian fromen that was talking about developing nations

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<v Speaker 1>and uh some innovations, some revolutionary farming innovations, and they

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<v Speaker 1>said that in the last fifty years agricultural production has

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<v Speaker 1>actually tripled in the last fifty years. Azing. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is you're saying that the number of farmers has

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<v Speaker 1>gone down the number. The amount of production has tripled

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<v Speaker 1>in the last fifty years. So they're becoming more efficient

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<v Speaker 1>and every year that's a challenge for them to become

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<v Speaker 1>more and more efficient with less and less people, less

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<v Speaker 1>and less property to do so, because you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the farmland is at a premium right now in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of countries, a lot of places that um, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're severe government restrictions on the amount of space that

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<v Speaker 1>you're allowed to use for a farm. They're they're building structures,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so that they're building up instead of out. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a way to increase efficiency and and it

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<v Speaker 1>really a productivity and yields from their crops no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, it's tomatoes, cucumbers, whatever happens to be. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these things that they're even finding that building um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, here's the difference. Like instead of building a

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<v Speaker 1>six ft roof or an eight foot roof on a greenhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>if they put a twelve foot roof on a greenhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>they can double production. And I think it was tomatoes

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<v Speaker 1>and cucumbers. That's pretty incredible. Yeah, So things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>small things like that can make a big, big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you're talking about the increase in population.

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<v Speaker 1>The number you're going to find if you do some

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<v Speaker 1>searches on this on Google. I think the number that's

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<v Speaker 1>most frequently cited is about by twenty fifty, we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at nine point two billion people on Earth. I have

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<v Speaker 1>today's number, by the way, Okay, I looked at it

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<v Speaker 1>just this morning, so as of today, it's about seven

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<v Speaker 1>point three billion people. And I watched the counter for

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<v Speaker 1>a short amount of time. There's a pretty interesting site

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<v Speaker 1>called um it's called world ometers dot info, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a world population clock really, but you can watch

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of numbers as they go up and down

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what you're looking at. But pretty fascinating. Seven

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<v Speaker 1>point three billion as of now. But it's steadily clicking up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty yeah, I mean, it's it's amazing. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>a little sobering because once we hit nine point two

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<v Speaker 1>billion people, the other estimations say that at that point

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<v Speaker 1>by we will need to have increased food production from

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<v Speaker 1>today's standards by another seventy okay question here though, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>here's here's now. They know the numbers are staggering, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you look back at that way, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>that site that I was just talking about today, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't write down all these numbers because it was

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<v Speaker 1>just way too much. There's a lot of information there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's all stats. It's a pretty fascinating site.

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<v Speaker 1>But they said that in this is just to give

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<v Speaker 1>you an idea of in the seventy there were roughly

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<v Speaker 1>half as many people in the world as there are today.

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<v Speaker 1>That means we've doubled since nineteen seventy that short amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time. Now they say that due to growth rate decreases,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll take about two hundred years that population to double again.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I look at that number and I think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people were there in nineteen seventy There must

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<v Speaker 1>have been um, roughly three and a half billion people. Ballpark. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about going from you know, seven and a

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<v Speaker 1>half billion up to fifteen billion people. That's why, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's an additional seven and a half billion people instead

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<v Speaker 1>of four billion people. So maybe that's the reason. But still, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the disparity between the number of you know, what is

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<v Speaker 1>that forty five years and you know, um, two hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's an incredible amount of time. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 1>how does all that factor into I mean, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many numbers here at play that had a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out where we stand as far as when the

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<v Speaker 1>food's going to run out. Well, I think it's even

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<v Speaker 1>more complicated than that, Scott, because also we're seeing more

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<v Speaker 1>countries kind of emerge from developing to getting to developed status,

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<v Speaker 1>as people become more affluent, as they as middle classes

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<v Speaker 1>begin to emerge in various populations. One of the first

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<v Speaker 1>markers of that is that people want access to a

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<v Speaker 1>better diet that includes more variety of foods and a

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<v Speaker 1>higher quality of those foods. So not only are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to need to increase production in order to meet

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<v Speaker 1>the needs of a growing population, but we need to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that that is a varied approach, not like

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<v Speaker 1>well we'll just we'll just grow more rice or more

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<v Speaker 1>grains of some sort. It has to actually be a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of foods, which means that we have to start

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<v Speaker 1>really looking at strategies um for multiple reasons. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering, when you were doing your research here we're

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<v Speaker 1>going into ag tech, did you come across the term

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<v Speaker 1>precision agriculture. This is exciting stuff. I think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it really comes down to what you would call,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a smart farm. Yeah, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that's a term or if that's something I came up

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<v Speaker 1>with her, I came across it somewhere, but but it

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<v Speaker 1>does seem to me like it's smart farming. And exactly

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly right. I mean, it's just in the same

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<v Speaker 1>way that you would think of a smart home. This

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<v Speaker 1>is very apt. But precision farming. I mean that that's

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<v Speaker 1>it seems so odd because that's something that we never

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<v Speaker 1>would have heard of maybe ten years ago, fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It just wasn't that way it was, and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>haphazard by any means, right, It was just that it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't to the to the inch precise as it is today.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, sure that the farmer would see until his

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<v Speaker 1>road um in his road, his field in straight rows,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would know that I can get roughly this

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<v Speaker 1>amount of seeds in this row and etcetera. But now

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<v Speaker 1>we're down to planning to the very inch to get

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<v Speaker 1>that maximum yield and to the very second, like not

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<v Speaker 1>just not just in in distance, but in time as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So in ages past, you knew you planted in the

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<v Speaker 1>spring and you would harvest in the fall. But with

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<v Speaker 1>precision agriculture, it is not a joke to say you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to plant on Wednesday. Like you can

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<v Speaker 1>end up getting data that is so precise and it's

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<v Speaker 1>dependent upon multiple factors. Right, So we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different technologies and processes that have to work

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<v Speaker 1>for precision agriculture to work. So I'm just gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>down some of them. You need sensors. Those sensors are

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<v Speaker 1>going to detect things like humidity, the moisture level in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the soil, the actual acidity of the soil,

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<v Speaker 1>the chemical composition. You want to have other sensors that

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<v Speaker 1>can detect when plants need water. There's actually a sensor

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<v Speaker 1>that is a leaf sensor. It attaches to a leaf

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<v Speaker 1>and it measures the change in voltage that happens when

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<v Speaker 1>the leaf contracts. Now, a contracting leaf is an indicator

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<v Speaker 1>that the plant needs water. Yeah, so you get imagine

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<v Speaker 1>you are a farmer and you get alert on your

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<v Speaker 1>smartphone that says you need to water the fields today

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<v Speaker 1>because this is an early indicator that the plants are

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<v Speaker 1>in are quote unquote thirsty, which is pretty incredible. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to work in a nursery and uh, like a

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<v Speaker 1>tree nursery, not not a baby nursery, but a tree nursery.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know some of these hot summer days

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<v Speaker 1>in July and August. I'll he how we knew when

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<v Speaker 1>we had to water is what we looked at the

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<v Speaker 1>field of trees, you know, the entire nursery and said,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like they're a little wilted with better throw

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<v Speaker 1>some water on the plants. Right, That's what we did.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was it was just kind of seat

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<v Speaker 1>of the pants stuff. And and there's less and less

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<v Speaker 1>seat of the pants farming going on now. It's more precise,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said. And those sensors I mean that you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just that there's sensors and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go to a central location even to to read or

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<v Speaker 1>monitor those. You don't have to can Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>will send mobile alerts to the farmer via smartphone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all these these systems now that you can put

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<v Speaker 1>in place at your farm that allows these sensors to

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<v Speaker 1>interact with a network and alert you to minute changes

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can make big decisions with the best technology,

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<v Speaker 1>the best information available. Other tech that you will see.

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<v Speaker 1>In precision agriculture include satellites or drones, and these are

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<v Speaker 1>specifically to monitor the status of crops throughout the year

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can determine what the maturity level of

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<v Speaker 1>the crops happens to be at any given point. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to harvest the crops at the right maturity

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<v Speaker 1>level so that you minimize crop loss because obviously if

0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.720
<v Speaker 1>you if you go too early, then stuff isn't right yet.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna be able to sell all the crops

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<v Speaker 1>that you harvest if you go too late. Same sort

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<v Speaker 1>of problem, except of course on the other side of it,

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<v Speaker 1>so you want to be able to get the crops.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to harvest them when it's absolutely at their peak,

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<v Speaker 1>and that way you maximize the yield, you minimize the loss.

0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.360
<v Speaker 1>These are all different factors that go into the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of precision agriculture. Meanwhile, on the on the software side,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have computer algorithms that are incredibly sophisticated

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can crunch these numbers and make it

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful information that farmers can act on. In other words,

0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.920
<v Speaker 1>they provide information that can can build maps visual visual

0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.040
<v Speaker 1>representations of what your field looks like what what the

0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.720
<v Speaker 1>terrain you're talking about looks like, Um, you know, where

0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.319
<v Speaker 1>their hot spots are, where the plants are growing and

0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.720
<v Speaker 1>their best where they're not growing quite so well? What

0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:22.199
<v Speaker 1>the reasons could be behind that? They may analyze, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, why this this one sector of the field

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<v Speaker 1>isn't maybe producing as much as it possibly could versus

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<v Speaker 1>this sector that's just one yards away yet is is overproducing.

0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.120
<v Speaker 1>It's producing more than they expected. And why is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they can you know, learn something from that section

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<v Speaker 1>or sector and uh and incorporate that into the next

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<v Speaker 1>year's crop. We'll be back with more of this classic

0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:54.520
<v Speaker 1>episode of tech stuff after this quick break. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at farms, the overwhelming majority of farms in the

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<v Speaker 1>US are family owned and operated, right ninety Like in

0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the nine upper ninety percentile. Only less than five percent

0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.800
<v Speaker 1>of farms in the United States are owned by non

0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:13.920
<v Speaker 1>family operated corporations. So even though they're they're huge, we're

0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.599
<v Speaker 1>talking about like craft would own a giant farm or

0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.280
<v Speaker 1>something like, right, you know that they would they would

0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.640
<v Speaker 1>grow their own products, yes, or monsanto or you know

0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.680
<v Speaker 1>there's tons of them, right, but at any rate, Uh,

0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.800
<v Speaker 1>that only that only accounts for less than five percent

0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.000
<v Speaker 1>of all the farms in the United States. However, the

0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.880
<v Speaker 1>midsized farms are slowly getting edged out. In the US.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a lot of small farms that are doing

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<v Speaker 1>all right, particularly in markets where there's a high value

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<v Speaker 1>placed on organic farming that kind of thing, and local

0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is localized farming, um, but it's mostly turning into really

0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.400
<v Speaker 1>big farms and small farms in the midsize farms are

0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.640
<v Speaker 1>starting to get weeded out. But with those big farms,

0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.760
<v Speaker 1>you can have such a huge farm that it is

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<v Speaker 1>completely possible that one part of your land is getting

0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:06.080
<v Speaker 1>adequate moisture from a weather system moving through and another

0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.800
<v Speaker 1>part isn't. And this is the kind of technology. These sensors,

0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the the drones, and the satellite imagery are the kind

0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of things that tell you, oh, the southern part of

0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.840
<v Speaker 1>my farm is fine, that's the weather system came through

0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.560
<v Speaker 1>provide enough water, but the northern part is in need

0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:29.120
<v Speaker 1>of irrigating, So then you can irrigate just the parts

0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:34.240
<v Speaker 1>of your farm that needed saving water. It also means

0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that one of the important technologies with precision agriculture is

0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:43.680
<v Speaker 1>incredibly accurate weather forecasting. It's incredibly important. And you can

0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.400
<v Speaker 1>extrapolate this to ranching as well livestock and herds, because

0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're enormous ranches in Texas and California, Montana,

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<v Speaker 1>Montana that are are the exact same thing you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>where weather systems moved through and only affect maybe the

0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.920
<v Speaker 1>southern era southeast eatern corner of that of that ranch.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very possible that you know, the ranchers might

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<v Speaker 1>decide I'm gonna move my my flock, my herd out

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<v Speaker 1>of that region in time to avoid that blizzard or

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<v Speaker 1>that that that horrific thunderstorm that's going to come through

0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.400
<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, or you know, whatever it happened to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So ranchers deal with a lot of the same things.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course we're talking about food production still, so

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of ties in. Can I say one more

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<v Speaker 1>thing about drones before we move on? In fact, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more than one thing, But of course

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<v Speaker 1>there's the obvious uses for them monitoring crops um you know,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at you know, distant or remote locations that um

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<v Speaker 1>or are difficult to get to for a farmer, so

0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that you know, you can daily fly a drone up

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<v Speaker 1>the hillside and look at your your coffee crop or

0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever it happens to be. UM. You know people that

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<v Speaker 1>use terraced farms, you know for space and and UM

0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, just irrigation capabilities I guess, or you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>so that it's the most optimal way to grow crops.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be the most difficult to also reach by

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<v Speaker 1>foot so or by vehicle. UH, drones kind of eliminate

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<v Speaker 1>all that. And the other thing that is really really

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<v Speaker 1>important is that UM drones are capable of delivering fertilizer

0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and insecticide at precise locations. So you know, the maps

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<v Speaker 1>that we just talked about. With the software programs that

0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.320
<v Speaker 1>create maps and and show you exactly how crops are

0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:23.800
<v Speaker 1>growing in certain regions or sectors, you can precisely accurately

0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.399
<v Speaker 1>deliver the right amount of insecticides or or pesticides or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever happens to be that you need in that area

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<v Speaker 1>to that just that one sector via a drone you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a sprayer underneath. And whether we're talking about you know,

0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.760
<v Speaker 1>small helicopters or UM. You know the quad copters that

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<v Speaker 1>we see often kind of eight eight one of the octicopters.

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<v Speaker 1>UM they replace. Uh, you know the guys that would

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<v Speaker 1>fly in those crop dusters. Have you ever seen a

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<v Speaker 1>crop duster in action? Okay, they're they are fascinating, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you see there, those guys are like daredevils.

0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like the best um um air show

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<v Speaker 1>stunt you've ever seen when you see them going really

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<v Speaker 1>i mean remarkably low elt street. What's it's startling if

0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you're in let's say that you're driving through the Midwest.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in Indiana, Ohio, somewhere in there, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe two yards ahead of you you see an airplane

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<v Speaker 1>buzz through that's low enough that it would strike a

0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.240
<v Speaker 1>semi if there was a semi on the road. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that low. It's going underwires. It's it's amazing. Uh. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a very dangerous profession. In fact, it often

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<v Speaker 1>falls in the top ten Dangerous professions list every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually it's it's two or you know, number two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>four somewhere in there behind. Uh. Fishers, you know, anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who's fishing Alaskan fishermen or whatever. Yeah, that's why they

0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.479
<v Speaker 1>call it deadlyest catch yea, and loggers. Loggers I think

0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.439
<v Speaker 1>are usually like number one and two between fishers and laggers,

0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and then uh, aircraft pilots. I think they kind of

0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.439
<v Speaker 1>lumped them in with airline pilots, you know, like um

0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:55.520
<v Speaker 1>passenger airlines and uh like bush pilots. Bush pilots and

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<v Speaker 1>crop dusters likely account for most of the deaths in

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<v Speaker 1>that field because of the terrain that they fly in,

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<v Speaker 1>how low they fly, the conditions are inherently more risk

0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.440
<v Speaker 1>exactly right. And wind farms, now we haven't even talked

0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.240
<v Speaker 1>about from it, but wind farming, uh, that is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge danger for crop dusters, for human crop dusters, because

0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:18.680
<v Speaker 1>they often strike those poles or strike the the rotors

0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.440
<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, because they're flying in these extremely

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<v Speaker 1>fast low vehicles, and their their focused, to be honest,

0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.160
<v Speaker 1>is on the crops. It's not necessarily on that new

0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.520
<v Speaker 1>wind turbine post that's just putting put up by within

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<v Speaker 1>the last month or so, or the fifty others that

0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.280
<v Speaker 1>are in that field. So it can be very dangerous.

0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.640
<v Speaker 1>And and I'm glad that you know some of these

0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:39.919
<v Speaker 1>some of these drones are able to cancel out the

0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:42.320
<v Speaker 1>need for crop dusting pilots in some cases, although it

0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:46.520
<v Speaker 1>would be a pretty good adrenaline rush to do that. Yeah,

0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I would need that much adrenaline

0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 1>rushed in me, but yes, I agree that it certainly

0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.240
<v Speaker 1>would be I think it'd be fun. It could be.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine, Uh, you know the other things to consider

0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.399
<v Speaker 1>with this precision act your culture. I mean, there's tons

0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>more we could talk about. For example, Uh, they often

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<v Speaker 1>will even explain what sort of crops would grow best

0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.680
<v Speaker 1>in different types of soil, and keep in mind these

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:17.080
<v Speaker 1>crops all. You know, if there's one particular crop you're

0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.359
<v Speaker 1>you're planning on growing in part of your land, the

0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.840
<v Speaker 1>timing might be totally different to plant, Like for for

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<v Speaker 1>the ideal setting, it might be totally different to plant

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.480
<v Speaker 1>those seeds than the next one, which means that you

0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.639
<v Speaker 1>have to start taking other complicated planning into account, like

0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:37.680
<v Speaker 1>how do you plant crops for one crop, then let's

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<v Speaker 1>say three more weeks would go by before you have

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<v Speaker 1>to plant the next section that would be a totally

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.359
<v Speaker 1>different crop. How do you do that in a way

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.560
<v Speaker 1>that's not going to damage the crops you first plant it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have also seen where farmers have planted soybeans in

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<v Speaker 1>between other crops. Now I don't remember if it was

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.359
<v Speaker 1>if it was cotton and soybeans or what it happened

0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to be, but it's like mixed crops in the same field. Yeah,

0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:00.639
<v Speaker 1>that was unusual. So so that's one way around it.

0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.240
<v Speaker 1>And there's also, um I know from Indiana again, I

0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.359
<v Speaker 1>know that there's a there's winter wheat you can grow

0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.159
<v Speaker 1>in the downtime. So like, let's see, you've got a

0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.119
<v Speaker 1>summer crop of corn or whatever it happens to be,

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you can also plant a crop of winter wheat that

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<v Speaker 1>that takes up the time the rest of the year

0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:17.160
<v Speaker 1>when you can't grow corn. Yeah, And so this will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you exactly when to plant each one of those

0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.479
<v Speaker 1>crops and when to when to bring it in right

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.639
<v Speaker 1>fertilizer levels that I mean, I guess soil levels that

0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you need to to watch for each crop. You know,

0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.520
<v Speaker 1>whether it would let you know when you would need

0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:34.919
<v Speaker 1>to add fertilizer to those those fields as well, including

0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.480
<v Speaker 1>telling you, hey, don't do it next week, when when

0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:40.399
<v Speaker 1>it would be ideal because there's going to be a

0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:44.120
<v Speaker 1>storm the following day which would just wash the fertilizer away.

0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.160
<v Speaker 1>You're going to want to wait until that weather front

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.919
<v Speaker 1>moves through and then do it like this is really valuable.

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:52.439
<v Speaker 1>So it even goes to the transportation of food. I

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.399
<v Speaker 1>mean we when we're talking about making sure you maximize

0:21:55.400 --> 0:22:00.399
<v Speaker 1>your yield, that includes the time of after hard a sting,

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:02.879
<v Speaker 1>but before you get it to wherever it's going to

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.480
<v Speaker 1>be sold. Obviously, the transportation can result in crop loss

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:10.119
<v Speaker 1>as well, especially in areas that might not have a

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of developed roads, like in Brazil. Brazil has a

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of roads that are dirt roads. So knowing that

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:20.120
<v Speaker 1>it's going to rain in a certain region, you might say, well,

0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 1>we're going to route all of our traffic. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be proactive about this and take these other routes because

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 1>otherwise trucks might get stuck in the mud and we

0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.560
<v Speaker 1>might lose our crops because it may take a day

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 1>or two longer, and it may cost a little bit more,

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 1>but you're going to have a higher yield from that

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 1>field and if it works that way, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm I'm piecing this all together. I think

0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:45.480
<v Speaker 1>that's right that every dollar that the farmer spends getting

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:47.679
<v Speaker 1>the crop or getting the crop to the market to

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.720
<v Speaker 1>be sold, is just a dollar out of his pocket.

0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Essentially at that point. I mean he's trying to maximize

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:58.680
<v Speaker 1>profits as well as maximize the the yield of that product. Yes, yeah,

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:03.440
<v Speaker 1>so there's I mean, it's a really interesting and complicated picture.

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Like the more you look at the more you realize, Wow,

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't appreciate how complex this is. And of course,

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, keeping in mind things like you want to

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>be able to rotate crops through your various fields in

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:18.920
<v Speaker 1>order to keep the soil healthy. If you just continuously

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>grow the same crops on the same land, uh, that

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:26.360
<v Speaker 1>can start depleting nutrients in the soil and so rotating

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 1>that is really important. So this is the kind of

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff that gives the people who are cultivating the land

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 1>way more information like that so that they can they

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:40.680
<v Speaker 1>can do the best to have uh gray yields. They

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 1>are minimizing the environmental impact of what they're doing, which

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.359
<v Speaker 1>is in their best interest in the long run as well.

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's one of those things where the big data,

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the sensors, the automation, all of this stuff is coming

0:23:55.960 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>together to really uh maximum mise their effectiveness while minimizing

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 1>their impact and it benefits all of us. What if

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you take soil out of the mix, though, what if

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you do uh, what if hydroponics? Hydroponics, I mean that's

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>been around since sixteen twenty seven I found out. Wow,

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. You know, it's funny. The first time

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<v Speaker 1>I encountered hydroponics was at um Epcots. Yeah. I was

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>just about to say it had to be Epcot Center

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>at the land. Yeah, that's right. The land is that

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you were driving through on a riding through I guess

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>on the on the boat, um, and it's all you know,

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 1>hanging plants and they're watering them with a mist every

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that's very particularly or specifically timed for that specific plant.

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>You're just seeing the roots of the plants, no soil

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 1>at all. Um. There's also another kind of twist on

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:44.919
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing, and that's aquaponics. Ponics is where they

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 1>grow UM. Well, I guess it's not just one thing.

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 1>They grow a number of different things, but it's plants

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and animals that grow in an ecosystem that is balanced,

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 1>so there's no waste like um I read where they're

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>growing plants and fish in the same place, and there

0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 1>is elt is that there's no wastewater, there's no um insecticides,

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>used anything like that. Um, it's it's all um one

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>system that works together symbiotically nice. And the thing is

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that at the the end result is that you get

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 1>organic produce and fresh toxin free fish from the same

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>from the same the same sorce, same building. You know,

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.959
<v Speaker 1>it's an interior thing that happen indoor thing. Um, but

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.159
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's pretty smart in the way they put

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 1>it together. But I'm sure that takes years of planning.

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, Yeah. None of the solutions we're talking about

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>are particularly simple to implement, right. They require a huge

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 1>investment of both time and money. But you know, everyone's

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna eat so so ultimately it's one of those things

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>where you say, well, we have to do this. I mean,

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not like we have the option, so we just

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>have to find the best way to do it in

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>a smart way. And what about the the idea of

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>shared knowledge now, because that is something that this is

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>so important. I mean that the high tech angle. I

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>guess it's so important for farmers now because as they

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:04.239
<v Speaker 1>can use they can use forms, they can use just

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>simple text messages to other farmers down the road. I mean,

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it could be that easy. It's usually a little bit

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>more complex than it's groups or forums as I mentioned,

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:15.159
<v Speaker 1>but um shared knowledge, you know, they can share best practices.

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>They can they can say you know what, I've never

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>heard of that before. But you know, we've got five

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>people on this site. We can together, we can come

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>up with a solution prior to what ten years ago

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that was unheard of. Yeah. I mean you might have

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a local gathering occasionally, but even that would be of

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.679
<v Speaker 1>mostly small farm operators. And can I just say this

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 1>that I have never ever met a farmer or rancher

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>that I haven't found to be incredibly intelligent. Oh yeah,

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean they all seem just so smart and it's

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's it's like real world smart. You know,

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 1>they just know so much about what they do, and

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>it seems like they're just so in touch with with

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.239
<v Speaker 1>everything that they have to uh have to deal with

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the whether it's the animals to plants, um,

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>just dealing with people. Um, it just seems like I've

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>never ever met any farmer or rancher that isn't just

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>top match intelligence. Well, and to put them all together

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 1>in one place, that's a that's a great place to

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>solve problems. Yeah, I think of them very much like engineers.

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>They they act as engineers, it's just they their training

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 1>is through a different, you know, branch than traditional engineering

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 1>happens to be. But they are all about looking at

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>problems and solving them, and the tools we've talked about

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>are all about giving them even more agency to do

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. We've got more to say in

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>this classic episode of tech Stuff after these quick messages.

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>One other thing I wanted to to mention is that,

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, I talked about how mechanization really started to

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>cut down on the number as far as the percentage

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>of population of farmers. We're going to see that continue,

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously a specially now that we are in an age

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>of automation. We have gone beyond mechanization to automation, to

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the point where sometimes we're talking about autonomous automation. It's

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>not just that it's an automated system, it's one that

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>is working without direct human guidance. We're starting to see

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>that being introduced in various parts of agriculture. So one

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 1>of the things I was looking at I looked at

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 1>some robot harvesters, which are pretty awesome. There was one

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>in particular that was designed to automatically trim lettuce. It's

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>a lettuce trimming robots. Yeah. It used digital imaging to

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>measure exactly where to trim, and it could trim one

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred times faster than a human. Yeah, so you wouldn't

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's fascinating, but when you really think about what

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that is doing, what that what that is, what that

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>machine is is capable of and from what I understand,

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>they were able with that kind of technology to increase

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>yield by as much as ten percent. Now you're going

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>a hundred times faster, and you think, how can you

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>only do tem percent yield increase, Well, you still have

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to wave for the plants to grow. So yeah, I

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>guess the the awaiting time would just be longer than

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>it would be done with the job, and you're just

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>waiting waiting for the harvest, right, So you could end

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>up having waves of of yields coming across because obviously

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you want to be able to provide produce as as

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>frequently throughout the year as possible. And you know, here

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in the United States, we are incredibly fortunate to live

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>in a in a country that is affluent and has

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>relationships with other parts of the world where we can

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>import a lot of vegetables so that even in the

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>dead of winter, we can get access to stuff because

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it's being grown somewhere in the world. We can get

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>access to stuff that probably is not growing in most

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>of the United States at that time. And I know

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that there are ways that they're increasing to speed that

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>these uh the plants come to maturity as well. So yeah,

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>so I mean they're they're they're quickly developing that as well,

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>so that instead of being able to grow two to

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>three crops a year, you might be able to grow,

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, five to six crops a year. Yeah. Yeah,

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you're able to maximize your your fields use

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>so that it's not laying fallow for long times of

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the year. It's it's pretty incredible. Other automated devices I've

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>looked into our automated planters, so these are planting vehicles

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>that I actually saw one in action on a video

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>and it was really interesting. So the video I watched

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>had um engineering students, agricultural engineering students who were working

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>with various manufacturers who would provide them the stuff that

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>they would need to build out these automated devices. The

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>automated planter. There's a guy behind the wheel. He starts

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>driving it and he says, all right, I'm gonna push

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>this button, and he pushes the button inside the vehicle

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and then he takes his hands off the wheel and

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>you see the wheel operating itself. And what was happening

0:30:55.920 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>was the automated planter was working with a GPS device

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>and a pregenerated satellite map of where the crops needed

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to go, located by GPS coordinates, and it was literally

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>following It's like like if you'd used Google Maps to

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>give yourself driving directions, it was essentially following driving directions,

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>except in this case it's planting directions. It's in precise yeah,

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>which is incredible because it knows how many seeds to

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>put down per inch, It knows exactly where to go,

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>exactly how many rows there should be. Amazing stuff I have.

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I've seen a few of these things and it does

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>just blow your mind when you realize how accurate they

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>are and what they're in, the technology that they're using,

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>the you know what they're using to be able to

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>be that accurate. It's almost like it's more accurate than

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>the farmer could be sitting in the vehicle. Really, Yeah,

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>and it really is. Yeah. I mean, you know, you're

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about the capability of measuring down to fractions of

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>an inch, and you know we as humans, we can

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>do that, but it takes us, granted, a lot more time.

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>And this this speeds things up considerably. I also saw

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>weeding robots because I could use that at home. Oh yeah,

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>me too. One of the best things about weeding robots

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>is that, obviously it would mean that you could cut

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>down on herbicides. You wouldn't need to use as much

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>herbicide to kill off weeds and preserve your crops. You

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>could use a weeding robot to do it. Now, if

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you're if you're looking at a way of growing your

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>crops and you don't want to use herbicides for whatever reason,

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe it affects your crops negatively. Hand weeding is pretty

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>much your your big bet, and that means either you're

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>literally pulling the weeds out by hand or you're using

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>a hoe. Either way, it's backbreaking work. It's slow, and

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not efficient. It's not efficient use of time, and

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>it requires a lot of labor. So weeding robots tend

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to be something that you you tow behind another vehicle.

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>So they are just automatically looking for weeds, and by looking,

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're using cameras or infrared sensors and they're

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>using digital image recognition software to tell the difference between

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a weed and a crop and anything that's weeds gotta go.

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>But they're even engineers working on building autonomous ones, like

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the Hordabot project in Denmark that's an autonomous weeding robot. Now.

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Right now, they're more popular in Europe than they are

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>in the United States because in Europe there are much

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>stricter regulations as far as the use of herbicides and

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>pesticides are concerned. In the United States, those restrictions haven't

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>reached that same level, so there's less incentive to invest

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>in this other technology because we already have an infrastructure

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>for pesticides and herbicides. But assuming that that eventually changes,

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>will probably see that migrate over here to the United

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>States as well. And just the thought of having a

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>robot out there taking care of all that without having

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to actually do it yourself is pretty pretty awesome. Yeah, So,

0:33:56.600 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, the technology stands to really benefit us in

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>lots of ways. Any others that you want to talk

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>about before we transition to our our other kind of

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the dark side of technology and agriculture. I've got a

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 1>low tech version of what you were just talking about,

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>that weeding machine. It's gonna come up. How about at

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the end of the podcast we'll talk about some farm hacks.

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 1>That sounds great and again low tech, but it's a

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>it's an interesting development, yeah, because part of the thing,

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>like like we were saying, farmers, ranchers, they are the

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>problem solvers. Sometimes that means they come up with creative

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>ways to use pre existing technology in perhaps methods that

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 1>weren't originally intended small scale, large scale, all scales really. Yeah,

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>but before we get into that, let's talk about tractors.

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about this. Yeah, yeah, Now, I know you

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>would be, Scott because it deals a lot with not

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 1>just agriculture, but there is a lot of crossover to

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the automotive world and what we're going to talk about.

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>So the great side of this ag tech we've been

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about is that it can potentially very much increase uh,

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the efficiency of farms. It can end up decreasing the

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>amount of work needed to do. However, there is a

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 1>flip side to this. The flip side is As technology

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>increases in sophistication, it becomes much more difficult to do

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:24.399
<v Speaker 1>any d I Y maintenance, repair, tweaking, any of that.

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>It gets harder and hard to do. And we're seeing

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that now, not just in these giant like cloud based

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>services we were talking about, but in tractors. This is

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a great source of frustration among farmers today is that

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the modern tractor is much like the automobile, nearly impossible

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>to diagnose and repair on your own, you know, in

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the in the barn, in the field wherever. Um you know,

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>days of you know, being able to use, as they

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>said in this article from Wired, using you know, making

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a duct tape and baling wire repair. Uh, it's it's becoming,

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, less and less possible for stuff like that

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>to happen, because now we're dealing with much more are

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>many more UM electronic components, you know, modules that that

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 1>talked each other on a can bus system UM that

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 1>you know is controlled by one central computer, and in

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>order to access that computer you have to have very

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>specific diagnostic tools and connectors and UM factory passwords that

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, you just have no idea what those passwords

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 1>are because they vary between make and model in different years.

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>And UM, it's becoming very very complex for the common uh,

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>modern farmer to be able to and I don't mean

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>common by the driver, the average farmer, the average farmer

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>to be able to make his machinery work in an

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>optimal way as he could in the past. I mean

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>whether it's adjusting the timing on the tractor or something

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that's just out of calibration. You need to reset that. Uh,

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>it's becoming virtually impossible to do that without the proper tools.

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>And these tools are very expensive. Or there's a flip

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>side of this, some of them even require a technician

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>to be brought to the tractor because you can't just

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't drive it down to the dealership. You can't

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>throw it on the on a trailer and haul it

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:11.399
<v Speaker 1>into town. Um, it's much more complexness because we're talking

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>about machines that are two stories high have twelve wheels. Uh,

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>they are. There are half a million dollar machines now

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>there and I'm no joke, there are half a million

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 1>dollars in some cases. Uh. In this article we read

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 1>on Wired again, I think they're talking about a mid

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.840
<v Speaker 1>range tractor and the mid rains tractors were you know,

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>somewhere above one hundred thousand dollars. So these are very

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>very expensive machines and it could be incredibly frustrating for

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>farmers to to realize that. Well, you know, we just

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about how important it is that you know, you

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>plant this this uh this crop on noon or at

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>noon on Wednesday. Well, what happens when that machine goes

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 1>down and you have to fly on a technician in

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>order to repair that machine, right, and it's and then

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 1>three days have gone by and you still haven't planted

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>any Yeah, and your and your tractor is still stuck

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the field because you know, some

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>modules not communicating to another module. But you can't do

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>anything about that until you get the technician there. And meanwhile,

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you're watching the estimations of your yield drops steadily, yeah,

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>because you're getting those stupid smartphone alert Now, man, you're

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you're really messing up this crap what you're doing, Hey, buddy,

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 1>you get off your buttons. They're planning becoming more and

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 1>more you know, insulting as the day goes on. Right. So, so,

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:28.280
<v Speaker 1>just like like cars have their own little control units,

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 1>tractors like you mentioned have them that they tend to

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>be called tractor engine control units or or t e

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>c use tech coos, and yeah, they're they're They're also

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>often proprietary, kind of like we've talked about proprietary connectors

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>here on on tech stuff before. This is where you

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 1>don't use a universal connector. You have very specific ones

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>that work with that particular technology, and if you don't

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>own that, and generally speaking, these are things that are

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>not sold to the public, then you cannot get access.

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>You cannot easily access the the the computer that's aboard

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the tractor. I talked about this all the time, like

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember, Uh, I hate to shame any company, but

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it in this case. Uh. Well, the

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Apple is a great example. Apple's connectors are all proprietary

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to Apple. But Sony was very much the same way.

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember having a Sony camera and it had a

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>USB connector, but the end connector was proprietary. You couldn't

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 1>just go out and buy a mini USB or micro

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 1>USB and use that pair that with your Sony camera.

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>You had to go out and buy a very expensive

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Sony one or try and find some off brand knockoff

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that may or may not work with your camera. Well,

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>imagine that frustration magnified to a hundred thousand dollar or

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>more machine, an investment, a significant investment that not only

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a significant investment, but you're the success of your

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:59.399
<v Speaker 1>business depends upon it working, and you can't even find

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 1>out why it's no longer working. So the article talks

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>about how there was The author talks about a farmer

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 1>friend who had called the author out to check on

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the tractor. Right, the tractor was no longer working. There

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>was a sensor that was burning out, and what they

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>were trying to do is find a way to route

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>the tractor systems around the sensor so that the tractor

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>could at least be operational until the sensor could be

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:31.760
<v Speaker 1>replaced repair right. And the issue that the author found

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>was that the system was completely inaccessible, not that it

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>was physically inaccessible in the sense that there was no

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>way to get to the computer, but there was no

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 1>way to connect to it. So I guess in that sense,

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>it's physically inaccessible and it's all running on proprietary software,

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>so there was no way to even see how the

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>system works, let alone reroute anything. Now, this is a

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>little different than cars, because cars recently and in since

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I think, have had the same diagnostic port underneath the

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:01.919
<v Speaker 1>steering you know, you can you can reach around under

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>your car and feel it there. You've probably had, you know,

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>somebody at the local oil change place plug into that

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>just to get stats of your vehicle, you know, like

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>the last time you're there and test or something exactly right. Yeah,

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>So there are standards in automobiles and that's not the

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>case with these tractors. And and I have a feeling that,

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, the next decade or so, some of that's

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>going to be ironed out, that you know, there's gonna

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>be some some some type of uniformity among tracker manufacturers

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>that's going to help out just a little bit. But

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>still that doesn't really, that doesn't help a whole lot

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>because unless they conform to a standard um UM software

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 1>package I guess that that operates all these it's not

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna do much good unless you have you know that

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 1>as well. And they can still hang onto that unless

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 1>part of this whole legislation thing includes that they have

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to use these a certain like like a standardized approach

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>across the board. Yeah, and I don't see that happening

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm off base here.

0:41:57.960 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's not going to be controlled the way the

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 1>automo deal industry is. Maybe it's going to be a

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>little different, maybe it'll be a little tougher. But I

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>also kind of think that I don't know, maybe this

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>is not true that you tell me. It seems like

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 1>some of these systems are being becoming so complex that

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>farmers are beginning to kind of buck the system. They're saying,

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily want that five dollar John Deer tractor.

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get this nineteen seventy version of the

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 1>same thing that it really does everything that I need,

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's all mechanical, it's not electronic. That is absolutely happening.

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 1>We're seeing the market for brand new tractors start to

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>suffer while the market for pre computerized tractors is blossoming. So,

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>in other words, this limited supply because you know that

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 1>time's past though they're not really people making those anymore. Yeah,

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're gonna go totally back to that.

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just mean maybe they need to back

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 1>it down a little bit bigger. Right there. There's a

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>now a market for the older equipment. Yeah, and it

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>may even be that, uh, that could end up inspiring

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a change anyway, where the questions come in, like how

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:08.439
<v Speaker 1>how much of this new technology that's being incorporated into

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:15.280
<v Speaker 1>tractors is of of real demonstrable benefit to the farmer

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 1>or the rancher, Like how can you show that this

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's supposed to make the tractor more efficient? Is

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it measurably more efficient because of these features? All right?

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, because the features you mentioned features,

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and I gotta say this, but but there they are

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>just like driving like a luxury yacht or something. I

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know, yeah, maybe a luxury RVU in a field.

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 1>They're incredible. Have you seen the interiors of these things?

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I have not. There there again, like a story and

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>a half high, so you've got a great view of

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>your field. You've got leather rep steering wheels, of course,

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the seats are super cushy, and they're on a suspension

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>system almost like you'd find in a semi truck something

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>like that. Very soft. Um. They've got air conditioning, of course,

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>they've got CD players, DVD players of course, media inputs

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and out not you know, the CDs, I know, they're gone, right,

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:06.800
<v Speaker 1>they're giving me the scal from you know andoth whatever.

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Well they have that too, Yeah, but of course all

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>the screens for the GPS systems and everything. They've got

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>autonomous features. You can go autopilot, you can go semi autonomous,

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you can go fully autonomous in some cases. Um oh,

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 1>this is when one cool feature. I don't know if

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 1>they can give this up. This would be tough to

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>give up. Let's say you're driving a grain harvester and

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>we can all picture what that looks like. I mean,

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people call them combines, but

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>grain harvester combines the same idea. They have that huge

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>shoot at the back that it just pours out corn

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it happens to be wheat. Um. There's another

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>vehicle that follows behind. It's usually a truck, but it's

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>got a giant bin on it. It It looks like a

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 1>just a big box and it pours everything that it's

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>harvesting into that box as it drives along. They drive

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>along in tandem. There is a technology that they call

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 1>follow me technology, and what it does is it it

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 1>completely automates the following vehicle, so no one has to

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:01.800
<v Speaker 1>drive that second vehicle. There's someone in there manning the harvester,

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the the you know, the vehicle that's that's gathering the material,

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 1>but there's nobody in the box and the one that

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>just carries the box. So that way it's always following

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>it precisely the right distance at the precisely little right speed.

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I eat, whether the you know, the operator adjust that

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>speed up or down doesn't matter. That is always going

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 1>to be exactly where it is. It's never It's called

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 1>following technology. That's pretty cool. It eliminates at least one

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>other person has to do that. They can do something

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 1>else on the farm. And then I don't know if

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>this is possible or not, but wouldn't be cool if, like,

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:33.959
<v Speaker 1>when it's full it could it could signal that, you know, okay,

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>we stopped for right for now, and they do that

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and then another one takes his place. I don't know

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>if that's possible yet or not. It seems like it

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>would be. Yeah, swap out technology. I would imagine that

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.840
<v Speaker 1>you could do that. You would just have essentially, uh,

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:50.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, designating Clone one and Clone two, and then

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you just Clone one return home clone to take its

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 1>place Clone two or Clone one, you know, drop off

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 1>the load and return to the feed that kind of thing.

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>It seems like it would be oh cool if you

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>had like the system of like three vehicles that were

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>just continually operating, because then you have minimum downtime. Yeah,

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 1>very cool. I mean, so there's some really interesting stuff

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:10.359
<v Speaker 1>that goes along with it. But I gotta say that,

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, some of this is really kind of rubbing

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>me the wrong way, and that you know, I think

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>it would because I mean, I I have I felt

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>the frustration of the you know, opening the hood and

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 1>not being able to do anything with my own car.

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine what it's like if you've got a

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollar machine that you have to have running

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>by Wednesday at noon, specifically to plant that field, and

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not operating and there's nothing you can do about

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it except fly a guy in from Utah to to

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>fix it in the field. And even then, you know,

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you gotta pay for his ticket to come there. You

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 1>gotta for the repair itself, which is not going to

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 1>be cheap. You've gotta hope that whatever the repair is

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.800
<v Speaker 1>works and that it's sustained. Because I've read stories about

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 1>guys who would fly out mechanics to come and or actually,

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess technicians, it goes beyond mechanic because you're actually

0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 1>having to use the the authorized proprietary approach to even

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 1>access the systems on board the vehicle. And you end

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 1>up doing some work and then the person leaves and

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:12.919
<v Speaker 1>your vehicle works for a little while and then breaks

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>down again, and then you think, well, I can't this.

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>This isn't something sustainable. I can't keep doing this. You

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 1>can't keep that cycle going. So what are you gonna do.

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna just let that thing sit in the barn

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.919
<v Speaker 1>and collect dust, or you're gonna get a tractor from

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty five years ago that works every day and you

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>know how to repair right. It may not have it

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>certainly doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but if

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>it works and you can keep it in working condition,

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a very powerful story. Yeah. We talk about in

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>in the text sphere, we talk about this approach, this uh,

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 1>this trend really and it's across all areas of electronics

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 1>as the black box trend. And a black box essentially

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 1>means any system or group of systems that is either

0:47:55.880 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 1>sufficiently complex enough or is protected against you accessing it,

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>so meaning that you know, in the old days, the

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:09.240
<v Speaker 1>really like the birth of the personal computer age, people

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>were hacking, like physically hacking machines to make them do

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:16.439
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of stuff right, Um, And as they get

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.720
<v Speaker 1>more and more sophisticated, it's harder to do that, either

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 1>because it's just so complicated that it's rare for any

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>one person to understand all the systems that are involved,

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>or companies have gone to great links to keep certain

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:34.919
<v Speaker 1>components completely shielded from you tweaking them. So you own

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the physical machine itself, you want the engine, you want

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the transmission on the wheels, the axles, all that, the chassis. However,

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the company, the you know, the parent company, owns the

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 1>software that makes your machine operates. So you're you're really

0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>stuck there. You're essentially driving a black box. Yeah, and

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:53.880
<v Speaker 1>it means that you have to if you if you

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.440
<v Speaker 1>ever have to do any maintenance or repair, UH, you

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty much have very few options open to you other

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>than contacting an official person from that company to come

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and perform the maintenance and repair. This has actually led

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to UH a lot of people kind of lumping in

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:19.280
<v Speaker 1>agricultural technology under the Right to Repair Act, which really

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.760
<v Speaker 1>is not a single act. It's actually lots of different

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 1>legislation introduced in many different states, and not just singly

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 1>focused on agriculture. In fact, the main focus was automotive.

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 1>The idea being that a person who purchases a vehicle

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:38.919
<v Speaker 1>should have the expectation that they could do repairs themselves

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>or take that vehicle to an independent mechanic who also

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:48.840
<v Speaker 1>could do those repairs other instead of having to be

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 1>forced to take them to the source the manufacturer. That's

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the that's the point behind it. Stay tuned for the

0:49:57.200 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 1>exciting conclusion of this tex Stuff Classic ep pisode right

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>after we take this break. If you do want to

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 1>do repairs yourself, if you are absolutely determined that you're

0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:18.319
<v Speaker 1>going to do those repairs that maintenance yourself, you're going

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to go to whatever links necessary in order to do that.

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:23.239
<v Speaker 1>What you would have to do is get hold of

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a computer and some software and a connector that works

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>with that particular make and model of that vehicle. And

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you'd have to be doing it essentially illegally. Yeah, and

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:37.680
<v Speaker 1>there's also because this is a piracy issue, right, and

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:41.080
<v Speaker 1>there's also the the issue of the password, the manufacturer

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 1>provided password. Now that's something that they hold pretty close

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:47.239
<v Speaker 1>to their chest. I mean, that's something that but of course,

0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>if you've already got the software loaded onto a laptop,

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you've likely already got the pat you know, somebody with

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the password as well. We're talking about a gray market here, aren't. Yeah. Yeah,

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a gray market for machines that have that software

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>loaded onto it already. So that if you, if you

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>want to try and do these kind of uh, you know,

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 1>at least diagnose what's wrong with you know, you might

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 1>not even know yet, you know, and it may be

0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:16.399
<v Speaker 1>something very simple. And lack of knowledge is terrible right

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>for anybody, because you are completely dependent upon what someone

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 1>else says, yeah, and you don't necessarily know. If you're

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>someone like I'm not a car guy, Scott. If I

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:31.760
<v Speaker 1>take my wife's vehicle into a mechanic and he says, oh,

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 1>problem is your hobbit fell off your unicorn, I'd be like,

0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that sounds right, but I don't know,

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:39.359
<v Speaker 1>so I guess I gotta pay you this ten dollars. Yeah,

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I understand. I feel a lot of people are in

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 1>that position. If you just if you don't have the

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the the knowledge ahead of time when you come in

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and what it possibly could be, you feel like you

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 1>might be taken and and that is another source of frustration,

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 1>is that you're at the mercy of the manufacturer at

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.959
<v Speaker 1>that point, because they can tell you anything, and you'd say, well, okay,

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>here's the manufacturer telling me that's what it is. It

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:03.319
<v Speaker 1>has to be that, and and a lot of people

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.160
<v Speaker 1>are just like, well, I'd rather I'd rather know that,

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.439
<v Speaker 1>find that out for myself, you know, or maybe narrow

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 1>down to three possible things. And if they tell me

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 1>one of the three things, I'll believe it. If they

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 1>say something, you know, from out and left field, then

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna question that rist them why I'm gonna follow

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>up with him. But it's just easier to accept if

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you do that research ahead of time. And the problem

0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 1>is that if you want to access the tractor's computer,

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you are essentially breaking the law, because the Digital Millennial

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Copyright Act specifically makes it illegal to try to get

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:46.959
<v Speaker 1>around or break protection around any sort of DRM. Now,

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 1>typically we think of d r M as something that

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>happens to be attached to a music file or a

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>computer file, not a tractor, but the principle is the same.

0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And while I'm not necessarily. I don't know that we're

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 1>going to live in a world where John Deere is

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:05.400
<v Speaker 1>going to sue a farmer because the farmer chose to

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 1>get around. The point is, under the law, they would

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:12.360
<v Speaker 1>be completely within their right to do that because the

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.919
<v Speaker 1>d m c A allows for it. And that's why

0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the Right to Repair Act this this group, these various

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 1>elements of legislation that are in different stages. Only Massachusetts

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I think, has actually passed a Right to Repair Act

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 1>into law. But what that says is that it should

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>they should get an exception essentially to d m c

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 1>A that that in order to do repairs on something, uh,

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:43.799
<v Speaker 1>it should not be considered illegal to bypass this protection

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>because it means that you have created kind of almost

0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like a monopoly. Like you you have created only one

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:54.160
<v Speaker 1>means of addressing the problem. And it also means that

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 1>people who are like you know, independent mechanics who do

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:01.680
<v Speaker 1>not work for any specific manufacture or dealership or whatever,

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 1>they're seeing their business decline because if more and more

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of the vehicles have to be taken to those dealerships

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 1>or individual or manufacturers, then the mechanics don't they don't

0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>they aren't getting as much work or less and less

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:20.279
<v Speaker 1>need for the older equipment to be repaired. Unless they

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:23.279
<v Speaker 1>start to turn towards using that old is going to

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:25.160
<v Speaker 1>flourish again. And can I can I just say that

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:27.799
<v Speaker 1>we're we're not picking on John Dear. It's just an

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:30.239
<v Speaker 1>easy example for us to make that everybody is familiar with.

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:35.960
<v Speaker 1>But all of the modern tractor manufacturers are doing similar things. Yes,

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's not like, you know, John DearS, you know

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.319
<v Speaker 1>some evil corporation doing this on their own, and that's

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the only one that's like that. And to get their equipment,

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you have to submit to this. It's it's everybody, and

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and these companies have, you know, very understandable reasons for

0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:53.760
<v Speaker 1>pursuing this sort of stuff too. It's not like their

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:56.800
<v Speaker 1>motives are. They're not all slightly whiplash. They're not twirling

0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 1>their mustaches as the train is coming down the triplis that.

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Don't you agree though, that if they wanted to make

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 1>it easier on the on the ordinary farmer that they

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 1>were on the on the average farmer, that they would

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe not make it password encrypted. You I think, I

0:55:10.160 --> 0:55:13.840
<v Speaker 1>think what my own personal opinion is that they could

0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:17.440
<v Speaker 1>throw in a simple device that hooks up to the

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 1>tractor and gives a readout of exactly what's wrong. Maybe

0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 1>just a diagnostic tool, but maybe it's something that's uh

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 1>boy that you know, what level do you allow it

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:29.360
<v Speaker 1>to go to? Though? Because you start allowing everybody to

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>recalibrate your machines, there's gonna be problems and they're going

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to blame the manufacturers to So how would you how

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:37.799
<v Speaker 1>would you ever determine what level you would allow them

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:40.719
<v Speaker 1>to fix or repair their own machine versus this is

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:42.799
<v Speaker 1>a factory repair. This is something that we have to

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:45.640
<v Speaker 1>do right, and and when you are getting into this

0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>level of sophistication and complexity, it is not an easy

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:53.320
<v Speaker 1>questioned answer, right because, uh, some people, you know, you

0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 1>might say, all right, well, here are all the basic

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 1>mechanical systems that we think people should reasonably be expected

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 1>to be able to address. Here are some of the

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 1>ones that we think are beyond the pale when it

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 1>comes to the average person's ability to access it and

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>change it. The problem is then make sure that the

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 1>ones that you can't touch essentially aren't also going to

0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>completely shut down the vehicle should they go bad. Yeah,

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's incredibly difficult. There's there's so many

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:30.719
<v Speaker 1>possibilities here that I don't know what the answer is.

0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I really don't but it. But it does seem to

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:34.680
<v Speaker 1>me that if they would at least allow them access

0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to to look into the T C T E C

0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:40.239
<v Speaker 1>U and figure out what's going on, at least at

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 1>least to understand, all right, the problem is with this

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 1>hydraulic sensor over here on this on my number eight

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 1>wheel or however they designate that. Um, then they would

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:51.880
<v Speaker 1>at least know, Okay, that's where I'm gonna look, and

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 1>that's where the problem is gonna be. Then know, um,

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:57.279
<v Speaker 1>it just gives you a better better sense of what's

0:56:57.320 --> 0:57:00.319
<v Speaker 1>going on. No, no, no, I I agree. I think

0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I think being ignorant of the situation just adds to stress.

0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Instead of just calling the manufacturer and saying, well, my

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 1>tractor doesn't work. Yeah, I mean, then you would at

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:10.400
<v Speaker 1>least say, like, well, I'm having a problem with my

0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:13.120
<v Speaker 1>my number eight wheel by hydrock sensors doing this. But

0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:15.240
<v Speaker 1>you can't even do that now, and that's the problem.

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:19.840
<v Speaker 1>So super frustrating on both sides. Now, one thing that's

0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 1>not frustrating, the thing that we wanted to kind of

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 1>conclude with is that some farmers have found really creative

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 1>means to boosting their efficiency by taking matters into their

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:36.440
<v Speaker 1>own hands, by actually hacking either systems or are tools

0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 1>in order to get more efficient. Scott, you looked into

0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 1>this source of stuff, Yes, I did. There's a site

0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:43.920
<v Speaker 1>called farmhacks. Now. Farmhas kind of came about when I

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 1>was reading about the gray market and um, you know

0:57:46.240 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 1>some of the software proprietary stuff you're talking about, like

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe a friend of a friend as a laptop that

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you could use the software in the passwords. Well, they said, well,

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:56.920
<v Speaker 1>there there's sites out there that can help you with

0:57:57.040 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 1>some problems, not all problems like that, but looking farm hacks,

0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and there's a site called farmhack dot org. And I

0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 1>can just give you a few examples, just quick examples,

0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 1>but there's probably I don't know, maybe two hundred examples

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 1>on this site so far of just really simple things.

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:15.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's exactly what it sounds like. It's it's they're

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:17.520
<v Speaker 1>not all high tech either. Um, some of them are

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 1>are you know, large grand scale projects, and others are

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>very very small, like made in a five gallon bucket

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:26.240
<v Speaker 1>type small. So really really small like let's say they

0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:29.480
<v Speaker 1>got a problem of I don't know, the the the

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:33.000
<v Speaker 1>metal pan that you put the chickens water in on

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:36.000
<v Speaker 1>your small farm, it keeps freezing in the wintertime. But

0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the solutions that are out there, you know, in a

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess in the consumer realm, are you know a

0:58:42.760 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 1>two heater for this thing? And you don't want to

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:46.959
<v Speaker 1>pay two bucks for that? You just got a small farm.

0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:49.080
<v Speaker 1>You got ten chickens to take care of her? Twenty chickens?

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:50.720
<v Speaker 1>What do you do you want to you want the

0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 1>five dollar solutions? So you know, you go to this

0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>farm haack site and they've got a solution there for you,

0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's things like that. So um. One thing that

0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:01.440
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned earlier was the the automatic weating machine, the

0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:04.560
<v Speaker 1>robotic weating machine. Yeah, well here's an idea that This

0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:07.960
<v Speaker 1>one at farm Farm hacks Head and they're called farm bikes,

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and there's a bunch of different types of farm bikes,

0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 1>but one of them that really caught my eye was

0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the type that writers live face down just above the ground.

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>So you're you're kind of on a almost like in

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 1>a sling, just above the ground, kind of maybe a

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 1>little less than arms length and big wheels that go

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 1>down the rose you know where there aren't plants, and

0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you pedal this with your feet behind you, so it's

0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 1>like a reverse recumbent bike almost. You're you're laying head first,

0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 1>so you're like you're like flying over the weeds like Superman. Yes,

0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 1>picking weeds. Yes. And there's buckets hanging next to you

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and you can pick them. And it's very very simple,

0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and you can have two people, three people, however big

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you want to make this device, you know, this this

0:59:46.760 --> 0:59:49.440
<v Speaker 1>thing and again it's foot power, you know, it's pedal powered.

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:52.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just like a bicycle. It's just a rework bike really.

0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:55.280
<v Speaker 1>So it's a very low tech version of the automated

0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 1>wating machine that you talked about. It's only it's not automated.

0:59:57.680 --> 1:00:01.080
<v Speaker 1>It's human powered and and humans are are suspended they're

1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:03.000
<v Speaker 1>doing that. But it's it's a weird thing to look at,

1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:05.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's it is so smart. When you look at it,

1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:07.760
<v Speaker 1>you realize, like that that's the way to pick wheats.

1:00:07.920 --> 1:00:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to try that, just to try

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.680
<v Speaker 1>it now. It's fun. I'd almost like to ride it

1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:15.760
<v Speaker 1>fast on the street. The only thing is that you

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<v Speaker 1>would you would imagine that their ability to maneuver is

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<v Speaker 1>probably somewhat limited, seeing is how it was designed to

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<v Speaker 1>go straight down. It's mostly straight. The turning is a

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<v Speaker 1>little subject. Right, So there's a few and well just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of let's quickly go through these ships. We're nearing

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<v Speaker 1>the end here. But um, of course there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of three D printed parts on the site. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because you know, I knew you've talked about them

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<v Speaker 1>many times. We've talked about them on car stuff. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about things like seed rollers or spray nozzles.

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<v Speaker 1>Any any non electric tractor part maybere far, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>any any implement part that you can think of, you

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<v Speaker 1>could you could do a three D printed part for that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>how about this homemade livestock scales for about a third

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<v Speaker 1>of the price. It's something you don't really think about.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to weigh those cattle before they go on

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<v Speaker 1>the truck to the to the market. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Well, you have to buy a scale, and

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<v Speaker 1>the scale can be you know, thousands of dollars, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars for one. If you could do the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, if you can create your own for about

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<v Speaker 1>a third of the price. Of course you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, so why not and it's just as effective. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>how about let's see quick attachments. Uh, you know ideas

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<v Speaker 1>for quick attachment. Um, for things that require like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a three point hitch, very difficult to line up and

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<v Speaker 1>get it get correct. But just simple ways around that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, things that that speed up your time, that

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<v Speaker 1>that maximize efficiency. It's like a plug in play approach. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very very similar. You're exactly right. Um. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about mobile temperature alarms and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of pro rr apps out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that are not advertising the site, but people are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I use this one. It really works, So you can

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<v Speaker 1>go there and kind of Again, this is back to

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<v Speaker 1>the the shared ideas, the community aspect of the collective expertise. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that way, you know, if your greenhouse gets

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<v Speaker 1>above or below temperature, you're alerted no matter where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in town buying feed for the livestock or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the greenhouse is getting a little too hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get back there and set that or you

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<v Speaker 1>can manage or you know, maybe it could be an

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<v Speaker 1>automated system. Yeah, so what about if UM Again I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the five gallon bucket thing, but UM humidifiers for

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<v Speaker 1>small buildings in barns or whatever, you know, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a simple thing to do. There's UH bucket based humidifiers

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<v Speaker 1>that you can make that that are continually refilled themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a self sustaining system that it's very smart

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<v Speaker 1>and it's there on that site. UM also compost sensors

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<v Speaker 1>again for recording temperatures inside the compost piles. And you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't think that's important, but some of those compost piles

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<v Speaker 1>can self combust. They can spontaneously combust because they get

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<v Speaker 1>too incredible temperatures. I've seen piles of mulch and dirt

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<v Speaker 1>and things that that are steaming in the winter because

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<v Speaker 1>they get so high. You have to go out and

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<v Speaker 1>turn them. They keep them cooler, they'll they'll just burn up.

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<v Speaker 1>Compost is the exact same way. What about biodesel biodiesel

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<v Speaker 1>processing trailers. Oh, we talked about biodiesel quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>times on text, so also on forward thinking biodiesel is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool stuff. You uh, you can essentially use that

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<v Speaker 1>in place of diesel. Some diesel engines take it like

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<v Speaker 1>you could have pure biodiesel. Some diesel engines will process

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<v Speaker 1>it just fine. Are other ones where you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>have more of a mix between diesel and bio diesel.

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<v Speaker 1>But so this is this is something that you could

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<v Speaker 1>use like like a self contained trailer. So you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a biodiesel processing um I'll call it a plant, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's smaller than that. It's a it's about diesel processing

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<v Speaker 1>um uh system, and it's it's a way to house

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<v Speaker 1>that in a trailer safely and to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>use your product, your your waste products, whatever that happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be. So whatever you farm, you're able to use

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<v Speaker 1>the corn husks or whatever decrease stuff or algae or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you have access to to be able to create

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<v Speaker 1>your own fuel for your own farm. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very smart thing to do. Yeah, I mean, otherwise you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the stuff that would just be waste that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be able to find one or two other

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<v Speaker 1>uses for it. But reuse of this stuff, making use

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<v Speaker 1>of as much of the crop as possible is another

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<v Speaker 1>means of reducing environmental impact and increasing efficiency, cutting your

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<v Speaker 1>fuel costs at the same time. Very very important for farmers.

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<v Speaker 1>So things like pedal powered root washers for like things

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<v Speaker 1>like carrots and potatoes, you know, just small stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>this that you wouldn't think of, but you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's just going to uh, you know, maybe harvest

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<v Speaker 1>a small area that's you know a couple of hundred

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<v Speaker 1>feet and they want to take it into a local

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<v Speaker 1>farmers market or something. They gotta find some way to

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<v Speaker 1>wash that before they bring it into town, and they

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<v Speaker 1>can be a very time consuming process. So these pedal

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<v Speaker 1>powered root washers that are very effective, very efficient, um

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<v Speaker 1>smart design. You're just use an old bicycle in a

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<v Speaker 1>tub of some kind. Yeah, I've actually I've actually seen

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<v Speaker 1>an entire uh nonprofit startup that does this very thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They take bicycles and they repurpose the bicycles into pedal

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<v Speaker 1>powered machine are much many of many of them are

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated toward farming, and they end up bringing them to

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<v Speaker 1>places where electricity isn't even always a part of life.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're seeing this in developing nations where it's really

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<v Speaker 1>improving people's ability to do more work with less effort

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<v Speaker 1>even in the absence of electricity. So agriculture, they could

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<v Speaker 1>use it to power radio. They just just about anything, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean power something that cooks. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. It's the one that was a pedal powered blender.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you go ahead and make your mixed drinks

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<v Speaker 1>right there. That's pretty good. I could use that this weekend. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, So let's just talk for a second about

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<v Speaker 1>how hot it is in Atlanta. Yes, the farmers, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be really feeling the heat right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that affects them because it's not every

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<v Speaker 1>day that when you know, the temperatures are in the

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred degree range and humid like this. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got its own heat indexes around a hundred twenty some days,

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<v Speaker 1>got its own set of circumstances to go along with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and I don't I don't have any idea

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<v Speaker 1>what it does to farmers, but I'm sure that it

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<v Speaker 1>just drives them crazy because you never know when it's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming, you don't know what week that's going to hit. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So this has been a really fun topic to talk about. This.

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<v Speaker 1>This is again one of those things where I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>really lent it much thought I really should. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a cousin who is um very much in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>He and IT does incredible work. He flies all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world working with farmers to help increase crop yields.

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<v Speaker 1>I should talk with him and see what other interesting

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<v Speaker 1>technologies are on the horizon, because he's awesome. What am

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<v Speaker 1>I doing on the other side. You've been talking with

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<v Speaker 1>that guy? Well, he's in Tokyo. It's hard to touch

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<v Speaker 1>base with it. I know a little bit, but he

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<v Speaker 1>knows a lot. Yeah, yeah, he knows better than to

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<v Speaker 1>come onto a podcast with me. Well, I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed that classic episode farming. I have to admit is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where it didn't really occur to

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<v Speaker 1>me that knowledge he could play a huge role. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I knew things like tractors and harvesters and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that were important, but over time tech has really

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionized our approach to agriculture, and I'm sure I could

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<v Speaker 1>do an update to this episode. If you have suggestions

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