Speaker 1: With the thirteenth pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphin select Kenneth Grant, defensive tackle. Michigan Fellas,
Speaker 1: I gotta jump in because I've been hearing about this
Speaker 1: kid since he was a true freshman going up there
Speaker 1: and meeting with the Wolverine coaches when Jim Harriba and
Speaker 1: I would sit down, all the way back to Mike
Speaker 1: McDonald and then Jesse Mentor or Wing Martindale, all the
Speaker 1: coordinators have been on that side of the ball. The
Speaker 1: first thing that that defense, and it's the Baltimore defense
Speaker 1: wants to do, is build the run wall. And guess
Speaker 1: who they talk about. They wouldn't talk about Mason Graham.
Speaker 1: They would talk about Kenneth Grant as being the guy
Speaker 1: that could be the best in the future. And one
Speaker 1: of the reasons is this play that you're looking at
Speaker 1: right there. He chased down Nick Singleton. He's got this
Speaker 1: rare motor for a guy that's three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: pounds and he doesn't even understand how good he is yet.
Speaker 1: I think his best football is ahead of him. He's
Speaker 1: a block destructor. He's a great locker room guy, and
Speaker 1: DJ I think he could be one of the premier
Speaker 1: defensive tackles in the National Football League in the coming years.
Speaker 2: What is up, Dolphans And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 2: I am your host, Travis Wingfield and on today's show, well,
Speaker 2: the pick is in. As you heard off the top
Speaker 2: of the show, Kenneth Grant, the massive Michigan defensive tackle
Speaker 2: is here. We're talking about this player, his tape, his
Speaker 2: metrics from his college production, his workouts, what his experts
Speaker 2: said and are saying about him, as you just heard
Speaker 2: there on the NFL Network broadcast, his testing metrics, how
Speaker 2: he fits in the defense, how he opens up things
Speaker 2: for Anthony Weaver and Austin Clark and company. We'll hear
Speaker 2: from Mike McDaniel and Chris Greer as they weigh in
Speaker 2: on the player throughout the course of the podcast. Here
Speaker 2: from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is the Draft Time Podcast. We're going to get
Speaker 2: into my tape study here on Kenneth Grant, who I
Speaker 2: thought was neck and neck with Mason Graham as the
Speaker 2: best defensive tackle in the class. He was one of
Speaker 2: the top guys on my board overall for this pick,
Speaker 2: for this selection. So I go home on this evening
Speaker 2: a happy camper. I had him and Jaday Baron pretty
Speaker 2: close as well as Tyler Warren, so I was happy
Speaker 2: with any of those three guys. I get one of
Speaker 2: those my favorite players here in this Classlet's go ahead
Speaker 2: and hear from the coach and the GM Chris Career.
Speaker 3: First on Kenneth Grant.
Speaker 4: For us, do you tackle is a big need, A
Speaker 4: big nose tackle, obviously, but we also we don't be
Speaker 4: almost just a run stopper. We do think he has
Speaker 4: ability to generate and you've first talked with the pass rush.
Speaker 4: It's not always about sacks. The ability to push the
Speaker 4: pocket in the middle is a huge thing in the
Speaker 4: NFL now and we think he has a tremendous work
Speaker 4: ethic an upside to do that. So we got to
Speaker 4: know him through the process the Pro day, and so
Speaker 4: again this was a player we're very excited.
Speaker 2: To add, and Mike McDaniel and how excited he is
Speaker 2: for both the player and the person that is Kenneth Grant.
Speaker 5: This this is a player know I think from the
Speaker 5: off season as it began and Chris and I talked
Speaker 5: about the way we can impact this team and some
Speaker 5: of the some of the things that there's real opportunities
Speaker 5: to impact, you know, one position, but multiple positions. And
Speaker 5: I think the most exciting part of really adding them
Speaker 5: is you love players that are good players, that make
Speaker 5: other people better players and continue to ascend to be
Speaker 5: you know, to have the desire to be great well.
Speaker 5: I think affects the run game, affects the pass game,
Speaker 5: effects the pocket You talk about some of the biggest
Speaker 5: impacts in the National Football League on pass downs is
Speaker 5: where the line of scrimmage is set or how much
Speaker 5: pocket push you can get. That in conjunction with some
Speaker 5: of the things that we'll be able to do from
Speaker 5: a defensive standpoint based upon you is in a skill
Speaker 5: set in the run game as well, where you can
Speaker 5: play various light boxes at times and have versatility as
Speaker 5: well as you know, a guy that can draw some
Speaker 5: attention from some other really good players. Either way, we
Speaker 5: feel like if you can add really good players on
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage, if we had the opportunity, we're
Speaker 5: really excited about that. And we jumped on this one
Speaker 5: with elation.
Speaker 2: And then I want to play this one. Coach was
Speaker 2: asked about what this pick says about the direction of
Speaker 2: the franchise. We discussed how taking a guard could change
Speaker 2: kind of a philosophy shift, how there's different things that
Speaker 2: Dolphins could do that would signify a potential philosophy shift,
Speaker 2: whether it's offense, defense, culture, whatever you might say. So
Speaker 2: coach was asked directly about what does this say about
Speaker 2: the direction of the franchise.
Speaker 3: Here's coach.
Speaker 5: It was important to us that we felt like we
Speaker 5: had an opportunity to pick at thirteen. That you don't
Speaker 5: always get that opportunity. You want to take advantage of
Speaker 5: it and you want to make sure that you do
Speaker 5: things so that you don't pick at that spot in
Speaker 5: the future. In that process, it was important to have
Speaker 5: a tonality set, you know, for the to the twenty
Speaker 5: twenty five Dolphins and adding you know, a real presence
Speaker 5: up front and a you know, just a just a
Speaker 5: player that is going to attack it and try to
Speaker 5: play to the tonality that that we aspire to. You know,
Speaker 5: I think I think it's very well in step with,
Speaker 5: you know, our vision as we approach the whole process
Speaker 5: open minded, but trying to you know, figure out by
Speaker 5: round how we can make the Dolphins better. So this, Uh,
Speaker 5: he's been on our mind for a long time, and
Speaker 5: we thoroughly over thoroughly vetted and so very excited about
Speaker 5: what we're adding because we feel like we have a
Speaker 5: very clear, clear picture of what that is.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go ahead and get into the tape
Speaker 2: here on Kenneth Grant. I feel like those guys as
Speaker 2: well as was that Joel Klatt off the open of
Speaker 2: the show talking about how great Kenneth Grant is, and look,
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh did call him, you know, guy's gift to football.
Speaker 2: You talk about Wink, Martin Dell and all the guys
Speaker 2: that have coach there in Michigan, and how you know
Speaker 2: how important that defensive line was to what they do
Speaker 2: in Michigan. We'll get to all that here in just
Speaker 2: one second. A lot of high praise for Kenneth Grant,
Speaker 2: but you start here at number seventy eight at Michigan.
Speaker 2: When you watch his tape, not a lot of guys
Speaker 2: in the world that are six foot four, three hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty four pounds and can move like that, who
Speaker 2: were light on their feet. I'm sure you've all seen
Speaker 2: the viral clip that played on the draft the first
Speaker 2: clip they played against Penn State where the back breaks
Speaker 2: through the line. He tries to make a move on
Speaker 2: a safety and that move gave Grant the extra step
Speaker 2: he needs to hawk him from twenty yards behind. The
Speaker 2: play a lah Christian Wilkins against the Raiders a few
Speaker 2: years ago. Again at three hundred and thirty four pounds,
Speaker 2: that size and the strength allows you to play him
Speaker 2: on the nose. He has plenty of reps as the
Speaker 2: zero technique head up over the center or the one
Speaker 2: shade on outside shoulder of either outside shoulder of the center,
Speaker 2: and he has pass rush wins there. Go watch his
Speaker 2: sack on Michael Pennix in the twenty twenty three National
Speaker 2: Championship game. He's actually a three technique on those reps,
Speaker 2: but he rushes the entire man, not just the you know,
Speaker 2: not just the shoulder of the guard, the entire left guard,
Speaker 2: which means that he has you know, two way go
Speaker 2: too gap responsibility.
Speaker 3: And when you have that and you can also just you.
Speaker 2: Know, mount up the power and roll it into the
Speaker 2: guy and put him on his back, that is really impressive.
Speaker 2: Like the guard goes down like a sack of potatoes
Speaker 2: and Grant just runs over him for the sack, and
Speaker 2: a National Championship game with sheer power and a player
Speaker 2: that moves like he does should not have that kind
Speaker 2: of power. And the first rep I pulled up on
Speaker 2: his tape was him doing a te stunt. The tackle
Speaker 2: or the end rather slants in and he and picks
Speaker 2: up the guard. And at three hundred and forty pounds,
Speaker 2: here comes Kenneth Grant looping around the outside and beating
Speaker 2: the left tackle around the edge. And that's Donovan Jackson,
Speaker 2: who was a first round pick tonight out of Ohio State,
Speaker 2: who you know, the first step quickness, the way he
Speaker 2: can bend the arc at that size, it is just
Speaker 2: it's really really impressive. I think he could benefit from
Speaker 2: some seasonings, some NFL coaching. If there's a reason that
Speaker 2: he didn't go top twenty in this draft, it was
Speaker 2: because sometimes he doesn't process things super fast and the
Speaker 2: feet can stop moving. But this is actually you know,
Speaker 2: it would be a big concern if it never got
Speaker 2: SYNCD up, but I don't think that'll happen here. That
Speaker 2: to me would fall more on the coaching staff. And
Speaker 2: we have Austin Clark, who's coached pretty much every player
Speaker 2: to be a good one here. Deshan Han but Ato
Speaker 2: Jones last year both had career years. You saw Zach's
Speaker 2: either development, Christian Wilkins development, Like, give Austin Clark someone
Speaker 2: to work with, and I feel pretty confident about the
Speaker 2: work he can do. And it's little things like pad level,
Speaker 2: you know, the feet stopping at times and maybe trying
Speaker 2: to play like a hero rep every once in a while.
Speaker 2: Outside of that, there's not a lot that I didn't love.
Speaker 3: On the tape.
Speaker 2: Like we talked about this with Davis on the podcast
Speaker 2: a while back, grade the flashes, and to me, the
Speaker 2: Flashes were top five worthy in the entire class. Some
Speaker 2: of the snap to snap consistency, maybe some of the
Speaker 2: willingness to just eat a block and survive the rep
Speaker 2: opposed to like there was a rep where he's getting
Speaker 2: double with the point of attack and he tries to
Speaker 2: fight against it upstream and when you go against it
Speaker 2: a rip current, that's how you bury yourself even further. Right,
Speaker 2: But like, even on that rep, the gap that he
Speaker 2: leaves exposes an easy fill because he holds up the
Speaker 2: first man on the combo block enough that it requires
Speaker 2: a longer attachment from the secondary block, which then frees
Speaker 2: up the linebacker to run in and shut that thing
Speaker 2: down for no gain.
Speaker 3: So I think about the way he can impact.
Speaker 2: Steeler and Jordan Brooks and Willie Gay and Jalen Phillips
Speaker 2: and Bradley Chubb and Chop Robinson.
Speaker 3: You really can see the fit there.
Speaker 2: I think he can get a little bit narrow, especially
Speaker 2: in his approach, and his heels click a little bit.
Speaker 2: But that to me is a sign of just a
Speaker 2: lack of reps. He only has one thousand and fifty
Speaker 2: reps in his career and a lot of tred left
Speaker 2: on those tires. If you've seen a rep of him
Speaker 2: one gapping and losing, please share it with me, because
Speaker 2: I have not seen it yet on his tape and
Speaker 2: I've watched six of this guy's games now. And the
Speaker 2: way I think that could incorporate with what we do.
Speaker 2: How we have all those electric first step athletes with
Speaker 2: premiere ten split times, Like gosh, you got all these
Speaker 2: guys that with options to mug up in the A
Speaker 2: gaps and show pressure from Brooks to Dotson to Gay
Speaker 2: to Chop condensing inside a nosebacker. And I think about
Speaker 2: that next to a pairing of Seiler and Grant Seiler,
Speaker 2: who has the best length and hands in the damn
Speaker 2: game at the position. And then Grant, who I think
Speaker 2: can be an elite one gap penetrator of the minute
Speaker 2: he puts on an NFL helmet. That's a tough, tough
Speaker 2: ask for sixty snaps from imposing offensive line. He's got
Speaker 2: plenty of good plenty good at dropping the anchor as
Speaker 2: a two gapper against the run. In fact, a lot
Speaker 2: of folks think that run stuffing is his mo from
Speaker 2: the start, Stack it up with the nose. Does a
Speaker 2: ton of that in his college tape because he was
Speaker 2: frequently doubled there at Michigan. But when they cut him
Speaker 2: loose and told him to rush the outside shoulder of
Speaker 2: the center or the inside shoulder of the guard, he
Speaker 2: just blows right past them. Then he had a pretty
Speaker 2: good arm over and swim move to free himself as well.
Speaker 2: I do think the secondary of moves could use some polish,
Speaker 2: But you know, that's what coaches for. That's what coaching
Speaker 2: is for. That's how you develop players. They always say, like,
Speaker 2: don't get too over hyped on pass rush arsenal because
Speaker 2: that stuff can be taught. It's the traits and the
Speaker 2: rare movement that you really put the high grades on,
Speaker 2: and that's what Kenneth Grant has. He is really really
Speaker 2: electric off the football. I think he'll draw a lot
Speaker 2: of holding calls because guys are bracing for the strength
Speaker 2: and the momentum of three hundred and forty pounds and
Speaker 2: how he knows how to play to that size and power.
Speaker 2: As they dig their cleats into the ground, he just
Speaker 2: crosses their face with a quick first step and now
Speaker 2: they've got to uproot themselves and try to match his speed,
Speaker 2: which I don't think any offensive lineman can do. You
Speaker 2: know the Mike McDaniel comment, like every single offensive lineman
Speaker 2: every single week in the NFL is outmatched by the
Speaker 2: athletic ability of the defensive line. Like that's Kenneth Grant,
Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty four pounds, thirty one inch vertical
Speaker 2: jump like you know, a blazing fast ten split.
Speaker 3: He's They're not supposed to move like that.
Speaker 2: And every rep where I've seen him as a zero
Speaker 2: tech and Michigan walks up backers to show pressure where
Speaker 2: they career at these one on one chances, he just
Speaker 2: flat out smokes these big ten interior offensive lineman, like
Speaker 2: it's over before it even begins. It reminds me of
Speaker 2: watching Chop versus Michigan last year. They pretty much abandoned
Speaker 2: the entire passing game because they had no answer for him.
Speaker 2: And this is every time Michigan was able to generate
Speaker 2: a one on one, zero or one technique rush, which
Speaker 2: is something we get a lot right, but Nito Jones
Speaker 2: got that last year. Had the best pressure rate of
Speaker 2: his career, best PFF pass rush grade, whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it, seven point six percent. Pressure rate was
Speaker 2: two percent higher than his previous career high with allions,
Speaker 2: and I think that that just opens up even more
Speaker 2: interesting ways of usage for Kenneth Grant his hands. The
Speaker 2: way he impacts guys by his punch, there's a physical
Speaker 2: jolt across the bow. But the best part is when
Speaker 2: he gets attached, he then controls the rep and it
Speaker 2: happens all the time. He subscribes to the belief that
Speaker 2: you beat the hands, you beat the man. He learned
Speaker 2: that probably from Mason Graham, who I thought had the
Speaker 2: best hands of the entire class at defensive tackle. And
Speaker 2: he just does it all the damn time. When you
Speaker 2: move him down in competition at all, like not the
Speaker 2: literal national champs in Ohio State Buckeyes. Every other tape
Speaker 2: was ragged alling guys pretty regularly. This was from my
Speaker 2: film study on the prospect profile back in March. Quote,
Speaker 2: all right, I've seen enough. I just saw him kick
Speaker 2: out to the five technique against Ohio State and jab
Speaker 2: step wide with an arm over re establish his gap
Speaker 2: and then close on the ballcarrier. This is my top
Speaker 2: defensive tackle in the class. I think he should go
Speaker 2: in the top ten, could be top five all things said.
Speaker 2: So that's the player, that's the tape. Very excited about
Speaker 2: this guy. I'm excited to see what he can do
Speaker 2: here in Miami. Let's go ahead and take our first
Speaker 2: break right there, come back and talk about how he
Speaker 2: fits the Dolphins defense and coach Weaver. That's next Draft
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Speaker 2: I Don't Nation. So the player profile is intriguing. It's impressive,
Speaker 2: big man, moves well, physical, tough, all that fun stuff.
Speaker 2: Heard a lot about his character as well, in a
Speaker 2: good way. So, Kenneth Grant, the man here in Miami
Speaker 2: gives you a big, big body inside and fills a big,
Speaker 2: big knee, and look, I think the expectations that he's
Speaker 2: gonna play right away, right, I mean he's got to
Speaker 2: he's got to earn it. And that's talking about where
Speaker 2: he fits. We talk about instant impact players in the
Speaker 2: podcast a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 3: You don't just show up and start in the NFL.
Speaker 2: But we saw his rep count increase each year at Michigan,
Speaker 2: topping out at nearly six hundred snaps this past season.
Speaker 2: And if you're looking at the skill, the fit, the talent,
Speaker 2: all of that, he's going to have a really good
Speaker 2: chance to carve out a massive role in this front
Speaker 2: and be a part of many, many of the different
Speaker 2: packages this group can feature. And possibly my favorite part
Speaker 2: about the entire thing is, like you talk about playing
Speaker 2: the run from two high structures, That's what the league
Speaker 2: is these days. It's all about trying to defend the
Speaker 2: run while keeping the umbrella on your roof and in
Speaker 2: your coverage and free up athletic linebackers to cover space
Speaker 2: both both going vertically backwards and downhill against the run.
Speaker 2: And having two big, strong, long, quick athletes on the
Speaker 2: interior defensive line, I mean you can take care of
Speaker 2: three interior offensive line. With those two guys, they can
Speaker 2: both two gap, they can eat up blocks on duo
Speaker 2: and double teams, and now all of a sudden, Jordan
Speaker 2: Brooks has no one to take him on, and then
Speaker 2: that's a proposition that will not result in a good
Speaker 2: result for the offense. You can get Willie Gay getting
Speaker 2: one on one matchups against the running back as an
Speaker 2: interior mugged up linebacker rusher or Tyrrell Dotson or Chop Robinson,
Speaker 2: and you can keep your two safeties up on top
Speaker 2: of the defense, play some press or fill type of
Speaker 2: coverage underneath, and all of a sudden, you've got the
Speaker 2: quarterback taken an extra beat to throw the football. And
Speaker 2: if you can dominate upfront, you can help your defensive
Speaker 2: backfield a big way too. So I think the way
Speaker 2: you can structure this coverage with the defensive coordinator being
Speaker 2: a very having a very solid first year, and how
Speaker 2: he did structure things with a couple of potentially dominant
Speaker 2: defensive tackles. We can't go that far yet on Kenneth Grant,
Speaker 2: but just watching the tape, I feel pretty good that
Speaker 2: he'll be a pretty damn good pro if you get
Speaker 2: him to realize that ceiling. With Zach Seeler, you have
Speaker 2: one of the best, like two high run stuffing fronts
Speaker 2: that in the league because of what those guys can
Speaker 2: do from a physical standpoint. You talk about the Michigan
Speaker 2: coaches there, man, buddy, they man, They've had some good
Speaker 2: freaking coaches. Jesse Minter was the coach there on that defense.
Speaker 2: That was part of Kenneth Grant's recruiting class. And guess
Speaker 2: where he is right now. Oh, he's a defensive corner
Speaker 2: for the Los Angeles Chargers. Wink Martindell has been there
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. He was famous for his
Speaker 2: aggression and his games up front and all the twists
Speaker 2: and the stunts they run. And I talked about the
Speaker 2: ability to run games that he showed at Michigan at college. Well,
Speaker 2: that's what coach Weaver does here. One of the primary
Speaker 2: staples of this Dolphins defense under coach Weaver is learning
Speaker 2: multiple positions and the different rush games from those positions,
Speaker 2: so the offensive line cannot communicate their protection and you
Speaker 2: get free runs. It happened all year last year, in
Speaker 2: the first year. Now you've got this guy to add
Speaker 2: to the equation. A second year in the system. You
Speaker 2: got your edges back, Like I think you have to
Speaker 2: be excited about the potential that Weaver has with his
Speaker 2: rush packages, with the personnel he has this year compared
Speaker 2: to what he featured last year. Maybe it's not as
Speaker 2: deep right now today at cornerback obviously, or maybe even sayfty,
Speaker 2: but the focus on the front and getting that thing
Speaker 2: squared away right now, that looks pretty good. Just the
Speaker 2: way that he can help keep those linebackers free. You know,
Speaker 2: I think Zach Sealer has to be pumped about this
Speaker 2: because of what Grant can do from a pick standpoint,
Speaker 2: from a stunt standpoint. In fact, he was asked about that.
Speaker 2: Chris Green was asked about Zach Stealler. How pumped was
Speaker 2: he to get this guy? And how excited are you
Speaker 2: to have those two guys in the middle of your defense?
Speaker 4: So excited about it? Obviously, He's again someone we spent
Speaker 4: a lot of time with to get to know because
Speaker 4: he's a good football player. You know, him and Mason
Speaker 4: in there together. They did a good job the last
Speaker 4: two years. They're a hard team to run the ball
Speaker 4: on that he played against a lot of good players
Speaker 4: that have been drafted and even the guys in practiced
Speaker 4: there at Michigan's offensive line the last few years has
Speaker 4: been really good ends And so the kid just turned
Speaker 4: twenty one years old, So I just think there's a
Speaker 4: huge upside with the room he's going into with Zach
Speaker 4: and the guys that work, and with Weaver and Clark
Speaker 4: who are great teachers and great motivators. And when he
Speaker 4: came here, that was the one thing he was after
Speaker 4: he met those guys and got to sit in with
Speaker 4: Mike and I for about a half hour or so,
Speaker 4: and he was really excited. And he was and so
Speaker 4: when we called, he was like here making me nervous.
Speaker 4: He's like, he's like, are you calling to draft me?
Speaker 4: And so very excited to have him, and we think
Speaker 4: he'll be a great addition.
Speaker 2: And then lastly on the fit, like the ability to
Speaker 2: call heavy fronts with Seiler and Grant as a three
Speaker 2: and a five and then plot Benito Jones as the
Speaker 2: nose tackle, like you can get flexible that way. You know,
Speaker 2: last year the Dolphins ran a bunch of those looks
Speaker 2: where Zach and Kalais played five tech and three tech
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of injuries off the edge, so
Speaker 2: you had to kind of, you know, stretch those guys
Speaker 2: thin and get more reps from de Sean Hanna, Benito Jones.
Speaker 2: He called on Emmanuel Ogbaf some of those heavy reps
Speaker 2: off the edge, like your three man fronts all of
Speaker 2: a sudden with you know, with Seiler, Grant and Benito,
Speaker 2: good luck doubling those guys and moving those guys off
Speaker 2: the football. You can get Chubb and Chop and JP
Speaker 2: behind him with Jordan Brooks, like it's just a lot
Speaker 2: to contend with in that front seven. And like what
Speaker 2: a Dolphins fans clamor for the last several years, get
Speaker 2: better than the trenches, get better alongside defensive tackle rotation,
Speaker 2: get me tough teams that can win situational football and
Speaker 2: hostile environments and difficult situations like this is a player
Speaker 2: that helps you do that on the defensive side in
Speaker 2: terms of your tone setting on the defensive front and
Speaker 2: the flexibility of different positions is a bonus. And the
Speaker 2: pass rushing stuff. I had Jamal bush Rod doing the
Speaker 2: radio show with me tonight for three hours in de
Speaker 2: Row about the draft show, and I was pulling up
Speaker 2: clips of him and he was talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: Kenneth being a run defend wizard, and he's like, maybe
Speaker 2: I have that backward. Maybe he's more of a pass
Speaker 2: rusher because I'm watching these clipsure show me that guy
Speaker 2: has tons of juice. So Jaman has seen that from
Speaker 2: the other side of the football and he did a
Speaker 2: good job breaking him down the show with us as well.
Speaker 3: Some alignment stats here from Kenneth Grant. He lined in.
Speaker 2: The B gap this year. What's the B gap, Travis?
Speaker 2: That is the gap between the guard and the tackle.
Speaker 2: So lots of three technique work there. That was a
Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty six workload for him. One hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy snaps in the A gap that's a zero
Speaker 2: or one technique over the center, and then he had
Speaker 2: just five snaps in the sea gap that's an edge position.
Speaker 2: But the fact that he played any snaps off the
Speaker 2: edge at three hundred and forty pounds tells you about
Speaker 2: how much of a unicorn this guy is in terms
Speaker 2: of his size and athleticsism combination. Right, So good stuff
Speaker 2: all around the metrics. Let's go ahead and start with
Speaker 2: this three hundred and thirty four pound big hoss, right,
Speaker 2: and with those guys weight can fluctuate sometimes, and that's
Speaker 2: where your scouts really make their money, pounding the pavement
Speaker 2: and getting to know the players' habits, whether it's talking
Speaker 2: to the equipment staff, the training staff, the librarian, the
Speaker 2: overseas study hall, whatever it is. You got to find
Speaker 2: out what this guy's all about. And here is Chris
Speaker 2: Career on finding out about you know, Kenneth Grant's weight
Speaker 2: sometimes at Michigan being at three hundred and fifty pounds,
Speaker 2: once you learned about his conditioning.
Speaker 3: Here's Chris Career.
Speaker 4: You know, the college games obviously a lot faster for
Speaker 4: the most part because you know, a lot of the
Speaker 4: no huddle offenses go really fast, so you will have
Speaker 4: times the bigger players. That's always been and you know,
Speaker 4: a complaint that people have against big players the weight.
Speaker 4: With us, we got to know him through the offseason
Speaker 4: and what he played at during the season. We're not
Speaker 4: concerned about it. He's not either, and I think he
Speaker 4: showed throughout the whole offseason process of working it, and
Speaker 4: we've we did a lot of background studies and information
Speaker 4: gathering on it and feel very comfortable with him. And
Speaker 4: from talking to the people at Michigan, they don't really
Speaker 4: view it as an issue as well.
Speaker 2: And I tend to love that he's only played one
Speaker 2: thousand and fifty four snaps in his college career. That's
Speaker 2: not a lot of wear and tear on those tires.
Speaker 2: He played five hundred and forty seven this year after
Speaker 2: four h three as a sophomore, just one oh four
Speaker 2: as a freshman there at Michigan. But hey, playing on
Speaker 2: Jim Harboss fronts at Michigan means you're pretty good as
Speaker 2: a freshman, so he just kept getting better. Fifty two
Speaker 2: pressures on five hundred and fifty career pass rush snaps.
Speaker 2: That's a ten percent rate from a position where pass
Speaker 2: rushing is kind of a secondary type of deal. And
Speaker 2: that was kind of Dexter Lawrence in college too, is Clemson.
Speaker 2: He was a run defender who people questioned how much
Speaker 2: juicy had, and he fell into the teams for the
Speaker 2: same reason. And there just aren't that many nose tackles
Speaker 2: to give you that kind of juice and play as
Speaker 2: a zero or a one technique with that much regularity.
Speaker 2: Forty one run stops on four hundred steps against the run,
Speaker 2: just a dominant, dominant player on the stat sheet on
Speaker 2: a workout on the field on the tape, twenty seven
Speaker 2: pressures last year for an eight point two percent pressure rate.
Speaker 2: He had twenty three pressures in twenty twenty three and
Speaker 2: that was a ten point four percent pressure rate. And
Speaker 2: the run stuffing even better twenty two stops this past
Speaker 2: season on two hundred and seventeen rundown reps and a
Speaker 2: great stat to kind of bring us home here on
Speaker 2: the stats part of this whole thing. The only defensive
Speaker 2: tackles that had a better pass rush win rate from
Speaker 2: the zero and one technique position, so over the center,
Speaker 2: a not very popular pass rushing position over the last
Speaker 2: five drafts were number one Byron Murphy, a guy that
Speaker 2: I thought would have been a good first round pick
Speaker 2: last year, but he went before we picked to Seattle,
Speaker 2: and then Jalen Carter for the Philadelphia Eagles, who helped
Speaker 2: them win a Super Bowl this year, and Elijah Knty,
Speaker 2: who has been off to a good start in Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay with his career. There Next was Kenneth Grant, so
Speaker 2: that's all you got about his pass rushing. He also
Speaker 2: batted five passes last year, which was third among interior
Speaker 2: defensive lineman. A couple more things here before our third
Speaker 2: and final segment. He did not work out in Indie,
Speaker 2: but he did go thirty one inches on the vertical
Speaker 2: jump on his pro day, which was good for eighty
Speaker 2: one or eighty first percent tile among all defensive tackles.
Speaker 2: Of course, at three hundred and thirty one pounds, was
Speaker 2: a ninety fifth percentile for weight. Oh and at eighty
Speaker 2: third percent tile ten split. Freaky, freaky traits man. The
Speaker 2: shuttle of the three co on, the forty and the
Speaker 2: broad all came in around average, around the fortieth to
Speaker 2: sixtieth percent tile. But hey, when you are ninety fifth
Speaker 2: percent tile in size, all of a sudden, being average,
Speaker 2: everything else becomes a little bit more impressive. And this
Speaker 2: all tracks on tape. He is very explosive to me.
Speaker 2: It's the easiest comp in the entire class. Dexter Lawrence
Speaker 2: was ninety seven percentile weight, seventy fourth percentile ten split.
Speaker 3: He did not jump it.
Speaker 2: He smooth on his feet, just like Sexy Dexi, and
Speaker 2: he's strong as hell again. Jim Harbaugh refers to him
Speaker 2: as the gift from the football gods. He was a
Speaker 2: basketball and shot put stand out in high school as well.
Speaker 2: Also play left guard on the offensive line. Hey, maybe
Speaker 2: you put him in the backfield and there's an offensive
Speaker 2: package where he plays some fullback forth. I don't know,
Speaker 2: you get crazy.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant, fun player all around, a player that I'm
Speaker 2: very excited about. Let's pause for our last break right there,
Speaker 2: come back on the other side, finish us up with
Speaker 2: Day two preview, rest of Round one reactions. I have
Speaker 2: one more SoundBite from Chris Career talking about team needs
Speaker 2: as well. He once again talked about the free agent
Speaker 2: market and how the Dolphins are in contact with some
Speaker 2: of those players. So again, nine more picks over the weekend,
Speaker 2: and with some free agent acquisitions to happen as well,
Speaker 2: this team is far from being done as far from
Speaker 2: done being built. So let's go ahead and talk about that.
Speaker 2: On the other side. Draft Time Podcast brought to you
Speaker 2: by Auto Nation. Let's bring it home here with some
Speaker 2: talks discussions about the rest of the first round. The
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter trade was wild, right, and seeing that like
Speaker 2: an hour before the draft, that there was talks that
Speaker 2: was going to happen was pretty cool. I thought Travis
Speaker 2: Hunter's reaction coming out to the stage, going to Jacksonville
Speaker 2: was pretty sweet. They got Brian Thomas Junior and Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2: But it's interesting because they gave up first round pick
Speaker 2: next year. They gave it pick thirty six this year,
Speaker 2: and if you don't win, if you're not a good
Speaker 2: team this year, like that's some high draft capital next
Speaker 2: year giving up, and so good for the Browns for
Speaker 2: capitalizing on that. They cop that future one and the
Speaker 2: thirty sixth pick. And of course the big news of
Speaker 2: the night is that Shadur Sanders is on the board
Speaker 2: in the first or does not come off the board
Speaker 2: in the first round. I should say that's probably the
Speaker 2: biggest shock of the first night, and I imagine he
Speaker 2: goes pretty early tomorrow night, you know, Cleveland impossible landing spot.
Speaker 2: Feels like that could happen and they come out of
Speaker 2: this thing with Mason Graham, Shadur Sanders in the top
Speaker 2: forty pick and a one next year. That would be
Speaker 2: a good draft for the Cleveland Browns trying to get,
Speaker 2: you know, further away from the post to Shawn Watson
Speaker 2: era there though I do have a hard time saying
Speaker 2: no to Travis Hunter. So kind of a little bit
Speaker 2: of both on that for me, maybe I'll maybe I'll
Speaker 2: revisit that when I have some more time to think
Speaker 2: about it. Tyler Booker going twelve to Dallas shocked me.
Speaker 2: I thought that was the biggest surprise of the entire
Speaker 2: first night in terms of a guy going early. Also
Speaker 2: thought that Teed McMillan going eight to the Panthers was
Speaker 2: a huge shock. You know, they have a couple of
Speaker 2: guys from now who are more body you know, like
Speaker 2: body controlled, contested catch guys. I thought maybe a separator
Speaker 2: made more sense for them there, but they go. Teed
Speaker 2: McMillan didn't see him that high in mock drafts. The
Speaker 2: Falcons have had edge rusher issues for like twenty years
Speaker 2: since Jonathan Abraham left there, and they are Jonathan Abram. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they get not just Jalen Walker. They spend next
Speaker 2: year's first to go back up into the first round
Speaker 2: and get James Pierce. The Patriots and the Jets get
Speaker 2: their offensive tackles Will Campbell and armand Membu. I thought
Speaker 2: Membo was the better player quite personally, a higher on
Speaker 2: my board, but both of our division rivals there get
Speaker 2: starters at tackle and can now go up against JP
Speaker 2: and Chubb and chopping all those guys, and the Bills
Speaker 2: get Maxwell Harriston, a really good cornerback from Kentucky. They
Speaker 2: had a big need there, so I think that he'll
Speaker 2: have a chance to play right away. And then how
Speaker 2: about Jackson Dart. The Giants go all the way up
Speaker 2: into the first round and get their quarterback, and after
Speaker 2: picking Abduel Carter number three overall, so now they have
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, Jamis Win and Jackson Dart like the most
Speaker 2: entertaining potential dynamic of a quarterback room. From a personality standpoint,
Speaker 2: I can imagine, like, what are those conversations going to be?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: So crazy crazy stuff all right? Day two preview. What
Speaker 2: positions we selected? What it means. I had forty eight
Speaker 2: and ninety eight pegged as heavy defensive tackle spots. If
Speaker 2: we didn't go dtackle in the first round, I thought
Speaker 2: they could very well double dip in that spot, and
Speaker 2: they still could, but I imagine that removes forty eight
Speaker 2: and possibly ninety eight from the equation.
Speaker 3: They could go there.
Speaker 2: You never know, but I would imagine it removes defensive
Speaker 2: tackle until Day three. So let's look at the best
Speaker 2: players available at the positions of need. But first, Chris
Speaker 2: Greer touched on the idea of passing on a cornerback
Speaker 2: because Hunter was the only cornerback or potential cornerback who
Speaker 2: went before Miami at picked thirteen. Will Johnson didn't get
Speaker 2: picked in the first round at all, and Jade Baron
Speaker 2: went to the.
Speaker 3: Where did he go?
Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos a pick number twenty, So that was
Speaker 2: the guy that I had talked about a lot. He
Speaker 2: goes to twenty to the Broncos. Let's hear from Risk
Speaker 2: Career on the team's needs and the philosophy of the
Speaker 2: draft with those needs in mind, No.
Speaker 4: I think you know, we have nine picks still like
Speaker 4: we said, the draft process, but also free agency. Like
Speaker 4: as we've said before, there's a number of really good
Speaker 4: players still out on the streets free agency that we've
Speaker 4: been in touch with, and a lot of those players
Speaker 4: right now are just waiting to see how the draft
Speaker 4: unfolds for a lot of teams. So so we have nine,
Speaker 4: we could have more or less. You know, we're willing
Speaker 4: to go up and down for the right players. So
Speaker 4: but we'll be looking at needs, but just not strictly needs,
Speaker 4: but good football players that fit what we're looking for.
Speaker 2: How did this first round change the way we view
Speaker 2: the picks thirty three through one hundred, Well, just one
Speaker 2: safety off the board so far. I thought e Man
Speaker 2: Warrior might have a chance to hear his name called.
Speaker 2: That's a deep position group, and I think that, like
Speaker 2: ninety eight, you can find a starter at that spot
Speaker 2: potentially if it goes right and he has a good
Speaker 2: camp and a lot of stuff, just based upon the
Speaker 2: depth of the class right now, there's lots of teams
Speaker 2: between thirty three and forty eight that could take e
Speaker 2: Man Warrior in my opinion, But if he's there, I
Speaker 2: would I would imagine he's a heavy contender to be
Speaker 2: picked that at that position because I just think that
Speaker 2: the Dolphins would be interested in the skill set that
Speaker 2: he offers. Same with Will Johnson. I thought he'd have
Speaker 2: been a good pick at thirteen. Quite honestly, if he
Speaker 2: makes it to pick forty eight, I'd be more than
Speaker 2: happy to go all Michigan with the top two picks.
Speaker 2: But at cornerback man, the depth it's still there. Like
Speaker 2: Trey Amos is a good player, Benjamin Morris is a
Speaker 2: good player who he wasn't my favorite on tape, but
Speaker 2: I can see like the thought and the process within there.
Speaker 2: Savon Ravel from East Carolina was probably corner three pushing
Speaker 2: corner two for me. I think Jacob Parrish has some
Speaker 2: really good slot traits and slot chops that he could
Speaker 2: bring to the table. So that's a damn good forcem players.
Speaker 2: He'll probably get a crack at least one of those
Speaker 2: guys at forty eight. The Arizona guard Jonas Slavina, I
Speaker 2: love his game. You got Marcus Imbo from Purdue, Arianti
Speaker 2: Ersri from Minnesota, possible tackle inside of guard converts. You've
Speaker 2: also still got Miles Fraser from LSU, all kinds of
Speaker 2: options at the offensive line. I think basically you go
Speaker 2: into Friday rooting for defensive tackles because you're probably not
Speaker 2: going to pick one. At forty quarterbacks, I think we'll
Speaker 2: see at least one go here, maybe two. Maybe Milroe
Speaker 2: goes again or goes before you pick receivers because I
Speaker 2: don't think receivers on the table for forty eight could
Speaker 2: be wrong.
Speaker 3: You never know.
Speaker 2: Running backs, we want them to go. If we get
Speaker 2: Shadur Sanders, Traveon Henderson, Luther Burden. Let's add the Boston
Speaker 2: College edge that I can't prounce his name, Donovan is
Speaker 2: a ruku and then Mike Green, the Marshall edge, Darius Alexander,
Speaker 2: the tackle from Toledo that would get you to pick
Speaker 2: thirty nine with Mason Taylor, Will Johnson, Nicky Man, Worry,
Speaker 2: Jonas Savina, Marcus Mbo, Arianti Eser, Trey Amos, Benjamin Harrison.
Speaker 3: That's all on.
Speaker 2: That's eight guys on the board with nine picks until
Speaker 2: we're up. Good chance you would get a really good
Speaker 2: player at a position of need. We want defensive tackles, quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: those positions to go off the board because well those
Speaker 2: are the ones you're probably not gonna be looking at
Speaker 2: those spots.
Speaker 3: So there you go. Fun first night here.
Speaker 2: I hope all you guys that came out to the
Speaker 2: Durraal you had a fun time with me and Jermond
Speaker 2: and Eduardo as well as Mark Clayton on the dais
Speaker 2: with Patrick Paul, who was great in me. If you
Speaker 2: guys got a chance to meet him, you guys to
Speaker 2: know I'm talking about that really fun guy I talked
Speaker 2: to you. In the meantime, that's gonna be my time tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a two man podcast. Basically, it gives
Speaker 2: you some more content on the show then should be
Speaker 2: out earlier because I won't be driving back from Durrell
Speaker 2: on the closed uh Palmetto Expressman, which was a freaking
Speaker 2: nightmare tonight. But I digress. We'll have that coverage for
Speaker 2: you guys. We'll have some articles on Miami Dolphins dot com.
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