WEBVTT - Drive Time: The Kenneth Grant Episode 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.840 With the thirteenth pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:14.120 the Miami Dolphin select Kenneth Grant, defensive tackle. Michigan Fellas, 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.640 I gotta jump in because I've been hearing about this 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.280 kid since he was a true freshman going up there 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.000 and meeting with the Wolverine coaches when Jim Harriba and 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.079 I would sit down, all the way back to Mike 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.080 McDonald and then Jesse Mentor or Wing Martindale, all the 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.600 coordinators have been on that side of the ball. The 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:32.160 first thing that that defense, and it's the Baltimore defense 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.200 wants to do, is build the run wall. And guess 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.360 who they talk about. They wouldn't talk about Mason Graham. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:38.519 They would talk about Kenneth Grant as being the guy 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:40.800 that could be the best in the future. And one 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:42.479 of the reasons is this play that you're looking at 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:44.720 right there. He chased down Nick Singleton. He's got this 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.640 rare motor for a guy that's three hundred and thirty 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:51.000 pounds and he doesn't even understand how good he is yet. 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.320 I think his best football is ahead of him. He's 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.240 a block destructor. He's a great locker room guy, and 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.040 DJ I think he could be one of the premier 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.360 defensive tackles in the National Football League in the coming years. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.880 What is up, Dolphans And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.240 I am your host, Travis Wingfield and on today's show, well, 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.480 the pick is in. As you heard off the top 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.840 of the show, Kenneth Grant, the massive Michigan defensive tackle 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.280 is here. We're talking about this player, his tape, his 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.440 metrics from his college production, his workouts, what his experts 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.000 said and are saying about him, as you just heard 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.280 there on the NFL Network broadcast, his testing metrics, how 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.360 he fits in the defense, how he opens up things 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.040 for Anthony Weaver and Austin Clark and company. We'll hear 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.920 from Mike McDaniel and Chris Greer as they weigh in 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.800 on the player throughout the course of the podcast. Here 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.480 from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:57.800 This is the Draft Time Podcast. We're going to get 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.240 into my tape study here on Kenneth Grant, who I 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.440 thought was neck and neck with Mason Graham as the 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.600 best defensive tackle in the class. He was one of 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.440 the top guys on my board overall for this pick, 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.960 for this selection. So I go home on this evening 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.760 a happy camper. I had him and Jaday Baron pretty 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.520 close as well as Tyler Warren, so I was happy 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.200 with any of those three guys. I get one of 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.040 those my favorite players here in this Classlet's go ahead 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.040 and hear from the coach and the GM Chris Career. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:22.600 First on Kenneth Grant. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.880 For us, do you tackle is a big need, A 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.840 big nose tackle, obviously, but we also we don't be 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.480 almost just a run stopper. We do think he has 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.040 ability to generate and you've first talked with the pass rush. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.920 It's not always about sacks. The ability to push the 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:39.919 pocket in the middle is a huge thing in the 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:44.040 NFL now and we think he has a tremendous work 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.720 ethic an upside to do that. So we got to 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.480 know him through the process the Pro day, and so 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.200 again this was a player we're very excited. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.400 To add, and Mike McDaniel and how excited he is 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.680 for both the player and the person that is Kenneth Grant. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:00.720 This this is a player know I think from the 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.640 off season as it began and Chris and I talked 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:08.880 about the way we can impact this team and some 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:12.320 of the some of the things that there's real opportunities 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:17.160 to impact, you know, one position, but multiple positions. And 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:22.919 I think the most exciting part of really adding them 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:27.320 is you love players that are good players, that make 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:31.280 other people better players and continue to ascend to be 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.480 you know, to have the desire to be great well. 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.000 I think affects the run game, affects the pass game, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.880 effects the pocket You talk about some of the biggest 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:46.880 impacts in the National Football League on pass downs is 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.400 where the line of scrimmage is set or how much 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:54.080 pocket push you can get. That in conjunction with some 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.280 of the things that we'll be able to do from 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:00.680 a defensive standpoint based upon you is in a skill 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.240 set in the run game as well, where you can 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:08.680 play various light boxes at times and have versatility as 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.840 well as you know, a guy that can draw some 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:17.800 attention from some other really good players. Either way, we 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:22.560 feel like if you can add really good players on 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.559 the line of scrimmage, if we had the opportunity, we're 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.320 really excited about that. And we jumped on this one 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.200 with elation. 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:33.919 And then I want to play this one. Coach was 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.240 asked about what this pick says about the direction of 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.159 the franchise. We discussed how taking a guard could change 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.880 kind of a philosophy shift, how there's different things that 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:47.000 Dolphins could do that would signify a potential philosophy shift, 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.000 whether it's offense, defense, culture, whatever you might say. So 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.400 coach was asked directly about what does this say about 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:53.560 the direction of the franchise. 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:54.400 Here's coach. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.159 It was important to us that we felt like we 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:01.599 had an opportunity to pick at thirteen. That you don't 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.839 always get that opportunity. You want to take advantage of 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:06.960 it and you want to make sure that you do 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.719 things so that you don't pick at that spot in 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.720 the future. In that process, it was important to have 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:18.360 a tonality set, you know, for the to the twenty 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:24.839 twenty five Dolphins and adding you know, a real presence 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:29.240 up front and a you know, just a just a 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.599 player that is going to attack it and try to 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:37.919 play to the tonality that that we aspire to. You know, 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.479 I think I think it's very well in step with, 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.080 you know, our vision as we approach the whole process 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:50.200 open minded, but trying to you know, figure out by 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:54.200 round how we can make the Dolphins better. So this, Uh, 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.960 he's been on our mind for a long time, and 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:03.160 we thoroughly over thoroughly vetted and so very excited about 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.480 what we're adding because we feel like we have a 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.520 very clear, clear picture of what that is. 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.680 All right, let's go ahead and get into the tape 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.080 here on Kenneth Grant. I feel like those guys as 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.120 well as was that Joel Klatt off the open of 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.120 the show talking about how great Kenneth Grant is, and look, 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.800 Jim Harbaugh did call him, you know, guy's gift to football. 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.120 You talk about Wink, Martin Dell and all the guys 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.480 that have coach there in Michigan, and how you know 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.800 how important that defensive line was to what they do 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.280 in Michigan. We'll get to all that here in just 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.839 one second. A lot of high praise for Kenneth Grant, 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.280 but you start here at number seventy eight at Michigan. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.320 When you watch his tape, not a lot of guys 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.159 in the world that are six foot four, three hundred 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.400 and thirty four pounds and can move like that, who 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.719 were light on their feet. I'm sure you've all seen 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.120 the viral clip that played on the draft the first 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.239 clip they played against Penn State where the back breaks 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.040 through the line. He tries to make a move on 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.640 a safety and that move gave Grant the extra step 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.479 he needs to hawk him from twenty yards behind. The 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.320 play a lah Christian Wilkins against the Raiders a few 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.120 years ago. Again at three hundred and thirty four pounds, 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.880 that size and the strength allows you to play him 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:07.839 on the nose. He has plenty of reps as the 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.640 zero technique head up over the center or the one 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:14.400 shade on outside shoulder of either outside shoulder of the center, 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.520 and he has pass rush wins there. Go watch his 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.440 sack on Michael Pennix in the twenty twenty three National 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.200 Championship game. He's actually a three technique on those reps, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.200 but he rushes the entire man, not just the you know, 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.120 not just the shoulder of the guard, the entire left guard, 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.680 which means that he has you know, two way go 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:32.200 too gap responsibility. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.600 And when you have that and you can also just you. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.800 Know, mount up the power and roll it into the 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.520 guy and put him on his back, that is really impressive. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.680 Like the guard goes down like a sack of potatoes 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.760 and Grant just runs over him for the sack, and 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.680 a National Championship game with sheer power and a player 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.760 that moves like he does should not have that kind 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.680 of power. And the first rep I pulled up on 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.160 his tape was him doing a te stunt. The tackle 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.800 or the end rather slants in and he and picks 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.000 up the guard. And at three hundred and forty pounds, 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.239 here comes Kenneth Grant looping around the outside and beating 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.600 the left tackle around the edge. And that's Donovan Jackson, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.240 who was a first round pick tonight out of Ohio State, 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.320 who you know, the first step quickness, the way he 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.240 can bend the arc at that size, it is just 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.480 it's really really impressive. I think he could benefit from 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.200 some seasonings, some NFL coaching. If there's a reason that 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.920 he didn't go top twenty in this draft, it was 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.320 because sometimes he doesn't process things super fast and the 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.240 feet can stop moving. But this is actually you know, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.000 it would be a big concern if it never got 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.080 SYNCD up, but I don't think that'll happen here. That 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:34.920 to me would fall more on the coaching staff. And 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.560 we have Austin Clark, who's coached pretty much every player 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.280 to be a good one here. Deshan Han but Ato 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.000 Jones last year both had career years. You saw Zach's 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.360 either development, Christian Wilkins development, Like, give Austin Clark someone 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.280 to work with, and I feel pretty confident about the 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.439 work he can do. And it's little things like pad level, 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.720 you know, the feet stopping at times and maybe trying 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.520 to play like a hero rep every once in a while. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.480 Outside of that, there's not a lot that I didn't love. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:08:58.839 On the tape. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.559 Like we talked about this with Davis on the podcast 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.000 a while back, grade the flashes, and to me, the 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.160 Flashes were top five worthy in the entire class. Some 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.199 of the snap to snap consistency, maybe some of the 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.440 willingness to just eat a block and survive the rep 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.880 opposed to like there was a rep where he's getting 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:15.440 double with the point of attack and he tries to 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.960 fight against it upstream and when you go against it 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.040 a rip current, that's how you bury yourself even further. Right, 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.520 But like, even on that rep, the gap that he 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.360 leaves exposes an easy fill because he holds up the 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.520 first man on the combo block enough that it requires 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.520 a longer attachment from the secondary block, which then frees 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.640 up the linebacker to run in and shut that thing 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:35.480 down for no gain. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.360 So I think about the way he can impact. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.679 Steeler and Jordan Brooks and Willie Gay and Jalen Phillips 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.360 and Bradley Chubb and Chop Robinson. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:44.200 You really can see the fit there. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.480 I think he can get a little bit narrow, especially 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.360 in his approach, and his heels click a little bit. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.000 But that to me is a sign of just a 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:51.880 lack of reps. He only has one thousand and fifty 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.280 reps in his career and a lot of tred left 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.120 on those tires. If you've seen a rep of him 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.360 one gapping and losing, please share it with me, because 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.160 I have not seen it yet on his tape and 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.360 I've watched six of this guy's games now. And the 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.760 way I think that could incorporate with what we do. 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.640 How we have all those electric first step athletes with 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.679 premiere ten split times, Like gosh, you got all these 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.800 guys that with options to mug up in the A 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.640 gaps and show pressure from Brooks to Dotson to Gay 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.880 to Chop condensing inside a nosebacker. And I think about 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.280 that next to a pairing of Seiler and Grant Seiler, 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.280 who has the best length and hands in the damn 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.600 game at the position. And then Grant, who I think 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.800 can be an elite one gap penetrator of the minute 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.280 he puts on an NFL helmet. That's a tough, tough 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.760 ask for sixty snaps from imposing offensive line. He's got 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:41.160 plenty of good plenty good at dropping the anchor as 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:42.840 a two gapper against the run. In fact, a lot 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.240 of folks think that run stuffing is his mo from 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.560 the start, Stack it up with the nose. Does a 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.400 ton of that in his college tape because he was 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.280 frequently doubled there at Michigan. But when they cut him 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.680 loose and told him to rush the outside shoulder of 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.280 the center or the inside shoulder of the guard, he 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.360 just blows right past them. Then he had a pretty 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.000 good arm over and swim move to free himself as well. 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.560 I do think the secondary of moves could use some polish, 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.280 But you know, that's what coaches for. That's what coaching 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.520 is for. That's how you develop players. They always say, like, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.240 don't get too over hyped on pass rush arsenal because 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:13.920 that stuff can be taught. It's the traits and the 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.360 rare movement that you really put the high grades on, 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.400 and that's what Kenneth Grant has. He is really really 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.240 electric off the football. I think he'll draw a lot 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.920 of holding calls because guys are bracing for the strength 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.520 and the momentum of three hundred and forty pounds and 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.800 how he knows how to play to that size and power. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.120 As they dig their cleats into the ground, he just 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.199 crosses their face with a quick first step and now 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.160 they've got to uproot themselves and try to match his speed, 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.800 which I don't think any offensive lineman can do. You 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.560 know the Mike McDaniel comment, like every single offensive lineman 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.000 every single week in the NFL is outmatched by the 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.920 athletic ability of the defensive line. Like that's Kenneth Grant, 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.240 three hundred and thirty four pounds, thirty one inch vertical 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.520 jump like you know, a blazing fast ten split. 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:54.440 He's They're not supposed to move like that. 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.720 And every rep where I've seen him as a zero 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.640 tech and Michigan walks up backers to show pressure where 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:01.800 they career at these one on one chances, he just 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.800 flat out smokes these big ten interior offensive lineman, like 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.000 it's over before it even begins. It reminds me of 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.000 watching Chop versus Michigan last year. They pretty much abandoned 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.760 the entire passing game because they had no answer for him. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.160 And this is every time Michigan was able to generate 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.600 a one on one, zero or one technique rush, which 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.720 is something we get a lot right, but Nito Jones 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.760 got that last year. Had the best pressure rate of 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.320 his career, best PFF pass rush grade, whatever you want 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.760 to call it, seven point six percent. Pressure rate was 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.560 two percent higher than his previous career high with allions, 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.400 and I think that that just opens up even more 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.080 interesting ways of usage for Kenneth Grant his hands. The 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.000 way he impacts guys by his punch, there's a physical 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.880 jolt across the bow. But the best part is when 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.600 he gets attached, he then controls the rep and it 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.000 happens all the time. He subscribes to the belief that 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.480 you beat the hands, you beat the man. He learned 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.240 that probably from Mason Graham, who I thought had the 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.480 best hands of the entire class at defensive tackle. And 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.640 he just does it all the damn time. When you 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.320 move him down in competition at all, like not the 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.079 literal national champs in Ohio State Buckeyes. Every other tape 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.520 was ragged alling guys pretty regularly. This was from my 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.160 film study on the prospect profile back in March. Quote, 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.360 all right, I've seen enough. I just saw him kick 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.680 out to the five technique against Ohio State and jab 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.600 step wide with an arm over re establish his gap 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.960 and then close on the ballcarrier. This is my top 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.280 defensive tackle in the class. I think he should go 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.520 in the top ten, could be top five all things said. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.600 So that's the player, that's the tape. Very excited about 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.280 this guy. I'm excited to see what he can do 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.440 here in Miami. Let's go ahead and take our first 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.240 break right there, come back and talk about how he 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.360 fits the Dolphins defense and coach Weaver. That's next Draft 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.320 Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:48.840 I Don't Nation. So the player profile is intriguing. It's impressive, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.840 big man, moves well, physical, tough, all that fun stuff. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.080 Heard a lot about his character as well, in a 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.000 good way. So, Kenneth Grant, the man here in Miami 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.480 gives you a big, big body inside and fills a big, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.439 big knee, and look, I think the expectations that he's 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.319 gonna play right away, right, I mean he's got to 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.960 he's got to earn it. And that's talking about where 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.439 he fits. We talk about instant impact players in the 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:10.680 podcast a couple weeks ago. 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:12.600 You don't just show up and start in the NFL. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.200 But we saw his rep count increase each year at Michigan, 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.760 topping out at nearly six hundred snaps this past season. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.240 And if you're looking at the skill, the fit, the talent, 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.280 all of that, he's going to have a really good 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.960 chance to carve out a massive role in this front 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.120 and be a part of many, many of the different 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.760 packages this group can feature. And possibly my favorite part 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.600 about the entire thing is, like you talk about playing 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.720 the run from two high structures, That's what the league 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.440 is these days. It's all about trying to defend the 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.640 run while keeping the umbrella on your roof and in 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.040 your coverage and free up athletic linebackers to cover space 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.480 both both going vertically backwards and downhill against the run. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:52.040 And having two big, strong, long, quick athletes on the 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.840 interior defensive line, I mean you can take care of 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.000 three interior offensive line. With those two guys, they can 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.000 both two gap, they can eat up blocks on duo 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.680 and double teams, and now all of a sudden, Jordan 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.600 Brooks has no one to take him on, and then 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.480 that's a proposition that will not result in a good 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.400 result for the offense. You can get Willie Gay getting 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.560 one on one matchups against the running back as an 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.720 interior mugged up linebacker rusher or Tyrrell Dotson or Chop Robinson, 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.120 and you can keep your two safeties up on top 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.120 of the defense, play some press or fill type of 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.480 coverage underneath, and all of a sudden, you've got the 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.960 quarterback taken an extra beat to throw the football. And 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.320 if you can dominate upfront, you can help your defensive 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.040 backfield a big way too. So I think the way 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.120 you can structure this coverage with the defensive coordinator being 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.720 a very having a very solid first year, and how 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:40.120 he did structure things with a couple of potentially dominant 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.560 defensive tackles. We can't go that far yet on Kenneth Grant, 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.400 but just watching the tape, I feel pretty good that 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.960 he'll be a pretty damn good pro if you get 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.760 him to realize that ceiling. With Zach Seeler, you have 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.080 one of the best, like two high run stuffing fronts 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.040 that in the league because of what those guys can 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.000 do from a physical standpoint. You talk about the Michigan 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:03.040 coaches there, man, buddy, they man, They've had some good 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.600 freaking coaches. Jesse Minter was the coach there on that defense. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.320 That was part of Kenneth Grant's recruiting class. And guess 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.400 where he is right now. Oh, he's a defensive corner 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.200 for the Los Angeles Chargers. Wink Martindell has been there 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.480 the last couple of years. He was famous for his 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.080 aggression and his games up front and all the twists 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:21.800 and the stunts they run. And I talked about the 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:26.480 ability to run games that he showed at Michigan at college. Well, 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.920 that's what coach Weaver does here. One of the primary 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.680 staples of this Dolphins defense under coach Weaver is learning 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.840 multiple positions and the different rush games from those positions, 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.280 so the offensive line cannot communicate their protection and you 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.960 get free runs. It happened all year last year, in 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.560 the first year. Now you've got this guy to add 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.760 to the equation. A second year in the system. You 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.360 got your edges back, Like I think you have to 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.880 be excited about the potential that Weaver has with his 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.920 rush packages, with the personnel he has this year compared 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:56.920 to what he featured last year. Maybe it's not as 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.240 deep right now today at cornerback obviously, or maybe even sayfty, 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:04.040 but the focus on the front and getting that thing 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.080 squared away right now, that looks pretty good. Just the 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.600 way that he can help keep those linebackers free. You know, 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.959 I think Zach Sealer has to be pumped about this 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.280 because of what Grant can do from a pick standpoint, 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.280 from a stunt standpoint. In fact, he was asked about that. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.520 Chris Green was asked about Zach Stealler. How pumped was 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.640 he to get this guy? And how excited are you 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:23.960 to have those two guys in the middle of your defense? 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:28.360 So excited about it? Obviously, He's again someone we spent 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.000 a lot of time with to get to know because 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.119 he's a good football player. You know, him and Mason 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.520 in there together. They did a good job the last 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.480 two years. They're a hard team to run the ball 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.119 on that he played against a lot of good players 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.040 that have been drafted and even the guys in practiced 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.440 there at Michigan's offensive line the last few years has 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:50.600 been really good ends And so the kid just turned 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.560 twenty one years old, So I just think there's a 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.000 huge upside with the room he's going into with Zach 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.760 and the guys that work, and with Weaver and Clark 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.199 who are great teachers and great motivators. And when he 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.840 came here, that was the one thing he was after 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:09.639 he met those guys and got to sit in with 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.280 Mike and I for about a half hour or so, 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.960 and he was really excited. And he was and so 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.600 when we called, he was like here making me nervous. 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:19.520 He's like, he's like, are you calling to draft me? 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.480 And so very excited to have him, and we think 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:24.479 he'll be a great addition. 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.760 And then lastly on the fit, like the ability to 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:30.000 call heavy fronts with Seiler and Grant as a three 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.919 and a five and then plot Benito Jones as the 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.520 nose tackle, like you can get flexible that way. You know, 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.400 last year the Dolphins ran a bunch of those looks 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.920 where Zach and Kalais played five tech and three tech 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:41.840 and there's a lot of injuries off the edge, so 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:43.800 you had to kind of, you know, stretch those guys 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.360 thin and get more reps from de Sean Hanna, Benito Jones. 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.800 He called on Emmanuel Ogbaf some of those heavy reps 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.119 off the edge, like your three man fronts all of 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.840