Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna just before you introduced, before we
Speaker 1: do anything, before we even say anything past what I'm
Speaker 1: saying right now, I'm gonna just hit this track because
Speaker 1: if you read the title and got excited, this is
Speaker 1: all you really want to hear. X Men. WHOA, that
Speaker 1: was heat And I did the slow fade just to
Speaker 1: make an extra dramatic. Uh yeah, that was the theme
Speaker 1: for X Men. And look, when I get famous enough
Speaker 1: to just make stuff happen, I just want to do
Speaker 1: the orchestral version of that because you hear the like
Speaker 1: digitized you know, harps and violins and that and dings
Speaker 1: and dances like I need to hear the real I
Speaker 1: need the band on that analog. Oh my gosh. That that.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about themes just this week before
Speaker 1: even doing this podcast, because the Spider Man theme was
Speaker 1: pretty that one was pretty good. Spiner Man, spinder Man
Speaker 1: now and on a nail. And I'm gonna save that
Speaker 1: for when we do the Spider Man TV episode. You
Speaker 1: gotta for now. You just gotta take my word for it.
Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, today we're back. It's your boy, if
Speaker 1: you way the way, It's Ner Difficent and we have
Speaker 1: our guest host back again. You heard his voice already,
Speaker 1: so you know who it is is, Ed Grazzy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, Ed, garyer here on the Nervous podcast.
Speaker 1: This is great. This is a great occurrence. I know
Speaker 1: people are jazzed out of the last episode. Thank you
Speaker 1: all for the kind words, and thank you for Ed
Speaker 1: finding the time to make it with us. Danny, she's
Speaker 1: a busy bee. She's been out here filming long hours,
Speaker 1: working hard, and me doing nothing. I see you working high.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I'm glad you could sit down with us,
Speaker 1: and you know, especially just that that vibe we had
Speaker 1: going for Miles. I was really excited to talk to
Speaker 1: you about the X Men TV series, which you know,
Speaker 1: let's cut right to it. This isn't the the X
Speaker 1: Men like history, this is just the TV series, mostly
Speaker 1: because one if I was going to do the full
Speaker 1: x Men, Danny would want to be here too, because
Speaker 1: the t V series is a great place to start,
Speaker 1: because that's I feel like that's where a lot of
Speaker 1: people are age started with. X Men was the TV series.
Speaker 1: And I've already said this on past episodes, how the
Speaker 1: TV series did a real good job of covering actual
Speaker 1: events from the comic books and putting it on TV,
Speaker 1: and I feel like you don't get that with comic
Speaker 1: book shows now. They kind of build their own stories
Speaker 1: and sometimes even feel like they're in a separate universe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if it does feel like they think that the comic
Speaker 1: book stories aren't good enough for the Like boy, boy
Speaker 1: iron fist, I'm looking at you, I'm looking I'm looking
Speaker 1: at a lot of stuff, even to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, hot take, even to a
Speaker 1: certain extent that new young Punisher. I really felt like
Speaker 1: if you did more of him killing slavers and stuff,
Speaker 1: dudes like me who like him been down. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but this X Men show, they really I think they
Speaker 1: did almost like a primer for like the m c U.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you picked some of the best stuff
Speaker 1: in an ultimates, best stuff out of the six ones,
Speaker 1: cause I made a nice little gumbo that tastes good
Speaker 1: for billions of billions of dollars. So I think this
Speaker 1: was the man for for an outside company to come
Speaker 1: in and see these characters dis fresh and do them
Speaker 1: this well. Boy oh yeah, Well you could just tell
Speaker 1: that it was a company that cherished the source material
Speaker 1: and this is another thing that I say again and
Speaker 1: again like a broken record, but whenever you see an adaptation,
Speaker 1: the only way it can be good is when the
Speaker 1: source material is respected and revered by the person who's
Speaker 1: making it. Once again, you know, some people love it.
Speaker 1: I don't hate it, you know. But the first live
Speaker 1: action Batman movie we got, Tim Burton never even read
Speaker 1: Batman because he just did his thing and it had
Speaker 1: the best and I think he did pretty well for
Speaker 1: someone who did not do it, because dragon Ball Evolution
Speaker 1: was made by someone who didn't want dragon Ball, and
Speaker 1: that was just I mean, the very the very first
Speaker 1: Batman movie that we were treated to. Besides some of
Speaker 1: the bogies, I'm chaking my fist at my radio, but
Speaker 1: basically one of the it was almost like somebody It's
Speaker 1: like that old parable of the three blind dudes who
Speaker 1: touched the elephant and one of them touched the touch
Speaker 1: the trunk, it says it's a big snake, and one
Speaker 1: of them touched the legs that's a pillar, and one
Speaker 1: of them touched the whatever, and they all have this
Speaker 1: different seeing of it, right to like Tim Burton like
Speaker 1: looked at the very very very surface, the very black,
Speaker 1: dark Night got it and and did a movie that,
Speaker 1: even with just that amount of information, really did it
Speaker 1: pretty decent. Yeah yeah, I really and I you know,
Speaker 1: I I really do still think his Batmobile was really
Speaker 1: I liked it. I still to this day, I was like,
Speaker 1: you nailed that. Batmobile is still one of my favorite batmobiles,
Speaker 1: and I think it is I think the best one
Speaker 1: that has been on the silver screen. I mean it is.
Speaker 1: It is the Cadillac of bab Bobile. Of course, the
Speaker 1: dude from Compain is gonna love the Cadillac of batmore.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like you had the Tumbler, which eventually
Speaker 1: did grow on me, but it was like, like it
Speaker 1: was very much man, this is a whole I know
Speaker 1: we're talking to X men, but there's a whole story
Speaker 1: where you can really see what the creators going for
Speaker 1: in their Batman based off the Batmobile because you look
Speaker 1: at this like elegant, dark, sexy Batmobile. That's kind of
Speaker 1: how you can kind of describe the first Batman because
Speaker 1: when you got you know, the latex catwoman and like
Speaker 1: just like they really ramped up the sex and her
Speaker 1: and then you have you know, the functional realistic tumbler.
Speaker 1: Yea like almost like realistically ugly, Like I think that
Speaker 1: if Christopher Nolan was a fashion photographer, he'd spray on
Speaker 1: acne on the ladies and stuff, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you just do something to dirty it up, because he
Speaker 1: thinks that real is an't aesthetic to aspire to very
Speaker 1: much so, and that's and that was his Batman was
Speaker 1: very realistic, but well as far as far as um
Speaker 1: as far as the X Men go, though, when you
Speaker 1: look at how realistic it is to try to put
Speaker 1: seven the dang years of Cannon into a cartoon, you know,
Speaker 1: at that time, at point at that point, you know,
Speaker 1: like almost forty you know what I mean, trying to
Speaker 1: discover how you're going to characterize all these characters, and
Speaker 1: you know, there are certain shortcuts, like I remember Wolf
Speaker 1: Lady death Strike was was in was in the series,
Speaker 1: and he and she was more of like a lover
Speaker 1: of Wolverine. Little changes like that that would make it
Speaker 1: more engaging for an audience that hadn't read a thousand books.
Speaker 1: But more the most part, like you said, keep into
Speaker 1: the source material, so just to go down the the
Speaker 1: bullet points as always. X Men also known as X Men,
Speaker 1: the animated series or X Men, the TV series is
Speaker 1: an American animated television show and a debuted in on
Speaker 1: Halloween of what a weird day to debut a cartoon,
Speaker 1: you know, the the day that the kids are most
Speaker 1: likely going to be out. Let's let's debut a cartoon
Speaker 1: and uh debut on the Fox Kids network. That was
Speaker 1: four years after I was born. Now, yeah, I nailed it.
Speaker 1: I'm usually not good at quick man. But X Men
Speaker 1: was Marvel comics second attempt to add an animated TV show,
Speaker 1: and it was after the pilot X Men. Pride spelled
Speaker 1: pr I tried to like pronounce it differently. It was
Speaker 1: very weird, but it spelled p r I d E
Speaker 1: Y Kitty Pride. Yeah, and it wasn't picked up. So
Speaker 1: but this this one was a smash Yet. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean it seems like when you find the right team,
Speaker 1: you know, things can happen, especially with Marvel properties. Back
Speaker 1: then they didn't quite have all this control that we
Speaker 1: envisioned them having. Right now, that kind of you're kind
Speaker 1: of giving your baby up to a bunch of doing
Speaker 1: to Korea. You're just like, let's try. Yeah. So, when
Speaker 1: Margaret Loach became the head of the Fox Children's network,
Speaker 1: which basically is the you know, Fox Kids. She was
Speaker 1: the one who was kind of champion the pride of
Speaker 1: X Men pilot back in nine, which is when they
Speaker 1: tried to do it, which I'd love to see that,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to know what the nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: nine X Men animated series was versa. You know, they
Speaker 1: had that animated movie where where Wolverine sounded Australian as
Speaker 1: hell Man Mike on wolver Raine, you know. And it's
Speaker 1: funny because before like comic books became this thing everyone
Speaker 1: was aware of and paying attention to. I can see
Speaker 1: how like someone would look at Wolverine go oh, that
Speaker 1: dude's definitely austral They couldn't see Canada. It's so funny
Speaker 1: that Wolverine is from Canada when he's such a hardcore
Speaker 1: dude and Canadian is supposed to be so nice. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like, I know, that is so funny. It's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's it. And also I found it funny that they
Speaker 1: did do the voice work and Canada. Yeah, they did
Speaker 1: a bunch of voice work in Canada, and I think
Speaker 1: that's funny. They cast a whole cat like I'm a
Speaker 1: in a gambit in Canada. Hey Canadians, can you do
Speaker 1: this casion accent? Oh? Man, that's so funny. H So,
Speaker 1: Sabon Entertainment was the one who was contracted to produce
Speaker 1: the show and ended up hiring the small studio Grass
Speaker 1: Entertainment to produce the episodes because they didn't have staff
Speaker 1: at the time to really do in house production. And
Speaker 1: the Grass employed the creative staff wrote and designed each episode,
Speaker 1: andrew the storyboards, and then the voice work was done using,
Speaker 1: like you said, the Canadian actors, and it was a
Speaker 1: Canadian in South Korean studio called a Calm Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and they were the ones actually animated the episodes after
Speaker 1: looking at the storyboards from the Grass team. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So you remember when I was being real funny about
Speaker 1: it dropping on Halloween and we got a little more
Speaker 1: info on that it was originally set to premiere over
Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend, which sounds like it makes a lot
Speaker 1: more sense, right, But they had some production delays and
Speaker 1: that's why I got pushed through the end of October,
Speaker 1: and when they turned in the first episode to contain
Speaker 1: hundreds of animation errors which ACoM refused to fix. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's that's such a baldy move where it's like you
Speaker 1: you messed it up and you're like, nah, yeah, now
Speaker 1: you told me, well, we're supposed to be black and
Speaker 1: have a mohawk. I did it that way. You know,
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be storm storm na on this. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say email, but was email popping like that
Speaker 1: back then? It had to be. It had to be.
Speaker 1: I'm crazy. Well at this highest levels of the animation,
Speaker 1: maybe it was. But yeah, so, but they had delays
Speaker 1: and a bunch of errors across the first two episodes
Speaker 1: I think, right, yeah, And the second episode ended up
Speaker 1: being turned in like right before the deadline with fifty
Speaker 1: scenes missing, a fifty whole scenes missing, so they only
Speaker 1: had a day for editing, and they kept running into issues,
Speaker 1: and Fox eventually, and honestly, hearing the story much too late,
Speaker 1: kind of put their foot down and said that they're
Speaker 1: all just canceled the contracts if they don't get it right.
Speaker 1: So then they re air at the pilot in early
Speaker 1: and all the errors were corrected and it was history
Speaker 1: from there. Like it's funny. It's like, Oh, all they
Speaker 1: had to do was be like we'll fire you. Oh
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Okay, okay, well we do need a job,
Speaker 1: so I'll take the mohawk off the Canadian guy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess, and we'll we'll see what we could do. Do.
Speaker 1: I have to erase the lightning coming out of his
Speaker 1: close though, because the people in the studio I thought
Speaker 1: that was pretty dope. Now that has to go back
Speaker 1: to But yeah, through the whole series run, the producers
Speaker 1: had to deal with like those same quality control issues
Speaker 1: because people kept trying to cut costs and then eventually
Speaker 1: people were trying to change the tone of the series
Speaker 1: to something more child friendly and you know, trying to
Speaker 1: find a way to get toys to sell on the show,
Speaker 1: which is like, oh, you want to sell toys, just
Speaker 1: keep doing the show like that. That seems like the
Speaker 1: easiest one, but that's a that's an interesting one, right there,
Speaker 1: just be trying to make it child friendly because that
Speaker 1: was like one of the big things I feel about
Speaker 1: X Men was it was it was afraid to just
Speaker 1: you know, treat its audience as a mature group of
Speaker 1: people and just give you these stories. And we think
Speaker 1: about that a lot, and that's why it's so funny
Speaker 1: to see now where uh, you know, people will see
Speaker 1: like the Regular Show and Adventure Times and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: cartoons are so crazy now, and then you know, you know,
Speaker 1: back in mind it was like what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Like X Men was like a straight up it was
Speaker 1: a whole show built around allegory for racism. You know. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I also think that what's funny about the X
Speaker 1: Men show as far as how we metabolize it as
Speaker 1: they are kind of teen problems, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: They're they're teen problems that that little kids were like
Speaker 1: trying to understand. Like there's a love triangle with the
Speaker 1: Jean Gray and and and and cyclaps and Wolverine. There's uh,
Speaker 1: the flirtation between Gambit and uh and Rogue. Yes, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: like teens would relate to. Yeah, just that just to
Speaker 1: focus on the Gavitt and Rogue too. That's a very
Speaker 1: mature because you know, you have the love triangle, which
Speaker 1: is a mature war relationship. But nothing's more mature than
Speaker 1: I feel like that classic Rogue Gambit one because it's
Speaker 1: the situation of like even if they did want to
Speaker 1: pursue a relationship, they couldn't because rogues powers would murder gambit. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's just as a kid when you're
Speaker 1: just learning about sex to be like dang, I think
Speaker 1: they should have did that when like a sex ad,
Speaker 1: you know that there's some women that will take your soul,
Speaker 1: some women I know that' that'd be the weirdest sex
Speaker 1: ed where it's that'd be like a story Southern sex
Speaker 1: ad where they just blame it all on the woman,
Speaker 1: real eve status stuff. There's a real ruinous But the
Speaker 1: bottom line is like it was a golden opportunity to
Speaker 1: trick kids and to think that they're gonna lose their
Speaker 1: powers if they if they have prepared and they wasted it.
Speaker 1: They wasted it. They could have done so much more
Speaker 1: of all the myths. You know what I'm saying, marijuana
Speaker 1: is addictive, you know, all these different myths they dropped
Speaker 1: on us. They could have did that one and maybe
Speaker 1: saying some lives. So as far as the show goes,
Speaker 1: they featured the X Men with the nineties look. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's important to add because because because that
Speaker 1: is a very specific look which ended up having that
Speaker 1: yellow suit wolverine that hasn't went anywhere since since the
Speaker 1: since it came in until like I liked brown suit,
Speaker 1: brown suit Wolvey. Well, what was funny was he very
Speaker 1: very first came out in the yellow suit and it
Speaker 1: was almost like Daredevil's weird yellow suit. But it's like,
Speaker 1: this is so ugly and weird, and these tiger stripes.
Speaker 1: You're not a tiger, You're wolf. Wolvers don't have weird
Speaker 1: tiger stripes. This whole thing doesn't make sense. You got
Speaker 1: blue gloves, like just like stupid. And then and then
Speaker 1: he kind of went to this really cool, like uh
Speaker 1: Ninja Peladin muted color scheme with the brown and the
Speaker 1: yellow brown and the tawny like a lion's color, and
Speaker 1: the and the and the comic books and stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 1: by the time that Jim Lee started drawing it again,
Speaker 1: I mean Jim Lee can make any uniform look good.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and know he was like He's like, no,
Speaker 1: I like this weirdness. It's all about me. Jim Lee's
Speaker 1: He's phenomenal. He's his footprints, footprints, he's stepping all over
Speaker 1: the pages, his his fingerprints are all over this. Oh yea,
Speaker 1: Because it definitely was kind of just borrowing from his
Speaker 1: era of X Men and I got I gotta say,
Speaker 1: being like a nineties kid, quote unquote, is you you
Speaker 1: just love Jim Lee. It's all about the lines, you know,
Speaker 1: lines on lines onlines, and the kids who are the
Speaker 1: kids like me who are really into like I was
Speaker 1: really into inking and I was like, yeah, man, you
Speaker 1: guys don't appreciate Scott Williams all those little tick marks. Baby,
Speaker 1: give me more tick marks. That means it's really there.
Speaker 1: Even though it looks hella two D now you look
Speaker 1: at and stuff generally just don't get it twisted. But like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jim Lee even said when he was designing a couple
Speaker 1: of toys that it was revealed to him that he
Speaker 1: draws hella two D. Like he doesn't draw three D.
Speaker 1: He draws two D. He draws for a two D medium.
Speaker 1: He's his Artsts have been ever heard that story of
Speaker 1: how Jim Lee basically his parents were Korean obviously, and
Speaker 1: his parents were like, yeah, man, you're gonna but you're
Speaker 1: gonna be a doctor and all that jazz, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to And basically he took he took
Speaker 1: some years off of college and he ran on the
Speaker 1: beach and drew comics all day. When he was running
Speaker 1: on the beach, he would be like burn Miller Claire,
Speaker 1: running like like like thinking of the type of person
Speaker 1: he was going to be in comics and and his
Speaker 1: body in shape too, and then he would sit for
Speaker 1: like ten hours and draw comics and submit his packages
Speaker 1: and stuff. And that's how he got in. That's awesome. So,
Speaker 1: like you had to have his designs be that integral
Speaker 1: to the company that they through a third party you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying to something like through through third
Speaker 1: party transmission, his design still lasted. That's some heavy duty stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean, but that's that's what happens when
Speaker 1: you want it that bad, you know, but you're just
Speaker 1: like I need this, so then you just become the best.
Speaker 1: But specifically, what we're talking about in the Gym Lie
Speaker 1: era is the Blue team, which I guess we can
Speaker 1: talk about the Blue and the Gold team. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: one was Classes on it. It It looks like a fake
Speaker 1: nerd right now, but I loved I loved Classes as anything.
Speaker 1: I loved him throwing people. That was my fastball special. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is going to be the gold team because the
Speaker 1: Blue team is Cyclops team, which had Wolverine, Rogue, Storm Beast, Gambit, Jubilee,
Speaker 1: Jean Gray, and Professor X, as well as morph this
Speaker 1: this is on the show. Let me get the this
Speaker 1: is on the show. Let me get the actual Blue team,
Speaker 1: because I know more we got to talk about. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about more, because that that is something. Even
Speaker 1: with the second not as popular animated series X Men Evolution,
Speaker 1: they had fun just adding a new character that everyone
Speaker 1: made fun of. And I remember in high school. This
Speaker 1: is that. Yeah, because high schools when Evolution came out.
Speaker 1: And the reason I remember is because I think it
Speaker 1: had to be like it had to be like seventh
Speaker 1: or sixth grade. I was going in on on Spike,
Speaker 1: who was there made up character, and man, this teacher
Speaker 1: I think it was like I forget his name, but
Speaker 1: he looked like Eric Banat and he got so mad.
Speaker 1: He was like, he's like, Spike is actually a good character,
Speaker 1: and he's trying to tell me why. I was like, look,
Speaker 1: of course, you who look like Eric Banat is gonna
Speaker 1: wanna stand for the weirdo character. Oh man, he's gonna
Speaker 1: never listen to this. I was gonna say, he's gonna
Speaker 1: listen to this. And so why. I don't know. He
Speaker 1: was a nerd, so he might be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: he'd be very happy with how you turned out from
Speaker 1: a little little jerk. Yeah. Yeah, he's like, I guess
Speaker 1: you put that dork nerdiness to good use. So yeah,
Speaker 1: So was it was that basically that Blue team who
Speaker 1: came through, and yes, Colossus was on the Gold team.
Speaker 1: But you know, you're you're saying how much you hate Morph.
Speaker 1: We went into it, We touched on it with you
Speaker 1: know how it was with Spike. Let's really jump into
Speaker 1: it after the break and welcome back to nerdificent. That
Speaker 1: was I think that was the most lax, you know,
Speaker 1: lead into that break we've had. We were like, let's
Speaker 1: just do five out rows. But yeah, back with Ed Greer,
Speaker 1: we're talking X Men, the animated series, and you know,
Speaker 1: they added once. So for the most part, the cast
Speaker 1: consisted of what was known as a Blue Team at
Speaker 1: the time, but we did go ahead and add an
Speaker 1: extra character based off of change Link called Morph, which well,
Speaker 1: but you know what's interesting about that. I do think
Speaker 1: that the X Men even Morph is something that is
Speaker 1: serious to X Men lore, because the X Men really
Speaker 1: get off on the fact that like they can die,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, even though they've come back
Speaker 1: a bunch of times in the comic books. We're talking
Speaker 1: about the show, but everybody knows how often they come back.
Speaker 1: In the comic books, all of them seem to have
Speaker 1: been been killed at some point and come back or
Speaker 1: been changed a little little versions of themselves or something
Speaker 1: of that nature. But for the show, I think it
Speaker 1: is important to show, in like a team setting, that
Speaker 1: that yeah, we're all a bunch of kids doing a
Speaker 1: bunch of high fluting adventures and they're fun and all,
Speaker 1: but we can die. So they always put some extra
Speaker 1: person like James Proud Star in the original you know,
Speaker 1: giant size I mean, yeah, giant size X Men, somebody
Speaker 1: that can die to show how dangerous the X Men
Speaker 1: situation is. And I think Morph is another and a
Speaker 1: long line of X Men just like red Shirts. Basically,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what's so funny? Is you know? I
Speaker 1: I was just kind of looking up pictures of Morph
Speaker 1: to to just look and I was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I totally did forget about this guy. And the first
Speaker 1: thing I find my search is this Sci Fi Wire
Speaker 1: article that's titled why Morph was the best character of
Speaker 1: the X Men animated series. Well, do you know click
Speaker 1: bait Reign Supreme? Yeah? Oh man, that seems really click
Speaker 1: bitey to me, like because everybody who clicks on that
Speaker 1: article wants to fight the person. That's the move. That's
Speaker 1: how you do it, you know, like come fight me.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about X Man and we're talking about how,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like teed off the the m
Speaker 1: c U. Which is a good way to kind of
Speaker 1: I like doing a call back into a segway because
Speaker 1: I might as well just force it because that's super force.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna call back into a seguay. But when
Speaker 1: you were talking about how it was the beginning of
Speaker 1: the m c U, you we did have some crossovers
Speaker 1: because we're talking about the Spider Man series. How there
Speaker 1: were there was that crossover they had with the Spider
Speaker 1: Man series. We had like Spider Man had to pick teams.
Speaker 1: He first he needed some help with some mutations or something,
Speaker 1: and then they had some kind of adventure where we
Speaker 1: had to pick pick a team of heroes and he
Speaker 1: picked Storm, which you know, what's what's great about it.
Speaker 1: If if I might break into this when you're a
Speaker 1: little kid looking at X men even in these in
Speaker 1: these shows, you always try to identify one. It was like,
Speaker 1: you know, pick your turtle, you know what type of
Speaker 1: style and and so who who did you identify with?
Speaker 1: Like we're talking about just a show, who is your
Speaker 1: who is your person? Where you're just like men, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little, a little if he's putting on a putting
Speaker 1: some knives in his hands, or it was Wolverine, like
Speaker 1: that's that's what's so funny about me. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why I go so hard on like Vegeta heads.
Speaker 1: It is because because like I was like the Wolverine character,
Speaker 1: and I feel like the same type of person who
Speaker 1: loves Wolverine is the same type of person who loves
Speaker 1: Vegeta because they're like, you know, he's like the bad
Speaker 1: dude and he does what he wants and he's like
Speaker 1: edge and that's why I like him. And I feel
Speaker 1: like that's the same thing for Veginta. Everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he has like character progression, you know he's but really
Speaker 1: it's like he was bad, now he's good. That's the
Speaker 1: character progression. Oh he loves his daughter, that's a character progression.
Speaker 1: And then Goku is the dumb guy because he's like
Speaker 1: loves to fight, and he's one note and goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's written into that box. That's true. But like
Speaker 1: he always I think the one thing everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: Goku this, this, and it's and it's fun to have
Speaker 1: this conversation without Danny here to interrupt and try and
Speaker 1: put her two cents in. But she'll have some good points,
Speaker 1: but they're a vein yeah, they're all that. She is
Speaker 1: such a Vegita stand. I'm a Goku stand. But I
Speaker 1: just like the concept of the idea of like always
Speaker 1: giving someone a chance, like like, look, I don't want
Speaker 1: to have to body you, like we could be friends.
Speaker 1: We can use this energy to be better. But you
Speaker 1: know I will if I have to. Well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean as far as as far as Wolverine, I think
Speaker 1: he was a big, a big stand. Like I said,
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I was a little chagrined
Speaker 1: that they didn't do a bunch of Colossus on the
Speaker 1: on the X Men show, because like that was my guy.
Speaker 1: Like I just liked this purity of heart and it
Speaker 1: was like one of those characters. It was the first
Speaker 1: time I knew that I was rooting for somebody that
Speaker 1: I was not, like, yeah, I am not like that
Speaker 1: at all. I wish I was like that, dude, I'm
Speaker 1: not like him at all. But on the team, I
Speaker 1: think the only person I think I just rooted against
Speaker 1: Gambit yeah as far as yeah, to take it back,
Speaker 1: I have to take it back. It wasn't Wolverine. I
Speaker 1: was a Gambit stand. I thought he was so cool,
Speaker 1: like he always was getting the ladies. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know he had those cards. He was like, look,
Speaker 1: I was a huge It looked like if the Church
Speaker 1: Cot Mafia went to Raves, you know what. Look, I
Speaker 1: was all about it, and like I think I said
Speaker 1: this before. I was all about gamm it until he
Speaker 1: started getting bodied and Marvel Versus Cap coming, I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta find a new faith when that, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know you want to when you play a
Speaker 1: game like Marvel versus Cap come, You're like, I want
Speaker 1: to pick my face, and when your face is getting
Speaker 1: bodied by everyone else, That's what when I used to
Speaker 1: play with on a sports note, when I played two
Speaker 1: K with like teams that aren't good right now, but
Speaker 1: I really like them, Like you learn how the tips
Speaker 1: and tricks start beating people and then they're just like, man,
Speaker 1: you're cheating, not just know my players. Dog. A fun
Speaker 1: fact about the crossovers they were doing was the storyline
Speaker 1: where like the Beyonder and Madam Webb or getting Spider
Speaker 1: Man to lead like the heroes on an adventure, which
Speaker 1: basically the one you were talking about with Storm. The
Speaker 1: reason they wanted it to have all the X Men,
Speaker 1: but they didn't do it because transporting the cast to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, where Spider Man was done from Canada was
Speaker 1: too expensive, so they had to like just pick it,
Speaker 1: just like them trying to get there. Also tryings playing
Speaker 1: out of the Bill stuff, but they're just making a
Speaker 1: bunch of that that's my flight, like, oh my gosh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they so they just got it. Uh And and
Speaker 1: basically Storm lived in Los Angeles, so just was a
Speaker 1: no brainer. And yeah that's uh And and Hoke and
Speaker 1: she Hulk, you know they they were in the incredible
Speaker 1: Hulk animated series, but because it was on the rival
Speaker 1: network up N, they couldn't do a crossover. Um and
Speaker 1: I think this was before the underpay Negro Rose era.
Speaker 1: You people's network, that's what you like. I always uh my,
Speaker 1: my mom always called the underpaid Negro. I would there
Speaker 1: you go. That's the different different forms of humor about
Speaker 1: that situation that you ben man. The people who either
Speaker 1: never had up n or didn't like grow up in
Speaker 1: the US are gonna be like, what what are they
Speaker 1: talking about? It was it was a CW before the
Speaker 1: c W. Yeah it was, and imagine the CW, but
Speaker 1: it's all black sitcoms for some reason. Yeah, Homeboys and
Speaker 1: Outer Space. I'm just leave it right there. I'm just
Speaker 1: leaving right there. But as far as speaking of Homeboys
Speaker 1: and out of Space, it seems like that the X
Speaker 1: Men didn't go to space to like the third season.
Speaker 1: It seems like they were they were kicking it on
Speaker 1: Earth for a little bit. Oh yeah, and that's a
Speaker 1: you know, that's something I get real hyped about. Uh
Speaker 1: and I think we mentioned it on a previous episode,
Speaker 1: the difference between like, you know, street level uh Marvel characters,
Speaker 1: your your world level Marvel characters, and then your cosmic level.
Speaker 1: And and you know, if you did see this, you're
Speaker 1: probably one of the main people who got hyped at
Speaker 1: that in sneak peak at the end of Guardians of
Speaker 1: the Galaxy because because that's that's really what introduced you know,
Speaker 1: Gladiator when he came into the picture, and then we
Speaker 1: started getting some Phoenix stuff too. Yeah, gosh. Well, and
Speaker 1: the and the thing is I always loved when the
Speaker 1: X Men went to space. You talked about that street
Speaker 1: level slash, you know, Massachusetts level slash, your Madhatt level slash,
Speaker 1: world level, and then cosmic. The X Men to me,
Speaker 1: were the first people from Earth to go into space
Speaker 1: and do major damage, you know what I mean, they
Speaker 1: kind of went, especially with the whole ru Empire situation.
Speaker 1: You know, uh, Professor X girlfriend taking him to space
Speaker 1: and they're having some space adventures, getting involved in her
Speaker 1: empire adventures. All that kind of stuff really showed me that, like,
Speaker 1: these guys each have like one power, but all together
Speaker 1: they're a cosmic entity almost like they can have an
Speaker 1: effect on an interstellar war. They can. I think that's
Speaker 1: the whole thing about the X Men that a lot
Speaker 1: of people keyed on was like, especially like loners like me.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I wish I had a squad.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, And you're right, because like it was
Speaker 1: the thing where their powers were kind of immense and
Speaker 1: oftentimes written to be weaker than what like on paper,
Speaker 1: they actually are like if you like, that's the X
Speaker 1: Men classic conversations like okay, now O level gambit? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Which one of the things to let people like sleep
Speaker 1: on is that Iceman is an Omega level mutant. Like,
Speaker 1: and I feel like Iceman got a lot of crap
Speaker 1: for some time where he's like, oh, you just you
Speaker 1: could do the ice. He was like, well, he can
Speaker 1: literally turn the atmosphere to ice, like that's how strong
Speaker 1: he is. But they never explore that, except they did
Speaker 1: have one comic where they have to kill Iceman. I
Speaker 1: think because he goes bad it's super hard. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean as far as as far as the X
Speaker 1: Men goes, I mean each of their powers. I like
Speaker 1: the fact that, like when they break them up into
Speaker 1: factions and they make them in the sub teams. Part
Speaker 1: of I think Professor X would really like to play
Speaker 1: Madden or Clash of Clans or something, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I think he'd really love that type
Speaker 1: of stuff because it's like, all right, I got my tank,
Speaker 1: I got this guy, I got you know, I got
Speaker 1: Wolverine to get shot up, a beast to jump around
Speaker 1: like some pain. But yeah, I think I think It's
Speaker 1: interesting that, like X Men's whole style throughout the series
Speaker 1: and the com books and everything, they take on things
Speaker 1: that could beat up a whole team. I think that's
Speaker 1: also interesting. They hardly ever run into some sort of
Speaker 1: They run into teams a lot, but the offer just
Speaker 1: run into some dude Magneto, I'll take you all out, Juggernaut,
Speaker 1: I'll take you'll all out. Oh yeah. And I think
Speaker 1: it is the funny perfect beef of like Wolverines hate
Speaker 1: for Magneto, where it's like, oh, you want to fight
Speaker 1: the one dude, embody you easily, like the one dude.
Speaker 1: It was like it would be if like Superman wanted
Speaker 1: to fight Kryptonite Man all the time. It's like, this
Speaker 1: is the one guy who like he really has no
Speaker 1: problem with you. But that's the guy you want to
Speaker 1: just go wild. Oh dude, that But that's Wolverine's personality
Speaker 1: so much. It's like he's always trying to fight. Basically,
Speaker 1: you're trying to mac on the girl who can hear
Speaker 1: your thoughts, right, You're trying to take her from a
Speaker 1: dude who could blast you from hell of far away.
Speaker 1: You got you, sure, you got short arms, Sure had
Speaker 1: to box the cyclaus you know what I mean, He's
Speaker 1: just he's just he's a runt to the core, which
Speaker 1: is why I kind of do like Wolverine. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why a lot of people like him though,
Speaker 1: because he is like almost this underdog who is like
Speaker 1: his his his superpower amongst being like, you know, an
Speaker 1: adamantium coded claw guy, which is like, let's let's just
Speaker 1: reverse it back, because like a lot of people oftentimes
Speaker 1: stakenly say, like, oh, Wolverine's power is adamantinium clausets like, No,
Speaker 1: his power is bone claws and regeneration. They were coated
Speaker 1: in animatium, and that's your I'm actually you can take
Speaker 1: with you to work and drop anywhere you like. Also,
Speaker 1: they're not a power because there's been several times when
Speaker 1: Wolverine has been bound or some sort of situation where
Speaker 1: they turned off his mutant powers and he just pops
Speaker 1: his claws, you know what I mean. Because and what
Speaker 1: was hilarious though, because if you, if somebody wanted to,
Speaker 1: will actually trace busta bust to you on that. It's
Speaker 1: like back in my day when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: it seems like they had that they were supposedly in
Speaker 1: bionic housings in his forearms that make them pop out,
Speaker 1: and that's why they would always work. But if you
Speaker 1: nified somebody's mutant abilities, could that limit them from tensing
Speaker 1: their muscles or whatever that would pop out the clause
Speaker 1: nerd talk, But like but yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: there's all that kind of stuff that you get into
Speaker 1: with Wolverine and with I used to love when they
Speaker 1: would have um um Storm fight people because like, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, Yeah, she's powerful, like ice Man.
Speaker 1: There's so much stuff that she cast. Yeah, she's a guy.
Speaker 1: You know. She controls the weather, and that is one
Speaker 1: of those things that you know, where you right an
Speaker 1: open book. There's so much you can do with it,
Speaker 1: and so much that probably hasn't even been explored yet
Speaker 1: with the ability to control the weather period. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the responsibility there in like does she feel bad with
Speaker 1: like hurricanes happen? I know, like like you could have
Speaker 1: stopped that you took a nap? Why will you take
Speaker 1: get the nap now? And I love how they explore
Speaker 1: even in the series, they explore a little bit about
Speaker 1: her Her powers are are linked to her emotions, so
Speaker 1: that when she gets in a bad mood. Like in
Speaker 1: comic books. I'll love how sometimes she'll make a little
Speaker 1: baby storm to like water a plant, you know, just
Speaker 1: a little a little tiny thunderstorm with lightning and everything
Speaker 1: to to water a plant or stuff that showing how
Speaker 1: fine her control is. But in the show and the
Speaker 1: TV series, um, it seems like they're more tied to
Speaker 1: her emotions. You could get her flustered and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden the skies get dark. Yeah, but let's
Speaker 1: just kind of bounce around and like talk about the
Speaker 1: things that are because you know, and like you said,
Speaker 1: in the third season, they went cosmic and that's kind
Speaker 1: of when they started introducing a little bit of the
Speaker 1: you know, you had the whole, uh, the phoenix thing.
Speaker 1: But I think we should reverse just a little bit
Speaker 1: and talk about the cast of characters. So because surprisingly
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about that, because I feel like it's
Speaker 1: weird when you do, when we do a nerdficent on
Speaker 1: things like this that are so the zeitgeist that it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone kind of knows every x men. But let's just
Speaker 1: do it and we can talk about how we feel
Speaker 1: about each of them. First up in the foremost Cyclops. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was the No, we'll get into this because I'm well,
Speaker 1: we'll get into this because I've had an interesting relationship
Speaker 1: with Cyclops. The Cyclops Okay, Scott Summers. He was voiced
Speaker 1: by Norm Spencer, and he was basically the second in
Speaker 1: command of the X Men, you know, obviously Professor X
Speaker 1: being the top dog. He can fire concussive blast from
Speaker 1: his eyes. Uh he not heat. Yeah, the bastards out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's concussive. Yeah, not heat. You're not burning. And he
Speaker 1: and Jean Gray are in a relationship and apparently at
Speaker 1: the end of the fourth season they get married when
Speaker 1: Apocalypse has been you know, doing his dirty work. I
Speaker 1: for the longest was not the biggest fan of Cyclaps.
Speaker 1: I never liked them, and it was it's kind of
Speaker 1: like my roles reversed an X Men, where like, you know,
Speaker 1: I did not like how goody two shoes Cyclaus was.
Speaker 1: He was the teacher's pet. He was, you know, I
Speaker 1: I like, just something about that really made me dislike him.
Speaker 1: In the only time I started liking Cyclaps and this
Speaker 1: is gonna step out of the show and onto the
Speaker 1: page a little more, was during once we got towards
Speaker 1: um Avengers versus X Men, because I really like his
Speaker 1: whole so his militant period, yeah, I didn't like that
Speaker 1: at all. Actually, I think I started to like him
Speaker 1: once he we got two Avengers versus X Men Cyclops,
Speaker 1: because I felt like he finally was stepping up to
Speaker 1: the plate as a leader into because it just always
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, I think the best description is
Speaker 1: right here, second in command. He never took initiative, and
Speaker 1: I felt he was so emotional and there's so much
Speaker 1: things he wished he could do and this, that and
Speaker 1: the other, and he just never followed through with it
Speaker 1: so well. I mean, I think I think what's interesting
Speaker 1: about him is it takes a lot to be the
Speaker 1: leader character. And I think that's one of the things
Speaker 1: that is interesting about screenwriting is most people's original screenplays,
Speaker 1: the main character is super flawless. Nobody has to tell
Speaker 1: them nothing. Each of the character, everybody, all the characters
Speaker 1: know everything that everybody is about to say, and the
Speaker 1: conversation just flow like butter, you know, And there's there's
Speaker 1: a there's a distinct, like a conflict. There's all these
Speaker 1: different things and like they'll they'll be they'll never be
Speaker 1: a character. I always had trouble writing the character that
Speaker 1: goes damn Blade, that was tight what you did. Like,
Speaker 1: I always hated writing that character. But you need that
Speaker 1: character and fiction, there's got to be somebody that does
Speaker 1: the moment for the audience to go, that's Michael Payne
Speaker 1: your reacted to aunt man. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's really hard to write that character. And conversely, it's
Speaker 1: hard to write the character that goes Wolverene. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: go do that, stay back at the thing. Wow, Na, Bob,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. You know what I mean. The guy
Speaker 1: who's constantly telling people that they can't do stuff. That
Speaker 1: the kind of Yoda character. They're supposed to be so
Speaker 1: damn smart, but all their advice sucks. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's a hard character, right, But also
Speaker 1: it's it's it's understandable. You know, this is you know,
Speaker 1: me older and having to take leadership on certain issues
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily not want to go. I think the
Speaker 1: most recent kind of element of this was in Destiny
Speaker 1: to the Forsaken storyline, which you know, the the expansion
Speaker 1: was built off this. So this isn't a spoiler, but
Speaker 1: when Cade six dies and uh, Cora and the main
Speaker 1: character want to get revenge. Uh, it's Zavala. The Titan
Speaker 1: Guardian is like, yo, we shouldn't do that. We have
Speaker 1: to protect the whole universe. We don't have time to
Speaker 1: go into petty revenge fight. Everyone hated him for Everyone
Speaker 1: was like, this guy sucks. He doesn't want and it's like,
Speaker 1: I get why you're mad, but that is he is, right?
Speaker 1: Is he is like we are whole home base. The
Speaker 1: start of the expansion was it almost got destroyed. All
Speaker 1: we were almost wiped out. So I can see why
Speaker 1: from a leadership position you can't advise someone to go
Speaker 1: do it, But if they go behind your back and
Speaker 1: do it, you're not gonna be mad at him. Right, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always there's it's always sucks to be the guy
Speaker 1: who's going like we can't expend those resources or whatever.
Speaker 1: That always is a sucky guy in movies and stuff.
Speaker 1: But if anybody wants a story about Cyclops where he's
Speaker 1: actually cool, there's Looking at Josh Weeden's run, he does
Speaker 1: a really really good job of repurposing that whole legend
Speaker 1: of him just basically being bequeathed the leadership role because
Speaker 1: he had such a little confidence that Professor X was like,
Speaker 1: if this was never gonna do anything, I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta make him the leader because he sucks otherwise, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and just him been putting on
Speaker 1: that role. And then there are certain things in the
Speaker 1: Josh Weeden run that show you that Cyclouds is really smart,
Speaker 1: really manipulative and very very very powerful when he when
Speaker 1: he when he lets loose, and I think it's it's
Speaker 1: just sad that it came that late. You know, so
Speaker 1: many people kind of did write him as a stick
Speaker 1: in them, but including in the show. But he does
Speaker 1: get the girls. So yeah, So so that was this tradeoff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was in in Schism where I really
Speaker 1: where you really kind of see the because I forget
Speaker 1: what came the timeline of those comics. So there was
Speaker 1: schism that happened that basically split the X Men up
Speaker 1: into Wolverines X Men and Cyclops X Men, and then
Speaker 1: there was X Men versus the Avengers because all the
Speaker 1: X Men get like Phoenix Force basically have become like
Speaker 1: a big gang almost like what what that section of
Speaker 1: Marvel comics was like, It was like the late nineties
Speaker 1: of the Authority. They they were the super powerful wild
Speaker 1: Star characters who basically ran their world. Yeah okay, so yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: this does make sense. And so yeah, schism happened first,
Speaker 1: and that's when I really was anti Scott. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy's wag had a YadA YadA. And then the
Speaker 1: Avengers versus X Men and they get the Phoenix Force.
Speaker 1: Was it was pretty it was it was pretty hard,
Speaker 1: Like I was against him, but I really respect the
Speaker 1: stance he took. And then they became the Phoenix Force
Speaker 1: and that was wild. That was That's a good read,
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Squid Odd. Yeah, but yeah, so uh and
Speaker 1: so yeah he was the leader that was kind of
Speaker 1: a stick of the mud. Then at Wolverine, who everybody loved. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody loves Wolverine because he's he's the he's a bad dude.
Speaker 1: He writes motorcycles a logan. Anybody who's ever had a
Speaker 1: skin knee wanted to be Wolverine. Yeah. So Wolverine was
Speaker 1: voiced by Cathology Dodd. He's a mutant with regenerative healing factor,
Speaker 1: heightened senses, and adamantium laced skeleton that render his bones,
Speaker 1: virtually indestructible and retractable claws capable of cutting virtually anything.
Speaker 1: He was attracted to Jeane, but decided not to come
Speaker 1: between her and Scott after many attempts of coming in
Speaker 1: between her. And that's the funniest part about that character description.
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, it's like a, yeah, I I stopped
Speaker 1: attempting the banks supermodel. No, no, you never had a chance.
Speaker 1: You never got close. What are you? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, I'm done. You. I guess you
Speaker 1: could have. But I think, you know, the more I
Speaker 1: think about it, I can totally see why Wolverine is
Speaker 1: so popular and why I might have hated uh, Scott
Speaker 1: so much because Cyclops was the jock, he was the leader,
Speaker 1: he was the goodie, he was the teacher's pet. He
Speaker 1: was jacked, he had the girl, and he had this
Speaker 1: guy Wolverine who everyone kind of looked down upon, didn't
Speaker 1: trust he you know, he had this dark past, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was Wolverine was an other in a group of others.
Speaker 1: That's interesting, and they did treat him like like a
Speaker 1: shelter pet, and he was significantly older than everybody. I
Speaker 1: think that's something that is very lost on people understanding
Speaker 1: the you know what I mean, Like most of the
Speaker 1: time you think of Wolverine is just like a hairy
Speaker 1: version of these kids, but like it's like two years old,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And he's kicking it with
Speaker 1: these kids and trying to like learn, and he's like
Speaker 1: he's community college dog. Yeah, Like he's a strade community
Speaker 1: college with powers, and he's chilling out in here and
Speaker 1: all these dumb kids are all these pheromones are going
Speaker 1: around and he's like, I want to get in on this,
Speaker 1: but like chill out. Then we have Rogue, and she
Speaker 1: possesses the uncontrollable ability to absorb memories, powers, and energy
Speaker 1: of whoever she touches. But if Rogue holds onto someone
Speaker 1: too long, their consciousness will be trapped in her subconscious
Speaker 1: and she has permanently absorbed the superhero strength, durability, and
Speaker 1: flight of Miss Marvel. It's Marvel left was left comatose
Speaker 1: because of this. I think I missed that whole like explanation,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was that was way back in the
Speaker 1: days for for comics fans. I was like, so was
Speaker 1: this something that happened off the show? Oh yeah? And
Speaker 1: then well, and I think I think they might have
Speaker 1: referenced it a little bit, uh and in some way
Speaker 1: to kind of see how that she did that. But
Speaker 1: like rogues regular powers are pretty like I'm just walking
Speaker 1: around and imagine if the Marvel movie comes out the
Speaker 1: Fox Steel went through everything's good. We introduced the X
Speaker 1: Men and they used they use that storyline and then
Speaker 1: Brie Larson is one and done in the movie because
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, she's incompetos. Now Rogue has her powers.
Speaker 1: Fans would be so mad. Cut cut to the pager
Speaker 1: in her hospital bed just shaking up. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: like but then it's picked up by Rogue, like he
Speaker 1: fans would be so confused. Can you imagine if, like
Speaker 1: if that was the end where like it's picked up
Speaker 1: by because you'd be excited because it's the X Men,
Speaker 1: but she'd be mad because you lost Miss Marvel. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think where I think we could see a cool
Speaker 1: do over where you could see that actual storyline come in,
Speaker 1: you know when they when they get their stuff together
Speaker 1: and get get other properties that to get along. We
Speaker 1: could see a lot of these things. I liked Rogue
Speaker 1: because she was always the person who out of these
Speaker 1: X Men, besides like maybe say Nightcrawler and he wasn't
Speaker 1: really on the show, but like, besides Nightcrawler, the one
Speaker 1: whose power sucked the most, like messed our lives, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know with with Scott Summers, she asked, you
Speaker 1: gotta wear glasses all the time, even in the shower. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so true. We never talked about that. Even in
Speaker 1: the shower, you got to wear those glasses or you
Speaker 1: blast in a hole in your shower exactly, so you
Speaker 1: have to. So but for the most part, these people
Speaker 1: didn't show any ill effects for their powers. But she
Speaker 1: was unable to literally touch people, and we really really
Speaker 1: discount how important that is. Yeah, oh man, that's so true.
Speaker 1: But I still don't think she has the power that
Speaker 1: sucks the most, and I think it's never dressed and
Speaker 1: I would love it. Jubilee can only shoot finals. I
Speaker 1: don't know how We've like let this go long enough
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just save the roast till we get
Speaker 1: to her, because I'm gonna read her power what they
Speaker 1: have the description, because I never read the description. I'm
Speaker 1: a scoff at it. And then go into this rant
Speaker 1: and I'm getting ready to Oh, let's give credit to
Speaker 1: lenora'son she played in the thing. So all right, you
Speaker 1: want to do Storm? Yeah, yeah, Storm, Aurora Monroe, uh
Speaker 1: Iana Moors who we mentioned earlier in ninety three and
Speaker 1: Alison Seeley Smith from to ninety seven. She's able to
Speaker 1: control the weather. Like we said before, basically a goddess.
Speaker 1: She's second in command of the X Men. Uh and
Speaker 1: that that's a always been something cool that has not
Speaker 1: been explored, but also something to complain about, Like it
Speaker 1: seems like Storm is older than uh Scott yet yet
Speaker 1: she can't get full control of the team. While we
Speaker 1: giving into this new Scott, Storm is much more capable.
Speaker 1: Well you know, you know what wo would be Uh,
Speaker 1: it would be interesting to see them in the comic books.
Speaker 1: They do have a real battle of our control. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you who has control right now, and welcome back.
Speaker 1: Ed hit me with that snee ad break. It's right,
Speaker 1: We're back me and Ed Greer. We're gonna close out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna say, go through the rest of these characters,
Speaker 1: talk about the arcs, and then close it out for y'all.
Speaker 1: I hope you're having fun, because we definitely are, because
Speaker 1: we believe we didn't even do all these characters. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about Storm, Auroral Monroe. She controls the weather.
Speaker 1: She uh you know, like we were saying, she's basically Yeah,
Speaker 1: there has been this thing where she's kind of been
Speaker 1: like the other leader and honestly more capable than Scott.
Speaker 1: And there has been runs where they did have like
Speaker 1: a fight for power and she kind of like lead.
Speaker 1: There were a few comics where she had her own
Speaker 1: team and ran off and then what was the one
Speaker 1: where it was all women and I think Storm led
Speaker 1: that squad. Remember, I think that was all new all
Speaker 1: different X men. Yeah, and uh, what's interesting about about
Speaker 1: her is they do give her a little a few
Speaker 1: weaknesses like a claustrophobia. Yeah, and uh, bad tasting dudes,
Speaker 1: what do you are? You are you trying to come
Speaker 1: at my man's and challa, Uh you know what, they're
Speaker 1: not married, is all I'm saying. Look, and then last
Speaker 1: that's the real Eric. Oh my gosh, that that made
Speaker 1: me so mad when they broke them up. There was
Speaker 1: no reason, like like that was so salty in comics
Speaker 1: around that time, because they canceled Black Panther, they broke
Speaker 1: up Aurora and because that was over the Avengance versus
Speaker 1: X Men, speaking of which that's when they broke up,
Speaker 1: and I was so pissed I would and they did
Speaker 1: not red conn it. They did not get them back together.
Speaker 1: They're just not together. Yeah, yeah, but it always I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I liked it enough, but I also
Speaker 1: thought it was like, you know, you're two black nerd
Speaker 1: friends at the party meet each other, and I was
Speaker 1: there for to to two pieces of African royalty. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm here for it. You can tell, you
Speaker 1: can tell who's the African in the room right now,
Speaker 1: because I was like, yes, let's go. No, you're you're
Speaker 1: You're right that that was It wasn't It wasn't Luke
Speaker 1: Cage and Storm, Yeah it was. It was Storm. So
Speaker 1: there's a there's a graduated Africanness, graduated Africanness. So then
Speaker 1: we have a beast who I think is probably one
Speaker 1: of the more popular X Men outside of like your Usual,
Speaker 1: which is Dr Henry Hank McCoy, which was voiced by
Speaker 1: George Bouza, and basically his mutation, I mean like he
Speaker 1: got Harry and he got superhuman strength and agility, but
Speaker 1: really it felt like his because he wasn't like out
Speaker 1: here toss and toss and stuff, you know, like he
Speaker 1: didn't feel like he had superhuman strength. He felt like
Speaker 1: he had like the superhero human strength of like the
Speaker 1: dude who plays the mountain on Game of Throb. Like
Speaker 1: he's a power Like he's as strong as a power lifter,
Speaker 1: not necessarily, and he can like read upside down like
Speaker 1: that was his big thing that they love. They loved
Speaker 1: having scenes where they walked in on him reading upside
Speaker 1: down like that, why would you do that? That what?
Speaker 1: I don't see that being comfortable even if you're a mutant.
Speaker 1: But his superpower was blood did not rush to his head.
Speaker 1: It's just kicking upside down all day. That's a secondary mutation.
Speaker 1: He would just always be upside down like that that
Speaker 1: house when you know, like you're like, how are we
Speaker 1: gonna show that? This dude different that the animators that
Speaker 1: their go to. But one thing about McCoy that I
Speaker 1: thought was interesting was like, it is interesting how most
Speaker 1: of the smart characters are always like jump around dudes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like Captain America is supposed
Speaker 1: to be super smart, Child is supposed to be super smart. Definitely,
Speaker 1: there are they both are very super smart, but they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be. That's part of their power, that's part
Speaker 1: of your set. And uh, but there always are guys
Speaker 1: who have to jump around and dodge, like they almost
Speaker 1: never make a besides maybe at the Blue Marvel, which
Speaker 1: is a whole other conversation, But dudes that are smart
Speaker 1: and super powerful, you know, because even like Door is
Speaker 1: a dumbass, which is a charming thing about him, but
Speaker 1: no question, but he's not doing calculus. Yeah, he's definitely
Speaker 1: not doing that. That is funny where it is that
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, we can't have you be smart
Speaker 1: and buff, that's too much, right, So they kind of
Speaker 1: nerve your power is a little bit so like all
Speaker 1: the smart characters. Uh but yeah, I think that was
Speaker 1: interesting that they used a little bit of his science stuff,
Speaker 1: Like obviously there has to be some guy to fix
Speaker 1: the jet. The movies really put him on jet fixing duty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's you got the big, super strong blue guy. What
Speaker 1: are you doing he fixing the jet? Just the mechanic. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he spent like the most of the first season
Speaker 1: in prison because he was trying to destroy the government
Speaker 1: records for registered mutants and that That was funny because
Speaker 1: there was this cool blue dude and you didn't even
Speaker 1: get to see him in action like that because he
Speaker 1: was locked up. Yeah. Well, chapter in the cell, you
Speaker 1: can't do flips. That's the real tragedy. There's no room
Speaker 1: to flip in here. Well, here's a fun fact. Booza,
Speaker 1: who voiced Hank McCoy, actually appeared in the two thousand
Speaker 1: live action film playing a truck driver at the start
Speaker 1: of the film, so he got Yeah, he was able
Speaker 1: to come back like, yeah, what was good? So we
Speaker 1: got my boy, uh and soon that Ed does not
Speaker 1: care for gambit remy Lebou was by Chris Potter for
Speaker 1: ninety six and Tony Daniels. He can charge any object
Speaker 1: with explosive energy and just toss him. That's that's his power. Uh.
Speaker 1: They only explode once he lets go of the object.
Speaker 1: And he also wields the staff for close combat, which
Speaker 1: which and he used playing cards. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know why you would use cards like that. That feels
Speaker 1: like he's like took a magic class and I really
Speaker 1: gotta get my money's worth. Well, I was talking to Uh,
Speaker 1: I was talking to Aaron ram Powell who was on
Speaker 1: here the last time I was on here, and he
Speaker 1: was like, that's the type of thing you do when
Speaker 1: you're a jail. Yeah, that's a jail skill, throwing hats
Speaker 1: to the card over and overgain to the cards and
Speaker 1: a hat over and over again. And so yeah, that
Speaker 1: that seems And he was a thief, So there you go,
Speaker 1: Well that's that's He's also one of those characters that
Speaker 1: they never really explored like that because like for a while,
Speaker 1: like that was his thing. He would just throw these
Speaker 1: charge cards. He would throw these charge cards. You would
Speaker 1: never see him like walk up to someone in charge.
Speaker 1: Like he technically was a brutal he could he could
Speaker 1: walk up to someone charged them and blow them up,
Speaker 1: Like he could blow people up with his hands, but
Speaker 1: he chooses to throw these weak cards. He could be blastar,
Speaker 1: but he chooses to jump around. Yeah. But yeah, and
Speaker 1: I should have liked him because I love me to
Speaker 1: jump around character ter Spider Man, that was my man's.
Speaker 1: They do it, the jumping around. I even like McCoy
Speaker 1: a little bit, but just I just think he's jumping
Speaker 1: around his inferior. But but you know the bottom line
Speaker 1: is I should have liked him, but it just didn't
Speaker 1: get over on me and I think I'm just that
Speaker 1: little bit older than you to where they sold me
Speaker 1: Wolverine as the ultimate and they had like a uh
Speaker 1: danger room scene where where River with the Bow comes in,
Speaker 1: a Gambit comes in and challenges Wolverine too, like a
Speaker 1: fight and he smacks up Wolverine and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm out, I'm a little kid. Talk
Speaker 1: about check please. I checked that comic into a fan.
Speaker 1: I think it was into a fan like I'm good.
Speaker 1: What was cool too? About Chris Potter who was voicing him.
Speaker 1: He was actually filming Kung Fu the Legend of the
Speaker 1: Legend Continues in Toronto, and he was unfamiliar with the
Speaker 1: X Men, but David Carradine, who was a co star,
Speaker 1: was a big fan of the comics, so he was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I guess I'll do it if my man
Speaker 1: daves about it fun even funner facts, so we know
Speaker 1: he's an actor. He actually auditioned for the role of
Speaker 1: Cyclops and uh the year two thousand, which makes you
Speaker 1: wonder how different his career would be now if he
Speaker 1: actually nailed that role. You know, I don't it was
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to diss. I'm just saying I feel
Speaker 1: like that kind of sounds like a dis win. You
Speaker 1: say it, like, like how different joke rear b Now
Speaker 1: he's he's he's doing well. I didn't know he was
Speaker 1: also in Queer as Folk. I used to like love
Speaker 1: that show. I did I know that. Yeah, I watched
Speaker 1: it religiously because it was like my first like adult
Speaker 1: show when I was growing up, Like when was it out?
Speaker 1: From two thousands two thousand five, so yeah, my high
Speaker 1: school years. And I was like, okay, cool. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know, they showed boots, so that was like the
Speaker 1: other thing and I was like, okay, I'm in um.
Speaker 1: Now we get to your girl Jubilation Lee Come On,
Speaker 1: voiced by Allison Court. Come On, and she was the
Speaker 1: newest and youngest member of the X Man. Come On,
Speaker 1: and she's close to Wolverine. She's still getting your star powers,
Speaker 1: which are the ability to generate firework like explosions. Alison Court,
Speaker 1: Allison Court at Cathol Dodd had been neighbors when Court
Speaker 1: was still a child and dad was already known as
Speaker 1: an actor in Canada, and uh yeah. She attributes her
Speaker 1: character's chemistry to them, you know, being acquainted before. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know they say firework like explosions, but you never
Speaker 1: see it do any damage. Literally, anytime she uses it,
Speaker 1: someone is like like my eyes. In the Common Books,
Speaker 1: they did have one that they went to, like mattap
Speaker 1: or Or or Japan or something. By the way, if
Speaker 1: you don't know, Mattaport is a fictional like is it
Speaker 1: a country or it's like it's like a it's like
Speaker 1: a crime island in X Men, where you when when
Speaker 1: they're there, you're like, uh, we have to know good
Speaker 1: and Wolverine will be definitely involved. And so so basically
Speaker 1: some bad stuff happened with the Mandarin or some jazz
Speaker 1: they were trying to make like Jubilee into like a
Speaker 1: weird gay share or something like trying to weird mind
Speaker 1: transformer or something, and she spassed out and blew up
Speaker 1: the whole like villa that they were in with an
Speaker 1: immense show of power. But Chris claim Out was really
Speaker 1: good for that, like every fitty issues that somebody would
Speaker 1: do something way beyond the power my favorite person. Boy.
Speaker 1: I mean, you never like you never saw like they
Speaker 1: say fire work like explosions, but if you watch the show,
Speaker 1: they just look like fireworks period full stop. Hey man,
Speaker 1: let me throw a bunch of m A d s
Speaker 1: at your face. But they weren't popping like m A
Speaker 1: d s. They're popping like sparklers, where it's like a stop,
Speaker 1: get that out of my face. Like that's what it seems.
Speaker 1: She looked like she was mildly inconveniencing someone. I think
Speaker 1: it also it also comes with the fact that you're you're, you're.
Speaker 1: You got the dude who was exploding playing cards, you
Speaker 1: got someone controlling the weather, a guy with knives coming
Speaker 1: out of his fist, soone, a woman who could suck
Speaker 1: the life out of someone just by touching them, a
Speaker 1: guy shooting concussive blast out of his eyes, and what
Speaker 1: is she doing? Fireworks? And it had that cheesy sound.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I'm glad we plugged in.
Speaker 1: Um let's let's let me see if you can if
Speaker 1: we can get that, uh that that sound effect that
Speaker 1: would play when she did it. Someone did a compilation
Speaker 1: of all of Jubilee scenes, which what okay? So in
Speaker 1: that scene she blew up an arcade machine, the most
Speaker 1: damaged I've seen her done in history. All right, here's
Speaker 1: her versus a Sentinel. Perfect. Look, just listen to the
Speaker 1: sound and I'm gonna describe what happened. She's putting her
Speaker 1: hands up. Oh, hold on, we gotta just do the
Speaker 1: full breakdown. Also, this is what Julilie wore for somebodys.
Speaker 1: You wore a raincoat, some short shorts, some knee high boots,
Speaker 1: a neon shirt, and some Bret Hart glasses. That was
Speaker 1: the coolest thing about her is that for some reason
Speaker 1: she was rocking the Bret Hart glasses. Well, she was.
Speaker 1: She was definitely a product of the nineties. Let's just
Speaker 1: say that we were far enough long because I didn't
Speaker 1: say nothing for a long time, because, you know, as
Speaker 1: another person of color in this small, heavily white cast,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to drag her like this. But we
Speaker 1: were past this. We've we've we've you know, we've introduced
Speaker 1: so many better X men who are people of color.
Speaker 1: We the Hulk is Asian, I can finally dress. Do
Speaker 1: you believe for how trash she was and why they
Speaker 1: didn't make her powers better and anything, I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at you believe, I'm mad at the creators for this.
Speaker 1: So what just happened that sound was her fireworks that
Speaker 1: looked like fireworks, and actually in that scene, the sentinel
Speaker 1: just put his hands up and it did nothing. It
Speaker 1: just it was almost like the video was like, don't worry.
Speaker 1: This is to prove everyone right when they're dragging you believe.
Speaker 1: And then here's this scene. I actually do remember this,
Speaker 1: and I still don't get it till this day. It's
Speaker 1: been almost twenty years and I still don't get this.
Speaker 1: So she used her firework to just pop off metal
Speaker 1: because it was when you remember that scene where she's
Speaker 1: like captured and she's like, oh yeah, oh the inconsistencies.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean like there's gonna be some Jubilee
Speaker 1: gonna come from. I think they're like in one hundred.
Speaker 1: The last thing that I'm that I'm come for is
Speaker 1: this name Jubilation Lee. And then it's Jubilee. Like it's
Speaker 1: just like it's very obviously you came up with Jubilee first.
Speaker 1: And lucky for her, she doesn't get the worst name. Ever,
Speaker 1: that still goes to black Bolt whose real name do
Speaker 1: you know? Black Bolt real name? Just say it? Black Agar,
Speaker 1: What come on? This is this? That's when you can tell,
Speaker 1: oh you you were you came in early. Hey, what's up,
Speaker 1: Luca Dondegstein, what's up, Cyan Klops Smith. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: pretty that's pretty brutal. Okay, So we gotta get to
Speaker 1: the who I think are the almost King and Queen.
Speaker 1: The next person we're gonna talk about is literally so
Speaker 1: broken that they've killed her off for a year until
Speaker 1: they realize they can go back and introduced the younger
Speaker 1: version of herself and Rhett con from there. And that
Speaker 1: person is Jean Gray, who eventually became Phoenix, who was
Speaker 1: voiced by Katherine Disher. She's a telekinetic and a telepath.
Speaker 1: She's in a relationship with Cyclops, but and they marry
Speaker 1: at the end of the fourth season when she's captured
Speaker 1: by Apocalypse in a time space continuum, and Disher had
Speaker 1: originally audition for the part of Storm and didn't get it.
Speaker 1: Gene Um, Jean Gray is cool because you know, in
Speaker 1: every instance of Jean Graff seen, she's kind of been
Speaker 1: you know, they they've given like Storm and Cyclops like
Speaker 1: second in command, but really, and I call Cyclops the
Speaker 1: teacher's pet, but really Jeane is Professor X as star student.
Speaker 1: And I think it's because they kind of share the
Speaker 1: same power and he recognizes that she can. She she's
Speaker 1: that she's that woman. She can like do whatever. And
Speaker 1: he's like, you're gonna surpass me one day. Literallyy know,
Speaker 1: she was gonna be even crazier. Well, and I think
Speaker 1: what's interesting about her is she for all her teacher's petness,
Speaker 1: they they kind of have her be also a little
Speaker 1: bit rebellious because of the fact that, like there are
Speaker 1: other forces that are trying to give her tutelage that
Speaker 1: aren't Professor X. It seems like that's always happening in
Speaker 1: her or her clone when we'll get into that, but
Speaker 1: like when whenever she's in there, there's always something trying
Speaker 1: to whisper in her ear. And they show it as
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Force, like, come on, baby, you could be
Speaker 1: super powerful. You could rip up the planet. And he's
Speaker 1: just like, I'm just trying to teach you how to
Speaker 1: balance stuff, you know, and uh, make you guys not
Speaker 1: look for these droids. I'm just I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: teach her this stuff. But she's this Omega level thing
Speaker 1: that he has almost wrangle. Yeah, and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: close out with Professor X, who is you know, everyone
Speaker 1: knows him he's the dude in the wheelchair, Professor X
Speaker 1: Charles Xavier said, who was voiced by Cedric Smith, And
Speaker 1: he's the founder and the leader of the X Men,
Speaker 1: and a powerful tell of path and an analogy for
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King, which which you only understand when you
Speaker 1: meet Magneto, the allegory for Malcolm X. But throughout the
Speaker 1: series he fights for mutant rights while teaching his students
Speaker 1: the importance of never giving an a temptation or lose
Speaker 1: sight of what really matters, and to be patient and
Speaker 1: when when when when over the humans through respect of
Speaker 1: respectability politics, which you know you can be woken mad
Speaker 1: about it, but the fact that it never works in
Speaker 1: the history of X Men. You you can just be like, well,
Speaker 1: we know the X Men try to tell you don't work,
Speaker 1: to told you it don't work, Professor X all this time,
Speaker 1: but trying it don't work. Well, I mean, it's also
Speaker 1: just the whole the whole allegory. I'm not gonna get
Speaker 1: too heavy, but you know they'll kill you if you'll
Speaker 1: wear a suit too. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And that that's kind of his whole thing. He's so presentable,
Speaker 1: there's so many early X Men ad ventures where he
Speaker 1: like calls out the White House or the White House
Speaker 1: talk somebody says, yeah, I'm gonna send the next man.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do some stuff with the president is friendly
Speaker 1: with him and stuff. They kind of threw that out
Speaker 1: the window, like there was like Martin Luther King didn't
Speaker 1: have the presidents here. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: he still was. I mean, if you see the movie Selma,
Speaker 1: you'll see that they were on the phone back and forth.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there you go. Oh no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, I was just I was agreeing with you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I think that was one of
Speaker 1: the criticisms of Selma is that like he's like literally
Speaker 1: on the phone with like Lyndon B. Johnson and people
Speaker 1: like what yeah, because I, like I said, if that's
Speaker 1: beyond my knowledge that that that that all happened. But
Speaker 1: you know, the bottom line is he's the he's the
Speaker 1: good one, and even the good ones and get a
Speaker 1: bunch of violence sections and sitting those busting out your door.
Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't really pay to be a good
Speaker 1: one sometimes. And uh, and I think he finds that
Speaker 1: out over the course of time, which is why when
Speaker 1: when Cyclops becomes more Malcolm X later in the comic
Speaker 1: books especially, it's a weird friction. Yeah, we looked it up.
Speaker 1: We went and fact check. This is nerdificent, not woke efficent,
Speaker 1: so you're not gonna be but yeah, no, there's a
Speaker 1: photo op of lb J with Martin Luther King. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: AVA should have believed you don't dread me. I love you.
Speaker 1: I promise you i'd love you. But it's just I
Speaker 1: think it's a testament to our generation not believing anything
Speaker 1: nice like that could ever. Yeah, or and at least
Speaker 1: we didn't put it down as just a photoshop. You know.
Speaker 1: James Brown kicked it with Nixon too. I mean, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, it look has been a long week. We're
Speaker 1: going off the rails. I'm gonna talk about there. There's
Speaker 1: some favorite episodes, but there's one I really want to
Speaker 1: land on because I think we can talk about it
Speaker 1: and I can, like, I like, well, we'll say our
Speaker 1: favorite or most remembered episodes and then we'll close it
Speaker 1: out like that. But the one I want to just
Speaker 1: talk about because it's on this list that that comic
Speaker 1: book dot com put together as favorite episodes. But I
Speaker 1: want to talk about it from my perspective, and now
Speaker 1: that we gave you the low down, we can just
Speaker 1: talk a little more freely. Is the Night of the Sentinels.
Speaker 1: It was probably gonna be on everyone's lip. It was
Speaker 1: the pilot episode. And what happens in this episode is
Speaker 1: Professor X is they basically go to pick up Jubilee
Speaker 1: from her family because the Sentinels are on the loose
Speaker 1: and they're trying to get rid of mutants, and that's
Speaker 1: pretty much a running thing and X men as the
Speaker 1: Sentinels come out and they tear stuff up out at night,
Speaker 1: and it was it was like us a one pilot,
Speaker 1: because any pilot where you're adding someone new to something
Speaker 1: is just the perfect writing device because now you have
Speaker 1: to introduce all of these people to this one person,
Speaker 1: which in turn introduces the audience to all these people.
Speaker 1: But also you're getting the reality of everything at Steak,
Speaker 1: because not only is this new Parsons coming to the
Speaker 1: team and they're just introducing it, they're explaining to Jubilee's
Speaker 1: parents why she should go off with this weird man
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair and and like leave her family because
Speaker 1: she's not safe. She's at risk she started showing signs
Speaker 1: of mutant powers and and it's us kind of it's
Speaker 1: it's almost like a perfect pilot for a show like
Speaker 1: this too late. The groundwork of the world and what's
Speaker 1: what's at stake, who's on the team, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: if if you were going to check out an episode,
Speaker 1: I'd say check that out. They were giving it out.
Speaker 1: There was a deal on Pizza Hut when they were
Speaker 1: giving out X Men where they gave out a VHS
Speaker 1: with that. I wonder if it's still at my dad's house. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's that's excellent. And they I also think if we're
Speaker 1: going in episodes, um, the episode where they introduced Magneto,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it's really interesting to introduce to
Speaker 1: kids the concept of somebody who like hates people, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and and and just hates humans.
Speaker 1: Like the concept of like basically racism, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And his his racism, his being the hate
Speaker 1: that hate produced. Let's not getting twisted, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. His hate is the hate that hate produced.
Speaker 1: And to have little kids seeing that and knowing that
Speaker 1: that's a real thing, that was very interesting to me.
Speaker 1: Oh man, And we can talk a billion years about Magneto.
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is Magneto in the series was
Speaker 1: very much like he is in the comic books. There's
Speaker 1: always that relationship with with Xavier. There's the Martin Luther
Speaker 1: King Malcolm X aspect, but there's also just the only thing,
Speaker 1: the only thing I'll have a beef with it with
Speaker 1: x Men at all is the expediency and the brutality
Speaker 1: that Magneto is almost always willing to work with. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that that was Malcolm X at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, you see died a man of peace, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, So that that part was a
Speaker 1: little bit like you know. But but of course calling
Speaker 1: him the mutant Honorable Elijah Mohammed, it doesn't quite sell.
Speaker 1: You know. That's a little bit too much of a
Speaker 1: deep cut, you know, like like Rod because he's half
Speaker 1: a man Age plus seven. Anyway, anyway, we're gonna get that.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the bottom line is Magneto in the series
Speaker 1: was very cool, and they they did end up touching
Speaker 1: on iconic storylines like like the Phoenix saga, which we
Speaker 1: touched on earlier, uh and even Days of the Future past.
Speaker 1: They had they had like a bishop playing that like
Speaker 1: Kitty Pride from the movie and Kitty Pride, uh, Wolverine
Speaker 1: from the movie Kitty Pride from the actual comic books.
Speaker 1: They transpose those characters have just made it into a
Speaker 1: Bishop who comes back to kind of tell the X man,
Speaker 1: hey man, you're messing up. Look at this him on
Speaker 1: my face dog things yeah, things with horrible which I love. Bishop.
Speaker 1: Bishop was typed because he had a perm bandanna and
Speaker 1: a big gun, and I was all about it. I
Speaker 1: was like, I've I've been waiting for that cosplay. I
Speaker 1: need to do a Bishop all this time. I have
Speaker 1: a challenge for you. Look up the Joe Jessico uh
Speaker 1: and people at home. Look at the Joe Jessico Marvel
Speaker 1: card series pictures of Bishop. I want you to coshplay
Speaker 1: as that Bishop, not Will's Portatio, Scratchy Lion Bishop, not that,
Speaker 1: not the one that Larry Stroman drew in a limited series,
Speaker 1: not any of that stuff. That particular tight pants Joe Jessico,
Speaker 1: muscle muscle bound, uh. Bishop. I challenge you to cosplays.
Speaker 1: We're talking about this one right here. Uh yeah, but
Speaker 1: like the more painted ones. But yeah, yeah, but like
Speaker 1: that style though we got you got the bandana on
Speaker 1: and everything. Yeah, oh yeah, that's the you know, that's
Speaker 1: the one I was trying to do. Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: you look like a prince and controversy like the barge.
Speaker 1: He looked like he looked like the barge from the future.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, geez, Louise, okay, um, look, we
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. It's been fun. We've been
Speaker 1: going for a long time, but we've been having fun.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed it. Uh, you know, I hope
Speaker 1: all the fernis aren't too hot that you know, Danny
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to make it, but she'll be back soon.
Speaker 1: Until then, we'll have our friend ed hang out. How
Speaker 1: does that sound? But yeah, where can people find you? Ed?
Speaker 1: Oh at Edgar Destroys on Twitter and at Edgar Destroys
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I do lots of art and stuff on
Speaker 1: Instagram that I'd love for people to like and on
Speaker 1: And they can check me out at my nerd go
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