1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Good by book a podcast playground. Welcome to taking a walk. 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: Here's buzz night. 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Well, Emily Kavanaugh, it's so nice to be taking a 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: walk with you in New York. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: City and with you. Thank you so much for having 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: me on. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: You have an amazing story. First, let's talk about your 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: singer songwriter career. When did you know you were first 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: booked on music? 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Well, you know, my grandma was a singer. 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 3: So I grew up on the South Side of Chicago, 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: fifty seven first cousins, very close knit community, you know, 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: growing up it was kind of everything was about community 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 3: and togetherness. So any chance for a family party, we 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: took one. Any chance for you know, a sing. 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: Song, we had one, very. 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: Big, very Irish, very American, just all together all the time. 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: And I think I learned from an early age that 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: if you. 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 3: Could tell a story or make someone laugh, life was good. 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: So that sort of encouraged I guess that piece of me. 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: And who were the musicians that influenced you at an 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 2: early age. 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: So Mom listened a lot to CS and Y, a 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: lot of Joni Mitchell, a lot of Joe Bias, Carol King. 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: My dad was more of the John Denver, Nat King 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: Cole Louis Armstrong Variety, and those were the records that 28 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: really played in. 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Our house. 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: In Chicago, really known for lots of different music and styles. 31 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: So did you get out and see shows there? 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I did? I did. My first show I was seventeen. 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Was It's actually Bob Dylan. 34 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: And I think that that that has stayed with me 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: all these years later, like he's still probably I would 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: credit as one of my biggest influences. 37 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: What was the venue? Do you know what? I want 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: to say? Ravinia? Does that feel right? 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I don't know any venues in Chicago. 40 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: It might have even been Northwestern put on some big event. 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: But I was just touched that my parents let me 42 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: out for the night and proud that the first that 43 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: the first show I ever saw live with Dylan. 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: Have you checked out the Philosophy of Modern Song the 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: Bob Dylan Book? 46 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: No, And everyone always asks me that, oh, you have to. 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: You totally have to. It's you know it is. You 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: may not recognize a lot of a lot of the music, 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: but you will definitely recognize his voice as he analyzes 50 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: the song. Yeah, and you recognize some of them too. 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: We're in the studio right now actually recording a version 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: of a Girl from the North Country, which is one 53 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: of my most favorites of all of his songs. 54 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, do you recall when he jumped out 55 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: on stage if it was one of his better nights 56 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: of performance, because he's known for he could be up 57 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: and down and he could get away with it because 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: he's Bob. 59 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: You know. 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 3: I think when you love an artist so much, there's 61 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: almost like blinders on, like I love him in an 62 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: unconditional way of to me, it's always Dylan, and so 63 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: it's always good and there's always something to take away 64 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: from it. 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: So I do remember a little bit of a of 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: a magic to seeing him that young. 67 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: I have to share. I just recently discovered this amazing 68 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: performance with Dylan and Susan Tedesky that if you could, 69 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: if you could find this, it's Susan at a very 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: young age and Bob clearly blown away by her brilliance. Yeah, 71 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: it's like magical. 72 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: I would love to check that out. 73 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what are the shows do you 74 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: remember seeing in Chicago that really made an impact. 75 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: Well, you know, as a little girl, I listened a 76 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: lot to folk music. 77 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: I also was really taken by jazz. My grandma was 78 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: a jazz singer, and so all the songs in the 79 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: thirties forties. 80 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 3: When I was little, we would hear Judy Garland. I 81 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: have a memory of It's almost a little embarrassing that 82 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: my grand sounded so much like her that I remember 83 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: hearing an old recording of Judy and thinking it was 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: my grandma. There was just such a similarity in the sound, 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: you know, so that played into my earliest influences. 86 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: I loved Joni Mitchell, I. 87 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: Loved Joe Bias, I loved Jefferson Airplane. 88 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: I loved a lot of music that came long before 89 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: I was even born. 90 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: Did you look at I think more modern influences, Like 91 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: I was really into Sound Garden. I loved Eddy Better, 92 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: I loved all of the you know, the folk scene, 93 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: the rock scene. 94 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: Not much of that turns up in my music, but 95 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: it's a lot of what I listened to. 96 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: Has anybody told you that you have a little resemblance 97 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: to Joni Mitchell? 98 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: I feel like that's too large a compliment, but you're 99 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: awfully kind. 100 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: That means they have right. I'm a huge fan. I'm 101 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: a huge fan. 102 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: And how magical is it that she's you know, out 103 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: and about more. 104 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's so many young artists are bringing such 105 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: attention to her, like Brandy Carlisle has done. Not wonders 106 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: for Jonie's career. Jonie's career is already so big, but 107 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: I think really putting a spotlight back on how brilliant 108 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: she was and what she's done for so many people 109 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: who've come back to her. 110 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, I agree. So how did you end 111 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: up in New York City? 112 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: Cue the Siren? 113 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: I since I was a little girl, wanted to move 114 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: to New York. Yeah, And it's funny because I knew 115 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: I wanted to sing, and I knew I wanted to 116 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: do something to kind of be in the world helping, 117 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: you know. 118 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: I never felt responsible enough to be a teacher. 119 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 3: I never really saw myself as someone who could plan 120 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: a lesson or you know, do something like that. But 121 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: I felt very comfortable at what has become the intersection 122 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: of music and service. Right. So I loved singing for 123 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: kids who are coming out of homelessness, like I loved 124 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: working with people who were. 125 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: In certain situations in their lives where maybe. 126 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: You know, they were down on their luck, but like 127 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: through writing a song, they could talk about it in 128 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 3: ways that I think sometimes other forms of say therapy 129 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: or you know, are useful, but not perhaps as free and. 130 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: So, as a you know, sort of a free spirit. 131 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: Myself, I just felt like that was the way that 132 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: I could bring those two together. 133 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: So as a very little girl, I wanted to come 134 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: here and sing. 135 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: And I am so lucky that it's all these years later, 136 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: it's eighteen years later, and that's what I'm doing. 137 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: But then you stumbled into something pretty amazing called a 138 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: song for you. I wouldn't say stumble, but no, that's right. 139 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: I have been of serendipitistness to it. So talk to 140 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: the audience about how that happened. 141 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was entirely unplanned. I mean, had there 142 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: not been a pandemic, I don't know that I would 143 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: have thought to start something like this right in the 144 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: middle of this global epidemic. I'm sitting watching Netflix, eating 145 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: all my feelings. 146 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: You're in Chicago, binging Shit's Creek. 147 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: Oh you're here though. 148 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: I was here in New York. 149 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: But when right when everything hit, I did go home 150 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: to be with my family for three months, and so 151 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: that was one of the very few silver lightings was 152 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: I got to be there, you know, with my dad 153 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: on his seventieth birthday, and go for walks with my mom, 154 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: and be with my brothers and sister, and you know, 155 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: and I just I remember sitting watching, like all of us, 156 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: the stories every day of what was happening in the world, 157 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: and thinking, is there any way I can help, you know, 158 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: And honestly, the answer is a singer songwriter in a 159 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: global pandemic is probably going to almost always be no. 160 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: You know, my skill set is fairly limited. But I 161 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: knew I could. 162 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,479 Speaker 3: Write a song, and I knew that in the communities 163 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: that I travel in, so can most of the other 164 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: people that I'm friends with, you know. And so I 165 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 3: just started thinking, well, what if there was a way 166 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: that we could start telling the stories of the people 167 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: who are in these rooms where their families can't reach them. 168 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: And so even if it was just to send a. 169 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: Song to offer a little comfort or bring a little 170 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: piece to people on behalf of their families, that was 171 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: where the idea was born from. You know, I think 172 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: for everyone there's something that stood out in the pandemic 173 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: that like they just couldn't wrap their head around, be 174 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: it loss or the sense of time, or this feeling 175 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: stuck inside or whatever it was for each person, you know, 176 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 3: but for me, it was just this idea that people were, 177 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 3: you know, essentially dying in rooms where no one could 178 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: be with them and hold their hand. And so I 179 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: did this really low fi, low budget, honestly low quality 180 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: recording of I Want to Hold Your Hand. And I 181 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: started just cold calling hospitals and hospices and saying, you know, 182 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: do you have a patient that might need a song? 183 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: And initially the answer was, you know. 184 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: We're up to our eyeballs, like, we're very limited bandwidth. 185 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: There's not much that we can do even if we 186 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: love this idea. 187 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: But in you know, three to six months time, I 188 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: started getting called back social workers, volunteer coordinators, chaplains. 189 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: We have a nurse that would love a song. She's 190 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: in isolation. 191 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: We have a family member that just can't reach their 192 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: person that they want to send them something to say 193 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: I love you. Can you write it? You know, can 194 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: you send it? And so what began is let's just 195 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: send a few songs turned into let's write and record 196 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: personalized songs based on the stories of the patients in 197 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: the rooms. 198 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: And this was all over the country or well. 199 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: Initially, honestly, it was just it was really Chicago and 200 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: New York, Okay. Then it was California that you know 201 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: that called back. Then it grew from you know, we 202 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: wrote We probably wrote maybe five songs in the beginning 203 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: to over two hundred in the course of eighteen months time, 204 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 3: even writing for staffs, you know, staffs as small a 205 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: staff as small as fifty healthcare workers to three hundred 206 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: healthcare workers to fifteen thousand healthcare workers in a system 207 00:10:59,160 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: in Idaho. 208 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: At first, were you. 209 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: Ever at a point you were Were you discouraged that 210 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: you weren't hearing back from people. 211 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: No, I never felt discouraged because I recognized the moment, 212 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: you know, I mean the world was shut. 213 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: To help right like this. This wasn't something that I 214 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: was hoping. 215 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: That I ever even thought would have the spotlight on 216 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 3: it that has has come to be. It was really 217 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: just something to do in a time when as an artist, 218 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: you know, venues were dark, work was. 219 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Scarce, sounds were plentiful. 220 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: People d that I loved and that I knew, uh 221 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: were stuck at home. I mean that for all of us, right, 222 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: and so it was more like it was it was 223 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: almost more of a surprise, to be. 224 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: Honest, when people reached back out and said we could 225 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: use this. It surprises me to this day that it's 226 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: grown into what it has. 227 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: So, how did the charity then you become a full 228 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: five oh one. 229 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: Well, so we're still pending the five oho one. We're 230 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: still we're still a little ways away from that. But 231 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: the kindness of the community, you know, the kindness of 232 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: the press, the kindness of the healthcare workers, the kindness 233 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 3: of the people that were sharing their stories with us 234 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: and then sharing our story on behalf of what we 235 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: were doing, you know, So the writers of People magazine 236 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: and Upworthy and Medium and ABC, and it was just 237 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: really such a generous response, that kind of serendipitous. Serendipitously 238 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: a man that I had met in a copy shop 239 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: years before, who I had struck up uh conversation and 240 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: then what turned into a friendship with He and his 241 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 3: wife were this amazing couple, and he was this great businessman, 242 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: she was this wonderful ballerina. 243 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: She was always encouraging him to do a bit of philanthropy. 244 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: We became friendly, the three of us. 245 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: She encouraged me to keep at the service side of 246 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: my work for my life, but to really cultivate that 247 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: through the arts. 248 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: She ended up passing away. 249 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: Not long after this had started, and her husband reached 250 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: out to me and said, you know, I love this 251 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: work that you're doing. I want to be a part 252 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 3: of it. Charlene, his late wife would have loved to 253 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: be a part of it too. And the irony Charlene 254 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: when she passed. She ended up passing in a hospice 255 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: that we were already writing for here in New York City, 256 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: and so it was really just a full circle moment, 257 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: and he said, you know, I wanna I believe in 258 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: this and I want to help you. Uh. And that 259 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: seed money that he donated got us started as a nonprofit, 260 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: and so we went from this tiny little initiative to 261 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: still a very tiny but organization here in New York 262 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: that now writes for patients and families in hospice and 263 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: hospital across the country. 264 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: But you're also, uh, it's just you and then other 265 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: people who volunteer to write and record the music. 266 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 267 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: The kindness of all of the volunteer artists, the local 268 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 3: to Grammy nominee to Grammy Award winning songwriters who have 269 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: all shared a song of their's either on behalf of 270 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: our initiative or on behalf of the family that really 271 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: needed a song. 272 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: Talk about some of those folks. 273 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: Sure, oh my goodness, I mean, I don't even know 274 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: where to start there. So I could talk about what 275 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: I would call my first co writer. And so my 276 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: first co writer is a sixteen year old girl in 277 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: Arizona who sent me a song request on behalf of 278 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: her dad, who ended up passing away shortly after he 279 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: received a song. 280 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: But she basically shared, you know, she wasn't very close 281 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: to him growing up. She didn't know much about him. 282 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: She was a little angry with him because he had 283 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: left her and her mom. And it really wasn't until 284 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: she discovered how she loved music that she reconnected with 285 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: her dad cause it. 286 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: Was the one thing they could bond over. 287 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: And so, you know, I sent on the intake to 288 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: our social worker out west, shout out to Lisa, cause 289 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: she's a star. And Lisa passed on that this you 290 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: know questionnaire to this wonderful girl, and she just wrote pages. 291 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: You know, some people will won't full right back. 292 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: I I want a song from my mom. She loves 293 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: country music and and that's okay. That's all that they 294 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: want to share. But this girl just wrote a novel 295 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: and essentially the sentiment she wanted conveyed was, no matter 296 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: what has happened, no matter what our relationship like, after 297 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: you're gone, I'll go on singing your name. 298 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: And that ended up being the title of the song. 299 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: And I feel like it almost speaks the best to 300 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: our mission, because it's this idea that even after someone 301 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: has left UH, their legacy can still live on through 302 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: a song. So I mean, I s from someone I 303 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: you know, like Kayla, to you know, friends of mine 304 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: over in Ireland who have won all sorts of awards 305 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: and were kind enough to to send songs to family 306 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: and friends back in Chicago. 307 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: To local musicians here in New York. 308 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: To Grammy Award winner Jesse Harris, who wrote all of 309 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: the songs that won Nora Jones the Grammy's Sasha Allen, 310 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: who you know sings backing vocals for the Rolling Stones 311 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: and took. 312 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: Time out of her out of her life to to 313 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: send a song you know. Uh. Sophie B. 314 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: Hawkins, who wrote my favorite song when I was sixteen 315 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: as I laid me down to sleep, sent a song 316 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: to a patient out West with a personalized me shout 317 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: out to say, you knows this. 318 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: Song is for you. 319 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: Amazing. 320 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the response from I mean everyone has said yes. 321 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: That's what's blown my mind, Like in such a dark 322 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: time in the world, that there was the lightness of 323 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: these amazing people who've just said, sure, I'll send a song, 324 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: I'll write a song, I'll share this mission with my community. 325 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: That is what always keeps me going. 326 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: Somebody who observes this process and understands music. What's the 327 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: impact of music to these family members, to these individuals 328 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: talk about the healing force of music. 329 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so interesting. I could talk about that 330 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: one for hours. How long is your podcast? As long 331 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: as as long as. 332 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 3: This walk I can speak to it personally, and then 333 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: I can speak to it, you know, on the collective. 334 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 3: I think in a time like the one that we 335 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: were living in, everyone just needed to feel some sort 336 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: of connection. And I personally don't know of a better 337 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 3: connector than music. I think it's universal. I think it 338 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 3: goes beyond borders. I think it goes beyond race, it 339 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: goes beyond age, it goes beyond you know. It connected 340 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 3: Kayla to her dad, who for a very long time 341 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: she had no relationship with right So on the personal 342 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 3: knowing how much of an impact it's had in my 343 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 3: life and how much besides my family and my friends, 344 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: it has been the constant source of joy. I think 345 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: it's really incredible that for so many other people in 346 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: such a dark time, that was. 347 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: The thing they were turning to. 348 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: Right, Like, people went on live streams, record sales went 349 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: up in terms of people bought old record players and 350 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: they were listening to the songs of their childhood. It 351 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: was like having a friend in a room with you 352 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: when you couldn't be in a room with your friend, 353 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 3: or it was like having a meal that you love, 354 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 3: you know, listening to these old songs from when you 355 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: were growing up. So I guess in a way, I've 356 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: always found that music is sort of that bridge between 357 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: people who might not otherwise have a connection. 358 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: And then if you already have that connection but. 359 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: You just can't be in the rooms with the people 360 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: you love, like it's all the more powerful. 361 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: So I think that's what we found. 362 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 3: Like even now people will say to me, well, will 363 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: you ever do like a live performance, or do you 364 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: go into the hospitals, or I don't understand the process like, 365 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 3: are you like musicians on call or music therapists, and 366 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 3: we're you know, all those places I so admire and revere. 367 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: But why we're a. 368 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 3: Little bit unique and we're not doing anything that no 369 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: one's done before. But where we are unique is that 370 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: this was born in a time when no one could 371 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: be in the room with each other, which for me 372 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: has always been what music is. So this was a 373 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 3: way to sort of almost recreate the sense of being 374 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: with the people you love when you couldn't be. So 375 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 3: now that we have the opportunity to be live again 376 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: or go into a room as I almost don't want 377 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: us to because it was born in this time that 378 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 3: I want to still honor. And I love this idea 379 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: that you can have or record it. You can have 380 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 3: an MP three. It's tangible, you can hold onto it. 381 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 3: So families will reach out to me now and say, 382 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: you know, I still listen to that song, like it 383 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: still plays in my playlist. Like we wrote a song 384 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: for a woman who wanted to marry the love of 385 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: her life on Valentine's Day, and she knew she didn't 386 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: have much time left, and so he wrote out a 387 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: whole intake and explained all the reasons he loved her 388 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: and all the things that were amazing about her, And 389 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: they ended up getting married in California under this large 390 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: tree with friends of theirs around, and they danced to 391 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: the song that we wrote for her as their first dance, 392 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 3: you know, And so he still gets to play that 393 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 3: song even though you know she's no longer with us. 394 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: So when you've first, you know, became attracted to music, 395 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: could you have ever imagined that you got so close 396 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: to it as like a healing force. 397 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: No, never in a million years. 398 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: I was living for a long time at the intersection 399 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: of working in both service and music, and so I 400 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: just feel so lucky that in this intersection, this is 401 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: sort of everything that I've been doing for a long time, 402 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: but it feels much more intentional. 403 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: So if musicians listening to this want to help, how 404 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 2: do they participate in. 405 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: The song for you, well, we would love that. 406 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: I mean, in this moment, I'll be honest and say, 407 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: I think our demand for songs since has grown past 408 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 3: our resources. So you know, when you're doing something for 409 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: free for a long time, you get to a moment 410 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: where you have to make a decision. And while we 411 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: still want to maintain our mission of providing free services 412 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: to families for as long as we can. We also 413 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: want to be able to pay our artists and our 414 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: musicians and our studios and and you know, be an 415 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 3: artist based organization that also does good bye the artists. 416 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: Right, So I always put out. 417 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: There like we're still doing these songs primarily for free. 418 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: So if there are artists that are in a position 419 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: where they can donate a song, we would be so grateful. 420 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: And if there are artists that just want to spread 421 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 3: it to their community or share it with their people 422 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: to get even more eyes and ears on it, that 423 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: would be amazing. We're we're also looking for uh, people 424 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 3: in development, people in fundraising, people who have that part 425 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 3: of the brain that you can imagine as an artist. 426 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: Isn't my strong suit, right, So. 427 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 3: I can write the songs, and I love sitting with people, 428 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: and I love that element of connecting with folks and 429 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: connecting folks. 430 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: But in terms of how we're going to fundraise, how. 431 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 3: We're going to make this a sustainable mission, that's where 432 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: we could definitely use. 433 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: Other people company and of all genres of music absolutely 434 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: anywhere anywhere globally globally. 435 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: Because we do have a global audience. Well, hello, taken 436 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: a walk. It's right, take a walk to New York 437 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: and write a song. Yeap, So they can get a 438 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: hold of you. 439 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: How so they can reach me at Emily kavan on 440 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: music at Gmail. 441 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: They can find me on all the socials. 442 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: Again, that's just Emily Kavanaugh Music on Instagram or Facebook, 443 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: Emily Kevin on Spotify and our website. 444 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to our great designers. 445 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: Is here is a song for you dot. 446 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 2: Org and I personally will attest to Emily Kavanaugh Music 447 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: on Spotify with an amazing version in particular of fly 448 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: Me to the Moon. 449 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: Oh You're so kind, which is just wonderful. Do you 450 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: want to know something funny about that? 451 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 3: I used to sing in a little piano bar in 452 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 3: Chicago when I was saving up to come to New 453 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 3: York called fly Me to the Moon, and it was 454 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: one of my favorite memories in music. Gregory ran the show. 455 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: He was a blast, He was such a character. We 456 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 3: had so many fun nights there, and all these years 457 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: later I went back to check in and just to 458 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 3: say hello and to see you know my people, and 459 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: fly Me to the Moon is now called Wrigleyville Wieners. 460 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: She's I like fly me to the moon there for sure. 461 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 2: Wow. So where would we be without music? 462 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: Oh? 463 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: Man, I can't imagine, Like, I can't imagine my life 464 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 3: without it. 465 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's like. 466 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: It sounds dramatic, it's like breathing, but it's such a 467 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: basic part of life, Like it is such a. 468 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: Primal every day. 469 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: I mean even just in the sounds of that we 470 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: can hear in the back here, uh background, and the 471 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: city cars and the buses and the some are less 472 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: melodic than others, but uh yeah, I mean I can't 473 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 3: imagine a life without music. 474 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: I think it would be it wouldn't be half as joyful. 475 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: Well, if you're doing amazing work, Uh, it's it's stunning 476 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: what you're doing. And uh, anybody who can reach out 477 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: to you should uh donate. Also they can donate the 478 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 2: the the green right. 479 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: That would be incredible. 480 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: How do they do that? 481 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: That is a good question. 482 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: So no, we are in the process of setting up 483 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: if you go to our website, there's a place where 484 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: you're able to send on more about that. 485 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: Alright, Well, so great to have you on. 486 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: Taken a walk in so nice to take a walk 487 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: with You, thank You, Lolloid, thank You. 488 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: Taking a Walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 489 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts.