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Speaker 1: Good morning sworld, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Wednesday, December tenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeets, back in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 1: star ratings and reviews. On today's show, we're gonna fill

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Speaker 1: up some slop buckets thanks to Shams and his inside

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Speaker 1: pass great timing Chams. But first, we're halfway to Vegas,

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Speaker 1: so let's recap those two East NBA Cup games last night. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they were respected. God we respected. We're hell out of

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Speaker 1: the Cup. I'm doing a live chat on substack. You're

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Speaker 1: on playback this bouncing between the two. I think crazy.

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Speaker 3: I watched the Cup at my kid's band performance.

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Speaker 1: That's respect, that's respect, respect, duns Hot Cross Buns.

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Speaker 4: I literally, Penny, that's funny you said that because I

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Speaker 4: literally pulled out a recorder while I was watching a

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Speaker 4: game yesterday while I was doing playback and somebody said

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Speaker 4: drop a hot crossbox and I said, I did.

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Speaker 2: That a couple days. We're not gonna do it right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, we respected the Cup? Did the Cup respect us? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the question we're going to break down here today.

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Speaker 3: Respects.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good. Let's start with the first game last night.

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Speaker 1: Desmond Bane thirty seven points, carrying the Magic past the

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Speaker 1: Heat into the NBA Cup semifinals, so they are headed

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Speaker 1: to Vegas. Great start for Miami. I came out gangbusters

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Speaker 1: and jumpers, splashing threes. Tyler Hero had the euro and one.

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Speaker 1: I think they started seven for seven from the floor.

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Speaker 1: Defense was just as dominant. They're up big at the

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Speaker 1: end of the quarter, and then the second quarter happens,

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Speaker 1: and that's when I thought Suggs and Anthony Black defensively

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Speaker 1: started making plays. And then it was really Bane with

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Speaker 1: Sugs carrying the offense. And they're up at the half

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Speaker 1: when they go into the locker room, and then it

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Speaker 1: was just more Bane in the third quarter. What a

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Speaker 1: monster game from this guy.

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Speaker 2: He was fantastic.

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Speaker 4: It is odd to say that everybody respecting the NBA

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Speaker 4: Cup when the Atlanta Magic literally came out there and

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Speaker 4: just allowed Miami.

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Speaker 2: To take practice shots. Yeah, they're up fifteen to nothing.

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Speaker 4: This is a home game for them, you'd expect them

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Speaker 4: to come out and play harder.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, maybe it was too early, and

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Speaker 2: maybe at that's six PM, it was early. It felt

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Speaker 2: like a playoff game.

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Speaker 4: After a while, when they got back into it, those

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Speaker 4: fans were into it, so it was super fun.

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Speaker 2: It was Yeah, that that second.

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Speaker 4: Unit coming in and in the second quarter really playing

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Speaker 4: hard defensively. But these DEAs been Bay games, they'd come

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Speaker 4: out of nowhere. This guy's averaging nineteen points per game

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Speaker 4: this season. It's odd to think that when he's got

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Speaker 4: these monsters thirty seven point game. He's only had three

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Speaker 4: thirty point games this season. They've all been thirty seven

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Speaker 4: points each and every time he's had a hat trick

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Speaker 4: of thirty seven point performances. The best thirty seven point

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Speaker 4: player since Dave Steve. I'd say there's no number thirty

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Speaker 4: seven out there, just in terms of number thirty sevens.

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Speaker 2: Is there another good one? Met a world piece?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the good good call. Yeah, with adjustment, the Lakers

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Speaker 4: only worth thirty seven. Then Derek Fisher it's Dave, Steve

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Speaker 4: keithrn Hands was all right too.

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Speaker 2: But Desmond Bain.

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Speaker 4: Those makes in the fourth quarter specifically were great.

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Speaker 2: The fifteen point fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: And we're going to start talking about Pala Boncaro and

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Speaker 4: how he's adapting to this post Franz Wagner era. But

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Speaker 4: I thought the first possession, when they come out of

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, it's up to Boncaro to get into

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Speaker 4: that zone a little bit. He finds Bain for a

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Speaker 4: three splash, then a fast break from Bain, then Goga

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Speaker 4: falling in the middle of the key. His butt is

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Speaker 4: on the floor with four heat around him. He throws

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Speaker 4: it to Bane for another three. That's one heat problem.

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Speaker 4: I think in this game, they're just collapsing way too much.

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Speaker 4: And then the off ball pick from Goga, who's so

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Speaker 4: good Wiggy behind Desmond band gets downhill and then he

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Speaker 4: drove into Hero and took him there. He had five

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Speaker 4: three or five makes, I should say, three free throws

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Speaker 4: in that quarter. I don't know where these Desmond ban

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Speaker 4: performances come from. But he was feeling. He was feeling

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Speaker 4: the cup. He said, it's huge, it's exciting and gives

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Speaker 4: us a great opportunity to play some meaningful basketball early

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Speaker 1: And he wants to win back some of that money

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Speaker 1: that he just had to give over to the NBA.

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Speaker 1: That's five thousand dollars fine for binging og off the head.

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Speaker 2: Even if you lost yesterday, you get fifty k.

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Speaker 1: That's true, he had a cover.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot. He's a quarterfinal loose. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was just cool to see them as they did

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Speaker 4: as a team. You know, we miss Franz, but they

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Speaker 4: did do it as a team. Here comes fricking Sougs

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Speaker 4: in that motor. Here comes Anthony Black.

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Speaker 1: Please call him Tony Orlando.

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Speaker 2: I wrote that.

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Speaker 1: Million lines last night.

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Speaker 2: He keeps it up, they'll call him.

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Speaker 3: Well, they won't.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's the NBA company, got Eric Collins, but

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Speaker 4: Tony Orlando. Come on, come on?

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Speaker 2: What do you think of this?

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Speaker 3: One weird game? Is what I think? Like you said,

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Speaker 3: he didn't miss for the first three and a half minutes,

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Speaker 3: so I when you think about it, twenty five punt blowout,

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Speaker 3: twenty five point blowout. Yeah for the Orlando Magic in

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Speaker 3: the last forty five minutes. And basically what's happened with

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Speaker 3: Desmond Baine is that the Magic have realized this guy

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Speaker 3: loves a pitch back. They set a screen for him.

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Speaker 3: If he's not open coming around for a wide open three,

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Speaker 3: he just tosses it to the big guy and then

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Speaker 3: goes to the other side of the pick and they

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Speaker 3: flip it right back to him. He's got pretty good

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Speaker 3: chemistry on that right now. With Wendell Carter Junior and

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Speaker 3: with Goga, who I thought both played really solid basketball

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Speaker 3: last night. I also liked that Eric Collins mentioned Bain

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Speaker 3: tied the franchise record for points in an NBA Cup game. Cool,

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Speaker 3: you know who held the previous record. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: being oh yeah, I heard you said it again, but

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Speaker 3: the way he does the pitchback reminds me of Bam

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Speaker 3: out of Bio and Duncan Robinson. Actually, when Duncan was

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Speaker 3: on the heat, that was a way he got a

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Speaker 3: lot of shots. It gives the guard in this scenario,

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Speaker 3: either Duncan or Bain, it gives them a three point shot,

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Speaker 3: I thought in general, Carter and Goga outplayed the Miami Bigs.

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Speaker 3: Bam had a really good game. He was doing everything

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Speaker 3: for Miami, but he was completely negated by what Wendell

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Speaker 3: Carter Junior and Goga did fourteen and ten with three

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Speaker 3: assists and a block for Carter and then Goga had

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Speaker 3: the one assist off the booty and then seven points,

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Speaker 1: Two blocks.

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Speaker 3: They were a force inside, both of them, completely shutting

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Speaker 3: factor I thought was perfect. This was an encouraging game

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Speaker 3: if you were watching to see how he's going to

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Speaker 3: fit along side the Magic after they've figured out how

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Speaker 3: to play together. There was a bunch of hero ball possessions,

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Speaker 3: was when he had a nasty mismatch and he could

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Speaker 3: go to work. Otherwise, he was happy to play off

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Speaker 3: the ball or move the ball. He was getting in

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Speaker 3: on the pitchback game to Desmond Bain as well. This

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Speaker 3: was pretty solid, I thought from Polo.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't dribble the snot out of the ball.

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Speaker 4: He actually was adapting. He made some great passes when

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Speaker 2: Three that was real, real suite.

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Speaker 4: Then he had another one to find sugs in the

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Speaker 4: looked like, okay, he's going to take one of those

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Speaker 4: sugs in the corner. Now, his finishing could have been better.

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Speaker 4: In the first quarter, he missed every freaking shot he

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Speaker 2: He wasn't there. He missed.

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Speaker 4: Also miss Bain when he was wide open on a baseline,

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Speaker 4: didn't go to him. But he was playing the right

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Speaker 4: way and the passes were there, and he's just adapting.

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Speaker 4: He is in that Orlando Magic mode. We're all playing

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Speaker 4: and Goga as the pick bros. I mean, they just

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Speaker 4: set so many picks and create so much space. They're

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Speaker 1: The Magic are a bad matchup for the Heat because

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Speaker 1: the Heat want to play iso ball and they want

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Speaker 1: to get quick shots up in like the first six

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Speaker 1: or six or seven seconds. Okay, sure as they come down,

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Speaker 1: and you can do that against a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: because there's usually a bad defender or two, but Magic

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Speaker 1: you could pick on Tyus Jones if you want to,

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe DeSilva a little bit, but these guys

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Speaker 1: Suggs is awesome. All these bigs that you guys are

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Speaker 1: these shots after that red hot start, it was like

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Speaker 1: I mean, they attack, that's what they do, and they've

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Speaker 1: done all season in the heat and that offense. But

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of Davian Mitchell floaters and Tyler Hero

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Speaker 1: floaters because they attack early. But I thought they were

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Speaker 1: doing pretty good jobs stay in front of them. And

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Speaker 1: to his zone. They went to his own defense, especially

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Speaker 1: when Jonathan I was out there. Get you get the

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Speaker 1: But I imagine did a good job. They found Black

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Speaker 1: cutting back door once for an easy one inside and

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Speaker 1: then Bain just exposed it because he felt good from three.

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Speaker 1: And then when he's ever saw a Hero, I'm just

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Speaker 1: attacking him like Hero just too light in the shorts

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Speaker 1: for a guy like Desmond Baine. So I think this

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Speaker 1: is a really bad matchup for the heat, the Orlando,

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Speaker 1: the way they play, in the personnel they have, and

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Speaker 1: they're just a good team too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were collapsing a little too hard in that

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Speaker 4: zone to allow the open threes. So I thought Davion

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Speaker 4: Drew Smith, I mean they missed. They just allowed Bane

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Speaker 4: just allowed him to be open. I think Spolsure was

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Speaker 4: doing a smart job of not putting Hero on bin

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Speaker 4: Baine only scored two buckets I think against Tyler Hero.

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Speaker 3: It's bain. Sometimes it sucks, but they made enough last

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Speaker 4: It reduces the amount of games we were seeing here

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Speaker 4: But now now they actually have the definitely. After two

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Speaker 4: They've got one TV provider or APP provider, whatever you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even even if there are less people watch.

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Speaker 3: Here's a take we heard at a bar recently. Winning

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Speaker 1: The only team to win a slam dunk contest was

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Speaker 1: A dunk contest winner by a mile? Yeah, buy a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rut up, run her up in a contest better

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Speaker 3: I like what I saw from Disilva last night as well.

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Speaker 2: So many Germans on this team, hopefully you think.

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Speaker 1: They'll travel to Vegas. The Germans base.

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Speaker 4: Oh, the fan base, the Germany as a country. I

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Speaker 4: that game. Right, because that's you know, five and a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, Oh that's there. That's their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then there's another there's a second game in Europe.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think so. I think it was. I think it

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Speaker 2: is London. Was it? Was it weird? Not seeing a

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Speaker 1: That's right, you said it. I mean the Orlando NBA

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Speaker 3: Desmond Bay and broke probably broke it, guys Oranery.

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Speaker 2: He said it was.

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Speaker 4: The CCO of the Magic said it was damaged in storage.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, water damage.

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Speaker 2: You think it's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Do you think at this point?

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Speaker 4: You know, what's funny is that the ceco's name is

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Speaker 1: Do you think at this point with the Lakers not

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Speaker 1: tonight because Luca was like, that thing's too slippery, so

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Speaker 1: they didn't play it for one of the games. Now

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Speaker 1: quarterfinal games. Do you think Victor Solomon should have to

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Speaker 1: give some money back your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever it is pro rated.

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Speaker 2: I agree games were playing on.

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Speaker 3: These fifty games have already two of them have not worked.

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Speaker 3: That would be four percent. So he's got to send

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Speaker 3: it back in. Okay, Victor Solomon's getting canceled next year,

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Speaker 3: they're going to say we're just going normal quarts.

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Speaker 2: Come on, this Magic courd is not his fault.

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Speaker 3: Fault, he recommended the paints.

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Speaker 4: You're damaging storage. However, I do agree that the Lakers

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Speaker 4: court was his fault. Solomon should be docked two percent

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Speaker 4: or whatever half the four percent.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I guess we don't know if they're playing on.

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Speaker 2: It tonight, I'd say no, there is there a FanDuel line.

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Speaker 2: Will they play on their NBA Cup court?

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Speaker 3: It's zero point five? Are you taking higher or lower

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So they didn't play it their last NBA Cup

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Speaker 1: Fixed the yeah, exactly, the varnish on it or whatever

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or yeah, maybe Luca just feels like it's slippery.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, not to get all personal with Luca,

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Speaker 5: That's it?

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Speaker 1: No, not to me. That's the crowd was into it.

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Speaker 1: because that one just garbage.

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Speaker 2: It's very very red. Uh maroon, No, he was maroon. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: A couple other notes here. Andrew Wiggins wild neck beard

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Speaker 3: I just really noticed it last Yeah, he's on his

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Speaker 5: Like a character Victor Solomon. No, No, Victor would have

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Speaker 3: Like smiley persona. Yeah, I think trying to tough enough

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Speaker 1: We had a shot clock malfunctioning late in the first quarter.

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Speaker 2: It didn't take too long.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm at the facilities there to get this CEO

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Speaker 1: I did like one of the timeouts where they have

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Speaker 1: A fan rocking a Sean Kemp magic jersey. That was

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Speaker 1: I like this moment from Spoe. And in one of

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Speaker 1: the clips they showed us nobody's making enough of an

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Speaker 2: He pointed that, yeah, And.

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Speaker 1: Then immediately after they showed us that clip, Desmond Bane

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to go And that's all I have

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Speaker 3: I wrote Eric Collins lines down when Hero had that

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Speaker 3: finish in the lane, pretty euro He learned that in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: That's not in Europe. When the Heat were blowing their

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Speaker 3: a screen door.

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Speaker 1: He likes that one. Yeah, yeah, I like that one too.

439
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: Tony Orlando after he said it in Anthony Blackscort immediately

440
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 3: and whoever didn't want anything to do with Tony Orlando

441
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 3: Bam out of Bayo had a tough and one in

442
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 3: the lane, and Eric Collins said he was stronger than

443
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 3: ten rows of onions. Yeah, that's my right arm pit

444
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: smells like. At the end of the night, game got

445
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 3: tied at sixty nine, and he just said no NBA

446
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 3: players ever worn the number sixty.

447
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was wild.

448
00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 3: Just the fact. Yi, He's like, hopefully these your teams

449
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 3: get tied at sixty nine. I got the perfect thing

450
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 3: to say. And then my last one was Desmond Bane

451
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 3: went to the free throw line at the end of

452
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 3: the game and he said he shoots a free throw

453
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 3: like a gentleman.

454
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: He said that twice.

455
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: I think he said it for another guy at the

456
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,479
Speaker 1: line too. He dropped the gentleman line. Wow, yeah, but

457
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't.

458
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 2: Really give you.

459
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 3: I don't get your self like that.

460
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 1: I don't get it. What am I missing on?

461
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 3: I don't get anything.

462
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: I don't get that.

463
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 1: He said it twice, he said for someone else, and

464
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: then the bane again.

465
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's bring up the lines for the NBA

466
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 4: Cup game left and right. Yeah, no one's ever worn

467
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 4: sixty nine. I literally had to think about it when

468
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 4: he said that is number one? Is there a reason

469
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 4: number two? Did anybody ever wear it? But I think

470
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Speaker 4: just the placement of it was fine.

471
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Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think the league would

472
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Speaker 1: allow it.

473
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not. Yeah, but I think so.

474
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

475
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 2: No, why why?

476
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 5: Well?

477
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: So the number?

478
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Speaker 1: Because I say that because I'm pretty sure you couldn't

479
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: when you could do your custom jerseys and stuff. I

480
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: feel like you could not get a sixty nine jersey.

481
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 3: That's crazy thought.

482
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 4: I mean maybe you can now pretty you're talking about

483
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 4: the NBA custom jersey.

484
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 1: You know, you make your own jersey like Mellis sixty nine.

485
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: I feel like you couldn't do it right. But I

486
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: wondered if anyone had ever worn it.

487
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: Because I can I can see a sixty. But I

488
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: guess that's just the NFL Cayes for sure.

489
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: I got it, big old offensive lineman where he's got it, Hockey,

490
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 1: he's got a baseball's got it.

491
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 3: Somebody needs to be the barrier breaker.

492
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: It's weird.

493
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 3: It is weird at.

494
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Speaker 1: This point that it is. I just don't think they'll

495
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Speaker 1: let them for some reason.

496
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Speaker 4: But the inaugural sixty nine where I will, so I guess.

497
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's move over to the other game last night,

498
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: A bit of a blowout here, Jalen Brunson scoring thirty five.

499
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: He was hot early, scored twenty in the first quarter

500
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: as the Knicks ended up crushing the Raptors to reach

501
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: the NBA Cup semifinals. First time New York is going

502
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: to Vegas in the NBA Cup, so they'll take on

503
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: the Magic. Get another game between those two teams. But

504
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: what do you think of this one where you want

505
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: to start with the Knicks dominating the Reps.

506
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: Of course I do want to start with the Reps,

507
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 4: but I'm not going to. We should respect the new

508
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: York Knicks. They're on their way to being the number

509
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 4: one seed in the Eastern Conference. There absolutely skyrocketing. They're

510
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: playing so well. It started with Jalen Brunson doing whatever

511
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 4: he wanted. They were running that wheel up top and

512
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 4: getting Yakub involved in Jakub's back. We'll talk about in

513
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 4: a sec. But he was so fricking good, and then

514
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 4: when he went to the bench, guys just jumped in

515
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 4: and took over in that second quarter to create that spread.

516
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: Whether it's Hart.

517
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 4: Who Jack of Pearl started on defensively as they tried

518
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 4: that move, or mckel bridges or og or the Cat

519
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 4: who had that awesome dunk, and it was actually brandon

520
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 4: Ingram who kind of hit jak of Pearl as Cat

521
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 4: was going to the basket.

522
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 2: He literally ran into him.

523
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 4: If you want to be a one of those fixed

524
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 4: conspiracy people, why is he hitting him? It did make

525
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: any sense anyways, Cat, Well, that was kind of like

526
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: the dagger to me. As I was watching on playback,

527
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 4: I was like, our buddy Grish, I called it then,

528
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 4: is it way too early?

529
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

530
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 4: But it just felt like the Raptors were totally relying

531
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: on brandon Ingram. Yeah, absolutely, they can't get into their

532
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 4: sets right now.

533
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: They do miss r. J.

534
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 4: Barrett's cutting, but Yaka Pertle is sort of the centerpiece

535
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 4: of their offense a lot of the times going through

536
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 4: him being that sort of connecting guy as you throw

537
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 4: it into him.

538
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: And I don't know about this back thing. We can.

539
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 4: It's just odd with backs because he can look great

540
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 4: two games and then have a terrible game the next

541
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Speaker 4: night and it could be his back where he signed

542
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 4: through twenty thirty. That's the scary thing with this guy.

543
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 4: He just didn't look right. He was there switching everything

544
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 4: and trying to get him evolved, as I said, but

545
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 4: even the second chance points against them were way too easy.

546
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 4: He's being hunted. So that's the scary part. The Raptors

547
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 4: just too slow getting into their sets. And Branding was

548
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 4: only a minus four in this game. Felt like he

549
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: was a minus one hundred, like everybody was a minus

550
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: hunter because nobody could play. But as soon as Brandon

551
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: Ingram went off the floor, it took him forever to

552
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: get into sets. They just weren't running anything. It didn't

553
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 4: seem like Scotty had it. Nobody had it in general

554
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 4: around Branding.

555
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean there were some similarities to the

556
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: Heat Magic Game in a way, because the Raptors started hot,

557
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: started promising. I mean, Karl Anthony Towns picked up his

558
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: two dumb fowls, so he had to leave. Brunson was cooking,

559
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: but Ingram was basically matching him. He had seventeen in

560
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: the first quarter, Yeah, to sort of like even out

561
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: Brunson's twenty. I thought the young Raptors in the first

562
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: quarter were playing well. They somehow had a lead. They're

563
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: up thirty nine to thirty five. But then man second

564
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: quarter they couldn't hit a shot. They've just got destroyed

565
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirteen in the second quarter, and that

566
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: sort of was the game. There, seventeen point lead at halftime,

567
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: and they never really got all that close in the

568
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: second half.

569
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Speaker 3: No, maybe did they get it under fifteen, I don't remember.

570
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, it got to like fourteen fifteen.

571
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, seemed to be around fifteen for the entirety of

572
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 3: the second half. I thought Brunson was just phenomenal, especially

573
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: in the first quarter. Twenty points on seven of nine shooting,

574
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: and like you guys mentioned, he was basically just testing

575
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: Perl's lateral movement.

576
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: The entire time.

577
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: Let's get him into a screen and roll. I'll dance

578
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: and he either shoot a pull up jumper or a

579
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: step back jumper if it was shed sticking with him

580
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: just too small to really challenge Brunson. The guys used

581
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: to score on over players who were much taller than him.

582
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: So you put a guy that's his size, that's easy

583
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: work for Jalen Brunson. I guess he's second in the

584
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: league in first quarter scoring this season, which is kind

585
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: of different than Brunson has played in the past. He's

586
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: usually a fourth quarter takeover guy. But Nick's offense is

587
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: really humming right now. They've won eight of their last

588
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: nine games during that stretch, their third in offense, sixth

589
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 3: in defense. Part of it has been Josh Hart moving

590
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: back into the starting lineup. Another part of it is

591
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: that Mike Brown has said we're only playing one center

592
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: at a time. There was a lot of talk about

593
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: should Mitchell Robinson and Karl Anthony Towns start a center.

594
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: It's always Towns at center. They're kind of a five

595
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 3: out when he's the guy out there, but they're a

596
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 3: little bit four out one in as well. He's setting

597
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 3: more screens right now, which has been beneficial to Mikhale Bridges.

598
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: But they just look like they know how they want

599
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: to play offensively, and it doesn't feel like a huge

600
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 3: burden on Brunton to create everything like it did last season.

601
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: It feels much more equal opportunity you consider the way

602
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: the possession game was going, Robinson getting into his offensive

603
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: rebounding with the Raptors offense totally stuck in the mud,

604
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: like if you just give New York enough opportunities, they're

605
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: gonna make it happen. The Raptors are struggling right now,

606
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: there's seven games slump, they're twenty eighth in offense. A

607
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: lot of that has been no RJ. Barrett. I think

608
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: missing quickly was big last night because he's the only

609
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: guy who can like move around and shoot for the.

610
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 1: Raptors and you're losing forty points right there. Yeah, it's

611
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: like with those guys missing and like you were already

612
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: gonna have a tough time trying to beat the Knicks

613
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: take out forty points, like good luck?

614
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, And what do you guys think about the juice?

615
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: Michael Brady Michael Brady. Michael Grady kept bringing up how

616
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: there was zero juice for Toronto, biggest game since the

617
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three play in. It was pretty dead.

618
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: It was even in.

619
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 3: The first quarter.

620
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, so that's always not a late

621
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: arriving crowd, but a later arriving crowd to get into

622
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: a game. I find in Toronto. There but late. And

623
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: then it was then it got They got punk there

624
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: in the second quarter and the biggest pop of the

625
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: night kept. They kept showing a little tiny cute ass

626
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: kid on the jumbo Tron. The crowd would go nuts

627
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: for the kid.

628
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: Oh they were cheering for pizza and.

629
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: The for pizza to don't take me back to those days.

630
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're not going there. Yeah, so it was troubling.

631
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 3: They weren't.

632
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 4: They weren't into it. I was after coming off the

633
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: Orlando game. I was waiting for the crowd to emulate

634
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: a little bit of what was happening in Orlando.

635
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: It just didn't happen.

636
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: They to it because they got their asses kicked. That

637
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: felt like to me, like the Knicks felt like men

638
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: and the Raptors felt like boys. And that was just

639
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: like a professional ass kicking. It was and again they're

640
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: they're down, guys, and the Pearl back injury. Scottie Barnes

641
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: picked a bad time to have a brutal game. Bad

642
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: game from him, especially offensively, like he couldn't hit a three,

643
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: he couldn't use any of those. And then Darko, I mean,

644
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: I sort of get it because you're shorthanded guys, but man,

645
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: like he's playing chucky. Hepburn like first quarter minutes here,

646
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: in first half minutes, and like he was trying a

647
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: lot of guys. It's just like this, I mean, this

648
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: is like a win and advanced type of game, and

649
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 1: it's like, are you really taking it seriously or not?

650
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: Or is it still sort of we're a development team.

651
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: We're trying to figure it out for the season. Off

652
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: the bench, I could have told you it's not gonna

653
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: be chucky hepburn. Well, literally, I was calling for Aj Lawson,

654
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: who's another two weak. The problem is it's not any

655
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: of them. Grady Dick, No, Grady Dick is bad. He

656
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: might be a bust. He's a shooter that can't shoot.

657
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: He's not very crafty. He can't shoot, that's for sure.

658
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: He sucks this season, but he can shoot the ball.

659
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's trying to find his role in that second

660
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: second lineup, but aj Lawson was good against the Celtics

661
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: on Sunday. Anyway, they were looking for somebody. They're desperately.

662
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: They were men versus boy Speaking of boys, Colin mary

663
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: Oy he was his backup for Yak of Pearl because

664
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Speaker 4: they said, okay, we'll go to something, and Caulin Murray

665
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 4: Boyle because they don't have a real backup center, Sandro

666
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 4: Man who is not that guy. They tried Murray Boyles

667
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: and he was all right, he was trying. But it

668
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: is odd what Darko went and talked about in the

669
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: prest conference. He said, Yaka just isn't right right now.

670
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: It's not like he needs to do something different on

671
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 4: the floor. He's just not right and maybe these two

672
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 4: days will help him get right. But that's the scary thing.

673
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: They just signed him to a monster extension and he

674
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 4: is everything on that offense because they don't have a

675
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 4: backup center and they're trying to go to culin Ary Boyles,

676
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: who was totally fine. But the scary thing on the

677
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 4: other side is everybody contributing. You know, Josh Hart is

678
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 4: awesome right now.

679
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: He is playing the best basketball of his career I

680
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: think right now.

681
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they throw yaka pertl at him

682
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: so Yakub can come off into the paint and sag

683
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 4: off him.

684
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: But splash, splash, splash.

685
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: Heart was literally, you know, their second best scorer, I

686
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: would say, besides Brunson. But because everybody else is contributing,

687
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: they are unstoppable. Really, they truly were.

688
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: Damn good when yeah mckailbridge is playing at the level

689
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: he's playing og now back, he's great. You know, Kat

690
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: didn't have to do a whole lot offensively, still got

691
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: a ton of rebounds, had the big dunk. Like you said,

692
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: Brunton's your guy. I mean, he's a lock to give

693
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: you thirty when he's like locked in and then all

694
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: these other contributions. You're right. It's a good team. And

695
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm with you, Tasks. I think I will

696
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: be shocked if they're not the number one seed at

697
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: the end of the regular season in Eastern Conference. That

698
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 1: should really be their goal too, to like help their

699
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: chances obviously, and in potential playoff matchups in the East,

700
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: to have a potential home game seven because they're awesome

701
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: at home too. They've lost one game in Madison Square good.

702
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: They were technically the fan dual favorites to make it

703
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: to out of the Eastern Conference plus eleven hundred fourth favorite.

704
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: Oh wait, this is to win the finals. Anyways, I

705
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: have to imagine that they are the favorites in the

706
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference, and they are to me just because they

707
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: got a more of a track record than the Pistons do.

708
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: The Pistons have played incredible this season, but the Knicks

709
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: have really started to turn things around as their schedules

710
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: eased up a little bit and they've kind of established

711
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: their style of play. They also made the conference finals

712
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: last year. Like Detroit, hasn't won a playoff series yet,

713
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: so they're gonna have to prove it a little bit

714
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: come playoff time. But I would think the Knicks' best

715
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: team in the East.

716
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Brunson was going to give us a

717
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 4: fifty spot, but the Raptors just weren't good enough to

718
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: make him do that to get them there. But I

719
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: was surprised doing a playback to hear that the highest

720
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 4: NBA Cup performance was lower than fifty. It's never been

721
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: a fifty. There's never been a fifty one game, and

722
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: it's only a few years old. It's it's sort of understandable.

723
00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: But Steph did had a forty nine in the Cup.

724
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: That's the biggest game in any Cup game, any group

725
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: knots and the final that doesn't count. Okay, yeah, I

726
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: guess yeah, okay.

727
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 3: Next plus two seventy to make the finals to win

728
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: the East Calves Pistons is how it goes right now,

729
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: the Calves.

730
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Speaker 1: Calves still hope. Let's get to some more random notes

731
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: sm As, we'll hit it again, Jady, it's so fun.

732
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, random.

733
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: Let's start with the uh Tim Horton's referenced on the

734
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime broadcast with Taylor Rooks and Steve Nash sharing

735
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: their go to orders from Tim Horton's. Because Brandon Ingram

736
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: was holding a cup of Tim's there on the on

737
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: the bench. Didn't expect to see Tim Horton's referenced on

738
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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime.

739
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: List.

740
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: What do you think about their new coffee cups? What

741
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: were their go to orders?

742
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: Taylor Rook said something some sort of mocha thing that

743
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with, just a sweeten okay, yeah, and

744
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: then was like, just black coffee.

745
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: He's never ordered anything at Tim Hortons. If you say

746
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: just black coffee, yeah, that's fine, he's never ordered it.

747
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, that's that. I'm like, there's no way he's

748
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: putting dairy or sugar into his coffee and there's nothing

749
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: left to put in it.

750
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's a whole freaking array of freaking timbit

751
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: like a little doughnut hole something.

752
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 1: It was funny when said that, and then like Blake

753
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Griffin and has them were like almost like, wow, respect

754
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: only black coffee because like then has them started talking

755
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: about like, oh, he's like a kool aid man, like

756
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: put all the sugar you can in.

757
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Blake said there's nothing more Canadian than a

758
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: black coffee. That's not true.

759
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: If he had said double double, I was sort of

760
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: surprising to say that.

761
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: Anyways, nobody goes to Tim Warrens. I get that it's

762
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 4: Tim Mortons.

763
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Speaker 3: They don't roll out the rim right now.

764
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 4: They look like you know what's different about those cups?

765
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: Ever had one, but it didn't have one of those

766
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: roll up lids, Like the actual lid is different lid

767
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 4: now you know you roll usually peel it back.

768
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, this isn't that underneath the plastic lid the roll

769
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: up yes, hold on, hold on, yes, but I'm saying

770
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: it is different.

771
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: You're right, I went from roll up there.

772
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: You can't used to be able to roll back the

773
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: actual lid, like you know, a brown plastic lid. That's

774
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: more of a Starbucks lid. That's a straight up that's

775
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: an elevated lid. So what's going on anymore?

776
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 3: Uh, we're saying it's the American venture capital system that

777
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: has changed Tim Hortons.

778
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. They are owned by an American company.

779
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: Right now, they got American lids.

780
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: Hey is this Bearn's what is it? Bernstein Berenstein Bears?

781
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Moment here? Am I nuts j D? Or did Tim

782
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: Hortons used to have the apostrophe? Oh? Because there's no

783
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: apostrophe now on Tim Hortons. And now I'm starting to

784
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: like question whether there ever was. I thought there was.

785
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: I thought there was, yeah, yeah, and I thought Tim

786
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: words didn't Then it seems to be gone because I

787
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: was doing a little research last night, or at least

788
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: looking to see if it was there.

789
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: Interesting.

790
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

791
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: Somebody told me you might.

792
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 3: Have a short cook it here on new Tim Horton Coffee.

793
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: You couldn't really run it back, man, you did?

794
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: How about having Brett Barry on the call for this one.

795
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: Great to hear Brett.

796
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: That was nice. He immediately dropped a John Mayer gravity reference.

797
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: Did he yep?

798
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: You sure did.

799
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, Boone is back.

800
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 5: Yeah.

801
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: I saw him a gravity on the court obviously, and

802
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: and I think he's talking specifically about Brunson and the gravity.

803
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: And then he made a John Mayer reference. And I'm

804
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: pretty convinced Grady as a good teammate, like agreed with them.

805
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: He's like, oh yeah, but I don't know. Maybe maybe

806
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: Michael Grady likes John Mayer. Maybe he does. Maybe I'm

807
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm just judging here, but I thought he was just like, yeah,

808
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: for sure, and then moved right on.

809
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: Brett Barry. We should put in a call get him

810
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: on the show. Run Back the Bonies. Yeah, who else? JD.

811
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 3: Dyer was the sideline guy talking to Og and Andobi,

812
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 3: and people said he brought out OG's British accident. Yeah

813
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: that's kind of true.

814
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: Hey, I like this guy, JD.

815
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: Dyer.

816
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, this is a great guy.

817
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: I've met him a bunch of times at like finals

818
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. I really like him because he

819
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: likes our show.

820
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's good too. I like him even more now. Yep,

821
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: I've never met him, but I just like his energy. Yeah,

822
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: obviously it's great ergy as hell.

823
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, shook his hand after the interview too, and just

824
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: walk away. He must like him. It's great to hear

825
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 4: a freaking British accent.

826
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: I agree.

827
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: We don't hear them enough on American sports. Just any accents?

828
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 2: Really?

829
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: How about Raptors super fan Nov Botchia with Santa. Got

830
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: a couple of books at this last night. This was

831
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: the best shot of the two of them. No, did

832
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: not brought Santa with him to the game last night, right,

833
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: Why are sitting next to each other?

834
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 5: Well?

835
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: Nov always has somebody sitting next to Yeah, generally Yeah, yeah,

836
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: so I think he brought Santa.

837
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: I think he's just a guy. Yeah. I think he's

838
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 2: just a guy who came dressed. But maybe so.

839
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: You hold on, you think this is a photo op?

840
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: You think Santa made his way to Nov because that's

841
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: Nov's seat, That's where he sits and always with somebody.

842
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: Obviously you're saying, well, I think his seat may have

843
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: just been empty.

844
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: No, I got well, I'm gonna let's a what's Knov's

845
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: representation reach? Out to rink.

846
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll tell you.

847
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Santa's not working yet. It's not a

848
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: couple of weeks off.

849
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: You have to like oversee the elves or something.

850
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: At this point.

851
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: Two other things I had never noticed, and maybe this

852
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: is just me, that Jordan Clarkson has tattoos in his ears,

853
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: Like he is tatted up like everywhere, but I had

854
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: never noticed that it's in his like the top of

855
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: his ears. I think both.

856
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 4: Oh really, yeah, I saw it the other day. I thought, okay,

857
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 4: there's a short coming. Who knew that his ears are tattooed. Yeah,

858
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 4: it's on the cartilage up there.

859
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's got a fighter web.

860
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: Huh, that's got a hurt. But I mean, wow, he's

861
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: committed to the tat. And then finally, Red Panda performing

862
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: last night. What do you think those bulls are made

863
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: out of?

864
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: Like they're not breakable, right, they're not breakable.

865
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: But I don't think they're plastic.

866
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so either. I think it's more

867
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 2: like a clay like they that would shatter.

868
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have like a clay like coating or texture.

869
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: I wonder if that helps them stick, like when she

870
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: tosses them up from her foot like I couldn't stop

871
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: thinking about this. I want to get my hands on

872
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: these bulls.

873
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: What are your bulls made?

874
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, they like they fall. They set better than any plastic, probably.

875
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: Like a plastic because you're right, they're like too light.

876
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: They have to have some weight to them. Yes, for

877
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: the flip to I think execute, but breaking up a

878
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: good point that they're not allowed to break. No, because

879
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: you couldn't have that on a cup court.

880
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 5: Right.

881
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: Last night, she had a bit of a tumble at

882
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: the end when she comes.

883
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: Off of the off of the perfect No.

884
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, she fell, and that's how she obviously hurt the one.

885
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: She was fine, and the show was great.

886
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 3: She was great. She was great.

887
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was great.

888
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: That's all I got, alright.

889
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

890
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 3: Circling back to our poll, bigger individual accomplishment winning the

891
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: NBA Cup or winning a slam dunk contest, fifty percent.

892
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 1: Say slam Dunk Cup individual. What are people talking about?

893
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: You look at that basketball reference page and it says

894
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: NBA Cup Champion.

895
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: Does it?

896
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm checking Lebron right though, does it?

897
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 5: No?

898
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't.

899
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: But I mean, well, I can't use Lebron for dunk contest. No,

900
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: has anyone won both? No, Hamadu Diallo was not on

901
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: the thunder. Oh he didn't even win.

902
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: And he box now Andre Jackson, he was in a

903
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: dunk contest.

904
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: He was Darvin Ham was in a dunk contest.

905
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: Was in a dunk contest. No, I don't think so.

906
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: Wow, it was crazy to learn.

907
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: Oh well Lebron does say twenty three twenty four I

908
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: s t m v P.

909
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: No, that's nice.

910
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: I forgot. He was MVP of the tournament before they

911
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: even called it the Cup.

912
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe that's the real question, Cup MVP versus dunk

913
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 3: con more.

914
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like I like that comparison

915
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: a lot more than the team winning the cup.

916
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 3: All right, well see us after the breaking.

917
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: All right, all right, who is going to remember that

918
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 4: you got a guy, that a guy was NBA Cup

919
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: MVP and that it's a guy in Lebron James where

920
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: we know every one of his accolades and he cares

921
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 4: about his accolades, you know.

922
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but does he care about that? So who won

923
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: it last year?

924
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 2: Easy? Got to be honest.

925
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: Yea, yes, the word it's on his basketball reference.

926
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: Okay, do you have the bracket JD do we want

927
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: to show the people. Yeah, there it is behind us

928
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Speaker 1: here on set, full screen now for everybody to see.

929
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: Magic Knicks quick prediction. Who you got winning that one?

930
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: Going to the final of the Cup. It's going down

931
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: on Saturday.

932
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: It's going down on Saturday night. I'll take the.

933
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: Knicks Saturday next.

934
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Saturday night.

935
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: That's a five o'clock Eastern start for us here. That's

936
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: a two thirty Pacific start. That's a day game baby

937
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: at the T Mobile. Remember, yeah, we were there for

938
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: one of those because they play two games in the

939
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: same arena, so you got to clear it out for

940
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: that first one and then you got to play the

941
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: second one later. Anyway, tasks, do you like the Knicks

942
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: or Magic?

943
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: I do like the next, but I'm taking the Magic.

944
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay.

945
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: I'm cheering. I'm cheering for the Magic. I gotta be honest.

946
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with TKI. I do like the next.

947
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: They look really good.

948
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: Right now, they do.

949
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: I will say the weird thing about Jansopo winning the

950
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 4: NBA Cup MVP last year. It still says I T

951
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 4: MVP not as cool as it's saying NBA Cup MVP.

952
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: You'd say, just Cup MVP, Yeah yeah, get out of here.

953
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna get into the slop scale on

954
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Speaker 1: On Monday, eighty two players signed in the offseason will

969
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: become trade eligible. That is December fifteenth, So that's gonna

970
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: mean ninety percent of the league could be moved. When

971
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Speaker 1: we hit that Monday date. So Sham's our guy. He

972
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Speaker 1: figured it was the perfect time to slap it up

973
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Speaker 1: yesterday and feed the piggies.

974
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Speaker 4: JD.

975
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Speaker 3: Point it up.

976
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Speaker 1: Were we are waining Sham's latest NBA trade rumors using

977
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: the slop scale. The heavy, the heavier, the juicier, the

978
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: sloppier an NBA trade rumor, the more buckets a slop

979
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: the boys will assign to it. Go from one bucket

980
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: to slop to five buckets a slop. That's maximum slop

981
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: here on no dunks. So first one here, this is

982
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: all shams guys. Anthony Davis has become a critical trade

983
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: target for multiple East contenders ahead of the February deadline.

984
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: According to Sham's we got the Pistons, we got the Hawks,

985
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: we got our Toronto Raptors as teams expected to pursue

986
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: the ten time All Star So task, I want to

987
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: start with you, how many buckets a slop? Here? With

988
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: this report of interest from some of these Eastern Conference

989
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: teams for.

990
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: A d it is slop season.

991
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 4: I gotta say I start the day every day the

992
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: exact same way I get out of bed, plant my

993
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: feet on that carpet, and I sing Chalm what's the

994
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: trade of the day.

995
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 2: It's going to be Anthony Davis sloppy.

996
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 4: I think I'll go for because it all depends on

997
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 4: what the MAVs get back.

998
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 5: Now.

999
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 4: It ain't the Pistons. There's no way I'm not buying it.

1000
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 4: Plays in the same area as Jalen Duran. He's too

1001
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 4: old of that team. They need, they need more space.

1002
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: I don't think it works. I think they just got

1003
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 4: to rely on Jalen during the Raptors ain't gonna work either,

1004
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: I don't think so. They're not close enough to try

1005
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: and say Anthony David was gonna put us over the top,

1006
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 4: and we already got an injured center and Yaka Perol.

1007
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: You want another one. Let's be honest. As much as I.

1008
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: Defend Anthony Davis, he's literally missed half the games this season.

1009
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: I don't think the rap should buy in the Hawks.

1010
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 4: I buy that a little bit more. And the reason

1011
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 4: why I don't go five sloppies on this one is

1012
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 4: because it depends on what they trade back and what

1013
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: the MAVs get back. Now, the Hawks got some interesting stuff.

1014
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: When I woke up this morning, I also grabbed my

1015
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 4: book to this is my slot book to.

1016
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 2: Read about everything everything.

1017
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 3: Book.

1018
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: Gonna call it a bible. One call it that is

1019
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: everything going on.

1020
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: As far as what the Hawks can trade, it's so interesting,

1021
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: Like we know they made a great move this year

1022
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 4: for the more favorable of the Bucks Repelicans picks. That's

1023
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: very interesting. So they also have the right to swap

1024
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 4: picks with the Calves and they have their own, but

1025
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: the Spurs can take theirs. What's more interesting next year,

1026
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 4: they don't have their own, but they have the least

1027
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 4: favorable of the Bucks or the Pelicans. Both those teams

1028
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 4: could be stinky next year, especially if Fiannis gets traded Repelicans,

1029
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 4: so that could be that could be one of those

1030
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: picks they throw out for Anthony Davis, and they say

1031
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 4: that could be good from the MAVs perspective. So I

1032
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: think the Hawks are the one from these three teams.

1033
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably right, But I'm going for sloppies as

1034
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: well here because I think depending on the price, And

1035
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: John's has also reported that he thinks the package for

1036
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis would be built around role players, picks and

1037
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 3: potentially expiring contracts, so the price might be pretty cheap.

1038
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: And I think all three of these teams should try

1039
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: and do it because the East is there for the winning.

1040
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: We talked about it earlier. New York is probably the

1041
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: team to beat. Detroit has been awesome this season, but

1042
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: nobody feels like they're running away with the Eastern Conference,

1043
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: and ad would be a difference maker for all of

1044
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: these teams. I think the Pistons could survive with a

1045
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: double big lineup with Jalen Duran and Anthony Davis. They

1046
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: can both play enough at the free throw line, extended

1047
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: sort of area. We've seen some teams have some great

1048
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: success playing double bigs. Anthony Davis I remember won a

1049
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: title playing double bigs, So I think that could work.

1050
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: This would certainly help the Hawks, especially if, like the

1051
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 3: main thing they're shipping out is a poor zingis that's

1052
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: an upgrade.

1053
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: There, wantingis back. They're gonna have to like it could

1054
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: be a three team trade, Yeah, for sure, I think

1055
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean.

1056
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: The MAVs are probably not getting back what people think

1057
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis wor And that's the thing is that if

1058
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: the price is cheap, every team should do it. You

1059
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: do have to pay Anthony Davis right away, because he's

1060
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: basically saying through rich Paul, extend me or trade me

1061
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: to Dallas. So you're gonna have to pay up for

1062
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: I guess like thirty two through thirty five years of

1063
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 3: age Anthony Davis. And that's a little scary.

1064
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, little third guy that plays sixty percent, but you

1065
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: know it's awesome.

1066
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: Is like making the NBA Finals?

1067
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah. Sow which team is going to execute that?

1068
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: I understand the Pistons if they're going to do it

1069
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 4: or if the form the mass for a second, if

1070
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: they're going to try Anthonyda's got to be now, this

1071
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 4: is when they're going to get the most of them,

1072
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 4: rather than the offseason. The younger the better. It's up

1073
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: to the Pistons to say, this guy can put us

1074
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 4: over the top.

1075
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: Okay, so what type of dealing the Pistons looking at

1076
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris contract. Do you have to depart with one

1077
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: of your bigs and like Beef stew Isaiah Stewart, a

1078
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: Marcus Sasser and then obviously some a draft pick. Let's say,

1079
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: is that enough to get it done? I think that

1080
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: works financially or the Maps saying no, no, we got

1081
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: to have Ivy, even that IVY in that mix, I

1082
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: would think.

1083
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: That the Mavericks would want Ivy. I would think so

1084
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: to get a guard that could be helpful for Cooper

1085
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 3: Flag going forward, and I would do it. I would

1086
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 3: one hundred percent do it if I.

1087
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: Was Detroit, Detroit, Detroit. So the main piece is being

1088
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: I know you have to add contract to get there,

1089
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: but Ivy is the key piece. Yep, going to Dallas

1090
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: for eighty.

1091
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah here, Yeah, I just don't like the combination. I

1092
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 4: know Anthony Davis won a freaking title and he can

1093
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 4: play anywhere on the floor, but now we're talking six

1094
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 4: years later, we're talking about the Pistons ascension, and I'm.

1095
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: Just scared about Anthony Davis.

1096
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 4: As good as he is in the playoffs, I would

1097
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 4: be reluctant, but I understand the shams thrown in there.

1098
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 4: It's going to be picks, it's going to be supporting players.

1099
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 4: It really couldn't be much more than a pick and

1100
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 4: a young player and the combination of a first round pick.

1101
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 4: Probably an Ivy could do it, because I do agree

1102
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: teams are not disputing who's going to trade more for

1103
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: this guy. It's not going to be that monstrous of

1104
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 4: a package for Anthony Davis. Doesn't feel like it point.

1105
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: The team that needs Anthony Davis the most of those

1106
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: three teams is their Toronto Raptors. We just talked about

1107
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: how they got sort of embarrassed last night by the Knicks.

1108
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: Now Perl and his back injury and the money they

1109
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: already have locked up there. But Ad, when he plays

1110
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: a decent solution obviously to your defense, to your rebounding,

1111
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: still rebounds at a good level. It's just like man,

1112
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: the guy since winning a chip again plays in sixty

1113
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: percent of the games. And then there's the salary part.

1114
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: He's fifty four million this year, he's fifty eight next year.

1115
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: Then he has a sixty three million dollars player option.

1116
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: But Tray, You're right, they're basically saying, no, I want

1117
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: to sign that contract extension. He's sort of at times

1118
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: already glass and he's only getting older. It's a hell

1119
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: of a risk, and I think it does make some

1120
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: sense for the Raptors to get him, But I'm like hadding,

1121
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: Ad is not going to like catapult the Raptors. I

1122
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: don't think into the conversation as an Eastern contender really,

1123
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know if about the fit offensively, if

1124
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be a d Barnes and Ingram. He

1125
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: got like two of them sort of operating in the

1126
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: mid range. You gotta pray that Scotty Barnes can still

1127
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: hit the three. It's a little clunky, even though, God,

1128
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: they could use them like it could use them so

1129
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: much to help themselves. And the Raptors have shown a

1130
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: willingness to trade right for all star level players that

1131
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: have a bit of a depressed value because of injury

1132
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: or salary or concerns. Well, yeah, with Kawai as the

1133
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: perfect example, brandon Ingram as a more recent example. You

1134
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: know not results are still out on that one.

1135
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, that would be the worst part. The Raptors

1136
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: are just getting older.

1137
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 4: We question whether or not they're really ready to jump

1138
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: up into that top tier.

1139
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: And you just get older.

1140
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 4: You just are going with a player who does play

1141
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: in the same area as a couple other guys. You're

1142
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 4: just clogging up even more. Okay, it doesn't play all

1143
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: that much. I'd be worried, that's for sure, especially when

1144
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: your center that you just signed is also banged up.

1145
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: In this hypothetically, I would try and trade Pertle through

1146
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: the Mavericks for Anthony Davis. Do the upgrade there and

1147
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: then it's going to be like a big contract like

1148
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: a beard or something like that, or quickly or something.

1149
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: So we'll see which of those three teams maybe make them.

1150
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 3: Barrett and Perle see you if the offer was there,

1151
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: But I don't think the Maps would say yes to that.

1152
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: To that, Yeah, they're gonna hope they can get more

1153
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: than that. All right, let's move on. Keeping with the

1154
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: Mavericks though, in addition to trying to move ad Shams's

1155
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: reporting that the Mavericks are also open to exploring the

1156
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: trade markets for Klay Thompson, Daniel gafferd and D'Angelo Russell.

1157
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: How many buckets a slop on all of those guys

1158
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: that the Maths are saying, Hey, we're open for business.

1159
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: This is only like two buckets a slop to me.

1160
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 3: I think they have to be open to trading Anthony Davis.

1161
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: We've talked about it a lot from a team building perspective,

1162
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: and makes a ton of sense to ship him out

1163
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: and hopefully get some picks in the future. But as

1164
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: the Shams reporting goes, maybe the offers aren't going to

1165
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: be there for Anthony Davis, which makes me think they

1166
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: might be a little bit more hesitant to trade Davis

1167
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 3: than I originally thought, because it's kind of nice to

1168
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 3: have Anthony Davis playing next to Cooper Flag. You got

1169
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 3: to have some good veterans around your young guys to

1170
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: really develop them, and we've seen early on, you know,

1171
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: results are a little mixed, I think with Cooper and

1172
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis. But Davis setting screens helps Cooper Flag get

1173
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: a runway to the rim. They are both able to

1174
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 3: find each other. For Ali Oops, I was a little

1175
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 3: concerned when Ad found Cooper for the back door cut.

1176
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 3: He started celebrating with the goggles. Cooper started celebrating with

1177
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: his teammates. They never celebrated together. Why was that? I

1178
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: don't know, you think it, you think I'm joking, But

1179
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: like remember when Lebron didn't celebrate with Isaiah Thomas. Yes, right,

1180
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 3: Like when these guys don't necessarily want to be together,

1181
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 3: they don't always celebrate together. If these guys were linked,

1182
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: they would be hugging each other. Did you say A

1183
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: d did the goggles? He's wearing goggles. He did goggles. Yeah,

1184
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 3: he had a beautiful backdoor pass and he went goggles mode.

1185
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 3: Cooper was hugging everybody except for a d just saying,

1186
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 3: just saying, so, I wouldn't be surprised to see Anthony

1187
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 3: Davis and this season in Dallas. If the offers aren't there,

1188
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: they would have to pay him in the summer. But

1189
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 3: guess what, people are still going to always be interested

1190
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: in trading for Anthony Davis, and maybe if he's proved

1191
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 3: that he can play the back half of this season healthy,

1192
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: then maybe his trade value is a little bit stronger

1193
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 3: next year. The other guys, I don't know if anybody's

1194
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 3: worth a first round pick. Thompson, D'Angelo Russell. They got

1195
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: long contracts. Gafferd is through twenty nine, Clay Is through

1196
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: twenty seven, and Russell's on a veteran minimum. He's a

1197
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: buyout of anything.

1198
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: We got four characters here.

1199
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 4: I think you've got to develop a slop scale for

1200
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 4: each one of them, really, because if somebody is offering

1201
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 4: something for Dangel Russell, you take it. There's no doubt

1202
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 4: Jason gidd did not start him in the beginning of

1203
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: the season. I thought this guy is a capable player.

1204
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 4: He would start. He didn't thinks of not being good

1205
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 4: with him coming off the bench, and he's not going

1206
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 4: to be given that starting role.

1207
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson as well.

1208
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 4: Somebody is willing to offer something for Clay because they

1209
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 4: think that they need a bench shooter when it comes

1210
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: to postseason time, it's Clay. We talked about Anthony Davis.

1211
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 4: If there's a huge package, you got to do it.

1212
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 4: As far as Daniel Gafford goes, he has signed for

1213
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 4: a long term deal, but I'd be reluctant to trade him.

1214
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 4: I think the Derek Lively scenario is really important. He

1215
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 4: hasn't played in a few weeks. He underwent surgery on

1216
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: that foot in July to clean out those bone spurs.

1217
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 4: That was a whole weird thing where Niko Harrison fired

1218
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 4: the training staff because of what was going on with

1219
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 4: not only Lively but every one of their players, including

1220
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: Luca and now it Lively hasn't been able to shake

1221
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 4: that thing at all. He's he missed more than two

1222
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 4: months last season and now out this year. It's the

1223
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 4: same foot injury, the bone spurs. So I don't know

1224
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 4: what's going on with Eric Lilively really, but I think

1225
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 4: you want to keep Daniel Gafford, who can run up

1226
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 4: and down the floor and be good for you and

1227
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 4: play until the end of that contract. He's a solid player,

1228
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 4: so as far as slop levels go, I would keep

1229
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 4: We'll only go one for the Gafford and the other

1230
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 4: ones would be sloppier I think.

1231
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm almost embarrassed to move to this next one here.

1232
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: The Warriors will discuss trades for forward Jonathan Kaminga when

1233
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: he is eligible to be moved January fifteenth, Okay, not

1234
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: December fifteenth. For Kaminga. After discussions with the Suns and

1235
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: the Kings in the summer failed to progress, Golden State

1236
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: wants to find upgrades on its rosters. TK. I'll start

1237
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: with you, how many bucks a slot?

1238
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: I guess it's five. He's going to be traded, guaranteed.

1239
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 3: But the question for me is, like, are the Warriors

1240
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 3: going to play him? In the meantime? Caught a DMPCD

1241
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: against the Boles. They blew him out. He's been replaced

1242
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: by Pat Spencer. His minutes have gone down month by

1243
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: month by month, thirty in October twenty four, November nineteen,

1244
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 3: and December. And like I said, he just straight up

1245
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: didn't play against the Bulls. He's talked in the past

1246
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: about I hate being told to stay ready. I am

1247
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: going to stay ready. Meanwhile, Pat Spencer's like, yeah, I

1248
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 3: stay ready. I never know what I'm going to play.

1249
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: Steph Curry's coming back. I don't know if I'm gonna play,

1250
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: But who cares? When I go out there, I ball out.

1251
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: I don't know which team is going to trade for

1252
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kaminga at twenty two million dollars a year. It'll

1253
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: be a dumb team, But there's a few of them

1254
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 3: still out there. I cheer for one of them, yeah,

1255
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 3: you know, and another dumb team trades with the team

1256
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 3: that I cheer for. There are teams out there who

1257
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: might think Kaminga can help them going forward, and you

1258
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 3: can probably get him pretty cheap because the Warriors will

1259
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: just be happy to get him off their books.

1260
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but what are the Warriors getting back? That's that question.

1261
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 4: I think that's why it's a little bit even less

1262
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 4: likely than last year. Last year, in the middle of

1263
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 4: the year, we all thought the same thing Cominga's being dealt.

1264
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 4: Obviously did not happen. Steve Kurr looks like he's trying

1265
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 4: again to try and make him a better player, sitting him.

1266
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 4: All of his quotes are we're looking for a guy

1267
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 4: who plays can assistant basketball. It's not that guy. And

1268
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: you look at the Warriors, they need help. They are

1269
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 4: playing a bunch of guys who are doing the right thing,

1270
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 4: moving the ball, hustling, playing hard, but they need a

1271
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 4: talent level bump. And if it comes internally, that's where

1272
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 4: they'd like it. It's Jonathan Kminga. They're not going to

1273
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: trade for somebody else who will help talent wise more

1274
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 4: than Kuminga possibly can. So I think they literally it's

1275
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 4: it's one of those If he plays well, they may

1276
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 4: they may just keep him around. I think that's a possibility.

1277
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 4: And we saw at the beginning of the season, Well,

1278
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: this is a different guy. He's cuttings, he's slicing, he's

1279
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 4: not trying to get into that middle ange and be

1280
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 4: that guy the I'm taking over this team. So if

1281
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 4: he can vacillate back to that a little bit, that's

1282
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 4: the that's the type of player that they want. I

1283
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 4: just don't know if another team is really willing to

1284
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 4: give up enough.

1285
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: So one of these crappy, bad teams will take a

1286
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: chance on Kaminga, and they should act like you said

1287
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 1: last year, we thought he would be traded. You're right,

1288
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 1: but The problem with that was the contract situation where

1289
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 1: he was going to be obviously available, right, I mean,

1290
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: and then now he's locked up here for a very

1291
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: short term deal that's a second year team option, is

1292
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: it not? Is that what they decided on? But I

1293
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: think that forty seven million, let's call it over two years,

1294
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: so at least there's some certainty. Now I disagree with

1295
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: the task I think, and Trey's been saying this for

1296
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: a very long time. I think he's going to be

1297
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: moved here when he can. Between January fifteenth and the

1298
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: trade deadline. There's gonna be a couple of weeks there,

1299
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Speaker 1: and it's at the point where they'll be happy almost

1300
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: to get sort of anything in return. They want to

1301
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: upgrade their roster, Okay, yeah, no shit, sure, lock everybody does,

1302
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: and it's going to be a role player or something.

1303
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: And a team, again, a bad team is going to

1304
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: see Kaminga and say, look, he could help us score,

1305
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: and given a different opportunity, a different offensive style, not

1306
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: playing with Steph Courrica, we don't have that, he can

1307
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: probably bring something to the table here in a fresh start.

1308
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: So I think he's going to be moved. I don't

1309
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: know for what or really where. But I think it'll

1310
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: be a quote unquote bad team and it's not going

1311
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: to be a whole lot in return, and I think

1312
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: the Warriors will be fine with that.

1313
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 3: At this point, they should try to get Michael Porter

1314
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 3: Junior tool. I mean, the Nets are a team that

1315
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 3: was after Kaminga in the off season, and you can

1316
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 3: make the contracts work. If you throw in Buddy Healed

1317
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 3: as well, then you're getting into a depth problem, I

1318
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 3: think with Golden State. But MPJ would be awesome on

1319
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 3: that team, just a no conscious shooter, right because I

1320
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: got no faith in Kaminga. And I think the Warriors

1321
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 3: kind of botched this situation with the way they handled

1322
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: things over the summer, thinking they were going to change

1323
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 3: the way he played. He can do it for like

1324
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 3: three or four games at a time. He can't do

1325
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: it for the entirety of a season or probably for

1326
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: an entire playoffs.

1327
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way the Nets would be

1328
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: doing that sort of trade Michael Porter Junior.

1329
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: Well, if you get a pick as well, I.

1330
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: Guess Warriors have a little draft capital play with.

1331
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, turn you're basically turning Cam Johnson into

1332
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: half of a season on Michael Porter Junior in two

1333
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 3: future first round picks. That's good managed not bad.

1334
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1335
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, at some point it looks like he's going to

1336
01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 4: go try and be a number one guy for an

1337
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 4: hour their team. I just wonder again what they get

1338
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 4: back right here, right now. They've got all their money

1339
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: invested this year and next year into what they are.

1340
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 4: They want to win, and I get it they could

1341
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 4: use helping them win. So if there is, yeah, but

1342
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 4: you'll be training him for what somebody who does not

1343
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 4: I get it. They went into the postseason last year.

1344
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 4: He air quotes helped because he came off the bench

1345
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 4: and he scored a ton when they needed a players.

1346
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: Is he gonna be able to do that?

1347
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not buying into Kaminga being an incredible player.

1348
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 4: They need a big that is for sure. They lack

1349
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 4: size too, and they're freaking old. And so if somebody

1350
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 4: can help El Horford just eat some friggin minutes and

1351
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 4: pass and shoot the three and rebound, there could be

1352
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 4: that guy. I don't have one in my brain. I

1353
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 4: don't have one that's.

1354
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: Under said. It's not on the Kings, so I don't

1355
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 2: I don't know where it comes from.

1356
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: Nets have a bunch of like young big guys that

1357
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: can maybe help eat innings, like you said during the

1358
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: regular season, being sharp or clacks in or stuff like that. Yeah,

1359
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: final piece of sham slop. Pretty simple. Pacers are in

1360
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: active trade talks around the league to find a center

1361
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: of the future after losing Miles Turner and free agency. Now,

1362
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: there were rumors out of Salt Lake City that Indy

1363
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: had shown interest in Walker Kessler. I saw that name.

1364
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: Obviously he's injured, but task how many buckets of slop

1365
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: for the Pacers wanting to add a long term center.

1366
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 4: They want to add a long term center, so it's

1367
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 4: getting sloppy. Give it five. Yeah, yeah, they want to

1368
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 4: get somebody. I understand they need a shooting center. Ideally

1369
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 4: with Tyrese Halburn when he comes back to plan long

1370
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 4: term plan here, Alburn comes back the way he creates.

1371
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,479
Speaker 4: You know he's going east west. You don't want somebody

1372
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 4: clogg in the lane. I think what they play is

1373
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 4: a team that moves it ideally can shoot it a

1374
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 4: little bit. And the way that their salary structure, they're

1375
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 4: twenty million below the cap next season and they still

1376
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 4: haven't signed Benedict Mathern. So he's going to take them

1377
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 4: close to that. So I think you want somebody who

1378
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 4: you know isn't making a ton of money.

1379
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 2: Walker Kessler, Sure, I could see somebody much money. He's

1380
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: not making much.

1381
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: There's a Jock Landale out there shooting forty three percent

1382
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 4: from three this season, just a capable player for super cheap.

1383
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 4: Because that's why Miles Turner left. He was too expensive

1384
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 4: for this front office.

1385
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: So a Jock you know, or a Kestler, I think

1386
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: they both make sense.

1387
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 3: Well, I mean those are very different players. Yeah, that's

1388
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: like one of them is maybe a long term center

1389
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 3: in Walker Kessler if they can get him do it.

1390
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 3: Jock Landale is a stop gap, I do believe. But

1391
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 3: I think this is like a one bucket a slop myself,

1392
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 3: because I don't think there's a long term center out

1393
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: there for them to get. Maybe they could be a

1394
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: Gaffer team like he would fit nice along Tyrese Haliburton

1395
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 3: when he comes back as a rim runner. But I'm

1396
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 3: with you, task, I think they would want somebody who

1397
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: gave them what Miles Turner did, being able to play

1398
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 3: defensively and stretched the court on the offensive end. Because

1399
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: that's what really made their offense great last year. Not

1400
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 3: to mention, Turner plays with some pretty good speed, So

1401
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just hard to look around the

1402
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 3: league and see a center that could be available, Like

1403
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. Nick Claxton would also be good for them.

1404
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 3: Clowney from the nets, he's not really a center, he's

1405
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 3: more like a power forward. He'd be pretty good. He's

1406
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 3: having a nice season as well. Or maybe they get

1407
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 3: reinvigorated on DeAndre Ayton, who's having a good season with

1408
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 3: the Lakers. I think the Pacers signed him to an

1409
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 3: offer sheet once upon a time to go alongside the

1410
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 3: Deres Halliburton. He's got a little stretchiness into his game,

1411
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 3: not necessarily to the three point line, but you know,

1412
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 3: twenty feet or something like that. I wouldn't want to

1413
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 3: get suckered into it right now. But basically to get

1414
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 3: any sort of player, the Pacers are going to have

1415
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 3: to trade Obi Toppin or TJ McConnell, both players who

1416
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 3: are important to the style they like. Even though Obi

1417
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 3: hasn't been very healthy this year, so I don't think

1418
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: this is going to happen for the Pacers. I don't

1419
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 3: think they'll find a long term center at the trade deadline.

1420
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, shaums, thank you for the slop. We

1421
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Keep the slop coming, my guy. Love bye,

1422
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,959
Speaker 1: litt bite Time for will Bite of the night. Unsullied

1423
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: by sponsorship for a few days, Desmond Baine matched his

1424
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: season high with thirty seven points in the NBA Cup

1425
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: quarterfinals last night. JD, you're killing me?

1426
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 5: Was that?

1427
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 1: I even started adding the name to the rundown JD?

1428
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: Well that might help. Well, you saw the sponsorship yesterday.

1429
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: There was a sponsorship yesterday.

1430
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: It's true.

1431
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: Oh I actually missed that.

1432
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: Sammy J ninety three came through a fortnight nine good.

1433
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 3: That was good.

1434
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 4: Whatever we have had two sponsors us or whatever his

1435
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 4: name was.

1436
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: Wait, wava wavel up again?

1437
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: What was that something like?

1438
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: Anyway? Baine shot fourteen to twenty four six and nine

1439
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 1: from deep, six boards, five assists, one steal in thirty

1440
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: eight minutes.

1441
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: He was good.

1442
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: You were merely adopted in the dark or whatever the

1443
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: fuck it is who gets a ship?

1444
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 3: All right?

1445
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 2: Picking results?

1446
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: We have that? I think we have that?

1447
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: All right?

1448
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm sorry I put all this time into

1449
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: make Hey, I'll stop doing it we stop making it.

1450
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, just came back. I don't know

1451
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: how long is it going to survive? I don't know.

1452
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: Well there's no sponsor, but you told me there was one.

1453
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 3: Yesterday.

1454
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: We're making money, Jay.

1455
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: Three, How much money did we make yesterday? Now we're

1456
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: going we're getting cheaper. It's just whatever.

1457
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 3: Somebody super chests.

1458
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no. We add ten dollars every time.

1459
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was the deal it was. Now we've

1460
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: gone backwards. Okay, so now we'll go back to ten.

1461
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: We'll get ten tomorrow. Non, we'll add ten every time. Okay, Wednesday,

1462
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: pick them? Where were going test?

1463
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 4: Well, nobody wanted to do. Okay, see Phoenix the big line,

1464
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 4: huge line.

1465
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 3: It's like fifteen or something, isn't it so crazy?

1466
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1467
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 4: So we went to the other one, which is a

1468
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 4: fantastic one. Spurs visiting the Lakers. The Lakers favored by

1469
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 4: six and a half. Oh, it feels like a bit

1470
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 4: of a hefty line to me, because I do respect

1471
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 4: the Spurs. Maybe I'm buying in a little too hard,

1472
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 4: but I'm taking them. I'm getting those six points. Oh,

1473
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 4: you guys both have the Lakers here to advance in

1474
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 4: the NBA Cup, a team that has experience in the

1475
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 4: NBA Cups.

1476
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: Experience.

1477
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: Look, look they could advance, but still not cover. You

1478
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: gotta win by seven. Yep, the Lakers for a train

1479
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: I get to w I'm excited for that game.

1480
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no Wemby officially yes, no Wemby too bad.

1481
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: No, smart is a maybe. I think it's going to

1482
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: go through like uh, you know, shoot around or practice

1483
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then sort of being a game time decision.

1484
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: He's going to play.

1485
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 4: People are taking the Lakers because the line's even bigger.

1486
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 4: Now that's seven.

1487
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: Okay, it's ticking up, all right, six and a half

1488
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: for us though, Task has the Spurs, we have the

1489
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: Lakers coming up later. Bulls are back for the final

1490
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: time on playback potentially rest in Peace, playback.

1491
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,440
Speaker 3: Alrip playback, I clipping tools.

1492
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: But you will be on playback confirmed TK for a

1493
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: bulder back today. What's the plan moving forward?

1494
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 3: Great question. I've thought about it. I thought about the

1495
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 3: stream yard, you know. Yeah, it's the same sort of technology.

1496
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, just go live. I mean you're you're already a

1497
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: simulcasting the YouTube anyway. Yeah, yeah, okay, do you have

1498
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: a time for today?

1499
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 3: I probably three pm. I don't got to get a

1500
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 3: haircut today. I just got to live my life.

1501
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: You just kind of haircut.

1502
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 3: I don't got to get a haircut.

1503
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I don't mean yeah, that's what you said.

1504
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 4: That's why he delayed the other way three to four

1505
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 4: see jumpy.

1506
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: Okay, but people were dogs.

1507
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 4: People were asking last night as I was watching games

1508
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 4: on both playback and simulcasts the YouTube, are you guys

1509
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 4: going to keep watching games here on YouTube?

1510
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: Get it? I get well.

1511
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 4: Being a secondary screen, you wouldn't watch the games on

1512
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 4: It wouldn't be like playback.

1513
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 2: You would just watch it elsewhere.

1514
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 4: And just chitty chats basically on YouTube because people use YouTube.

1515
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 4: This one's a little different in that you could just

1516
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 4: keep watching the highlights through stream yard onto YouTube.

1517
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: Anyways, enough of that, but.

1518
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: Bye, Clipper bros.

1519
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 2: It comes here, It comes.

1520
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1521
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,520
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1522
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

1523
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 4: And remember a lot of platforms out there, because im

1524
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 4: G Roberto says, do it on YouTube or discord.

1525
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 2: Just chat on discord.

1526
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 3: Huh. It's the future.

1527
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: Race the day people