1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock That we 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is the 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: show that makes the squares sharper, It makes the wise 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I am joined 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: as always by my co host, my colleague, my companion, 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Mike Padre, my BFF professional better Simon Hunter. 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: I love Simon, Chad. How are we doing, buddy, dude? 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: That was you know, we're talking about the Bears game. Obviously, 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: they looked so good. It looked like they were going 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: to pull it out. I'm a little bit devastated, just 11 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: because I want so much for this team. I want 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: so much for Caleb. I thought this was the best 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: second half he's had as a Bear. He made brilliant throws, 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: he made gutsy throws, except for that last play, which 15 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: was devastating. 16 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah it hurts, buddy, But lucky for you, you're in 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: a line of business where you knew for about five 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: days you were probably gonna lose this game. Let alone 19 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: buy a touchdown. So Vegas strikes again, six and a 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: half lounds right on seven. Doesn't matter how it gets there, 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: it always gets there somehow. So that was a crazy game. 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: I'm right there with your I thought the Bears we're 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: gonna win that game a different, million different ways. Jordan 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: Love kept finding ways and yeah, like you said, it's tough, 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: it's a bad loss. But Caleb has his moments. Man, 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: he meeks plays that. Yeah, You're just like, man, this 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: kid is an absolute stud. So I know it's painful, buddy, 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: but man, what a crazy great game that was. 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to parent right before going on the air, 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to parent. I'm texting with my son. 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: It's like, oh that one, that one sucks, and I'm like, 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: you know what, I love the spirit, good lesson. I'm 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: like trying not to be like mother. God fucking damn it. 34 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: We move on our final five for the first week 35 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: of our final nine week contest with hard Rock Bet 36 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: that we Got launched four today with Jacksonville plus two 37 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: and a half, Cleveland minus three and a half, Jets 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: plus two and a half, New Orleans plus eight and 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: a half in Rams minus nine and a half, So 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: good for US three and two week to start the contest. 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: Couple of gummeas in there that were never really in question. 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: Our last ones out of the mix Baltimore, Buffalo, Atlanta, 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: probably Green Bay. You're ready to get into it, brother, 44 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: all right? India Jacksonville Jacksonville plus two and a half. Look, 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: this game was going our way from the beginning. Jacksonville 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: before Daniel Jones blew out his Achilles looked like the 47 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: better team. They were playing better. I thought Trevor Lawrence 48 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: was having his best game, and like in the first 49 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: quarter on their second TD drive, he had a brilliant 50 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: sort of tier drop past to Brian Thomas Junior. And 51 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: then the one thing we've always gotten on Trevor Lawrence 52 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: for is his touch around the end zone. He throws 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: these lasers instead of sort of finding a nice, easy 54 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: soft landing for the ball into his receiver's hands. Did 55 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: that today with Jakobe Myers. They were running away with it. 56 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: And then Daniel Jones. 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, brutal, brutal day. If you're a Colts fan, Just 58 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: these last couple of weeks, I mean, I guess since 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: the trade deadline, right since they went all in, it 60 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: feels like everything was going wrong. Yeah, yeah, I just 61 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: like you said, it was probably never gonna be in doubt. 62 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: We we had history on our side. It was just 63 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: a crazy day to you for trends. If you fought 64 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: a lot of the trends, we gave out and faded 65 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: us on that Ravens game with the Pittsburgh every like 66 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: every trend, very basic hit came through and this was 67 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: one of them. This Jags team, it's bizarre world. They 68 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: just dominate this Colts team. Doesn't matter if it's Minshew 69 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: or Trevor Lawrence. They keep winning this matchup in this 70 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: games and it's not like a close game, right like 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: you said, they dominated. Where Daniel Jones, if he was playing, 72 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: you saw he's just limited, like his old playing style 73 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: is so limited. Where Trevor Lawrence the good days where 74 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: he has it going, he looks like a number one 75 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 2: pick right running the ball well, get outside the pocket, 76 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: off balance, throws downfield, right on target, just had it 77 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 2: all working. 78 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: The run game was really working to with ETN. So 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: if you're a. 80 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: Jags team, this is a kind of a sleeper team 81 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: where if they play like this in the playoffs, we 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: know there could they could be a good team. Right 83 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: in this AFC, they can be a good team, especially 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: if they keep winning and they somehow get you know, 85 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: some type of home field advantage. So if I was 86 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: a Jacksonan, I'd be happy because most of us don't 87 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: take you serious, but you have real potential where if 88 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is playing within this offense, you see what 89 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: he can do. 90 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: But I'm trying to react because they just have dominated 91 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: this matchup. 92 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: And this was another one we talked about this Colts 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: team tons of money all week being the face and 94 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: this Jags the number just held them and is a 95 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: dog all week. And like you said, it was probably 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: over within the first quarter and a half once thing 97 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 2: On Jones went down. 98 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, then you know, right after Daniel Jones goes down, 99 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor fumbles, the Jags score on twenty five year 100 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: old run by Travis Etn They go up twenty one 101 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: to seven. My only hope was that for the rest 102 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: of the game, Trevor Lawrence did not have to throw 103 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: a pass and he All credit to Trevor Lawrence, all 104 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: credit to Liam Cohne. This team has been different with 105 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers. They have been a significantly different team with 106 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: someone who can run different routes. That makes Liam Cohne 107 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: more comfortable running these in routes that are so key 108 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: to him running his offensive scheme. And good on Trevor Lawrence. 109 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: He's been hitting him in tight windows and he did 110 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: it today. Hit camp Strange for a bunch or Brian 111 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: Strange for a bunch of for a bunch of throws, 112 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: really good catches. They moved the ball downfield like they 113 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: were just impressive. But again, we're not overreacting, we're. 114 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: Not pidding Jackson crazy game. 115 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, one one throw, Trevor Lewanz had a horrible, inaccurate throw. 116 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: Immediately he looks down at his hand as if it 117 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: was the rain's fault, like my hand's wet. That's why 118 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: this ball didn't go exactly where I wanted it to 119 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: go on a simple screen that I overthrew by seventy 120 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: five yards. 121 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you like completed fifty five percent 122 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: of his past So it wasn't like he was incredible, 123 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: but yeah, it was. 124 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: It was he made the throws he had to make, 125 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: and then moments he had to make him he made him. 126 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: And fifty five percent and Driving Rainstorm. We're going to 127 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: get to the other game that was Driving Rainstorm that 128 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: went our way, Tennessee at Cleveland. Maybe we should only 129 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: bet Florida games in Driving rainstorms from now on Tennessee 130 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 1: at Cleveland. Cleveland was a three and a half point favorite. 131 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: We were kind of net like, I can't say we 132 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: were never in it. The Titans in the first quarter 133 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: I think, had one hundred and forty yards and until 134 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: the Browns hit a long screen from Sanders to Quinn 135 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: Shawn Jenkins, they had seventeen yards. So the Browns defense, 136 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: this is what we were betting on, came out very, 137 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: very flat, and yet somehow Chador like made some decent 138 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: throws got this team ahead. They're up seventeen fourteen. It 139 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: was on the It was on a razor's edge of 140 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: this game. Either the Titans were going to do something 141 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: to backdoor it or the Browns were like just so 142 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: close to breaking it open. I think if the Browns 143 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: scoring the touchdown, it's over. The Titans aren't going to 144 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: be able to get close to the number in this. 145 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: But it went the other way. 146 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: Chad, what the hell if you're so lucky this is 147 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: the holiday season. I'm so mad at you. Your job 148 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 2: is not to let me bet these damn Titan games. 149 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: And everyone. 150 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: We tried, dude, we tried to talk ourselves out of it. 151 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: This morning you stop me from putting this in. You 152 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 2: you have the power. Now you're putting it. And luckily, 153 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: in our other contest, the one we were holding onto, 154 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: I didn't let us put it in that one. But 155 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: for somehow, in this one that I care more about 156 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: now because our own contest, you let me put it in. 157 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. I told you I cannot get a read. 158 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: Whatever I say, the option will happened. We'll get to 159 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pittsburgh game. But I'm I'm banning us legit. 160 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: I like, I'm gonna kill you if you make if 161 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: you let us play in this Titans team again. But 162 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm just like, when I drove the field like I got, 163 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: the announcers said like, oh, they haven't scored an opening 164 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: drive touchdown all season, and then they did yeah, and 165 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: You're just like, what do we Why did we do this? Sanders? 166 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: He has an insane day through for three hundred and 167 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: sixty four yards three touchdowns and we still lose this bet. 168 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: So just absolutely atrocious and hating myself every second watching 169 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: that game. I just once again bet at Tennessee Titans 170 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: game and lost a ton of money. Just huge net 171 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: negative in every way for me being involved. So yeah, 172 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: just I honestly I might not even talk about it 173 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: and just meete my mic next week and let Chad 174 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: say it every once about whatever Titans game there is. 175 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I think Sandro Sanders threw. His 176 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: numbers in this game were insane, But if you look 177 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: at it compared to cam Ward, I think they basically 178 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: had the same number of completions. He just had a 179 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: couple of crazy, crazy long throws the one to Judkins, 180 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: there was a long one to Jerry Judy. It was 181 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: pretty nuts. I think he also held the ball for 182 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: an average of three hundred and sixty four seconds on 183 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: just about every time he dropped back, including the play 184 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: that kind of ended the game, like he had a 185 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: play hung the ball forever, hung out of the ball forever, 186 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: almost was like standing still waiting for the rush to 187 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: get to him, and then just flug it, flung it 188 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: into triple coverage in the middle of the field. The 189 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: Titans intercept it, and the next play, the next play 190 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: is Tony Pollard running for what sixty five yards and 191 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: a touchdown. So you know that was before the end 192 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: of the third and that went from seventeen fourteen Browns 193 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: to twenty one seventeen Titans, and then it just sort 194 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: of crated from there. And it's just even the Browns defense, 195 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: which which deserves a lot of the blame today, all 196 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: of it could not could not stop anything. 197 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: It was. 198 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: It was atrocious, honestly atrocious. 199 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: Once again, Shudor Sandiers threw for three hundred and fifty 200 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: yards in an NFL game. I know you could piece 201 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: it any way you want that. The fact that he 202 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: did that we lost this bet is just blowing my mind. 203 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: And you just nailed it, Pollard. He dominated this game. 204 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: Tennessee bullied that Cleveland team, which was just the most 205 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: shocking part of that whole game. Like cam Moore comes 206 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: in here, throws fourteen of twenty eight passes and has 207 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty yards and we lose this bet. 208 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: I just again, I can't get over when I look 209 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: at the numbers, it's just doesn't make sense. 210 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: It makes no sense. 211 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: It does when you back way and you realize Cleveland's 212 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: just a very bad team, and you know it's it's 213 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: late December. Bad teams just sometimes laid down, and you 214 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: saw if you just take it out a little bit 215 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: like Tennessee wanted a little more today. They bullied them 216 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: on that, like, I cannot believe Pollot ran for one 217 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty four yards. So yeah, hats off Tennessee, 218 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: a team we truly cannot get right. 219 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: It's incredible they. 220 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: Really did bully him. It was embarrassing. And it was 221 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: like a game where a team from the South coming 222 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: into Cleveland into the dog pound against that defense in 223 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: winter weather should not have had a chance to win 224 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: that game to and they like they just they blew 225 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: them off the field from the beginning of the game 226 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: in the first quarter, and it changed the entire and 227 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: outlook for this team. Another game that was pretty much 228 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: dead from from the second it kicked off. Miami and 229 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. The Jets plus two and a half, 230 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: the two teams that we were so sure of all week, 231 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: which seems to be a trend this year. The teams 232 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: that were like in later are the teams that we 233 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: end up winning with, and the teams were like in 234 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: early end up being the ones that do us wrong. Unfortunately, 235 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: this was never neither of these teams. Well, Cleveland almost 236 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: wasn't in contention forgetting that. The Jets never were the 237 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: Dolphins easily moved down in the field for a touchdown 238 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: on their first draft, easily moved down the field for 239 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: a touchdown on their second drive. So now they've got 240 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: two touchdowns in less than seven minutes. Next series, Jets 241 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: get picked off inside their own territory off of a 242 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: bobbled dropped pass. Dolphins score again. They're out. They're up 243 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: twenty one to nothing. This is before the first quarter's over. 244 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: But then, really before the first quarter is over, the 245 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Jets get a brilliant punt return from Isaiah Williams, who, 246 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: by the way, this is a beautiful story, Simon, are 247 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: you ready for some beauty in the ugliness? You ready? 248 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: Your brother? Were Gus Johnson moment. 249 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: Isaiah Williams, who muffed punt in the first game against 250 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: the Dolphins in Week four, got waived, then came back 251 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: on the practice squad returned a punt for a touchdown 252 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: to make a twenty one seven. The Jets still never 253 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: came close in this game because then Tyrod Taylor got 254 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: knocked out. Brady Cook, did you watch any of it? Nope, 255 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: you didn't watch a play of it. 256 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: I probably saw that opening touchdown you talked about out 257 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: of the corner of my eye, and I was just like, well, 258 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: that's probably a dead bet because we talked about like 259 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: leading up to it felt like we were hitting on 260 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: Black one more time. We probably shouldn't have. We just 261 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: we kept hitting it on the rolete wheel and yeah, 262 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's a type of game where that 263 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: Jets team if I feel like if Taylor was there, 264 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: there was a possibility of a comeback. Like you said, 265 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: once you got knocked out, they' bringing them back up, 266 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: and it's just totally dead. And Miami, you know, talking 267 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: about bullying a team. They ran for over two hundred 268 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: and thirty yards, so dominated. 269 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: Then that was without by the way, yeah you. 270 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: Got banged up. So just like you know, Tua here 271 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: has not done anything, it feels like for a couple 272 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: of weeks. So I don't know this Miami team, like 273 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: we've I talked about coming in this game, they've been 274 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,359 Speaker 2: winning a lot of games, which is pretty impressive, just because. 275 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: We all thought they'd quit on this team. 276 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: And you know, six and seven for this team is 277 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: pretty shocking because they were and they basically have had 278 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: a run where they lost to the Ravens Jead and 279 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: then they beat Buffalo, Washington, the Saints, and the Jets. 280 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: So Buffalo is a tough win. 281 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: But the rest of those teams, you know, they're not great, 282 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: but still, I mean, you're talking about team that was 283 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: in dire straits and now they've won four straight. Pretty 284 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: impressive coaching job down there. So yeah, there's tons of 285 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: credits to the Dolphins. Like we said, we thought they're 286 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: going to fall through here, they won this one. Now 287 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: they're on the road again, heading to Pittsburgh next week. 288 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were. They were winning this one from the beginning. 289 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: All they had to do was hold on because once 290 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: Brady Cook came in, the Jets offense could do nothing. 291 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: They he fumbled one of his first snaps on a 292 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: third and one. They then had to punt. He threw 293 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: a pick when they were in the red zone, easy 294 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: pick into the Dolphins end zone that killed a drive. 295 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: At the end of the half, the Dolphins were trying 296 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: to do nothing like It's almost like they were continuing 297 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: the playbook that they had against the Saints the week before, 298 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: where the Saints were able to get in the back door. 299 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: I kept hoping, like maybe this is it. You just 300 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: need like one more play, one more play, and you 301 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: can maybe squint and see it, and they just couldn't 302 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: get a play. Brady Cook was terrible, as to be expected. 303 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Nothing on him. They were dropping passes everywhere. It was 304 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: just I took that one out of the Milti view 305 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: before it was over. That's all I'm gonna say, because 306 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: you know what I wanted to focus on the New 307 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. I told you this morning it took a 308 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: little taste of the money line, a little leg burrita 309 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: bold taste in the money line of the New Orleans Saints. 310 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: At plus eight and a half against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 311 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: this game kind of played out exactly the way their 312 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: first one had in the first half. Remember in the 313 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: first half. We talked about this morning, like the score 314 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: was seven to three in the first half of the 315 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: first time they played, and the only reason the Bucks 316 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: had seven was because of an interception. Right in this 317 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: game it was ten to seven. The only reason the 318 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: Bucks had seven was because of an interception. And then 319 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: the Saints. Did you watch this game? 320 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: Of course, it was, uh, my Sharper square bet is 321 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: on of my favor bets this week. 322 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. What did you think, what did 323 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: you think of this game? 324 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: Just another game where it's hard to take much away 325 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: for it because of the weather. But we talked a 326 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: little bit going into it, how this kid Shuck, you know, 327 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: has some weaknesses about darsal strainths to his game and 328 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: this game basically, anytime we need to make a play 329 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: with those legs, they made it played with his legs 330 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: for us so great. We weren't banking on him having 331 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: seven carries fifty five yards to two touchdowns, but that's 332 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: what he gave us. And you know, we knew it 333 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: was gonna be bad weather. We talked how this Bucks 334 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: defense is a little suspect. 335 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 3: I was really honestly shocked by how bad Baker played. 336 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 2: I know, again once again the weather was bad, but 337 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 2: you know, Baker looking at his numbers here, fourteen completions 338 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 2: out of thirty attempts, one hundred and twenty two yards. 339 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: That's insane. How bo petry that is. And I mecha 340 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: Buca as incredible as he's been. We talked about he's 341 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 2: really cool off these last year six weeks and took 342 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 2: the show to studies. Had one touchdown these last five games, 343 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: and you just think to yourself, Okay, they're just offensively 344 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: not clicking. And in this game, the Saints game, a 345 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: couple opportunities to get back into it and couldn't capitalized right. 346 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: A couple of times they went for an all fourth 347 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: down got stuffed in the run game, and two of 348 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: those were crucial like midfield plays. So yeah, yeah, great, 349 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: great bet on the Saints team. And we talked about 350 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: that crazy trend the Saints team in Division now nine 351 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: and oh on the road as an under dogs. It's 352 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: been a hell of a run for this scen seemed 353 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: just being continually undervalued in the market. So yeah, that 354 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: we didn't expect the Shuck game, but we expect him 355 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: to keep being a guy that I think the polk 356 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: underrate where he's not that bad for a rookie, Like 357 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: you're looking at those rookie class you know, as much 358 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: as respect as we're giving to cam Ward or store 359 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: standards right now, Shuck has been on a really bad team, 360 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 2: playing really well for a couple of weeks as well, 361 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: So he's kind of a sleeper guy I think for 362 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year that we'll see how the end 363 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: of the season here, but I think he's been playing 364 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: just the same high level as those guys as. 365 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was amazing, foreshadowing he might be 366 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: one of our heroes of the week, so I give 367 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: more depth to his stats and sort of it was incredible, 368 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: pulling the curtain back a little bit because, like you said, 369 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't the prettiest game, but what he did when 370 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: he did it. 371 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: Was I when you saw that rain coming down sideways, 372 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're watching. 373 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: It was literally at. 374 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: One point they couldn't even show they were showing beat 375 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: of the sideline. He couldn't even keep his eyes up 376 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: so hard it was. 377 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: It was. It was brutal. But look the Bucks, like 378 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 1: you said, they turned it over on downs three different 379 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: times and they could not stop the Saints on third 380 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: down in the last last couple of drives. So super 381 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: impressive game by the Saints, whose defense played really really well. 382 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: Obviously start even like in that second half when they 383 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: really started to roll, starting off with picking off Baker 384 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: two and a half minutes into the second half, he just, 385 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, one of his receivering with Ted Johnson just 386 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: didn't finish the pattern and was supposed to keep going 387 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: and he stopped and Baker threw it right to a 388 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: Saint defensive back, and the Saints scored on that drive, 389 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they're leading the game and 390 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: they were in control for the rest of it. So 391 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: good for the Saints, and by the way, good for 392 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. Like this team has been competitive all season long. 393 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: They've been a tough out, so you know, I don't 394 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: know if people were skeptical of Kellen Moore and him 395 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: getting hired, but he's done a pretty nice job. 396 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: And I talked about it last week. My favorite schedule 397 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: left where the Carolina Panthers, who are at the Saints 398 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 2: next week. Yeah, they go Bucks Seahawks Bucks. Yeah. I 399 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: love when the schedule breaks that way for certain divisions, 400 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: and this is just the best like that. There is 401 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: a two and two, three and one path there. So 402 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: it's really exciting if you're a Panthers fanning, just like 403 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: we've been people that bet on them every year and 404 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: for them. 405 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: Won the division. I think it might finally come through Chad. 406 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: We'll see seven and six, seven and six. It's it's crazy, 407 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: it's phenomenal. It's great. They're playing each other twice in 408 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: the next four weeks. Los Angeles Rams, we were betting 409 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: them early in the week when they were seven and 410 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: a half point favorites against the Cardinals. It closed at 411 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: nine and a half. 412 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 2: Ten. They actually got a bet all the way down 413 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: to like seven and a half before kick. 414 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: Oh it didn't ever even see that. 415 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 2: Okay, so a ton of late profession. When money came 416 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: on Arizona they got smoked. 417 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: Well that's too bad, because we decided last minute, you know, 418 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: in a rare moment of clarity and common sense, where 419 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: we didn't let the numbers scare us off. You had 420 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: been you know, hammering. We got to take the Rams 421 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: in this spot all week. 422 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: We knew all those injuries that we talked about Sunday morning, and. 423 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: So even though it moved from seven and a half 424 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: to nine and a half in the contest, we hit 425 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: the Rams. And there was about five minutes where I 426 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: was worried, and then I wasn't worried anymore. 427 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: You in the books, I couldn't believe it, Like I'm 428 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: in the book, and the line moves a five and 429 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: a half live after that touchdown opening drive by the Cardinals, 430 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, man, I gotta go hit this window again. 431 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: I mean, how are they gonna give you a five 432 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: and a half on this Rams line. And you just 433 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: saw that Rams team. It was just what we talked 434 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: of the perfect spot after a bad loss on the road. 435 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: McVeigh owns the month of December always gots his guys 436 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: that got them prepared, and that was a very unique 437 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: spot for them. And we've talked this area was in 438 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: a team they've they've been in a lot of dog 439 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: fights when they play these Juggernauts in their own division. 440 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: They've just gotten smoked these last three games. So yeah, uh, 441 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: it's probably one of the hardest divisions of all football. 442 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: And yeah, Arizona's going into total reboot mode. So it's, 443 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: you know, a type of team where you're just goin 444 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 2: have to burn it all down, right, like that defense 445 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: has so many holes, so many issues, And watching that 446 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: Rams game today, they just felt like they could have 447 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: done whatever they wanted offensively anytime. So it's it's wild 448 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: like watching the Rams watching the Seahawks as an Eagles fan, 449 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: it's just like, how can we compete with these guys? 450 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: They just seem like they're on totally different levels right 451 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 2: now in the NFC, So really really impressive what the 452 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: Rams did today, well. 453 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: The Rams could do whatever they wanted to right in 454 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: the first half, they scored on all four of their drives. Yeah, 455 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: Stafford end of the game with three touchdowns. He was 456 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: pulled with eleven minutes left. At one point, Stafford was 457 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: twelve for twelve in the first half. They had one 458 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: third down. It was in the middle of a drive 459 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: in which they scored a touchdown. In the first half alone, 460 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty yards on thirty six plays, averaging 461 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: nine point two yards per play just in the first half. 462 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: It was it was like, it was so extreme it 463 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: was obnoxious. In his last twenty games, this is a 464 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: crazy stat. In his last twenty games, Matthew Stafford has 465 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: forty six touchdown passes. How many how many interceptions do 466 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: you think he has? 467 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: Six? 468 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: Five? 469 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, he's been incredible. 470 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: That's insane. 471 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: And it's unique for them where they basically had Detroit 472 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 2: the Seahawkcy's next two games, which is like, you know, 473 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 2: obviously really tough two playoff teams. Yeah, yeah, and then 474 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: they get Atlanta in Arizona then the season. So I'll 475 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: interest to see what he's gonna be like for MVP, 476 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: because to me, obviously Tim or Drake Bay. They just 477 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 2: both in playing at a really high level all season. 478 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: So we'll see if Drake make a keep it up 479 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: because this is really going to be the true test December. 480 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: And on the flip side, I gave you all the 481 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: stats McVay. He just his teams get better in this month, 482 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: so you assume if you could still get him on 483 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: their minds two hundred, Stafford feels like are pretty safe. 484 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: But at this point, if he stays healthy, he's just 485 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: been so oppressive. 486 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: There was a minute it was forty five ten. I 487 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: think Arizona had just scored it. It was forty five seventeen, 488 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: and they bring in Jimmy Garoppolo. 489 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: And yeah, there's like eleven minutes in the fourth quarter. 490 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Eleven minutes in the fourth quarter, and I think the 491 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: first play it's a delay a game. The second play 492 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: it's an illegal shift, and I'm like, oh my god, 493 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are going to find a way to cover 494 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: this game. I was like, I was doing the math 495 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: in my head. I'm like, can they score three more 496 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: touchdowns right now? I'm like, you never know if they 497 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: if they let Jimmy throw it, maybe there's a pick 498 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, this thing, you know, turns 499 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: into a track meet for eleven minutes. Thank freaking God, 500 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: because my heart couldn't have taken it, not with the 501 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: Bears game going on on the other side. Quick word 502 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: from our friends at hard rock Bet, because the games 503 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: on the other side of this were truly insane. Today's 504 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, our 505 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: hard Rock Bet. 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But you know, 539 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: there was mostly wise guys on Cincinnati. Our debate all 540 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: week was how is either defense going to stop anybody 541 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 1: in this game? In the fourth quarter there were thirty 542 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: four points scored. There are games that are drunk, and 543 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: then there are games that are drunk that also dipped 544 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: into the alley, probably shot up some smack and maybe 545 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: when they got back to the table at the wedding, 546 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: they did like seven lines of coke. And that's what 547 00:27:53,920 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: this game was. It was totally just completely Belushi esque, unhinged. 548 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: It was insane. Poor Matt Mitchell, Oh my. 549 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: God, Yeah, ye're right, poor man Mitchell. He's the luckiest 550 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: man that happen. Josh now as a quarterback. But it's 551 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: the best. It's like, you know, there's always certain games 552 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: where you just fall in love with football over again. 553 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: I just as soon as that game kicked off and 554 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: you saw the snow, there's just nothing like And I'm 555 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: so glad their new stadium's open roof. It's Yeah, there's 556 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 2: just something about Buffalo in the elements and yeah, we 557 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: were you nad it with what you talked about with 558 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: the Bengals where the number is probably too big with 559 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and we've given it out now. I think 560 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: it's now nineteen and three when Joe Burrow is a 561 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: dog over a three or greater. 562 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: So just a crazy stab baby. 563 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: I just have to start blindly betting it because it 564 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: just keeps hitting every week. And you know this Bills team. Honestly, 565 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: not to say the game went that way I thought 566 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: it was, but it did. Like I thought the Bills 567 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: would get down like they did against Tampa and they 568 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: would come back score and then get some fluky late 569 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: touchdown to cover the number. And you know, Joe Bill 570 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: didn't do what I thought he was gonna do, which 571 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: is this close go three and out. Oh my god. 572 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: Like you didn't deserve it though, if you had the 573 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: Bills where like we had, we got really luck. We 574 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: had Bills in our another contest of four and a half. Yeah, 575 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: like when you win, anytime you win a contest, line 576 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: it when the two doesn't hit the two pointer. It's 577 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: honestly the best, it really is, there's nothing more sickening 578 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: when it goes against you. When it does hit and 579 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: they missed the two pointer. It's the best. But I 580 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: know people hate their coach. The Bills fans, they're they're 581 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: they're like most fans where they just hate their coach 582 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: and him not kicking that field goal to put them 583 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: up seven and going for the touchdown and fourth down. 584 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: I love it because people in. 585 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: The moment are like, I don't like this call where 586 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: it's like I think he gets it, where it's like Joe, 587 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: Joe's not. Joe's not going down in this game. He's 588 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: gonna come back and get a touchdown if he gets 589 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: that ball back. So that was a gutsy call on 590 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: fourth down, trusting your quarterback, and he made an insane 591 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: play where he's drifting back and you're never in doubt 592 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: where it's like someone's gonna get open whenever he drifts 593 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: back like that. Josh Allen always just find someone wide 594 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: open in the back of the end zone, and he 595 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: did and put them up two scores, and just Joe 596 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: can only do so much. And you know. 597 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: All the stats up there. We've talked about it. 598 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: When Joe Flacco took over whatever happened between Joe Flacco 599 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: and that O line, it's carried over with Burrow. Since 600 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: he's been back, they've been way better protecting the quarterback. 601 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: And he saw it today like even where he had 602 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: a little bit of pressure, he was never uncomfortable. Felt 603 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: like Joe Burrow and played a great game. But unfortunately 604 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: for him, he just ran into Josh Allen. And you know, 605 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: Josh is waits, reality waits for you to have those turnovers, 606 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: and those two really fluky bat turnovers by Joe Burrow 607 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: just cost him the game. So pretty pretty insane game 608 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: on both sides. Like I said, I'm happy to get 609 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: there with the Bill's money line, but anyone out that 610 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: had the Bengals number you deserve the cover. They were 611 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: covering that entire game. 612 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: Bills were down twenty eight to eighteen midway through their 613 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: fourth They had no business coming close to covering five 614 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: and a half or six at all. And then Josh 615 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: Allen does what Josh does, fifty yard touchdown run untouched 616 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: against the defense that we thought, all right, how are 617 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: they going to stop the run? They're probably not going 618 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: to be able to turns out at the end they 619 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: couldn't stop the run the next series, just to give 620 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: some details for people who didn't get a chance to 621 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: see it to what Simon was talking about. The next series, 622 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: the Bills are down twenty eight to twenty five. Joe 623 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: Burrow first pass, pick six, So now the Bills are 624 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: up thirty two to twenty eight. Next series, next pass, 625 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow throws another pick. That's where the Bills get 626 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: down to the goal line and on fourth down, instead 627 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: of kicking the field goal to put them up seven 628 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: and give them the cover with time left, they go 629 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: for the touchdown. They get it. So now they're up 630 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: thirty eight twenty eight, I think, right, So, no, they're up. 631 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: They go in. 632 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: They're eleven. 633 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: They were up eleven. They converted, They converted to take 634 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: an eleven point lead. There's three minutes left. They had 635 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: twenty one points in the spat of about four game minutes. 636 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow goes down the field for a touchdown. He 637 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: went back for It was four plays, sixty six yards, 638 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: fifty seconds on the clock. That's insane, absolutely insane. So 639 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals cover. The Bengals cover that game. Truly a 640 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: miracle of a game, so much fun in the snow, 641 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: like you said, it's it's just a true football fans game. 642 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: Like you could barely see Joe Burrow in the snow 643 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: when they were doing close ups. It was awesome. Pittsburgh 644 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: at Baltimore. This was our brass balls, more like brass bands, 645 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: brains signon because we got everything wrong about this one. 646 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: The Steelers came out throwing NonStop Aaron Rodgers downfield to 647 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. They were reborn in Baltimore. He was scrambling, 648 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: He had a rushing touchdown, keeping drives alive. He had 649 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty four yards and a touchdown pass 650 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: Metcalf one hundred and forty eight yards receiving. What is 651 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: this Ravens team going to do right now? And one 652 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: of the questions we have, Let'll make sure I'm getting 653 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: the name right here from I think it's TRX TRX, 654 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,239 Speaker 1: maybe it's tricks in the YouTube comments. Right now? What 655 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: is Baltimore do going forward? Their defense isn't getting better 656 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: like it did last year. Lamar doesn't look great. He 657 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: had some moments, but this team just is not producing. 658 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: And now they're six and seven. They might not make 659 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They got probably got to win their division 660 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. They're the Dolphins. 661 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, this could be a sliding doors moment that Isaiah 662 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: likely is it a catch and a touchdown not a 663 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: catch not a touchdown moment? So true, it will forever 664 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: carry wait and then football is stupid. It comes down 665 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: of those moments. But that's a total change, game changer 666 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: where you know the amount of people that sent me 667 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: stuff this week of basically this girl who was hooking 668 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: up with a guy on the Ravens has been putting 669 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: out all this info from behind the scenes, stuff like 670 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 2: real stuff, and it's been verified, like she's been posting 671 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: really interesting stuff. But basically the whole team hates Horrible 672 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: and people are like, well that's just some bitter X 673 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And it's like she's sending she's showing 674 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 2: texts and she recorded stuff, and it's like hitting the 675 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: whole next level. Ravens fans are going crazy where I 676 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: think they already kind of wanted Horrible out, and now 677 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: that they know that the players potentially hate them and 678 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: there's got semi mutiny in there, it just adds to it. 679 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 3: But I just they're they're horrible defensively. 680 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: I mean, how many stats. Do we give U about 681 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers pushing the ball downfield? Today? The man could 682 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: not miss. He was in full, full beast mode, and 683 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: you know we got got I'm just so embarrassed where it's. 684 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 3: Like I blind me so upset with us. 685 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I blindly bet this dog in this matchup every 686 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: year of my professional career and just rarely get picked 687 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 2: the losses. And it's just like, well, even if it 688 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: does lose, who cares that means next year it's guaranteed it. 689 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: And got sucked into it because Lamar has been covering 690 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: these big numbers their last two matchups and just totally 691 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 2: went the other way. All the voodoo Pittsburgh Tomlin voodoo. 692 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: That's what makes him so special. Again, he's getting run 693 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: out of town right now. They are seven and six 694 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 2: at top of their division. Right again. I know Eagles 695 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 2: fans are the most insane fan base, but Pittsburgh fans 696 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 2: take a breath, You're it's just this is what he does. 697 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: So I'm so mad at ourselves. I can't believe we 698 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: gave up on him. We got the best of us. 699 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm so so disappointed in us that we talked ourselves 700 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: out of this that we let ourselves be fooled by 701 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: what we had seen that we didn't do what we 702 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: always do, that we didn't play this professionally. We just 703 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: didn't play it professionally. That was the problem. Bad badness, 704 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: bad bad badness. And like you know, here's from Joe 705 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: Connolly in the chat right now, Mike Tomlin is a 706 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: good coach, so maybe they can maybe he can go 707 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: coach the Bills. 708 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 3: Well, like if he gets fired. 709 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, like people people always complained about Sean. 710 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 2: I think it's just again, they're there, their organization. They 711 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 2: just don't fire people, so. 712 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: I don't want them to fire them. We talked about 713 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: the second day. 714 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: But it's just I get where their fans are coming from. 715 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 2: They just want something different. Everyone wants to change in life. 716 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 2: But as someone that got rid of a Hall of 717 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: Fame coach, as an Eagles fan and Andy Reid, I 718 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 2: get it, like any Reid had to go and it 719 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: worked out for both parties. You want two Super Bowls 720 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 2: since he's won three or four, so it worked out. 721 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: But the back of my mind, I'm just like Tomlin, Pittsburgh, 722 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: you want to move on from Tomlin. I don't know 723 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: if that's the move it's really you just need. What 724 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: you do need is him to get suspended for a 725 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: year and like some type of spygate thing, go three 726 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: and whatever. 727 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate Tomlin that appreciate him. 728 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 2: And also get the quarterback like you. Just like your 729 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 2: guy Mendoza. I would love for him to have fallen 730 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: to them at the end of the first maybe early second. 731 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 2: He's probably gonna be like a top three, top five 732 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: pick now because he's such a clutch, high level player 733 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: with a great body. I mean, I know that interview 734 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 2: didn't do him too great, but still I love it. 735 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: I just think he's a really greedy kid. So I 736 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 2: just Pittsburgh. They're a quarterback away once again, but they 737 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: might win the division somehow at eight and nine, nine 738 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 2: and eight. 739 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 3: It's just bizarre world. 740 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm a little tired of the interviews with Fernando Mendoza. 741 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: I've watched all of them after every game. 742 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 3: It's like that was my first one chat. 743 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: I was shocked. 744 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 3: I had not heard that kids speak, and I was 745 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 3: very taken back. 746 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: They're too practiced. And two it's almost like he's running 747 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: for something, and because they'll immediately stir into the camera, 748 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: he says the same thing every time. I am not 749 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: against people giving all glory to God, give it to 750 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: give it to whomever you want to give it to. 751 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: But it's a little bit too rehearsed for me. 752 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 2: And that was from him his voice cracking and him 753 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: being so excited. I was just like, Oh my god, 754 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: I can't believe this is this killer clutch kid who 755 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 2: like literally got murdered in this first place. 756 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: Did get murdered. 757 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so tough, and I not believe. Again I'd 758 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: not heard the kids speak. I was just so taken back. 759 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: But obviously you're used to him being all rehearsed and 760 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 2: saying the same thing that over again. 761 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 3: But my god, I was loving it. I rewatched that Sid. 762 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: Couldn't get enough flippin' You watch that flipping interview four 763 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 1: or five different times. 764 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 3: I was like, man, I hope the Jets draft this kid. 765 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 2: I love him. I want to see how he handles 766 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 2: New York media. 767 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: That's my quarterback for now for now. Uh yeah, they'd 768 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: be crazy to fire Mike Tomlin. How about you just 769 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: get Mike Tomlin. Some players that are under thirty and 770 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: maybe have more than one season rentals tied to their 771 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: contracts and get him a real roster so you can 772 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: actually compete in the AFC, which is so freaking competitive 773 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: right now, because they're getting past and it's not because 774 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: of their coach, it's because of their roster. 775 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: Once again, this man's about the one division where the 776 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 2: quarterbacks are Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow. Who's gonna win 777 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers Potentially? 778 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: It just came a Repperhader aud. 779 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't sound real. 780 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,720 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, they were six and a half point dogs 781 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: today and man, in the first half, they had seventy 782 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: one total yards and it was the lowest amount of 783 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: yards for any Ben Jones Ben Johnson coached or coordinated 784 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: team during his time as a coach and coordinator. And 785 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: then I was in the tex chain with the boys, 786 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: and I said, I feel like they're just beaten down 787 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: the defense. They're just trying to get them tired, get 788 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: them feeling like it's going to be an Exis Austin matchup. 789 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: And in the second half, that's exactly what they did, 790 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: like they were just running it down their throats. They 791 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: had that seventeen play, eighty three yard drive eight and 792 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: a half minutes, they tie the game. They forget how 793 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: to tackle Josh Jacobs on a third down where they 794 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: could have stopped him from getting the fourth down. Instead, 795 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: the Packers scored that touchdown. Why Simon, why did Ben 796 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 1: Johnson not just call a running play when they've been 797 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: running it down their throats except for that one time 798 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: right before that. Why did Caleb not just run for 799 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: the first down? Why? 800 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: Why? 801 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: Why? 802 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 2: It's easy to ask that after the fact, but I 803 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 2: just you got the coach man. 804 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 3: I just can't get over how good of a coach is. 805 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: And this was the type of game where you guys 806 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 2: should have got smoked. It was looking that way, like 807 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 2: you said, first half, going exactly how honestly I thought 808 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 2: I was going to go, Which is just you guys 809 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 2: are a very fun story. You've been punching above your 810 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 2: weight for weeks now, and I just cannot get I 811 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: was not cut up to you. And once again this 812 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: game you almost got away with it because it's just 813 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 2: that run scheme is incredible and just wears teams out 814 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 2: and on the flip side of the offense can never 815 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: get into our rhythm because they're just sitting there. But 816 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 2: Jordan Love in these matchups, it's yeah, he makes big 817 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 2: time throws and like again something to have money on 818 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 2: him today. It feels so good when you're on that 819 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 2: side where it is he is cooking that way, and 820 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 2: you know, Josh Jacobs is making insane plays and it's 821 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 2: all hitting. But I just I think we're all in agreement. 822 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: I just cannot trust this green Bay team. I don't 823 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 2: know how I'm gonna bet on them come January. There's 824 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 2: just something off about this team. There's something missing, so 825 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: so weird. 826 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: You say that it's so weird because they were throwing 827 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: these stats up during the game, you know, green Bay 828 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: tops and third down conversion, green Bay tops in the 829 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: red zone. It was it was one other thing that 830 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: green Bay was number one in. And I said to myself, so, 831 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: why is this team not thirteen and out? Why is 832 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: this team so in? But I mean, like, why is 833 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: this team so inconsistent? Why do I feel like for 834 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: a team that is dominating in the most important stats. Oh, 835 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: and I think they had the fewest turnovers for the 836 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: team that is dominating in the most important stats that 837 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: for any other team. It feels like when they are 838 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: winning in those situations, they are you know, ten and 839 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: two eleven in one it's clear Jordan Love would be 840 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: the MVP in the NFL, and they just don't feel 841 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: like a team that puts it all together every single game, 842 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: every single time. Now they've got two good wins, you know, 843 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks between the Lions and the 844 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: Bears and the division. But I agree with you, like 845 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: I trust the Rams, I trust the Seahawks a lot 846 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 1: more than I trust the Packers right now. 847 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, which again that's not a bad that's not a 848 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: bad company being. They're definitely the third team in the 849 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 2: NFC right now, and they've earned it like they're one 850 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 2: in this division. They're going to Denver next week, which 851 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 2: again another great spot to find more out about Jordan 852 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 2: Love and this offense against a good defense on the road. 853 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 2: But they're just something a little off. For it's just 854 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 2: the they have such good receivers, everyone is healthy today, 855 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 2: Like they have such good weapons with Jacobs back there. 856 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 2: But I don't know, just something about this team where 857 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 2: I'm just like something's a little off. Where like you said, 858 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: it feels like they should be more dominant and they're 859 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 2: just not. So another sleeper team though that coming to 860 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 2: the NFC, it's wide open. Could easily see the Packers 861 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 2: making that type of run. We've seen Jordan Love have 862 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 2: plat success. But it's an interesting team where they they 863 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 2: just feels something like they're off, but huge, huge win 864 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: for them. Where you know the Bears, like you just 865 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 2: said that pick at the end there, I don't know 866 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 2: we were joking, but we're having a real discussion. Are 867 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: they're going to go for two here? Because we all 868 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 2: felt like the Bears were that playing that well, Caleb 869 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: was having that big time of throws that they were 870 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 2: going to score with whatever the twenty seconds left. But yeah, 871 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 2: it's a big, big time step up by the defense 872 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 2: to get that turnover that has really save Green Band 873 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: in a lot of games this year. 874 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: Impressive, impressive, all right, simon, give me your shame on you. 875 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 2: Shame on you NFL red zone for something we're paying for. 876 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 2: They promised us maybe one to two thirty second commercials 877 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 2: last week, then bombarded us with commercials, and if I 878 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 2: wasn't so upset about the refs, I was definitely gonna 879 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 2: say something and then I moved on my left, I go, 880 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 2: you know what, it won't be this bad this week. 881 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: They've heard from the fans even worse. So there was 882 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 2: some crazy Static couldn't listen through Red Zone for the 883 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 2: first fifteen minutes of the game because he had some 884 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 2: crazy you know whatever. It was connection to the microphones 885 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 2: and tons of feedback and then the commercials, and I'm 886 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 2: thinking to myself, so we're paying for something that doesn't 887 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: work right the one seventeen or eighteen weeks we need 888 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 2: to work right. And they're more throwing more ads. And 889 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 2: again I'm not trying to crush Scott here because it's 890 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 2: my job to shit on these people behind mics, but 891 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 2: he just there was a couple of times so they 892 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 2: cut to him and he seems totally lost, And it's 893 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 2: just what. 894 00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 3: Has happened to my product. 895 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 2: The good old days, A Red Zone was great and 896 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 2: I'd have the volume on that end Today. Again, I 897 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 2: don't watch tons of four box TVs. When I get 898 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 2: back to my place before we do the show, I 899 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 2: like to put it on. There was other times where 900 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 2: I just switch over to the games listen to broadcasters, 901 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 2: which is rare. Usually I listen to Scott. So it's 902 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: just shame, shame, shame on you on Red Zone. I 903 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 2: just cannot get over how bad the product's been. 904 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: This season, Simon. I think I told you early in 905 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: the year. I don't watch Red Zone anymore. 906 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 3: I do jealous I do. I can't kick it yet 907 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 3: I'm still addicted. 908 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do four box on my TV and then 909 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: I'm on my laptop, and there's usually five games that 910 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: are of high leverage for us, between the games that 911 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: we have in the contest and then we've given out 912 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,879 Speaker 1: and games that we thought about doing that I want 913 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on and hope that they don't 914 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: cover when we decided not to put them in, and 915 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,280 Speaker 1: so I never have to worry about Red Zone anymore 916 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: in the afternoon games, like there's so few games you 917 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: can just to box it. Like today I had the 918 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: Bears in their rams and I haven't watched a single 919 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: minute of Red Zone this year. 920 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 2: I'm at the sportsbook, so I have to. Unfortunately, I 921 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 2: have to have the Red Zone in my ear, so 922 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 2: I basically we'll be watching it with plugged in so 923 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 2: I can hear it in my one ear and have 924 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 2: my other ear open to talk to people. But I 925 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 2: just needed to follow along because I just get lost, 926 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 2: like I get sometimes I forget I'm watching football because 927 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 2: you get you start talking about whatever betting lines with 928 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 2: people and you forget oh, touchdown, just got scored. I 929 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 2: need to track my bets, so I listen more than 930 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 2: I watch it, honestly, But the I just I can't 931 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 2: get over the ad stuff. Like it's someone that like 932 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 2: this whole paid surface stuff we've entered into. We always 933 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 2: know it's going to be it's more and more in 934 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 2: their corporate advantage. But my god, please Red Zone give 935 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 2: it's just one or two commercials a week. We're paying 936 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 2: a lot for your your product, and we only get 937 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 2: into eighteen weeks out of the year. 938 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 3: It's just it feels like it's too much. 939 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 1: It is amazing how quickly they went from no commercials 940 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: to oh, don't worry about it, it'll be limited to 941 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: apparently by your account. I haven't watched a second too. Wow, 942 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: it's truly disruptive. 943 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: I hate it. Like again, I don't want to go 944 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 2: too hard because I know we work for a company 945 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: that puts ads on our podcast. That's the whole part 946 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 2: of the business. But the commercialization of everything, it's just 947 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 2: like the MLB Jersey is having stuff on and everything. 948 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 2: It's literally I'm becoming that old man where I'm like 949 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 2: you just keep yelling change. 950 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 1: Just keep yelling at the commercials, just keep doing. 951 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 2: I do think the shame works that there is less 952 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 2: commercials in my opinion this week on Red Zone, because 953 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 2: we just as a collective group, like again, really do 954 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 2: I go on social stuff and go off on these companies. 955 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 2: I have legit not only set them an email, I 956 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 2: sent them a handwritten letter out said. I was, come on, yeah, 957 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 2: no joke. 958 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 3: I was like, dude, you guys, this is ridiculous. 959 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 2: And I know just because I worked in media handling writers, 960 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 2: written letters actually still work people because no one says 961 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 2: mail anymore. So that's a fun fact. 962 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: Who did you send it to? 963 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 2: I'd have to check the address, but they have Scott Hanson. No, 964 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 2: I told you I'm right down the street from NFL. 965 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. 966 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hand delivered. 967 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: You could just drop it off. 968 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 3: I'm a psychopath. 969 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: Then they're opening it, they're like what's inside? 970 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 3: Well, the first is like I pulled the way I 971 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 3: pulled up. 972 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 2: I was like this woman's nothing, definitely, and she did it. 973 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 3: She like walks up, are you lost? Or like are 974 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 3: you okay? I have a letter here for the NFL? 975 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god. The poor lady in Mount Laurel is 976 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: just trying to do her job and let people in 977 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: to go do NFL films, And here's some psychopath walking 978 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: up with I know. 979 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 2: The guy who runs shot there, so I just knew 980 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 2: if I put his name on there, it would get 981 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:48,760 Speaker 2: to him. 982 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 3: So I'm trying something here. 983 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: That is classic South Jersey right there, I'll go on 984 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: more traditional routes. Shame on you, Cleveland Browns rushing defense, 985 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 1: because if you're giving up two hundred and ninety total 986 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: yards in the game, and one hundred and eighty four 987 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: of those are on the ground, and Tony Pollard gets 988 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty one yards, including a sixty five 989 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: yard rushing touchdown, and you give it one hundred and 990 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: forty yards and fourteen points in the first quarter to 991 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, who are a rock bottom who've won 992 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: one freaking game, who this week like couldn't stop talking 993 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: the locker room about how miserable they were. You're supposed 994 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: to be an elite defense. You've got the greatest defensive 995 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: player of his generation who did get a sack today. 996 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: But come on, come on, Cleveland Browns, have some freaking pride. 997 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: Agree do you want to hear my hero of the week. 998 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, give it to me. 999 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: Tyler Shock. We talked about him. The boy was not pretty, 1000 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: thirteen of twenty four, one hundred and forty four yards, 1001 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: but but in the second half he was six of nine. 1002 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: He ran the ball, as you noted, seventy seven times 1003 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: fifty five yards, two touchdowns, his first two rushing touchdowns 1004 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 1: of his career, multiple third down conversions of those six 1005 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,760 Speaker 1: completions to keep drives alive, and he gave the Saints 1006 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,959 Speaker 1: the upset money line win. Forgot what they were, something 1007 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: like plus three sixty whatever it was. I'm glad go Saints. 1008 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: Nice job, Tyler Shuck. You deserve your epsom salt bath tonight, 1009 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:36,280 Speaker 1: old man. 1010 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,439 Speaker 2: I came, I'm about to give it to this guy, 1011 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 2: but I got to give him props here over the week. Shocking, 1012 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 2: most shocking game in my opinion. JJ McCarthy is my 1013 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 2: hero of the week. 1014 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: Chad, we were going to get to that, and Simon says, 1015 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: we were going to talk about Washington, so give it up. 1016 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 2: I just tons of respect to the kid, Like you know, 1017 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 2: you can't avoid all the stuff. He is one of 1018 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 2: the most memes quarterbacks. I can remember in such an 1019 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 2: early career and it's I don't know if you've seen 1020 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 2: the meme. Basically he made this weird face when he 1021 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 2: talked about how he is an alter ego. 1022 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: Nine yeah, nine. I thought that was so fucking instilling. 1023 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 2: And like there was a clip of him like like 1024 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 2: I don't even know it's like a stank face or 1025 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 2: whatever it is, but basically anyone that stinks, like like 1026 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,399 Speaker 2: Hurts had laid an egg whatever that was last game, 1027 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 2: they basically impost Hurts his face over the sky's body. 1028 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 2: He's become that type of meme where he's just getting 1029 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 2: absolutely killed. And it came out today and played within 1030 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 2: the system which we've talked about now where he's had 1031 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 2: good games like that Detroit game, the game they won. 1032 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 2: He's had different games where when it's on script, I 1033 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 2: get what I get what koccs like, he's good with 1034 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 2: his feet, he has a good arm, and you know 1035 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 2: today you know didn't have a ton of yards one 1036 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty three, he threw three touchdowns, Like he 1037 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,439 Speaker 2: was really impressive in the red zone using his tight 1038 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 2: ends and really playing one in the offense, like having 1039 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 2: the game and the read where he had a couple 1040 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 2: of pressure in his face and panic back foot right 1041 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 2: to the guy in the end zone. And you know, 1042 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 2: just got to get props to the kid where I 1043 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 2: talked to him. They have to play him the rest 1044 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 2: of the year because you have to keep building on 1045 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 2: whatever this is. And yeah, go get a veteran in 1046 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 2: the summer, so we know this isn't who he is, right, 1047 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 2: He's not a sixteen of twenty three and three touchdowns 1048 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: type of guy, but there is something there that they 1049 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 2: could build upon where everything felt lost a week ago, 1050 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 2: and I think there were some crazy out there, like 1051 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 2: their first team since you know, last thirty years to 1052 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,879 Speaker 2: basically get shut out the week before and then shut 1053 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 2: another team out this upcoming week, So you know, pretty incredible. 1054 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 2: They got embarrassed on the road, they come home, he 1055 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 2: comes off, you know, being a concussion list and really 1056 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: puts up a great game. So yeah, big win for 1057 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 2: the Vikings thirty one. Nothing in the sense that a 1058 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,280 Speaker 2: little bit of peace of mind heading into the offseason 1059 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 2: if he continues to play this way, JJ McCarthy. At 1060 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 2: least at least you have something to hope on rather 1061 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 2: than him just being an embarrassment. 1062 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 3: So He's my hero of the week. 1063 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: I'm impressed. I'm impressed that you called that out. I 1064 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 1: was wondering how we were going to address Minnesota winning 1065 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: thirty one to nothing over Washington. Washington was the Simon says, 1066 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: not a great week. Not a great week. Chatch choice 1067 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: was New York Jets plus two and a half, Brass 1068 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: Balls was the Ravens minus five and a half. Rock 1069 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: and a hard place. We did go with New Orleans, 1070 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: and so good on us for finding the diamond in 1071 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: the rough this week, sharp versus square. I had the Jags, 1072 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: you had the Saints. A rare push for US underdog 1073 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: parlay the Jags, the Jets, and Washington. I could not 1074 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: remember or find in my notes who our moneyline parlay was. 1075 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: I feel like it was the Rams minus five and 1076 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,240 Speaker 1: a half. I think it was Seattlens. 1077 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 2: We hit on everything except we either we might either 1078 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 2: had Cleveland in there or the Ravens. 1079 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: Which, oh right, it was Seattle minus five and a half, 1080 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: Rams minus five and a half, Baltimore, Denver, Oh no, 1081 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 1: case and Denver. That's what it was. 1082 00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 2: Nice. 1083 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: So we got a shot. We got a shot with Casey. 1084 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,280 Speaker 1: Even though I like the Texans to at least cover 1085 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 1: that game. Some exciting games next week to look at, 1086 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: obviously the Lions and the Rams is one of them. 1087 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: Buffalo is playing New England. Interesting game. I feel like, well, 1088 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: you want to start you got any leans here because 1089 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: I got some early. 1090 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 2: Opinions, think fire away. 1091 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk about that Buffalo game. Like 1092 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: the Bills are one and a half point favorites right now, 1093 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,800 Speaker 1: which I don't love because I kind of want to 1094 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: bet the Patriots. 1095 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be patents here. The market does with that. 1096 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 2: My initial gut instinct is just the hammer of the Bills. 1097 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 2: That's like I keep saying that the Patriots are a 1098 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 2: good team, but they're just totally overrated, overinflated, and you know, 1099 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 2: it's a scary team to get in front of because 1100 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,760 Speaker 2: they are a legit contender. But Josh Allen in December 1101 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 2: under a field goal against an inexperienced team in New England, 1102 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 2: So to me, it's this should be a Josh Allen spot. 1103 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 2: But I'm with you, I'm a little scared to bet 1104 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 2: against his Patriots team shockingly, So I'll be patients here 1105 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 2: that number goes. 1106 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: What do you think of Tampa Bay as a five 1107 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: and a half point favorite at home against Atlanta. 1108 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 2: Right now, I love it, but I don't get why 1109 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 2: the number is so short, Like it's the proses keep 1110 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 2: betting this Atlanta team they get backing Kirk Cousins. It's 1111 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 2: very bizarre. So I thought this would be seven, seven 1112 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 2: and a half. Like, it's just Falcons with Schuck are 1113 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,720 Speaker 2: no worse than this Atlanta team with Kirk Cousins. 1114 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,839 Speaker 3: So and no Drake London once again. So I don't know. 1115 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 2: It's I'll hit this number early, but if Drake Lennon 1116 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 2: gets cleared, maybe this drops down more and I'll take 1117 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 2: a large position. But this is like one of the 1118 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 2: first lines I hit when it opened. I just anything 1119 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 2: on seven. I'm gonna hammer against this Atlantic team. They're 1120 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 2: just so bad. 1121 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think without Drake London they really can't function. 1122 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,800 Speaker 1: We saw it today. It's why we were talking about 1123 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: do we want to take Atlanta seven and a half? 1124 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: You were on Seattle. I liked Atlanta, but only if 1125 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,439 Speaker 1: they had Drake London. So that's why it was sort 1126 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: of a pass for us. The wise guys phenomenally, We're 1127 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 1: all over Atlanta this week. They loved them this week. 1128 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 1: All right, so you hit the Bucks. 1129 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 1130 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 2: I just take a little position on them. 1131 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 1: Uh Washington on the road at the New York Giants. 1132 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: They're underdogs right now. It can't be worse than what 1133 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 1: it was today. It just can't. 1134 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,879 Speaker 2: That's fair. I mean, once again, it feels like that's 1135 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 2: a Giants line. So I'll probably think it was on 1136 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 2: the Giants because it's just there's no way they let 1137 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 2: gian Danis play again. I think he reinjured, so it's 1138 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 2: gonna be Mariota for sure, which might be better for 1139 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 2: them because Denos look that great anyway. But yeah, it's 1140 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 2: interesting with you that game. I just if I could 1141 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 2: avoid that game, I'd probably be happy. Right now, I 1142 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 2: asked a strong. 1143 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: Opinion on it, yet, what do you have opinions on? 1144 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 2: So just again, like you just said, really really early 1145 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 2: lines here, and actually I'm seeing Bucks now moving to 1146 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 2: minus four and a half, so pretty pretty interesting. The 1147 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 2: professionals love that Falcons team. It might be an overreaction chat, 1148 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 2: but we can get the Rams minus four and a 1149 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 2: half against Detroit. I just I, once again, I feel 1150 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 2: like Detroit. I know it's it's it's golf indoors as 1151 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 2: a dog. He's covered this number of tumb but I 1152 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 2: just feel like these are totally totally different teams where 1153 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 2: there's just the Rams are a class above. And I'm 1154 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 2: interesting what the public does with this one because I 1155 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 2: think most peop are gonna see those golf stats about 1156 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 2: him as a dog and him covering as a dog 1157 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 2: indoors in this position. So another number. I'll be patient 1158 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 2: because I think I might move to a better spot 1159 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 2: for me. But yeah, that's that game and the Saints. 1160 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 2: Like the Saints were plus three, a couple of books 1161 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 2: are down a plus two. 1162 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 1: And a half, two and a half. 1163 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 2: That's another one we patren on. I just think the 1164 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 2: public will come in on that Panther side and maybe 1165 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,439 Speaker 2: I'll get a better number on the Saints. And yeah, 1166 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 2: another game that just jumped out to me right away. 1167 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 2: I can't believe it, but Minnesota's plus six on the 1168 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 2: road against Dallas. 1169 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask you about that one. 1170 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 2: I hate it, but I think I'm supposed to, so 1171 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 2: I'll just I'll take the six in case the professionals 1172 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 2: bet it down to five and a half. But talked 1173 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 2: about I just that that Dallas defense is so suspect. 1174 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 2: I know they'll they'll get there is offensively, but I 1175 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 2: could see a Koc scheming up and then getting them 1176 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 2: points for this Viking side as well. So I just 1177 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 2: I feel like that them is a little too big 1178 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 2: for the open. 1179 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna mention New Orleans that felt sneaky to me. 1180 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: It felt a little bit trappy. 1181 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 2: Uh, already got hit off the three I know, Uh, the. 1182 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 1: Other one that fell trapping to me before we get 1183 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: out of here. There was another two and a half 1184 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: that I was looking at, hold on. It was right 1185 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: below that one. Oh, green Bay and Denver. Green Bay 1186 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 1: is a two and a half point favorite on the 1187 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: road against the Broncos. 1188 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 2: Early line I would grab. I guess Denver, I suppose, 1189 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 2: but I'm probably gonna end up on green Bay. They're 1190 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 2: just they're just the better team, like we already talked about. 1191 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 2: I just there's something missing with them. But they have 1192 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 2: so much talent across to the board. I love. This 1193 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 2: matchup is a great test. So it's it's already down 1194 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 2: to one and a half at a couple of books 1195 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 2: now green Bay. So if that flips and Lafleur becomes 1196 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 2: a dog, remember that got ticket yeah, exactly. So let's 1197 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 2: be just be patient to take that position here. But yeah, 1198 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 2: if you want to grab the two and a half early, 1199 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 2: I think Denver is definitely the sharp side. 1200 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: Uh. Just breaking news from Chefter on ESPN Daniel Jones 1201 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: undergoing surgery for a torn achilles so his season is done. 1202 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: That is a bummer for the Colts who gave us 1203 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 1: a good run this year. Not that the season's over 1204 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: for them, but that was a bummer, you know, you know, 1205 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin it for everybody. All Right, 1206 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: this has been Let's let's remind everybody what we had. 1207 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 1: We had the Rams minus nine and a half today 1208 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: that cash. We have the Jacks plus two and a 1209 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 1: half that cashed. We had the Nordland Saints plus eight 1210 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 1: and a half that cashed. We lost with the Cleveland 1211 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Browns minus three and a half in the New York 1212 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,919 Speaker 1: Jets plus two and a half, three and two, three 1213 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 1: and two. 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Till next time. 1223 01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 2: I Love you. Together, we can do it. Nobody can 1224 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 2: do it alone. With together, we can do it. Let's 1225 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 2: play our kind of football and we'll come out of 1226 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 2: um with a win. 1227 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Let's go